Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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I agree that there was no way Sanders was going to get the 2020
Democrat presidential nomination.  imo (as i started telling friends
last summer) the most progressive possible 2020 U.S. presidential
election outcome would be the election of Elizabeth Warren. Just
because Sanders had called himself a 'democratic socialist' when under
pressure in 2015/16 didn't mean that for us working people there was
qualitatively substantial reason to prefer Sanders' program over
Warren's.

Some of my Sanders-supporting friends were aghast at my support for "a
capitalist."  Some of them who couldn't understand that Sanders was
just as much a "capitalist" as Warren, were at least given pause when
i argued that either Sanders supported Warren or he would end up
supporting Biden.

If the election was really "not about me" as Sanders claimed he should
have endorsed and supported Warren and created a progressive force
that would have been a much more serious challenge to the Democrat
Party establishment than Sanders alone.  Instead the Sanders campaign
broke their truce and attacked Warren early this year.  Michelle
Goldberg commented on it in her Jan. 13 NYTimes column titled
"Elizabeth Warren is the Democrats' unity candidate":

"Over the weekend, a minor conflict broke out between the presidential
campaigns of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, longtime friends who
have, until now, seemed to operate under an unspoken nonaggression
pact.

"It started when Politico reported on a script that Sanders volunteers
had been given to persuade voters leaning toward other candidates.
Warren backers, the script said, are “highly educated, more affluent
people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what”
and that she’s “bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party.”

This attack escalated into the more visible conflict over whether
Sanders had opined to Warren before the campaign got underway that he
'didn't think a woman could beat Trump.'  I think Warren was telling
the truth.  I noticed that the brunt of the Sanders' campaign defense
was reference to historically previous Sanders' statements in the
abstract that he 'did think a woman could become president.'  imo when
everyone paying attention learned that Warren held Sanders responsible
for calling her a liar on national television both their campaigns
took a heavy blow.

Given, as Mark says, "the very blatant way in which the 'liberal
media' covered this campaign" the two progressive candidates did not
recover from the damage the Sanders campaign had caused trying to get
"me" ahead by cutting down Warren.


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>  I don't think Sanders ever had a snowball's chance of getting near the
> nomination . . . and arguing that the DNC couldn't have prevented it misses
> the newest player in all this.  Historically, the DNC had been essential in
> tipping the nomination where it wanted to go, especially when tied to a
> seated president.  However, I'd argue that no such intervention was needed
> in 2020 thanks to the very blatant way in which the "liberal media" covered
> this campaign.
>
> They sought to head off Sanders initially by boosting Warren, and, as soon
> as her campaign looked as though she could more to fore, they froze her out
> (and then wallowed in its faux outrage at how sexism kept her back and not
> their own pathetic lying about how a national health care system was simply
> unaffordable).,  CNN and MSNBC reported the view she and Sanders
> expressed--that health care should be a human right--as an attempt to take
> health care away from people. o(It was truly a Democratic version or the
> Republican BS about "death panels.")
>
> In the end, they pulled out all the stops to assert (contrary to the
> evidence) that Biden was the Democratic contender most likely to defeat
> Trump.  And that's what's settled the matter indirectly without any need
> for direct action by the Democratic hierarchy.

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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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 I don't think Sanders ever had a snowball's chance of getting near the
nomination . . . and arguing that the DNC couldn't have prevented it misses
the newest player in all this.  Historically, the DNC had been essential in
tipping the nomination where it wanted to go, especially when tied to a
seated president.  However, I'd argue that no such intervention was needed
in 2020 thanks to the very blatant way in which the "liberal media" covered
this campaign.

They sought to head off Sanders initially by boosting Warren, and, as soon
as her campaign looked as though she could more to fore, they froze her out
(and then wallowed in its faux outrage at how sexism kept her back and not
their own pathetic lying about how a national health care system was simply
unaffordable).,  CNN and MSNBC reported the view she and Sanders
expressed--that health care should be a human right--as an attempt to take
health care away from people. o(It was truly a Democratic version or the
Republican BS about "death panels.")

