[Marxism] Corporations Are Broke. It’s Time to Cut Up Their Credit Cards By Christian Parenti and Dante Dallavalle

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https://jacobinmag.com/2020/03/corporate-debt-crisis-coronavirus-financial-covid-19

Given present uncertainties, this is well-documented, thoughtfully 
argued and seems prescient. The thesis has obviously been gestating with 
these authors well before this crisis broke.


Not factored in are the effects on the world economy of environmental 
collapse, plus the likely turbulent global and geopolitical 
ramifications of the financial disaster that they portray so convincingly.



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Re: [Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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On 3/31/20 9:06 PM, J.B. Nicholson via Marxism wrote:
Over recent weeks Dore has grown increasingly critical of the Democratic 
Party and the notion that anyone can reform that party from within. That 
party has given Americans plenty of reason to justify strong criticism 
over the past few years.


Yeah. Obviously. All them neo-Kautskyites have figured out that Elvis 
left the building. Too bad they don't have a clue where to go next. 
Yeah, well, I was stupid myself when I was their age. Glad I learned 40 
years ago to become self-critical.


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Re: [Marxism] The political impact of COVID-19

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There will be Hell to pay unless Trump and his enablers can sell
"alternative facts" as part of his re-election campaign ---

He has already set the BAR very low by claiming that HIS ACTIONS will have
saved over a million lives --- 1.2 million if "we" do nothing  vs. 200,000
if "we" behave perfectly ---

Some Republicans are blaming the Democrats' "preoccupation with impeachment
in January" as the reason the federal govt. fumbled the ball ...

So it goes ...
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Re: [Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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Also, you can't spin slinging the word cocksucker at someone as an insult
as ""I'm sorry I shouldn't -- there's some
people who get offended when I say 'cocksucker' in a derogatory way. I love
having my
cock sucked. And I respect all cocksuckers." Does he really think we're
going to believe that when he uses the term as a pejorative, we're going to
think, ah, right, he's just letting us know how much "respect" he has for
the person?

I agree that language choice is not the highest priority issue at the
moment but he called his political opponents slags, whores and faggots I
think he'd raise a few eyebrows and rightly so. Choice of words always
matters.

Cheers,
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> > Around 16 minutes into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3DDvrbPmM he
> > addresses this choice of language from himself. He said, "I'm sorry I
> > shouldn't -- there's some people who get offended when I say
> > 'cocksucker' in a derogatory way. I love having my cock sucked. And I
> > respect all cocksuckers.". I remain unconvinced that petty namecalling
> > and ugly language is the important take-away message as people lose
> > their lives during this pandemic and now stand to lose their income and
> > homes (maybe even more) even if they live, all while seeing their
> > self-described "progressive" Congressional representatives and so-called
> > "progressive" media support the largest business bailout without a fight.
>
> This is a curse used against man, not women. Dore knows this but evades
> its obvious meaning. Dore is a two-bit shock jock whose politics are
> coming from the same general area as Chapo Trap House and targeting the
> same market. A few years from now when this Sandernista crap has passed
> its shelf life, we'll look back at Jacobin, DSA, Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore,
> A. O-C and wonder what the fuck was wrong with the left at the time. Put
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Re: [Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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Sorry, didn't see that John O'Brien had already made the point I was trying
to make.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Edmundson 
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> Also, you can't spin slinging the word cocksucker at someone as an insult
> as ""I'm sorry I shouldn't -- there's some
> people who get offended when I say 'cocksucker' in a derogatory way. I
> love having my
> cock sucked. And I respect all cocksuckers." Does he really think we're
> going to believe that when he uses the term as a pejorative, we're going to
> think, ah, right, he's just letting us know how much "respect" he has for
> the person?
>
> I agree that language choice is not the highest priority issue at the
> moment but he called his political opponents slags, whores and faggots I
> think he'd raise a few eyebrows and rightly so. Choice of words always
> matters.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
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>> > Around 16 minutes into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3DDvrbPmM he
>> > addresses this choice of language from himself. He said, "I'm sorry I
>> > shouldn't -- there's some people who get offended when I say
>> > 'cocksucker' in a derogatory way. I love having my cock sucked. And I
>> > respect all cocksuckers.". I remain unconvinced that petty namecalling
>> > and ugly language is the important take-away message as people lose
>> > their lives during this pandemic and now stand to lose their income and
>> > homes (maybe even more) even if they live, all while seeing their
>> > self-described "progressive" Congressional representatives and
>> so-called
>> > "progressive" media support the largest business bailout without a
>> fight.
>>
>> This is a curse used against man, not women. Dore knows this but evades
>> its obvious meaning. Dore is a two-bit shock jock whose politics are
>> coming from the same general area as Chapo Trap House and targeting the
>> same market. A few years from now when this Sandernista crap has passed
>> its shelf life, we'll look back at Jacobin, DSA, Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore,
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Re: [Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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A few years from now when this Sandernista crap has passed its shelf life, we'll
look back at Jacobin, DSA, Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore, A. O-C and wonder what the 
fuck
was wrong with the left at the time. Put briefly: careerism.
While I think it would be fair to accuse Jimmy Dore of being naive and 
misunderstanding certain structural power (such as what Bruce Spiva, DNC lawyer, laid 
out clearly to the court about what the DNC can do to choose its standards bearer), I 
don't think your description fairly characterizes what Dore is saying about Sanders, 
Ocasio-Cortez, and other politicians in power now. Dore went from being remarkably 
supportive of Tulsi Gabbard (to the point of being conspicuously silent about her 
inconsistencies and clear statements of party loyalty) to including her in his 
criticism as she endorsed pro-war Joe Biden. Over recent weeks Dore has grown 
increasingly critical of the Democratic Party and the notion that anyone can reform 
that party from within. That party has given Americans plenty of reason to justify 
strong criticism over the past few years.


