Re: Custom Tablecloth Proof for GNOME Event Box
On 09/01/2011 07:08 AM, Juanjo Marín wrote: BTW, we can also think about moving one from Europe to Asia. We already talked about this last year (when the box had 'UPS-disappeared') and think it is not convenient for Asia due to transportation mode and troubles with the customs from country to country. Eventually one per country could make sense (we need to see where events happen) and should we move forward with this option I believe GNOME.Asia Summit should be able to provide funding for it. I think we'd like to have committed people in those countries with event box before moving forward though. Thank for thinking of us. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing update at AGM
On 08/09/2011 12:32 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: I could use all your help in calling out what was important and why it was so cool. * GNOME 3 * Launch parties * press * all the work Allan and Sumanah did ... Thoughts? I will be working on this later tonight ... Maybe as well: - Most successful GNOME.Asia - 1st GNOME hackfest in Asia with Release and Marketing team - Release team actually loved it and want to come back next year: it helped them to sit together and do things they wouldn't otherwise knowing that the team was there to take care of the urgent things. - Plenty of new GNOME User Groups this year in India but elsewhere as well. I think a new dynamic has been created and people have been pretty excited by GNOME 3. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Conference Propsoal: Portland Summit
On 08/03/2011 01:01 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: June July/August October GNOME.Asia - Desktop Summit - Boston Summit GNOME.Asia happens on 1st quarter around the GNOME release. It was end of March/early April this year because of the delayed schedule for GNOME 3.0. In 2012 it should be around February either before or after the GNOME release. Hope that helps. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Can we document how to do GNOME announcements, please?
On 06/09/2011 12:08 AM, Dave Neary wrote: I basically just didn't think to scroll down Well then it's probably a feedback we should incorporate into the design on the home page. Lots of people don't scroll down actually and maybe we should split that big graphic into 2/3 of the width and have 1/3 for news titles maybe? (or 3/4-1/4). Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: preparing to market GNOME 3.2
So would these bugs be considered as annoying? 1. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647441 alt key for shutdown isn't usable on tablets - but I think a lot of people have complained about it on IRC, people with only one hand could also find this a real drag (then they need to log off and then shutdown which is a lot less convenient, at least in perception). 2. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647828 screen: no option 'never' which the logic implied goes against the one above: here we say we should encourage people to save energy, while suspend by default will use some energy to keep the system status. In fact from looking at the fedora test mailing list I'm sure from the top of my head I could come up with a lot more (I just picked the ones that annoy ME - selfish isn't it?). So the real question is how do we draw the limit? Who gets to pick what's annoying and what's not? Thanks. Fred On 05/06/2011 05:32 PM, Allan Day wrote: Sumana Harihareswara wrote: According to http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne Monday will mark the end of the feature proposal discussion period for the 3.1.x development series. Once we know what sorts of improvements are going to be in 3.2 We have a good idea of what's going to be worked on. Whether it'll be ready in time is another question of course. ;) (touchscreen support, for instance?), Unlikely, by the looks of the feature page [1]. We're also waiting on other parts of the stack, if my limited understanding is correct. we can figure out what's most salient and who needs to be told about those enhancements, and start prepping our marketing plan. One thing that occurs to me - it would be nice to be tracking the small fixes and polish that are happening. It is easy to forget these changes, but they will be a big part of 3.2. It would be nice to have examples and even metrics to talk about at release time. There is a role for marketing here. The release team have included 'Fix Annoying Things' [2] as one of the 3.2 features. This is partly an exercise in PR, I believe. The ambition is to track and fix annoying (and fixable ;) ) issues have been brought up in reviews and user feedback so that, when 3.2 is released, we can say 'we fixed the annoying things you mentioned last time around'. If anybody has been following the reviews and knows of issues that have been brought up, please add them to the page [2]. We won't need as huge an effort as we had for 3.0, but we'll still be happier if we start light planning early. Five months away Allan [1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/Features/Tablets [2] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/Features/FixAnnoyingThings -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
distributions contacts - was(Re: Contractor status update: last week next steps)
On 04/15/2011 08:58 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Who are our liaisons with particular distributions? Do we have any such liaisons? Ubuntu 11.04 is out on the 28th, OpenBSD on 1 May, Fedora 15 on 24 May, Mandriva on 13 June (dates according to DistroWatch), and if we can provide them our GNOME 3 materials (screenshots, videos, FAQs, etc.). That way they can redistribute them to their users. If we don't have any particular distro liaisons, then Allan and I should find their marketing people and liaise. I suppose we have different contacts for different things. There is a distributor-list@gnome that comes to mind (though it's not quite popular - YET). I am in touch with some people but for mainly technical and packaging issues so I don't think they would be so relevant (apart from forwarding the information maybe). They are all on the distributor list now I believe. They might as well want to make their own branded materials. There was quite an active discussion on the fedora test list about the lack of Fedora branding on their current GNOME 3 version, with a people not so happy about it. And then there are the people on the advisory board representing distributions too. That's what I'm aware of on my end of the spectrum. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: new wgo and friends of gnome
On 04/13/2011 10:06 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:55, Frederic Muller fr...@gnome.org mailto:fr...@gnome.org wrote: I was actually trying to find the new page for friends of gnome and get redirected to http://www-old.gnome.org/friends/ . Which reminds me that the FOG progress bar has now also disappeared from both planet and wgo. I thought we agreed to keep it there, so is there something I can do (as in HTML/CSS stuff) make it come back? Thanks a lot. Andreas has an update to the site in the works[1] which also need the FoG videos[2] incorporated in to it. [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-January/msg7.html [2] http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/FoG/ Hey thanks! That was exactly the page I was looking for. In my little brain I thought it was already live. That's probably a problem associated with running non-stable software... Well my offer to help still stands if there is something I can do. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
Made the changes within the direction of your comments. I do however have some comments further feedback (below): On 03/24/2011 09:39 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: While I think you have a strong point about the missing message about GNOME and free software I believe a lot of people outside of the US (at least) use the expression 'Open Source' as a synonym of Free Software. People who think they are synonymous have misunderstood the substance of either free software or open source. In my experience, most often they have misunderstood the substance of free software. They have heard the idea labeled open source and they think that free software is the same idea. Teaching them the truth about this is a high priority for us. We want them to know what free software really stands for. First we have to show them it is not the same as opensource. For a lot of people opensource represents what you call Free Software. Language evolves, mentality change. Is what really matters the terminology or the intention in which people do things and care? Not using the words behind which people associate their passions is missing out on including them and not something I want to be doing. Sure we can educate them about proper English or proper history/semantic but we shouldn't either make them feel guilty or exclude them. I want them to look at the site and feel it's for them too, because it is. And I could add that the term freedom is a poorly chosen word in some context/area of the world (which has somewhat forced communities to chose OSS instead). But we're getting off topic now. :-) I prefer to unite the potentially 2 communities (assuming they are split). They aren't two communities -- they are two philosophical camps within one community. Sometimes they can work together, but they can't unite unless people change their views. We might wish to convince all open source supporters to change their views, but realistically speaking it is not likely they will. Considering the hatred from some on either side it has become 