In the end, they pulled out all the stops to assert (contrary to the
evidence) that Biden was the Democratic contender most likely to defeat
Trump.  And that's what's settled the matter indirectly without any need
for direct action by the Democratic hierarchy.
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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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I'll add a few pennies to this discussion.

If Sanders were able to win the primaries and get a majority of votes he
would be the DP nominee. If Trump could do it in the GOP, though there are
greater obstacles to this in the DP, it could be done  in the DP and there
was nothing the DNC or Clintonites could of done about it.

The fact is that few Sanders supporters understood the polling, even AFTER
he won Nevada and the establishment of the professional caste inside the DP
were preaching doom and gloom, which pointed to him having about *half* the
support he did in 2016. This was true from the very beginning. At no point
was he ever going to have enough delegates to win an outright majority if
one looks at the polls on a state-by-state basis. He never really breached
27% even in the states he won. Anything short of an outright majority of
delegates meant super delegates were in play. Everyone knew this, except,
it seems, Sanders activist supporters. The support was simply *never there*.

Of course the DP establishment finally go their act together behind Biden.
So what? That it is politics...and was based on the fact the *voters* in
large part who supported the other "moderate" Democrats (whatever that
means) were, ergo, in the MAJORITY and thus Biden could be the only winner
in this contest. Even if Warren had endorsed him or not run at all, the
results, I believe, would be pretty much the same.

The bigger question now is what are all these activists going to do now?
Will DSA grow? Will it move more independently? Will there be a big
desertion of Bernieistas to the Green Party? Will most just campaign for
Biden because Trump is so much worse (in their view)?

David Walters
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[Marxism] Life Comes At You Fast – The Brooklyn Rail

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A must-read by Jason E. Smith who wrote the definitive take-down of 
Jacobin in The Brooklyn Rail titled "Let Us Be Terrible:

Considerations on the Jacobin Club".

https://brooklynrail.org/2020/04/field-notes/Life-Comes-At-You-Fast

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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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Hi Wythe,

I think that both the Corbyn and Sanders camps were banking on the fact
that the crisis of capitalism is so acute that the elite would listen to
their reform.proposals.

Not so it would seem.

Basically the Democrat and Right wing Labour strategy is that of the Second
XI. The First XI fucks up totally and the Second XI gets a chance to go on
the field and display their managerial skills.

But in these days of right wing populism, there is no guarantee that the
Second XI will get a go. These are dark days indeed.
comradely

Gary
Gary

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> Sanders chose to run as a Democrat despite lots of warnings and the
> experience of 2016, and while early in his career he might have broken with
> the Democrats he deliberately chose (I think) to demonstrate to all and
> sundry that his radical platform, resonant with and favorable to most young
> voters and many Americans, would (or would not) be supported by the
> mainstreamers.  He found out once again that mainstream Democrat politics
> is purely capitalist politics and that he has wasted his time money and
> perhaps entire career.  Wythe
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> My cup runneth over these days.
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> Corbyn and Sanders did not get to first base. Yet all they were proposing
> was to save capitalism from capitalists.
>
> I really wish they both would quit the corpses they have tried to activate.
> But Corbyn will never leave Labour. I do not know enough about Sanders, but
> he should defy the Democratic party and run as an third candidate. But of
> course he won't.
>
> It reminds me again and again of Soviet Russia after Stalin's death in
> 1953. Reform was desperately need but all the reformers had been murdered
> and the surviving f/wits could not do it. Or like the Roman Catholic
> Church. It desperately needs reform as well. But those capable of carrying
> out reforms have long been silenced or driven out.
>
> These are grim days but there is a very dark black macabre humor to be
> indulged in watching these neoliberal fuckers trying to imitate Keynes in
> order to save capitalism from neoliberalism.
>
> It is all like Dr Johnson's dog walking on two legs. Not well done but you
> are surprised to see it done at all.
>
> comradely
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> Gary
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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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Sanders chose to run as a Democrat despite lots of warnings and the experience 
of 2016, and while early in his career he might have broken with the Democrats 
he deliberately chose (I think) to demonstrate to all and sundry that his 
radical platform, resonant with and favorable to most young voters and many 
Americans, would (or would not) be supported by the mainstreamers.  He found 
out once again that mainstream Democrat politics is purely capitalist politics 
and that he has wasted his time money and perhaps entire career.  Wythe

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My cup runneth over these days.

