[MBZ] 124 windshield replacement advice

2005-07-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain

Hello all,

I'm in the market for a new windshield for my 124.  I remember a 
discussion within the past few months about 123 windshields, but I 
don't know how much of that applies to newer models, other than the 
importance of specifying German glass.  What's the consensus on how to 
get one replaced the right way (to preserve the seal, structural 
integrity of the unitbody, etc.)?  Should my indy do it, or can any old 
McMobileGlass business do it right and cheaper?


Alex Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300D Turbo
'01 VW Beetle TDI (wife's)




[MBZ] New 108 list, by popular demand

2005-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Went ahead and set up a 108 list, the link is here 
http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/108_striplin.net


Feel free to sign up if you want.

If anybody has any imput on any other special interest lists, let me know.

Thanks,

Kaleb
--
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,  81 300TD,
 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?

2005-07-10 Thread Greg Stone

I've been thinking the same thing.  Anyone know of other lists that cater to 
the 108/109 cars?

Greg S.

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:58 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?


  Is anybody from the 108 list still out there?  I seen hardly any  any 108 
traffic since the mbz list went down.  Can't beleive everybodys cars have all 
been running perfectly since then!

  Dave Greenburg
  '73 300SEL 4.5 

[MBZ] Re: Any 108 people out there?

2005-07-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is  not responsive.  I sent a message and
it bounced.

On 7/10/05, Ali Al-Abbasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking the same thing, I really miss the W108 group. If anyone is 
> interested I have created a yahoo group called Mercedesw108 for anyone who 
> wished to join.
> 
> Details are as follows:
> 
> Group Email Addresses
> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Regards
> 
> Al
> 
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?
> >Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:58:57 +
> >
> >Is anybody from the 108 list still out there?  I seen hardly any  any 108 
> >traffic since the mbz list went down.  Can't beleive everybodys cars have 
> >all been running perfectly since then!
> >
> >Dave Greenburg
> >'73 300SEL 4.5
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New lists? was Re: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?

2005-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yahoo sucks, or at least I think so, I just dont like yahoo, cant tell 
you why though.  The idea here for the mbz.org replacement was to 
combine everything into 1 list.  If there is enough interest, I can set 
up seperate special interest lists such as 108.  We already have a SL 
list going but like I said, if there is enough interest, everyone voice 
their opinions and I will get right on it.  Or, you can go to yohoo.


Ali Al-Abbasi wrote:
I was thinking the same thing, I really miss the W108 group. If anyone 
is interested I have created a yahoo group called Mercedesw108 for 
anyone who wished to join.


Details are as follows:

Group Email Addresses
Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards

Al


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:58:57 +

Is anybody from the 108 list still out there?  I seen hardly any  any 
108 traffic since the mbz list went down.  Can't beleive everybodys 
cars have all been running perfectly since then!


Dave Greenburg
'73 300SEL 4.5
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,  81 300TD,
 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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RE: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?

2005-07-10 Thread Ali Al-Abbasi
I was thinking the same thing, I really miss the W108 group. If anyone is 
interested I have created a yahoo group called Mercedesw108 for anyone who 
wished to join.


Details are as follows:

Group Email Addresses
Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards

Al


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:58:57 +

Is anybody from the 108 list still out there?  I seen hardly any  any 108 
traffic since the mbz list went down.  Can't beleive everybodys cars have 
all been running perfectly since then!


Dave Greenburg
'73 300SEL 4.5
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Re: [MBZ] Any 108 people out there?

2005-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

most of em should be around, if they choose to sign up anyways.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anybody from the 108 list still out there?  I seen hardly any  any 
108 traffic since the mbz list went down.  Can't beleive everybodys cars 
have all been running perfectly since then!
 
Dave Greenburg

'73 300SEL 4.5




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 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Zenith carburators help

2005-07-10 Thread Joseph Shaw




I think that's the diagnosis for black smoke-too rich.  But someone more 
knowledgeable will speak up and confirm.


Sounds like you are making much better progress than I!!!

Good luck-keep at it!

Michael



Hi guys

Before anything else I would like to thanks for your responses to my help 
call. I have been taking this whole thing with an easy pace, so today there 
is no work on the carbs and beside I have a huge hangover from yesterday 
excess.
I found a leak diaphragm in the rear carb I replaced it and did the mix 
screw thing againg to lean it a little bit (turning in, Am I rigth?) tooke 
the car for a long ride, I felt it more powerfull and responsive but still 
have some problems in the high end.
I will verify the linkage adjusment, kick down switch and the ignition to 
see if there is something to coment.
Finally when I start the car this morning it left a big spot of black dust 
from the exaust in the garage wall, any clue? maybe too rich?


Thanks

Roberto


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Re: [MBZ] Health insurance, OT

2005-07-10 Thread Slozukimc
My point is that none of this should have anything to do with the price you 
pay for insurance.  Mike


[MBZ] Anyone have cans of R-12 for sale?

