Re: [Marxism] Saving the Planet Without Self-Loathing

2019-10-03 Thread DW via Marxism 
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I think he is correct generally about human's relationship of nature but he
has underplayed the destructive part of that relationship. I'd even say he
is somewhat flip about it while acknowledging it at the same time. He also
has forest vs grasslands wrong by excluding the role of grass eaters as the
*key* element in keeping a balance between forest and grasslands *and*
building the soil.

David Walters
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[Marxism] Saving the Planet Without Self-Loathing

2019-10-03 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism 

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(This article by Christian Parenti is a critique of degrowth. In the 
excerpt below, you get an analysis that I am very familiar with. In 1991 
William Cronon wrote a book titled "Nature's Metropolis: Chicago and the 
Great West" that made the case that the city's stockyards were part of 
its "ecology". This is really batty stuff.)


The truth is, we are not intruders. In reality, humans have always been 
an environment-making species. In fact, every species is.


What we call “nature” or “the environment” is ultimately just the sum 
total of layer upon layer of organism-environment interactions. Thus it 
is dynamic, not static. Every organism interacts with, and impacts, its 
environment. At the same time, every organism is always also part of the 
external environment of all other organisms.


https://jacobinmag.com/2019/10/environment-making-climate-change-green-new-deal
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