2 communities. Some definitely don't want to participate in anything associated with Free Software, while others refuse to attend anything associated with Open Source. So they both have their little groups of people highlighting the differences... Please set up your site to help educate viewers about free software and what it stands for. In fact in all the FOSS that you said should be removed they were used in the context of biggest FOSS event in xxx country which in that context is important to keep. It was not at all referring to any ideology or development methodology but to a group of conferences covering either or both thus making it important to keep it that way (I replaced with the full wordings). I just removed Open Source in the goal section as promoting Free Software also advocates for the open source development model though encompasses the bigger picture. I would be happy to hear how you would advertise in 4/5 words the session where we're trying to encourage local IT services companies to embrace free software and show them that they can run a business around it? How about... Run Your Business on Freedom Your Business deserves Freedom too I picked Boost your business with Free Software which unfortunately removes GNOME from the slogan but has the advantage to keep a fairly accurate summary of what the session is about and makes you happy too. Anyway thank you for your feedback as it definitely helped us to rewrite some sections in a much better way. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
Dear Richard, Thanks for the feedback, I launched the site on Sunday night at 3am and my phone line has been cut Monday morning at around 8am (they are working on the line...). While I've been hoping and fighting to get it back I finally had to resolve myself to go out and find a place with free Internet. I actually wanted to make changes (there was/are still a few other mistakes). And this is when my laptop fan died preventing my pc to start... we have a French expression for that which would translate into something like 'when it rains, it pours'. So 3 days later I still have no convenient Internet connection, but a brand new fan landed in my laptop chassis. I'm catching up... While I think you have a strong point about the missing message about GNOME and free software I believe a lot of people outside of the US (at least) use the expression 'Open Source' as a synonym of Free Software. I prefer to unite the potentially 2 communities (assuming they are split). And I dislike FLOSS as a term: I read LOSS in it (the fully worded version is way too long for my taste as well). Since I'm writing some of the text on the site, I get to pick ;-) Now I'll review your comments and make improvements. I would be happy to hear how you would advertise in 4/5 words the session where we're trying to encourage local IT services companies to embrace free software and show them that they can run a business around it? So thanks a lot. I'll post on the list when changes are made. Fred On 03/23/2011 01:22 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: I looked at the home page. The sponsors get more screen area than GNOME. This seems like an event to promote them more than an event to promote GNOME. The top line uses the word monetize -- a word that carries the worst fashion of today's usual mercenary attitude -- but says nothing about freedom. It does say free software, but in that context people are likely to suppose that free means gratis, and there is nothing on the home page to tell them otherwise. There needs to be something on the home page that clearly refers to freedom and shows that free means freedom. The way that I can think of is to have a graphic with various words for free: ziyou, jiyuu-na, tu do, swatantra, mukt, etc., as well as free itself. (This method is somewhat trite, so it would be nice to think of something more creative.) I looked at Who Should Attend page. It mentions 5 goals, and all those goals are good, but the most important goal -- freedom on your computer -- is missing. The page says FLOSS a few times, and free and open source once. To fully promote free software, it should always say free/libre or free/swatantra. Mentioning open source is a distraction here, so that term shouldn't be present. I looked at the speakers page. I was glad to see that you're giving a talk about software freedom. However, for each person who attends your talk, a thousand will view the home page. We need to get the message of freedom into the home page so that thousands will see it. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
Dear all, I've been told I should post more about the stuff we're doing for GNOME.Asia Summit here so here a humble attempt. We have pushed the updated website last night at 3am (luckily, since we had no Internet the whole day today) and everyone can view it at http://2011.gnome.asia . The work has been made possible thanks to the acquisition of 2 regional sponsors (regional as in Asian based) covering the commercial template (which we have slightly adapted) and the shiny brand new VPS (the site was previously hosted by one of the member of the GNOME.Asia team). All in all the preparation has been rather succesful from sponsors support to speakers attending. I'd like to thank everyone for making the trip to Bangalore for the GNOME 3.0 hackfest and the conference and the support from everyone we've contacted as well (some who can't make it). Of course we'll blog in more details very soon but in the meantime we thought we could share the news here. If you spot any typo or browser compatibility issue (the trucks @ the bottom don't work in chrome - known issue) please do let us know. Thanks to help us promote the event as well. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME.Asia lightning talk re GNOME 3 marketing
Hi! I'd say GNOME 3.0 might not be useful as we'll have zillions of talks related to GNOME 3.0. Marketing GNOME could be, but with a very specific focus as we'll also have (or should have) talks on this topic. List of currently approved talks are available here: http://2011.gnome.asia/en/p/Talks2011/ but we're still receiving new submissions. Thanks. Fred On 03/08/2011 07:45 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/2011Summit/LightningTalks Allan, or someone else who is planning on going to the Bangalore summit: want to sign up for a lightning talk about GNOME 3 or marketing GNOME? -Sumana -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: spreading the word in india and making a little money for GNOME
On 03/05/2011 02:02 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: Hi there, Swapnil Bhartiya, an enthusiastic editor and GNOME fan from Muktware.com has asked if GNOME people could write something every now and then for the site. The site has quite a nice Asian following. Swapnil will donate $15 for each article to the GNOME Foundation. It is not much but the thought counts ;-) If you want to write something, let him know on edi...@muktware.com ;-) Cheers, Jos Hey Jos! This is definitely a good timing as we'll be having a GNOME 3.0 hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit in Bangalore in about 1 month time. Would that qualify as an article? If so I'll try to draft something once I'm done with the gnome3.org map representation of the launch parties (in 2-3 days maybe). Thanks. Fred ps: apologies to Jos and editor@ for emailing twice, I initially use my wrong email account. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Speaking opportunity at SVLUG on April 6 about GNOME 3.0
No taker so far, so definitely a little help in that direction will be welcome. And the April 6 slot is still available. Thanks a lot. Fred On 02/18/2011 01:48 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: Did you get anyone? I know Luis Villa is in the area. Stormy On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Frederic Muller fr...@gnome.org mailto:fr...@gnome.org wrote: Dear all, Checking on the SVLUG schedule it seems April 6 is the date of their April's monthly meeting () and the slot is still available. Wouldn't it be nice to have someone submit a talk (http://www.svlug.org/call4speakers.php) about GNOME 3.0 and go there to present to one of the oldest and largest LUG? From the description the meetings are 2-hour technical presentations for an engineering audience, with QA. That could also be a could way to promote and launch GNOME 3.0 on the West Coast. We can definitely arrange some goodies (from the launch parties) to the speaker volunteering to give away on that day. Thanks for stepping up or forwarding the information to the relevant candidates (and letting us know). Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
On 02/15/2011 11:06 PM, Dave Neary wrote: we don't have issues with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with Freewear. I had a look at freewear and didn't feel 'seduced' by their store. They definitely bring the proximity to people from Spain if I got that straight but the store concept kinds of dilutes the GNOME brand, and definitely doesn't differentiate or show under a great light the brand compared to other FOSS projects. In fact reading the email from Ismael I was even a bit disheartened and wondered what was the value Freewear was bringing at first (though I got it later as mentioned above). Is brand dilution and positioning something we should take into consideration? Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Ambassadors