2005-07-10 Thread Dave M.
Hi all,

If anyone has 1 or 2 cans of R-12 they wouldn't mind selling, please
let me know off-list - thanks!!!

As an update to my A/C question last week, I plugged in my gauges on
my buddies' 300E yesterday. There was 15psi in the system, less than
I'd like, but not totally dead. We decided to gamble on putting a
pound of R-12 in the system. I put in about 12oz, and the system
started working on its own, no need to short the low-pressure switch.
It was blowing cooler air out the ducts, too. He has the old 'green'
fan switch and high side pressures were getting to 250psi and climbing
(doesn't trigger until 300psi), when disaster struck. My old
gauge/hose set decided to spring a dozen pinhole leaks on the high
side hose and spray a cloud of you-know-what. I unscrewed the fitting
as fast as I could, I'm sure we didn't lose much, but I had no other
hoses so our experimenting was done for the day. Anyway, it looked
promising, as the system was working and might be OK if just charged
up. He's back home now and I may not see him again for a few
weeks/months. He's got an R-12 can tap, but no cans of R-12. I think 1
or 2 cans should do the trick to get cold air again (system spec is
2.4 lbs).

:-)

-- 
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Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 94kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 256kmi (Sportline)



[MBZ] Any 108 people out there?

2005-07-10 Thread finzrfun59
Is anybody from the 108 list still out there?  I seen hardly any  any 108 
traffic since the mbz list went down.  Can't beleive everybodys cars have all 
been running perfectly since then!

Dave Greenburg
'73 300SEL 4.5 

Re: [MBZ] Turned up fuel on OM603, sans IC or WI

2005-07-10 Thread Dave M.
Andrew,

I don't have any data on the rate of increase, as it's simply too hard
to capture. All I can do is note the start and end temps on a
zero-to-whatever WOT run, either time or distance. If I had a second
person who could watch the gauge and write down data during the run
that might work, but I don't have the free time at the moment. At
~100mph it's up to approx 1300F with the fuel delivery increased 0.5
turns.

About peak temps, you should read my post here:
http://buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395

What I'd add to that is I would be comfortable running up to 1300F but
I would probably back off at 1350F, and I'd prefer under 1300F for
extended periods. Even without WI or IC, I almost never see anything
close to these numbers in normal driving.

About the boost controller, I think that may be overengineering things
a little. There's no advantage to extra boost with a cooler engine,
etc. I make the same power with 12psi that I make with 17psi and so
far I can't see ANY advantage to running higher boost pressure than is
needed to make peak power. It would just increase backpressure
pre-turbo and subsequently increase EGT's. Now if we're talking about
replacing the stock turbo with something different, that's another
story (and much more complicated.)

What I *would* be interested in some type of thermocouple safety
switch, that would kill the ALDA signal line if EGT's exceeded 1400F
or so. That would be nice for a little peace of mind on a 'tweaked'
motor. On a side note, it's my current belief/theory that Mercedes
installed the overboost circuit NOT because the pump can deliver more
fuel than needed for factory power specs (it can't), but because if
the wastegate jams closed and boost goes to 18+psi, the EGT's could
get beyond safe levels and cause damage. I'm not sure Marshall would
agree, and I don't have any proof at the moment, but it's something to
kick around in the ol' noggin. Note that later (1990+?) OM60x engines
deleted this circuit but I think they simply had other computer
controls doing the same thing, just in a different way.

:-)

Best regards,

Dave M.
Boise, ID

> --
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:38:28 -0400
> From: Andrew Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turned up fuel on OM603, sans IC or WI
>
> Dave,
> 
> I was looking for the rate of increase during the run not just the end
> points.  Within a typical (current config no WI) 0-100mph run how many
> seconds does it take to get to 900, 1000, 1100, 1200 ack 1300?
> 
> The other thing that I was wondering was how long (seconds/minutes?)
> would you be confortable running at 1200F?  If you could run WOT for a
> minute, what would you consider your max temp?
> 
> The reason why I am asking is I am designing a boost controller with
> an EGT Type-K feedback.  This would allow more useable boost (maybe
> 16psi+) earlier when the engine is cooler and slowly reduce (down to
> maybe 10-11 as needed) the boost to prevent EGTs from going too high.
> You keep the pedal to the metal, as temps increase the boost drops
> which also reduces exhaust back pressure.  I have a few complete
> designs that I am considering.
> 
> I am at the beginning design stage of an injection pump controller
> that adjusts the pressure signal to the ALDA.  The basic concept is to
> adjust the fuel delivery based on the intake temperature and pressure.
>  I don't have all the pieces or figured out how it will all connect
> yet, but I am learning how to program a microcontroller to handle the
> adjustment.
> 
> Charge density should be proportional to the absolute pressure /
> absolute temperature.  Typical charge density is around 0.05 psia / K
> with no turbo and maybe up to 0.10 psia / K with an intercooler.
> NOTE: the EGR must be disabled for this to calculation to determine
> how much air you have to burn.
> 
> At a given charge density, there should be an ALDA pressure that
> corresponds to a near perfect match for the fuel.  This way, when you
> floor it you will have exactly the fuel you can use based on how much
> air you have to burn.  The trick will be to use a 10 point calibration
> curve from no turbo all the way up to full boost.
> 
> One thing that I haven't confirmed yet is:
> On a given 617 injection pump, the pump squirt/rev is independant on
> the actual rpm.  i.e. if the throttle position and ALDA pressure is
> the same at 1000 rpm as 4000 rpm, will each rev of the engine will
> inject the same amount of fuel?
> 
> Anyone know if that is the case?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy



Re: [MBZ] Health insurance, OT, was Re: price of diesel...interesting ...

2005-07-10 Thread shustew
Gmt dosn't want you to run a cash business.  They won't get their 35%.
bill s


   
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In a message dated 7/9/2005 9:53:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Indeed- if you are not poor enough to be covered by Medicaid, rich enough
 to own a Maybach (MB content), or fortunate enough to be under some group
 plan -- you are screwed!  The whole system is structured to induce the
 self employed, and non-benfit employed to avoid seeking health care.  And
 it is scary how that portion of the population seems to be growing.



Ned,

 FINALLY!! Someone who sees my point of view and has"been there, done that"
as far as insurance goes.  Really unfair to the small businessman.
 Another insurance rip off I found out about while talking to my agent the
other day about auto insurance is the fact that your auto insurance rates
are partly based on your credit history.  Agent states that "because of
studies that say people with a lower credit rating have a higher accident
record" they can get away with this.  I don't have credit, nor do i want
it.I pay CASH and get SCREWED EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND  Pretty sad
when I have to pay more for insurance because I have never financed
anything through a bank!  By the way, i have NO tickets on my insurance
record and NO accidents either but yet a friend of mine pays the same
amount for insurance as I(for the exact same coverage) after having several
speeding tickets and 3 DUI's..The agents explanation"he has a
better credit rating than you".
 Might as well burn all of my cash now and get a bank loan so I can pay
lots of interest on money that I would have in my pocket if I weren't
paying loan payments.
THEN, maybe I could get a fair price  The small businessman hardly has
a chance in this credit based economy without credit.  Hard to run a cash
business.

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Re: WA state safety testing (Was: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...)

2005-07-10 Thread redghost
BiL got a jeep cherokee for free that he is making into a rock crawler. 
 It was hit in the back and the hitch took most of the damage.  Being 
unibody, the insurance folks total the car.  BiL gets the car, and 
proceeds to make it better.  Goes to register, and no mention is made 
of needing or where to go to even bother to get a safety inspection.  I 
suspect they no longer do the inspection


On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 10:08 PM, B Dike wrote:


Have the car tested at the Renton test center off
I-405. they know how to test diesels.  Sit in the car
yourself and make sure you carefully set the throttle
during the idle test.  Some guys put a block under the
 throttle pedal.  Do not use the Bellevue emission
testing center, they hate diesels.

--- David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 --

Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA




Re: [MBZ] AC compressor angst - 1985 300C

2005-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>  THIS COMPRESSOR IS AND SHOULD BE A STOCK ( CHEAP ) ITEM AT ANY AUTO PART 
> STORES 

That depends, of course, on whether your MBz mounts the compressor upside down,
and whether you have the parts store order the proper upside down GM/Harrison 
R4.




Re: [MBZ] Health insurance, OT

2005-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley
"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> Seriously, here is what you do.  Go down to your back and give them
> $400, tell them you want a secured visa and a secured mastercard.

You need to do this at a bank which reports secured cards as unsecured cards.
A $300 or $400 secured credit card is just proof that nobody is willing
to really loan you money. 
And loans under $1000 don't do much for your scores, bigger tradelines are
better. I'd try to find a credit union that reports as unsecured, deposit
$2000-5000, take out a share backed installment loan on it. (should only
cost you 1% or so over what they pay you on the savings account) Now
take your loan proceeds, open another savings account, and take out
a secured Visa card. Charge a tank of gas on the visa every month,
and pay it off each month. You now have a medium sized installment loan,
plus a decent sized revolving credit account, with low utilization on
the revolving account. (having a $4900 balance on a $5000 credit card
is not good for your credit score, it makes you look overextended)
Ideally you should have at least one installment loan and two or
three revolving credit accounts, but the above should give you a
score in the 700+ range after the accounts have gained some age.
(oh, yeah, it really helps to have old revolving credit lines,
over 20 years old is good. Maybe you can get a relative to add you
as an authorized user on a credit card that's a few decades old and
has no late payments in the last two years)



Re: [MBZ] moderator approval??

