[Marxism] Fwd: Argentina Prosecutor Who Accused Kirchner Had Steady Contact With US Embassy, Leaked Cables Show | VICE News

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[Marxism] Fwd: EU wins Greek backing to extend Russia sanctions, delays decision on new steps | Reuters

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Now, it would seem that the geopolitical/chess game left is ready to 
throw Syriza under the bus. The battle against austerity matters less 
than how Tsipras stands on sanctions. Just look at MRZine that is 
festooned today with anti-Syriza tweets.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/29/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSKBN0L22B720150129
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[Marxism] Archbishop Atallah Hanna: 'We Palestinian Christians say Allahu Akbar'

2015-01-31 Thread Joseph Catron via Marxism
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Following some recent silliness about this phrase on the list, I thought
others might find this interview of His Eminence interesting:

http://rt.com/op-edge/227871-palestinian-orthodox-christian-bishop

I've heard Arab atheists chant it at rallies too. In a lot of contexts,
it's really just a thing you say, like bless you after someone sneezes.

-- 
Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen
lytlað.
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[Marxism] Fwd: Academic publishing and scholarly communication: a status report | Harvard Magazine Jan-Feb 2015

2015-01-31 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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The first scholarly journals appeared in 1665, and since then, they have 
not paid authors, peer reviewers, or editors. “All the key players have 
been giving away their work for 350 years,” says Suber. “Scholars write 
journal articles for impact, not for money. They are freed to do this 
because they have salaries from their institutions.” Yet the physical 
aspects of print technology, still cutting-edge in the seventeenth 
century, today limit scholars’ ability to circulate their ideas and 
findings. Now, Suber says, “the Internet allows them to give it away to 
the whole world.”


Some peer-reviewed research may involve a microscopically small topic 
that interests only a handful of people worldwide. “There is no market 
value in that,” Suber notes. “If academics had to focus on what might 
sell, rather than what might be true, they would find themselves writing 
more on popular subjects and less on their research specializations. 
Tenure protects you from being fired for voicing unpopular ideas. Open 
access protects you from the market. You can write what you think is 
true, even on a very small topic or on something, like evolution, that 
angers people.”


full: 
http://harvardmagazine.com/2015/01/the-wild-west-of-academic-publishing#article-images

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[Marxism] Fwd: Julian Assange - Google Is Not What It Seems

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https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/
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[Marxism] Fwd: Miners demonstrate in Kyiv, warn of further actions | Observer Ukraine

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Speaking to the demonstrators Mykhailo Volynets, head of the Independent 
Mine Workers union, said the government is now adding to its dependence 
on Russia for nuclear fuel and natural gas with the purchase of coal and 
of electricity from Russia as well. At the same time it is closing down 
the mines still under its control. Buying electricity from Russia at the 
agreed price of 2.9 kopeks/Kwh will lead to high prices for ordinary 
people for public transport, electricity, hot water and heating, as well 
as for basic consumer goods.


full: 
http://observerukraine.net/2015/01/30/miners-demonstrate-in-kyiv-warn-of-further-actions/

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[Marxism] Fwd: Millions of gallons of BP oil found resting on the Gulf floor - Salon.com

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[Marxism] Greece election result brings hope to Palestinians

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http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ru/contents/articles/originals/2015/01/palestinian-state-abbas-hamas-welcome-greek-elections.html#
Greece election result brings hope to Palestinian

http://jordantimes.com/greek-elections-and-the-region

Greek elections and the region

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[Marxism] Fwd: Israel and the Jewish Brown Shirts Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-תיקון עולם

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http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2015/01/31/israeli-border-police-breaks-palestinian-womens-arm/
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[Marxism] Fwd: In Strategic Shift, U.S. Draws Closer to Yemeni Rebels - WSJ

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America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests.