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Re: [Marxism] COVID-19 Crisis: When Bourgeois Sources Reveal the Truth

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The issue here, as the article states is not about conspiracy but
opportunity. But between those two can be a vast chasm. We had a series
highly destructive earthquakes (and thousands of aftershocks) in
Christchurch, NZ where I live nearly ten years ago. There was no conspiracy
to beat up the seriousness of them - in fact I went to my step son's school
singing event and the then Minister of Education (National Party, the
approximate equivalent of the Tories) made an off hand remark about not
letting "a few little earthquakes" stop us. Likewise, the Earthquake
Recovery Minister and various bureaucrats on a number of occasions played
down the seriousness and tried to claim things were progressing more
quickly than we all knew they were. And of course, the responses were
bourgeois response. No seizing the opportunity to plan the rebuild of the
city centre as a state of the art sustainable people centred showpiece. No
plan that saw the poorer East of the city having its needs addressed as a
priority. Because bourgeios governments think in bourgeois ways.

Likewise now. The latest figures put the infection numbers in the 700,000s
and deaths at about 35,000. So a mortality rate of about 5% (probably more
like 2% when the asymptomatic and otherwise undiagnosed are factored in).
And that's because governments have taken pretty drastic steps. NZ is in a
virtually total lock down for non-essential services. No bourgeoisie
benefits from locking down the country, telling the workers to stay home
and stop producing surplus value and, in New Zealand's case upping the
national debt further by paying a wage subsidy to stay at home (and making
clear that employers who pocket the subsidy rather than pay it to their
staff will be prosecuted.) This is damaging to the economy. Yes, of course
the government and business will try to blame the recession (or depression
if that occurs) on Covid 19; it's what they do. But to have taken lesser
measures would have been grossly irresponsible. Johnson (UK), Morrison
(Aus) and Trump (USA) have taken huge risks in that direction and may yet
pay a horrific (it already is horrific) price.

John

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[Marxism] The political impact of COVID-19

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They now say that if 100,000 people die in the next two weeks, we'll be 
getting off easy. Between 1965 and 1975, 58,000 GI's died in Vietnam. 
That loss of life due to a ruling class imperialist war created a 
massive loss of confidence in political institutions. Just imagine the 
impact when families lose twice this number of members in such a short 
time-span and begin to realize that Trump had a lot to do with the 
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Re: [Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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The response to the homophobia Jimmy Dore states today:

"theres some people who get offended" (read queers and queer lovers)
and he "remains unconvinced" - citing the pandemic crisis does not deserve 
recognizing his homophobic insults.


