[libreoffice-marketing] Re: DVD material updated

2011-01-31 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-30 14:12, Marc Paré a écrit :

Le 2011-01-30 11:03, Fabián Rodríguez a écrit :

On 01/30/2011 10:21 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hello Fabian

Well yes it does clear up misunderstandings. In the future we will issue
logos without "The Document Foundation" written on it for people who
wish to
distribute tailored labels. My offer that you design the official label
still stands, however.


The logo w/o TDF wording would make my label look like this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/659391/Libo-dvd-2-1.pdf

I'll put more time on this when I can - thanks again for all your
comments.

Cheers,

Fabian

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Hi Fabián:

All of your work looks great. Thanks a lot for the committed time.

Drew just made a mention that such a disk would be great to have for the
US/Can teams. So, to make it clear, removing the TDF name would be
acceptable as disks that we could personally burn for personal use? That
is, removing your name and replacing with our own particular names?

Cheers

Marc




Hi Fabián:

Je passe une nuit blanche, so,  ... for LightScribe burn:

I tried your label on a Lightscribe (Linux -- LaCie LightScribe 
Labeller). I first exported as a .png, there is no need to remove the 
second label and burned it onto a sepia lightscribe blank disk. I did 
this in optimal mode (it's a little finer than regular mode but takes 
longer to burn). The results were OK but not spectacular. The font size 
would need to be increased by one or two points. Overall the LibreOffice 
name and website as well as your bottom 3 lines with your name and site 
come through cleanly. The burn took approx. 16 minutes (I really need to 
upgrade my system (sigh)).


I tried your label on the "normal" setting with all text bolded. It was 
less readable than the previous burn. The burn took 11 minutes.


I'll experiment with larger font size on later burns.

Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

2011-01-31 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Stefan, Dave, all,

Thanks for pointing to the important basics for any LibO related artwork!

> Hi Dave,
> 
> Am 30.01.2011 23:02, schrieb Dave Johnson:
> 
> > Here is the label for my local area.
> > 
> > http://www.davefilms.us/libreoffice/LibO-dvd-label-DaveFilms_2011.png
> 
> Please follow the branding guidelines:
> 
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Logos
> 
> Especially here: You are not allowed to replace the Logo text nor
> use a different font. Instead, use the logo graphic files available
> from the project.

This case is quite special because Dave mimics the original logo 
by putting together the single parts of the logo (symbol and text), 
whiole using them alone is allowed following the Guidelines.

What needs consideration is: 

- Don't reduce the white space area around the logo to less than 
1/2 the width of the symbol.

The "SM" sign is just 1/4 of the symbol's width away from the 
LibreOffice text.

When the right distances are respected, the impression of a 
modified logo will be reduced, as the distance allows a clear
distiction between our logo and the surroundings.

- Don't modify the logo colors.

The lower border of the symbol is covered by some kind of 
grey painting - perhaps this derives from removing the gradient
in front of the logo.

Either use the contemporary logo if you want to show gradients
or use the default logo, if the symbol sould stay black.

> 
> Also see the Trademark Policy
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy

Following our latest discussions with Dave, I'm quite sure 
he is informed about it - especially with regards to the 
differentiation between external reference to the product and
community on the one hand and representation as TDF / 
community spokespeople / official provider of resources
on the other.

Very soon there will be a modified logo to be used for
external reference - probably based on this draft:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Non-TDF_logos.png

So please stay tuned...

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Personally I don't think that the colors of the blue gradient 
fit very well with the LibO green, but this is nothing we need to
discuss here...




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[libreoffice-marketing] Release 19 edition of Revista BrOffice

2011-01-31 Thread Eliane Domingos de Sousa
Good morning,

Hi

We are happy to announce the availability of  19th issue of Revista do
BrOffice, our monthly magazine dedicated to the BrOffice / LibreOffice
community in Brazil.

You can donwload it from our site:
http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED019.pdf?format=raw
 or read online from 
http://www.youblisher.com/p/89935-Revista-BrOffice-Edicao-19/

The magazine was edited and formated in LibreOffice Draw. If you want to
translate it into you own native language, please drop me a note, and I
will send you the ODG files.

with kind regards

Eliane Domingos
Revista BrOffice Community Manager
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
+ 5521 9837-6149 | 8714-7868 | 9253-2939
skype: elianedomingos
gtalk: elianedomin...@gmail.com
identi.ca: elianedomingos - twitter: Eliane_Domingos - facebook:
elianedomingos 

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice DVD test

2011-01-31 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Fabian, Houbsi,  all

sorry for stepping in so late - but caused by the amount of mails during 
the last days, I'm working hard to reduce the number of open replies...

Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
> On 01/29/2011 09:15 PM, Mike Houben wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I don't know why we have a Design-Team which is working on a 
> > DVD-Label and you are making your own?! 

Because we are still in the period of defining our positions. When the 
resources are ready and most of the people in the lists know what
goes on, a short reminder by one of the more experiences team
members will provide the necessary information to find the best way
for most of the questions.
> >
> > Houbsi
> >
> > P.S.: Is it just me or are the Teams working each on his own Planet without 
> > looking what the others are doing?!
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I am not in the design team and I needed these rather quickly. I am just
> sharing what I am doing, now that you mention it I hope someone from the
> design team is sitting on both lists (or vice-versa).

Even if I'd like you to join the Design Team, this is no necessary 
precondition to design any LibO related artwork. ;-)

There are people (like me ;-) ) on both lists - but sharing whith the dedicated 
group would have even more positive effect.

> 
> I am only making 50 for this run, I'll be distributing them in person in
> a workshop I am giving (Introduction to Free Software & GNU/Linux). I'll
> gladly adopt/adapt any other label(s) in the making! So far the few
> initial DVDs I made had great reception.

As you already printed the labels, go ahead with them (especially as you 
give them away personally with apropriate comments).

But if you start to create new ones, please take into account, that the present
design doesn't comply with the Branding Guidelines [1]:  The minimum 
distance between logo and surroundings (half the width of the document
symbol) seems not to be resepected on your label. 

Best regards

Bernhard




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

2011-01-31 Thread Dave Johnson
FYI I used the early 'official' logos that are provided on the wiki. I am
getting tired of the rude objections toi juste about everything It do. It is
the viger font!

Dave Johnson

On Jan 31, 2011 4:43 AM, "Dr. Bernhard Dippold" 
wrote:

Hi Stefan, Dave, all,

Thanks for pointing to the important basics for any LibO related artwork!


> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 30.01.2011 23:02, schrieb Dave Johnson:
>
> > Here is the label for my local ar...
This case is quite special because Dave mimics the original logo
by putting together the single parts of the logo (symbol and text),
whiole using them alone is allowed following the Guidelines.

What needs consideration is:

- Don't reduce the white space area around the logo to less than
1/2 the width of the symbol.

The "SM" sign is just 1/4 of the symbol's width away from the
LibreOffice text.

When the right distances are respected, the impression of a
modified logo will be reduced, as the distance allows a clear
distiction between our logo and the surroundings.

- Don't modify the logo colors.

The lower border of the symbol is covered by some kind of
grey painting - perhaps this derives from removing the gradient
in front of the logo.

Either use the contemporary logo if you want to show gradients
or use the default logo, if the symbol sould stay black.


>
> Also see the Trademark Policy
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy
Following our latest discussions with Dave, I'm quite sure
he is informed about it - especially with regards to the
differentiation between external reference to the product and
community on the one hand and representation as TDF /
community spokespeople / official provider of resources
on the other.

Very soon there will be a modified logo to be used for
external reference - probably based on this draft:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Non-TDF_logos.png

So please stay tuned...

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Personally I don't think that the colors of the blue gradient
fit very well with the LibO green, but this is nothing we need to
discuss here...





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

2011-01-31 Thread Dave Johnson
Dr. Duppold, Is thank you for your points and Is am making the changes.

Dave Johnson

On Jan 31, 2011 4:43 AM, "Dr. Bernhard Dippold" 
wrote:

Hi Stefan, Dave, all,

Thanks for pointing to the important basics for any LibO related artwork!


> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 30.01.2011 23:02, schrieb Dave Johnson:
>
> > Here is the label for my local ar...
This case is quite special because Dave mimics the original logo
by putting together the single parts of the logo (symbol and text),
whiole using them alone is allowed following the Guidelines.

What needs consideration is:

- Don't reduce the white space area around the logo to less than
1/2 the width of the symbol.

