Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New video: LibreOffice general promo

[Franco]

Hi Mike.

Really very nice video!
Probably the old one was too long.

While watching it, YouTube suggested me this video, which I found very 
interesting:
What Microsoft doesn’t want you to know about Microsoft Office - YouTube 

There is a long part of the video regarding LibreOffice and how to 
install it. There is also a part on how free productivity/office suites 
are perceived and the 3 biggest misconception:

- they run just on Linux,
- free means crap or full of ads,
- compatibility issues.

In my personal opinion  I think it is worth adding some frames to the 
new video regarding the privacy, the continuos support and improvement 
LibreOffice can offer (no ads or crap).


Bye

Franco


Il 13/05/2024 15:38, Mike Saunders ha scritto:

Hi everyone,

Since 2016, this has been our general "This is LibreOffice" 
promotional video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KC0ZdcA6s8

It's quite old now, so I think we should create a newer (and shorter) 
one. This is my idea so far -- unlisted, so please don't share beyond 
this group!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R5x5uzRUAA

All feedback welcome. Of course, if anyone with video editing skills 
wants to help out with improvements, that would be even better :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New video: LibreOffice general promo

[Marc Paré]

Le 2024-05-13 à 09 h 38, Mike Saunders a écrit :

Hi everyone,

Since 2016, this has been our general "This is LibreOffice" 
promotional video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KC0ZdcA6s8

It's quite old now, so I think we should create a newer (and shorter) 
one. This is my idea so far -- unlisted, so please don't share beyond 
this group!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R5x5uzRUAA

All feedback welcome. Of course, if anyone with video editing skills 
wants to help out with improvements, that would be even better :-)



+1 and nicely done.

Would be nice to somehow mention the user base of millions who use 
LibreOffice at the end of the video.


Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New video: LibreOffice general promo

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> Hi everyone,
>
> Since 2016, this has been our general "This is LibreOffice" promotional
> video:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KC0ZdcA6s8
>
> It's quite old now, so I think we should create a newer (and shorter)
> one. This is my idea so far -- unlisted, so please don't share beyond
> this group!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R5x5uzRUAA
>
> All feedback welcome. Of course, if anyone with video editing skills
> wants to help out with improvements, that would be even better :-)
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Call

[John Mills]

Hi Italo,
I think we should look forward to the next major release, take stock of coming 
features and how they should be promoted.
I would also like to discuss the first start/ installation that Heiko has been 
working on and how that can be a positive win win for our users and the 
Document Foundation by providing information about the project and how it can 
be an avenue for personalisation like UI selection, dark mode etc. it could be 
a way to direct users to contributing to the project and where to seek help.
Also can we talk about projects moving to OnlyOffice instead of LibreOffice for 
deployments.
Kind regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Microsoft dilemma

[Paolo]

Il 20/04/24 11:42, Bastien Guerry ha scritto:

Hi Paolo,

I cannot use youtube right now: could you share a written summary?

Thanks!


No.  Here is a kind of description from another page:


https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=duaYLW7LQvg


"Wanna Cry" was just the latest wake-up call: the cyber attack with the 
blackmail Trojan hit hundreds of thousands of computers in over 100 
countries in May 2017. But how can only one malware program paralyze 
companies, hospitals and even intelligence services all over the world 
at the same time? The answer has a name: Microsoft.


A film by Harald Schumann and Árpád Bondy

Find the full-length interviews from this film here: 
youtube.com/c/HaraldSchumannOnTheTrail


Many state and public administrations from Helsinki to Lisbon operate 
with the software of the US corporation. It makes them vulnerable for 
hackers and spies, violates European public procurement law, blocks 
technical progress and costs Europe dearly.
Harald Schumann and his Investigate Europe research team have spoken to 
insiders and managers throughout Europe about this. Martin Schallbruch, 
the former head of IT at the German Government, reports how the states 
are becoming increasingly dependent on Microsoft. A top Dutch lawyer 
describes how the EU Commission and governments are violating European 
procurement law. In France, the Ministry of Defence has bypassed 
parliament in concluding secret contracts with Microsoft, so Senator 
Joelie Garriaud-Maylam now wants to set up a committee of inquiry. The 
Hamburg data protection officer Johannes Caspar warns that the Microsoft 
systems could expose private data of citizens to investigation by the US 
secret services. Internal documents prove that the Federal Office for 
Information Security shares this mistrust.
Both the European Parliament and the German Bundestag have therefore 
repeatedly called for state IT systems to be converted to open source 
software that can be tested by Europe's own security authorities. 
Italy's army has also begun this change, tells Italian general Camillo 
Sileo. The same is true for police authorities in France and Lithuania 
or the cities of Rome and Barcelona. But why do most governments oppose 
against the alternatives, or even - as in the case of the city of Munich 
- return into the arms of the monopolist Microsoft? Andrup Ansip, EU 
Commissioner for the Digital Single Market and other stakeholders face 
the questions.




What an excellent documentary. Unfortunately, the EU is full of 
bureaucrats who either don't care, or have a vested interest in 
maintaining the status quo. It is impossible to argue that they are 
acting in the best interests of the European Union.


I was so ashamed and angered when I visited the EU website to watch a 
debate in EU parliament, only to discover I needed to install 
Microsoft's Silverlight to do so - something that is not available Linux 
(and no, "Moonlight" didn't work).


As an EU taxpayer, I find this reprehensible, and borderline illegal. 
There are open alternatives out there. This isn't "democracy" at all - 
it's "democracy if you use Microsoft products". The EU should hang its 
head in shame!!!




On the same subject:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1321219/lobbying-expenses-of-microsoft-eu/

https://www.lobbyfacts.eu/datacard/microsoft-corporation?rid=0801162959-21

https://corporateeurope.org/en/2021/08/lobby-network-big-techs-web-influence-eu

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/09/11/tech-companies-spend-more-than-100-million-a-year-on-eu-digital-lobbying


I am working since years to build a world based on open source, circular 
economy and renewable energy.  But some people are using heavy 
weapons.  Don't politicians know governments, schools and 
universities are using taxpayers' money ?



Paolo


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Microsoft dilemma

[Bastien Guerry]

Hi Paolo,

Paolo Debortoli  writes:

> I ask often myself why public institutions don't use and supporto FOSS
> software as Amazon, Google and other big enterprises do. Here Is an
> answer:
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=duaYLW7LQvg_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marcosbox.org%2F_ve_path=Mjg2NjY=emb_logo

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

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In order to work out how to address this problem we need, perhaps, to put 
ourselves in the postion of a teacher or another lower level employee receiving 
an email or flyer from somebody they don't know about the benefits of 
LibreOffice.

Imagine, you've been working only with Microsoft Office for your entire career. 
You use it at  home as well. How can there be anything wrong with it? What is 
"open source" anyway? Somebody is trying to pursuade you of an advantage you 
don't even understand. The term "proprietary software" really doesn't mean much 
more to you than "open source". Are you likely to go to your boss and suggest 
that their purchasing decisions are wrong, especially when you're not even 
clear in your own mind what is wrong with MS Office? I suggest that you 
wouldn't.

I've distributed several hundred LO flyers to schools, colleges and my local 
university campus over the last few years. I like think that it has not been 
wasted effort, especially amongst some students who will have seen the flyers 
and been attrracted by the concept  of a free office suite - but mainly in the 
sense of "gratis". I am not optimistic that they have had any impact at the 
organisational level, because "ground up" pressure tends not to work in 
publicly funded institutions, if it exists at all. I really am coming round to 
the view that the push needs to be at the top level, where spending decisions 
are made, and also upon people who can have influence on those decision makers 
- local councillors and other elected representatives who can ask questions 
about how public funds are spent.

All the best

Nige

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Sent: 12 April 2024 11:25
To: András Rigler ; Marc Paré 
Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: 
Freeing schools from proprietary software

Hi András, everyone,

On 12/04/2024 11:44, András Rigler wrote:
 >
> As long as the school provides
> free Windows and Office licence to the students, no one is at disadvantage.

Well, it could be argued that training students on closed, proprietary
software from a single vendor puts them at a disadvantage, as they'll
get locked-in to that software and eventually have to pay for it. "The
first hit is free" etc. :-)

> A teacher can't be prepared to a situation
> where all students use the software of their own choice in the classroom,
> so it must be accepted that the teacher chooses one specific software to be
> used by all students at school.

Agreed. But we're on the marketing list for the LibreOffice project, and
all (presumably) big advocates of free and open source software, so of
course we'd like to encourage teachers and schools to use
freedom-respecting software, rather than locking students in :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Mike Saunders]

Hi András, everyone,

On 12/04/2024 11:44, András Rigler wrote:
>

As long as the school provides
free Windows and Office licence to the students, no one is at disadvantage.


Well, it could be argued that training students on closed, proprietary 
software from a single vendor puts them at a disadvantage, as they'll 
get locked-in to that software and eventually have to pay for it. "The 
first hit is free" etc. :-)



A teacher can't be prepared to a situation
where all students use the software of their own choice in the classroom,
so it must be accepted that the teacher chooses one specific software to be
used by all students at school.


Agreed. But we're on the marketing list for the LibreOffice project, and 
all (presumably) big advocates of free and open source software, so of 
course we'd like to encourage teachers and schools to use 
freedom-respecting software, rather than locking students in :-)


Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[András Rigler]

Hi Marc,
in the students' original post, the question to which the 'correct' answer
was Microsoft Excel was 'what software will they use' during the course,
not 'what software can they use'. It was probably the first lesson where
the teacher introduced the curriculum of the course and told the students
they would work with Excel in the course. As long as the school provides
free Windows and Office licence to the students, no one is at disadvantage.
On the other hand, all spreadsheet software are different - the same
functionalities can be accessed slightly differently, there can be
different dialog boxes etc. A teacher can't be prepared to a situation
where all students use the software of their own choice in the classroom,
so it must be accepted that the teacher chooses one specific software to be
used by all students at school. It is another question to let the students
do their homework using whatever software, as long as their work can be
converted into or read by the software they use at school.
Cheers,
András

Marc Paré  ezt írta (időpont: 2024. ápr. 12., P, 10:45):

> It would be nice if someone at LibreOffice could send a response to that
> school whereby the use of the phrase "you are being `fact-checked`" and
> dispute the forced use of MS Office, and then send the usual reasons in
> order to educate the school re: LibreOffice. The fact that LibreOffice
> is universally available to all on any platform and where MS Office is
> not available on Linux, these days, is embarrassing - students using
> Linux as their operating system are being placed at a clear disadvantage
> by that school.
>
> Marc
>
> Le 2024-03-26 à 06 h 07, Mike Saunders a écrit :
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > On Twitter (I mean, "X") someone posted about their school requiring
> > students to use Microsoft Office. Even worse, the school has a quiz
> > for new students where they are asked what software they can use, and
> > LibreOffice is an option, but the "correct" answer is Microsoft
> > Office. Here's the thread:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/WarlockN1ck/status/1771748533038911601
> >
> > And for those who don't want to use "X", a screenshot:
> >
> > https://i.imgur.com/nvxTvAm.png
> >
> > So what can we do about this? My idea is a short infographic that we
> > can post in response to such things, pointing out the benefits of FOSS
> > (especially with regards to data privacy) and how it's important for
> > students to have choice in the tools they use, and the value of
> > learning other tools.
> >
> > Ideas and mockups very welcome :-)
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Marc Paré]

It would be nice if someone at LibreOffice could send a response to that 
school whereby the use of the phrase "you are being `fact-checked`" and 
dispute the forced use of MS Office, and then send the usual reasons in 
order to educate the school re: LibreOffice. The fact that LibreOffice 
is universally available to all on any platform and where MS Office is 
not available on Linux, these days, is embarrassing - students using 
Linux as their operating system are being placed at a clear disadvantage 
by that school.


Marc

Le 2024-03-26 à 06 h 07, Mike Saunders a écrit :

Hi everyone,

On Twitter (I mean, "X") someone posted about their school requiring 
students to use Microsoft Office. Even worse, the school has a quiz 
for new students where they are asked what software they can use, and 
LibreOffice is an option, but the "correct" answer is Microsoft 
Office. Here's the thread:


https://twitter.com/WarlockN1ck/status/1771748533038911601

And for those who don't want to use "X", a screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/nvxTvAm.png

So what can we do about this? My idea is a short infographic that we 
can post in response to such things, pointing out the benefits of FOSS 
(especially with regards to data privacy) and how it's important for 
students to have choice in the tools they use, and the value of 
learning other tools.


Ideas and mockups very welcome :-)




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] I'll promote LibreOffice & TDF on DebConf 2024 in Busan, South Korea

[Ravi Dwivedi]

Hi,

On 05/04/24 14:40, DaeHyun Sung wrote:

Hello, I'm DaeHyun Sung, LibreOffice Korean Team leader & TDF member in Korea.

In this year(2024), DebConf 2024 will be held at Pukyong National
University(부경대학교) in Busan, South Korea from July 28(Sunday) to August
04(Sunday), 2024.

I want to give LibreOffice promotional stickers to conference
attendees. What files can I refer to?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Material


We shared LibreOffice stickers and flyers during DebConf23 in India. 
Basically, Mike posted those to me here and I kept them along the 
stickers. Local printing might help reduce the cost if you can find 
appropriate shops.


I was planning to help this time too but right now, I am not 100% sure I 
will be able to make it to DebConf24.





Like LibreOffice Japanese Team & Taiwan Team's event, I want to make a
booth in South Korea.
However, due to my family issues(My wife's cancer treatment and taking
care of my 1-year-old child),
It will be difficult for me to create a booth on DebConf24.


I don't want to commit to managing the booth on my own during DebConf, 
but I can help if we have a few people on the booth.



(I plan to submit the proposal session for LibreOffice-related)

I am wondering if anyone from TDF would be interested in presenting
DebConf24 sessions.

If anyone is going to be at DebConf24, I'd love to meet you.

Sincerely,
DaeHyun Sung(성대현,ソン・デヒョン, 成大鉉)



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Paolo]

Hi people.

In different ways it is clear that Microsoft often pays money (to 
school, universities, EU political parties and institutions) to promote 
the use of proprietary software. Then it is clear even that Microsoft 
even make the rules:


https://www.edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/2024/european-commissions-use-microsoft-365-infringes-data-protection-law-eu-institutions-and-bodies_en

This was clear since the cancellation of the LiMux project in the city 
of Munich:


https://itsfoss.com/munich-linux-failure/

I guess that sending printed manuals including installation DVDs to 
public and school libraries and organizing courses in schools can be 
good strategies.  Something like: 'how to write a dissertation in 
LibreOffice, including tables, data import from softwares...'.


Following also the principle: 'public money  public code'.

Eu Commission has some initiatives for open source, but I am not expert 
about:


https://commission.europa.eu/about-european-commission/departments-and-executive-agencies/digital-services/open-source-software-strategy_en

https://www.thecyberhive.eu/community/events/eu-open-source-policy-summit-2024

https://eucloudedgeiot.eu/event/eu-open-source-policy-summit-2024/

I am always trying to promote the use of LibreOffice, R, linux, freecad 
and so on when possible... not understanding why people complain about 
taxpayer's money and the costs of studying in many cases, but not in 
this one.


Italian army saves 10 millions euro/year by using LibreOffice (the so 
called libredifesa project).


Paolo


Il 27/03/24 10:09, Clocked Modular ha scritto:

Hi Mike and all,

In fact, I believe this is good news.
Apparently, Microsoft really sees us as a threat. This looks like
desperation marketing from Microsoft.
We also could make education material for schools, together with other data
privacy minded open source initiatives. Maybe we can get subsidized by the
EU for that.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

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Hi Mike and all,

In fact, I believe this is good news.
Apparently, Microsoft really sees us as a threat. This looks like
desperation marketing from Microsoft.
We also could make education material for schools, together with other data
privacy minded open source initiatives. Maybe we can get subsidized by the
EU for that.

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Op di 26 mrt 2024 om 11:09 schreef Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org>:

> Hi everyone,
>
> On Twitter (I mean, "X") someone posted about their school requiring
> students to use Microsoft Office. Even worse, the school has a quiz for
> new students where they are asked what software they can use, and
> LibreOffice is an option, but the "correct" answer is Microsoft Office.
> Here's the thread:
>
> https://twitter.com/WarlockN1ck/status/1771748533038911601
>
> And for those who don't want to use "X", a screenshot:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/nvxTvAm.png
>
> So what can we do about this? My idea is a short infographic that we can
> post in response to such things, pointing out the benefits of FOSS
> (especially with regards to data privacy) and how it's important for
> students to have choice in the tools they use, and the value of learning
> other tools.
>
> Ideas and mockups very welcome :-)
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Public libraries can be a good entry point for raising open source awareness

[warrencamilleri]

Thanks for this phil, mind if i use the matterials and ideas to pitch towards 
the local libraries near me some of them already have a kids scheme to engage 
themto use the libraries more

Regards,
Warren
Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Mar 2024, at 18:59, Phil Shapiro  wrote:
> 
> 
> I work as the public geek at a public library in Maryland. Libraries can be a 
> good entry point for open source. My library has been committed to open source
> for more than 25 years, so my place on work is already fully on board 
> already, but I visit other public libraries in the Washington DC-area to 
> nudge them forward.
> 
> For raising open source awareness using public libraries I recommend these 
> steps:
> 
> 1. Get to know the staff at your local public library. Find out how open 
> minded they are. If they are not so open minded, don't try to change them. 
> Just move
> on. They are not worth your time.
> 
> If they are open minded, tell them that you'd like to volunteer to teach a 
> workshop on LibreOffice. For me, LibreOffice Draw is the most enjoyable entry 
> point.
> I use the speech bubbles (callouts) in Draw on top of funny animal photos 
> from the web. Kids love it if you ask them, "What do you think this dog is 
> saying?
> What is this elephant saying? What is this monkey saying?" Then, type their 
> text into the speech bubble, print it out -- and they become a walking 
> testimonial
> for LibreOffice.
> 
> 2. Point out to library staff that open source promotes digital inclusion. 
> You can share with them an article I wrote for PCWorld magazine, back in 2011.
> "Does Free Software Promote Dignity." A link to his article can be found on 
> my opensource.com profile page at [ https://opensource.com/users/pshapiro | 
> https://opensource.com/users/pshapiro ]
> 
> 3. For the past year, I've been having a blast using LibreOffice Calc to 
> create a fun, free paper-based math game which promotes conversations about 
> numbers
> around the dining room table. See [ http://pairsmathgame.com/ | 
> http://pairsmathgame.com ] . and the recent article I wrote for Computers in 
> Libraries magazine, accessible here.
> [ 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EpAYR-YHrOEvc6aBSykYK5-92Z5ucKNl/view?usp=sharing
>  | 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EpAYR-YHrOEvc6aBSykYK5-92Z5ucKNl/view?usp=sharing
>  ]
> 
> 4. Public libraries, by definition, are interested in storytelling. Did you 
> know you can LibreOffice Draw to do 8K storytelling on YouTube? See my example
> video at [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsgg4hgjdoY | 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsgg4hgjdoY ]
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Phil Shapiro
> Silver Spring, Maryland
> 
> 
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RE: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Warren Camilleri]

I concur with Norman and Sully,

The education section is too big and there are more powerful players stacked 
against us, but on the more local level we may have better chances

Do know that educational have:
- K12 License (most are free or really cheap vs business) and grants so 
tough sell there.
- Some even get  grants/sponsorship donations just cos they work with 
MS or google to the yearly funding - again tough sell there...