Always an excuse to not address homophobia, as the same excuse for racism and 
sexism not being addressed.
And usually it is the same privileged who contend "there are always too many 
important other issues to deal with".

But it seems there is always time to keep using homophobia - strange how that 
works, when people do not want to accept
and recognize their wrongs!   Time always for wrong and no effort to be better.



From: Marxism  on behalf of J.B. Nicholson 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:42 PM.

John Obrien via Marxism wrote:
> Jimmy Dore spews constant homophobia, such as with his favorite use of
> "cocksucker" as a perjorative and few challenge him for doing such - reflects 
> the
> homophobia still acceptable on much of U.S. left - "as funny".

Around 16 minutes into 
https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSX3DDvrbPmMdata=02%7C01%7C%7C59f8cda19bc04e60980708d7d5cdec28%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637212952710012476sdata=58vG9UhNDcdl57f6W%2Bnqvn%2Bdv%2BbN60qEw59G%2F2PVTyY%3Dreserved=0
 he addresses this
choice of language from himself. He said, "I'm sorry I shouldn't -- there's some
people who get offended when I say 'cocksucker' in a derogatory way. I love 
having my
cock sucked. And I respect all cocksuckers.". I remain unconvinced that petty
namecalling and ugly language is the important take-away message as people lose 
their
lives during this pandemic and now stand to lose their income and homes (maybe 
even
more) even if they live, all while seeing their self-described "progressive"
Congressional representatives and so-called "progressive" media support the 
largest
business bailout without a fight.

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On 3/31/20 7:42 PM, J.B. Nicholson via Marxism wrote:
Around 16 minutes into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3DDvrbPmM he 
addresses this choice of language from himself. He said, "I'm sorry I 
shouldn't -- there's some people who get offended when I say 
'cocksucker' in a derogatory way. I love having my cock sucked. And I 
respect all cocksuckers.". I remain unconvinced that petty namecalling 
and ugly language is the important take-away message as people lose 
their lives during this pandemic and now stand to lose their income and 
homes (maybe even more) even if they live, all while seeing their 
self-described "progressive" Congressional representatives and so-called 
"progressive" media support the largest business bailout without a fight.


This is a curse used against man, not women. Dore knows this but evades 
its obvious meaning. Dore is a two-bit shock jock whose politics are 
coming from the same general area as Chapo Trap House and targeting the 
same market. A few years from now when this Sandernista crap has passed 
its shelf life, we'll look back at Jacobin, DSA, Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore, 
A. O-C and wonder what the fuck was wrong with the left at the time. Put 
briefly: careerism.


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John Obrien via Marxism wrote:

Jimmy Dore spews constant homophobia, such as with his favorite use of
"cocksucker" as a perjorative and few challenge him for doing such - reflects 
the
homophobia still acceptable on much of U.S. left - "as funny".


Around 16 minutes into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3DDvrbPmM he addresses this 
choice of language from himself. He said, "I'm sorry I shouldn't -- there's some 
people who get offended when I say 'cocksucker' in a derogatory way. I love having my 
cock sucked. And I respect all cocksuckers.". I remain unconvinced that petty 
namecalling and ugly language is the important take-away message as people lose their 
lives during this pandemic and now stand to lose their income and homes (maybe even 
more) even if they live, all while seeing their self-described "progressive" 
Congressional representatives and so-called "progressive" media support the largest 
business bailout without a fight.


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[Marxism] Why standard economic theories have no answers for this kind of crisis.

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Why standard economic theories have no answers for this kind of crisis.
BY SANJAY G. REDDY | MARCH 31, 2020, 2:52 PM

The coronavirus pandemic has dramatically disrupted the everyday social 
and economic patterns of societies around the world. Economists have 
focused on its economic impact and on what central banks and governments 
should do in response to an unusual simultaneous disruption of both 
supply and demand. There is consensus that governments will have to 
support businesses and workers who are losing income—or risk dangerous 
knock-on effects on banks and the real economy—and find a way to finance 
these expenditures. There is also an urgent need to ramp up the 
production of essential commodities such as ventilators, gloves, and 
masks; to provide hospital beds; and to ensure that required personnel 
can themselves turn up for work. Despite disruption to supply chains and 
restrictions on the population, essential goods and basic services must 
be provided, firms must be kept from going bankrupt, and employment and 
incomes must be maintained.