On 02/10/2011 06:36 PM, Allan Day wrote: Sumana Harihareswara wrote: As I catch up on marketing email: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:06:41 + From: Allan Dayallanp...@gmail.com To: marketing-list@gnome.org Subject: 3.0 Marketing Schedule Message-ID:1295449601.4813.13.ca...@blackbox.lan * GNOME Ambassadors - what is happening with this? What would it involve in the context of the 3.0 campaign? If it definitely isn't going to happen in time for 3.0, I'd prefer to remove it from the schedule. As far as I am aware, nothing is happening with GNOME Ambassadors. I was to lead it last year and then I flaked out due to a family emergency. Stormy, Vincent, others I developed the idea during the May marketing hackfest in Zaragoza, and I still think it would be worthwhile, but yeah, there's no time between now and GNOME 3's launch. Thanks for the clarification - I thought that was the case. Was just checking. The page is http://live.gnome.org/Ambassadors and, like Stormy, I do think it would be a valuable goal to develop more quality speakers for GNOME within the next few years. I'd be willing to lead an IRC meeting next week to discuss further; say, Tuesday the 15th, or Wed. or Thurs.? I've set up a Doodle time poll: http://www.doodle.com/7qetmix3ivuiuazh Agenda: Looking over a schedule, to be sent out as soon as I edit it Naming some candidates Naming potential mentors Should be maybe 20-30 minutes. I've added myself here. Don't think I can take a major role in this, but I'm interested to see how it progresses. Definitely seems worthwhile. Best, Allan I'm also interested. I just don't like the name of the program as I've add a few bad experiences with 'Ambassadors' from other communities. Can we find a smart name that relates more to GNOME? Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Speaking opportunity at SVLUG on April 6 about GNOME 3.0
Dear all, Checking on the SVLUG schedule it seems April 6 is the date of their April's monthly meeting () and the slot is still available. Wouldn't it be nice to have someone submit a talk (http://www.svlug.org/call4speakers.php) about GNOME 3.0 and go there to present to one of the oldest and largest LUG? From the description the meetings are 2-hour technical presentations for an engineering audience, with QA. That could also be a could way to promote and launch GNOME 3.0 on the West Coast. We can definitely arrange some goodies (from the launch parties) to the speaker volunteering to give away on that day. Thanks for stepping up or forwarding the information to the relevant candidates (and letting us know). Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Update and further action items on GNOME 3.0 launch parties
On 02/08/2011 12:02 AM, Pockey Lam wrote: On 02/02/2011 02:47 PM, Frederic Muller wrote: 6. Party marketing support: we need to make it easy for 'anyone' to host their parties and provide minimal information about GNOME 3.0. That would include providing teams with generic: - Presentations - Flyer/posters - GNOME 3.0 release Countdown (for organizers to put on their websites / blogs). If we start the countdown X days before the launch we need X+2 images with the time left on it (2 are 'party today' and 'enjoy gnome 3.0 generic message'). Description on Ubuntu's countdown is available here for reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/MaverickCountdownBanner - Web banners - We are attending / I am attending a GNOME 3.0 Launch Party! - Other ideas are welcome Task owners: none so far. Andreas has helped to finalize all the artworks for goodies, I also made a few web banners based on the nice design, they can be accessed on http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/Artworks Next step: 1. Will contact parties organizers to download the SVG files for localization and usage. 2. Work on flyer / posters / release countdown and upload them online Excellent! Maybe you could post the information on gugmasters-list@ as well, some people there might find it useful. Thanks a lot. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
www.gnome.org front page
Dear all, The t-shirt contest expired on January 31st (http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2011/01/12/gnome-t-shirt-design-contest-extended/) . what should be the next home page 'campaign'? Do we already have something in the oven and is there anything that needs help (what kind)? If not I was thinking we could have some of the followings: - GNOME 3.0 coming/discover GNOME 3 (- link to gnome3.org) - GNOME 3.0 launch party call for action - GNOME.Asia Summit ad (I'm biased on this one ;-) ) - FOG - some more generic topics to encourage contributions Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Update and further action items on GNOME 3.0 launch parties
Dear marketing team, We now have 55+ teams registered spreading over 28 countries at the time of this writing. There are still 2 weeks to register to benefit from the sponsored goodies. It is important to note that at this stage we have no party registered in Africa and only 1 in the USA. It would be appreciated if people with contacts in those places could ping friends or communities to let them know of the opportunity. The work is however far from over and I'd like to share the current todo list with tasks we're working on, and some where we have no specific owners. Tasks list: 1. Make a world map of GNOME parties where each registered team can select/edit their location on the map to guide potential visitors. Task owner: Fred 2. Email currently registered teams to get delivery information, point to the map mentioned in item 1 and keep teams updated on progress. Draft email here: https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/Registration please feel free to improve/comment. Task owner: Pockey 3. Finalize goodies design. Task owner: Andreas 4. Suppliers management (production and shipping). Task owner: Emily 5. Local dispatch: in order to save courier fee, we are looking for volunteers in different regions to help to dispatch goodies packages and send them out in their region. Task owners: - USA: Brian - Asia: Emily - Europe: we need someone, any takers? - Other places such as Central and Latin American: what's the recommended local dispatch location? 6. Party marketing support: we need to make it easy for 'anyone' to host their parties and provide minimal information about GNOME 3.0. That would include providing teams with generic: - Presentations - Flyer/posters - GNOME 3.0 release Countdown (for organizers to put on their websites / blogs). If we start the countdown X days before the launch we need X+2 images with the time left on it (2 are 'party today' and 'enjoy gnome 3.0 generic message'). Description on Ubuntu's countdown is available here for reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/MaverickCountdownBanner - Web banners - We are attending / I am attending a GNOME 3.0 Launch Party! - Other ideas are welcome Task owners: none so far. 7. Past the registration deadline to get goodies we should continue to activily market the parties (which is why web banners and good documentation will help). We'll just have to make it clear that no goodies will be shipped. At Software Freedom Day we have ~2/3 of our teams who register after the free goodies deadline FWIW. That means we could easily get around 150 teams at the rate we're going now. We should also anticipate a lot more traffic to the gnome/gnome3 website during that time. Thanks and please let us know if you feel like helping out on some specific items. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3 QA
On 01/28/2011 12:47 AM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Allan Day wrote: How about we organise this as a 'GNOME 3 User Day', with three sessions over 24 hours? If the first one (or two?) works OK and there is sufficient interest, we can turn it into a regular event. What do people think of 07:00 - 08:00, 15:00 - 16:00, 23:00 - 24:00 (UTC)? Sounds good - I have no real preferences on the hours, I don't know who's targeted specifically with 07:00 - 08:00 - is that mid afternoon Asia, early evening Australia? Cheersn Dave. Yes 7-8am would work well for Asia: India is GMT+5:30, South-East Asia GMT+6, China GMT+8 . As you can see the 2 other slots are not so optimum. And then Japan being GMT+9 can do both 7-8 and 23-24 as both falls into office hours. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME 3.0 launch party attack?
Hi! in the past 8 hours the wiki page for GNOME 3.0 launch parties has disappeared http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/ . I do subscribe to it but got no notification and history is gone. In parallel 2-3 days ago the blog post about launch parties http://pockey.dao2.com/2011/01/gnome-3-0-launch-parties-support-from-the-gnome-foundation/ was removed from the GNOME planet. Those might be 2 totally separate issues, but I'd be happy if someone could help us out restore the wiki page and investigate this weird happening. Thank you. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.0 launch party attack?
On 01/27/2011 09:11 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: Hi! in the past 8 hours the wiki page for GNOME 3.0 launch parties has disappeared http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/ . I do subscribe to it but got no notification and history is gone. In parallel 2-3 days ago the blog post about launch parties http://pockey.dao2.com/2011/01/gnome-3-0-launch-parties-support-from-the-gnome-foundation/ was removed from the GNOME planet. Those might be 2 totally separate issues, but I'd be happy if someone could help us out restore the wiki page and investigate this weird happening. Thank you. Fred After further investigation the page has been renamed to http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/Athens/TEI%20of%20Athens by George Chatzipapas, I suppose by mistake. Is it possible to prevent renaming of a page? Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.0 launch party attack?