There are countries that have opted for hybrid or outright OSS (I belive 
Germany, Estonia and Poland lead in this) in the case of Malta, I can say that 
come local councils use a hybrid of propriety and open source software. There 
was a time when the  government tech entity MITA had made a white paper for OSS 
in governance, but having worked with them and seen the actual results of its 
implementation it's not as one would of dreamed to be but at least it’s a foot 
in the door as this leaves it be a hybrid model of most end points (end users) 
are MS based for Operating system and Office, the OSS side is more server/IT 
dept side...

it’s a challenge but some places like the Malta local councils association, I 
have had negotiations and demonstrations for OSS, and this has been implemented 
in public free "use" assets in library's, civic centers and such so that 
funding may be put into more Quality of life programs, when placing in an AD 
Domain there is a whole can of worms to deal with and the major part is 
OSWAP/cyber secuirty and Support.

Another options Is knowledge sharing base for MSP/Tech support providers, as 
means to please their tighter budgeted clients who are cost cutting and want to 
be free from licensing but still want the support (SLA Agreements) and marking 
it towards startups, SOHO, SME's, VO's as this will allows us to network more 
and grow prior to going for K12 users

also a lot of places are integrating into MS office due to Teams, SharePoint 
and Outlook being under one hat, the same applies for google with meet, Gdrive 
and workspace and their native support in their respected operating systems... 
which makes me also want to highlight what other projects play nice with 
integrations to achieve the same if not be a "stand out point" (maybe I am 
going down the rabbit hole, but each field needs to be seem for their current 
needs, where they can grow and the Quality of life it offers)
 
I have been at this since 2006 when I founded ossmalta and was a member of 
OpenOffice Mar-Con team prior to the oracle forcing the community to form 
LibreOffice, and when dealing with public offices and officials I have learnt 
that things will be slow if it's not beneficial for them  in terms of funding, 
public optics and the right connections sadly...

Regards,
Warren Camilleri

-Original Message-
From: Norman Rides  
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 5:31 PM
To: Sully Sullivan ; marketing 

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: 
Freeing schools from proprietary software

I was surprised to find in Ireland that the reliance on the ECDL meant that OS 
applications are regarded as a bit odd. Fortunately my employer flew the flag 
for LibreOffice, although some new employees did grumble at first. My employer 
was a co-operative and viewed OpenSource as being in line with co-operative 
values. Indeed the ICA Guidance on co-operative values and principles makes 
direct reference to OpenSource software. a few years ago there was a massive 
data breach in the Health Services Authority which appeared to have been caused 
by some units in the Health Service still using patched-up Windows 7 systems.

In the UK OS is a little bit more established in the voluntary and co-operative 
sector and I think that this would be a good marketing target. It is in fact 
the reason I joined this group. There used to be a group in Cambridge called (I 
think) Net Riders, which provided training and support to Third Sector OS 
users. I believe that Norfolk County Council is OpenSource but this may have 
changed. It got started by renovating obsolete hardware, stripping out the 
Windows OS, installing OS, and selling them cheaply to individuals and small 
organisations. 
This turned Microsoft's obsolescence strategy against it.

The Co-operative Movement and the wider Third Sector (Charities and Social 
Enterprises) are a fruitful field for increasing market penetration. A mapping 
of the sector to identify target organisations in each country would be a start.

Happy to help,

Norman Rides



On 26/03/2024 16:10, Sully Sullivan wrote:
> I think this underscores the need to market ourselves effectively to 
> local-level governments. But perhaps think a little smaller than the school 
> systems. Education is not the low-hanging fruit on that branch. I'll explain.
>
>
>
> A part of the problem I see here is that public school curricula need several 
> layers of approval and that even

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Norman Rides]

I was surprised to find in Ireland that the reliance on the ECDL meant 
that OS applications are regarded as a bit odd. Fortunately my employer 
flew the flag for LibreOffice, although some new employees did grumble 
at first. My employer was a co-operative and viewed OpenSource as being 
in line with co-operative values. Indeed the ICA Guidance on 
co-operative values and principles makes direct reference to OpenSource 
software. a few years ago there was a massive data breach in the Health 
Services Authority which appeared to have been caused by some units in 
the Health Service still using patched-up Windows 7 systems.


In the UK OS is a little bit more established in the voluntary and 
co-operative sector and I think that this would be a good marketing 
target. It is in fact the reason I joined this group. There used to be a 
group in Cambridge called (I think) Net Riders, which provided training 
and support to Third Sector OS users. I believe that Norfolk County 
Council is OpenSource but this may have changed. It got started by 
renovating obsolete hardware, stripping out the Windows OS, installing 
OS, and selling them cheaply to individuals and small organisations. 
This turned Microsoft's obsolescence strategy against it.


The Co-operative Movement and the wider Third Sector (Charities and 
Social Enterprises) are a fruitful field for increasing market 
penetration. A mapping of the sector to identify target organisations in 
each country would be a start.


Happy to help,

Norman Rides



On 26/03/2024 16:10, Sully Sullivan wrote:

I think this underscores the need to market ourselves effectively to 
local-level governments. But perhaps think a little smaller than the school 
systems. Education is not the low-hanging fruit on that branch. I'll explain.



A part of the problem I see here is that public school curricula need several 
layers of approval and that even a small school department is a very complex 
hive. The ecosystem around large proprietary user bases and huge educational 
publishers is one chokepoint. It's not just MSOffice that crowds this space. 
Google, for instance, has large resources devoted to getting US schools to 
purchase ChromeBooks for their students and faculty, to use the Google 
Classroom suite of educational management apps, and to teach using Workplace 
system that is our competitor. Cf. https://edu.google.com/  You'll see that 
there are sales teams, trainers, developers, etc. devoted just to the schools 
market.




If we can get much smaller entities of municipal government to forego expensive 
proprietary software licenses--the public works office, the library system, the 
town clerk--as a discretionary choice so that their funding can go to other 
programs, then there are inroads to the bigger budgets within government.


Best,


Sully








 On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 11:42:32 -0400   wrote ---



Good evening all

To clarify that the uk and most of the eu educational institutions follow the 
ECDL curriculum which is MS based sadly, LO is featured with linux under the 
ICDL and woth todays generations computer users like us are seen as power users 
as many are more adjusted to using thier phones and tablets for everything 
these days through an app, some dont know what a folder/directory means

Do keep it in mind that most educational curriculum is centered around moulding 
the young for the workforce and not for life and the many options it tosses at 
them

I may be out of line to say that this is a
Paradox for OSS vs proprietary in the educational feild as it is mosty following 
what the market’s & government strengths are..

Regards
Warren

- ossmalta.eu / mt.libreoffice.org
Sent from my iPhone


On 26 Mar 2024, at 14:14, mailto:nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Mike

This is indicative of a widescale problem. At my daughter's school the "Information 
Technology" classes were not generic e.g how to use a spreadsheet, database or word 
processing/presentation application. It was specifically how to use Microsoft Office - 
nothing else.

At one parents' meeting I took the IT head of department to task over this, asking why no 
reference was ever made to free/open source software. He seemed to know roughly what 
"open source" means but had not the slightest clue about the concept of free 
software and no interest in open standards or open formats.

All the while this is indicative of the level to which our children are being taught the 
only scope for the adoption of FLOSS applications by the general public is going to be 
limited to nerds and other "self starters". This suggests to me that the 
emphasis - in the UK at least - needs to be on business, where staff use whatever 
applications are mandated by their organisation. In my early days of using computers I 
tended to use at home whatever applications I'd grown used to using 40 hours a week at 
work. Perhaps that same principle might eventually apply and the wider use of 
applications like LO could

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Sully Sullivan]

I think this underscores the need to market ourselves effectively to 
local-level governments. But perhaps think a little smaller than the school 
systems. Education is not the low-hanging fruit on that branch. I'll explain.



A part of the problem I see here is that public school curricula need several 
layers of approval and that even a small school department is a very complex 
hive. The ecosystem around large proprietary user bases and huge educational 
publishers is one chokepoint. It's not just MSOffice that crowds this space. 
Google, for instance, has large resources devoted to getting US schools to 
purchase ChromeBooks for their students and faculty, to use the Google 
Classroom suite of educational management apps, and to teach using Workplace 
system that is our competitor. Cf. https://edu.google.com/  You'll see that 
there are sales teams, trainers, developers, etc. devoted just to the schools 
market. 




If we can get much smaller entities of municipal government to forego expensive 
proprietary software licenses--the public works office, the library system, the 
town clerk--as a discretionary choice so that their funding can go to other 
programs, then there are inroads to the bigger budgets within government.


Best,


Sully








 On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 11:42:32 -0400   wrote ---



Good evening all

To clarify that the uk and most of the eu educational institutions follow the 
ECDL curriculum which is MS based sadly, LO is featured with linux under the 
ICDL and woth todays generations computer users like us are seen as power users 
as many are more adjusted to using thier phones and tablets for everything 
these days through an app, some dont know what a folder/directory means

Do keep it in mind that most educational curriculum is centered around moulding 
the young for the workforce and not for life and the many options it tosses at 
them

I may be out of line to say that this is a
Paradox for OSS vs proprietary in the educational feild as it is mosty 
following what the market’s & government strengths are..

Regards
Warren

- ossmalta.eu / mt.libreoffice.org
Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Mar 2024, at 14:14, mailto:nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike
> 
> This is indicative of a widescale problem. At my daughter's school the 
> "Information Technology" classes were not generic e.g how to use a 
> spreadsheet, database or word processing/presentation application. It was 
> specifically how to use Microsoft Office - nothing else.
> 
> At one parents' meeting I took the IT head of department to task over this, 
> asking why no reference was ever made to free/open source software. He seemed 
> to know roughly what "open source" means but had not the slightest clue about 
> the concept of free software and no interest in open standards or open 
> formats.
> 
> All the while this is indicative of the level to which our children are being 
> taught the only scope for the adoption of FLOSS applications by the general 
> public is going to be limited to nerds and other "self starters". This 
> suggests to me that the emphasis - in the UK at least - needs to be on 
> business, where staff use whatever applications are mandated by their 
> organisation. In my early days of using computers I tended to use at home 
> whatever applications I'd grown used to using 40 hours a week at work. 
> Perhaps that same principle might eventually apply and the wider use of 
> applications like LO could
> ripple out from the workplace.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Nige
> 
> LibreOffice - Free and open source office suite: LibreOffice 
> Website
> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data​
> 
> From: Mike Saunders 
> Sent: 26 March 2024 10:07
> To: Marketing list 
> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing 
> schools from proprietary software
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> On Twitter (I mean, "X") someone posted about their school requiring
> students to use Microsoft Office. Even worse, the school has a quiz for
> new students where they are asked what software they can use, and
> LibreOffice is an option, but the "correct" answer is Microsoft Office.
> Here's the thread:
> 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FWarlockN1ck%2Fstatus%2F1771748533038911601=05%7C02%7C%7Cc93f52042af64f05947908dc4d7cd659%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638470445774235987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=Hk513vhDtuym8vzJecPi1uhXZbPdkPV%2FNSKnWJ10O3k%3D=0
> 
> And for those who don't want to use "X", a screenshot:
> 
> 

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[warrencamilleri]

Good evening all

To clarify that the uk and most of the eu educational institutions follow the 
ECDL curriculum which is MS based sadly, LO is featured with linux under the 
ICDL and woth todays generations computer users like us are seen as power users 
as many are more adjusted to using thier phones and tablets for everything 
these days through an app, some dont know what a folder/directory means

Do keep it in mind that most educational curriculum is centered around moulding 
the young for the workforce and not for life and the many options it tosses at 
them

I may be out of line to say that this is a
Paradox for OSS vs proprietary in the educational feild as it is mosty 
following what the market’s & government strengths are..

Regards
Warren

- ossmalta.eu / mt.libreoffice.org
Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Mar 2024, at 14:14, nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike
> 
> This is indicative of a widescale problem. At my daughter's school the 
> "Information Technology" classes were not generic e.g how to use a 
> spreadsheet, database or word processing/presentation application. It was 
> specifically how to use Microsoft Office - nothing else.
> 
> At one parents' meeting I took the IT head of department to task over this, 
> asking why no reference was ever made to free/open source software. He seemed 
> to know roughly what "open source" means but had not the slightest clue about 
> the concept of free software and no interest in open standards or open 
> formats.
> 
> All the while this is indicative of the level to which our children are being 
> taught the only scope for the adoption of FLOSS applications by the general 
> public is going to be limited to nerds and other "self starters". This 
> suggests to me that the emphasis - in the UK at least - needs to be on 
> business, where staff use whatever applications are mandated by their 
> organisation. In my early days of using computers I tended to use at home 
> whatever applications I'd grown used to using 40 hours a week at work. 
> Perhaps that same principle might eventually apply and the wider use of 
> applications like LO could
> ripple out from the workplace.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Nige
> 
> LibreOffice - Free and open source office suite: LibreOffice 
> Website
> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data​
> 
> From: Mike Saunders 
> Sent: 26 March 2024 10:07
> To: Marketing list 
> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing 
> schools from proprietary software
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> On Twitter (I mean, "X") someone posted about their school requiring
> students to use Microsoft Office. Even worse, the school has a quiz for
> new students where they are asked what software they can use, and
> LibreOffice is an option, but the "correct" answer is Microsoft Office.
> Here's the thread:
> 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FWarlockN1ck%2Fstatus%2F1771748533038911601=05%7C02%7C%7Cc93f52042af64f05947908dc4d7cd659%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638470445774235987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=Hk513vhDtuym8vzJecPi1uhXZbPdkPV%2FNSKnWJ10O3k%3D=0
> 
> And for those who don't want to use "X", a screenshot:
> 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnvxTvAm.png=05%7C02%7C%7Cc93f52042af64f05947908dc4d7cd659%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638470445774244181%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=%2BCvwMKgE6IoHOQn6KLxZuMl2Jce1v1XJt7pEOdeZDX4%3D=0
> 
> So what can we do about this? My idea is a short infographic that we can
> post in response to such things, pointing out the benefits of FOSS
> (especially with regards to data privacy) and how it's important for
> students to have choice in the tools they use, and the value of learning
> other tools.
> 
> Ideas and mockups very welcome :-)
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[nigelver...@hotmail.com]

Hi Mike

This is indicative of a widescale problem. At my daughter's school the 
"Information Technology" classes were not generic e.g how to use a spreadsheet, 
database or word processing/presentation application. It was specifically how 
to use Microsoft Office - nothing else.

At one parents' meeting I took the IT head of department to task over this, 
asking why no reference was ever made to free/open source software. He seemed 
to know roughly what "open source" means but had not the slightest clue about 
the concept of free software and no interest in open standards or open formats.

All the while this is indicative of the level to which our children are being 
taught the only scope for the adoption of FLOSS applications by the general 
public is going to be limited to nerds and other "self starters". This suggests 
to me that the emphasis - in the UK at least - needs to be on business, where 
staff use whatever applications are mandated by their organisation. In my early 
days of using computers I tended to use at home whatever applications I'd grown 
used to using 40 hours a week at work. Perhaps that same principle might 
eventually apply and the wider use of applications like LO could
ripple out from the workplace.

All the best

Nige

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Website
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From: Mike Saunders 
Sent: 26 March 2024 10:07
To: Marketing list 
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing 
schools from proprietary software

Hi everyone,

On Twitter (I mean, "X") someone posted about their school requiring
students to use Microsoft Office. Even worse, the school has a quiz for
new students where they are asked what software they can use, and
LibreOffice is an option, but the "correct" answer is Microsoft Office.
Here's the thread:

https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FWarlockN1ck%2Fstatus%2F1771748533038911601=05%7C02%7C%7Cc93f52042af64f05947908dc4d7cd659%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638470445774235987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=Hk513vhDtuym8vzJecPi1uhXZbPdkPV%2FNSKnWJ10O3k%3D=0

And for those who don't want to use "X", a screenshot:

https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnvxTvAm.png=05%7C02%7C%7Cc93f52042af64f05947908dc4d7cd659%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638470445774244181%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=%2BCvwMKgE6IoHOQn6KLxZuMl2Jce1v1XJt7pEOdeZDX4%3D=0

So what can we do about this? My idea is a short infographic that we can
post in response to such things, pointing out the benefits of FOSS
(especially with regards to data privacy) and how it's important for
students to have choice in the tools they use, and the value of learning
other tools.

Ideas and mockups very welcome :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Badri Sunderarajan]

Hi Mike (and LibreOffice marketing team!)

I have added Badri in Cc, who is willing to help create an 
infographic. I might be able to help with some ideas/content.


I can make infographics, but since I don't use document processors much 
(and never used proprietary ones) I'm not too aware of the specfiic 
arguments surrounding them. Do you know of any exsiting 
discussions/articles/blog posts which I can use as a reference?