These circumstances raise fundamental questions about the role of the 
market and the public sector in doing what is needed on the required 
scale and with sufficient speed. Some economic thinkers are rightly 
attacking these problems with urgency.


But addressing such practical ends also calls for us to rethink more 
basic economic ideas. The economics discipline has provided the most 
influential framework for thinking about public policies, but it has 
proved inadequate, both in preparing for the current emergency and for 
dealing with it. The pandemic underlines the necessity for a rethinking 
of our received ideas about economics and points in some directions that 
this rethinking should take.


The public interest and rational choice

Let’s first take the view of mainstream economics of the relationship 
between individual and collective rationality in a situation like the 
current pandemic. It conceives that what seems rational for the 
individual to do can end up being irrational from a collective 
standpoint. Conventional economists conceive that the actions of 
individuals who propagate an infectious disease generate an externality 
in the form of an infection risk (not just for those whom an individual 
interacts with directly but those whom they interact with, in turn), 
thereby raising the disease risks in society at large. It may be 
reasonable for an individual to judge that an interaction with a 
specific other individual is low risk for both of them, but many such 
interactions multiplied across a population would greatly increase the 
speed of transmission of the disease and the ultimate risk of infection, 
not merely for the person concerned but for others


There is not much to quarrel with here. The trouble comes later. 
Externalities can be such that some are harmed by them or that everyone 
is harmed by them. The current pandemic involves aspects of both of 
these cases, but in either instance, a rethinking is needed.


Since mortality rates from the current pandemic are overwhelmingly 
greater for the old, and younger people most often experience small 
direct harms compared with the benefits they receive from an 
uninterrupted life, a framework for making public health choices in the 
current pandemic must go beyond the question of whether all can be made 
better off and instead undertake interpersonal comparisons of well-being 
to determine whether the benefits of a specific action to some outweigh 
the losses to others. Most conventional economists studiously avoid such 
comparisons, focusing instead on efficiency considerations that rank 
outcomes only according to whether all are made better off by a course 
of action. In this situation, such an approach will get us nowhere. The 
economist Lionel Robbins famously attacked interpersonal comparisons as 
being questions of “Thy blood or mine.” But in this case they may be 
questions of “Thy blood or my livelihood.” Interpersonal comparisons 
permit us to judge whether prospective additional losses of life of some 
may be viewed as outweighing the inconveniences and economic or social 
harms, possibly also serious, experienced by others.


A pandemic allows us to see why it is absolutely necessary, even if far 
from straightforward, to weigh different people’s interests. Such 
comparisons can of course be fraught. In the best case, meaningful 
public deliberation on them can provide some social and political 
legitimacy. Drastic decisions by governments in Europe and the United 
States to stem the pandemic so far appear to have earned public 

[Marxism] Beyond chutzpah: US charges Venezuela with narco-terrorism (Counterpunch)

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Coronavirus: Hong Kong police put social-distancing rules to test at 
protesters’ monthly gathering


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[Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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Jimmy Dore spews constant homophobia, such as with his favorite use of 
"cocksucker" as a perjorative

and few challenge him for doing such - reflects the homophobia still acceptable 
on much of U.S. left - "as funny".






Thanks for making your last paragraph a breakdown of how terrible Jimmy Dore is 
so that no one else has to chime in to point out he's an awful person in 
general and certainly an awful "leftist".

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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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To the best of my knowledge, Michael is the only person from his tendency that 
forwards material to this list.  I don’t know what the others are thinking.
It is a feature of small group life that members who may not  be confident of 
their groups public stance, may nevertheless lack the confidence to challenge 
the view of a prominent leader of the group. And so errors can go uncorrected 
for some time.
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[Marxism] COVID-19 Crisis: When Bourgeois Sources Reveal the Truth

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COVID-19 Crisis: When Bourgeois Sources Reveal the Truth