2005-07-10 Thread Joe Knight
Thx, John, Mac.  Little drawback to gmail is that original posts don't
show up in the inbox until/unless someone replys.

joe



Re: [MBZ] Zenith carburators help

2005-07-10 Thread Roberto

Hi guys

Before anything else I would like to thanks for your responses to my help 
call. I have been taking this whole thing with an easy pace, so today there 
is no work on the carbs and beside I have a huge hangover from yesterday 
excess.
I found a leak diaphragm in the rear carb I replaced it and did the mix 
screw thing againg to lean it a little bit (turning in, Am I rigth?) tooke 
the car for a long ride, I felt it more powerfull and responsive but still 
have some problems in the high end.
I will verify the linkage adjusment, kick down switch and the ignition to 
see if there is something to coment.
Finally when I start the car this morning it left a big spot of black dust 
from the exaust in the garage wall, any clue? maybe too rich?


Thanks

Roberto 





Re: [MBZ] moderator approval??

2005-07-10 Thread Steve MacSween
Your post went through, Joe, I have it here... came through yesterday
morning to me.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey, Kaleb, I posted an update of my 124 speedo/tripmeter travails
> yesterday morning.  It contained a number of smallish jpegs & is
> awaiting moderator approval.  Right not I'm also awaiting resolution
> of a problem with my little website that's preventing me from posting
> new content to it, hopefully by sometime tomorrow.  If you're unable
> to allow this post thru, please let me know & I'll withdraw it until I
> can repost with a link to my website for the pics.
> 
> joe
> 
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Re: [MBZ] moderator approval??

2005-07-10 Thread Desert Rat
I saw it Joe, yesterday.

John

On 7/10/05, Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, Kaleb, I posted an update of my 124 speedo/tripmeter travails
> yesterday morning.  It contained a number of smallish jpegs & is
> awaiting moderator approval.  Right not I'm also awaiting resolution
> of a problem with my little website that's preventing me from posting
> new content to it, hopefully by sometime tomorrow.  If you're unable
> to allow this post thru, please let me know & I'll withdraw it until I
> can repost with a link to my website for the pics.
> 
> joe
> 
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[MBZ] moderator approval??

2005-07-10 Thread Joe Knight
Hey, Kaleb, I posted an update of my 124 speedo/tripmeter travails
yesterday morning.  It contained a number of smallish jpegs & is
awaiting moderator approval.  Right not I'm also awaiting resolution
of a problem with my little website that's preventing me from posting
new content to it, hopefully by sometime tomorrow.  If you're unable
to allow this post thru, please let me know & I'll withdraw it until I
can repost with a link to my website for the pics.

joe



[MBZ] Re: Windshield Wiper Linkage

2005-07-10 Thread Joe Mendyka
As an augmentation to this question, that car is a 1982 300SD.  Sorry bout that.

On 7/6/05, Joe Mendyka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy all-
> 
> I've been battling with a windshield wiper problem for almost a year
> now.  One of the ball joints that connects to the driverside wiper is
> worn out.  Judging by the comments I've read on here, that seems to be
> cause for a whole new linkage.  Is this correct?  Are there any other
> options?Also, if I buy the part new, should I take it to a shop to
> replace or can I do it myself?  I know that if it's not done properly
> it will cause the wipers to not operate correctly (I found this out
> first hand).  Are there measures I can take myself to ensure that it
> is done correctly?  Thanks for the help.
> 
> -Joe Mendyka
>



Re: [MBZ] Health insurance, OT, was Re: price of diesel...interesting ...

2005-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Seriously, here is what you do.  Go down to your back and give them 
$400, tell them you want a secured visa and a secured mastercard.  Put 
$200 on each of them.  Your available balance will be the amount you 
deposited to secure them.  Once you get the cards go out and charge 
about $30 per month on each of them, and pay it off when you get the 
bill.  Do this every month.  It wont take anytime at all before  you 
have built up a pretty good credit score.  This way, you have just 
enough credit to get the credit score you want, but are not in debt. 
Many people think in order to get good credit you have to have big 
loans/payments etc, not true.  This little trick is what most 
knowledgable mortgage people will tell their clients who need to build 
or clean up their credit.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/9/2005 9:53:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Indeed- if you are not poor enough to be covered by Medicaid, rich 
enough to own a Maybach (MB content), or fortunate enough to be under 
some group plan -- you are screwed!  The whole system is structured to 
induce the self employed, and non-benfit employed to avoid seeking 
health care.  And it is scary how that portion of the population seems 
to be growing.





Ned,

 FINALLY!! Someone who sees my point of view and has"been there, done 
that" as far as insurance goes.  Really unfair to the small businessman.  
 Another insurance rip off I found out about while talking to my agent 
the other day about auto insurance is the fact that your auto insurance 
rates are partly based on your credit history.  Agent states that 
"because of studies that say people with a lower credit rating have a 
higher accident record" they can get away with this.  I don't have 
credit, nor do i want it.I pay CASH and get SCREWED EVERY TIME I 
TURN AROUND  Pretty sad when I have to pay more for insurance 
because I have never financed anything through a bank!  By the way, i 
have NO tickets on my insurance record and NO accidents either but yet a 
friend of mine pays the same amount for insurance as I(for the exact 
same coverage) after having several speeding tickets and 3 
DUI's..The agents explanation"he has a better credit rating than 
you".  
 Might as well burn all of my cash now and get a bank loan so I can pay 
lots of interest on money that I would have in my pocket if I weren't 
paying loan payments.
THEN, maybe I could get a fair price  The small businessman hardly 
has a chance in this credit based economy without credit.  Hard to run a 
cash business.