Anyway, off the top of my head here are some points we could address! 
I'm guessing my way through, so please correct/edit/add details as you 
see fit:
LibreOffice supports all the commonly used features that MS Office has 
(to combat the perception that it has less features)Some usage 
statistics such as "X organisations using LibreOffice" to show how 
widely used it is? We could also add number of contributors so people 
know it is active, but that is secondaryFree of charge: to make it 
accessible to more users. If you use MS Office without paying it's 
illegal but in LibreOffice it's allowed.MS Office license fees 
increasing over time/steep increase after student discount ends? (If 
this is true. I've seen it commonly in other proprietary setups though 
not specifically for MS Office. In fact they might even partner or 
sponsor free licenses to students, hoping that they'll get used to 
their product and eventually be hooked to it and start paying after 
graduation)I wonder if we can find out what kind of operations they do 
on MS Office in school? And display it as a direct checklist that 
"everything you need, we support in LibreOffice"
Also I'm not sure of your conventions around naming competitors: are we 
allowed to directly attack MS Office or should we just say "proprietary 
products" in a generic way?


—Badri


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing campaign/infographic idea: Freeing schools from proprietary software

[Ravi Dwivedi]

Hi Mike,

(Adding Badri to Cc)

On 26/03/24 15:37, Mike Saunders wrote:

Hi everyone,

On Twitter (I mean, "X") someone posted about their school requiring 
students to use Microsoft Office. Even worse, the school has a quiz for 
new students where they are asked what software they can use, and 
LibreOffice is an option, but the "correct" answer is Microsoft Office. 
Here's the thread:


https://twitter.com/WarlockN1ck/status/1771748533038911601

And for those who don't want to use "X", a screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/nvxTvAm.png

So what can we do about this? My idea is a short infographic that we can 
post in response to such things, pointing out the benefits of FOSS 
(especially with regards to data privacy) and how it's important for 
students to have choice in the tools they use, and the value of learning 
other tools.


I have added Badri in Cc, who is willing to help create an infographic. 
I might be able to help with some ideas/content.




Ideas and mockups very welcome :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[Mike Saunders]

Hello everyone,

Thanks so much for your translations! The subtitles are now available in 
22 languages:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs

There are still a few more to add, which I'm working on...

Cheers,
Mike


On 31/01/2024 13:58, Mike Saunders wrote:

Hi everyone,

We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs

The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to 
translate, we can add more languages:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script

Thanks a lot in advance! :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[sophi]

Hi,

A big thank you to all the translators, that's great to see translations 
of the subtitles in so many languages :)


Cheers
Sophie

Le 31/01/2024 à 13:58, Mike Saunders a écrit :

Hi everyone,

We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs

The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to 
translate, we can add more languages:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script

Thanks a lot in advance! :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[Sully Sullivan]

An Irish translation is probably not much value but here one is, anyway.

Best,
Sully



Roinnt gnéithe nua in LibreOffice 24.2

 Scéim leagan nua "year.month", mar sin tá LibreOffice 24.2 ó mhí Feabhra 2024

Is féidir le tuairimí anois stíleanna a úsáid

Calc: aibhsiú don ró agus don cholún gníomhach

Réimse cuardaigh nua sa bhosca dialóige roghanna

Loingseoir: tá na codanna folaithe liath anois

Tacaíocht níos fearr do tháblaí il-leathanaigh ar snámh

Calc: réimse cuardaigh sa deic barra taoibh Feidhmeanna

Impress: tacaíocht caipíní beaga

Cabhair leid le haghaidh sainroghanna cumraíochta

Math: is féidir cló foirmle a athrú anois

Léiríonn anuas carachtair speisialta cur síos anois

Léiriú ar neart pasfhocail agus comhaid criptithe á sábháil

Chomh maith le feabhsuithe comhoiriúnachta, treisithe feidhmíochta agus níos mó

Na gnéithe seo ag:

Íoslódáil LibreOffice 24.2








 On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 08:18:26 -0500 Ilmari Lauhakangas 
 wrote ---



If possible, please everyone add the translations directly into the wiki.

Ilmari

On 1.2.2024 14.13, Kelvene Requiroso wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Here's the modern Filipino/Tagalog (Philippines) translation:
> 
>  *
> 
> Mga bagong features ng LibreOffice 24.2
>  *
> 
> Bagong "taon.buwan" na kumbinasyon sa bersiyon, kaya ang LibreOffice 
> 24.2 ay galing sa Pebrero 2024
>  *
> 
> Puwede nang gamitin ang mga estilo sa pagkomento
>  *
> 
> Calc: pag-highlight sa aktibong row at column
>  *
> 
> Bagong search field sa options sa dialog box
>  *
> 
> Navigator: ginawa nang grey ang mga nakatagong seksyon
>  *
> 
> Mas mahusay na support para sa multi-page na floating tables
>  *
> 
> Calc: may search field sa Functions sa gilid na deck
>  *
> 
> Impress: mayroon nang support sa small caps
>  *
> 
> Tooltip help para sa mga opsyon sa expert configuration
>  *
> 
> Math: puwede nang baguhin ang font sa formula
>  *
> 
> Makikita na ang deskripsyon ng mga espesyal na karakter sa dropdown
>  *
> 
> Palatandaan na matibay ang password kapag nagsave ng encrypted files
>  *
> 
> Dagdag pa ang pagpapahusay sa compatibility, performance, at marami pa
>  *
> 
> Galing ang mga features na ito kina:
>  *
> 
> Idownload ang LibreOffice 24.2
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   Kelvene Requiroso
>   _National Sales Manager/OIC, ISMS Robotics_
>   MDM Technologies
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> On 2024-01-31 20:58, Mike Saunders wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs
>>
>> The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to 
>> translate, we can add more languages:
>>
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script
>>
>> Thanks a lot in advance! :-)
>>
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>> The Document Foundation
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[Ilmari Lauhakangas]

If possible, please everyone add the translations directly into the wiki.

Ilmari

On 1.2.2024 14.13, Kelvene Requiroso wrote:



Hello everyone,

Here's the modern Filipino/Tagalog (Philippines) translation:

 *

Mga bagong features ng LibreOffice 24.2
 *

Bagong "taon.buwan" na kumbinasyon sa bersiyon, kaya ang LibreOffice 
24.2 ay galing sa Pebrero 2024

 *

Puwede nang gamitin ang mga estilo sa pagkomento
 *

Calc: pag-highlight sa aktibong row at column
 *

Bagong search field sa options sa dialog box
 *

Navigator: ginawa nang grey ang mga nakatagong seksyon
 *

Mas mahusay na support para sa multi-page na floating tables
 *

Calc: may search field sa Functions sa gilid na deck
 *

Impress: mayroon nang support sa small caps
 *

Tooltip help para sa mga opsyon sa expert configuration
 *

Math: puwede nang baguhin ang font sa formula
 *

Makikita na ang deskripsyon ng mga espesyal na karakter sa dropdown
 *

Palatandaan na matibay ang password kapag nagsave ng encrypted files
 *

Dagdag pa ang pagpapahusay sa compatibility, performance, at marami pa
 *

Galing ang mga features na ito kina:
 *

Idownload ang LibreOffice 24.2

Thanks,

  Kelvene Requiroso
  _National Sales Manager/OIC, ISMS Robotics_
  MDM Technologies
  Mobile: (63)969-297-2796 | Email: kelv...@isms.ph | Websites: 
https://isms.ph | https://d24davao.isms.ph | https://robotics.isms.ph | 
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On 2024-01-31 20:58, Mike Saunders wrote:


Hi everyone,

We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs

The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to 
translate, we can add more languages:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script

Thanks a lot in advance! :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[Kelvene Requiroso]

Hello everyone,

Here's the modern Filipino/Tagalog (Philippines) translation:

*

Mga bagong features ng LibreOffice 24.2
*

Bagong "taon.buwan" na kumbinasyon sa bersiyon, kaya ang LibreOffice 
24.2 ay galing sa Pebrero 2024

*

Puwede nang gamitin ang mga estilo sa pagkomento
*

Calc: pag-highlight sa aktibong row at column
*

Bagong search field sa options sa dialog box
*

Navigator: ginawa nang grey ang mga nakatagong seksyon
*

Mas mahusay na support para sa multi-page na floating tables
*

Calc: may search field sa Functions sa gilid na deck
*

Impress: mayroon nang support sa small caps
*

Tooltip help para sa mga opsyon sa expert configuration
*

Math: puwede nang baguhin ang font sa formula
*

Makikita na ang deskripsyon ng mga espesyal na karakter sa dropdown
*

Palatandaan na matibay ang password kapag nagsave ng encrypted files
*

Dagdag pa ang pagpapahusay sa compatibility, performance, at marami pa
*

Galing ang mga features na ito kina:
*

Idownload ang LibreOffice 24.2

Thanks,

 Kelvene Requiroso
 _National Sales Manager/OIC, ISMS Robotics_
 MDM Technologies
 Mobile: (63)969-297-2796 | Email: kelv...@isms.ph | Websites: 
https://isms.ph | https://d24davao.isms.ph | https://robotics.isms.ph | 
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Hi everyone,

We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 
24.2:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs

The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to 
translate, we can add more languages:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script

Thanks a lot in advance! :-)

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Op wo 31 jan 2024 om 13:58 schreef Mike Saunders <
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> Hi everyone,
>
> We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs
>
> The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to
> translate, we can add more languages:
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script
>
> Thanks a lot in advance! :-)
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[Armando Soto Baeza]

Spanish:

1.

   Algunas características nuevas en LibreOffice 24.2

2.

   Nuevo esquema de versión “año.mes”, por lo que LibreOffice 24.2 es
   de febrero de 2024

3.

   Los comentarios ahora pueden usar estilos.

4.

   Calc: resaltado de la fila y columna activas

5.

   Nuevo campo de búsqueda en el cuadro de diálogo de opciones.

6.

   Navegador: las secciones ocultas ahora están atenuadas

7.

   Mejor soporte para tablas flotantes de varias páginas

8.

   Calc: campo de búsqueda en la barra lateral de Funciones

9.

   Impress: soporte para versalitas

10.

   Ayuda de información sobre herramientas para opciones de
   configuración expertas

11.

   Math la fuente de la fórmula ahora se puede cambiar

12.

   El menú desplegable de caracteres especiales ahora muestra descripciones

13.

   Indicación de seguridad de la contraseña al guardar archivos cifrados

14.

   Además de mejoras de compatibilidad, aumentos de rendimiento y más

15.

   Estas características por:

16.

   Descargar LibreOffice 24.2



El 31/01/24 a las 10:41, asja candic escribió:

Hi everyone,
Hope you're having an amazing week!

Here are Bosnian, Serbian, and Croatian translations. =)

Bosnian:

1. Šta je novo u LibreOffice 24.22. Nova numeracija verzije "godina.mjesec", pa 
je LibreOffice 24.2 iz februara 2024. godine 3. Komentari sada mogu koristiti stilove4. 
Calc: označavanje aktivnog reda i kolone5. Novo polje za pretragu u dijalogu opcija6. 
Navigator: skriveni dijelovi su sada zasivljeni7. Bolja podrška za plutajuće tablice s 
više stranica8. Calc: polje za pretraživanje u bočnoj traci Funkcija9. Impress: podrška 
za mala slova10. Skočni savjeti za napredne konfiguracijske opcije11. Math: font formule 
se sada može promijeniti12. Padajući izbornik za posebne znakove sada prikazuje opise13. 
Indikacija jačine lozinke prilikom spremanja šifriranih datoteka14. Plus poboljšanja 
kompatibilnosti, poboljšanja performansi i još mnogo toga15. Navede funkcije možete 
pronaći ovdje: 16. Preuzmite LibreOffice 24.2

Serbian:

1. Шта је ново у LibreOffice 24.22. Нова нумерација верзије „година.месец“, 
тако да је LibreOffice 24.2 из фебруара 2024. године3. Коментари сада могу да 
користе стилове4. Calc: означавање активног реда и колоне5. Ново поље за 
претрагу у дијалогу опција6. Навигатор: скривени делови су сада засивљени7. 
Боља подршка за плутајуће табеле са више страница8. Calc: поље за претрагу на 
бочној траци Функцијa9. Impress: подршка за мала слова10. Искачући савети за 
напредне опције конфигурације11. Мath: фонт формуле се сада може променити12. 
Падајући мени специјалних знакова сада приказује описе13. Индикација јачине 
лозинке приликом чувања шифрованих датотека14. Плус побољшања компатибилности, 
побољшања перформанси и још много тога15. Ове функције се могу наћи овде:16. 
Преузмите ЛибреОффице 24.2

Croatian:

1. Što je novo u LibreOffice 24.22. Novo numeriranje verzije "godina.mjesec", 
pa je LibreOffice 24.2 iz veljače 2024. godine 3. Komentari sada mogu koristiti stilove4. 
Calc: označavanje aktivnog retka i stupca5. Novo polje za pretragu u dijalogu opcija6. 
Navigator: skriveni dijelovi sada su zasivljeni7. Bolja podrška za plutajuće tablice s 
više stranica8. Calc: polje za pretraživanje u bočnoj traci Funkcija9. Impress: podrška 
za mala slova10. Skočni savjeti za opcije napredne konfiguracije11. Math: font formule 
sada se može promijeniti12. Padajući izbornik za posebne znakove sada prikazuje opise13. 
Indikacija snage lozinke prilikom spremanja šifriranih datoteka14. Plus poboljšanja 
kompatibilnosti, poboljšanja performansi i još mnogo toga15. Navede funkcije možete 
pronaći ovdje: 16. Preuzmite LibreOffice 24.2

Cheers,
Asja




  


 On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 04:46:38 PM GMT+1, András 
Rigler  wrote:
  
  Hi All,

sorry I just missed the reply-all :)

Hi Mike,
this is the Hungarian translation.
Cheers,
András

1. A LibreOffice 24.2 újdonságai
2. Új "év.hónap" verziószámozás, tehát a LibreOffice 24.2 2024. februári
3. A megjegyzések már stílusokat is használhatnak
4. Calc: Az aktív sor és oszlop kiemelése
5. Új keresőmező az opciók párbeszédpanelen
6. Navigátor: a rejtett szekciók mostantól szürkén jelennek meg
7. Jobb támogatás a többoldalas lebegő táblázatokhoz
8. Calc: keresőmező a Függvények oldalsávpanelen
9. Impress: kiskapitális támogatás
10. Felugró tippek a szakértői konfigurációs opcióknál
11. Math: a képlet betűtípusa most már megváltoztatható
12. A speciális karakterek legördülője már leírásokat is mutat
13. Jelszó erősségének jelzése titkosított fájlok mentésekor
14. További kompatibilitási javítások, teljesítménynövekedés és még sok más
15. Az újdonságokat fejlesztették:
16. Töltse le a LibreOffice 24.2-t

Mike Saunders  ezt írta (időpont:
2024. jan. 31., Sze, 15:53):


Hi everyone,

We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs

The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[asja candic]

Hi everyone, 
Hope you're having an amazing week! 

Here are Bosnian, Serbian, and Croatian translations. =)

Bosnian:

1. Šta je novo u LibreOffice 24.22. Nova numeracija verzije "godina.mjesec", pa 
je LibreOffice 24.2 iz februara 2024. godine 3. Komentari sada mogu koristiti 
stilove4. Calc: označavanje aktivnog reda i kolone5. Novo polje za pretragu u 
dijalogu opcija6. Navigator: skriveni dijelovi su sada zasivljeni7. Bolja 
podrška za plutajuće tablice s više stranica8. Calc: polje za pretraživanje u 
bočnoj traci Funkcija9. Impress: podrška za mala slova10. Skočni savjeti za 
napredne konfiguracijske opcije11. Math: font formule se sada može 
promijeniti12. Padajući izbornik za posebne znakove sada prikazuje opise13. 
Indikacija jačine lozinke prilikom spremanja šifriranih datoteka14. Plus 
poboljšanja kompatibilnosti, poboljšanja performansi i još mnogo toga15. Navede 
funkcije možete pronaći ovdje: 16. Preuzmite LibreOffice 24.2

Serbian:

1. Шта је ново у LibreOffice 24.22. Нова нумерација верзије „година.месец“, 
тако да је LibreOffice 24.2 из фебруара 2024. године3. Коментари сада могу да 
користе стилове4. Calc: означавање активног реда и колоне5. Ново поље за 
претрагу у дијалогу опција6. Навигатор: скривени делови су сада засивљени7. 
Боља подршка за плутајуће табеле са више страница8. Calc: поље за претрагу на 
бочној траци Функцијa9. Impress: подршка за мала слова10. Искачући савети за 
напредне опције конфигурације11. Мath: фонт формуле се сада може променити12. 
Падајући мени специјалних знакова сада приказује описе13. Индикација јачине 
лозинке приликом чувања шифрованих датотека14. Плус побољшања компатибилности, 
побољшања перформанси и још много тога15. Ове функције се могу наћи овде:16. 
Преузмите ЛибреОффице 24.2

Croatian:

1. Što je novo u LibreOffice 24.22. Novo numeriranje verzije "godina.mjesec", 
pa je LibreOffice 24.2 iz veljače 2024. godine 3. Komentari sada mogu koristiti 
stilove4. Calc: označavanje aktivnog retka i stupca5. Novo polje za pretragu u 
dijalogu opcija6. Navigator: skriveni dijelovi sada su zasivljeni7. Bolja 
podrška za plutajuće tablice s više stranica8. Calc: polje za pretraživanje u 
bočnoj traci Funkcija9. Impress: podrška za mala slova10. Skočni savjeti za 
opcije napredne konfiguracije11. Math: font formule sada se može promijeniti12. 
Padajući izbornik za posebne znakove sada prikazuje opise13. Indikacija snage 
lozinke prilikom spremanja šifriranih datoteka14. Plus poboljšanja 
kompatibilnosti, poboljšanja performansi i još mnogo toga15. Navede funkcije 
možete pronaći ovdje: 16. Preuzmite LibreOffice 24.2

Cheers,
Asja




 

On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 04:46:38 PM GMT+1, András Rigler 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi All,
sorry I just missed the reply-all :)

Hi Mike,
this is the Hungarian translation.
Cheers,
András

1. A LibreOffice 24.2 újdonságai
2. Új "év.hónap" verziószámozás, tehát a LibreOffice 24.2 2024. februári
3. A megjegyzések már stílusokat is használhatnak
4. Calc: Az aktív sor és oszlop kiemelése
5. Új keresőmező az opciók párbeszédpanelen
6. Navigátor: a rejtett szekciók mostantól szürkén jelennek meg
7. Jobb támogatás a többoldalas lebegő táblázatokhoz
8. Calc: keresőmező a Függvények oldalsávpanelen
9. Impress: kiskapitális támogatás
10. Felugró tippek a szakértői konfigurációs opcióknál
11. Math: a képlet betűtípusa most már megváltoztatható
12. A speciális karakterek legördülője már leírásokat is mutat
13. Jelszó erősségének jelzése titkosított fájlok mentésekor
14. További kompatibilitási javítások, teljesítménynövekedés és még sok más
15. Az újdonságokat fejlesztették:
16. Töltse le a LibreOffice 24.2-t

Mike Saunders  ezt írta (időpont:
2024. jan. 31., Sze, 15:53):

> Hi everyone,
>
> We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs
>
> The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to
> translate, we can add more languages:
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script
>
> Thanks a lot in advance! :-)
>
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> The Document Foundation
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

[András Rigler]

Hi All,
sorry I just missed the reply-all :)

Hi Mike,
this is the Hungarian translation.
Cheers,
András

1. A LibreOffice 24.2 újdonságai
2. Új "év.hónap" verziószámozás, tehát a LibreOffice 24.2 2024. februári
3. A megjegyzések már stílusokat is használhatnak
4. Calc: Az aktív sor és oszlop kiemelése
5. Új keresőmező az opciók párbeszédpanelen
6. Navigátor: a rejtett szekciók mostantól szürkén jelennek meg
7. Jobb támogatás a többoldalas lebegő táblázatokhoz
8. Calc: keresőmező a Függvények oldalsávpanelen
9. Impress: kiskapitális támogatás
10. Felugró tippek a szakértői konfigurációs opcióknál
11. Math: a képlet betűtípusa most már megváltoztatható
12. A speciális karakterek legördülője már leírásokat is mutat
13. Jelszó erősségének jelzése titkosított fájlok mentésekor
14. További kompatibilitási javítások, teljesítménynövekedés és még sok más
15. Az újdonságokat fejlesztették:
16. Töltse le a LibreOffice 24.2-t

Mike Saunders  ezt írta (időpont:
2024. jan. 31., Sze, 15:53):

> Hi everyone,
>
> We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs
>
> The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to
> translate, we can add more languages:
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script
>
> Thanks a lot in advance! :-)
>
> --
> Mike Saunders, Marketing and Community Coordinator
> The Document Foundation
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Reflections On Today's Meeting

[Kelvene Requiroso]

Hi,

Is it possible to put a 'donate' button on the top corner of the 
application? Like here:


The dev team might have thought about it already. It's worth exploring, 
I guess.