How can I get in touch with them? Thanks a lot. Fred On 01/27/2011 09:35 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: Perhaps the sys admin team could help? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Frederic Muller fr...@gnome.org mailto:fr...@gnome.org wrote: On 01/27/2011 09:11 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: Hi! in the past 8 hours the wiki page for GNOME 3.0 launch parties has disappeared http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/ . I do subscribe to it but got no notification and history is gone. In parallel 2-3 days ago the blog post about launch parties http://pockey.dao2.com/2011/01/gnome-3-0-launch-parties-support-from-the-gnome-foundation/ was removed from the GNOME planet. Those might be 2 totally separate issues, but I'd be happy if someone could help us out restore the wiki page and investigate this weird happening. Thank you. Fred After further investigation the page has been renamed to http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/Athens/TEI%20of%20Athens by George Chatzipapas, I suppose by mistake. Is it possible to prevent renaming of a page? Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Official announcement and invitation to GNOME 3.0 Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit 2011
On 01/23/2011 08:23 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 01/22/2011 07:04 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: Le vendredi 21 janvier 2011, à 23:41 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit : So Hackfest registration is happening here: http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper and conference registration will be opening soon. What's the plan on the marketing team side? Do we have people who can go? I didn't see any replies on marketing-list to the previous mails, unless I missed something. I think can go. Sounds fun. - Andreas Hey thanks! Actually the initial plan was 5 days (plan from September), then after Gnome Bostom Summit we reduced to 3 days based on feedback from Jason and a few other people living in the US and for whom the whole trip would be a bit long. It turned out that the release team prefers 5 days so this is what we have finally chosen: 3 days + 2 optional days hackfest + 1 conference day. The first 2 days are actually the optional ones and happening in Intel office who committed for space for 20 people and the next 3 days are happening in the university (with as much space as we need) where the conference will happen as well. This way people attending 'only' 3 days can also take part in the conference and the little tour trip the following day all together. We thought that would be the best comprise fitting everyone's wishes. There is still one unknown parameter: an extra conference day. Considering we will have all those great people from marketing, release and maybe documentation (Documentation is having a hackfest in Toronto 1 week before), one day conference is very short. So based on sponsorship revenues and talks submitted we'll try to get an extra day. I hope this clarifies any misunderstanding. It is sometimes hard to go into all those details in public announcements. In anyone needs further clarification please do not hesitate to email us or drop by on #asia-summit . Thank you for all the support and we really hope to see some of you in Bangalore! Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Official announcement and invitation to GNOME 3.0 Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit 2011
On 01/23/2011 03:06 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Jan 22, 2011 12:04 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org mailto:vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le vendredi 21 janvier 2011, à 23:41 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit : So Hackfest registration is happening here: http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper and conference registration will be opening soon. What's the plan on the marketing team side? Do we have people who can go? I didn't see any replies on marketing-list to the previous mails, unless I missed something. Since the dates selected are the span of a work week I cannot go. The scheduling reprecussions would be too difficult to absorb. I would be happy to make myself available on Monday and Wednesday evening on IRC, however. If enough people can't make it and doing telepresence on a larger scale makes sense, I would be willing to take a few days off work to make that more productive. I don't think doing telepresence makes sense if there is a conference as those who would be remote would likely reduce the conference productivity as much as aid it due to synchronization overhead. What about 3 days only, from March 30th to April 1st? Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Official announcement and invitation to GNOME 3.0 Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit 2011
Dear all, We've finally finalize dates, website and announcements for the upcoming GNOME 3.0 Bangalore Hackfest followed by the GNOME.Asia Summit 2011. You can read the full announcement here http://gnome.asia/press/2011/announcement/ but in short we targeting to gather release, documentation and marketing people together to finish GNOME 3.0 under the same roof just before the release (April 6th is the release date), and using this opportunity to have the 4th edition of GNOME.Asia Summit just after in one of the software development centers of the world: Bangalore. So Hackfest registration is happening here: http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper and conference registration will be opening soon. As a side note the Gnome foundation will be providing some goodies for people organizing launch parties for GNOME 3.0 wherever they are (that would be one week later), more will be announcement very very soon! A big thank you to all the people involved and who have helped us here and there, and the prompt publication on www.gnome.org! Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME 3.0 launch parties support from the GNOME Foundation
Dear all, GNOME 3.0 will be officially released on April 6th 2011! Have you started to plan for your own GNOME 3.0 Launch Party in your region yet? Here is the good news! For those organizing a launch party, The GNOME Foundation will give away some goodies (t-shirts, balloons, stickers, other stuff) to support your events. Registration is starting now and attribution will be on a first come first serve basis and within availability. You can find more information about GNOME 3.0 at http://www.gnome3.org, more information about Launch Parties at http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty, more information to prepare your own GNOME 3.0 party at http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty/Resources and more information about the goodies at http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/Goodies . Should you have any question please use the GNOME User Groups mailing list at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list or find us on GNOME IRC servers in #gnome-love channel. Please help us spread the word and get a few launch parties in your area. Register and document your event at http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty#Locations making sure you supply a valid email address. Happy GNOME 3.0 Release Party! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: www.gnome3.org launch
On 01/18/2011 05:56 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Jason D. Clinton wrote: s/real/strong/ Well, I think the by-line is weak, and I'm not a particular fan of Made of Easy either. But the by-line is not the important thing. The important thing is: What does this new GNOME enable me to do? How will my computer experience be better? If you can come up with a by-line which conveys or evokes some answer to that, I'm all ears. Made of per^H^H^Hinspiration or Made to inspire don't really do that for me. Cheers, Dave. I kind of feel the same as Dave, but having nothing better to say I have kept quiet. I mean it's always easy to dislike something (for good or bad reasons), coming up with better however is another story. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Goodies for GNOME 3.0 launch parties
On 01/18/2011 10:18 PM, Allan Day wrote: Frederic Muller wrote: Dear marketing, Last foundation IRC meeting we touched on the Foundation approval of some budget for goodies to teams that will celebrate GNOME 3.0 on the release date. Great stuff! I'm looking forward to hearing the details of this (as well as trying to bag me some goodies)! You can find the planing document here: http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/EventSupport How shall we announce this (and where)? Planet GNOME, Identica, Twitter, www.gnome.org... any others? (I'm interested in this too.) In fact I am also interested in a more generic question which is how do we usually use our channels to announce stuff? I tried to motivate people with the T-shirt contest but didn't receive much feedback except from the people I contacted personally. How do we actually usually promote stuff outside of the GNOME community? (I thought GUGs would be a good way, but they seem a little bit sleepy ;) ). Good question! I've been thinking for a while that GNOME needs an outward facing media channel. The Planet and GNOME News are primarily places where we talk to ourselves. www.gnome.org is outward facing and has a news section, but it isn't primarily a news site (you certainly can't subscribe to it)... A blog or news site where we talk to our partners and to GNOME enthusiasts would be a great way to promote GNOME and to keep people in tune with where the project is going. It'd need volunteers if it were to become an enduring reality, of course... Allan Sorry I wasn't clear. In fact I was wondering if we had a list of contacts (as in LUGs, news sites, community sites, distributions sites) to who we were in touch with and pushing information to? as well as a 'tracking mechanism' to know for each communication item who had been contacted and not? If not I definitely don't mind starting a wiki page (though how safe is it to put a list of contacts?) and start to put the people I spam with my current GNOME information. It's probably best that the point of contact to the group we know well remains the same, but that at each 'communication item' we coordinate and spread the news outside of our gnome circle. Note that I am not sure a wiki page is the best way so please feel free to comment on the idea (if it's not already implemented in some ways). Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit announcements
