Re: [MBZ] Re: Transmission gear oil (was) 240D Manual Gearbox Fluid
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:46:03 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason to use ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions is because of the transmission materials. The phosphorus additives in EP gear oil make the oil acidic and quite chemically aggressive to the synchro materials that MB use. EP oils will DAMAGE and eventually destroy an MB manual transmission. ATF-type oils, on the other hand, use zinc-based anti-wear additives which are far more chemically inert toward non-ferrous metals. In my posting of a couple of days ago, I said to NOT use gear oil, but instead ATF. I also said that Marshall would have the exact explanation why (which I couldn't remember). This is the exact explanation. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Fluids -antifreeze and power steering
Curt Raymond wrote: I believe the Dexcool is the horrid GM orange death stuff. If it is I'd get rid of it POST HASTE at worst replace with green stuff, better to go with the correct MB (available from Rusty or the dealer) or the generic replacement the name of which escapes me right now. I'm not an expert, and maybe someone will prove me wrong, but I'm not convinced the orange stuff is any worse than the old-fashioned green stuff. It's just not good for five years like it's supposed to be. The problems people report with it seem to be corrosion problems, like you'd expect from antifreeze that was left in too long.
Re: [MBZ] Painting Wheels
As our resident commie-pinko loony, I take umbrage with your blasphemous mischaracterization--please cease and desist from the use of all such untoward references in the future or face the wrath and zeal of the revolutionary proletariat. End communique. On 7/17/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn Commie stealership!!! You think they really would use a destructive Casey Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (206k) '84 300D (202k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k) Olympia, WA
RE: [MBZ] 2004 cars
Well, I chkd on KBB's site, and listed it as used, with seven miles. Their private party value came back as $27,870. Jerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:33 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] 2004 cars Brother just called. He has found a new Suburban at a dealership, 2004 model that never sold. Price reduced from $42,000 to $30,000 because of the model year. Any problem with buying a new car that has sat for almost two years w/out being started? If I understand him correctly, this car has almost no miles on it, has just been parked at the dealership. Anyone know anything about the 2004 Suburbans. He said it has a Vortec 1500 engine [he is anything but a mechanic!] and is supposed to get 16/18 for gas mileage. Thoughts and recommendations I could pass on to him? Lives in Florida. -- Some folks march to the beat of a different drummer. I don't even need the drum. - LT Don 1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 1972 Honda CB-500K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 102
Or, you could jack up the car and rest it on blocks under the lower control arms so the tires are just barely off the ground. Take Juniors sidewalk chalk and hold it against the tire tread and rotate the tire to make a chalk stripe all the way around. Middle of the tire is nice but either side of middle works too. Then take a nail, ball point pen, or something like it and brace it against the floor and the tire. Again, rotate the tire to make a line all the way around. The ends should meet exactly, if not, start over. I used to do this with just a pen line, but then I used to see without bifocals too. Now take the $5.95 spring loaded shower curtain rod and adjust the length to fit firmly in between the tires. If you adjust the length so you push hard and grunt when inserting it between the tires, that is exactly 25 pounds. Rotate the tires so the rod is in front, and use a small wedge to hold the tires from rotating back down. Take your tape measure and measure carefully from one line to the other in front and in back. The difference between the two is the toe. If you adjust the tie rod ends to give about 1/16 inch closer in front than in back, you're golden. Just as our friend says below, you need to keep the steering wheel straight and adjust whichever side is out. Simply sighting down the outside of each front tire to the rear tire will give you the side which is out. Sometimes both are, generally the right/passenger side is the one out of whack. If you find that the wheel is just a fraction off center after this process, and you don't want to go through all the marking again, just pull the steering wheel off and move it one or two notches in the direction needed. Not nearly as involved as the below method but it works real well. Ken In a message dated 7/17/2005 2:49:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Weekend, shade-tree