Thanks.

Kind regards,

Kelvene Requiroso

On 2024-01-19 08:35, Thorsten Behrens wrote:


Hi y'all,

Mike Saunders wrote:

Yes, and we suspect (and have done some research) that a big chunk of 
those
donations-while-downloading are from users who've been using 
LibreOffice for

a while, and are downloading an update. (After all, someone trying
LibreOffice for the very first time is unlikely to donate, before 
knowing if

they want to continue using it.)

As a heads-up, Windows users will likely be getting fully automatic
updates, starting with the 24.8 / summer version of LibreOffice [1 
[1]].


The auto-updater mechanism includes an optional custom url, which
LibreOffice will then open on restart after the upgrade. Perhaps worth
pondering how to make use of that for good effect, given the above?

Note that we assume that a lot of in particular Windows users are
running older LibreOffice versions, with some reticence to
update. Making the upgrade automatic, and showing a custom donation
page, might therefore already show a measurable effect.

[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/24.2#Core_/_General

and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Online_Update

Cheers,

-- Thorsten



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Reflections On Today's Meeting

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi y'all,

Mike Saunders wrote:
> Yes, and we suspect (and have done some research) that a big chunk of those
> donations-while-downloading are from users who've been using LibreOffice for
> a while, and are downloading an update. (After all, someone trying
> LibreOffice for the very first time is unlikely to donate, before knowing if
> they want to continue using it.)
> 
As a heads-up, Windows users will likely be getting fully automatic
updates, starting with the 24.8 / summer version of LibreOffice [1].

The auto-updater mechanism includes an optional custom url, which
LibreOffice will then open on restart after the upgrade. Perhaps worth
pondering how to make use of that for good effect, given the above?

Note that we assume that a lot of in particular Windows users are
running older LibreOffice versions, with some reticence to
update. Making the upgrade automatic, and showing a custom donation
page, might therefore already show a measurable effect.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/24.2#Core_/_General
and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Online_Update

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Reflections On Today's Meeting

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Nigel,

On 15/01/2024 23:52, nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote:


Thanks for organising this evening's meeting. It was good to put faces to some 
of the names I see on the mailing list. I hope these will become regular 
events. Some very good points were raised...


Thanks a lot for joining the call! And indeed everyone else who was 
present. It was great to see many new faces, and get lots of ideas and 
feedback :-)



I was interested in Mike Saunders' point that a lot of donations are raised 
from the download page on the website. This suggests to me that these donations 
are from individuals installing the software for their own use - whether that 
be personal or related to their work or business.


Yes, and we suspect (and have done some research) that a big chunk of 
those donations-while-downloading are from users who've been using 
LibreOffice for a while, and are downloading an update. (After all, 
someone trying LibreOffice for the very first time is unlikely to 
donate, before knowing if they want to continue using it.)



Where LibreOffice is being rolled out across an organisation, it is likely that 
it is only downloaded once with the installation files then being re-used or 
copied multiple times. The message on the website proposing a donation will 
hardly be seen by anybody in that organisation. There was a suggestion to 
display a dialog on first use in which the case for making a donation could be 
made. I would support this. It means that every user would see it. Of course in 
an organisation it is unlikely that many users would make a donation 
themselves, but there would at least be the chance that the question is raised 
by some more technically aware users.


We have the donate bar (which appears six months after installation). 
When larger organisations and companies use LibreOffice, we strongly 
recommend them to get it from the ecosystem, to get extended support 
options and other benefits. That in turn helps to fund LibreOffice 
developers in those ecosystem companies, which improves the software for 
all users.


So yes, donations to TDF from organisations and companies are always 
welcome, but there are other ways for larger deployments to support us, 
as mentioned above.



Over the last 4 or 5 years, Mike has sent me 3 batches of flyers and other 
promotional material for me to distribute. I have indeed left copies, with 
permission, in business parks, high schools, the local university campus, 
libraries, the town hall and various other places with a large potential 
audience. There is no way of knowing whether my efforts have resulted in a 
large numbers of new users at least trying LO, or whether it has been a 
complete waste of time.


Thanks so much for distributing those flyers and spreading the word. If 
you ever need any more, just let me know, and we'll get them printed and 
sent to you.


Yes, it's hard to directly measure the effects of such activities, 
although we can potentially do more with custom links, QR codes etc. But 
it's ultimately "word of mouth" marketing.



If we were to have a "first use" dialog, prompting for donations, then we could 
also ask the user about the source of their decision to install LO e.g flyers, magazine 
or website article, recommendation from a friend or colleague, organisational policy, 
etc, etc.


Finding out where users discovered LibreOffice would indeed be useful in 
our marketing, but I'd be reticent to push for donations directly after 
installation. Most people will want to try it out and spend some time 
with it before thinking about donating, and prompting users for a 
donation before they've even started to use the app properly could 
generate negative feelings from the start.


But of course, that's just how I see it. What do others think? How else 
could we try to determine the source of users' decisions to install LO, 
as Nigel describes?



We are lucky that LO enables switching between a "ribbon" interface and "classic" 
interface.  It is entirely possible that at some point we may see a gradual transition back towards a 
hierarchical menu system in Office 365, even if it manifests itself somewhat differently. For that reason I 
would caution against abandoning the classic menu option for the sake of "modernity".


AFAIK there are no plans in the Design community to drop the classic 
menu+toolbar user interface. There has been some discussion about using 
the tabbed NotebookBar as the default on new, fresh installations, which 
I'd be in favour of if the NotebookBar is 100% ready for everyone. But I 
believe it still needs some work in a few areas (eg accessibility).



The UK government decided in 2014 that open document formats would become the 
new public sector standard.  Almost a decade later, working at times closely 
with government agencies, I have yet to see or receive one single document in 
an open format.


If you've got an example of this (not something personally sent to you, 
but documents on the 

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] How to increase donations for LibreOffice

[Clocked Modular]

Very informative. Thank you.
Maybe it is good to publish an annual finicial report on the website?

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Op wo 17 jan 2024 om 17:11 schreef Gorjan Lakaliski <
gorjanlakali...@gmail.com>:

> We should start with Cost-volume-profit analysis. With Cost-volume-profit
> analysis, we can determine how many donations we need for LibreOffice to
> breakeven and how many donations we need to reach a target donation amount.
>
> We start by dividing costs by fixed and variable costs:
>
> LibreOffice Fixed Costs 2022:
>
> Legal Advice $50,736.31
> Infrastructure, Hosting, VMs, Cloud, Domains $59,082.43
> Insurances, Fees $4,640.58
> Accounting, Tax and Legal Advice $33,992.64
> Fees for Banking and Money Transfer $67,319.98
> Running Costs, Fees, Contributions $31,210.62
> Depreciation/Investments $2,796.22
> Total Fixed Costs $239,988.11
>
> LibreOffice Variable Costs 2022:
>
> Developer Conference $56,454.94
> Marketing/Community Projects $20,363.67
> Student Project $11,871.93
> Promotion of Projects and Organizations $4,064.41
> Test Procedures for Quality Assurance $12,943.99
> Improved Implementation of Complete Character Sets $12,519.91
> Implementation of SmartArt $48,054.55
> Cost Employees/Freelancers $674,898.44
> Total Project Costs $217,009.71
> Total Other Expenses $196,246.25
> Total Variable Costs $1,253,339.30
>
>
> Formulas for Breakeven:
>
>  Number of One Time Donations  = Total Costs / One Time Donation
>  Number of Monthly Donations = Total Costs / (Monthly Donation * 12)
>  Number of Quarterly Donations = Total Costs / (Quarterly Donation * 4)
>  Number of Yearly Donations = Total Costs / Yearly Donation
>
> Given the default donation options on LibreOffice's donation form:
>
> One time donation $29.00
> Monthly donation $5.00
> Quarterly donation $15.00
> Yearly donation $39.00
>
> To breakeven, we need
> 51494 donations to breakeven with a one time donation of $29.
> 24889 donations to breakeven with monthly donations of $5.
> 24889 donations to breakeven with quarterly donations of $15.
> 38290 donations to breakeven with yearly donations of $39.
>
> With Cost-Volume-Profit Analysis, we can determine how many donations we
> need to reach a target donation amount.
>
> We need to determine our Variable cost per unit. Variable cost per unit =
> Total Variable Costs/Total Number of Donations. We can use historical data
> to determine total number of donations. Or we can also use What if
> Analysis, such as Goal Seek.
>
> We need to determine how much a given donation can cover LibreOffice's
> fixed costs with Contribution Margin per Unit. Once the fixed costs are
> covered, any additional contribution margin increases income for brand
> awareness.
>
> Contribution Margin per Unit = Donation Amount − Variable Cost per Unit
>
> Next, we can determine the BreakEven Volume =  Total Fixed
> Costs/Contribution Margin per Unit.
>
> Last but not least, we determine our Target Donation Volume or the amount
> of donations we need to collect to reach our Target Donation Amount. Target
> Donation Volume = Total Fixed Costs + Target Profit /
> Contribution Margin per Unit.
>
> LibreOffice's Donation is a combination of the Pay What You Want Pricing
> Model and Pay What You Can.
>
> 3 Ways We Can Increase Donations
>
> We can ask users for a donation after users have downloaded and used
> LibreOffice. It reduces buyer remorse that can occur from asking a payment
> before using a piece of software.
>
> What we can learn from research studies
>
> "Another PWYW (Pay What You Want Pricing Model) experiment looked at
> determinants for the price chosen by consumers of the application iProduct,
> which provided tutorials and lessons for potential application developers
> on the App Store (iOS). The application was offered as free with in-app
> purchases, including a gratuity mechanism that allowed users to 

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] How to increase donations for LibreOffice

[Sam Tuke]

Bravo

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] unsecured URL in BING search for Libreoffice Marketing Material

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I've just tested the link with Firefox. It displays a warning of a security 
risk but allows you to proceed if you are determined to do so. This normally 
happens with a non-encrypted connection (http://) but in this case the error is 
that the certificate is valid for openoffice.org but not libreoffice.

The page may actually be safe in terms of its contents, but there may be 
nothing we can do about it other than be aware of its existence. Perhaps the 
page could be downloaded into a VM using wget, thereby bypassing any browser, 
to see what it really contains.

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From: Harry Silverlion 
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To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] unsecured URL in BING search for Libreoffice 
Marketing Material

To whome it may concern:

Good evening,

after yesterdays meeting I was looking into current / old marketing
materials in regards of Libreoffice Marketing.

A quick search brought
https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.libreoffice.openoffice.org%2Fde%2Fmarketing%2F=05%7C02%7C%7Ccf784e4bdb044f2cb05508dc16bf5edf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638410258374776084%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=vruAw5PfJCOZC820XzPSUn4AcGrkT2GDxDaHlLT1HiU%3D=0
 to my attention.
The problem here: this site normally should not work in any brother as
there is no SSL encryption so my browser does not allow me to continue.
Looking at the URL itself it seems like an old page that we need to have
on our radar because some users (maybe less experienced then me) would
consider this an actual page of ours.

Any thoughts are appreciated :-)

Regards,

Harry


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] unsecured URL in BING search for Libreoffice Marketing Material

[DaveB]

On 16/01/2024 18:16, Harry Silverlion wrote:

To whome it may concern:

Good evening,

after yesterdays meeting I was looking into current / old marketing 
materials in regards of Libreoffice Marketing.


A quick search brought 
https://www.libreoffice.openoffice.org/de/marketing/ to my attention. 
The problem here: this site normally should not work in any brother as 
there is no SSL encryption so my browser does not allow me to continue. 
Looking at the URL itself it seems like an old page that we need to have 
on our radar because some users (maybe less experienced then me) would 
consider this an actual page of ours.


Any thoughts are appreciated :-)

Regards,

Harry


That page doesn't concern LibreOffice, it is owned and controlled by 
Apache OpenOffice, part of ASF the (Apache Software Foundation). If you 
wish to bring it to the attention of the folks at Apache OpenOffice 
contact: d...@openoffice.apache.org



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Call January 2024

[Don Lupo]

Hi, Sully. It looks like it is Berlin time. Looking forward to meeting everyone 
on the call (I'm new).
https://24timezones.com/difference/new_york/berlin




On Monday, January 8th, 2024 at 07:01, Sully Sullivan  
wrote:


> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> Excuse my ignorance. I'm outside Washington, DC on North American Eastern 
> Time. It's unclear to me whether the hours on the Framadate poll are GMT, or 
> Central European Time, or something else. Please advise and I'll plug in my 
> availability. I'd like to join if it is possible.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sully
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sully Sullivan
> 
> 
> Principal
> 
> 
> 
> Knowlegiate, LLC
> 
> 401 N Washington St, Suite 500
> 
> Rockville, Maryland 20850-1789
> 
> United States
> 
> 
> 
> +1 (301) 348-8800 Main Office
> 
> +1 (646) 480-0404 New York
> 
> +1 (301) 825-8485 Fa
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 06:58:57 -0500 Italo Vignoli it...@libreoffice.org 
> wrote ---
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As promised, although later than expected for a number of reasons (both
> private and project related), we will have a LibreOffice Marketing Call
> in January 2024. Hopefully, this will be the first of a regular monthly
> call to discuss marketing activities for LibreOffice.
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> 
> https://framadate.org/Q9dfomBbPAShMf1p
> 
> Please fill in your availability as soon as possible. If the monthly
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> on a monthly basis, without the need of a poll for each call.
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Call January 2024

[Italo Vignoli]

Times are based on Central European Time (Berlin). Apologies, I was 
assuming that Framadate would show the time in the appropriate time zone 
for each person.


On 08/01/24 16:01, Sully Sullivan wrote:

Hi,

Excuse my ignorance. I'm outside Washington, DC on  North American 
Eastern Time. It's unclear to me whether the hours on the Framadate 
poll are GMT, or Central European Time, or something else. Please 
advise and I'll plug in my availability. I'd like to join if it is 
possible.


Best,
Sully




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United States

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 On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 06:58:57 -0500 *Italo Vignoli 
* wrote ---


As promised, although later than expected for a number of reasons
(both
private and project related), we will have a LibreOffice Marketing
Call
in January 2024. Hopefully, this will be the first of a regular
monthly
call to discuss marketing activities for LibreOffice.

In the past, we stopped these calls as volunteers were not attending
them, and at the end the call was just a duplication of our weekly
team
calls. This time, we hope to get more participants on a regular
basis,
and to have productive and constructive meetings.

To set the time for this January 2024 call, I have created a
Framadate
poll at the following address:

https://framadate.org/Q9dfomBbPAShMf1p

Please fill in your availability as soon as possible. If the monthly
calls will be confirmed, we will decide for a convenient date and
time
on a monthly basis, without the need of a poll for each call.

Best regards, Italo



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[Sully Sullivan]

Hi,



Excuse my ignorance. I'm outside Washington, DC on  North American Eastern 
Time. It's unclear to me whether the hours on the Framadate poll are GMT, or 
Central European Time, or something else. Please advise and I'll plug in my 
availability. I'd like to join if it is possible.



Best,

Sully









Sully Sullivan


Principal



Knowlegiate, LLC

401 N Washington St, Suite 500

Rockville, Maryland 20850-1789

United States



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 On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 06:58:57 -0500 Italo Vignoli  
wrote ---



As promised, although later than expected for a number of reasons (both 
private and project related), we will have a LibreOffice Marketing Call 
in January 2024. Hopefully, this will be the first of a regular monthly 
call to discuss marketing activities for LibreOffice.

In the past, we stopped these calls as volunteers were not attending 
them, and at the end the call was just a duplication of our weekly team 
calls. This time, we hope to get more participants on a regular basis, 
and to have productive and constructive meetings.

To set the time for this January 2024 call, I have created a Framadate 
poll at the following address:

https://framadate.org/Q9dfomBbPAShMf1p

Please fill in your availability as soon as possible. If the monthly 
calls will be confirmed, we will decide for a convenient date and time 
on a monthly basis, without the need of a poll for each call.

