Re: DIG IMG SIG: session for MCN 2002?
Title: RE: DIG IMG SIG: session for MCN 2002? Hi all, There may be a session proposal in the works on issues affecting digital image longevity in the relevant layers (as it were) of physical media, disk and file formats, and image metadata, possibly cosponsored by the Digital Imaging SIG and the Standards Controlled Vocabulary SIG; discussion of this is in the earliest stage, but there should be more news quite soon. Any ideas are welcome! best, Rob __ rob lancefield rlancefi...@wesleyan.edu ~ wesleyan university registrar of collections / manager of museum information services davison art center www.wesleyan.edu/dac 301 high street, middletown ct 06459 usa tel. 860.685.2965 co-chair, standards controlled vocabulary special interest group museum computer network www.mcn.edu At 9:55 AM -0500 2/26/02, Greg Spurgeon wrote: Amalyah et al, As conference co-chair, I think this is a great suggestion and hope that someone will step up with a proposal ... Thanks, Greg Greg Spurgeon Documentation Manager / Gestionnaire à la documentation Collections Management / Gestion des collections National Gallery of Canada / Musée des beaux-arts du Canada 380 Sussex Drive / 380, promenade Sussex P.O. Box 427, Station A / C.P. 427, succursale A Ottawa, Ontario K1N 9N4 -Original Message- From: Amalyah Keshet [mailto:akes...@imj.org.il] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:39 AM To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Subject: DIG IMG SIG: session for MCN 2002? Just a thought: Perhaps theDigital Imaging SIG could proposea session on the longevity (or lack thereof) of digital storage media, for the 2002 annual conference? The theme of the conference will be In it for the long haul --- technology programs that go the distance, so this would be an appropriate issue. Each SIG is to come up with at least one session proposal -- and proposals are due on April 5. See: http://www.mcn.edu/2002cfp.htm amalyah keshet head of image resources copyright management the israel museum, jerusalem www.imj.org.il board of directors, museum computer network www.mcn.edu --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: DIG IMG SIG: session for MCN 2002?
Hi Amalyah et al, I think this would be an important session for anyone involved in digital archiving. Perhaps we could even have a mini exhibition of media storage in the exhibition hall? We had an exhibition here some years back which dealt with 40 years of computing at the University of Glasgow and one of the most commented on exhibits was the range of storage devices we had, from giant 4 foot disks which in the 60s stored 250K to Jaz cartridges etc, which were then one of the lateest things. Cheers, Jim. At 3:39 pm +0200 26/2/02, Amalyah Keshet wrote: Just a thought: Perhaps the Digital Imaging SIG could propose a session on the longevity (or lack thereof) of digital storage media, for the 2002 annual conference? The theme of the conference will be In it for the long haul --- technology programs that go the distance, so this would be an appropriate issue. Each SIG is to come up with at least one session proposal -- and proposals are due on April 5. See: http://www.mcn.edu/2002cfp.htm amalyah keshet head of image resources copyright management the israel museum, jerusalemwww.imj.org.il board of directors, museum computer network www.mcn.edu (From ImageLib):I thought the Kodak Gold Ultima disks were virtually indestructible and was disappointed when Kodak stopped distributing them. After looking around for a replacement, I switched to Mitsui, the only other manufacturer I could find that offered a disk with Phthalocyanine dye and a gold reflective layer. They're supposed to be coated for durability. Mitsui will send you samples on request and they've been very fast with shipments. http://www.mitsuicdr.com/ At one point, Mitsui offered an archival gold disk, but their representative tells me that those were discontinued and now all Mitsui gold disks are manufactured to the same standard. I think Mitsui claims 100 years for their disks, but I think people also need to know how a disk stands up under every day use and abuse. So for the past few years, I've handed out Kodak disks (with digital images on them) on the first day of my digital imaging class. I would ask students to stress test them, and then a few weeks later, when we discussed the longevity of digital media, we'd pull them out and compare notes. The Kodak disks survived 25 days under water (which I thought would open their laminated surfaced). They've been buried in a garden, placed on the rear package shelf under a car window (which is hot!), tied to car bumpers, played with all day in a kindergarten class .. you name it. The only things that never failed to destroy the disks were deep scratches and nail polish remover (no surprise there). I'll let you know how the Mitsui disks fare later this year. Robert Leopold Archives Collections Information Manager Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C. 20560-0152 Visit us online: www.nmnh.si.edu/naa --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: jdev...@museum.gla.ac.uk To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com Jim Devine Head of Education and Digital Media Resources Hunterian Museum and Art Gallery University of Glasgow Glasgow G12 8QQ Scotland Tel: ++ 44 (0)141 330 3691 (Direct) ++ 44 (0)141 330 2689 (Digital Imaging Studio) ++ 44 (0)141 330 4221 (Museum) Fax: ++ 44 (0)141 330 3617 email: jdev...@museum.gla.ac.uk web: http://www.hunterian.gla.ac.uk http://www.gla.ac.uk/museum/people/jdevine/jim.html --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: DIG IMG SIG: session for MCN 2002?