--Henry Kissinger

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Washington’s outreach to the Houthis, who in January routed forces loyal 
to President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi, a close American ally, represents 
a contrast from years of U.S. support for the Hadi government, which the 
Houthis have opposed.


full: 
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[Marxism] Greece Signals Unwillingness to Cooperate With Auditors

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NY Times, Jan. 31 2015
Greece Signals Unwillingness to Cooperate With Auditors
By NIKI KITSANTONIS

ATHENS — The new Greek finance minister used a joint appearance with a 
top eurozone official on Friday to insist that Greece would no longer 
cooperate with auditors representing its international creditors and 
would not seek an extension to the country’s bailout program.


The remarks came after the finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, and 
Jeroen Dijsselbloem, president of the eurozone group of 19 finance 
ministers, engaged in the first unofficial negotiations regarding the 
bailout after Greek elections on Sunday, which put a coalition led by a 
leftist anti-austerity party in power.


The talks, held at the Finance Ministry here, yielded no decisions on 
Greece’s agreements with the so-called troika of international 
creditors: the European Central Bank, the International Monetary Fund 
and the European Commission. The men indicated, however, that there was 
a willingness for cooperation on both sides.


Continue reading the main story
RELATED COVERAGE

“All we’re asking is for,” Yanis Varoufakis said, “is an opportunity to 
put together a proposal that will minimize the costs of Greece’s loan 
agreement and give this country a chance to breathe again after policies 
that created massive social depravity.”Greece’s Feisty Finance Minister 
Tries a More Moderate MessageJAN. 29, 2015
“We share common interests with Greece,” Mr. Djisselbloem said, and Mr. 
Varoufakis said the conversation had taken place in an “excellent climate.”


But Mr. Varoufakis’s description of the troika’s committee of auditors 
as “anti-European” toward the end of the news conference clearly ruffled 
Mr. Dijsselbloem, who shook his head before quickly shaking hands with 
his interlocutor and striding out of the room.


For his part, Mr. Dijsselbloem rejected the Greek government’s call for 
a conference to examine relief or a write-down of the country’s debt, 
remarking that an arena for discussion already exists.


Can Greece's Anti-Austerity Government Succeed?JAN. 27, 2015
“It’s called the Eurogroup,” he said, referring to the eurozone group of 
finance ministers. Mr. Dijsselbloem warned against “unilateral steps,” 
saying that “ignoring existing agreements is not the road to follow.”


“Progress has been made in Greece,” he added. “We must not lose that 
progress.”


Mr. Varoufakis said that he was open to reforms to restore the country’s 
competitiveness but that he would not accept “the continuation of a 
self-fueled crisis” of deflation and unsustainable debt that have 
resulted from the austerity measures imposed as part of a bailout of 240 
billion euros ($270 billion). He also said he looked forward to a new 
agreement “that will allow Greece to breathe.”


In an interview with The New York Times on Thursday, Mr. Varoufakis said 
his government did not want a pending €7 billion installment of the 
bailout package that the country needs to pay down bonds coming due by 
August.


Mr. Dijsselbloem said the sides would reach an agreement before the 
expiration of the European portion of Greece’s bailout package on Feb. 
28. The International Monetary Fund portion is set to expire in spring 2016.


The previous, conservative-led government secured an agreement with 
creditors in December to extend the European portion until the end of 
February. Failure to extend the bailout terms could jeopardize the 
access of Greece’stroubled banks to financing from the European Central 
Bank, which has said it will guarantee liquidity only if the country 
reaches an agreement with its creditors.


Mr. Varoufakis said his government would not seek a bailout extension.

“Our first act as government will not be to reject the rationale of 
questioning this program by making a request to extend it,” he said.


He added that the government would work with “the legitimate 
institutions of the European Union and the International Monetary Fund,” 
rather than with the envoys they have been sending. Mr. Varoufakis 
echoed the insistence of leaders of his party, Syriza, that they engage 
directly with the troika’s top officials.


The appetite for such a dialogue appears weak, though. Wolfgang 
Schäuble, the finance minister of Germany, which has championed 
austerity in Greece and other financially troubled eurozone states, 
repeated on Friday that the rules accompanying the rescue loans for 
Greece “can’t just be broken.”