Dear all, Here is a draft announcement of the 2 major upcoming events that will happen right before the GNOME 3.0 release. I hereby submit the text for your review and comments, and once we're all ok with the content, grammar and web links (I think there should be more and they should probably point to gnome.asia once it's launched - 1/2 more days). These 2 announcements should appear on gnome.org upcoming event section and on gnome.asia website. announcement start - *GNOME 3.0 Bangalore Hackfest 2011* /March 28 - April 1 2011, Bangalore, India/ We are hosting a 5 days hackfest (March 28 - April 1) for the release, documentation and marketing teams focusing on GNOME 3.0 release. This will ensure some heavy testing of the code during the last week before the official release of GNOME 3.0, as well as preparing the release to happen in an optimal way. And at the same time, it will help the marketing team to clarify messaging when needed and finalize the launch details. It is not primarily aimed at users or new contributors but we may organize some training and hands on sessions during the last 3 days of the hackfest (March 30 to April 1). Apart from that any contributor involved in the release process is strongly encourage to join. Please let us know you are coming by registering on the Bangalore Hackfest 2011 page http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011. *GNOME.Asia Summit 2011* /April 2 2011, Bangalore, India/ Right after the GNOME 3.0 Bangalore Hackfest, we will jump on the opportunity of having a lot of the GNOME developers already on site to aim for the greatest GNOME.Asia Summit of all time. Now in its forth year, GNOME.Asia Summit will have the pleasure to continue to bring GNOME to users and developers in Asia and more specifically India this year, but also to celebrate the release of GNOME 3.0 with the people who actually write the software! The event will bring the light on the GNOME desktop both from a applications and a development platform point of view, as well as strengthen the GNOME community across borders. Visitors should expect great insights into how GNOME 3.0 will transform their desktop experience, the changes and improvements under the hood and how to make the best out of this new desktop environment both from a developer and user perspective. The call for papers is already out at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper and we hope to receive a lot of submissions from the Hackfest participants. We are also finalizing our call for sponsors and, depending on the momentum, planning for an extra conference day to cover all the topics (based on available budget and paper submissions). So stay tuned and visit Gnome.asia for the latest information! announcement end - Thanks a lot. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
On 01/14/2011 05:57 AM, Jason Lo wrote: I got some more info from China, and I received some really good contact info updates from Bangalore. I will update the wiki page accordingly. Hi! I'm curious as to what feedback you got from the Bangalore group: we're currently preparing for both a GNOME 3.0 hackfest and the 4th edition of GNOME.Asia summit, their website has been down for quite some time and when asking 'around' it seems they have nothing going on. We also discovered a 'GNOME India' at http://gnome-in.sarovar.org/, so I believe all in all it's a great opportunity to wake up all those people and inject them with fresh blood. Please let us know if you know more than we do. Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.0 Hackfest + 1 day conference for the launch(in Asia)
On 01/17/2011 04:32 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Le lundi 10 janvier 2011, à 11:13 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit : On 12/14/2010 11:09 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 07:09, Frederic Mullerfr...@gnome.org mailto:fr...@gnome.org wrote: I'd like to echo the call we made to the release team here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2010-December/msg00031.html and get a consensus on which date works better around GNOME 3.0 release (April 06) for each team to have a hackfest. We've been discussing the plan since September with various members of each team (to get the 3 teams together in a hackfest before a 1 day conference to celebrate GNOME 3.0 launch with the public in Asia) though emails and at the Boston Summit. I think that only the first time frame makes sense from the marketing perspective. I see little reason to conference about marketing after the release date. But we don't *have* to have a marketing hackfest. If other dates work better for other teams, feel free to opt for those. Dear Documentation, Marketing and Release teams, We've been moving forward with the conference preparation (in Bangalore) and we now need to pick the best possible date for everyone. We have potentially identified 2 options for the hackfest + conference dates, based on the survey and discussions with all the party involved: The conference should be on a weekend to get most people involved, and the hackfest before the release date (April 6) and spreading over 5 days, having 2 optional days for people who feel 3 days would be too short. That gives us either: 1. Wednesday March 30th to Friday April 1st: hackfest with 2 optional days on Monday 28th, and Tuesday 29th March Saturday 2nd April: GNOME.Asia Summit 2011 (conference day) 2. Wednesday April 6th to Friday April 8th: hackfest with 2 optional days on Monday 4th, and Tuesday 5th April Saturday 9th April: GNOME.Asia Summit 2011 (conference day) Of course any feedback on those dates is welcome and hopefully we can find a good timing for all teams to prepare and get GNOME 3.0 out together. We discussed this at the release team meeting yesterday, and here's our opinion. In both cases, I'd think we'd likely want the full week for the hackfest. Option 2 (4-8 April) is less useful than option 1 (28-1st), since we believe the best opportunity is to have r-t marketing people together to work on the final details before the release. By doing the hackfest the week before the release, the release team could do some heavy testing of the code during the last week, as well as preparing the release to happen in an optimal way. And at the same time, it could help the marketing team to clarify messaging when needed. If option 2 is chosen, then we could work on the release itself, but the last few days of the hackfest wouldn't be really useful since they're after the release itself. In the release team, Andre, Frédéric Péters and myself could possibly go (assuming sponsorship from the Foundation). Cheers, Vincent Dear Vincent, Thank you very much for the response and commitment from your team to support the event. We will definitely target for the 1st option unless the local team comes up with an unreconcilable issue. We're actually IRC meeting today (Tuesday 18th) and should be able to confirm the date and get back to everyone. Thank you. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.0 Hackfest + 1 day conference for the launch(in Asia)
On 01/17/2011 04:32 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Le lundi 10 janvier 2011, à 11:13 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit : On 12/14/2010 11:09 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 07:09, Frederic Mullerfr...@gnome.org mailto:fr...@gnome.org wrote: I'd like to echo the call we made to the release team here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2010-December/msg00031.html and get a consensus on which date works better around GNOME 3.0 release (April 06) for each team to have a hackfest. We've been discussing the plan since September with various members of each team (to get the 3 teams together in a hackfest before a 1 day conference to celebrate GNOME 3.0 launch with the public in Asia) though emails and at the Boston Summit. I think that only the first time frame makes sense from the marketing perspective. I see little reason to conference about marketing after the release date. But we don't *have* to have a marketing hackfest. If other dates work better for other teams, feel free to opt for those. Dear Documentation, Marketing and Release teams, We've been moving forward with the conference preparation (in Bangalore) and we now need to pick the best possible date for everyone. We have potentially identified 2 options for the hackfest + conference dates, based on the survey and discussions with all the party involved: The conference should be on a weekend to get most people involved, and the hackfest before the release date (April 6) and spreading over 5 days, having 2 optional days for people who feel 3 days would be too short. That gives us either: 1. Wednesday March 30th to Friday April 1st: hackfest with 2 optional days on Monday 28th, and Tuesday 29th March Saturday 2nd April: GNOME.Asia Summit 2011 (conference day) 2. Wednesday April 6th to Friday April 8th: hackfest with 2 optional days on Monday 4th, and Tuesday 5th April Saturday 9th April: GNOME.Asia Summit 2011 (conference day) Of course any feedback on those dates is welcome and hopefully we can find a good timing for all teams to prepare and get GNOME 3.0 out together. We discussed this at the release team meeting yesterday, and here's our opinion. In both cases, I'd think we'd likely want the full week for the hackfest. Option 2 (4-8 April) is less useful than option 1 (28-1st), since we believe the best opportunity is to have r-t marketing people together to work on the final details before the release. By doing the hackfest the week before the release, the release team could do some heavy testing of the code during the last week, as well as preparing the release to happen in an optimal way. And at the same time, it could help the marketing team to clarify messaging when needed. If option 2 is chosen, then we could work on the release itself, but the last few days of the hackfest wouldn't be really useful since they're after the release itself. In the release team, Andre, Frédéric Péters and myself could possibly go (assuming sponsorship from the Foundation). Cheers, Vincent Dear Vincent, Thank you very much for the response and commitment from your team to support the event. We will definitely target for the 1st option unless the local team comes up with an unreconcilable issue. We're actually IRC meeting today (Tuesday 18th) and should be able to confirm the date and get back to everyone. Thank you. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Goodies for GNOME 3.0 launch parties