On the plans and motivations of the ruling classes behind the global 
mass lock down and the suppression of democratic rights


by Michael Pröbsting, 31 March 2020

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Re: [Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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It would have been helpful (but improbable and 'impolitic' I guess) if 
AOC and others, in the midst of the pernicious backroom negotiations on 
this massive handout to capital ('disaster capitalism' in motion), with 
whatever bully pulpit access to media they could muster, early on, 
including speeches on the House floor, had described in more explicit 
and accessible language the dirty specifics of the bill, as have Mike 
Whitney and to a limited extent Jimmy Dore ... if they had, more 
importantly, attempted to mobilize their constituents and to bring them 
out in the streets against this hand-over of our future well-being, 
perhaps survival, part of a monstrous plan of total subjugation, to 
implacable class enemies. Did any of these 'progressives' ('vote for a 
woman.' as if women were class-exempt) attempt to do that? Of course not 
- they maneuver in a parliamentary setting that precludes that. How roll 
logs on behalf of your business and middle class constituents, and grab 
onto influential Congressional committee sinecures to ensure that 
process, committee assignments granted and withheld by Congressional 
party disciplinarians -- and reelection?


I have problems with the term 'progressive.' It manages to conflate and 
confuse liberal reformism and root and branch radical socialism to the 
detriment of the latter, and that misleads a whole lot of people. 
Unfortunately, Jimmy Dore falls into that mode, and I question whether 
he really understands the difference. Call a spade a spade - socialism 
is socialism, reformism is reformism. The latter may have its place in 
giving people space to survive to realize the latter, but we risk 
fooling ourselves: we are not emancipated by tweaking and fooling around 
with a system fundamentally incompatible with our emancipation from an 
ideology and practice of alienation and self-destruction.


[I'm quoting all that Dayne contributed, although it might seem 
extraneous, to illustrate the differences and similarities, down to 
Jimmy Dore [rightly] identifying himself and Democracy Now! with 
'progressive media.' Both make good points but don't connect the dots. 
They don't lead their audience beyond reformism. They haven't read their 
Marx - carefully.]



Dayne Goodwin via Marxism wrote:

   AOC blasts 'shameful' $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus bill for
   bailing out
   corporations


She raised some correct points in her rant. But don't let her empty 
theatrics ("blast") fool you. She didn't shame anyone but herself. She 
voted for that bill.


Instead of mobilizing 'the squad' and sympathetic Republicans to work 
against the bill including stalling it while the public is made aware of 
its many shortcomings, the so-called progressives gave grandstanding 
speeches like AOC's aforementioned speech. Instead of voting against the 
bill and being in a position to say she was looking out for her 
constituents' interests (even if the bill passed it wouldn't have been 
because of her), she now joins Tulsi Gabbard, Ayanna Pressley, Ro 
Khanna, Elizabeth Warren, Ilhan Omar, "and anyone else who wants to call 
themselves a progressive" (as Jimmy Dore said) in voting for this 
massive big business bailout bill that is the largest wealth transfer. 
That one-time $1,200 check some Americans will get won't purchase what 
Americans need and deserve.


Jimmy Dore has been making YouTube videos on this recently 
(https://www.youtube.com/user/TYTComedy/videos is his channel) including 
pointing out how shameful it is to think that AOC's arm-waving speech is 
in any way comparable to Congressional votes 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfOPSq705To), how California's 3-month 
mortgage payment moratorium is going to be followed by allowing banks to 
demand all of those unpaid payments on month 4 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQmn9o6NZVo) meaning that in month 4 
one owes the unpaid 3 payments plus the regular monthly payment -- 4X 
their regular mortgage payment in one lump sum.


And, as Dore has been explicitly clear, "It is stunning to watch 
progressive media fall down on this". Very few news and/or commentary 
outlets are covering what a bad bill this is for the 99% and how things 
look very bad for a lot of Americans in the short-term future. One 
notable example: Democracy Now! earned a reputation for championing 
progressive politics during the run-up to the 2003 US/UK-led invasion of 
Iraq. DN has squandered all of that good will in recent years as Amy 
Goodman uncritically repeated Russiagate lies, echoed talk of the 
alleged gas attack in Douma that now 4 OPCW scientists say did not 
happen, and DN lost critical voices like former DN 

[Marxism] Coronavirus for grocery workers - like working in a petri dish

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"At night the stores are filthy due to the influx of customers flocking the
stores during the day panic buying. The night crews find all kinds of nasty
things left on the shelves by customers that they have to touch and remove
while wearing no safety gear. Night after night it’s a mad rush to fill up
shelves working hundreds if not thousands of cases of freight only for the
shelves to still look barren. The entire shift it’s in your mind “what
germs did customers leave behind and will I be the one that gets infected
with Covid – 19?” Showing up for work every day is like you’re playing a
continuous game of Russian Roulette! That mind set causes a lot of stress.