Hello everyone, I am in the final stages of a paper Good, Better, Best: A Small Collection Reorganizes for the Future which addresses incorporating OAI/MOAC data and image standards into the digital archiving process for small institutions. I even have a white paper I've created for the development team and photographer to reference. I'm in, if you want me. Kathi Martin Director, Drexel Digital Museum Project http://digimuse.cis.drexel.edu At 09:55 AM 2/26/02 -0500, you wrote: Amalyah et al, As conference co-chair, I think this is a great suggestion and hope that someone will step up with a proposal ... Thanks, Greg Greg Spurgeon Documentation Manager / Gestionnaire à la documentation Collections Management / Gestion des collections National Gallery of Canada / Musée des beaux-arts du Canada 380 Sussex Drive / 380, promenade Sussex P.O. Box 427, Station A / C.P. 427, succursale A Ottawa, Ontario K1N 9N4 -Original Message- From: Amalyah Keshet [mailto:akes...@imj.org.il] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:39 AM To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Subject: DIG IMG SIG: session for MCN 2002? Just a thought: Perhaps the Digital Imaging SIG could propose a session on the longevity (or lack thereof) of digital storage media, for the 2002 annual conference? The theme of the conference will be In it for the long haul --- technology programs that go the distance, so this would be an appropriate issue. Each SIG is to come up with at least one session proposal -- and proposals are due on April 5. See: http://www.mcn.edu/2002cfp.htm amalyah keshet head of image resources copyright management the israel museum, jerusalem www.imj.org.il board of directors, museum computer network www.mcn.edu (From ImageLib): I thought the Kodak Gold Ultima disks were virtually indestructible and was disappointed when Kodak stopped distributing them. After looking around for a replacement, I switched to Mitsui, the only other manufacturer I could find that offered a disk with Phthalocyanine dye and a gold reflective layer. They're supposed to be coated for durability. Mitsui will send you samples on request and they've been very fast with shipments. http://www.mitsuicdr.com/ At one point, Mitsui offered an archival gold disk, but their representative tells me that those were discontinued and now all Mitsui gold disks are manufactured to the same standard. I think Mitsui claims 100 years for their disks, but I think people also need to know how a disk stands up under every day use and abuse. So for the past few years, I've handed out Kodak disks (with digital images on them) on the first day of my digital imaging class. I would ask students to stress test them, and then a few weeks later, when we discussed the longevity of digital media, we'd pull them out and compare notes. The Kodak disks survived 25 days under water (which I thought would open their laminated surfaced). They've been buried in a garden, placed on the rear package shelf under a car window (which is hot!), tied to car bumpers, played with all day in a kindergarten class .. you name it. The only things that never failed to destroy the disks were deep scratches and nail polish remover (no surprise there). I'll let you know how the Mitsui disks fare later this year. Robert Leopold Archives Collections Information Manager Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C. 20560-0152 Visit us online: www.nmnh.si.edu/naa --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: gspur...@gallery.ca To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: mart...@drexel.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: DIG IMG SIG: session for MCN 2002?