Best regards, Italo

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

Thanks to Cloph, Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Simon, Nigel, Thorsten, 
Daniel and Osvaldo for the feedback and ideas!


Beer/coffee mats as mentioned by Thorsten sound like a good idea, and 
maybe we can print some of the the LibreOffice "tips of the day" on 
them, or a table of useful keyboard shortcuts.


I'll also look into a supplier for cupcakes, as mentioned by Simon and 
Nigel, and microfiber cloths as Cloph described...


Cheers,
Mike



On 19.12.23 10:51, Mike Saunders wrote:

Hi everyone,

FOSDEM is coming up, and as it's the biggest event around free and open 
source software in Europe, we're always there with a stand. In recent 
years, we've brought various types of merchandise including:


* T-shirts
* Stickers
* Flyers
* Pens (made of recycled cardboard and corn plastic)
* Candies

In the last couple of years, we've brought flyers listing different ways 
to get involved in LibreOffice. And because the pens are very popular, 
we tell people: you can only get a pen if you also underline on the 
flyer, one way you're going to contribute to the LibreOffice project :-)


So it's a bit of fun, and people take home a reminder that they can 
contribute. But what else can we offer on our stand? For instance:


* Badges
* Toys (VLC had a mini Lego-like toy for their logo once)
* Beer/coffee mats
* Other clothing items
* ...

Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable, 
transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas :-)




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Jean-Francois Nifenecker]

Hi,

sticky notes with the logo ?

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Le 19/12/2023 à 10:51, Mike Saunders a écrit :

Hi everyone,

FOSDEM is coming up, and as it's the biggest event around free and open 
source software in Europe, we're always there with a stand. In recent 
years, we've brought various types of merchandise including:


* T-shirts
* Stickers
* Flyers
* Pens (made of recycled cardboard and corn plastic)
* Candies

In the last couple of years, we've brought flyers listing different ways 
to get involved in LibreOffice. And because the pens are very popular, 
we tell people: you can only get a pen if you also underline on the 
flyer, one way you're going to contribute to the LibreOffice project :-)


So it's a bit of fun, and people take home a reminder that they can 
contribute. But what else can we offer on our stand? For instance:


* Badges
* Toys (VLC had a mini Lego-like toy for their logo once)
* Beer/coffee mats
* Other clothing items
* ...

Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable, 
transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas :-)





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 10:52 AM Mike Saunders
 wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> […]
> So it's a bit of fun, and people take home a reminder that they can
> contribute. But what else can we offer on our stand? For instance:

* (rain) covers for bicycle seats
* microfiber cloth to clean your screen or glasses.

And not sure about environmental friendly, but I really like the
mini-sprayers to be used with hand-sanitizer or just plain water in
the hotter season or cleaning solution for your screen,...

also was thinking about custom guitar picks in the past, but e.g.
jimdunlop only offers custom designs for personal use/explicitly tells
not for reselling - and of course pretty personal choice to begin
with...

logistically difficult are tissue packs (but might be viable for special events)

Also useful are shopping-cart coins (well, no idea how common that is
in other countries)

microfiber cleaning cloths should be pretty easy & generally useful no
matter the season.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

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Hi Mike

I would never turn down a cupcake. In principle they are a great idea for 
getting people to the stand. However, after you have filled you face with one 
(or more) cupcakes you still need to take away something with a more enduring 
reminder of LibreOffice than crumbs down the front of your T-shirt or icing in 
your beard. You would still need pens or other swag in addition to the expense 
of the cakes.

My heart says cupcakes, but unfortunately my head says beermats!

All the best

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From: Simon Phipps 
Sent: 19 December 2023 12:57
To: Mike Saunders 
Cc: Marketing list 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM 
(and other events)

Hi Mike!



On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:52 AM Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

>
> Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable,
> transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas :-)
>

We have had good responses to custom cupcakes at events around the world
this year - they have the advantage of being locally sourced so you don't
have to travel with them!  I've not ordered any for Brussels events so
don't have a recommendation based on experience, but this supplier has been
tempting me (especially the mini cupcakes):
https://www.lilicup.be/en/events

Cheers

Simon

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Osvaldo Gervasi]

Hi Mike,

 what about caps? Something similar to 
https://yeslogo.eu/en/caps/20-one-color-custom-made-classic-premium-quality-caps-with-your-own-logo-s.html


Cheers,

--Osvaldo

On 19/12/23 10:51, Mike Saunders wrote:

Hi everyone,

FOSDEM is coming up, and as it's the biggest event around free and 
open source software in Europe, we're always there with a stand. In 
recent years, we've brought various types of merchandise including:


* T-shirts
* Stickers
* Flyers
* Pens (made of recycled cardboard and corn plastic)
* Candies

In the last couple of years, we've brought flyers listing different 
ways to get involved in LibreOffice. And because the pens are very 
popular, we tell people: you can only get a pen if you also underline 
on the flyer, one way you're going to contribute to the LibreOffice 
project :-)


So it's a bit of fun, and people take home a reminder that they can 
contribute. But what else can we offer on our stand? For instance:


* Badges
* Toys (VLC had a mini Lego-like toy for their logo once)
* Beer/coffee mats
* Other clothing items
* ...

Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable, 
transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas :-)




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Daniel A. Rodriguez]

What about reusable bags?

El 19 de diciembre de 2023 06:51:43 ART, Mike Saunders 
 escribió:
>Hi everyone,
>
>FOSDEM is coming up, and as it's the biggest event around free and open source 
>software in Europe, we're always there with a stand. In recent years, we've 
>brought various types of merchandise including:
>
>* T-shirts
>* Stickers
>* Flyers
>* Pens (made of recycled cardboard and corn plastic)
>* Candies
>
>In the last couple of years, we've brought flyers listing different ways to 
>get involved in LibreOffice. And because the pens are very popular, we tell 
>people: you can only get a pen if you also underline on the flyer, one way 
>you're going to contribute to the LibreOffice project :-)
>
>So it's a bit of fun, and people take home a reminder that they can 
>contribute. But what else can we offer on our stand? For instance:
>
>* Badges
>* Toys (VLC had a mini Lego-like toy for their logo once)
>* Beer/coffee mats
>* Other clothing items
>* ...
>
>Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable, transportable 
>and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas :-)
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Simon Phipps]

Hi Mike!



On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:52 AM Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

>
> Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable,
> transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas :-)
>

We have had good responses to custom cupcakes at events around the world
this year - they have the advantage of being locally sourced so you don't
have to travel with them!  I've not ordered any for Brussels events so
don't have a recommendation based on experience, but this supplier has been
tempting me (especially the mini cupcakes):
https://www.lilicup.be/en/events

Cheers

Simon

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandise ideas for FOSDEM (and other events)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Mike Saunders wrote:
> Of course, whatever we produce and bring has to be affordable,
> transportable and environmentally friendly. Let us know your ideas
> :-)
>
Beer/coffee mats are great, affordable & usually made from recycled
paper, so that fits the bill.

I had some company-branded chocolate at the conference, which proved
to be a bit of a hit - with Belgium being somewhat of the world's hub
for fine chocolate, perhaps that fits the bill (and could be sourced
locally)?

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[John Mills]

Hi all,
The Excel championship finished yesterday so it's better to issue this soon to 
jump on any marketing the competition had.
'You didn't just succeed — you Exceled': Sydney man wins Microsoft Excel World 
Championship for third straight year  
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   |

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'You didn't just succeed — you Exceled': Sydney man wins Microsoft Excel World 
Championship for third straight year
 
An actuary nicknamed The Annihilator claims a cash prize, trophy, champion's 
belt and esports glory.
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Cheers,
John

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  On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 5:15 pm, Marc Paré wrote:   Le 
2023-12-12 à 07 h 28, John Mills a écrit :
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>  
>    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 at 11:14 am, Mike 
>Saunders wrote:  Hi all,
>
> Thanks for your feedback! I worked on an updated plan last week, taking
> into account the suggestions here from John, Marc, Cor and Susanne. It's
> a good idea to focus on a single component first, and see how it goes.
> Let me know what you think; we could launch this in January:
>
>
>
> LibreOffice Calc World Championship - Show us your skills!
>
> Millions of people around the world use LibreOffice every day, in
> various ways. Some are doing work in businesses and organisations,
> others handling their documents and finances at home. Everyone has a
> different workflow, and we know that many great things are being
> achieved with the suite.
>
> And we want to see them! Today we're launching the LibreOffice Calc
> World Championship, to see what you're doing with the spreadsheet
> component of the suite. You can send us files and/or screenshots of ways
> you're pushing Calc to the limits, in these categories:
>
> * Handling huge amounts of data
>
> * Automating complex operations with macros
>
> * Making data look beautiful
>
> If you're using Calc in one of these ways, and want to show the world,
> let us know! We're accepting submissions until MONTH XX, and winners
> will get their choice of LibreOffice merchandise (stickers, T-shirts,
> hoodies, mugs and more). Click the link below to send your submission
> (but of course, please don't send any screenshots or files that include
> copyrighted content).
>
> Click here to submit
>
+1

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[Marc Paré]

Le 2023-12-12 à 07 h 28, John Mills a écrit :

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
  
   On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 at 11:14 am, Mike Saunders wrote:   Hi all,


Thanks for your feedback! I worked on an updated plan last week, taking
into account the suggestions here from John, Marc, Cor and Susanne. It's
a good idea to focus on a single component first, and see how it goes.
Let me know what you think; we could launch this in January:



LibreOffice Calc World Championship - Show us your skills!

Millions of people around the world use LibreOffice every day, in
various ways. Some are doing work in businesses and organisations,
others handling their documents and finances at home. Everyone has a
different workflow, and we know that many great things are being
achieved with the suite.

And we want to see them! Today we're launching the LibreOffice Calc
World Championship, to see what you're doing with the spreadsheet
component of the suite. You can send us files and/or screenshots of ways
you're pushing Calc to the limits, in these categories:

* Handling huge amounts of data

* Automating complex operations with macros

* Making data look beautiful

If you're using Calc in one of these ways, and want to show the world,
let us know! We're accepting submissions until MONTH XX, and winners
will get their choice of LibreOffice merchandise (stickers, T-shirts,
hoodies, mugs and more). Click the link below to send your submission
(but of course, please don't send any screenshots or files that include
copyrighted content).

Click here to submit


+1

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[John Mills]

That sounds really positive Mike.
Kind regards,
John

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  On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 at 11:14 am, Mike 
Saunders wrote:   Hi all,

Thanks for your feedback! I worked on an updated plan last week, taking 
into account the suggestions here from John, Marc, Cor and Susanne. It's 
a good idea to focus on a single component first, and see how it goes. 
Let me know what you think; we could launch this in January:



LibreOffice Calc World Championship - Show us your skills!

Millions of people around the world use LibreOffice every day, in 
various ways. Some are doing work in businesses and organisations, 
others handling their documents and finances at home. Everyone has a 
different workflow, and we know that many great things are being 
achieved with the suite.

And we want to see them! Today we're launching the LibreOffice Calc 
World Championship, to see what you're doing with the spreadsheet 
component of the suite. You can send us files and/or screenshots of ways 
you're pushing Calc to the limits, in these categories:

* Handling huge amounts of data

* Automating complex operations with macros

* Making data look beautiful

If you're using Calc in one of these ways, and want to show the world, 
let us know! We're accepting submissions until MONTH XX, and winners 
will get their choice of LibreOffice merchandise (stickers, T-shirts, 
hoodies, mugs and more). Click the link below to send your submission 
(but of course, please don't send any screenshots or files that include 
copyrighted content).

Click here to submit

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi all,

Thanks for your feedback! I worked on an updated plan last week, taking 
into account the suggestions here from John, Marc, Cor and Susanne. It's 
a good idea to focus on a single component first, and see how it goes. 
Let me know what you think; we could launch this in January:




LibreOffice Calc World Championship - Show us your skills!

Millions of people around the world use LibreOffice every day, in 
various ways. Some are doing work in businesses and organisations, 
others handling their documents and finances at home. Everyone has a 
different workflow, and we know that many great things are being 
achieved with the suite.


And we want to see them! Today we're launching the LibreOffice Calc 
World Championship, to see what you're doing with the spreadsheet 
component of the suite. You can send us files and/or screenshots of ways 
you're pushing Calc to the limits, in these categories:


* Handling huge amounts of data

* Automating complex operations with macros

* Making data look beautiful

If you're using Calc in one of these ways, and want to show the world, 
let us know! We're accepting submissions until MONTH XX, and winners 
will get their choice of LibreOffice merchandise (stickers, T-shirts, 
hoodies, mugs and more). Click the link below to send your submission 
(but of course, please don't send any screenshots or files that include 
copyrighted content).


Click here to submit

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mention of LibreOffice on Braxman Blog

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 26/11/2023 18:17:

FYI, a good thumbs up for the use of LibreOffice on the Rob Braxman Tech 
blog.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnXZKphq-XM


Thanks for sharing :)
Straight forward and clear. Also shared on twiXer ;)
   robbraxmantech/status/1727371363302965737

Cheers,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[Marc Paré]

I would suggest to avoid any competition where there is a possibility of 
one user's solution being publicly "challenged" by a more adept user. 
There could be suggestions to improve a submission, however, one user's 
knowledge/ability may be quite different from another. We should avoid 
anything that would come close to "shaming" a submitter.


Also, keep in mind that someone's workflow may be the impetus as to why 
the process of their submission may be the reason for which they are 
suggesting in their submission.


As a good example of such a competition is the Canadian Geographic 
Magazine yearly photography competition where for this year they got 
over 14,000 submissions and chose but a few winners. However, there is a 
lot of positive talk of their competition submitters from the organizers 
[https://canadiangeographic.ca/articles/announcing-the-winners-of-the-2023-canadian-wildlife-photography-of-the-year-competition/]. 



Marc

Le 2023-11-24 à 11 h 49, John Mills a écrit :

I agree with Cor, you want to be more specific, you could have activities for 
each module. Also it could turn out to be a training opportunity if the 
submitter is so kind.
I'd probably start with Calc and go from that point. Make it specific and people could 
try an "one up" each other.
An actual competition like Excel could even be a possibility if there is a lot 
of interest.
Thanks,
John

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Thanks - some first response:

Mike Saunders wrote on 21/11/2023 10:03:


So to follow up on this, here's a draft for the blog -- let me know what
you think! And more ideas for the "For instance" part would be welcome :-)


LibreOffice World Championship - Show us your skills!

You don't want to try with one module (at a time)?


200 million people around the world use LibreOffice to get their work
done. Some are in businesses, some are in governments, and some are at
home. Everyone has a different workflow, and we know that many great
things are being achieved with the suite.

Great things could be maybe more specified to 'wonderful productive
office work' or.. something less verbose ;)


And we want to see them! If you've done something awesome with
LibreOffice that you'd like to show off, you can submit screenshots (or
a video) to the LibreOffice World Championship. For instance:

We want to have real achievements.. so others should be able to
reproduce the submitted stuff. Thus it may be needed to ask sample files
or similar?


* Using macros to massively automate work in a spreadsheet or text document

* Applying funky physics effects in a presentation

* ...

(will come up with some later)


Let us know what you're doing, and we'll collect the best examples and
showcase them here. Winners will get a cool LibreOffice sticker pack!

and a hoody and a mug.. ?


The deadline to submit is XX. (And, of course, please don't send any
screenshots or video that include copyright or sensitive content.)

Click here to submit

Nice - thanks,
Cor





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[John Mills]

Hi all,
I believe my previous message has been bounced, this happens quite often now. I 
think there are issues with this distribution list.
Cheers,
John
###

I agree with Cor, you want to be more specific, you could have activities for 
each module. Also it could turn out to be a training opportunity if the 
submitter is so kind.
I'd probably start with Calc and go from that point. Make it specific and 
people could try an "one up" each other.
An actual competition like Excel could even be a possibility if there is a lot 
of interest.
Thanks,
John
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 4:49 pm, John Mills wrote:   I 
agree with Cor, you want to be more specific, you could have activities for 
each module. Also it could turn out to be a training opportunity if the 
submitter is so kind.
I'd probably start with Calc and go from that point. Make it specific and 
people could try an "one up" each other.
An actual competition like Excel could even be a possibility if there is a lot 
of interest.
Thanks,
John

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  On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 3:26 pm, Cor Nouws wrote:   Hi Mike,

Thanks - some first response:

Mike Saunders wrote on 21/11/2023 10:03:

> So to follow up on this, here's a draft for the blog -- let me know what 
> you think! And more ideas for the "For instance" part would be welcome :-)
> 
> 
> LibreOffice World Championship - Show us your skills!

You don't want to try with one module (at a time)?

> 200 million people around the world use LibreOffice to get their work 
> done. Some are in businesses, some are in governments, and some are at 
> home. Everyone has a different workflow, and we know that many great 
> things are being achieved with the suite.

Great things could be maybe more specified to 'wonderful productive 
office work' or.. something less verbose ;)

> And we want to see them! If you've done something awesome with 
> LibreOffice that you'd like to show off, you can submit screenshots (or 
> a video) to the LibreOffice World Championship. For instance:

We want to have real achievements.. so others should be able to 
reproduce the submitted stuff. Thus it may be needed to ask sample files 
or similar?

> 
> * Using macros to massively automate work in a spreadsheet or text document
> 
> * Applying funky physics effects in a presentation
> 
> * ...

(will come up with some later)

> Let us know what you're doing, and we'll collect the best examples and 
> showcase them here. Winners will get a cool LibreOffice sticker pack! 

and a hoody and a mug.. ?

> The deadline to submit is XX. (And, of course, please don't send any 
> screenshots or video that include copyright or sensitive content.)
> 
> Click here to submit

Nice - thanks,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[John Mills]

I agree with Cor, you want to be more specific, you could have activities for 
each module. Also it could turn out to be a training opportunity if the 
submitter is so kind.
I'd probably start with Calc and go from that point. Make it specific and 
people could try an "one up" each other.
An actual competition like Excel could even be a possibility if there is a lot 
of interest.
Thanks,
John

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  On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 3:26 pm, Cor Nouws wrote:   Hi Mike,

Thanks - some first response:

Mike Saunders wrote on 21/11/2023 10:03:

> So to follow up on this, here's a draft for the blog -- let me know what 
> you think! And more ideas for the "For instance" part would be welcome :-)
> 
> 
> LibreOffice World Championship - Show us your skills!