Dear marketing, Last foundation IRC meeting we touched on the Foundation approval of some budget for goodies to teams that will celebrate GNOME 3.0 on the release date. How shall we announce this (and where)? In fact I am also interested in a more generic question which is how do we usually use our channels to announce stuff? I tried to motivate people with the T-shirt contest but didn't receive much feedback except from the people I contacted personally. How do we actually usually promote stuff outside of the GNOME community? (I thought GUGs would be a good way, but they seem a little bit sleepy ;) ). Thanks a lot for your feedback. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Q4 Updates Due
On 01/14/2011 03:47 AM, Brian Cameron wrote: * GNOME Asia Hackfest in Bangalore, IN, (March 30 - April 3, 2011) Sorry for the late feedback. I've been kicked off the Internet as my land line is down since Wednesday. :( Shouldn't the hackfest be called GNOME 3.0 Hackfest since this will be the scope of the hackfest? Thank you. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Q4 Updates Due
On 01/12/2011 04:15 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Conferences: Desktop summit 2011 will be held in August 6 - August 12th in Berlin. The web page is now live and is accessible from http://www.desktopsummit.org/. A shame that the Sponsorship opportunities document has been produced with Mac OS X 10.6.2 Quartz, one would have expected Scribus to be used on either GNOME or KDE (or that the information be removed from the pdf file). Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Desktop Summit Sponsorship document - was(Re: Q4 Updates Due)
On 01/12/2011 05:45 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Frederic Muller wrote: A shame that the Sponsorship opportunities document has been produced with Mac OS X 10.6.2 Quartz, one would have expected Scribus to be used on either GNOME or KDE (or that the information be removed from the pdf file). Yes, indeed - but when we use a designer for documents, they will use the tools they use. We do prefer to use designers who use free tools, but there are not that many out there. Cheers, Dave. Is it possible to get the source files (it was done under Scribus apparently) and pdf-ize it under GNOME then? (or have the desktop information removed? I still believe it would look better. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Desktop Summit Sponsorship document - was(Q4 Updates Due)
On 01/12/2011 09:15 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 01/12/2011 01:45 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: http://www.desktopsummit.org/sponsors/DesktopSummit2011_SponsorshipOpportunities.pdf I did that in Scribus on GNOME 2.30 (Ubuntu 10.10). Oh, and in case I get hit by a bus: http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/desktop-summit-folder.zip (is there a better place I should upload this too?) - Andreas After further checking and a discussion on #marketing with Andreas it appears the original pdf document included in the zip file doesn't have that MAC OS X stamping. There was apparently some words being cut off on page 8 and someone re-edited the sla file and regenerated the pdf probably on a MAC. What should we do now then? I don't mind redoing the changes (I'll check if there isn't anything else) and the export, but where should I send it to? Or does it make more sense for someone else to do that? Thank you. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
On 01/11/2011 12:22 PM, Jason Lo wrote: So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason From what I know, both the Beijing and Taiwan GUG meet monthly (Taiwan GUG meeting has been in Taipei so far). Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.0 Hackfest + 1 day conference for the launch(in Asia)
On 12/14/2010 11:09 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 07:09, Frederic Muller fr...@gnome.org mailto:fr...@gnome.org wrote: I'd like to echo the call we made to the release team here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2010-December/msg00031.html and get a consensus on which date works better around GNOME 3.0 release (April 06) for each team to have a hackfest. We've been discussing the plan since September with various members of each team (to get the 3 teams together in a hackfest before a 1 day conference to celebrate GNOME 3.0 launch with the public in Asia) though emails and at the Boston Summit. I think that only the first time frame makes sense from the marketing perspective. I see little reason to conference about marketing after the release date. But we don't *have* to have a marketing hackfest. If other dates work better for other teams, feel free to opt for those. Dear Documentation, Marketing and Release teams, We've been moving forward with the conference preparation (in Bangalore) and we now need to pick the best possible date for everyone. We have potentially identified 2 options for the hackfest + conference dates, based on the survey and discussions with all the party involved: The conference should be on a weekend to get most people involved, and the hackfest before the release date (April 6) and spreading over 5 days, having 2 optional days for people who feel 3 days would be too short. That gives us either: 1. Wednesday March 30th to Friday April 1st: hackfest with 2 optional days on Monday 28th, and Tuesday 29th March Saturday 2nd April: GNOME.Asia Summit 2011 (conference day) 2. Wednesday April 6th to Friday April 8th: hackfest with 2 optional days on Monday 4th, and Tuesday 5th April Saturday 9th April: GNOME.Asia Summit 2011 (conference day) Of course any feedback on those dates is welcome and hopefully we can find a good timing for all teams to prepare and get GNOME 3.0 out together. Thank you and looking forward to your responses. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Excellent! Great to see this task moving as it should be an important piece of our marketing and outreach efforts. I would replace open source by free and open source to make the email more inclusive, especially since GNOME is part of the GNU project (www.gnome.org/about/ ). If you need any help getting 'faster' responses with the GUGs in Asia please let me know as this is an area where I should be able to help. Thank you very much for your time and commitment. Fred On 01/04/2011 09:05 AM, Jason Lo wrote: I went and added a subsection with an email template based off Dave's. Any comments or suggestions? http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups#Template_Email On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org wrote: I agree with Dave Neary's points. I also think showing that you are going to follow up and record the information might encourage people to take your request seriously. Maybe create the wiki page beforehand and populate it with all the information you have? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net mailto:ak...@gmx.net wrote: This assumes that the GUG has a leader, however I have the feeling that some GUGs listed are just mailing lists without a defined internal hierarchy? Maybe one piece of information is how many people are signed up on the mailing list and how active it is, i.e. how many mails/month? The sys admin team can probably help gather any information that's not public (like number of people on the list). Stormy -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Google Code In::GNOME User Groups: Update contact details
Dear Ognyan, Which tasks are you referring to? If the one in the subject, Dave should be the point of contact, though I really don't mind helping you out if Dave is ok. Also note my family name is Muller without a 'e'. It's quite a common surname with various spellings (Mueller, Müller and Muller) and it's easy to end up talking with someone else. So what can I do for you? Fred ps: I can also find me on IRC on the GNOME channel, my nick is blug_fred On 12/23/2010 10:44 PM, Ognyan Angelov wrote: Hello, Fred Mueller? I was Told to contact you as first step. Regards! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Google Code In::GNOME User Groups: Update contact details
Thanks for the clarification, I'll then be waiting for any other question that Ognyan may have. Maybe Ognyan should also send such an introductory email to the GUG mailing list (even if it's very quiet) as a 'warming up' to tell them he is coming to get them! ;-) Fred On 12/23/2010 11:16 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, (ahem) Allow me to give some context. Ognyan, the task is intended to get you working with the marketing team to get a concrete result - so I was hoping you might present yourself, and what you understood the task to be. Ognyan Angelov wrote: Fred Mueller? I was Told to contact you as first step. Ognyan is a student who has taken on the Google Code-In task of updating our list of GNOME user groups worldwide. The task description is: Contact all GNOME user groups listed on the UserGroups wiki page. Ensure that we know the name of a person who is the primary contact person for the group. Update the user group information based on feedback, including membership size, events attended, group actions, etc. Broadcast more widely your task, to potentially find out about (and encourage the creation of) other user groups. A world map of coverage of GNOME user groups would be a nice touch (could be like a travel map). I asked Ognyan to contact this list to state his intention to work on the task, co-ordinate with Fred, who I know is already working on this, and work through this list. I also want to avoid a repeat of what happened last time, when a student sent an unreviewed, unsolicited email to all the contacts listed in the page, and then didn't finish the task, without ever giving a progress report. Ognyan, meet the GNOME marketing team. GNOME marketing team, Ognyan. Cheers, Dave. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Two Release Party wikipages
Yes, Pockey or/and myself can work on it. Which URL shall we keep? Fred On 12/20/2010 07:41 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: People currently add GNOME 3.0 Release Party plans (some good ones, and some totally vague ones) to two wikipages: http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty http://live.gnome.org/Gnome%203%20Release%20Splash Does somebody have time to check/compare content and merge them (and write that concrete info should be added, instead of a $Country, some pub in a city I didn't mention? andre -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Two Release Party wikipages