 Mike




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Re: [MBZ] Health insurance, OT, was Re: price of diesel...interesting ...

2005-07-10 Thread Slozukimc
In a message dated 7/9/2005 9:53:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Indeed- if you are not poor enough to be covered by Medicaid, rich enough 
> to own a Maybach (MB content), or fortunate enough to be under some group 
> plan 
> -- you are screwed!  The whole system is structured to induce the self 
> employed, and non-benfit employed to avoid seeking health care.  And it is 
> scary 
> how that portion of the population seems to be growing.
>  
> 

Ned, 

  FINALLY!! Someone who sees my point of view and has"been there, done that" 
as far as insurance goes.  Really unfair to the small businessman.  
  Another insurance rip off I found out about while talking to my agent the 
other day about auto insurance is the fact that your auto insurance rates are 
partly based on your credit history.  Agent states that "because of studies 
that say people with a lower credit rating have a higher accident record" they 
can get away with this.  I don't have credit, nor do i want it.I pay CASH 
and get SCREWED EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND  Pretty sad when I have to pay 
more 
for insurance because I have never financed anything through a bank!  By the 
way, i have NO tickets on my insurance record and NO accidents either but yet 
a friend of mine pays the same amount for insurance as I(for the exact same 
coverage) after having several speeding tickets and 3 DUI's..The agents 
explanation"he has a better credit rating than you".  
  Might as well burn all of my cash now and get a bank loan so I can pay lots 
of interest on money that I would have in my pocket if I weren't paying loan 
payments.
THEN, maybe I could get a fair price  The small businessman hardly has a 
chance in this credit based economy without credit.  Hard to run a cash 
business.

  Mike


Re: [MBZ] Phoenix Indy.

2005-07-10 Thread Chuck Landenberger

David,

Of course.  It's Bud Cloninger, MB Motors owner, 2730 E. McDowell Road 
in Phoenix. Phone - 602-392-0686


Take care,

Chuck
On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 11:28  PM, David Johnson wrote:


Chuck,
Who's your trusted indy?  I don't need one right now,
but would like to keep his name on file if he's
"sharable."
Thanks.
David
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Re: [MBZ] Zenith carburators help

2005-07-10 Thread Bob DuPuy
Take a closer look at your distributor. Take the cap off and wiggle
the shaft. can you move it enough to open and close the points, Not
good if you can. Also give it a twist and let it go. Is the mechanical
advance working. Put a mighty vac on the vac advance if you have one.
Make sure you have the vac advance line going to a timed port vacuum
not full manifold vacuum. Having it on manifold vacuum will cause it
to retard when you really mash the gas. You should be getting around
28degrees total advance and have it all in by 2500 rpm.

Bob DuPuy



Re: [MBZ] Zenith carburators help

2005-07-10 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Hi Roberto,

I take it the zenith carbys use a dual barrel set up with one barrel for low
revs and power. The second barrel starts working under full throttle/power?
Have you checked wether the second barrels are getting fuel?
Also check your timing to make sure the ignition is getting
advanced/retarded as the revs go up.
Other than that I have no experience with your particular vehicle.

Hendrik

- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: [MBZ] Zenith carburators help


>
>
>
> Roberto-
>
> Sounds very similar to my problems, only not as severe.  I say start to
look
> to the ignition system as well!
>
> Good luck!  Let me know what you find out!
>
> Michael
>
>
> >Hello guys
> >
> >Today's question it is about the Zenith Carburators on a 280 S M130
engine,
> >I have experience some problems in the high end, I mean trying to reach
> >high speeds or on load situaction (uphill), the cars performs very well
in
> >idle and in the low range but when I push the gas pedal just after the
> >exaust sounds loud (and good, over 2800 rpm) the car start to fail with
> >some kind of stall and can not reach a higher speed.
> >The facts are : engine rebuild 200 miles ago, compresion all around 170
> >psi, iddle speed 850 rpm, dwell 39°, timing 9° BTDC, temperature a little
> >bit over 175 °F riding and can reach 215 °F on traffic with out auxiliary
> >fan (with the fan on the temp back to 175 °F).
> >I clean the carburators (dissasemble and spray with carbs cleaner then
> >blowthem with compressed air), after that I follow the MB mantinance book
> >instructions to tuning them up, since I don not have a CO2 analizer or
air
> >synchonaizer ( I know this is not the rigth way but ...) but with some
> >experience in less complicated carbs I adjusted the mix screws by hear
and
> >the iddle with a tach.
> >The car star at the first try, iddle very good, trnasition well too,
> >perhaps the only noticeable problem is the stall in the high end.
> >I know is a long shot but any sugestion will be appreciate.
> >
> >Thanks in advance one more time
> >
> >Roberto
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix Indy. Was: Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-10 Thread David Johnson
Chuck,
Who's your trusted indy?  I don't need one right now,
but would like to keep his name on file if he's
"sharable."
Thanks.
David
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Re: WA state emissions testing (Was: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...)