Corbyn and Sanders did not get to first base. Yet all they were proposing
was to save capitalism from capitalists.

I really wish they both would quit the corpses they have tried to activate.
But Corbyn will never leave Labour. I do not know enough about Sanders, but
he should defy the Democratic party and run as an third candidate. But of
course he won't.

It reminds me again and again of Soviet Russia after Stalin's death in
1953. Reform was desperately need but all the reformers had been murdered
and the surviving f/wits could not do it. Or like the Roman Catholic
Church. It desperately needs reform as well. But those capable of carrying
out reforms have long been silenced or driven out.

These are grim days but there is a very dark black macabre humor to be
indulged in watching these neoliberal fuckers trying to imitate Keynes in
order to save capitalism from neoliberalism.

It is all like Dr Johnson's dog walking on two legs. Not well done but you
are surprised to see it done at all.

comradely

Gary


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[Marxism] Think Libya’s warring factions are only in it for the money? Think again.

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(This article is pretty informative. I think I'll read his "Libya's 
Fragmentation: Structure and Process in Violent Conflict", written last 
year. Especially since it has this epigraph from Karl Marx: "Force is 
the midwife of every old society pregnant with a new one".)


Washington Post, April 10, 2019 at 3:00 p.m. EDT
Think Libya’s warring factions are only in it for the money? Think again.
By Wolfram Lacher

Libya is a week into its third civil war since 2011. The trigger was an 
attempt by Khalifa Hifter, the warlord who controls eastern Libya, to 
seize the capital, Tripoli — and power — by force. Since he formed his 
own army command in the east in 2014, Hifter had grown stronger over the 
years with the help of foreign support. Now, he apparently believed he 
was strong enough to break off ongoing negotiations over the formation 
of an interim government and create new facts on the ground by force.


Hifter’s initial plan was to get a small force into Tripoli before his 
opponents could react, prompting some local armed groups and security 
officials to defect to him. This would have placed the onus on his 
adversaries to initiate hostilities in densely populated areas. Local 
and international pressure would have forced them into a cease-fire, and 
Hifter could have converted his foothold in Tripoli into political power 
at a United Nations-led National Conference scheduled for this month.


American troops in Libya moved out of country as violence escalates near 
capital


But this plan failed in the operation’s first 24 hours. Instead of 
dividing armed groups in western Libya, Hifter’s attack united them 
against him. He misjudged the motivations driving the militias and the 
scope for opportunistic side-switching once their mobilization was 
underway. Hifter now needs to throw all he has at Tripoli or face 
disastrous consequences.


Western governments, waiting to see whether Hifter would be able to 
strike deals with local armed groups and get into Tripoli, were slow in 
responding to the offensive against Libya’s most populous region. 
Despite the fact that Hifter was solely responsible for the escalation, 
early statements by Western powers and the U.N. Security Council called 
on “all sides” to stop hostilities. As the failure of Hifter’s initial 
plan of attack became clear, the U.S. position hardened. But France, 
which has supported Hifter for years, continues to protect him at the 
European Union level and in the U.N. Security Council (where Hifter can 
also count on the support of Russia).


What motivates Libya’s armed groups?

I’ve been researching Libya’s armed groups since 2011, gradually getting 
to know them and the social setting they come from during dozens of 
visits over the years. The bulk of the forces that have mobilized to 
fight Hifter do not usually take part in the struggles over power 
Tripoli has seen since Moammar Gaddafi’s demise. Many armed groups 
formed on the basis of local communities back in the 2011 war against 
Gaddafi. After his fall, most of their fighters went back to civilian 
life, parking their fighting vehicles in their garages and keeping their 
weapons at home; heavy weapons were often stored under collective 
oversight or in the compounds of commanders. Many received salaries and 
other funds as state-sanctioned units, but only a fraction did actual 
work in these units.