The "SM" sign is just 1/4 of the symbol's width away from the
LibreOffice text.

When the right distances are respected, the impression of a
modified logo will be reduced, as the distance allows a clear
distiction between our logo and the surroundings.

- Don't modify the logo colors.

The lower border of the symbol is covered by some kind of
grey painting - perhaps this derives from removing the gradient
in front of the logo.

Either use the contemporary logo if you want to show gradients
or use the default logo, if the symbol sould stay black.


>
> Also see the Trademark Policy
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy
Following our latest discussions with Dave, I'm quite sure
he is informed about it - especially with regards to the
differentiation between external reference to the product and
community on the one hand and representation as TDF /
community spokespeople / official provider of resources
on the other.

Very soon there will be a modified logo to be used for
external reference - probably based on this draft:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Non-TDF_logos.png

So please stay tuned...

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Personally I don't think that the colors of the blue gradient
fit very well with the LibO green, but this is nothing we need to
discuss here...





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

2011-01-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

I saw Fabien run into this problem too = 10hours work for something he should 
have been able to just grab from the wiki-website in less than 10mins!  In the 
absence of anything easy to reach on the wiki and the fast pace of development 
we can't all always stay completely informed or up-to-date about all aspects.  


As a first step i think we need to get the selection of cd/dvd labels and logos 
up on the wiki website within easy reach of everyone.  


Then the appropriate teams can work at making sure the selection gets sifted or 
tweaked into compliance and that the rules/guidelines are there for people to 
read easily.

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Dave Johnson 
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 13:47:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

FYI I used the early 'official' logos that are provided on the wiki. I am
getting tired of the rude objections toi juste about everything It do. It is
the viger font!

Dave Johnson

On Jan 31, 2011 4:43 AM, "Dr. Bernhard Dippold" 
wrote:

Hi Stefan, Dave, all,

Thanks for pointing to the important basics for any LibO related artwork!


> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 30.01.2011 23:02, schrieb Dave Johnson:
>
> > Here is the label for my local ar...
This case is quite special because Dave mimics the original logo
by putting together the single parts of the logo (symbol and text),
whiole using them alone is allowed following the Guidelines.

What needs consideration is:

- Don't reduce the white space area around the logo to less than
1/2 the width of the symbol.

The "SM" sign is just 1/4 of the symbol's width away from the
LibreOffice text.

When the right distances are respected, the impression of a
modified logo will be reduced, as the distance allows a clear
distiction between our logo and the surroundings.

- Don't modify the logo colors.

The lower border of the symbol is covered by some kind of
grey painting - perhaps this derives from removing the gradient
in front of the logo.

Either use the contemporary logo if you want to show gradients
or use the default logo, if the symbol sould stay black.


>
> Also see the Trademark Policy
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy
Following our latest discussions with Dave, I'm quite sure
he is informed about it - especially with regards to the
differentiation between external reference to the product and
community on the one hand and representation as TDF /
community spokespeople / official provider of resources
on the other.

Very soon there will be a modified logo to be used for
external reference - probably based on this draft:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Non-TDF_logos.png

So please stay tuned...

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Personally I don't think that the colors of the blue gradient
fit very well with the LibO green, but this is nothing we need to
discuss here...





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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD label

2011-01-31 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Dave, 

> FYI I used the early 'official' logos that are provided on the wiki. I am
> getting tired of the rude objections toi juste about everything It do.

I'm very sorry if you consider my comments as "rude objections".

They have never been meant to sound that way.

As mentioned earlier, we are still in a period of defining our basics.

This includes the graphical resources and the rules how to use them.
So it might be possible that the official logos are slightly modified
over the time.

It's important for LibreOffice to be consistent and professional in the 
way it is presented in public. That's the reason why we provide Branding
Guidelines [1] and why we want our trademarks to be respected.

The Trademark Policy is in a close-to-final state, allowing to use our
marks without previous single case request in the most cases.

If you wanted to sell a brown, sugared beverage you will not be allowed
to call it "Coca Cola", if it would not contain pure Coca Cola. Even if a 
set of beverages contain Coca Cola among others, you would probably
be not allowed to call them "Coca Cola set" - you would need to show 
clearly that your set is not provided by the Coca Cola company.
And if you sell pure Coke, you will notbe allowed to change the label's 
color to green.

