Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Israel Helped Obama Skirt 'Red Line' on Syria - Bloomberg View

2015-06-16 Thread Michael Karadjis via Marxism

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Help is just a word in the title. It assumes the US was really going 
to attack Syria and Israel/Russia helped prevent the attack. More like 
they helped Obama climb down from a position he had no interest being in 
in the first place.


The point though is that Putin's role is well-known. It is celebrated by 
a certain crowd the world over, the great peace-loving, anti-imperialist 
Russia prevented US aggression against poor little Syria. Their problem 
now will be having to add Israel to Russia in that schema.


-Original Message- 
From: A.R. G via Marxism


That doesn't sound like much help, it just sounds like the idea 
happened
to come from the Israeli government. It's not like they themselves 
offered

to take in the CW or something. I think calling that help is an
exaggeration, more like they just proposed an idea that Obama agreed 
with.


- Amith

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Israel Helped Obama Skirt 'Red Line' on Syria - Bloomberg View

2015-06-15 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 6/15/15 8:31 PM, A.R. G wrote:

That doesn't sound like much help, it just sounds like the idea
happened to come from the Israeli government. It's not like they
themselves offered to take in the CW or something. I think calling that
help is an exaggeration, more like they just proposed an idea that
Obama agreed with.

- Amith



I hadn't noticed that the article was written by Eli Lake, a hard 
rightwing Zionist. I wonder if maybe the ulterior motive was to 
demonstrate that Israel is a reliable ally after all.

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[Marxism] Fwd: Israel Helped Obama Skirt 'Red Line' on Syria - Bloomberg View

2015-06-15 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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Israel discreetly helped President Obama avoid bombing Syria in 2013 
after Damascus had violated his red line against using chemical 
weapons, according to a new memoir by Israel's former ambassador to 
Washington, Michael Oren, to be published this month.


Oren's book, Ally, discloses for the first time that in late August 
and early September 2013, Israel's then-intelligence minister, Yuval 
Steinitz, floated a plan for Syria to relinquish its chemical weapons to 
the Russian government and that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 
received Obama's blessing to move forward with the proposal.


full: 
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-06-15/israel-helped-obama-skirt-red-line-on-syria

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Israel Helped Obama Skirt 'Red Line' on Syria - Bloomberg View

2015-06-15 Thread A.R. G via Marxism
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That doesn't sound like much help, it just sounds like the idea happened
to come from the Israeli government. It's not like they themselves offered
to take in the CW or something. I think calling that help is an
exaggeration, more like they just proposed an idea that Obama agreed with.

- Amith
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