Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/12/2010 12:58 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: (The proposed usage is prohibited by the license that is displayed on flickr Huh, I read it just the opposite - non-commercial use with attribution sounds like like that is what this is. If it was CC-BY, or CC-BY-SA you'd be OK. The issue is that it is a CC-BY-NC license, and the proposed usage meets the criteria of commercial endeavour. [I've come across several business that prohibit their employees from attending any conferences in the state of California, regardless of the connection of the conference to the company, because that attendance can trip the commercial endeavour criteria used by the California franchise tax board.] Anyway, an email to the person would be standard practice for me, But then I'm terrible at this license stuff. Since your standard is to contact the license holder, prior to distribution, to verify that the proposed usage is acceptable to them, then you are doing the required due diligence. Which means that even if you don't grok the license, you won't run afoul of the license. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM3venAAoJEOpnmQXT8Ln/nTcH/1hTbOUv2dox702c9nX1EWHF iZ8M9gDxbUBLRbJKqwDtM6ahOIRF61t+uW/ITtnFXBSYgXzG/GdXidGBT7GH8iX0 fcbzcP+KUWITS1hgZY5qjEzYoSwEKnZ367HeDe7DKEx0SI9mto2/AbuVWa0CRWw8 wJFYbEBKWL5U5a/smpLi19YyC/jUX94/q32/jQGr64b2ISl41wcDWlnZNE3CQIZ2 Hy9c9F0+4DHiNvWw3MY13ZidwZO8Ntw3XT3va3+e5mDPmGdP3XzK4guH4WiZuvU9 Lbt2QHXbCFjG0IM5ZCFPo84kWRc386IeHiZRym7hTVvZyl8tJKwUxfL9fQ+q6C8= =9iNv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/12/2010 04:07 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: The background image is from http://www.flickr.com/photos/nevercoolinschool/2785475907/sizes/l/in/photostream/ You'll have to contact the photographer about licensing rights. (The proposed usage is prohibited by the license that is displayed on flickr.) jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM3TirAAoJEOpnmQXT8Ln/B8cIAJxVTAL/u7sxcCKUjtxupBpt LdNo354PZqsnvqog4Ma7sAsVUmm5aoPP5X8BN2oPqnOKCkGawcSBLaw9RRCQsNCU pbDdZv6LJ2TSyjAFrKdwQzm5kSLxwKRvfIzVYByUG67M9UMhSpc65Vhm/+cEALMQ ydG/hZvfyfsa2tMUSRRtj1qHzpGcLwyQzcHpi0VUZyfT3sAu6umg+rr8s34n+JD1 6Aa+4eLFYOt4PLckB8R6he2xtP7hBaF+LnQKFP9iGTIbq0Xf57qdKIswn04IEF0X pBy3B2fboTcGqhTvwnT3vCgFURuLoQsLi52bIXubE+uXtmEkhJjdGUlL0vLt428= =pAob -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 12:53 +, jonathon wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nevercoolinschool/2785475907/sizes/l/in/photostream/ You'll have to contact the photographer about licensing rights. (The proposed usage is prohibited by the license that is displayed on flickr Huh, I read it just the opposite - non-commercial use with attribution sounds like like that is what this is. Anyway, an email to the person would be standard practice for me, prior to actually pushing it out to the wider world. But then I'm terrible at this license stuff. Thanks drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: LibreOffice, a suite deal. Memories brought to you by LibreOffice Take note, with LibreOffice. Penmanship begins with LibreOffice. There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues. LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust. LibreOffice ... we are all free to live. LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered. We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
FW: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
I like this one. LibreOffice ... we are all free to live. Or maybe even better in English: LibreOffice ... Free to Live! Or in Spanish: LibreOffice ... Libertad para Vivir! From: Marc Paré [m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:36 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: LibreOffice, a suite deal. Memories brought to you by LibreOffice Take note, with LibreOffice. Penmanship begins with LibreOffice. There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues. LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust. LibreOffice ... we are all free to live. LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered. We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
One second though, Maybe better for the English version LibreOffice ... Freedom to Live! From: Marc Paré [m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:36 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: LibreOffice, a suite deal. Memories brought to you by LibreOffice Take note, with LibreOffice. Penmanship begins with LibreOffice. There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues. LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust. LibreOffice ... we are all free to live. LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered. We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
One slogan, loosely translated into languages, would seem best to me. In other words, not a literal translation, but same idea translated. _ From: Brenden Seibel [bsei...@guateconexion.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:49 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan One second though, Maybe better for the English version LibreOffice ... Freedom to Live! From: Marc Paré [m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:36 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: LibreOffice, a suite deal. Memories brought to you by LibreOffice Take note, with LibreOffice. Penmanship begins with LibreOffice. There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues. LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust. LibreOffice ... we are all free to live. LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered. We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Hi Drew, 2010/11/11 Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 16:41 +, Brenden Seibel wrote: One slogan, loosely translated into languages, would seem best to me. In other words, not a literal translation, but same idea translated. Would seem to make sense - I was doodling with ideas over this last weekend also and Liberate Your Life came to mind. I used it in a first draft for a poster http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/miss-liberty-backgrounds Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding Thx Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Le 2010-11-11 10:36, Marc Paré a écrit : There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Here are a few of my suggestions: LibreOffice, a suite deal. Memories brought to you by LibreOffice Take note, with LibreOffice. Penmanship begins with LibreOffice. There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues. LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust. LibreOffice ... we are all free to live. LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered. We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed Marc Some nice ideas. I think the main slogan should remind people that LibreOffice is a series of programs that help one to write, draw, calculate... Maybe I am paranoid, but I think we should avoid: names that remind one of competitive software. So I would not recommend: – Take note... because of OneNote and Lotus Notes – We conquered space... too far away I like: – LibreOffice, a suite deal – With LibreOffice, you really are in control of your documents (i.e. reference to open file formats) – LibreOffice: your documents, you're in control! In French, these would work, depending on how much text we want: – LibreOffice, une suite qui a de la classe – Avec LibreOffice, vous avez plein contrôle, jusqu'au bout ! – LibreOffice vous permet d'être maître