2005-07-10 Thread B Dike
Have the car tested at the Renton test center off
I-405. they know how to test diesels.  Sit in the car
yourself and make sure you carefully set the throttle
during the idle test.  Some guys put a block under the
 throttle pedal.  Do not use the Bellevue emission
testing center, they hate diesels.

--- David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 04:35:01PM -0400, David
> Brodbeck wrote:
> >>Good to know.  What about emissions?  How strict
> are they on 
> >>"tampering?"  Would a missing ALDA cap be a
> disqualification?
> > 
> > 
> >>From what I recall, emissions testing on diesels
> varies by county. The 
> > county that seattle is in (King?) required testing
> from what I recall, but 
> > they were more interested in opacity than
> anything. I'd wager that a missing
> > cap isn't something that will cause problems
> provided they don't have a
> > reason to go hunting. My 190D, being a 2.2 five
> speed, doesn't have an ALDA,
> > and was registered in a county that did not do
> emissions testing on diesels.
> > 
> > You should probably tell the list where you are
> planning on moving so that
> > someone from that county can give you more
> specific details.
> 
> It'd be King county.
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Re: [MBZ] price of diesel...interesting theory...no W115

2005-07-10 Thread B Dike
Christopher,

The W115 is indeed a fun car!  Our W115 240D is way
faster than our W123 240D, and it drives nicer.

Bruce

--- Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know these threads get tiring, but I am still in
> my
> first year of "dieseling" and I recall from this
> past
> winter the mantra "Diesel is always higher in the
> winter because of demand for heating oil. Gas is
> higher in the summer becuase of the travel season"
> Fall agricultural use also uses alot of diesel it
> was
> said...can't see, personally, how it's more than
> planting in winter - it should be less. Plow, till,
> rotovate, plant, cultivate, etc...harvest is nothing
> in comparison.
> 
> ANYWAY, What the hell is the story now?
> 
> >From what I know, there are no "diesel refineries",
> there are oil refineries and all sorts of stuff gets
> separated out. It can only be two things, it seems:
> 1. Higher demand. Well, I doubt that as train
> shipping
> has jumped substantially (this happens in uncertain
> economic times and confirmed by my friend who works
> for one of the big rail freight lines) and trains
> use
> ALOT less diesel to move the same freight as trucks
> would. Is trucking up so much to offset this and
> create higher demand?
> 2. Conspiracy (unproveable speculation here). The
> oil
> companies remember that the '70's oil crisis caused
> a
> jump in the sale of diesel vehicles. It's happening
> again. Many new diesel models introduced. Front
> cover
> of local car mag advertized the diesel Passat Wagon
> at
> 30-whatever mpg, etc. Fed gov just passed a $4,000
> (!)
> tax credit for the purchase of a new diesel vehicle.
> 
> The oil co's didn't care in the 70's/80's as they
> sold
> gas and diesel. WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW is that BioD
> is
> becoming increasingly popular (log way to go, but no
> doubt it is happening). I am wondering if they are
> not
> keeping the cost high to DISSUADE the purchase of
> diesel vehicles which in a few years might be able
> to
> fill up on BioD for less than dinoD, which will mean
> $0 from THAT customer to big oil (unless they are in
> the BioD game too (I would be if I were them)).
> 
> In Germany BioD is the CHEAPEST fuel available...so
> with economy of scale, price will come way down.
> (Euro
> fuels are so high becuase they are about 70% tax).
> 
> Thoughts on the conspiracy theory?
> 
> P.S. THe old 240D (new to me) is working great.
> Fun...going from the SD to it is like driving a
> Mercedes go-cart...peppier than I thought (W115
> might
> be the reason).
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri
> -1985 300SD, 207K miles, "Wulf"
> http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris
> -1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen
> Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test
> Vehicle)
> -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"
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Re: [MBZ] AC compressor angst - 1985 300C

2005-07-10 Thread PONDERSOA
ok sorry it took so long to get back to you 
 I had to replace my compressor on my 1985 500 sec it was a 6 model  
compressor now here is the good news this compressor is made by G,M. and it is  
/was 
marked DECO
 
 now I know it sounds fishy but it will work 
 the compressor on your car is also made by GM   
 NOW HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS 
 THIS COMPRESSOR IS AND SHOULD BE A STOCK ( CHEAP ) ITEM AT ANY AUTO  PART 
STORES  what I mean is  all you need to do is tell the part kid I  need a r4 
comp with a single( or what ever your car calls for) belt if he  asks you what 
kinda car tell his its for a  any gm car ( I dontknow maby a  olds cutlass  all 
of the compressors are the same ) that's right they bolt  up and work fine you 
can  take your old one off and compare it 
the reason why this is so good is because the compressor for a  Mb  lists for 
some outrageous price like 485..( for my car ) but the one  listed for the 
Chevy truck it was supposed to go on was 65.00 !! 
same compressor ...same unit ... I saved a fortune! 
 
