Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding

2011-02-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

From what other people have said i think that allowing some regional variation 
would be a good plan.  


3.  Slight variations give an impression of a community-led, creative and 
dynamic organisation rather than excessively global corporate.  


2.  Faster to create good displays more cheaply.  

1.  Postage costs and time taken for deliveries could make a marketing box for 
posters and paper-work fairly impractical - especially when considering posting 
from one continent to another!  However, i think there are some items that 
would 
be great to be able to share around to give LibreOffice an unexpected boost 
even 
at some fairly small events.  


Just my 2cents worth
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 12 February, 2011 11:25:21
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts 
about branding

** Disclaimer - I am a fan of the LibreOffice green **

Resources tagged (TBA)
I updated the Conference Kit wiki page[1] with items/examples. I tagged 
resources where there is no English version done as of yet as (TBA). We can 
remove these tags as we complete these resources.

Colour Branding
We should really talk whether we should have a unified look for marketing 
resources or do we leave it up to regional decisions. That is, do all of our 
banners, posters, flyers, stickers etc. look the same worldwide? As an example, 
if you examine the German team's resources for the upcoming CeBit2011, you'll 
see that they are using the green background on ALL of their resources. 
However, 
the US team, we are using a white background on our LibreOffice pamphlet. Have 
a 
look at the German team's designs (examples on the Conference Kit wiki page).

Do we also want to cultivate a brand based on colour and stick to this brand? 
Personally, I believe that the LibreOffice green would make it undeniably 
recognizable everywhere we go. You would have a hard time not being able to 
find 
the LibreOffice green poster in a conference hall. If we are dealing with the 
various LibO applications then we would use their particular colours of course.

Another factor is cost. Does using green paper stock at the printer add to the 
cost? What do we do about poorly funded marketing teams to minimize costs?

LibreOffice Marketing Box
I bring up again the idea of a LibreOffice Marketing Box where this box could 
be shipped from one destination to another in a particular region. The box 
could 
contain necessary marketing resources to setup a normal conference booth/table 
area. This to minimize initial costs where funding is low. We could then send 
out teams more easily to conferences knowing that the LibreOffice brand 
resources are used.

Cheers

Marc

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConferenceKit


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding

2011-02-13 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Marc,

thank you so much for driving this activity forward ... thus, just a few
thoughts since I also helped to shape some of the current content.

Am Samstag, den 12.02.2011, 06:25 -0500 schrieb Marc Paré:
 ** Disclaimer - I am a fan of the LibreOffice green **

Me too :-)

[...]
 Colour Branding
 We should really talk whether we should have a unified look for 
 marketing resources or do we leave it up to regional decisions. That is, 
 do all of our banners, posters, flyers, stickers etc. look the same 
 worldwide?

My decision would be based on the perception of the end-users ... on a
trade fair, the marketing material might just be an entry point to get
further information on the website, maybe downloading LibreOffice.

Consequently, we may improve the perception of our visual design
language by basing most of the marketing material on how LibreOffice and
the website looks in general. Currently, the look is rather conservative
and non-obtrusive to have a somehow fits all approach when offering
the software. But, this might not fit to the wishes of all of the
communities (thinking more of cultural diversity than personal taste) -
so the content might be adjusted as needed.

Here is some (maybe extreme) example of how our presentation at the
OOoCon 2008 looked like (in China):
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/programme/friday_1397.pdf

And a very unofficial note ;-) In the end, it is important that the team
feels comfortable with the content that has been created ... since they
do the hard work of bringing LibreOffice to the people.

[...]

 Do we also want to cultivate a brand based on colour and stick to this 
 brand? Personally, I believe that the LibreOffice green would make it 
 undeniably recognizable everywhere we go. You would have a hard time not 
 being able to find the LibreOffice green poster in a conference hall. 
 If we are dealing with the various LibO applications then we would use 
 their particular colours of course.

Total agreement - and I think there will be further improvements
concerning the website, so we get more and more good examples how
things might look like.

Oh, maybe already helpful - when I worked on the Branding wiki pages, I
already tried to include some early examples in dedicated sections
Usage Examples:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding

As I said, only some thoughts ...

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding

2011-02-13 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I find that the idea of Green is a buzz word of this generation.
If we use a green color in the branding of the visuals of the
marketing and maybe in the software splash screen, it might
be remembered more often.

The costs of green paper is cheaper than using a lot of green
toner or ink for a printer.