wheel alignment (long) To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII The tire wear on Helga was getting bad. I didn't want to spend money on tires without at least improving the chassis 'cause I don't like to throw money away... But Helga is a rusty, old beater. I bought it as a parts car - mainly for the engine. I've now been driving it for 8 months... So I decided I needed to at least _improve_ the alignment, even if I couldn't make it right. Oh, and I did it in the garage, not under a shade tree. Do I need to change the subject? *smile* I have a caster/camber measurement tool. I used it to set both the caster and the camber on both wheels. Any adjustments to caster or camber will alter the toe in! Once I had both the caster and the camber where I wanted it, I started to check the toe-in. Well, the way I used to do it worked, but it was hard to get the steering wheel straight and it took a lot of effort. I figured I could improve the process. I decided to try a Jim Cathey approch. (This is a complement, Jim. You seem to have a talent for achieving high-tech results with common tools and materials.) First, I built a spreader bar. The manual says that 20 - 24 lbs of force needs to be applied outward to the leading edge of the wheels. Here's how I made my speader bar. I took a threaded rod, a couple of nuts, a short piece of 1.5-inch angle iron, and a 2x2x6ft to build it. I took the angle iron, marked it for 2 pieces each 1.5 inches long, but I did not cut it yet because I wanted to drill the holes while it was big and easy to hold on to. Each of the 2 pieces are identical. On one side of the angle I drilled a hole big enough for easy clearance for the threaded rod. On the other angle, I drill two small holes for dry wall screws to attach the angle iron to the 2x2. Once finish, one of the angle iron pieces was attached to one end of the 2x2. This one is for guidance. I put the threaded rod through the big hole, positioned the second angle iron so there would be a reasonable compromise between far-apart-for-better-guidance and close-together-for-long-adjustment-travel. One nut is on the (inside) end to keep the rod from falling out and the other one presses against the second angle iron pieces to apply outward force. (It would be better if I had a long spring between the nut and the angle iron - but I didn't have one on hand) To determine how long the 2x2 needed to be, I held the whole assembly under the car and said About here. I cut off the extra wood and then use a 3-inch piece to act as a foot on the outer end of the threaded rod. To do this, I simply drilled a hole that's just a bit smaller than the rod and threaded the wood block onto the end of the rod. To use the spreader, I put the wood-only end of the 2x2 against the inside of a front tire and the other end (2x2 block on the end of the threaded rod) on the other tire. That puts the 2x2 itself practically touching the oil pan. I turned the nut until
Re: [MBZ] Fluids -antifreeze and power steering
David Brodbeck wrote: I'm not an expert, and maybe someone will prove me wrong, but I'm not convinced the orange stuff is any worse than the old-fashioned green stuff. Two problems: Each corrosion preventing additive forms it's own type of barrier coating on the metal surfaces it's protecting, and it's generally best to just stick with one type. Dex-cool seems to do strange things when air is present in the cooling system, and I find that to be an unacceptable risk when the others don't do that. If I buy a new GM car, I'll change it immediately to G-05. If I buy a used GM car, I'll replace it with dexcool at purchase and every two years after that, and hope it never leaks.
[MBZ] PU Lines
10 Of The World's Worst Pick-Up Lines Your eyes meet across a crowded room... the atmosphere is charged with desire... you approach, cool and composed... and knock 'em dead with a line like... 1. Can I buy you a drink, or do you just want the money? 2. I'm new in town, could I have directions to your house? 3. You have to tell me your name, because last night in my dreams, I could only call you 'baby'... 4. I may not be Fred Flintstone, but I bet I can make your Bed Rock... 5. Do you believe in love at first sight or should I walk by again? 6. At the office copy machine Reproducing eh? Can I help? 7. Hi I'm conducting a feel test of how many women have pierced nipples... 8. Hi, the voices in my head told me to come and talk to you... 9. I may not be the best looking guy here, but I'm the only one talking to you... 10. Have you ever played naked leap frog?
[MBZ] Centered Steering Wheel
If you find that the wheel is just a fraction off center after this process, and you don't want to go through all the marking again, just pull the steering wheel off and move it one or two notches in the direction needed. If you do this you will mess the turn signal cancellation way off since the shaft has a cancel 'pad' that is supposed to be in the center with the with the wheels straight ahead. Darrell
[MBZ] Frozen Carb.....