Addressing an insurance industry event in Berlin, Mr. Schäuble said his 
government was “prepared for discussions” but would not be unreasonably 
pressured by Syriza.


“We are averse to blackmail,” he said.

[Marxism] Subject: Alain Badiou on Charlie Hebdo

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:53:24 +0200
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‘Le Rouge et le Tricolore’ Alain Badiou.
In le Monde (28.1.15) Alain Badiou has called for the “reactivation of the 
Communist idea” in place of the “totem” of the “République laïque” in order to 
stand up to “les crimes fascistes des terroristes”.
The philosopher and one-time prominent figure in the ‘post-Leninist’ and 
‘post-Maoist’ L’Organisation politique (defunct 2007) begins by sketching a 
portrait of global capitalism, dominated by the “abstraction” of money, and run 
by an international oligarchy. He sees within this context a drama, opposing 
the “civilised” capitalist West to blood thirsty “Islamism”. Murderous gangs, 
trying by force of arms, to impose obedience to the corpse of a God, are, in 
its scenario, opposed by those who, in the name of human rights, have launched 
savage military expeditions that have destroyed entire states (Yugoslavia, 
Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Sudan Congo, Mali and Central Africa). Western 
aggression, in support for these ‘rights’, has resulted in millions of victims. 
Every state, from Europe, the USA, to the authoritarian and nationalist Russia 
and China, to the theocracies of the Emirates, is now part of the same world of 
predatory capitalism.
More..

https://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/alain-badiou-on-charlie-hebdo-le-rouge-et-le-tricolore-a-critical-appraisal/

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[Marxism] Fwd: Randy Martin 1957-2015: an appreciation | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Re: [Marxism] Greece, and EU sanctions against Russia

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On 1/31/15 2:42 PM, Roger Annis via Marxism wrote:

Read the extensive writings of Robert Parry on the Times and the Ukraine war in 
order to understand this maxim.


Parry is like Stephen F. Cohen, an unabashed Putinite. It is like asking 
people to read Alan Dershowitz on Gaza.


Roger, Marxmail has lots of people who are very critical thinkers. You 
would be far more persuasive if you could cite experts who are less 
partisan. It would also help if you could occasionally comment on 
something other than Ukraine/Russia. Walter Lippmann made the big 
mistake of posturing as minister without portfolio for Cuba here for the 
better part of a decade. We are not a parliament here with deputies 
making the case for their pet hobbyhorse. I advocate for the Ukrainian 
cause but also write about many other things. You should try to become 
more well-rounded if for no other reason than to allow people to think 
that your purpose here is not only to champion a cause.

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[Marxism] Greece, and EU sanctions against Russia

2015-01-31 Thread Roger Annis via Marxism
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This note by me to the Green Left listserve today clarifies an apparent 
misunderstanding drawn from earlier comment by me on this subject.

Jan 31, 2015

The New York Times has a triumphalist article yesterday on Greece's attitude to 
sanctions on Russia. It's titled, 'Greece steps back into line with European 
Union policy on Russia sanctions'. Leaving aside the inaccuracy of the claim, 
the headline describes very well the paternalist attitude to the Syriza-led 
government that the U.S. government intends to apply. The article demonstrates 
very vividly WHAT A VERY LARGE HEADACHE for NATO war plans in eastern Europe is 
the outcome of the election in Greece. 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/world/europe/european-union-russia-sanctions-greece.html
 

The New York Times is wrong in its triumphalist interpretation of the meeting 
of EU foreign ministers on January 29. Here is what it reports: 

In the end, however, Greece backed away from strong statements denouncing 
sanctions and joined other countries in the 28-member bloc in a unanimous vote 
in favor of expanding a list of sanctioned individuals, mostly Russians, and of 
work to prepare “any further action” to pressure combatants to respect a 
stillborn truce agreement from last year. 

