[Marxism] Totalitarism/Rape/World War II
And the list wonders why there aren't more women participating in these discussions. ML Thanks for invitation. I doubt that an Iraqi/Afghani/ Palestinian woman at the present time, who has lost every men out her family and just buried her children, would participate in the discussion between academically acclaimed me, analyzing with all the coolness of the bookish knowledge the end of her life. To get some feelings about who raped whom I may recommend the Soviet movie ( early 70-ties), based on the Yury Nagibin's novel The Women's Realm. ( Title preserved) Action takes a place in the godforsaken Siberian village, where there are no more men left alive but still too many and too small children, who cry for food. ( What is also not there). At the end of their struggle for survival one of 16 got the luck : her husband is wounded but alive and coming home. At the certain day all of them are gathering on the shabby train station to meet the man. Tied to the stretcher a man is brought from the train and women meet a human alive but without legs and arms. His eyes, observing the reaction, is the last moment, interrupted by the hysterical cry of his wife. I noticed that long time members of this list like movies. There was even the attempt to remember some Soviet films.(Cranes Are Flying , how about this one?). Now, please, continue quite exciting topics like who won the World War II? Or -who raped whom and how many were raped by the Reds and by the Nazi. And, please, the moderator of the list is right: do not insult each other. YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Totalitarism/Rape/World War II
Lara, thank you very much for this. I have not seen them yet, but will do soon. Here is a short article by me, describing how October Revolution and Soviet Union played an emancipatory role in national liberation movements before and after the WWII. It is in German: *Die Oktoberrevolution hat für die Befreiung der unterdrückten Völker eine welthistorische Bedeutung. Die bürgerlichen Ideologen mögen heute die große sozialistische Oktoberrevolution als einen Akt der „Verrückten“ behandeln und die Führer dieser größten Anstrengung in der Geschichte der Menschheit mit Hitler vergleichen. Sie mögen „Schwarzbücher“ über das „Verbrechen“ dieser Revolution, die „wahrhaftig das bedeutendste Datum der gesamten Menschheitsgeschichte ist“ (Palmiro Togliatti), schreiben. Die Europäische Linke (EL) mag in ihrem „Manifest“ in den revolutionären Versuchen des 20. Jahrhunderts trotz der „großen Errungenschaften“ nur noch „große Niederlagen und Tragödien“ erblicken, um sich dann sofort von dieser revolutionären Tradition abzusetzen. Doch die unterdrückten Völker und die Verelendeten dieser Erde empfingen aus der sozialistischen Oktoberrevolution einen Impuls für die endliche und die lang ersehnte Befreiung vom Kolonialismus und der imperialistischen Unterdrückung. Auf dieses revolutionäre Erbe darf auch heute - eben gerade auch aus Sicht der unterdrückten Völker - nicht verzichtet werden.* Read more at: https://www.secarts.org/journal/index.php?show=articleid=535. There are several web sites which published it. It basically describes what I said above by comparing Frantz Fanon's and Nazım Hikmet's intellectual development and by this it compares Algerien and Turkish national liberation movements and more generally describes the break down of classical colonialism as a result of October Revolution and the defeat of fascism by Soviet Union. I think to understand and explan what is happening in national liberation movements it is absolutely necessary to understand the historical emancipatory role of Soviet Union. Cheers, -- Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, LondonNew York 2007 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Totalitarism/Rape?World War II Re: Dogan Gocmen
2009/8/6 lara crete laracr...@verizon.net Dear friend ,I have noticed and am listening to your voice in this list for quite a long time. Always a pleasure to hear it through this honorable and mostly harmonious choir. Thank you for your last post on violence. As to the movie I described as The Women's Realm , I do not know whether it is equipped with English subtitles and do not know, if it is, what how the title in the translation is locked like. Let me express the Cyrillic letter with the Latin: Babye Zarstvo ( Baba is the peasant's Russian word for a woman;Zarstvo - the Kingdom of the Tzar). Also, I knew Nazim Hikmet personally: he was a happy man after he emigrated to the Soviet Union. ( To add to the discussion of Stalinism/Trozkism/ KGBism) With your help now will research Frantz Fanon's : to my shame have never read anything by him. Would like to ask you some questions about Montequien, to discuss with you his suggestion to control the potential power to violence in humans. But this is far beyond this list. Again, thank tou! Lara, it is a great honour to me talk to somebody who knew Nazım Hikmet personally. We should exchange private emails on this. I am interested in any detail your would like to provide. After 13 years of imprisonment Nazım was released and the regime was planing to murder him by taking him to military service as they knew he was very sick and his heart would soon or later give up in Turkish army. His escape to Soviet Union saved him from this envisaged torture and murder. It is a bit different with Frantz Fanon. Like Nazım, he was very sick. He rejected to go to USA for medical treatment because of racist regime there. In many ways he was critical of Soviet Union but accepted to go and get medical treatment there. I do not know for how long he went there, I think for one year or so, but I know he was cured from his cancer at least for a while. We can exchange ideas on any subject at any time. I thank you very much for your warm words. - Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, LondonNew York 2007 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