Antifreeze An RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) officer stopped to help a stranded rider standing beside a stalled motorcycle in the mountains. It was extremely cold, and the rider was heavily dressed in a helmet, balaclava and snowmobile suit. In a muffled voice, the rider told the Mountie that the carburetor was frozen. Well, pee on it, the Mountie said. Can't, replied the rider. The helpful Mountie took out his own equipment and liberally hosed down the carburetor, and the bike soon fired up. A few days later, the local department received a thank you note from a father, grateful for the roadside assistance his young daughter had received from the RCMP.
[MBZ] Car shopping
http://www.extremefunnyhumor.com/vids/starwars_jedicar.mov Pull this stunt at a Benz dealer -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Painting Wheels
Hey!!! Go drive your darn Surrender Monkey car! Maybe I should haul a trailer loaded with limp lion or odd lemon cars and leave them in your driveway. Slow the revolutionary wrath and zeal of proletariat blesphemers! I will then sneak of disguised as a hippie by donning Hemp clothing and spritzing myself with patchouli and slip on the Birkenstocks. You will never catch me! Bwaa haa haa haa haa On Sunday, July 17, 2005, at 05:16 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: As our resident commie-pinko loony, I take umbrage with your blasphemous mischaracterization--please cease and desist from the use of all such untoward references in the future or face the wrath and zeal of the revolutionary proletariat. End communique. On 7/17/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn Commie stealership!!! You think they really would use a destructive Casey Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (206k) '84 300D (202k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k) Olympia, WA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb mobile in TX
BZZZT, WRONG, WAY too far away for that thing. Thanks for thinking of me though, keep them coming. Rick Knoble wrote: This one seems a little pricier than most I list. Can probably get if for cheap after the auction ends... No affiliation http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Mercedes-Benz-240D-Diesel-96k-Texas_W0QQitemZ4562845675QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 240D Manual Gearbox Fluid
Why will gear oil cause problems in a MB trans? Dan
Re: [MBZ] Fluids -antifreeze and power steering
Mitch Haley wrote: Dex-cool seems to do strange things when air is present in the cooling system, and I find that to be an unacceptable risk when the others don't do that. It certainly makes it a bad idea in a Mercedes, if that's true. Their design choice to use a header tank but no overflow bottle means that air is drawn in on every cool down cycle.
[MBZ] OT, cd, music downloading and other BS
So whats the story these days. Where is the cheapest place online to buy music CD's? Or is the thing these days to download and burn your own from one of those services? If so, what is the best deal. Trying to stay in tune with technology. Myself I would just about rather have vinyl but thats just me. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Frozen Carb.....
Darrell, It's not as good as King Arthur, but moves you up another notch... Take care, Chuck On Sunday, July 17, 2005, at 06:50 PM, Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: Antifreeze - An RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) officer stopped to help a stranded rider standing beside a stalled motorcycle in the mountains. It was extremely cold, and the rider was heavily dressed in a helmet, balaclava and snowmobile suit. In a muffled voice, the rider told the Mountie that the carburetor was frozen. Well, pee on it, the Mountie said. Can't, replied the rider. The helpful Mountie took out his own equipment and liberally hosed down the carburetor, and the bike soon fired up. A few days later, the local department received a thank you note from a father, grateful for the roadside assistance his young daughter had received from the RCMP.
