Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-19 Thread Chris Slee via Marxism
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I suspect that Stuart is jealous because, unlike me, he didn't get eight 
mentions in the book.

***

On a more serious note, I will read the book because I am interested in the 
history of the SWP/DSP, a group that I was part of for several decades.  I 
expect to disagree with some of John Percy's and/or Allen Myers' opinions, but 
that's OK.

It will be an opportunity to be reminded of what the DSP said and did at 
various stages in its development.  This may prompt some reconsideration of 
what we got right, and what mistakes we made.

Nobody has yet demonstrated in practice that they have the complete answer on 
how to  make a socialist revolution in an advanced capitalist country.  Looking 
at past attempts to build a socialist party may be useful in clarifying our 
ideas.

Chris Slee


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Anyone who made it thru volume one deserved a medal. Anyone who makes it
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-19 Thread Stuart Munckton via Marxism
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(not at all cynical or bitter)

On 19 December 2017 at 21:45, Stuart Munckton 
wrote:

> Anyone who made it thru volume one deserved a medal. Anyone who makes it
> thru volume two needs an intervention.
>
> On 19 December 2017 at 20:24, Chris Slee via Marxism <
> marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
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>> Eight mentions!  I'm famous!
>>
>> I was expecting to be mentioned at least once, since Allen Myers had
>> contacted me to get some info about a minority tendency within the DSP that
>> I was part of in 1978.  But 8 mentions is a surprise.  I will have to get
>> the book.
>>
>> Chris Slee
>>
>> 
>> From: David Fagan 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2017 3:38:18 PM
>> To: 'Chris Slee'; 'Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition'
>> Subject: RE: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
>> Socialist Workers Party
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> As per the index – bingo!  You have eight mentions, however you could –
>> we all could – have considerably more as the Index hasn’t been very well
>> researched.  I found another reference to myself that is not indexed
>> (admittedly it was a reference to my surname only but it shouldn’t take too
>> much to work out that perhaps “Dave Fagan” and “Fagan” are the same
>> person).   I can only imagine that many more are there just waiting for us
>> to turn the page.
>>
>> From: Chris Slee [mailto:chris_w_s...@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 15:29
>> To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
>> tradition 
>> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
>> Socialist Workers Party
>>
>> Do I get a mention?
>>
>> Chris Slee
>> 
>> From: Marxism > marxism-boun...@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> on behalf of David Fagan via
>> Marxism mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>>
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>> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
>> Socialist Workers Party
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>> Hi Gary,
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>> I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
>> the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
>> am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
>> figure!
>>
>> D
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gary MacLennan [mailto:gary.maclenn...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
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>> tradition mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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>> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
>> Socialist Workers Party
>>
>> Hi David
>>
>> That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
>> takeover but that is so long ago now.
>>
>> Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
>> falls.
>>
>> As ever
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> > On 19 Dec 2017, at 8:23 am, David Fagan via Marxism
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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Anyone who made it thru volume one deserved a medal. Anyone who makes it
thru volume two needs an intervention.

On 19 December 2017 at 20:24, Chris Slee via Marxism <
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> Eight mentions!  I'm famous!
>
> I was expecting to be mentioned at least once, since Allen Myers had
> contacted me to get some info about a minority tendency within the DSP that
> I was part of in 1978.  But 8 mentions is a surprise.  I will have to get
> the book.
>
> Chris Slee
>
> 
> From: David Fagan 
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2017 3:38:18 PM
> To: 'Chris Slee'; 'Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition'
> Subject: RE: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
> Socialist Workers Party
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> As per the index – bingo!  You have eight mentions, however you could – we
> all could – have considerably more as the Index hasn’t been very well
> researched.  I found another reference to myself that is not indexed
> (admittedly it was a reference to my surname only but it shouldn’t take too
> much to work out that perhaps “Dave Fagan” and “Fagan” are the same
> person).   I can only imagine that many more are there just waiting for us
> to turn the page.
>
> From: Chris Slee [mailto:chris_w_s...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 15:29
> To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
> tradition 
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
> Socialist Workers Party
>
> Do I get a mention?
>
> Chris Slee
> 
> From: Marxism mailto:marxism-
> boun...@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> on behalf of David Fagan via Marxism <
> marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu<mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>>
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> Hi Gary,
>
> I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
> the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
> am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
> figure!
>
> D
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Gary MacLennan [mailto:gary.maclenn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
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> tradition mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu
> >>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
> Socialist Workers Party
>
> Hi David
>
> That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
> takeover but that is so long ago now.
>
> Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
> falls.
>
> As ever
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 19 Dec 2017, at 8:23 am, David Fagan via Marxism
> mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both
> > mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
> > League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or
> > Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth'

Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-19 Thread Chris Slee via Marxism
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Eight mentions!  I'm famous!

I was expecting to be mentioned at least once, since Allen Myers had contacted 
me to get some info about a minority tendency within the DSP that I was part of 
in 1978.  But 8 mentions is a surprise.  I will have to get the book.

Chris Slee


From: David Fagan 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2017 3:38:18 PM
To: 'Chris Slee'; 'Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition'
Subject: RE: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian 
Socialist Workers Party

Hi Chris,

As per the index – bingo!  You have eight mentions, however you could – we all 
could – have considerably more as the Index hasn’t been very well researched.  
I found another reference to myself that is not indexed (admittedly it was a 
reference to my surname only but it shouldn’t take too much to work out that 
perhaps “Dave Fagan” and “Fagan” are the same person).   I can only imagine 
that many more are there just waiting for us to turn the page.