I wonder if there could be a few places looked into by the
major players in the marketing teams to the local costs of
the larger items, like banners.  I bet it would cost a lot less
in the larger cities, than it does in a smaller one, like where I live.
It could be less with the postage from a city like New York City
or LA, shipped to my area of New York State [USA] than it would
cost me to have one made up at our best priced shop.  It could
be the same in the bigger cities of each country and shipped to
the smaller areas for local events of those regions of their
countries.  I know I would not want something to be shipped
from Europe to the USA, but within Germany, or France, or England?

On 02/13/2011 04:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

 From what other people have said i think that allowing some regional variation
would be a good plan.


3.  Slight variations give an impression of a community-led, creative and
dynamic organisation rather than excessively global corporate.


2.  Faster to create good displays more cheaply.

1.  Postage costs and time taken for deliveries could make a marketing box for
posters and paper-work fairly impractical - especially when considering posting
from one continent to another!  However, i think there are some items that would
be great to be able to share around to give LibreOffice an unexpected boost even
at some fairly small events.


Just my 2cents worth
Regards from
Tom :)


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[libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding

2011-02-12 Thread Marc Paré

** Disclaimer - I am a fan of the LibreOffice green **

Resources tagged (TBA)
I updated the Conference Kit wiki page[1] with items/examples. I tagged 
resources where there is no English version done as of yet as (TBA). We 
can remove these tags as we complete these resources.


Colour Branding
We should really talk whether we should have a unified look for 
marketing resources or do we leave it up to regional decisions. That is, 
do all of our banners, posters, flyers, stickers etc. look the same 
worldwide? As an example, if you examine the German team's resources for 
the upcoming CeBit2011, you'll see that they are using the green 
background on ALL of their resources. However, the US team, we are using 
a white background on our LibreOffice pamphlet. Have a look at the 
German team's designs (examples on the Conference Kit wiki page).


Do we also want to cultivate a brand based on colour and stick to this 
brand? Personally, I believe that the LibreOffice green would make it 
undeniably recognizable everywhere we go. You would have a hard time not 
being able to find the LibreOffice green poster in a conference hall. 
If we are dealing with the various LibO applications then we would use 
their particular colours of course.


Another factor is cost. Does using green paper stock at the printer add 
to the cost? What do we do about poorly funded marketing teams to 
minimize costs?


LibreOffice Marketing Box
I bring up again the idea of a LibreOffice Marketing Box where this 
box could be shipped from one destination to another in a particular 
region. The box could contain necessary marketing resources to setup a 
normal conference booth/table area. This to minimize initial costs where 
funding is low. We could then send out teams more easily to conferences 
knowing that the LibreOffice brand resources are used.


Cheers

Marc

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConferenceKit


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding

2011-02-12 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 06:25 -0500, Marc Paré wrote:

 
 LibreOffice Marketing Box
 I bring up again the idea of a LibreOffice Marketing Box where this 
 box could be shipped from one destination to another in a particular 
 region. The box could contain necessary marketing resources to setup a 
 normal conference booth/table area. This to minimize initial costs where 
 funding is low. We could then send out teams more easily to conferences 
 knowing that the LibreOffice brand resources are used.


Hi Marc

Updated this page

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConferenceKit

with a Contempoary Logo banner, PDF suitable for printing with
inexpensive on-line services, file is formatted 6' x 30 and 75dpi.

The source file is available on the wiki also, just change the file
descriptor fro pdf - svg, for anyone needing to output different dpi or
size adjustment.

Thanks

Drew





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding

2011-02-12 Thread Luiz Oliveira
Hi,

I think this fantastic idea. Here in Brazil, had the experience of
making DVDs containing BrOffice and other tools such as dictionaries,
documentation and extensions in the National Meeting BrOffice. Today I
received a call from a manager asking me if BrOffice had something like
that, since he won a bid at PCs should come with BrOffice and Linux and
its installation DVDs.
I wonder what we can do, here in Brazil, to implement this action and
thereby helping to TDF.

Best,

Luiz Oliveira
BrOffice Community

 On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 06:25 -0500, Marc Paré wrote:

   
 LibreOffice Marketing Box
 I bring up again the idea of a LibreOffice Marketing Box where this 
 box could be shipped from one destination to another in a particular 
 region. The box could contain necessary marketing resources to setup a 
 normal conference booth/table area. This to minimize initial costs where 
 funding is low. We could then send out teams more easily to conferences 
 knowing that the LibreOffice brand resources are used.
 

 Hi Marc

 Updated this page

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConferenceKit

 with a Contempoary Logo banner, PDF suitable for printing with
 inexpensive on-line services, file is formatted 6' x 30 and 75dpi.

 The source file is available on the wiki also, just change the file
 descriptor fro pdf - svg, for anyone needing to output different dpi or
 size adjustment.