Re: [MBZ] Re: Transmission gear oil (was) 240D Manual Gearbox Fluid
ATF also makes for MUCH MUCH MUCH better shifting in below 0 conditions, when 90EP is as stiff as sorghum at below 0. Never worked for crap in Detroit iron manual transmissions, junky as they were. At 04:46 PM 7/17/2005, you wrote: The reason to use ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions is because of the transmission materials. The phosphorus additives in EP gear oil make the oil acidic and quite chemically aggressive to the synchro materials that MB use. EP oils will DAMAGE and eventually destroy an MB manual transmission. ATF-type oils, on the other hand, use zinc-based anti-wear additives which are far more chemically inert toward non-ferrous metals. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D Manual Gearbox Fluid
Yeah, too bad it's wrong. Dan
Re: [MBZ] PU Lines
I prefer these lines when turned down for a dance. '' Hey, don't thank me. Just thank someone for coming over to ask you in the first place. '' '' You looked better from the other side of the room. ''
Re: [MBZ] OT, cd, music downloading and other BS
Depends on what you want. If you are after just some songs, go with iTunes or something. Want the whole album, hit wally world or amazon online. Wally is trying to undercut amazon, so really less $$ out of pocket. you do know you are supporting the red army in taking over america if you do use wally world? On Sunday, July 17, 2005, at 07:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So whats the story these days. Where is the cheapest place online to buy music CD's? Or is the thing these days to download and burn your own from one of those services? If so, what is the best deal. Trying to stay in tune with technology. Myself I would just about rather have vinyl but thats just me. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
[MBZ] cars you don't need
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85132245.html --91 300e w. owee $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85025485.html --car hauler? http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85074719.html --89 560sel $4k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85098665.html --67 250se euro $3500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/85139768.html --euro 116 offer http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/85035249.html --For Casey That's about it. There was a 280sl for $30k, but who needs that thing? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] OT, cd, music downloading and other BS
ROTFLMAO I hear that with Sam dead, the little town of Bentonville or what ever in that awkward back in the holler village is now getting all gussied up and too expensive for the locals. Seems with all the parasites of wallyworld moving there, property values are soaring, McMansions are getting built and soon the importation of surrender monkey cheese and wine will take place. Already have a bunch of Spas, instead of simple beauty shops anymore. Just wait until the red army marches in there and begins selling Unocal fuel. Bet it will be made from rendered Falun Gong folks On Sunday, July 17, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: I heard that! g On 7/17/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you do know you are supporting the red army in taking over america if you do use wally world? Casey Biodiesel: -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] OT, cd, music downloading and other BS
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So whats the story these days. Where is the cheapest place online to buy music CD's? Or is the thing these days to download and burn your own from one of those services? If so, what is the best deal. Trying to stay in tune with technology. Myself I would just about rather have vinyl but thats just me. Vinyl is really cheap on eBay, but you have to buy whole collections to make the shipping worthwhile. The old buy one, get twelve free record clubs aren't all bad, but I think the shipping is up near $3 per CD now.
RE: [MBZ] Frozen Carb.....
That is great idea! I once had throttle cable freeze up on my motorcycle one snow night while I was at work. I was in college at the time and worked a few miles from the dorm. So there was about a foot of snow in Raleigh NC, which is really unusual. So I hop on my bike and start riding home, I would reach down to carb and pull on throttle with one hand. I was having a good time plowing through the snow and not having any problems. It helped that I was the only one on the road at midnight except for the police officer who pulled me over and told me to get of the road; I kind of laughed and said yes sir. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell W. Sigmon Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:51 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Frozen Carb. Antifreeze An RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) officer stopped to help a stranded rider standing beside a stalled motorcycle in the mountains. It was extremely cold, and the rider was heavily dressed in a helmet, balaclava and snowmobile suit. In a muffled voice, the rider told the Mountie that the carburetor was frozen. Well, pee on it, the Mountie said. Can't, replied the rider. The helpful Mountie took out his own equipment and liberally hosed down the carburetor, and the bike soon fired up. A few days later, the local department received a thank you note from a father, grateful for the roadside assistance his young daughter had received from the RCMP. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] A/C condenser question
Thanks! J.B. At 09:44 AM 7/18/2005, you wrote: Hood switch is tied to the antitheft/alarm system. No a/c issue there, J.B. joe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Beware!
Wanted to warn all you folks since I put myself seriously at risk yesterday and didn't realize it until this morning. I've been selling some stuff on eBay lately and yesterday got an email supposedly from a seller asking about where his stuff was. It looked just like an eBay email with the click here to respond so I clicked there, put in my password and was taken to an auction that wasn't mine. I did a search for the supposed buyer and found out he's not an ebay member any more. I was real tired and didn't think anything more of it. This morning I checked and sure enough the link in the email is for a site other than eBay, dang. So quick like an idiot bunny I changed my eBay password and then just for the good of it my PayPal password too. I don't *think* anything was damaged but only time will tell... Beware! If it looks suspicious it probably is! -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [MBZ] Painting Wheels
What type of aftermarket wheel is that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:06 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting Wheels This is after the paint is all gone and ready to begin
Re: [MBZ] OT, cd, music downloading and other BS
No problem, they sell guns there too. --R On 7/17/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you do know you are supporting the red army in taking over america if you do use wally world?