Most of these groups last mobilized in 2014, when Libya’s second civil 
war erupted. But even then, in places such as the Amazigh towns, only a 
small proportion of forces joined the fight, remaining unconvinced of 
its aims. As that second war died down, most grew disillusioned with the 
narratives that had justified the killing. Among leaders and fighters of 
armed groups, the sentiment spread that politicians had used them for 
their narrow ends. In western Libyan cities that had previously been 
largely united in the support of one side or another in the conflict, 
political divisions resurfaced and multiplied over the following years. 
When armed groups from Misrata mobilized in 2016 to wrest neighboring 
Sirte from the Islamic State in a bloody, grinding battle, all fighters 
and commanders I spoke to told me that this would be their last war.


Resentment of armed groups in Tripoli

Over the past three years, most members of such armed groups watched 
with disgust as militias tussled over control of state institutions in 
Tripoli. A handful of militias established a virtual cartel that oversaw 
the pillage of state coffers, to the benefit of a small circle of 
politicians, businessmen and militia leaders. But few were prepared to 
confront these 

Re: [Marxism] By Picking Joe Biden Over Bernie Sanders, Democrats Are Kissing Their Future Goodbye

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Social distancing is not pacifying anyone. True, it prevents mass
mobilization which are crucial for the police of affect. We should not here
that the Tories chose a winter election so Corbyn could not rally thousands
in the summer sun. They did not forget the impact of the mass rallies in
the GE of 2017 and vowed never again.

So social distancing disarms but does not pacify. What we are seeing
gathering is the forces of the storm to come. I have now idea when or where
it will happen  but the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the capitalist
elite and their political running dogs will end one day. That is for
certain.

comradely

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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] Daraa, March 2011: the birth of a people’s revolution | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Very interesting.

Is anybody able to recommend a work that covers Libya's Gaddafi - good,
bad, and ugly - at a similar level of detail?

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> (The events described below are found in chapter 9 of Sam Dagher’s
> “Assad or We Burn the Country”. Like the NY Times’s Anthony Shadid,
> Dagher was one of the few seasoned, Arab-speaking, professional
> journalists on the ground in Syria. Unlike Patrick Cockburn and Robert
> Fisk, he was not interested in triangulating between the dictatorship
> and the masses. It has now been just over 9 years since the events he
> describes below took place. Although I have been following events in
> Syria very closely over the past 9 year, I wasn’t prepared for the level
> of detail and the deep insights Dagher provides. In March 2011, the
> people one activist in Daraa described as “high school dropouts,
> laborers, farmers” decided to challenge the mafia state that Dagher
> analyzes in the chapters preceding this one. I use the term mafia
> advisedly. Syria was run by a family of gangsters who used their power
> to get rich. For those of you who only know Syria as a desolate piece of
> real estate fought over by Turkey, Russia, et al, this reporting is
> essential since it will give you an idea of the pent-up revolutionary
> anger that will explode again sooner or later.)
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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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My cup runneth over these days.

Corbyn and Sanders did not get to first base. Yet all they were proposing
was to save capitalism from capitalists.

I really wish they both would quit the corpses they have tried to activate.
But Corbyn will never leave Labour. I do not know enough about Sanders, but
he should defy the Democratic party and run as an third candidate. But of
course he won't.

It reminds me again and again of Soviet Russia after Stalin's death in
1953. Reform was desperately need but all the reformers had been murdered
and the surviving f/wits could not do it. Or like the Roman Catholic
Church. It desperately needs reform as well. But those capable of carrying
out reforms have long been silenced or driven out.

These are grim days but there is a very dark black macabre humor to be
indulged in watching these neoliberal fuckers trying to imitate Keynes in
order to save capitalism from neoliberalism.