PS I hold a Mobil air conditioner license ( r 12), and worked the the  
automotive tech field for 11 years before my present calling !!! 
mike collins 
1985 500 sec  


Re: [MBZ] AC compressor angst - 1985 300C

2005-07-10 Thread PONDERSOA
ok sorry it took so long to get back to you 
 I had to replace my compressor on my 1985 500 sec it was a 6 model  
compressor now here is the good news this compressor is made by G,M. and it is  
/was 
marked DECO
 
 now I know it sounds fishy but it will work 
 the compressor on your car is also made by GM   
 NOW HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS 
 THIS COMPRESSOR IS AND SHOULD BE A STOCK ( CHEAP ) ITEM AT ANY AUTO  PART 
STORES  what I mean is  all you need to do is tell the part kid I  need a r4 
comp with a single( or what ever your car calls for) belt if he  asks you what 
kinda car tell his its for a  any gm car ( I dontknow maby a  olds cutlass  all 
of the compressors are the same ) that's right they bolt  up and work fine you 
can  take your old one off and compare it 
the reason why this is so good is because the compressor for a  Mb  lists for 
some outrageous price like 485..( for my car ) but the one  listed for the 
Chevy truck it was supposed to go on was 65.00 !! 
same compressor ...same unit ... I saved a fortune! 
 
PS I hold a Mobil air conditioner license ( r 12), and worked the the  
automotive tech field for 11 years before my present calling !!! 
mike collins 
1985 500 sec  


[MBZ] 300d ebay Parts Car for $179

2005-07-10 Thread Paul Raheb
1983  300D in Florida - no relation or interest.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6783&item=
7985993114&rd=1

Paul




RE: [MBZ] Zenith carburators help

2005-07-10 Thread Joseph Shaw




Roberto-

Sounds very similar to my problems, only not as severe.  I say start to look 
to the ignition system as well!


Good luck!  Let me know what you find out!

Michael



Hello guys

Today's question it is about the Zenith Carburators on a 280 S M130 engine, 
I have experience some problems in the high end, I mean trying to reach 
high speeds or on load situaction (uphill), the cars performs very well in 
idle and in the low range but when I push the gas pedal just after the 
exaust sounds loud (and good, over 2800 rpm) the car start to fail with 
some kind of stall and can not reach a higher speed.
The facts are : engine rebuild 200 miles ago, compresion all around 170 
psi, iddle speed 850 rpm, dwell 39°, timing 9° BTDC, temperature a little 
bit over 175 °F riding and can reach 215 °F on traffic with out auxiliary 
fan (with the fan on the temp back to 175 °F).
I clean the carburators (dissasemble and spray with carbs cleaner then 
blowthem with compressed air), after that I follow the MB mantinance book 
instructions to tuning them up, since I don not have a CO2 analizer or air 
synchonaizer ( I know this is not the rigth way but ...) but with some 
experience in less complicated carbs I adjusted the mix screws by hear and 
the iddle with a tach.
The car star at the first try, iddle very good, trnasition well too, 
perhaps the only noticeable problem is the stall in the high end.

I know is a long shot but any sugestion will be appreciate.

Thanks in advance one more time

Roberto


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[MBZ] Health insurance, OT, was Re: price of diesel...interesting theory...

2005-07-10 Thread NKleinhenz
Sorry to continue such an off topic thread.  What Lee described is what I 
experienced when self employed for a few years.  Family health insurance, 
outside 
government or employer group coverage is a joke.  And what is even worse are 
the rates health care providers charge for noninsured services.  After 
shelling out $600+ per month for health insurance for a while, my doctor 
ordered a 
CTScan to check something out.  My insurance denied any payment (they denied I 
even had a policy) and the hospital sent me a bill for $5000, due immediately.  
I threw a fit, and the insurance company told the hospital that I did have 
coverage, it just didn't cover this CTScan. So the hospital decided to reduce 
the charge to what they would have charged the insurance company for the same 
CTScan ~ $2400.  Even that was beyond my checking account at that time, and the 
hospital agreed to accept 6 monthly payments. Which I paid. But one day, after 
about three payments, the hospital turned me over to collections for no 
obvious reason, and without any notice or warning.  It really pissed me off 
because 
I take pride in being financially honest and responsible.  The whole 
financial aspect of health care looks pretty greedy and heartless to me.