The “little things”
Little things we used to take for granted like taking a drink of water or
going to the bathroom has dramatically changed. Before drinking water, wash
your hands first. Before going the bathroom room and after, wash your
hands. Touching door handles, everything we did in the past unconsciously
you now have to think about to protect yourself. In general grocery stores
are a petri dish just waiting for infection to happen and the company is
doing no real extra cleaning or sanitizing to protect workers.

"For grocery workers working the day shift they have whole other issues to
deal with."

https://oaklandsocialist.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-grocery-workers-working-in-a-petri-dish/

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[Marxism] ReelAbilities Film Festival 2020 | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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On Friday March 13, 2020, CounterPunch published my review of the 
Socially Relevant Film Festival 2020. Before the day was up, I learned 
that the festival was being postponed because the theater venues had 
been closed because of the COVID-19 pandemic.


From that day onward, my film reviews have dried up to a trickle. Five 
very promising films were cancelled, including one on Thomas Piketty’s 
new book and another on the radium girls who contracted radiation 
poisoning from painting watch dials. As might be obvious from my 
interest in such films, I see covering them as a political obligation.


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Thanks for making your last paragraph a breakdown of how terrible Jimmy Dore is 
so that no one else has to chime in to point out he's an awful person in 
general and certainly an awful "leftist".

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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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On 3/31/20 5:04 AM, RKOB via Marxism wrote:
>
> SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data
>
> A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of
> Antimicrobial Agents
>
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972
Yes, data is a good thing. From the month-old article:

"As of 2 March 2020, 90 307 patients had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2
worldwide, with 3086 deaths (mortality rate 3.4%)."
Now those 90,000 are over 800,000, the 3000 deaths are 40,000 deaths. Even
more remarkably:

"As of 2 March 2020, among OECD countries, 7476 patients had tested
positive for SARS-CoV-2, with 96 deaths (mortality rate 1.3%)"
Yeh, and now just a few weeks later, that's over 100,000 just in Italy,
nearly 100,000 in Spain, 164,000 in the US, hundreds of thousands more,
11,000 dead just in Italy in conditions that sound like the Black Death,
likewise Spain, etc. That's before we even get to what awaits people
throughout the poor world when it hits deeper.
Michael, really what is the point of this "data" that has become so rapidly
irrelevant? You're in Austria, right? You don't see what is happening just
across the border?Yes, it is very strange to agree with lockdowns carried
out by capitalist governments, even though, in reality, in most cases they
are being dragged into it kicking and screaming. But stranger things have
happened. I declare myself here and now in support of lockdown.
You might say, this would not be necessary if the government had carried
out massive testing (like in S. Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam etc), if it had
millions of test kits ready, if there were plenty of ICU rooms and
ventilators, if there were plenty of hospital beds, isn't so bad that
capitalism has cut health spending for decades and the catastrophe hitting
the US could have been avoided etc, and lockdowns etc would not be needed.
Yes, agreed. But precisely the fact that there ahs not been much testing
and governments have devastated the health sector is the point. The "if"
statements are good political commentary but make no difference to what
needs to be done given the actual situation.
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Regarding that Walton billionaire chairing the Stanford board: "Carrie is the granddaughter of Helen 
and Sam Walton, founders of the Walton Family Foundation and Walmart."

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Regarding that Walton billionaire on the Stanford board:

"Carrie is the granddaughter of Helen and Sam Walton, founders of the Walton Family Foundation and 
Walmart." --Walton Family Foundation website

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SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data

A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of 
Antimicrobial Agents


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972


All of these articles that make the death rate the overriding statistic 
are missing an essential point. Getting sick is a whole order of 
magnitude more devastating than any flu I've heard of. I say that as 
someone who was sick with the flu in 1964, 1968 and 1973.