It is all like Dr Johnson's dog walking on two legs. Not well done but you
are surprised to see it done at all.

comradely

Gary


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[Marxism] Syria Used Chemical Weapons 3 Times in One Week, Watchdog Says

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NY Times, April 8, 2020
Syria Used Chemical Weapons 3 Times in One Week, Watchdog Says
By Ben Hubbard

BEIRUT, Lebanon — An investigative team with the international group 
that monitors compliance with the chemical weapons ban accused the 
Syrian government on Wednesday of having launched three chemical weapons 
attacks on one village in northern Syria in March 2017, sickening scores 
of people.


The team, established by the Organization for the Prohibition of 
Chemical Weapons, said in a report that in the span of one week, Syrian 
fighter jets had twice dropped bombs containing sarin nerve agent on the 
village and a helicopter had targeted its hospital with a cylinder 
containing chlorine.


Reports of chemical weapons use have surfaced frequently during Syria’s 
nine-year civil war, and officials from the United States, Turkey and 
other countries have accused the Syrian government of using banned 
weapons to try to break the back of the rebel movement that is seeking 
to oust President Bashar al-Assad.


The O.P.C.W. verified the use of chemical weapons in many of these 
cases, but had refrained from assigning blame for who deployed them, 
raising criticism from activists that holding back such judgments 
diminished the chances for accountability.


So the organization established an investigative body, known as the 
Investigation and Identification Team, that was assigned to determine 
responsibility for chemical weapons use in Syria. The report on 
Wednesday was the team’s first, and it pointed the finger at Mr. 
al-Assad’s forces.


The team based its investigation on a range of evidence, including 
witness testimonies, videos, forensic reports on recovered munitions 
scraps, medical records and satellite imagery, the report said.


While acknowledging reports of dozens of chemical attacks in Syria, the 
report focused on three, in the rebel-held village of Ltamenah in 
northern Syria during the last week of March 2017.


On March 24, the team found, a Syrian fighter jet dropped a bomb 
carrying sarin on the village, sickening 16 people. The next day, a 
Syrian military helicopter dropped a cylinder containing chlorine on the 
village’s hospital, which crashed through the roof, released its noxious 
fumes and sickened 30 people. On March 30, a Syrian fighter jet dropped 
another bomb on the village containing sarin, sickening at least 60 people.


Sarin is a banned nerve agent, and its use is considered a war crime. 
While chlorine has legal uses in industry and cleaning, its use as a 
chemical weapon also is considered a war crime.


The investigative team said it had examined alternative possibilities 
for each attack, including claims by the governments of Syria and 
Russia, a close Syrian ally, that the attacks had been staged by 
anti-government activists to demonize Mr. al-Assad’s government. But the 
team called its conclusions “the only ones that could be reasonably 
reached from the information obtained.”


Such attacks, the team’s report said, could only be carried out based on 
orders from “the highest levels” of the Syrian military. But names of 
those believed responsible were redacted from the public version of the 
report.


Despite the mounting evidence of repeated chemical weapons use by Mr. 
al-Assad’s forces, little has been done by the international community 
to hold them or their leaders accountable. But Wednesday’s report 
provided some consolation to survivors of the attacks it described.


“Until today, my bones, my eyes are hurting,” said Ahmad al-Rahmoun, who 
passed out after breathing in gas from the attack on March 30. But he 
wondered why it had taken so long for an international body to assign blame.


“Why did they wait until today to accuse Bashar?” he said of Mr. 
al-Assad, calling for him to be prosecuted as well as “all the pilots 
behind such attacks.”


The Syrian government has denied throughout the war that its forces have 
used chemical weapons while accusing rebels and anti-government 
activists of faking attacks to generate international sympathy. Russia 
and Iran, another strong ally of Mr. al-Assad, have backed his denials.


The O.P.C.W. team said in its report it had received no cooperation from 
the Syrian government in its investigation, nor was it able to visit the 
attack sites.


The Syrian government did not immediately comment on the findings. The 
United States, a strong supporter of the team’s investigation, welcomed 
the report as a demonstration of what Secretary of State Mike Pompeo 
called O.P.C.W.’s “unbiased and professional” work.