On 12/20/2010 08:11 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Montag, den 20.12.2010, 20:05 +0800 schrieb Frederic Muller: Yes, Pockey or/and myself can work on it. Which URL shall we keep? Fred On 12/20/2010 07:41 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: People currently add GNOME 3.0 Release Party plans (some good ones, and some totally vague ones) to two wikipages: http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty http://live.gnome.org/Gnome%203%20Release%20Splash Does somebody have time to check/compare content and merge them (and write that concrete info should be added, instead of a $Country, some pub in a city I didn't mention? andre Don't know, but to me Release Splash does not tell anything. I thought of a splash screen when I saw the URL. andre Ok we'll do that by tomorrow hopefully. Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
On 12/16/2010 01:21 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear all, Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around the world. What we have tested so far: Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick? I'm surprised Ekiga didn't work. Have you asked in #ekiga on IRC? Those guys are pretty good in helping. Gosh all this fail in video conferencing depresses me. I remember looking for such a solution for Linux Plumbers Conference. We had gotten a government official as a keynote (which ultimately fell through) and he would only do it via video conferencing. I knew then that our video conferencing fu is not very strong and that was a year ago as it was nearly impossible to find something that would work especially following the standard video conferencing protocols that the government was using. Meh. Talk to Zaheer, he might know as well. He's been doing some work with setting up Fluendo (although he no longer works for them). I'm not aware of anybody else doing anything with video conferencing. But it's a big hole in free desktops. sri Well it seems there is maybe a (discontinued) project called MPEG4IP http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/ which explains how to built a sound/video streaming system. It's a bit more complicated but could work. I'll continue search in that direction and see what can easily be deployed. I guess a page listing all the available streams on that day would work very well too. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME 3.0 Hackfest + 1 day conference for the launch(in Asia)
Dear marketing and documentation team, I'd like to echo the call we made to the release team here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2010-December/msg00031.html and get a consensus on which date works better around GNOME 3.0 release (April 06) for each team to have a hackfest. We've been discussing the plan since September with various members of each team (to get the 3 teams together in a hackfest before a 1 day conference to celebrate GNOME 3.0 launch with the public in Asia) though emails and at the Boston Summit. We have received 3 great proposals with a competitive budget from Bangalore, Bali and Hong Kong and will be supported by the GNOME Foundation for people who need travel subsidies. We are doing a final review today. So it is definitely time for us to try to agree on a good date for everyone. Thank you to let us know. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: The GNOME Foundation blog
Very nice theme! that would definetely rock! Fred On 12/14/2010 11:18 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: I'll look into this. I think it should be pretty simple, as we're doing http://wptest.gnome.org/ all in wordpress, and it's just a matter of reusing the theme vinicious did for that. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
T-shirt contest and GNOME Friends promotion
Dear all, I'm cross posting since I guess the 3 lists might reach different people. I would like to follow up on that last foundation IRC meeting and highlight one of the point we talked about: T-shirt contest and GNOME Friends promotion. Each of us can do our little part and post a badge on their BLOG and user group, should it be a GNOME or Linux or Free Software User Group (o any other kind as long as it makes sense). We're aiming at getting 400 new FoG as soon as possible (maybe we could pick a deadline). Badges can be found at this page: http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html The other things which would be nice is to write a post and place it of the front page of your blog/user group about the T-shirt contest. This can definitely be a news for your group. Following the IRC meeting 3 UG have already done. It's not much but it's a start. You can check those for reference: User Groups http://www.bjgug.org/ (in Chinese) http://gnome.tw/project (in Chinese) http://www.beijinglug.org/ (English) (discussing with Phnom Penh LUG, Qingdao LUG and Moonos - a GNOME distribution) Blogs: http://pockey.dao2.com (on Planet GNOME) http://fred.dao2.com (not on planet GNOME) We've also discussed about creating some slides for UGs about GNOME in general and finding topics anyone could present. If someone is interest or has any existing content which could be adapted let's start page below http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups . One of the first idea what to present FoG and what The GNOME Foundation does with those founds, how it helps making GNOME GNOME . I think I unofficially got this one assigned to me. ;-) Any other innovative idea welcome. Thanks a lot for your help, any small effort matters. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Learning from the best
Hi! For me I think half of the size would have been ok. The style is a but pompous and that part really killed it The weekly email newsletters are extremely good, with links to a whole host of excellent articles and tutorials, notifications of events and training opportunities. Basically the guy loves spam weird. I doubt our user base does (I could be wrong). So something less 'advertorial', straight to the point and half of the size would make sense I believe. In fact there are so many things to do and so little time... Actually I was told to initiate an IRC meeting about our marketing activities about 1-2 week(s) ago. I'd be interested to have a discussion about the following items if anybody is interested: - General marketing plan - Current perception of GNOME 3.0 and how to improve issues - Using GUGs - Being briefed on all the on-going efforts (*cough*) - anything else people would like to add I know we have some Google Codein marketing tasks, I'm currently checking with Dave how to see all task as apparently started tasks don't appear in the list. There is surely more to this, but it could be a good start. Thanks and looking forward to hear from you guys. Fred On 12/08/2010 06:57 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Jason D. Clinton wrote: But it fails in the attention span category. Uh... sorry? I wasn't listening. ;) I disagree. In a world of twitter blogs soundbites YouTube, there is a place for personal stories, and well thought out articles, and books. You don't always have to appeal to the lowest common denominator. We can't do marketing as though we're writing placement-paid Reader's Digest articles. This is the age of 140 character essays (saw that one this morning from El Goog) and play-em off kitty viral videos. The article I linked to doesn't sound like an infomercial (much). It sounds like a regular guy doing regular stuff who found the Linux Foundation helpful enough he decided to pay a membership. And, uhm, don't we also want to appeal to people like that? Now, I'll admit, I'm no communications professional (although I am teaching students in communications this year) but then, neither are you. So maybe it's worthwhile for both of us to figure out why Jennifer is pushing articles like this, how she goes about it, and what the result is? Cheers, Dave. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GDM themes
Hi guys! If I understand correctly current GDM screens can only support background image change. Following a question (which didn't get answered) on the #gnome channel, we might want to mention that http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter is only for GDM 1.x ? Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Letter announcing LWN benefit to our subscribers
Hi Og! It was great meeting you during the hackfest. Here is my little contribution to your first draft, now in v0.2 === Dear Friend of GNOME, Friends of GNOME started not so long ago with the objective of diversifying the GNOME foundation sources of incomes and getting independent funding from on our own community of users and developers. Thanks to the support of people like yourself, we have managed to sponsor xx hackfests in 2 years including the Boston Summit earlier this month, allowing over 70 GNOME developers to get together to make GNOME 3.0 better, and plan for the future of GNOME. [-- I need to discuss further with Andreas and Paul as they seem more familiar with all the recent achievements --]. As a token of our gratitude, we are now offering current and new subscribers a FREE annual subscription to LWN, the best and most accurate news source for Free Software, written weekly by real kernel hackers and community contributors. It is our way to let you know that we value your unwavering loyalty and support, and go out of way to make your support mutually beneficial. In order for you to receive your complementary subscription, simply reply to this email stating your interest and we will email you instructions on how to proceed and activate your account. You have allowed us to do so much more and GNOME wouldn't be quite where it is today without you. Please do let us know if you have further suggestion that would enhance the program. Warm regards, The GNOME Foundation = Fred My take On 11/18/2010 08:14 AM, Og Maciel wrote: Hi folks, So today, thanks to Rosanna, I received 100 subscription codes for LWN. As some of you may already know, we're offering free, annual subscriptions to our current and future FoG subscribers. I want to send out an email to each one of them (97 active subscriptions is the number I came up with so far) and was wondering if someone wants to help me with the text itself? Something like: === Dear Friend of GNOME, Friends of GNOME started not so long ago with the objective of... Thanks to the support of people like yourself, we have managed to sponsor blah blah blah. As a token of our gratitude, we are now offering current and new subscribers a FREE annual subscription to LWN, [say something about LWN here and why it is so cool to get a subscription]. It is our way to let you know that we value your unwavering loyalty and support, blah blah. In order for you to receive your complementary subscription, simply reply to this email stating your interest and we will email you instructions on how to proceed and activate your account. [Closing paragraph] The GNOME Foundation === Thanks in advance, -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: review request: GNOME marketing flyer for new users in less economically developed countries.