de vos documents ! -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Hi Marc, all, this topic is one I like very much :-) A few years back we had a similar activity in the OOo marketing project with lots of proposals, a voting and finally one official slogan (positioner) for OpenOffice.org. (Open. For Business) (Search the OOo marketing list archive for positioner) Marc Paré schrieb: There was some bantering back and forth a while ago with different words. Should we develop a slogan for LibO? Definitively yes! Should we develop a different slogan for each language or have a translation of one slogan for languages? Most of the slogans don't translate easily. But we should try to find a common central conclusion. Here are a few of my suggestions: LibreOffice, a suite deal. Memories brought to you by LibreOffice Take note, with LibreOffice. Penmanship begins with LibreOffice. There was the calamus, the ballpoint pen. LibreOffice, the evolution continues. LibreOffice, your creation, your company, your trust. LibreOffice ... we are all free to live. LibreOffice, we dared and we conquered. We conquered space, we created LibreOffice. Dare to imagine and you will succeed Marc Would you mind to position them on a new wiki page? As the list will probably become longer, it might be problematical to work on them here at the list. Best regards Bernhard -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Drew Jensen schrieb: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it is closer? ... wrong font (Didn't you mention you used the SVG source of the logo?) ... wrong aspect ratio (probably related to the point above) ... bold Office part ... dark background Please have a look at the Guidelines and Best Practices areas on the wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_2 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_3 As these rules are not carved in stone, they might be adjusted if reasonable / necessary. Best regards Bernhard -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 01:16 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Drew Jensen schrieb: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it is closer? ... wrong font (Didn't you mention you used the SVG source of the logo?) Yup that is it, it is directly from the logo. ... wrong aspect ratio (probably related to the point above) This is the problem - I didn't take the time to qualify the ratio, just pulled it out for a basic layout pass. ... bold Office part hmm - yes noticed that, I think the svg file is out of date on that..isn't it? I figured the one I was using form the wiki currently was, so didn't really sweat it yet. ... dark background Yes - it is, but surely we aren't going to pass on all dark backgrounds- I can use the white out logo but it really doesn't come across as well, IMO in a big way - still I can put one together and put it up to compare against. I also have a second background that might work for the event, it has a better local tie, but the Statue of Liberty (even the iconic tourist novelty rendition) is a very powerful image for the USA. Also, I faux lightened the background with a transparency overlay - but that is a terrible solution I think, so for a next pass would play a bit with lightning the background image a bit and lose the added layer. Please have a look at the Guidelines and Best Practices areas on the wiki page: I have, and will again. I sure appreciate everyones feed back or if anyone has some great tip to give given the subject (dark background) matter I'm really open to hearing it. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_2 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_3 As these rules are not carved in stone, they might be adjusted if reasonable / necessary. later then, Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Res: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
Hello, I think the picture with a lot of fantasy. In this link we have very interesting pictures of the Statue of Liberty that can be used freely (please see details for each image you will use). Link: http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=searchw=1txt=Statue+of+Libertyp=1 Até mais, Lucas Filho Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços http://www.open-ce.com.br ::@strogildo - Educação a distância http://astrogildo.blogspot.com Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com Para: marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 11 de Novembro de 2010 21:39:26 Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 01:16 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Drew Jensen schrieb: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:53 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: Somewhat nice idea, but may I remind you to obey the branding rules: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding sure - that is part of why I placed it up here - do you think it fails? How could I make it pass - or you just want to see draft 2 and see if it is closer? ... wrong font (Didn't you mention you used the SVG source of the logo?) Yup that is it, it is directly from the logo. ... wrong aspect ratio (probably related to the point above) This is the problem - I didn't take the time to qualify the ratio, just pulled it out for a basic layout pass. ... bold Office part hmm - yes noticed that, I think the svg file is out of date on that..isn't it? I figured the one I was using form the wiki currently was, so didn't really sweat it yet. ... dark background Yes - it is, but surely we aren't going to pass on all dark backgrounds- I can use the white out logo but it really doesn't come across as well, IMO in a big way - still I can put one together and put it up to compare against. I also have a second background that might work for the event, it has a better local tie, but the Statue of Liberty (even the iconic tourist novelty rendition) is a very powerful image for the USA. Also, I faux lightened the background with a transparency overlay - but that is a terrible solution I think, so for a next pass would play a bit with lightning the background image a bit and lose the added layer. Please have a look at the Guidelines and Best Practices areas on the wiki page: I have, and will again. I sure appreciate everyones feed back or if anyone has some great tip to give given the subject (dark background) matter I'm really open to hearing it. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_2 2 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices_3 3 As these rules are not carved in stone, they might be adjusted if reasonable / necessary. later then, Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 19:06 -0800, Lucas Filho wrote: In this link we have very interesting pictures of the Statue of Liberty that can be used freely (please see details for each image you will use). Link: http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=searchw=1txt=Statue+of +Libertyp=1 Thanks Lucas, I will look those over. Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Slogan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:26 -0500, Drew Jensen wrote: Then again if I put the whole logo in place http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Miss-liberty-2.png that's not bad. and here is the alternative background I was thinking of. http://oucv.org/libreoffice/scale-9x-griffith-poster-2.png (That is a shot of Los Angeles from the Griffith Observatory) The background image is from http://www.flickr.com/photos/nevercoolinschool/2785475907/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Thanks Drew -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