“No amount of disinformation from Assad’s enablers in Russia and Iran 
can hide the 

[Marxism] By Picking Joe Biden Over Bernie Sanders, Democrats Are Kissing Their Future Goodbye

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Re: [Marxism] Sanders withdraws: What next?

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> "Now that Bernie Sanders has officially withdrawn from the race, what
> lessons will be learned by his tens of thousands of supporters? 

It’s a lot more than tens of thousands. My union, the Professional Staff 
Congress, which represents about 30,000 faculty and professional staff at the 
City University of New York, voted to endorse Sander only a few weeks ago, when 
his prospects were already bleak. Sanders has millions of supporters.

The AFT, NEA, UFCW and AFSCME have all endorsed Biden. Some of the socialists 
who supported Sanders are already telling us how important it is to work for 
Biden. I wonder if Jacobin will still be pushing Branko Marcetic’s informative 
book, Yesterday’s Man: The Case Against Joe Biden. What will the DSA position 
be?

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[Marxism] Daraa, March 2011: the birth of a people’s revolution | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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(The events described below are found in chapter 9 of Sam Dagher’s 
“Assad or We Burn the Country”. Like the NY Times’s Anthony Shadid, 
Dagher was one of the few seasoned, Arab-speaking, professional 
journalists on the ground in Syria. Unlike Patrick Cockburn and Robert 
Fisk, he was not interested in triangulating between the dictatorship 
and the masses. It has now been just over 9 years since the events he 
describes below took place. Although I have been following events in 
Syria very closely over the past 9 year, I wasn’t prepared for the level 
of detail and the deep insights Dagher provides. In March 2011, the 
people one activist in Daraa described as “high school dropouts, 
laborers, farmers” decided to challenge the mafia state that Dagher 
analyzes in the chapters preceding this one. I use the term mafia 
advisedly. Syria was run by a family of gangsters who used their power 
to get rich. For those of you who only know Syria as a desolate piece of 
real estate fought over by Turkey, Russia, et al, this reporting is 
essential since it will give you an idea of the pent-up revolutionary 
anger that will explode again sooner or later.)


full: 
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[Marxism] Sanders withdraws: What next?

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"Now that Bernie Sanders has officially withdrawn from the race, what
lessons will be learned by his tens of thousands of supporters? For many of
the 20+ year olds, it’s entirely understandable that they enthusiastically
backed his campaign. After all, he promised very real steps to make their
lives better, like forgiving student debt and government-paid health
insurance. Many of those supporters were probably unfamiliar with previous
similar campaigns. These include those of Dennis Kucinich, Jesse Jackson,
and George McGovern (who actually won the nomination). The list goes all
the way back to Gene McCarthy in 1972. What came of all those campaigns?
What was built out of them? And what will be built out of Sanders’s
campaign? Will it be anything more than just another attempt to push the
Democrats to the left, which may happen for awhile, until the pressure
eases Then they will slide right back into their more openly pro-corporate
comfort zone.

“Dirty break”
"The end of Sanders’s campaign and the history of the similar ones of the
past shows what the “dirty break” strategy is really all about"

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https://oaklandsocialist.com/2020/04/08/sanders-withdraws-what-next/

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[Marxism] Requiem for a (Social Democratic) Dream | Left Voice

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[Marxism] SHELTER & SOLIDARITY Launching tomorrow (Thurs. 4/9 5pm EST) "Stay Safe, Stay Engaged, Stay Together"

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An attempt to use social media tools to organize in time of Covid 19

Launching Tomorrow!
Join activists, experts, and artists in conversation about the challenges
we are all facing today. Share ideas about building working-class power on
the front lines. Strategize together about how to put people over profits
during and after this crisis.
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Find real ways to support each other. Help us come through this crisis
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as we respond to the crisis with solace, clarity, and hope.