Hi everybody, as Rob has already mentioned, Amalyah's post (and the subsequent ideas) started very successful negotiations behind the scenes between the Standards Vocabulary SIG and the Digital Media SIG about co-sponsoring a session about longevity. The current discussion again confirms the interest in the topic - it also came up in the Digital Imaging SIG meeting in Cincinnati as one of the requested session topics. If anybody has suggestions for speakers, Rob and I'd be glad to receive them. I'd be especially interested in having speakers who will talk about DVD-R storage in the hardmedia realm, and DIG35 and the soon-to-be NISO Standard on digital still images in the realm of metadata. And somebody convince Jim to ship that exhibit on media storage from Glasgow to Toronto...:-) Cheers, Guenter Hi Amalyah et al, I think this would be an important session for anyone involved in digital archiving. Perhaps we could even have a mini exhibition of media storage in the exhibition hall? We had an exhibition here some years back which dealt with 40 years of computing at the University of Glasgow and one of the most commented on exhibits was the range of storage devices we had, from giant 4 foot disks which in the 60s stored 250K to Jaz cartridges etc, which were then one of the lateest things. Cheers, Jim. At 3:39 pm +0200 26/2/02, Amalyah Keshet wrote: Just a thought: Perhaps the Digital Imaging SIG could propose a session on the longevity (or lack thereof) of digital storage media, for the 2002 annual conference? The theme of the conference will be In it for the long haul --- technology programs that go the distance, so this would be an appropriate issue. Each SIG is to come up with at least one session proposal -- and proposals are due on April 5. See: http://www.mcn.edu/2002cfp.htm amalyah keshet head of image resources copyright management the israel museum, jerusalemwww.imj.org.il board of directors, museum computer network www.mcn.edu (From ImageLib):I thought the Kodak Gold Ultima disks were virtually indestructible and was disappointed when Kodak stopped distributing them. After looking around for a replacement, I switched to Mitsui, the only other manufacturer I could find that offered a disk with Phthalocyanine dye and a gold reflective layer. They're supposed to be coated for durability. Mitsui will send you samples on request and they've been very fast with shipments. http://www.mitsuicdr.com/ At one point, Mitsui offered an archival gold disk, but their representative tells me that those were discontinued and now all Mitsui gold disks are manufactured to the same standard. I think Mitsui claims 100 years for their disks, but I think people also need to know how a disk stands up under every day use and abuse. So for the past few years, I've handed out Kodak disks (with digital images on them) on the first day of my digital imaging class. I would ask students to stress test them, and then a few weeks later, when we discussed the longevity of digital media, we'd pull them out and compare notes. The Kodak disks survived 25 days under water (which I thought would open their laminated surfaced). They've been buried in a garden, placed on the rear package shelf under a car window (which is hot!), tied to car bumpers, played with all day in a kindergarten class .. you name it. The only things that never failed to destroy the disks were deep scratches and nail polish remover (no surprise there). I'll let you know how the Mitsui disks fare later this year. Robert Leopold Archives Collections Information Manager Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C. 20560-0152 Visit us online: www.nmnh.si.edu/naa --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: jdev...@museum.gla.ac.uk To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com Jim Devine Head of Education and Digital Media Resources Hunterian Museum and Art Gallery University of Glasgow Glasgow G12 8QQ Scotland Tel: ++ 44 (0)141 330 3691 (Direct) ++ 44 (0)141 330 2689 (Digital Imaging Studio) ++ 44 (0)141 330 4221 (Museum) Fax: ++ 44 (0)141 330 3617 email: jdev...@museum.gla.ac.uk web: http://www.hunterian.gla.ac.uk http://www.gla.ac.uk/museum/people/jdevine/jim.html --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: guen...@uclink4.berkeley.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com -- ~~~ Guenter Waibel Berkeley Art Museum Pacific Film Archive Digital Media Developer http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/ Digital Imaging SIG Chair, MCN http://www.mcn.edu/visig_subscribe.taf guen...@uclink4.berkeley.edu Phone 510-643-8655 Fax 510-642-4889