[MBZ] HELP 300SDL ROTOR REMOVAL
-- Message: 9 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:22:33 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] HELP 300SDL ROTOR REMOVAL To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Yes, hub has to come off since the rotor is bolted to it from the back. 10mm allen driver, very tight. Repack bearings while you are at it, using synthetic grease. McParts will have the seal, bearings too if you need them (Timken). Peter -- Is this seal in the front/outer part of the hub by the cap or the back/inner part of the hub. What is it a grease seal? Roger _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] Fluids -antifreeze and power steering
ok, so if you had a GM car, you'd change out the dexcool from MB coolant? At 05:29 PM 7/17/2005, you wrote: Whomever told you that about the Mobil 1 in the ps pump is an idiot, quit listening to that person. I did that on my car over a year (and like 25kmi) ago and its been just fine, doesn't leak a bit. Many other listers have also been using it. I believe the Dexcool is the horrid GM orange death stuff. If it is I'd get rid of it POST HASTE at worst replace with green stuff, better to go with the correct MB (available from Rusty or the dealer) or the generic replacement the name of which escapes me right now. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 242kmi Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:00:09 -0400 From: Anthony Galioto http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]YY=38375order=downsort=datepos=0view=ahead=b[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Fluids -antifreeze and power steering To: Mercedes mailing list http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]YY=38375order=downsort=datepos=0view=ahead=b[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]YY=38375order=downsort=datepos=0view=ahead=b[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just changed the anti freeze and power steering fluids on my 1983 240D. In the PS I put Mobil 1 ATF. I have now been told this would damage the seals. Is this correct ? Should I drain it and install regular PS Fluid? The manual says to use ATF. I also changed the antifreeze. I installed Prestone Dex-Cool, it was more expensive so I thought it's better. I am now worried because I read the container and it says its for an aluminum engine. Should I drain and replace this fluid? Thanks, Anthony 1983 240D 62900 mi __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fluids -antifreeze and power steering
do you know what the differences are between expensive german febi ATF in the blue bottle and plain old Dexron from Costco? they look, feel and smell teh same to me. also, any idea what the difference is with the febi P/S fluid and ATF? we sell tons of the stuff, but the point eludes me At 05:19 PM 7/17/2005, you wrote: Anthony Galioto wrote: I just changed the anti freeze and power steering fluids on my 1983 240D. In the PS I put Mobil 1 ATF. I have now been told this would damage the seals. Is this correct ? Should I drain it and install regular PS Fluid? The manual says to use ATF. I also changed the antifreeze. I installed Prestone Dex-Cool, it was more expensive so I thought it's better. I am now worried because I read the container and it says its for an aluminum engine. Should I drain and replace this fluid? Your car came with ATF in the power steering system. Only problem with using modern PS fluid is that it gets pretty stiff in VERY cold weather. Mobil 1 ATF solves that problem. Mercedes makes it's own PS fluid now, but ATF is fine for older (before the '90s) Mercedes. The Prestone Dex-Cool is NOT really suitable. Leave it in for a year or so and then completely flush it and change to Zerex G-05 or Mercedes anti-freeze (they are identical). There are NO other anti-freeze mixtures that meet the Mercedes requirements. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
This is a W115 240D...I think it's a 22mm allen wrench, which is quite large! Anway, if someone could confirm b4 I buy the tool, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 207K miles, Wulf http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D Diff Plug Removal?