Greece also joined other countries in endorsing a six-month extension of 
sanctions imposed last March that would otherwise have soon expired. 
(End citation) 

That's it. The New York Times headline writer got caught up in fantasy. 
Surprise. No one should believe anything contentious the NYT publishes on 
Ukraine and Russia unless it can be verified by other sources. Read the 
extensive writings of Robert Parry on the Times and the Ukraine war in order to 
understand this maxim. The EU meeting extended already-agreed to sanctions 
against travel and access to finance of leading Russian capitalists. Nothing 
new was decided, nor could it be because the new Greek government has signaled 
that it will not be a hand-raiser at the EU on the issue of relations with 
Russia. 

There are two key EU meetings next month to watch--another meeting of the 
foreign ministers, on Feb 9, and a meeting 
(not summit) of heads of government on Feb 12. We should not expect or demand 
that the new Greek government bear sole responsibility to wage the battle over 
EU-Russia relations. The government has a great deal of priorities to deal with 
and important as it is, EU policy re Russia is not one of them. Meanwhile, 
where are the protest movements in the streets of Europe demanding that 
sanctions against Russia be stopped? Sanctions are preludes to war. Is Europe 
concerned about existing or threatened war in its eastern regions? Is the 
Syriza government supposed to make up for all the lacunes of the European left 
during the past year? That's hardly fair, and not particular useful as 
analysis. 

I don't read the Greek language, but I find the claim made on this list that 
the Syriza has supported NATO in the past to be dubious, to say the least. 
Perhaps outlandish is a more accurate characterization of such a claim. I 
understand that Syriza's basic party platform has a specific anti-NATO plank in 
it.

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[Marxism] Editor of major newspaper says he planted stories for CIA

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[Marxism] 300,000 at Podemos rally in Madrid

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In Madrid, 100,000 flock to anti-austerity Podemos rally

Times of India
AFP | Feb 1, 2015
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/In-Madrid-10-flock-to-anti-austerity-Podemos-rally/articleshow/46082783.cms

MADRID: At least 100,000 people poured into the streets of Madrid on
Saturday in a huge show of support for Spain's new anti-austerity
party Podemos, riding a wave of popularity after the election success
of its Greek hard-left ally Syriza.

A sea of demonstrators chanted Yes we can! and carried signs reading
The change is now as they made their way from Madrid city hall to
the central Puerta del Sol square in the first major march called by
Podemos, which has surged ahead in opinion polls in a crucial election
year.

Many in the crowd also waved Greek flags and the red and white flags
of Syriza, an equally radical party whose stunning win at the polls
last week has buoyed Podemos and its anti-establishment message.

The wind of change is starting to blow in Europe, Podemos leader
Pablo Iglesias, a pony-tailed former university professor, said in
Greek and Spanish as he addressed supporters at the so-called March
for Change.

We dream but we take our dream seriously. More has been done in
Greece in six days than many governments did in years, the
36-year-old said.

Syriza beat mainstream Greek parties with vows to end painful
austerity measures and corruption and Podemos hopes to emulate its
success with a similar message in Spain's general election due in
November.

Organisers put the turnout in Madrid at 300,000 while police said some
100,000 people had massed in the Spanish capital.

Podemos, which means We Can, was formed only a year ago but the
upstart party already shook up the political scene last May by winning
five seats in elections for the European Parliament.

Born out of the Indignants protest movement that filled Spanish
squares in 2011 with demands for political change, Podemos says it
wants to prevent profitable companies from firing people, promote a
fully state-controlled healthcare system and enact a significant
minimum-wage hike.
. . .
Podemos has overtaken the main opposition Socialist Party in several
opinion polls, and in some has topped the list ahead of the
conservative ruling People's Party (PP).
. . .
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/In-Madrid-10-flock-to-anti-austerity-Podemos-rally/articleshow/46082783.cms
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: EU wins Greek backing to extend Russia sanctions, delays decision on new steps | Reuters