 Thanks

 Drew





   


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding

2011-02-12 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Marc, all,

Marc Paré schrieb:

** Disclaimer - I am a fan of the LibreOffice green **

[...]

Colour Branding
We should really talk whether we should have a unified look for
marketing resources or do we leave it up to regional decisions.


I'd like to see a common branding language throughout the different 
teams. This would not only improve the feeling of belonging together, 
but help our audience to get the impression of a integrative community.



That is,
do all of our banners, posters, flyers, stickers etc. look the same
worldwide? As an example, if you examine the German team's resources for
the upcoming CeBit2011, you'll see that they are using the green
background on ALL of their resources. However, the US team, we are using
a white background on our LibreOffice pamphlet. Have a look at the
German team's designs (examples on the Conference Kit wiki page).


Thank you very much for this page - it makes it much easier to see what 
we have already and what we need in future.


Even if I like the LibO Green too, the German design is too green in my 
eyes - our branding is lighter, a combination of green and grey.


Therefore I prefer the US design.


Do we also want to cultivate a brand based on colour and stick to this
brand?


I don't think that color should be the only basis of our brand - even if 
color is one of the most important areas.


Our brand should be based on the logo, our icons, the colors, the form 
(right upper corner, triangles ...), shading (inner shading) and so on.


We will come up with some officially approved resources, based on the 
Initial Branding by the Design Team.


As this branding had to be done by reduced community involvement due to 
the time restrictions when TDF/LibreOffice was set up, if will undergo 
an overhaul during the next months (proposed timeframe: until LibO 3.5).


I don't know about the differences between the future Community 
Branding and the present Initial Branding - just be aware, that there 
might be something new...



Personally, I believe that the LibreOffice green would make it
undeniably recognizable everywhere we go. You would have a hard time not
being able to find the LibreOffice green poster in a conference hall.
If we are dealing with the various LibO applications then we would use
their particular colours of course.


Referring to the different sub-application colors is much better with a 
lighter and neutral background - the green background might be 
problematic here.


Another factor is cost. Does using green paper stock at the printer add
to the cost? What do we do about poorly funded marketing teams to
minimize costs?


Green paper is nearly impossible, if we want to stay consistent with our 
branding colors. You will never get a paper in our green tone.
And if you want to have any other color on it, you will have to add a 
white background to every lighter color.


Looking at the German marketing material: This has probably been printed 
by a professional print studio allowing to print colors to the edges of 
the paper and cutting it afterwards. It looks very professional, but 
might be costly too.


I don't know if this is a solution for all our local marketing teams.

We already discussed an idea of creating a vertical banner by linking 
standard format sheets of paper (A4 / Letter) with metal rings to each 
other. We need to be creative to reduce cost...


LibreOffice Marketing Box
I bring up again the idea of a LibreOffice Marketing Box where this
box could be shipped from one destination to another in a particular
region. The box could contain necessary marketing resources to setup a
normal conference booth/table area. This to minimize initial costs where
funding is low. We could then send out teams more easily to conferences
knowing that the LibreOffice brand resources are used.


Shipping might be costly too (or take too much time), but we might have 
such boxes for several regions of the world, allowing people to share 
their marketing material with other teams in their broader local area.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Printing on a budget (was: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated Conference Kit wiki page and thoughts about branding )

2011-02-12 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 02:19 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
  Another factor is cost. Does using green paper stock at the printer
 add
  to the cost? What do we do about poorly funded marketing teams to
  minimize costs?
 
 Green paper is nearly impossible, if we want to stay consistent with
 our 
 branding colors. You will never get a paper in our green tone.
 And if you want to have any other color on it, you will have to add a 
 white background to every lighter color. 

Hi

Just wanted to jump in on this specific point of, using a colored paper.
I would come at it from a slightly different perspective, one that says
this is a very good way to get a common message across in a highly
disbursed environment. In the case of a community that does already span
the globe I would say we count in that definition :)

What I would add to the idea is that this means offering a good set of
basic marketing materials, in black or Grey Scale. In the case of very
small events, which I propose is the major of the events, where often or
most likely, it is a single person handling all the materials and costs,
then saving them every 'penny' is a serious and reasonable concern.

If you then ask, where possible, use a green paper stock. Give guidance
on a selection, but everyone can see the color of the Logo, and people
will usually try to pick the best choice available to them. OK - so
someone in Japan one weekend and another in Denmark the next use
somewhat different Green. I think it still serves the basic branding.

The cost savings is significant. It is also worth the effort from a
presentation POV to actually produce B/W or Grey scale source files,
rather then having the printer driver convert to Grey scale, IMO.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks

Drew


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