NY Times, March 27, 2020
I Am Hospitalized With the Coronavirus
As a generally healthy 45-year-old, I didn’t seem like a probable 
Covid-19 candidate.

By Jeremy Egner

Mr. Egner is the television editor for The Times.

On March 12 I got a fever that didn’t go away.

It hovered around 101 or 102 degrees for the next week, accompanied by 
severe fatigue and body aches. My office was already working remotely, 
so I powered through and kept at it, with lots of breaks and naps. I saw 
a doctor via video who said it was probably the flu — possibly the 
coronavirus, he added, but tests were unavailable and the prescription, 
rest and fluids, would be the same regardless.


I naturally worried about the coronavirus, but I didn’t have respiratory 
symptoms. I’m also a 45-year-old, generally healthy nonsmoker (I quit 
years ago) with none of the high-risk conditions listed by the Centers 
for Disease Control and Prevention. I didn’t seem like a probable 
Covid-19 candidate.


Then, about a week in, I began to cough. Taking deep breaths felt as if 
fire were shooting through my lungs. My primary care doctor, with whom I 
also consulted via video, thought it was pneumonia and prescribed a 
course of antibiotics. New York State set up a coronavirus testing site 
an hour from my home. When I called for an appointment, I waited on hold 
for 80 minutes, after which someone took my information and said someone 
else would call me back. No one did.


Eight days after the fever first manifested, I could barely move. My 
wife took me to an urgent care clinic, where I received a chest X-ray 
and confirmation that I had pneumonia. They swabbed me for the 
coronavirus but their lab was overwhelmed, and they didn’t know when 
they would receive any results. I’ve still not heard from them.


I returned home in terrible shape, chest burning and wracked with 
chills, unable to do anything other than shudder under a blanket. My 
primary doctor urged my wife to take me to the E.R., which she did. 
There, they gave me a coronavirus test and another chest X-ray, but 
blood tests suggested that my oxygen and white blood cell levels were 
decent. They sent me home but insisted that should I feel worse, I 
should call them back immediately.


The next day, my temperature spiked to 103.5 degrees. We called the 
E.R., and they told us to come back. That night I was admitted to 
Northern Dutchess Hospital in Rhinebeck, N.Y.


The first night and day were a literal fever-dream of pricks, prods, 
scans and sweat. I floated in and out of consciousness and 
hallucinations as nurses drew blood from all over and gave me shots of 
blood thinner in my stomach, which became a daily routine. Someone took 
another chest X-ray.


On the second day I was more lucid but still felt horrendous, and a 
friendly doctor came in with two bits of news: The coronavirus test I 
took in the E.R. had come back positive and the latest X-ray wasn’t 
good. He showed me the earlier X-ray from the E.R.: Each lung had a 
cloudy patch near the bottom but was otherwise clear. Then he showed me 
the new X-ray. It looked liked some demented handyman had sprayed my 
lungs with insulation.


It was one of the bleakest moments of the ordeal, surpassed only by the 
moment when I wondered, as I hugged my 9-year-old daughter goodbye on 
the way to the hospital, if I would ever hug her again.


My doctor said we’d stay the course and perhaps add another antibiotic 
to the mix. But if things didn’t start to turn around soon, he added, I 
would need to move into the intensive care unit. I lay back, utterly 
dispirited, and turned on the TV. It was on CNN. President Trump was 
telling someone he wanted to reopen the country by Easter.


A few weeks ago I would have rolled my eyes and made a joke about how he 
should socially distance himself on some Mar-a-Lago golf course. Just go 
away and let the adults figure things out.


But my experience has made this pandemic much less abstract, and left me 
in no mood for jokes. I’m writing this from my hospital bed in 
Rhinebeck, on Day 14 of my Covid-pneumonia saga.


It has been miserable in general, with spikes of both awful 

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On 3/31/20 7:47 AM, MM via Marxism wrote:


 From the website for the “Investments for the Future’ programme”:

“Created in 2010 and allocated €35 billion, the Investments for the Future 
programme (PIA) aims to stimulate employment, boost productivity and increase 
the competitiveness of French businesses by encouraging investment and 
innovation in priority sectors to drive growth. A second programme was launched 
in 2013 with €12 billion, followed by a third in 2017 with €10 billion.”

https://anr.fr/en/investments-for-the-future/investments-for-the-future/


Can't remember if I posted this here. From my FB post:

Jeez, I wonder if there's any connection between 3 of the highest 
profile medical "experts" who line up with Trump on getting back to work 
and them being Stanford professors. Stanford's board chairperson is a 
Walmart billionaire.