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*Join SHELTER & SOLIDARITY for the first in our weekly hour-long on-line
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Frontline Report from inside Rikers Island Jail, facilitated by Mike Nugent
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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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Or how about just using those funds to set up an organizing committee in DC
capable of bringing several hundred thousand people to the city every time
that Orange Reagan Zombie tries to put someone on the Supreme Court or get
another bailout for "working people"?
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[Marxism] Fwd: Oil and the COVID-19 pandemic

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Dear friends: FYI a piece on the oil price war, climate, and the 
coronavirus


https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4651-when-oil-markets-go-viral

best
Adam

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Adam Hanieh, PhD
Reader in Development Studies
SOAS, University of London


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Re: [Marxism] Country Practices Socialism Distancing

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Until Perez started cursing I wasn't sure it was a spoof!!
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[Marxism] Country Practices Socialism Distancing

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https://thehardtimes.net/culture/country-practices-socialism-distancing/

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[Marxism] That Magic Feeling: the Strange Mystique of Bernie Sanders - CounterPunch.org

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Jeff St. Clair from 2016. Change Clinton to Biden and the article reads 
the same.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/16/that-magic-feeling-the-strange-mystique-of-bernie-sanders/

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[Marxism] "There's a man goin' round takin' names"

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by Michael D. Yates
"I am worried, shocked, sad, angry. At 74 and with a pre-existing
condition, Covid-19 certainly could mean death. I am more afraid than I
have ever been in my life. And while I have been chronicling society’s ill
for years, the current moment astounds me; it is well beyond my prior
imagining. Every day brings news more awful than the day before. I find it
hard to cope, to do anything but hypnotically read one sad story after
another. A sometimes-incoherent rage follows. Not only at the obvious
targets but at so many whom I thought would have more sense, less ego, more
insight. It is hard to be hopeful now. I am not.

"Death stalks the towns and cities. We can take our pick of tragic stories.
A couple in Florida, together for decades, without health problems, die
within minutes of one another. The US healthcare system failed them. The
right-wing governor, who refused to close the beaches, has blood on his
hands. A bus driver in Detroit dies a few days after a passenger coughs
repeatedly close to him. The healthcare system failed him too, as did those
who manage the transit company. The latter took action to protect the
drivers only after the workers staged a walk-out. And even now, they don’t
have protective clothing. There are a million stories in the Naked City, so
New Yorkers, take your pick, as the sirens wail and hospitals work out
triage rules. You, sir, will die. You, ma’am, will die. But we shall do our
best to save the rest. The nurse, the teacher, the jazz musician. All gone.
Death stalks the towns and cities.

"There’s a man goin’ round takin’ names"
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[Marxism] Bernie Sanders Ending Presidential Run

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What will he do now? Use the $182 million in his coffers to help create 
the infrastructure for a new left party? Ha-ha-ha


https://theintercept.com/2020/04/08/bernie-sanders-drops-out/

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[Marxism] From the OPCW report released today

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On the basis of all the information obtained and its analysis, the IIT 
concludes that there are reasonable grounds to believe that:


(a) At approximately 6:00 on 24 March 2017, an Su-22 military airplane
belonging to the 50th Brigade of the 22nd Air Division of the Syrian 
Arab Air Force, departing from Shayrat airbase, dropped an M4000 aerial 
bomb containing sarin in southern Ltamenah, affecting at least 16 persons.


(b) At approximately 15:00 on 25 March 2017, a helicopter of the Syrian 
Arab Air Force, departing from Hama airbase, dropped a cylinder on the 
Ltamenah hospital; the cylinder broke into the hospital through its 
roof, ruptured, and released chlorine, affecting at least 30 persons.