You don't want to try with one module (at a time)?

> 200 million people around the world use LibreOffice to get their work 
> done. Some are in businesses, some are in governments, and some are at 
> home. Everyone has a different workflow, and we know that many great 
> things are being achieved with the suite.

Great things could be maybe more specified to 'wonderful productive 
office work' or.. something less verbose ;)

> And we want to see them! If you've done something awesome with 
> LibreOffice that you'd like to show off, you can submit screenshots (or 
> a video) to the LibreOffice World Championship. For instance:

We want to have real achievements.. so others should be able to 
reproduce the submitted stuff. Thus it may be needed to ask sample files 
or similar?

> 
> * Using macros to massively automate work in a spreadsheet or text document
> 
> * Applying funky physics effects in a presentation
> 
> * ...

(will come up with some later)

> Let us know what you're doing, and we'll collect the best examples and 
> showcase them here. Winners will get a cool LibreOffice sticker pack! 

and a hoody and a mug.. ?

> The deadline to submit is XX. (And, of course, please don't send any 
> screenshots or video that include copyright or sensitive content.)
> 
> Click here to submit

Nice - thanks,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Mike,

Thanks - some first response:

Mike Saunders wrote on 21/11/2023 10:03:

So to follow up on this, here's a draft for the blog -- let me know what 
you think! And more ideas for the "For instance" part would be welcome :-)



LibreOffice World Championship - Show us your skills!


You don't want to try with one module (at a time)?

200 million people around the world use LibreOffice to get their work 
done. Some are in businesses, some are in governments, and some are at 
home. Everyone has a different workflow, and we know that many great 
things are being achieved with the suite.


Great things could be maybe more specified to 'wonderful productive 
office work' or.. something less verbose ;)


And we want to see them! If you've done something awesome with 
LibreOffice that you'd like to show off, you can submit screenshots (or 
a video) to the LibreOffice World Championship. For instance:


We want to have real achievements.. so others should be able to 
reproduce the submitted stuff. Thus it may be needed to ask sample files 
or similar?




* Using macros to massively automate work in a spreadsheet or text document

* Applying funky physics effects in a presentation

* ...


(will come up with some later)

Let us know what you're doing, and we'll collect the best examples and 
showcase them here. Winners will get a cool LibreOffice sticker pack! 


and a hoody and a mug.. ?

The deadline to submit is XX. (And, of course, please don't send any 
screenshots or video that include copyright or sensitive content.)


Click here to submit


Nice - thanks,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Marc,

On 22.11.23 10:10, Marc Paré wrote:


Seems all OK to me. I do not object to the "For instance" as it suits 
with the casual language of the message. Also, IMO, I think "For 
instance" meaning is well documented and easily translatable.


Thanks for the feedback! In the "for instance" part, I was thinking of 
more examples that we can give to people, for cool/imaginative things 
they can do in LibreOffice, to show off. Macros are perhaps the most 
notable thing, of course...


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[Marc Paré]

Hi Mike,

Seems all OK to me. I do not object to the "For instance" as it suits 
with the casual language of the message. Also, IMO, I think "For 
instance" meaning is well documented and easily translatable.


Marc

Le 2023-11-21 à 04 h 03, Mike Saunders a écrit :

Hi all,

So to follow up on this, here's a draft for the blog -- let me know 
what you think! And more ideas for the "For instance" part would be 
welcome :-)



LibreOffice World Championship - Show us your skills!

200 million people around the world use LibreOffice to get their work 
done. Some are in businesses, some are in governments, and some are at 
home. Everyone has a different workflow, and we know that many great 
things are being achieved with the suite.


And we want to see them! If you've done something awesome with 
LibreOffice that you'd like to show off, you can submit screenshots 
(or a video) to the LibreOffice World Championship. For instance:


* Using macros to massively automate work in a spreadsheet or text 
document


* Applying funky physics effects in a presentation

* ...

Let us know what you're doing, and we'll collect the best examples and 
showcase them here. Winners will get a cool LibreOffice sticker pack! 
The deadline to submit is XX. (And, of course, please don't send 
any screenshots or video that include copyright or sensitive content.)


Click here to submit





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi all,

So to follow up on this, here's a draft for the blog -- let me know what 
you think! And more ideas for the "For instance" part would be welcome :-)



LibreOffice World Championship - Show us your skills!

200 million people around the world use LibreOffice to get their work 
done. Some are in businesses, some are in governments, and some are at 
home. Everyone has a different workflow, and we know that many great 
things are being achieved with the suite.


And we want to see them! If you've done something awesome with 
LibreOffice that you'd like to show off, you can submit screenshots (or 
a video) to the LibreOffice World Championship. For instance:


* Using macros to massively automate work in a spreadsheet or text document

* Applying funky physics effects in a presentation

* ...

Let us know what you're doing, and we'll collect the best examples and 
showcase them here. Winners will get a cool LibreOffice sticker pack! 
The deadline to submit is XX. (And, of course, please don't send any 
screenshots or video that include copyright or sensitive content.)


Click here to submit


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[András Rigler]

Hi Delta,
I would now really love to see those images. Is it possible that you share
a link with all of us?
Cheers,
András

Delta Whiskey  ezt írta (időpont: 2023. nov. 20.,
Hét 8:27):

> Those examples are great and for the younger generation they will
> definitely catch the eye.
> Well if there is a need my pictures are there just shout.
>
> Have a great day guys and keep up the great work you are doing. I would
> love to see Linux dominate windows.
>
> Kind regards
> Dave
>
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 14:58, Sahil Gautam 
> wrote:
>
> > The pictures are good, no doubt about that. But they don't fit the
> purpose
> > I proposed. I meant that there is literally no wallpaper
> > out there which is related to libreoffice/TDF, and is usable. For example
> > take a look at
> >
> https://www.wallpaperflare.com/do-it-yourself-logo-gnu-debian-linux-text-communication-wallpaper-ppizg
> > . It's eye friendly + in our case it could be something like the LO logo
> > and the tagline as "Beyond a software" or something like that. To add
> spice
> > to it,
> >
> >
> https://www.wallpaperflare.com/apple-logo-linux-gnu-debian-sky-cloud-sky-nature-flying-wallpaper-phdmt
> >
> > wallpapers like this one would be great.
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/eternal-rivalry-between-emacs-vi-vim-brian-katuu/
> > https://x.com/Koral_001/status/1026174143513997312?s=20
> > https://www.monkeyuser.com/2017/vim-vs-emacs/
> >
> >
> https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_14.jpeg
> >
> >
> https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_10.jpg
> > etc.
> >
> > These make people talk about the cause. Plus these are funny as well. If
> > they were in some standard resolution, and reasonable background color,
> Why
> > wouldn't someone put them on their desktop (When they know that we the
> > community need a lot
> > of hands to make it work).
> >
> > Like this happened to me. Was a normal guy, till an arch user took my
> > soul. Now I use arch btw, and take other's souls. Once the soul has been
> > taken, there is no option, either live in a dark corner forever, or use
> the
> > better tech.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 14:06, Mike Saunders <
> > mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Delta,
> >>
> >> Thanks for sharing your designs! Note that attachments aren't allowed on
> >> this mailing list, but you can upload them to an image sharing site (eg
> >> https://imgur.com) and then share the links here.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> On 17.11.23 09:30, Delta Whiskey wrote:
> >> > Morning Sahil,
> >> >
> >> > Ok attached are a few samples have a look and let me know what you
> >> think.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam  >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If
> I
> >> have
> >> >> a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has),
> >> people
> >> >> would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us
> motivated
> >> for
> >> >> not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds
> >> reasonable).
> >> >>
> >> >> *I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and
> guess
> >> what
> >> >> I found?*
> >> >> *NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that
> >> I can
> >> >> put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
> >> >> *It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some
> twitter
> >> >> invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
> >> >> Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their
> screens
> >> and
> >> >> be proud of being a part of the community.*
> >> >>
> >> >> *And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users
> >> (used in
> >> >> disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community,
> and
> >> >> this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
> >> >> *What do you think?*
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Delta Whiskey]

Those examples are great and for the younger generation they will
definitely catch the eye.
Well if there is a need my pictures are there just shout.

Have a great day guys and keep up the great work you are doing. I would
love to see Linux dominate windows.

Kind regards
Dave

On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 14:58, Sahil Gautam 
wrote:

> The pictures are good, no doubt about that. But they don't fit the purpose
> I proposed. I meant that there is literally no wallpaper
> out there which is related to libreoffice/TDF, and is usable. For example
> take a look at
> https://www.wallpaperflare.com/do-it-yourself-logo-gnu-debian-linux-text-communication-wallpaper-ppizg
> . It's eye friendly + in our case it could be something like the LO logo
> and the tagline as "Beyond a software" or something like that. To add spice
> to it,
>
> https://www.wallpaperflare.com/apple-logo-linux-gnu-debian-sky-cloud-sky-nature-flying-wallpaper-phdmt
>
> wallpapers like this one would be great.
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/eternal-rivalry-between-emacs-vi-vim-brian-katuu/
> https://x.com/Koral_001/status/1026174143513997312?s=20
> https://www.monkeyuser.com/2017/vim-vs-emacs/
>
> https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_14.jpeg
>
> https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_10.jpg
> etc.
>
> These make people talk about the cause. Plus these are funny as well. If
> they were in some standard resolution, and reasonable background color, Why
> wouldn't someone put them on their desktop (When they know that we the
> community need a lot
> of hands to make it work).
>
> Like this happened to me. Was a normal guy, till an arch user took my
> soul. Now I use arch btw, and take other's souls. Once the soul has been
> taken, there is no option, either live in a dark corner forever, or use the
> better tech.
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 14:06, Mike Saunders <
> mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Delta,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your designs! Note that attachments aren't allowed on
>> this mailing list, but you can upload them to an image sharing site (eg
>> https://imgur.com) and then share the links here.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 17.11.23 09:30, Delta Whiskey wrote:
>> > Morning Sahil,
>> >
>> > Ok attached are a few samples have a look and let me know what you
>> think.
>> >
>> > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I
>> have
>> >> a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has),
>> people
>> >> would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated
>> for
>> >> not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds
>> reasonable).
>> >>
>> >> *I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess
>> what
>> >> I found?*
>> >> *NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that
>> I can
>> >> put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
>> >> *It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
>> >> invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
>> >> Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens
>> and
>> >> be proud of being a part of the community.*
>> >>
>> >> *And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users
>> (used in
>> >> disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
>> >> this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
>> >> *What do you think?*
>> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Delta,

On 17.11.23 09:34, Delta Whiskey wrote:
>

Then the last two, see if thats something you can work with and there are
lots more.


Again, this list doesn't support attachments, so nobody can see your 
ideas (apart from Sahil, as you're also sending them directly). Please 
use an image sharing site -- we'd all love to see them :-)


Thanks!
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Marc Paré]

Could someone point us to the location as to where to view these 
examples? Attachments on this list do not work.


Thanks!

Marc

Le 2023-11-17 à 03 h 34, Delta Whiskey a écrit :

Then the last two, see if thats something you can work with and there are
lots more.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
wrote:


Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I have
a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has), people
would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated for
not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds reasonable).

*I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess what
I found?*
*NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that I can
put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
*It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens and
be proud of being a part of the community.*

*And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users (used in
disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
*What do you think?*

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Sahil Gautam]

And of course, we need a mascot. A flat logo wouldn't go that far. It's
good for application, and presentations only. IMHO.
It should become the talk of the town. Should start a rivalry. (which
already exists) But when it becomes more public --> more eyeballs --> more
devs/users. A wallpaper/ logo/mascot just to take souls, and make others
better + make us feel good as well.

Showing off good things == Good deed++. Otherwise I have more exciting
anime/nature wallpapers to put on. Being honest, Showing it off, and
Declaring what is better is the only reason I asked for wallpapers +
contents etc. (wasn't wrong thinking like this I hope). (this is how you
convert people nowadays. You influence their decisions/opinions about
things, or they get influenced themselves, just by a little display of
power.)

I mean you can talk to devs as if they are your neighbours, you attend
meetings where you get to vote on what should be implemented, and what's a
bad idea, they handhold you whenever you feel lost etc... And you implement
features for yourself, and for others. Isn't that cool? (this should be in
the wallpapers/sketches, in terms of satire/declaration/invitation...)
i started learning gimp myself!

On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 18:27, Sahil Gautam 
wrote:

> The pictures are good, no doubt about that. But they don't fit the purpose
> I proposed. I meant that there is literally no wallpaper
> out there which is related to libreoffice/TDF, and is usable. For example
> take a look at
> https://www.wallpaperflare.com/do-it-yourself-logo-gnu-debian-linux-text-communication-wallpaper-ppizg
> . It's eye friendly + in our case it could be something like the LO logo
> and the tagline as "Beyond a software" or something like that. To add spice
> to it,
>
> https://www.wallpaperflare.com/apple-logo-linux-gnu-debian-sky-cloud-sky-nature-flying-wallpaper-phdmt
>
> wallpapers like this one would be great.
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/eternal-rivalry-between-emacs-vi-vim-brian-katuu/
> https://x.com/Koral_001/status/1026174143513997312?s=20
> https://www.monkeyuser.com/2017/vim-vs-emacs/
>
> https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_14.jpeg
>
> https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_10.jpg
> etc.
>
> These make people talk about the cause. Plus these are funny as well. If
> they were in some standard resolution, and reasonable background color, Why
> wouldn't someone put them on their desktop (When they know that we the
> community need a lot
> of hands to make it work).
>
> Like this happened to me. Was a normal guy, till an arch user took my
> soul. Now I use arch btw, and take other's souls. Once the soul has been
> taken, there is no option, either live in a dark corner forever, or use the
> better tech.
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 14:06, Mike Saunders <
> mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Delta,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your designs! Note that attachments aren't allowed on
>> this mailing list, but you can upload them to an image sharing site (eg
>> https://imgur.com) and then share the links here.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 17.11.23 09:30, Delta Whiskey wrote:
>> > Morning Sahil,
>> >
>> > Ok attached are a few samples have a look and let me know what you
>> think.
>> >
>> > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I
>> have
>> >> a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has),
>> people
>> >> would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated
>> for
>> >> not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds
>> reasonable).
>> >>
>> >> *I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess
>> what
>> >> I found?*
>> >> *NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that
>> I can
>> >> put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
>> >> *It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
>> >> invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
>> >> Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens
>> and
>> >> be proud of being a part of the community.*
>> >>
>> >> *And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users
>> (used in
>> >> disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
>> >> this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
>> >> *What do you think?*
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Sahil Gautam]

The pictures are good, no doubt about that. But they don't fit the purpose
I proposed. I meant that there is literally no wallpaper
out there which is related to libreoffice/TDF, and is usable. For example
take a look at
https://www.wallpaperflare.com/do-it-yourself-logo-gnu-debian-linux-text-communication-wallpaper-ppizg
. It's eye friendly + in our case it could be something like the LO logo
and the tagline as "Beyond a software" or something like that. To add spice
to it,
https://www.wallpaperflare.com/apple-logo-linux-gnu-debian-sky-cloud-sky-nature-flying-wallpaper-phdmt

wallpapers like this one would be great.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/eternal-rivalry-between-emacs-vi-vim-brian-katuu/
https://x.com/Koral_001/status/1026174143513997312?s=20
https://www.monkeyuser.com/2017/vim-vs-emacs/
https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_14.jpeg
https://itsfoss.com/content/images/wordpress/2013/07/Windows_Vs_Mac_Vs_Linux_10.jpg
etc.

These make people talk about the cause. Plus these are funny as well. If
they were in some standard resolution, and reasonable background color, Why
wouldn't someone put them on their desktop (When they know that we the
community need a lot
of hands to make it work).

Like this happened to me. Was a normal guy, till an arch user took my soul.
Now I use arch btw, and take other's souls. Once the soul has been taken,
there is no option, either live in a dark corner forever, or use the better
tech.


On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 14:06, Mike Saunders <
mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hi Delta,
>
> Thanks for sharing your designs! Note that attachments aren't allowed on
> this mailing list, but you can upload them to an image sharing site (eg
> https://imgur.com) and then share the links here.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
>
> On 17.11.23 09:30, Delta Whiskey wrote:
> > Morning Sahil,
> >
> > Ok attached are a few samples have a look and let me know what you think.
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I
> have
> >> a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has),
> people
> >> would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated
> for
> >> not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds reasonable).
> >>
> >> *I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess
> what
> >> I found?*
> >> *NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that I
> can
> >> put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
> >> *It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
> >> invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
> >> Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens
> and
> >> be proud of being a part of the community.*
> >>
> >> *And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users (used
> in
> >> disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
> >> this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
> >> *What do you think?*
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Delta,

Thanks for sharing your designs! Note that attachments aren't allowed on 
this mailing list, but you can upload them to an image sharing site (eg 
https://imgur.com) and then share the links here.


Cheers,
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On 17.11.23 09:30, Delta Whiskey wrote:

Morning Sahil,

Ok attached are a few samples have a look and let me know what you think.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
wrote:


Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I have
a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has), people
would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated for
not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds reasonable).

*I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess what
I found?*
*NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that I can
put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
*It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens and
be proud of being a part of the community.*

*And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users (used in
disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
*What do you think?*

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Delta Whiskey]

Then the last two, see if thats something you can work with and there are
lots more.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
wrote:

> Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I have
> a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has), people
> would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated for
> not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds reasonable).
>
> *I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess what
> I found?*
> *NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that I can
> put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
> *It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
> invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
> Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens and
> be proud of being a part of the community.*
>
> *And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users (used in
> disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
> this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
> *What do you think?*
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Delta Whiskey]

Ok then another two

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
wrote:

> Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I have
> a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has), people
> would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated for
> not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds reasonable).
>
> *I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess what
> I found?*
> *NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that I can
> put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
> *It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
> invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
> Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens and
> be proud of being a part of the community.*
>
> *And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users (used in
> disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
> this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
> *What do you think?*
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Delta Whiskey]

Morning Sahil,

Ok attached are a few samples have a look and let me know what you think.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:19, Sahil Gautam 
wrote:

> Wallpapers and logos, transparent pngs are a great way to market. If I have
> a cool LO/tdf wallpaper on my/our laptop (like the ones Debian has), people
> would be curious about what it is about + it will keep me/us motivated for
> not slacking, by reminding me/us the cause. (if that sounds reasonable).
>
> *I did a google search for wallpapers (Libreoffice and tdf), and guess what
> I found?*
> *NOTHING. nothing that is in standard resolutions like 1920x1080 that I can
> put on my screen and boast. *:*_|*
> *It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
> invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
> Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens and
> be proud of being a part of the community.*
>
> *And that pride will take the souls of proprietary software users (used in
> disguise), and some/many of them will end up joining the community, and
> this recursion doesn't have any base condition!*
> *What do you think?*
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Heiko Tietze]

Sahil came up with the idea on the design Telegram channel - and I like it too. 
Not much response there otherwise.