University Administration
Stanford University is a trust with corporate powers under the laws of 
the State of California. The university is a tax-exempt entity under 
section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.


Board of Trustees
effective December 1, 2019

Felix J. Baker, Co-Founder and Managing Partner, Baker Brothers 
Investments, New York, NY

Mary T. Barra, Chief Executive Officer, General Motors, Detroit, MI
Aneel Bhusri, Co-Founder & CEO, Workday, San Francisco, CA
Michael C. Camuñez, President & CEO, Monarch Global Strategies LLC, Los 
Angeles, CA
Michelle R. Clayman, Managing Partner & Chief Investment Officer, New 
Amsterdam Partners LLC, New York, NY

Bret E. Comolli, Chairman, Asurion Corporation, Atherton, CA
RoAnn Costin, President, Wilderness Point Investments, Cambridge, MA
Dipanjan Deb, CEO & Co-Founder, Francisco Partners, San Francisco, CA
Henry A. Fernandez, Chairman and CEO, MSCI Inc., New York, NY
Angela S. Filo, Co-Founder, Yellow Chair Foundation, Palo Alto, CA
Sakurako D. Fisher, San Francisco, CA
Bradley A. Geier, Co-Managing Partner, Merlone Geier Partners, San Diego, CA
James D. Halper, Senior Advisor, Leonard Green & Partners, Los Angeles, CA
Ronald B. Johnson, Founder & CEO, Enjoy, Menlo Park, CA
Marc E. Jones, Chairman & CEO, Aeris, San Jose, CA
Tonia G. Karr, San Francisco, CA
Sarah H. Ketterer, CEO, Causeway Capital, Los Angeles, CA
Carol C. Lam, Attorney, La Jolla, CA
Christy MacLear, CEO, Pace Experiential/NewCo, New York, NY
Kenneth E. Olivier, Chairman Emeritus, Dodge and Cox, San Francisco, CA
Carrie W. Penner, Chair of the Board, Walton Family Foundation, Aspen, CO
Ruth M. Porat, Chief Financial Officer, Alphabet Inc. and Google Inc., 
Mountain View, CA

Laurene Powell Jobs, Founder/President, Emerson Collective, Palo Alto, CA
Jeffrey S. Raikes, Co-Founder, The Raikes Foundation, Seattle, WA
Mindy B. Rogers, Atherton, CA
Victoria B. Rogers, President, Rose Hills Foundation, Pasadena, CA
Srinija Srinivasan, Palo Alto, CA
Jeffrey E. Stone, Chairman Emeritus and Senior Partner, McDermott Will & 
Emery LLP, Chicago IL
Gene T Sykes, Global Co-Head of M & Chairman, Goldman Sachs Group, 
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Re: [Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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> On Mar 31, 2020, at 5:04 AM, RKOB via Marxism  
> wrote:
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> SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data
> 
> A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of Antimicrobial 
> Agents
> 
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972 
> 

From the article link:

“This work was supported by the French Government under the ‘Investments for 
the Future’ programme managed by the National Agency for Research, 
Méditerranée-Infection 10-IAHU-03.” 

From the website for the “Investments for the Future’ programme”: 

“Created in 2010 and allocated €35 billion, the Investments for the Future 
programme (PIA) aims to stimulate employment, boost productivity and increase 
the competitiveness of French businesses by encouraging investment and 
innovation in priority sectors to drive growth. A second programme was launched 
in 2013 with €12 billion, followed by a third in 2017 with €10 billion.”

https://anr.fr/en/investments-for-the-future/investments-for-the-future/

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[Marxism] » Covid-19’s attacks on the down-and-out in ultra-unequal South Africa

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By Patrick Bond

https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/covid-19s-attacks-on-the-down-and-out-in-ultra-unequal-south-africa/

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[Marxism] SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data (New Scientific Study)

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SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data

A new scientific study to appear in: International Journal of 
Antimicrobial Agents


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972

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