(c) At approximately 6:00 on 30 March 2017, an Su-22 military airplane
belonging to the 50th Brigade of the 22nd Air Division of the Syrian 
Arab Air Force, departing from Shayrat airbase, dropped an M4000 aerial 
bomb containing sarin in southern Ltamenah, affecting at least 60 persons.


https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/2020/04/s-1867-2020%28e%29.pdf

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[Marxism] Revolutionary working class strategy for the 21st century – Part 1 – Angry Workers of the World

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https://angryworkersworld.wordpress.com/2020/04/07/revolutionary-working-class-strategy-for-the-21st-century-part-1/

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[Marxism] The Life and Death of Lovett Fort-Whiteman, the Communist Party’s First Black Member

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The first African American to join the Communist Party was born in 
Texas, and died as a prisoner in a Soviet gulag. This is the forgotten 
story of Lovett Fort-Whiteman.


https://jacobinmag.com/2020/04/lovett-fort-whiteman-black-communist-party

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[Marxism] Slavoj Žižek’s Virulent Polemic Against Covid-19, and Stuff! - CounterPunch.org

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Outside, his acolytes — deconstruction workers, panpsychists, old school 
existentialists, sordid coprolaliacs, and Derrida — are coming at him, 
the walking dead, and he waits, like Vincent Price, in The Last Man on 
Earth, he waits, with all the answers, as they chant, “Zizek! We’re 
going to kill you, Zizek!” and he falls and he falls into an opioid 
slumber, a white hole event horizon, where no darkness can escape.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/04/08/slavoj-zizeks-virulent-polemic-against-covid-19-and-stuff/

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[Marxism] Czechia 30 Years on: The Coming-Out of the Oligarchy | Lefteast

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Czechia [the Czech republic] arrived at its current state of 
technocratic-oligarchic paralysis over three decades of competition 
between two pro-capitalist forces and their state projects.[1] We call 
these forces neoliberal nationalist and liberal globalist. Each 
succeeded in developing its own hegemonic state project and representing 
either nationalist or globalist fractions of new capitalist class.


If there was any socialist emancipatory alternative, it failed to 
develop a popular counter-movement during three decades since the 
so-called Velvet Revolution of 1989.[2] Such a third leading force 
failed to develop so as to master counter-hegemonic discourse as well as 
organically represent the labouring class. Rather, its fragments were 
either co-opted by one of the two leading fractions, or have survived in 
the margins of the power bloc. In addition, since the mid-2010s a 
technocratic-oligarchic hybrid has emerged at a conjunction of the two 
formerly leading fractions.


https://www.criticatac.ro/lefteast/czechia-30-years-on-the-coming-out-of-the-oligarchy/

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[Marxism] BBC - Sandra Oh (Eve Polastri) - Media Centre

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(Bellingcat inspires characters in TV series from England.)

Can you tell us about some of the new faces that Eve is involved with?

Near the beginning of the series, Eve meets a new group through Kenny 
and they end up being her people. The group offers the vehicle, the 
means and the technology by which she’s able to continue doing her job, 
searching for The Twelve and Villanelle. They work for a website called 
Bitter Pill which is based on Bellingcat, the independent website news 
organisation. They’re a team who do completely independent investigative 
reporting.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/mediapacks/killing-eve-3/sandra

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[Marxism] Socialist Alliance COVID-19 action plan (Green Left)

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[Marxism] Foreign Affairs: Crisis will accelerate history not reshape it

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When I first read the title of this article from Foreign Affairs - that
this crisis will not reshape history, it will accelerate it - I thought
they were being unduly optimistic. Then I started reading the article.
Basically, what they are saying is that the world was already headed
towards chaos before this crisis. It will only move faster now. As they put
it, this will be a period similar to that following WW I, not WW II. Not a
pretty thought.

"After World War II, the need to meet the looming communist threat
galvanized the American public to support their country in assuming a
leading role around the world. Former Secretary of State Dean Acheson
famously said that the government had to make arguments “clearer than
truth” to get the American people and Congress to buy into the effort to
contain the Soviet Union. Some analysts suggest that invoking the threat of
China could similarly galvanize public support today, but a foreign policy
based on opposing China is hardly suited to addressing the global
challenges that shape today’s world. Meanwhile, appealing to the American
people to put tackling those global problems at the heart of U.S. foreign
policy will continue to be a tough sell. Accordingly, the more relevant
precedent to consider may be not the period following World War II but the
period following World War I—an era of declining American involvement and
mounting international upheaval. The rest, as they say, is history."

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2020-04-07/pandemic-will-accelerate-history-rather-reshape-it
John
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