Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 9/11/17 8:58 PM, Richard Fidler wrote: What has happened to your search skills? Try these: https://socialistproject.ca/bullet/1332.php And there are other articles as well, including by myself.. If you find a single article about Syria written by a Syrian or an Arab, your search skills are far better than mine. In any case, if you were following Socialist Project on Twitter, you would find nothing approaching diversity of opinion. It is total 100 percent Assadist crap. I was prompted to write my post because I have become totally disgusted with the junk that some asshole has been Tweeting in the name of Socialist Project. If you have any influence on Albo, tell him that these Assadist tweets are appalling. Basically, they are the same things you would read on Ben Norton or Max Blumenthal's Twitter account. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * What has happened to your search skills? Try these: https://socialistproject.ca/bullet/1332.php And there are other articles as well, including by myself... Richard -Original Message- From: Louis Proyect [mailto:l...@panix.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:36 PM To: Richard Fidler; 'Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition' Subject: Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria On 9/11/17 8:31 PM, Richard Fidler wrote: > That is why they are often read by far more people than party sites. > The idea is to acquaint readers with a variety of views one finds on > the left, to stimulate debate and critical analysis, much needed in this day > and age. This might make sense if the Socialist Project ever ran anything on Syria except this kind of filth. It is essentially the Canadian version of Yoshie's MRZine, when it comes to Syria. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 9/11/17 8:31 PM, Richard Fidler wrote: That is why they are often read by far more people than party sites. The idea is to acquaint readers with a variety of views one finds on the left, to stimulate debate and critical analysis, much needed in this day and age. This might make sense if the Socialist Project ever ran anything on Syria except this kind of filth. It is essentially the Canadian version of Yoshie's MRZine, when it comes to Syria. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Louis, you are making the same mistake you often make about independent (non-party) left web sites. They may (like Socialist Project) publish or draw attention to articles that do not express a "party line." In fact, as a long-time member or associate of Socialist Project, I would be hard pressed to describe what it's "line" is other than a determination to help build an anticapitalist tendency in the Canadian left. That is why they are often read by far more people than party sites. The idea is to acquaint readers with a variety of views one finds on the left, to stimulate debate and critical analysis, much needed in this day and age. I know this is hard to understand for someone like you who was trained in a party that regarded all of its publications as "line" documents, and was very harsh with those who intentionally or (as often as not) unintentionally strayed from the "correct" line, but that's life. Relax, and take advantage of the cornucopia of views one can find on sites like SP's. That's how many of us treat Marxmail, in part because you save us from reading a lot of uninteresting stuff in the New York Times or Washington Post, and you often point us toward more interesting and relevant material, including some by non-Marxists, incredible as it may seem. Richard -Original Message- From: Marxism [mailto:marxism-boun...@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Louis Proyect via Marxism Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:07 PM To: rfid...@ncf.ca Subject: Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 9/11/17 7:57 PM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism wrote: > Louis, I don't see a link to the Crooke article. > Anyway as I recall from discussions during the Panitch/Gindin betrayal > on Greece, those two are central to the Socialist Project. So I'm not > surprised if they have a Pink Tide line on Syria (but need citations). It was in the News column on the right side of the page. You can also find this: The Much-Maligned Views of Rania Khalek on Syria Rania Khalek interviewed by Justin Podur https://www.socialistproject.ca/bullet/1393.php I have a suspicion that Podur, who is a total Assadist, is responsible for most of this crap with Albo serving as his enabler. Also, I wouldn't make an amalgam between Syriza and Syria even though they are kind of spelled alike. I have my own views on Syriza that are distinct from Panitch and Gindin but don't think that the word betrayal applies to what they have written. In fact, we should fucking retire the word "betrayal" along with "petty-bourgeois" and "revisionist". It has a kind of musty, cobwebs aura that makes me glad I left the Trotskyist movement 39 years ago. I only wish it had been 49 years ago. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/rfidler%40ncf.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 9/11/17 7:57 PM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism wrote: Louis, I don't see a link to the Crooke article. Anyway as I recall from discussions during the Panitch/Gindin betrayal on Greece, those two are central to the Socialist Project. So I'm not surprised if they have a Pink Tide line on Syria (but need citations). It was in the News column on the right side of the page. You can also find this: The Much-Maligned Views of Rania Khalek on Syria Rania Khalek interviewed by Justin Podur https://www.socialistproject.ca/bullet/1393.php I have a suspicion that Podur, who is a total Assadist, is responsible for most of this crap with Albo serving as his enabler. Also, I wouldn't make an amalgam between Syriza and Syria even though they are kind of spelled alike. I have my own views on Syriza that are distinct from Panitch and Gindin but don't think that the word betrayal applies to what they have written. In fact, we should fucking retire the word "betrayal" along with "petty-bourgeois" and "revisionist". It has a kind of musty, cobwebs aura that makes me glad I left the Trotskyist movement 39 years ago. I only wish it had been 49 years ago. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Socialist Project in Canada--as bad as Global Research on Syria
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Louis, I don't see a link to the Crooke article. Anyway as I recall from discussions during the Panitch/Gindin betrayal on Greece, those two are central to the Socialist Project. So I'm not surprised if they have a Pink Tide line on Syria (but need citations). _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