On 11/16/2010 06:15 PM, Ben Konrath wrote: Hi Andreas, On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Andreas Nilssonnisses.m...@home.se wrote: That looks really great, excellent work! I would advice to export the icons as bitmaps and then add them to the document as such, that way you can be sure that they render correctly. Make sure to embed them rather than link them though. Another way is to try and use simpler icons. I found out that the rendering problems come from a bug in evince / poppler. The files render properly in acroread so I've decided to keep them as SVG. I would like the highest quality I can get for printing. The updated files are linked on the gnome marketing wiki but I'll list them here too. PDFs: http://www.bagu.org/gnome/gnome-dev-world-brochure-with-fold-marks-v4.pdf http://www.bagu.org/gnome/gnome-dev-world-brochure-v4.pdf Inkscape SVGs: http://www.bagu.org/gnome/gnome-dev-world-flyer-p1-with-fold-marks.svg http://www.bagu.org/gnome/gnome-dev-world-flyer-p2-with-fold-marks.svg The PDF with fold marks should be used if you're folding the brochure by hand. The PDF without the fold marks should be used if you're using a printer or folding machine to automatically fold the brochure. The SVG files have the fold marks included but the marks should be removed when generating PDFs for use with automatic folding machines. Cheers, Ben Hi! Sorry for the late feedback. I do have a few comments: 1. The green background is quite blurry giving a potential sub-par impression on the display quality of the GNOME desktop. Maybe a plain color or gradient background would fix this. 2. Remaining typo in mobile phones section, 2nd sentence: you get get the... 3. Accessibility: I would try to rephrase the paragraph without the word 'disabilities' and emphasizing on 'unconditional access' or 'access for everyone'. I am not a native speaker, but if needed, can give it a try. 4. No Serial Numbers: having lived in the developing world for the past 15 years, serial numbers are never an issue: they actually come on the CD with the pirated copy of whatever proprietary software you decide to use. Maybe replacing that section with all the productivity, graphic/artistic, fun/games, and web applications available for GNOME might make the space usage more compelling. Then again it might depend on the audience but from my experience I've never met any developing world government who was concerned about internal piracy (ymmv). 5. Joining GNOME: I would probably add something more dynamic like mentioning that it's fun, you make lots of friends and you get to learn of a lot of (new) stuff which could get you a job. Again not being a native speaker doesn't make me the ideal candidate to rewrite this section but let me know if you can't find anyone else. 6. joining GNOME user groups: unfortunately there are a lot more LUGs than GNOME user group and only recommending to visit GUG limits the possibilities for our target audience. I'd mention any Free Software group such a *nix UG, Free Software groups and others (including GUGs) as they will encounter the GNOME experience in any of those. 7. You might mention somewhere in the bottom made with GNOME? 8. It'd be nice to have a native speaker reduce word repetitions and help produce a better phrased document. (9.) As a side note I don't think Linux is the best platform for multimedia playback or encoding (not something I'd put forward anyway) but I suppose we can allow ourselves to embellish the reality... Of course you might not agree with everything I wrote... ;-) Let me know if I can do anything to help. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.0 official logo and banners
On 11/15/2010 05:38 PM, Juanjo Marín wrote: --- El *lun, 15/11/10, Pockey Lam /pockey...@gnome.org/* escribió: De: Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org Asunto: Re: GNOME 3.0 official logo and banners Para: marketing-list@gnome.org Fecha: lunes, 15 de noviembre, 2010 10:11 On 11/15/2010 04:45 PM, Juanjo Marín wrote: There are some requests in http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/ but they are maked as open. There are some suggestions for this material though, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/GNOME3Logo but it isn't definitive at all. Thanks for pointing out those useful info to me! There are indeed a lot of good ideas already. To match with GNOME 3.0, I like Campaign #1 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeThreeBrainstorming/MarketingCampaign1 (Campaign: Fundamentally Different) and this logo http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/GNOME3Logo?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=Gnome3Logo.png http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/ArtRequests/GNOME3Logo?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=Gnome3Logo.png I guess the marketing team should approach the art team for get this done :) We can discuss a little bit about the message we want on this banners. What the team think ? As we have been starting to talk to different communities all over the world to promote GNOME 3.0 and ask them to host a launch party locally, yeah, let's discuss now so we can give them logos and banners to post at their websites and link back to our gnome 3.0 page. Besides, I searched facebook page and there is no gnome 3.0 group yet but found a 1 member group named I hate GNOME 3.0 we need a new desktop environment for linux , so I just started one: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_141747095876340ap=1 http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_141747095876340ap=1 (I am not really a fans of facebook but we cannot ignore social network power for marketing...) I wonder if makes sense to create some banners with screenshots of gnome-shell. Ubuntu has this kind of banners for Unity. http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=7235424%40N02q=unity+bannersm=text We should start the competition at marketing level ;) Well I guess we should start asking people to put banners to their blogs and present at their local Linux User Groups. GNOME Shell is pretty stable at the moment (well my experience, ymmv). Having people starting to explain the differences, showcase and explain how to install from git all over the world right now would be nice and helpful to start building critical mass for release date and target a less geeky audience. Fred Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin PS: I CC this message to the art team list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing hackfest next year
On 11/12/2010 04:14 AM, Brian Cameron wrote: Jason: We need to have another marketing hackfest in preparation for the GNOME 3.0 launch. This will be entirely work-oriented. The date ranges available for this are the two weeks immediately following the UI freeze: February 26th - March 13th. Please reply to this email with your availability: where can you travel and what dates are you available? The GNOME.Asia community was been planning to host a hackfest that coincides with the GNOME 3.0 release. The point of their hackfest was to get people together to work on tasks that need to get done in association with the launch. Would it make sense to plan to do such marketing hackfest work at the GNOME.Asia 3.0 launch hackfest? http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/2011Summit Their current plans have been to have their event a bit later (early April), but it seems worth discussing with them. I imagine they would consider moving their event earlier if that would better fit in with the needs of relevant groups such as the Marketing team. At any rate, some discussion with them to determine how marketing hackfest plans should be coordinated seems appropriate. There may be opportunities to do some different marketing things at both events if we decide to keep them separate events, for example. Brian Hi! Having participated in the discussion during the Boston Summit and being a member of GNOME.Asia it seemed the participants in Boston needed both hackfests: one around the freeze period and one during the launch. As you might all know by now we have a pre-event survey up since about 3 weeks and received very good feedbacks to help us prepare. We are however definitely happy to collaborate with other events or share our plans with anyone interested to do something for the launch period. @Jason: please don't hesitate to get in touch with us either on or off the list. Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