Indeed- if you are not poor enough to be covered by Medicaid, rich enough to 
own a Maybach (MB content), or fortunate enough to be under some group plan -- 
you are screwed!  The whole system is structured to induce the self employed, 
and non-benfit employed to avoid seeking health care.  And it is scary how 
that portion of the population seems to be growing.

Ned Kleinhenz


RE: [MBZ] OT Government contracts...was: Re: price of diesel...interesting theory...

2005-07-10 Thread Royce Engler
Not sure what makes it a sweetheart deal.  KBR bid on the original contract
and won the bid.  I suspect that contract had a performance incentive for
renewal.  At least that's the way I'd structure it.  If I'm gearing up to do
a contract, I want to have some assurance that I can get my investment back
and make a profit on it.

Cost plus isn't as simple as it sounds.  It covers very specific work to be
done, and only that work is included in the cost plus calculation. Where
most contracts get into trouble is when the client expands the scope of the
work without changing the contract.  Cost plus is usually used in situations
where the project to be done is not well understood and there is no track
record to base estimates on.  At the opposite end of the spectrum, in
situations where the work to be done is well documented and has been done
before, they use firm fixed price (FFP).  FFP puts all the risk on the
contractor.  Most contracts are a mix of the two.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Brodbeck
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:00 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: price of diesel...interesting theory...


Royce Engler wrote:
> Nice try.  That was when the contract was renewed.  First contract was
done
> in the mid 90s, and was done on Clinton's watch.  Not that that makes a
> whole lot of difference, except that it seems that the libs wanted to make
a
> big deal out of the fact that it was "no bid" and somehow smear Dick
Cheney
> with it.

That's because when a company with close ties to the administration gets
a sweetheart deal, it's hard to get it to pass the smell test.  I'm not
saying that anything untoward happened...it's just that the way they
handled it looked mighty fishy.  I think it's interesting that the same
people who insisted on investigating a failed, 20-year-old land deal in
Arkansas figured there was nothing worth looking at here.

Incidentally, the existence of "cost plus" contracts in general amazes
me.  That sounds like a hell of a deal.  No matter how inefficient you
are, you're guaranteed a profit.  Wish the company I work for could get
a piece of that.  If we screw up and under-bid, we lose money!  Guess
it's all about who you know, huh?

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[MBZ] Pulling Codes by Watching Blinks or peaks on Multimeter

2005-07-10 Thread John Peterson
On the 602 engine, I have heard that one can count flashes or blips on a 
multimeter to get at the codes being thrown by the motor.  I bought a 
multimeter today, and am searching the archives and mercedeshop.com forum for 
information on how to use a multimeter to read the codes.

On the service CD's, I have the procedure using the MB special tool, which I 
don't have.  Has anyone used anything (like a multimeter, for example) to count 
codes on a 602?

TIA

John Peterson
Kingston, RI
1990 300D 2.5 127k
1991 300D 2.5 73k

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 7:54 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 54


  You are absolutely right. The CURRENT contracts were signed by Bush. The big 
smear campaign about no bid contracts for Haliburton was during the life of the 
original contract signed by Clinton. 

  Just like the collapse of Enron happened during the Bush administration. BUT, 
when were the illegal acts taking place? And how on earth would the president 
know what some company was doing so he could be personally responsible for the 
collapse? Yet, who was blamed for the economic loss? 

  The contracts were renewed by Bush at their expiration. Who were the other 
contractors who wanted the contract? If there was a buddy deal going, why 
didn't they go public with it? Couldn't they find a newspaper that had room? Or 
was all the space taken by stories about flushing the Koran down the toilet? 

  Just like the collapse of Enron happened during the Bush administration. BUT, 
when were the illegal acts taking place? And how on earth would ANY president 
know what some company was doing so he could be personally responsible for the 
collapse? Yet, who was blamed for the economic loss? 

  I'll take the blame for making an error. But let's talk about errors that 
were actually made by the person being blamed. AND, let's make sure they are 
actually errors, not just differences of opinion. 

  I'll bet we could get an argument going about which class of MB is the 
prettiest, fastest, most reliable, or any other "best". 

  Ken
  owner of the prettiest, fastest, most reliable MB, an S class of course.  ;-)


  In a message dated 7/9/2005 2:30:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: price of diesel...interesting theory...
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Good question. Why did CLINTON sign a contract with Haliburton? Oh, I
> know, because they were the company that could do the job when Slick
> Willie needed something fast without bidding on it. Then the contract
> overlapped onto W's watch and it was all of a sudden wrong to have
> single source contracts.

Uhm...actually, the current no-bid contracts with Halliburton were
carried out in 2003.  I don't think Clinton was still in office, then.
;)  (See http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/01/cheney.halliburton/)

It amazes me that Republicans still haven't seen a problem they can't
find a way to blame on Clinton, even after he's been out of office for
over five years.  I thought they were supposed to be the ones who were
against shifting blame and the "culture of victimhood."


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