On 16.11.23 10:39, Mike Saunders wrote:

Hi Sahil,

On 13.11.23 09:18, Sahil Gautam wrote:


*It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens and
be proud of being a part of the community.*


Thanks for the idea -- I like it! And it's a great way to encourage people to 
get involved, even if they're not developers.


Currently we're running the "Month of LibreOffice" campaign, but in December, 
maybe we can run such a contest. What do others think? I'll ask the Design 
community too...


Cheers,
Mike



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wallpapers for desktop? Where are they. Debian has a lot and we don't!

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Sahil,

On 13.11.23 09:18, Sahil Gautam wrote:


*It would be a good idea to create a community contest, or some twitter
invitation to all those who can do this to make (Cool
Eye-friendly)Wallpapers. Such that someone can put it on their screens and
be proud of being a part of the community.*


Thanks for the idea -- I like it! And it's a great way to encourage 
people to get involved, even if they're not developers.


Currently we're running the "Month of LibreOffice" campaign, but in 
December, maybe we can run such a contest. What do others think? I'll 
ask the Design community too...


Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fosdem

[Italo Vignoli]

We have asked a devroom also, but our request has not been accepted. We 
have to find a different strategy and partner with other projects to get 
a devroom, as those which have been approved are all based on multiple 
projects.


We have also asked for a booth, but these will be confirmed in mid November.

On 09/11/23 12:46, Regis Perdreau wrote:

Hi,

I have reviewed the Fosdem list of developer rooms here :
There are no Officesuite rooms.
Did TDF ask for a booth this year ?

Regards,

Régis Perdreau


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[John Mills]

Hi Regis,
I think it's some fun, visibility and engagement from the community can only 
ever be a positive for the community. I'd be interested to give me thoughts and 
help if I can do.
Regards,
John

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wrote:   Hi Mike,

Yes, i think we have to think of this.
I'm interested to participate to a group if anybody want to think about it.

Regards

Régis Perdreau



Le ven. 4 août 2023 à 11:17, Mike Saunders <
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> Hi everyone,
>
> In the marketing Telegram group, John pointed us to this:
>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23817220/excel-esports-espn-the-ocho-championship-start-time-watch
>
> Quite a fun idea! Maybe we could do something similar with LibreOffice?
> Obviously, we have pretty limited resources, but perhaps something where
> LibreOffice users show us (via screenshots or videos) the cool things
> they're doing with Calc, and then we do a little competition where
> people/TDF members rate them for the best.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Excel World Championship - something similar for LibreOffice?

[Regis Perdreau]

Hi Mike,

Yes, i think we have to think of this.
I'm interested to participate to a group if anybody want to think about it.

Regards

Régis Perdreau



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> Hi everyone,
>
> In the marketing Telegram group, John pointed us to this:
>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23817220/excel-esports-espn-the-ocho-championship-start-time-watch
>
> Quite a fun idea! Maybe we could do something similar with LibreOffice?
> Obviously, we have pretty limited resources, but perhaps something where
> LibreOffice users show us (via screenshots or videos) the cool things
> they're doing with Calc, and then we do a little competition where
> people/TDF members rate them for the best.
>
> Let us know your ideas!
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-09-28 16:00 CEST

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Likewise 3 and no obvious pattern regarding their content.

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From: James Harking 
Sent: 29 September 2023 08:03
To: TDF Marketing 
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 
2023-09-28 16:00 CEST

Is anyone else having a number of TDF mails arriving in their SPAM folder?

I have had 3 recently.

Cheers

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Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda:
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Hi Sophie,
I firstly would like to state that I am in no way negating the hard work
the developers make to LibreOffice.
My point is rather that the current model of software releases does not,
from what I can tell, serve to provide a compelling user experience when a
security incident occurs.
I expect that 90+ % of LibreOffice users will now be stuck on an insecure
version of the software. Perhaps Linux users have an advantage if their
distribution provides rolling updates.
However for Mac and Windows users there is no mechanism to inform that a
high priority CVE has been found that potentially impacts their safety
while using LibreOffice. With browser software such as Mozilla Firefox and
Google Chrome I am continuously moved to a patched version.
As a user of Microsoft office 365, for my job, the situation is the same as
my browser. I find the inability with LibreOffice to adequately inform
millions of users that a security vulnerability could compromise their
system very problematic. This could cause significant reputational damage
to The Document Foundation if a very critical security issue was discovered.
I personally would like to see some option to receive security updates
continuously, be that with LibreOffice auto updating like Microsoft office
365 or at the minimum some type of notification within LibreOffice that I
should consider upgrading due to a security vulnerability.
There will be many millions of users who have no knowledge of this issue
and will continue to use versions of LibreOffice that could be many years
old. I believe that TDF has a duty of care to ensure where possible that
our users are running software that is as secure as we know.
Best regards,
John
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

  On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 9:24 pm, sophi wrote:   Hi
Eyal, John,

Just to give some information on this peculiar episode. The CVE happened
just before the conference where most of the team was traveling, not
easy to do a respin in those conditions.

What Miklos meant is that in the *dev* point of view it was solved, a
fix has been provided thanks to Caolan, that's all developers can do
"they move on to the next issue". So nothing more on their side to talk
about. It doesn't mean they don't care about users, they have done their
job in fixing the issue, the rest is not in their power. It's up to us,
you, me.

Then it's up to release engineering, UX and marketing to act. What RE
did from Monday to today because there was some problem with a Mac version.

We have discussed today inside the team how we could better served our
users when this type of issue emerged. Security is a difficult topic to
talk about, there is not only the fix, but how it's embargoed for other
products, etc.

I think the best way now to go on positively on this is to have a
discussion between marketing, UX and RE: should we have a pop-up in the
product advertising about security fix, should we have a special
communication campaign. Most of the time, there is an embargo and we
release security fixes without communication because of that, what
should we do?

Please, open the discussion on the marketing list, all points of view
and ideas are valuable, but don't shout to our developers, they provided
a fix very quickly, up to us to know how to communicate it now. This was
a new situation that needs to be addressed, your opinion about users is
very much valid, how should we go from there now?

Cheers
Sophi

Le 28/09/2023 à 21:36, Eyal Rozenberg a écrit :
> I second John's sentiment.
>
> For the vast majority of LibreOffice users, this security problem is
> _not_ fixed. And that is because they run versions of LibreOffice with
> the vulnerability but without the fix; and have not been made aware of
> the vulnerability and the release-with-a-fix.
>
> I would claim that we are responsible to make our users thus aware. Now,
> it's true that a user is not likely to allow this particular exploit to
> be taken advantage of, since that would mean directing LO at a malicious
> .webp somewhere. But - we have over 200 million users IIANM. If
> malicious 

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Requesting SVG of Application icons

[Pratyush Jayachandran]

This is great!
The ones I actually want were found in help/media/navigation though

I'll be adding these to the project!

Will update you once all the icons are added.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 02:23 Michael D. Setzer II 
wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2023 at 19:47, Pratyush Jayachandran wrote:
>
> From:   Pratyush Jayachandran
> 
> Date sent:  Sun, 17 Sep 2023 19:47:24 -0700
> Subject:[libreoffice-marketing] Requesting SVG of
> Application icons
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was looking for the SVG icons of all LibreOffice applications so that
> > they can be added to https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons
> >
> > The LibreOffice logo is already added to the repo here:
> > https://simpleicons.org/?q=libreoffice
> >
> > The application icons were requested in this issue:
> > https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons/issues/9496
> > But in order to add those icons, we would prefer to use the SVG from
> > official sources.
>
> Note sure if these are what you are looking for:
> Looking in the directory with latest 7.6 installed I found
> pwd
> /opt/libreoffice7.6/help/media/icon-themes/res
> # ls -l *128.svg
> -rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1640 Sep  7 03:21 base128.svg
> -rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1569 Sep  7 03:21 calc128.svg
> -rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1887 Sep  7 03:21 draw128.svg
> -rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1873 Sep  7 03:21 impress128.svg
> -rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1151 Sep  7 03:21 main128.svg
> -rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1897 Sep  7 03:21 math128.svg
> -rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1814 Sep  7 03:21 writer128.svg
>
> There are lots of other files in directory, but those seem to be the
> ones for applications.
>
>
>
> >
> > The project is primarily used by people wanting to display brand icons in
> > their GitHub profiles, social networks or Readme.md hosted on any
> platform.
> > Sample badge:
> > https://img.shields.io/badge/LibreOffice-badge-18a303?logo=libreoffice
> > Sample usage of badges in Readme:
> > https://github.com/badges/shields/blob/master/README.md
> >
> > The simple-icons project 
> > itself is licensed under CC0-1.0 license
> > 
> but
> > has the facility to add a license and brand guidelines link for each
> icon.
> > This document and link are available to users of the package and clearly
> > displayed on the website.
> >
> > I would be grateful if your team can provide the SVG versions of the
> > application logos so they can be added to the project.
> >
> > Yours thankfully
> > *Pratyush Mangalakattu*
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Requesting SVG of Application icons

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 17 Sep 2023 at 19:47, Pratyush Jayachandran wrote:

From:   Pratyush Jayachandran 

Date sent:  Sun, 17 Sep 2023 19:47:24 -0700
Subject:[libreoffice-marketing] Requesting SVG of 
Application icons
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org

> Hello,
> 
> I was looking for the SVG icons of all LibreOffice applications so that
> they can be added to https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons
> 
> The LibreOffice logo is already added to the repo here:
> https://simpleicons.org/?q=libreoffice
> 
> The application icons were requested in this issue:
> https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons/issues/9496
> But in order to add those icons, we would prefer to use the SVG from
> official sources.

Note sure if these are what you are looking for:
Looking in the directory with latest 7.6 installed I found
pwd
/opt/libreoffice7.6/help/media/icon-themes/res
# ls -l *128.svg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1640 Sep  7 03:21 base128.svg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1569 Sep  7 03:21 calc128.svg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1887 Sep  7 03:21 draw128.svg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1873 Sep  7 03:21 impress128.svg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1151 Sep  7 03:21 main128.svg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1897 Sep  7 03:21 math128.svg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 root root 1814 Sep  7 03:21 writer128.svg

There are lots of other files in directory, but those seem to be the 
ones for applications.



> 
> The project is primarily used by people wanting to display brand icons in
> their GitHub profiles, social networks or Readme.md hosted on any platform.
> Sample badge:
> https://img.shields.io/badge/LibreOffice-badge-18a303?logo=libreoffice
> Sample usage of badges in Readme:
> https://github.com/badges/shields/blob/master/README.md
> 
> The simple-icons project 
> itself is licensed under CC0-1.0 license
>  but
> has the facility to add a license and brand guidelines link for each icon.
> This document and link are available to users of the package and clearly
> displayed on the website.
> 
> I would be grateful if your team can provide the SVG versions of the
> application logos so they can be added to the project.
> 
> Yours thankfully
> *Pratyush Mangalakattu*
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Requesting SVG of Application icons

[Italo Vignoli]

SVG icons are available here:

https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/tree/master/sysui/desktop/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps

On 18/09/23 04:47, Pratyush Jayachandran wrote:

Hello,

I was looking for the SVG icons of all LibreOffice applications so that
they can be added to https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons

The LibreOffice logo is already added to the repo here:
https://simpleicons.org/?q=libreoffice

The application icons were requested in this issue:
https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons/issues/9496
But in order to add those icons, we would prefer to use the SVG from
official sources.

The project is primarily used by people wanting to display brand icons in
their GitHub profiles, social networks or Readme.md hosted on any platform.
Sample badge:
https://img.shields.io/badge/LibreOffice-badge-18a303?logo=libreoffice
Sample usage of badges in Readme:
https://github.com/badges/shields/blob/master/README.md

The simple-icons project 
itself is licensed under CC0-1.0 license
 but
has the facility to add a license and brand guidelines link for each icon.
This document and link are available to users of the package and clearly
displayed on the website.

I would be grateful if your team can provide the SVG versions of the
application logos so they can be added to the project.

Yours thankfully
*Pratyush Mangalakattu*


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Requesting SVG of Application icons

[Italo Vignoli]

I don't think we have SVG icons for applications, but I might be wrong. 
Adding the LibreOffice design mailing list, where there are the people 
who can provide the SVG icons (if they exist). We at marketing do not 
have them.


On 18/09/23 04:47, Pratyush Jayachandran wrote:

Hello,

I was looking for the SVG icons of all LibreOffice applications so that
they can be added to https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons

The LibreOffice logo is already added to the repo here:
https://simpleicons.org/?q=libreoffice

The application icons were requested in this issue:
https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons/issues/9496
But in order to add those icons, we would prefer to use the SVG from
official sources.

The project is primarily used by people wanting to display brand icons in
their GitHub profiles, social networks or Readme.md hosted on any platform.
Sample badge:
https://img.shields.io/badge/LibreOffice-badge-18a303?logo=libreoffice
Sample usage of badges in Readme:
https://github.com/badges/shields/blob/master/README.md

The simple-icons project 
itself is licensed under CC0-1.0 license
 but
has the facility to add a license and brand guidelines link for each icon.
This document and link are available to users of the package and clearly
displayed on the website.

I would be grateful if your team can provide the SVG versions of the
application logos so they can be added to the project.

Yours thankfully
*Pratyush Mangalakattu*


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] FSF Free Software Foundation

[Italo Vignoli]

We have attended several LibrePlanet Conferences. The Free Software 
Foundation is one of the leading organizations for free software, and 
the home of Richard Stallman, the man who developed the concept of free 
software and created the entire FOSS movement. I do not think we will 
attend LibrePlanet in 2024 from Europe, but we can discuss the topic in 
the marketing call we will organize just after the LibreOffice Conference.


On 09/09/23 14:58, Yoshi wrote:

How relevant is this group and has anyone attended one of their LibrePlanet 
conferences? They've issued a Call for Sessions and sound as if they're 
planning an event in 2024 but info is sparse. Thanks.

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page

Yoshi

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] WordPad being removed from future Windows releases

[Simon Phipps]

Thanks for posting this, Mike. I do think a blog post would be worthwhile,
perhaps developing a theme of Microsoft abandoning the self-sovereign
desktop as we go - a theme I suspect several developments would fit into.

One small thought on the Mastodon posts. With no god-like Algorithm to
expose posts to new readers, we need to use hashtags in every post to make
sure things get read. Perhaps add in #FOSS #FLOSS #OpenSource
#SoftwareFreedom #Office for this one?

Cheers

Simon

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> Hi all,
>
> We just posted this:
>
> https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice/111006775317460118
>
> https://twitter.com/LibreOffice/status/1698667799667769626
>
> Maybe it's worth doing a blog post / page on the site as well, to
> capture searches from people looking for WordPad
> replacements/alternatives. What do you think?
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Quick intro

[Mike Saunders]

Welcome, Yoshi! (For the list: Yoshi and I were in contact for a while, 
and I said he could also post here and say hello to the community.)


On 14.07.23 18:15, Yoshi wrote:


A quick intro. My name is Yoshi and I recently took interest in expanding 
LibreOffice market footprint in the US.


This is really appreciated, as we don't have a lot of presence in the 
USA, from a marketing side. Anyone else on this list in the USA: please 
drop me a line, and we can help you to promote LibreOffice, free 
software and open standards there :-)



I've been using LibreOffice for about 5 years and always wondered why its use 
wasn't more widespread in the US. For example, I recently attended a WP 
WordCamp and heard nary a word about LibreOffice. I'd like to change that.


Good starting point, yes!


Immediately, I'm trying to get a sense of how many copies of LibreOffice are in 
active use in the US. To do this, I'm registering for various Zoom meetings 
with Linux groups, startup entrepreneurs and SMB owners. My goal is to persuade 
PC mfgs to bundle LibreOffice with hw.


We know that some PC companies bundle LibreOffice, so yes, encouraging 
more to do so is great. How are your meetings coming on?


Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jonathon,

On 20.07.23 19:42, jonathon wrote:


Back in the days of OOo, there was a marketing proposal with the slogan:
"Your language, your documents, your way"

Part of the idea was that the UI and spellchecking were available in 
more languages than MSO. I no longer track such things, but I suspect 
that LibO still covers more languages than MSO does, as far as UI, 
spell-checking, and grammar checking go.


Yes, that's definitely still the case.

There are three or four instances in which a user can provide their 
documents to a third party, without realising that they are doing so. 
The biggest culprit being the built-in Language-Tool settings;


Good point, but this is not enabled by default, so I think we can still 
point out how LibreOffice is out-of-the-box, much like OpenBSD does: 
https://www.openbsd.org/


"Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!"

From my perspective, the AI extensions for stock LibO haven't been that 
impressive.


I believe there will be a talk about improvements to these extensions at 
the LibreOffice Conference 2023, so see if you can join! If not, we're 
hoping to live-stream the talks -- and in any case, videos will be 
available after the event:


https://conference.libreoffice.org/2023/

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Sam,

On 14.07.23 22:31, Sam Tuke wrote:
>

Is there not telemetry / product intelligence built in to LO? If currently 
there is not, then personally I would not rule it out in future. Good ux and 
product decisions are driven by such data. Certainly the matter has been 
debated in different LO teams in the past. Sam.


There isn't at the moment (unless we call an anonymised update checked 
"telemetry", but I wouldn't). And sure, the Design community has talked 
about these ideas in the past, but purely as an opt-in feature,.


So IMO we can still promote our strengths that out-of-the-box, 
LibreOffice doesn't collect your data.


Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

[jonathon]

Mike Saunder wrote:

I think the big "NO" is effective on social media here, attracting 
attention. So how about a variant on this image, confirming that 
LibreOffice doesn't "mine" any data or do anything with AI?