2015-01-31 Thread Ralph Johansen via Marxism

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Louis Proyect wrote

Now, it would seem that the geopolitical/chess game left is ready to 
throw Syriza under the bus. The battle against austerity matters less 
than how Tsipras stands on sanctions. Just look at MRZine that is 
festooned today with anti-Syriza tweets.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/29/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSKBN0L22B720150129

In line with what Lou implies here, this advice from Rosa Luxemburg 
seems timely/timeless, epochally valid in a period of 
emancipation/transition:


The union of the broad popular masses with an aim reaching beyond the 
existing social order, the union of the daily struggle with the great 
world transformation, this is the task of the social democratic 
movement, which must logically grope on its road of development between 
the following two rocks: abandoning the mass character of the party, or 
abandoning the final aim, falling into bourgeois reformism or into 
sectarianism, anarchism or opportunism. Reform or Revolution, pp. 60-1.


What means Greece as the weakest link of the chain for other European 
workers?


What means overcoming the the differential rate of exploitation as a 
first order of business?


In truth, though, Rosa Luxemburg's perspective adopted as its center of 
reference some of the most fundamental issues (and difficulties) of the 
socialist project of emancipation. Accordingly, Luxemburg insisted that 
the test of viability of any particular measure devised to resolve in 
favor of the working classes the global antagonism between capital and 
labor can only be this: does it contribute (and to what extent) to the 
ultimate supersession of the social division of labor, or, on the 
contrary, does it contain the seeds of new contradictions that 
reproduce, even if in a new form, the structural hierarchies of super- 
and sub-ordination and the concomitant passivity and alienation of the 
broad masses of people. Meszaros, The Power of Ideology, p. 332


What does it concern the masses of Greek people what stance Syriza takes 
to a confrontation between two bourgeois forces, that at this point does 
not appear to affect them materially, when that stance may get in the 
way of buying them some respite from the privation and further 
frightening consequences of the troika's takedown of the Greek economy? 
But what they CAN respond to in the context is that a government that 
purports to speak in the name of the Greek people, and relates the 
people to the rest of their European confreres, is consulted on European 
policy.



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[Marxism] review of new book on the Iraq War, neocons, and Israelpolitik

2015-01-31 Thread Dennis Brasky via Marxism
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http://pulsemedia.org/2015/01/30/israelpolitik-the-neocons-and-the-long-shadow-of-the-iraq-war-a-review-of-muhammad-idrees-ahmads-book-the-road-to-iraq-the-making-of-a-neoconservative-war/
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Re: [Marxism] review of new book on the Iraq War, neocons, and Israelpolitik

2015-01-31 Thread A.R. G via Marxism
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From what I can tell from the review, it is simply a repeat of the MW
thesis with slightly more developed arguments about leftist
counter-arguments. I would hope that a book of this nature would delve
deeper into the nature of how the neocon/Zionist cult of 25 that Ahmad
describes came into a position of such influence -- and how such arguments
relate to a broader and more sophisticated understanding of imperialism
rather than contradict it.

Most of the critics who wrote off the Zionist lobby's influence as little
more than an extremist wing of American imperialism, as well as some
Marxists who endorsed it, like Perry Anderson, in my view, did not do a
great job connecting the dots.

- Amith

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[Marxism] Amidst all the celebrations we should remember this: Labor is not the Australian equivalent of SYRIZA

2015-01-31 Thread John Passant via Marxism

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Amidst all the celebrations we should remember this: Labor is not the 
Australian equivalent of SYRIZA


A social democratic desire among workers for improved living standards 
and services is both systemic, arising from the forced sale of our 
labour power to survive, and historical. The reality that workers' 
living standards are falling relatively, and may have to do so from 
capital's point of view in real terms, conflicts with the very real 
yearning of workers for a better world of full employment, improved 
wages and conditions and good schools, hospitals and transport. In 
Australia at the moment that yearning finds expression not in strikes 
and demonstrations for these outcomes - strikes are at near historic 
lows - but in the yo-yo of electoral change from neoliberal Labor to the 
neoliberal Liberals to neoliberal Labor.