There are rules that should be followed in our community too - and not 
following these rules might lead to negative perception in public.

So please don't feel criticized for providing feedback on our list: It's 
nearly the opposite - we just want to improve and clarify your design and
our public perception.

> It is the viger font!

The offiicial Logo font is called Vegur, but I think Stefan wanted to refer to 
the fact that you added a different subline in another font to the logo. As it 
doesn't have the necessary white space from the logo itself, it looked like it 
was part of the logo. 

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: Just to make it clear: Providing a possibility to get LibreOffice on DVD 
is a task I really apprechiate. It supports our community and the product!

[1]: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding





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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] Screenshots and wiki screenshot repository suggestion

2011-01-31 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *,

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:
>
> I am just putting this out as a couple of ideas to help ease the "search for
> that missing screenshot" statement ...
>
> 1. I would propose we open a wiki screenshot page/repository where
> screenshots appearing on the website/documentation would be kept, all
> properly categorized and annotated so that if any of these groups need a
> copy of a screenshot they could go to the wiki screenshot repository where
> there may be a copy for them to use.

This sounds like a horrible duplication. Better to organize the
screenshots into appropriate folders in the CMS in the first place...

> This could ease the amount of doubling of work where maybe one screenshot
> has already been created for one group and could be used for the other group
> needing it. It could also be used for NL groups.

Any "repository" or "index" that must be maintained manually is
creating *lots* of double work, and is doomed to get outdated very,
very quickly, so I strongly suggest to /not/ try to setup a separate
category/listing in the wiki. Either do it automatically, or don't try
to do it.

> 2. If some member(s) were interested in specialising in taking screenshots
> for the project, they could very much work as a "screenshot production
> department" where people would put in their requests for screenshots and
> they would produce these on request.

This however would be doable of course.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-marketing] Design Team Kick-Off Step 2: Current Status of Work and Collaboration

2011-01-31 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all,

this mail announces the second step of our official Design Team
Kick-Off. It is about what we've done so far, and how we did it - thus,
it aims to get everybody "on track" who is interested to join, or to
collaborate.

Current Status of Work and Collaboration:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/CurrentWorkStatus


I've CCed the other teams, since they might be interested in those
topics as well ...

Background: A few days ago, we've agreed on how to set up our Design
Team, and we've invited other parties to join - people having interest
in user experience, visual identity design, accessibility, and user
support and training. Together, we'll aim for "Make it just work, and
look great, too!"

Design Team Kick-Off Page:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off


Cheers,
Christoph

PS: Thanks to all who helped to fill / improve the content of the page.
And to everyone else, who continued to work on other topics :-)


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[libreoffice-marketing] Joining in marketing

2011-01-31 Thread Jesso Murugan
Hi All,

I am working as a Project Engineer for NRCFOSS,
(National Resource Center for Free and Open Source
Software), Gov. of India.

http://www.nrcfoss.org.in/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRCFOSS

A major part of our work is to
propagate FOSS, by
slowly making gov departments to switch to FOSS,
including FOSS in public schools, customizing FOSS
for Indian needs, and organizing FOSS workshops.

Helping libreoffice take root in India would be my
pleasure and duty as well. If any help is required,
I'll be glad to pitch in.

Regards,
Jesso Clarence Murugan,
Project Engineer,
NRCFOSS - CDAC,
Gov of India

PS : my official email id is jes...@cdac.in, I'll use
that for any official statements if needed, I'm using this
id as I've subscribed to other list also and the daily volume
is quite high

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Joining in marketing

2011-01-31 Thread Danishka Navin
Hi Jesso,


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Jesso Murugan wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am working as a Project Engineer for NRCFOSS,
> (National Resource Center for Free and Open Source
> Software), Gov. of India.
>
> http://www.nrcfoss.org.in/
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRCFOSS
>
> A major part of our work is to
> propagate FOSS, by
> slowly making gov departments to switch to FOSS,
> including FOSS in public schools, customizing FOSS
> for Indian needs, and organizing FOSS workshops.
>
> Helping libreoffice take root in India would be my
> pleasure and duty as well. If any help is required,
> I'll be glad to pitch in.
>
>
>
great to have you on board

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