From: Chris Slee [mailto:chris_w_s...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 15:29
To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist 
tradition 
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian 
Socialist Workers Party

Do I get a mention?

Chris Slee

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Hi Gary,

I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
figure!

D

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
To: David Fagan mailto:dfag...@gmail.com>>; Activists and 
scholars in Marxist
tradition mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
Socialist Workers Party

Hi David

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
takeover but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
falls.

As ever

Gary





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>
> I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both
> mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
> League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or
> Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are
> guilty of many more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build
> the revolutionary party."  No pictures unfortunately.
>
> Dave Fagan
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-18 Thread Nick Fredman via Marxism
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There’s an egregious error from the first volume of John’s memoir (from
2005), which I pointed out at some point but too late before printing (this
was released a bit before the DSP faction fight and split made rational
political discussion with John sadly impossible).

The incident was well before my time but related to one of my research
interest, Australian independent music. John mentions a curious appearance
of the SWP in popular culture was a recording, sometime in the 70s, of Sol
Solbe heartily crying out “Direct Action, twenty cents!” at the start of
the song “The boy who lost his jocks at Flinders St Station”. However, John
wrongly attributed the song to Weddings, Parties, Anything, when it was
actually by another seminal Melbourne band, Painters and Dockers, on their
1984 release Love Planet.

They were named after a fairly notorious union both due to their
tongue-in-cheek punk provocativeness but also a genuine leftism. They broke
into the top 40 for a while in the early 90s. I don’t know why they had a
recording of Sol’s sales pitch but presumably recording urban soundscapes
was the sort of thing young artsy punks did in the 70s.

Another curious affinity between this band and the SWP/DSP is that singer
Paul Stewart has had a special concern for East Timor liberation struggle
since his older brother along with four other Australian journalists was
executed by Indonesian troops there in 1975, and his later band the Dili
All Stars gets back together occasionally for benefits. So there you go.

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>
> comradely
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:30 PM, David Fagan  wrote:
>
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention
> in
> > the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though
> I
> > am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph --
> go
> > figure!
> >
> > D
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gary MacLennan [mailto:gary.maclenn...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
> > To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
> > tradition 
> > Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
> > Socialist Workers Party
> >
> > Hi David
> >
> > That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
> > takeover but that is so long ago now.
> >
> > Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
> > falls.
> >
> > As ever
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> > > I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both
> > > mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
> > > League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or
> > > Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are
> > > guilty of many more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build
> > > the revolutionary party."  No pictures unfortunately.
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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I wonder if there is any reference to the internal document that described
me as "an ultra left lunatic'? I remember being very proud of that.

comradely

Gary

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:30 PM, David Fagan  wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
> the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
> am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
> figure!
>
> D
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary MacLennan [mailto:gary.maclenn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
> To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
> tradition 
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
> Socialist Workers Party
>
> Hi David
>
> That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
> takeover but that is so long ago now.
>
> Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
> falls.
>
> As ever
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 19 Dec 2017, at 8:23 am, David Fagan via Marxism
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> >
> >
> >
> > I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both
> > mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
> > League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or
> > Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are
> > guilty of many more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build
> > the revolutionary party."  No pictures unfortunately.
> >
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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Hi Chris,

 

As per the index - bingo!  You have eight mentions, however you could - we
all could - have considerably more as the Index hasn't been very well
researched.  I found another reference to myself that is not indexed
(admittedly it was a reference to my surname only but it shouldn't take too
much to work out that perhaps "Dave Fagan" and "Fagan" are the same person).
I can only imagine that many more are there just waiting for us to turn the
page.

 

From: Chris Slee [mailto:chris_w_s...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 15:29
To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
tradition 
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
Socialist Workers Party

 

Do I get a mention?

Chris Slee 

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Hi Gary,

I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
figure!

D

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
To: David Fagan mailto:dfag...@gmail.com> >; Activists
and scholars in Marxist
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>
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
Socialist Workers Party

Hi David 

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
takeover but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
falls.

As ever

Gary





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> 
> 
> I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both 
> mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers 
> League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or 
> Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are 
> guilty of many more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build 
> the revolutionary party."  No pictures unfortunately.
> 
> Dave Fagan
> 
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-18 Thread Chris Slee via Marxism
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Do I get a mention?

Chris Slee

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Hi Gary,

I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
figure!

D

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
Socialist Workers Party

Hi David

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
takeover but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
falls.

As ever

Gary





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> I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both
> mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
> League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or
> Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are
> guilty of many more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build
> the revolutionary party."  No pictures unfortunately.
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-18 Thread David Fagan via Marxism
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Hi Gary,

I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
figure!

D

-Original Message-
From: Gary MacLennan [mailto:gary.maclenn...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
tradition 
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
Socialist Workers Party

Hi David 

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
takeover but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
falls.

As ever

Gary





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> I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both 
> mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers 
> League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or 
> Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are 
> guilty of many more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build 
> the revolutionary party."  No pictures unfortunately.
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-18 Thread Gary MacLennan via Marxism
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Hi David 

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical takeover 
but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally falls.

As ever

Gary





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> mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
> League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or Meyers)
> misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are guilty of many
> more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build the revolutionary
> party."  No pictures unfortunately.
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[Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

2017-12-18 Thread David Fagan via Marxism
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Hi Gary,

 

I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both
mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or Meyers)
misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are guilty of many
more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build the revolutionary
party."  No pictures unfortunately.

Dave Fagan

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