http://enpassant.com.au/2015/02/01/amidst-all-the-celebrations-we-should-remember-this-labor-is-not-the-australian-version-of-syriza/


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Greek games and scenarios — Crooked Timber

2015-01-31 Thread Thomas via Marxism
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So, we see below that SYRIZA, in order to gain an absolute majority in the 
Greek Parliament, allied with the far right Independent Greeks party, ANEL, 
and, for some as yet unknown reason, chose to select Panos Kamenos, ANELs’ 
leading member, as the cabinet member in charge of the Greek military.

JA writes below “He will have no problem to deal with and be personally 
accepted by the army officers, including the many golden dawnites among them.”

For those unfamiliar with Golden Dawn, this is from Wikipedia:

“Scholars and media have described it as neo-Nazi and fascist, though the group 
rejects these labels.  Members have expressed admiration of the former Greek 
dictator Ioannis Metaxas of the 4th of August Regime (1936–1941).  They have 
also made use of Nazi symbolism, and have praised figures of Nazi Germany in 
the past.  According to academic sources, the group is racist and xenophobic, 
while the party’s leader has openly identified it as nationalist and racist.”

Further, JA writes below about the new Defense Minister chosen by SYRIZA to be 
in charge of the Greek military:

“A hard core nationalist, with his own political vision: a kind of.. 
permanent Bonapartistic governance!!!”

For those unfamiliar with Bonapartism, this is from Dictionary.com:

“a political system resembling the rules of the Bonapartes, esp Napoleon I and 
Napoleon III: centralized government by a military dictator, who enjoys popular 
support given expression in plebiscites”

To sum up, SYRIZA has chosen as the cabinet members heading the Greek Army a 
politician who “will have no problem to deal with and be personally accepted by 
the army officers, including the many golden dawnites [neo-Nazis] among them.”

And who is for “centralized government by a military dictator.”

This choice by SYRIZA, as yet unexplained, brings to mind a ship captain whose 
vessel was taking on water in a storm and in danger of sinking.

The captain ordered the crew to drill holes in the bottom of the ship to let 
the water out.


-Original Message-
From: ioannis aposperites aposperi...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 28, 2015 3:11 AM
To: Thomas thomasfbar...@earthlink.net, Activists and scholars in Marxist 
tradition marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Greek games and scenarios — Crooked Timber

Well Panos Kamenos is the new head of the cabinet of National Defense. 
A right wing clown.

A short *ridiculum* vitae :
Born in 1965 son of Elias BigBigMoney Kamenos he started his political 
career at New Democracy till 2011 when he refused support to Papademos 
government, left Samaras and founded the Independend greeks party.

A hard core nationalist, with his own political vision: a kind of.. 
permanent Bonapartistic governance!!! (don't ask me more about) and an 
homophobic.

He will have no problem to deal with and be personally accepted by the 
army officers, including the many golden dawnites among them.

JA



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Re: [Marxism] Further on Greece and Ukraine

2015-01-31 Thread ioannis aposperites via Marxism

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Thanks for the advice. I am keeping it by not focusing on the kind of 
rhetoric questions you are asking.
Instead, my focus is on what the greek bourgeoisie is thinking about its 
degradation on the imperialist chain . From their point, the 
Mediterranean  hydro-carbonates are not a secondary issue. It is linked 
to the recuperation of their imperialist status and is constantly 
articulated with greek foreign policy. As the clouds of war have never 
leave Aegean Sea since 1974 the confrontation of the two bougeoisies is 
a matter of war and peace in the area, in which case, what is primary, 
what is secondary issue and how they are linked to the whole situation 
is a very complicated matter.

JA

On 31/01/2015 12:39 πμ, Louis Proyect wrote:


I have no idea why you  are harping on secondary issues as if
what Tsipras says about Ukraine or disputes over drilling rights is more
important than the confrontation over debt.

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