Back in the days of OOo, there was a marketing proposal with the slogan:
"Your language, your documents, your way"

Part of the idea was that the UI and spellchecking were available in 
more languages than MSO. I no longer track such things, but I suspect 
that LibO still covers more languages than MSO does, as far as UI, 
spell-checking, and grammar checking go. I suspect that MSO and LibO can 
write the same number of languages.


Your documents meant that the data on your system stayed on your system, 
unless you deliberatly provide it to third parties.


There are three or four instances in which a user can provide their 
documents to a third party, without realising that they are doing so. 
The biggest culprit being the built-in Language-Tool settings;
IIRC, the other culprits require the user to install the extension that 
does that data transmission.


With the appropriate configuration settings, copying data from one 
document to another can be problematic. As in, LibO simply sits there, 
saying copying is not possible, except it displays a much more cryptic 
message. Unfortunately, that security setting doesn't extend to not 
unintentionally send your documents to a third party.


Your way refers to the degree of customisation that is possible.
Extensions, templates, and similar things.
(In my mind I go back to a proposed commercial,depicting the office 
manager onboarding a new employee. As each employee is introduced to the 
new hire, the camera pans over the employees computer screen. The 
software is obviously LibO, but every monitor has a different writing 
system, and every computer uses a different data input system. On the 
manager's desk is a moon printer.)


Of course, some people find AI/LLM tools useful in the context of office software, so we shouldn't try to simply paint them as bad. 


From my perspective, the AI extensions for stock LibO haven't been that 
impressive.
OTOH,for those that went to trouble of downloading the code, tweaking 
it, and adding the requistite modifications, the AI tools have been 
extremely impressive --- if your desktop has enough RAM, drive space, 
graphics chips, and multiprocessor chips. (20+ TB drives, and 256+ GB 
RAM, etc.)



But stress that LibreOffice does nothing with your content, except let you work 
on it.




jonathon



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

[Sam Tuke]

Is there not telemetry / product intelligence built in to LO? If currently 
there is not, then personally I would not rule it out in future. Good ux and 
product decisions are driven by such data. Certainly the matter has been 
debated in different LO teams in the past. Sam. 

On 14 July 2023 12:02:06 CEST, Mike Saunders 
 wrote:
>Hi again Anshuman,
>
>On 12.07.23 09:50, Anshuman Pandey wrote:
>> 
>> This is very topical in the Open Source community. Given the news on
>> RedHat and Fedora and people's concerns on privacy, it is a good time to
>> have a marketing campaign. Here are a few ideas (basically builds on
>> your example)
>> 
>> 1. Similar to the prior: No (In large Font) next to a) Data Mining, b)
>> Telemetry, c) Hidden Algorithms
>> 
>> 2. Instead of the NO, we can use a spyglass and cross it out in the
>> first idea
>
>Thanks for the ideas -- I think they're good. I tried with a spyglass, and it 
>looked a bit abstract. So instead, I found an image of someone "spying" on 
>your data, and made a version of the image like so:
>
>https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/a/aa/No_data_mining.png
>
>What do you think?
>
>> 3. Puppet Strings: Show a bunch of documents  attached to puppet
>> strings, being controlled by a hand (representing other office
>> software). Next to this, show some documents free from strings and happy
>> under the LibreOffice logo, illustrating the freedom and control you
>> have over your documents.
>
>That could also work, but needs someone with more graphic design skills than 
>me, I think :-) Anyone on the list here want to try making such an image? That 
>would be great help!
>
>> For these ideas we can use a subtitle within the image as - "Don't worry
>> about prying eyes on your data or hidden AI algorithms. With
>> LibreOffice, your content is yours alone."
>
>I like this too, and have integrated it into the image that I uploaded on the 
>wiki.
>
>Cheers,
>Mike
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

[Nigel Verity]

Hi Mike

Don't understate your graphic design skills! I found your "No telemetry" slide 
with the spy very powerful. It's a strong card to play and think consideration 
should be given to displaying it on the LO home page.

All the best

Nige

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From: Mike Saunders 
Sent: 14 July 2023 11:02
To: Anshuman Pandey ; Marketing list 

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

Hi again Anshuman,

On 12.07.23 09:50, Anshuman Pandey wrote:
>
> This is very topical in the Open Source community. Given the news on
> RedHat and Fedora and people's concerns on privacy, it is a good time to
> have a marketing campaign. Here are a few ideas (basically builds on
> your example)
>
> 1. Similar to the prior: No (In large Font) next to a) Data Mining, b)
> Telemetry, c) Hidden Algorithms
>
> 2. Instead of the NO, we can use a spyglass and cross it out in the
> first idea

Thanks for the ideas -- I think they're good. I tried with a spyglass,
and it looked a bit abstract. So instead, I found an image of someone
"spying" on your data, and made a version of the image like so:

https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.documentfoundation.org%2Fimages%2Fa%2Faa%2FNo_data_mining.png=05%7C01%7C%7Cbce5c339c2c34619704d08db8451a7d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638249258459760010%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=vblYGtS90W%2F%2BkRc99gHfOjv7mSHOMkgQGpDFYASviG0%3D=0<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/a/aa/No_data_mining.png>

What do you think?

> 3. Puppet Strings: Show a bunch of documents  attached to puppet
> strings, being controlled by a hand (representing other office
> software). Next to this, show some documents free from strings and happy
> under the LibreOffice logo, illustrating the freedom and control you
> have over your documents.

That could also work, but needs someone with more graphic design skills
than me, I think :-) Anyone on the list here want to try making such an
image? That would be great help!

> For these ideas we can use a subtitle within the image as - "Don't worry
> about prying eyes on your data or hidden AI algorithms. With
> LibreOffice, your content is yours alone."

I like this too, and have integrated it into the image that I uploaded
on the wiki.

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi again Anshuman,

On 12.07.23 09:50, Anshuman Pandey wrote:


This is very topical in the Open Source community. Given the news on
RedHat and Fedora and people's concerns on privacy, it is a good time to
have a marketing campaign. Here are a few ideas (basically builds on
your example)

1. Similar to the prior: No (In large Font) next to a) Data Mining, b)
Telemetry, c) Hidden Algorithms

2. Instead of the NO, we can use a spyglass and cross it out in the
first idea


Thanks for the ideas -- I think they're good. I tried with a spyglass, 
and it looked a bit abstract. So instead, I found an image of someone 
"spying" on your data, and made a version of the image like so:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/a/aa/No_data_mining.png

What do you think?


3. Puppet Strings: Show a bunch of documents  attached to puppet
strings, being controlled by a hand (representing other office
software). Next to this, show some documents free from strings and happy
under the LibreOffice logo, illustrating the freedom and control you
have over your documents.


That could also work, but needs someone with more graphic design skills 
than me, I think :-) Anyone on the list here want to try making such an 
image? That would be great help!



For these ideas we can use a subtitle within the image as - "Don't worry
about prying eyes on your data or hidden AI algorithms. With
LibreOffice, your content is yours alone."


I like this too, and have integrated it into the image that I uploaded 
on the wiki.


Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Anshuman,

On 12.07.23 09:23, Anshuman Pandey wrote:


Here come the Impress Screenshots, focused on working with Master Slides
(building your own template)

https://we.tl/t-VRblyL2e9A


Thanks a lot! Some good, clear screenshots there too. I'll talk with 
Ilmari about implementing them in the new website, and we can use them 
for other marketing purposes too.



Good to see my contributions are already up on the socials. Very happy
to continue helping.


Yes, the dark mode screenshot got a lot of activity already!

* Twitter: 11,842 views, 224 likes, 38 retweets

* Mastodon: 88 likes and 31 shares

* Facebook: 6,883 views, 33 comments and 7 shares

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice and "datamining" - opportunity?

[Anshuman Pandey]

Hi Mike,

This is very topical in the Open Source community. Given the news on 
RedHat and Fedora and people's concerns on privacy, it is a good time to 
have a marketing campaign. Here are a few ideas (basically builds on 
your example)

1. Similar to the prior: No (In large Font) next to a) Data Mining, b) 
Telemetry, c) Hidden Algorithms

2. Instead of the NO, we can use a spyglass and cross it out in the 
first idea

3. Puppet Strings: Show a bunch of documents  attached to puppet 
strings, being controlled by a hand (representing other office 
software). Next to this, show some documents free from strings and happy 
under the LibreOffice logo, illustrating the freedom and control you 
have over your documents.

4. Road Sign: Create a visual of a road sign with one direction labeled 
"Data Mining, Telemetry, Hidden Algorithms" and the other "LibreOffice", 
showing the clear distinction between the paths.

For these ideas we can use a subtitle within the image as - "Don't worry 
about prying eyes on your data or hidden AI algorithms. With 
LibreOffice, your content is yours alone."


Kind Regards,

Anshuman


On 7/12/23 12:36, Mike Saunders wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Check out this post on Reddit:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/14ww2n8/ai_datamining/
>
> Someone is asking whether LibreOffice "collects user data for AI". We've
> had similar questions on social media as well, so perhaps we can make a
> marketing campaign out of this?
>
> For instance, in the last few years we've used this image to highlight
> the fact that LibreOffice doesn't require subscriptions to anything:
>
> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/NO_subscriptions.png
>
> I think the big "NO" is effective on social media here, attracting
> attention. So how about a variant on this image, confirming that
> LibreOffice doesn't "mine" any data or do anything with AI?
>
> Of course, some people find AI/LLM tools useful in the context of office
> software, so we shouldn't try to simply paint them as bad. But stress
> that LibreOffice does nothing with your content, except let you work on it.
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas/feedback!
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

[Anshuman Pandey]

Hi Mike,

Here come the Impress Screenshots, focused on working with Master Slides 
(building your own template)

https://we.tl/t-VRblyL2e9A

Good to see my contributions are already up on the socials. Very happy 
to continue helping.


Kind Regards,

Anshuman

On 7/11/23 14:34, Mike Saunders wrote:
> Hi Anshuman,
>
> On 10.07.23 16:33, Anshuman Pandey wrote:
>> Here is the link of the updated screenshots based on your comments. I
>> took the liberty to add a few more for Calc.
>>
>> https://we.tl/t-habwfUjkZx
> Ah yes, those improvements help a lot! It's really useful to have lots
> of screenshots, and I've already used one of them to promote the dark
> mode on social media, Reddit, Telegram etc. (it's a really popular
> feature, and many users still aren't aware of it):
>
> https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice/110694628522191140
>
> https://twitter.com/LibreOffice/status/1678690325328547840
>
> https://www.facebook.com/libreoffice.org/posts/pfbid0RDdEeUYJNoR3i9pyaayEmQAsCFtQtJWWEgH55A53z9TvymQMkjzCVPH2zdxfH8vpl
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/14wlsy5/tried_libreoffices_dark_mode_yet_tools_options/
>
>> I am aiming to send the Impress ones later tomorrow. I hope that's okay.
> Sure, no rush! Thanks again for your help :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Mike


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Anshuman,

On 10.07.23 16:33, Anshuman Pandey wrote:


Here is the link of the updated screenshots based on your comments. I
took the liberty to add a few more for Calc.

https://we.tl/t-habwfUjkZx


Ah yes, those improvements help a lot! It's really useful to have lots 
of screenshots, and I've already used one of them to promote the dark 
mode on social media, Reddit, Telegram etc. (it's a really popular 
feature, and many users still aren't aware of it):


https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice/110694628522191140

https://twitter.com/LibreOffice/status/1678690325328547840

https://www.facebook.com/libreoffice.org/posts/pfbid0RDdEeUYJNoR3i9pyaayEmQAsCFtQtJWWEgH55A53z9TvymQMkjzCVPH2zdxfH8vpl

https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/14wlsy5/tried_libreoffices_dark_mode_yet_tools_options/


I am aiming to send the Impress ones later tomorrow. I hope that's okay.


Sure, no rush! Thanks again for your help :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

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Hi Mike,

On 10.07.23 17:27, Mike wrote:


Why am I getting your conversations? Probably because you included
cc:	Marketing list >


This happens a lot and you end up my spam folder.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

[Mike]

Hello Anshuman and Mike.
Why am I getting your conversations? Probably because you included
cc: Marketing list 
This happens a lot and you end up my spam folder.


On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 8:35 AM Anshuman Pandey <
anshuman.pan...@protonmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Here is the link of the updated screenshots based on your comments. I
> took the liberty to add a few more for Calc.
>
> https://we.tl/t-habwfUjkZx
>
> I am aiming to send the Impress ones later tomorrow. I hope that's okay.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Anshuman
>
>
> On 7/10/23 18:33, Mike Saunders wrote:
> > On 10.07.23 14:17, Anshuman Pandey wrote:
> >> Link: https://we.tl/t-R6yF1owKoq
> > Thanks, Anshuman! They look good. For the dark mode Calc screenshots,
> > maybe you can also change the document background to be black (under
> > Tools > Options > Application Colors) and then use white text in the
> > cells, to make it a full dark mode.
> >
> > And for the Writer screenshots, with the Lorem Ipsum text, maybe disable
> > the spelling checker, to remove the squiggly red underline from the
> > text, to make it cleaner.
> >
> > Thanks again -- great work!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

[Anshuman Pandey]

Hi Mike,

Here is the link of the updated screenshots based on your comments. I 
took the liberty to add a few more for Calc.

https://we.tl/t-habwfUjkZx

I am aiming to send the Impress ones later tomorrow. I hope that's okay.


Kind Regards,

Anshuman


On 7/10/23 18:33, Mike Saunders wrote:
> On 10.07.23 14:17, Anshuman Pandey wrote:
>> Link: https://we.tl/t-R6yF1owKoq
> Thanks, Anshuman! They look good. For the dark mode Calc screenshots,
> maybe you can also change the document background to be black (under
> Tools > Options > Application Colors) and then use white text in the
> cells, to make it a full dark mode.
>
> And for the Writer screenshots, with the Lorem Ipsum text, maybe disable
> the spelling checker, to remove the squiggly red underline from the
> text, to make it cleaner.
>
> Thanks again -- great work!
>
> Cheers,
> Mike


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

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On 10.07.23 14:17, Anshuman Pandey wrote:


Link: https://we.tl/t-R6yF1owKoq


Thanks, Anshuman! They look good. For the dark mode Calc screenshots, 
maybe you can also change the document background to be black (under 
Tools > Options > Application Colors) and then use white text in the 
cells, to make it a full dark mode.


And for the Writer screenshots, with the Lorem Ipsum text, maybe disable 
the spelling checker, to remove the squiggly red underline from the 
text, to make it cleaner.


Thanks again -- great work!

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

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Hi Mike,

Here is the link for Calc and Writer screenshots. I have tried to show 
the use of LibreOffice in some complex situation that can show the 
capabilities of Calc and Writer. The link also has the files used to 
create the screenshots, so please feel free to update if needed or let 
me know if something can be made better.

Link: https://we.tl/t-R6yF1owKoq

Meanwhile, I will see how I can do something similar for Impress.

Kind Regards,

Anshuman


On 7/10/23 17:03, Mike Saunders wrote:
> Hi Anshuman,
>
> On 10.07.23 09:23, Anshuman Pandey wrote:
>> I have finished the Calc and Writer screenshots. Could you please let me
>> know how I can send this to you? Would links from WeTransfer work?
> Great -- yes, WeTransfer or some other file hosting site is fine. Then I
> can take a look, and we can upload them to the TDF infrastructure (eg
> the wiki) for others to see, and possibly make translated versions!
>
>> While working on the Impress screenshots, I wondered, what are we aiming
>> to show/capture? e.g,. one thing that I thought would be interesting to
>> capture is the ability to modify and create Master Slides, which is more
>> of a power users' need and from what I gather free alternatives like
>> OnlyOffice don't have. If you or the team have more ideas please let me
>> know.
> That sounds like a good idea indeed. See if it's something you can
> demonstrate clearly with a few screenshots, and if it works, let's do it.
>
> Looking forward to seeing them!
>
> Cheers,
> Mike


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

[Anshuman Pandey]

Hi Mike,

Here is the link for Calc and Writer screenshots. I have tried to show 
the use of LibreOffice in some complex situation that can show the 
capabilities of Calc and Writer. The link also has the files used to 
create the screenshots, so please feel free to update if needed or let 
me know if something can be made better.

Link: https://we.tl/t-R6yF1owKoq

Meanwhile, I will see how I can do something similar for Impress.

Kind Regards,

Anshuman


On 7/10/23 17:03, Mike Saunders wrote:
> Hi Anshuman,
>
> On 10.07.23 09:23, Anshuman Pandey wrote:
>> I have finished the Calc and Writer screenshots. Could you please let me
>> know how I can send this to you? Would links from WeTransfer work?
> Great -- yes, WeTransfer or some other file hosting site is fine. Then I
> can take a look, and we can upload them to the TDF infrastructure (eg
> the wiki) for others to see, and possibly make translated versions!
>
>> While working on the Impress screenshots, I wondered, what are we aiming
>> to show/capture? e.g,. one thing that I thought would be interesting to
>> capture is the ability to modify and create Master Slides, which is more
>> of a power users' need and from what I gather free alternatives like
>> OnlyOffice don't have. If you or the team have more ideas please let me
>> know.
> That sounds like a good idea indeed. See if it's something you can
> demonstrate clearly with a few screenshots, and if it works, let's do it.
>
> Looking forward to seeing them!
>
> Cheers,
> Mike


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Marketing Activities – Annual Report 2022

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Anshuman,

On 10.07.23 09:23, Anshuman Pandey wrote:


I have finished the Calc and Writer screenshots. Could you please let me
know how I can send this to you? Would links from WeTransfer work?


Great -- yes, WeTransfer or some other file hosting site is fine. Then I 
can take a look, and we can upload them to the TDF infrastructure (eg 
the wiki) for others to see, and possibly make translated versions!



While working on the Impress screenshots, I wondered, what are we aiming
to show/capture? e.g,. one thing that I thought would be interesting to
capture is the ability to modify and create Master Slides, which is more
of a power users' need and from what I gather free alternatives like
OnlyOffice don't have. If you or the team have more ideas please let me
know.


That sounds like a good idea indeed. See if it's something you can 
demonstrate clearly with a few screenshots, and if it works, let's do it.


Looking forward to seeing them!

Cheers,
Mike

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