Autozone had a set of hex/allen sockets (well, the reverse of a socket, whatever you call it, that fit on your socket ratchet) that included the correct size (which I forget, you might be correct) for not much money ($6 or7), look pretty good too. Hit it with a lot of PB Blaster before trying to loosen it if it won't budge.. --R R A Bennell wrote: I have had the car for a week now and so far I have changed the oil and filter and put in a new air filter. The AT fluid looks and smells fine so I likely won't do anything with it immediately. The coolant looks ok in the rad so again, I likely won't change it immediately. I want to pull the plug in the differential and at least check the oil level as it appears there may be slight leakage - the diff is a bit wet but no puddles form under the car when parked. Is the plug 14mm? That seemed to be the most likely size. I tried using the head of bolt as the hex wrench but had a hard time holding it well enough and the two nuts that I locked together to form the part that I would turn insisted on moving before the plug moved. If I cannot find the proper hex wrench, I may weld the nut on so that it cannot readily turn. Any other suggestions for breaking it loose without damage? I drove the car over 300 miles at highway speeds on Saturday and it seemed to be fine. Only did about 23 mpg (corrected from liters to US gallons). That seems a bit low but it has not been run much for several years so using it will likely be good for it. Oil pressure stays pegged at speed and temperature holds steady. No obvious issues to be concerned with. Oil pressure drops to 20# at idle when hot. Starts fine hot or cold. So far I'm a happy camper. Randy ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Pending
WOMEN JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR! A couple had been debating the purchase of a new auto for weeks. He wanted a new truck. She wanted a fast little sports car so she could zip through traffic around town. He would have settled on any beat up old truck, but everything she seemed to like was way out of their price range. Look ! she said. I want something that goes from 0 to 200 in 4 seconds or less. And my birthday is coming up. You could surprise me. For her birthday, he bought her a brand new bathroom scale. Funeral services are pending. . . .
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Brakes
I've been out of the country for a week, so forgive me if this has already been covered. I just built a pressure bleeder per: http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm and now need to get busy and use it Ther have been a few changes to the Ace tank since the article was written - I used the sprayer hosa that came with it rather than new due to the screw-on connection that replaced the clamp on connection in the article. On 7/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: The Miti-Vac will work fine, I've done several with it now. Calipers If there is any air in the ABS device, a vacuum bleeder WILL NOT WORK. Mercedes points out that 25-30 psi (actually 2 bar) is required in section 41-0010 of the workshop manual or CD. If a pressure system is NOT available, you can pump the pedal, but if the master cylinder is more than a few years old, there is a very real chance you will damage the seals when they move past the limited cylinder area usually traversed. Don't forget to completely flush the fluid (it's expected to be flushed/changed every 2-3 years - sooner if you use DOT-3 fluid rather than DOT-4). Marshall -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
[MBZ] Choking +
Encounter in a Texas Bar A Texan was having a drink at a bar with an old friend when he noticed an attractive and chesty young lady seated at the bar eating a hamburger. As he held eye contact with her, she swallowed a bite and it must have gone down the wrong pipe for she began choking. She was turning blue and obviously in serious respiratory distress. The Texan said to his friend, 'That there gal is having a bad time!' The other agreed and said, 'Think we should go help?' 'You bet,' and with that he ran over and said, 'Can you breathe' She shook her head no. He said, 'Can you speak??' She again shook her head no. With that, he pulled up her skirt and licked her on the butt. So shocked was the young woman that she coughed up the obstruction and began to breathe, with great relief. Smiling to his friend, the Texan said, 'Funny how that Hind Lick maneuver always works'
Re: [MBZ] Beware!
One of the things that will tell if it's a fake email or not is when you open it up. Does it say your registered name or does it say Dear Valued Ebayer I read the Paypal spoof FAQ and that was a heads-up that they say is a dead giveaway. The other thing is to always type in their URL manually when you need to go there. Hopefully you're still safe! Perhaps you should contact eBay and let them know just in case anytrhing happens down the road. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D Diff Plug Removal?
A 9/16 inch hex key should work fine without modification. I used a 9/16 when I was unable to find a 14mm. The 9/16 is ever so slightly larger -- but works on the differential plug. Granger has both a 14mm and 9/16 hex key. I was unable to find them at the local AutoZone. Dan Steadman 1980 300D 1980 300TD - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D Diff Plug Removal? A long time ago I bought the next larger English size Allen wrench, ground down the sides just enough to fit the plug. It's been working fine for for over thirty years now. The plug is usually pretty tight. Clean it really well to get a good fit with the wrench, use PB Blaster as Rich said. I use the handle from a bottle jack as a cheater bar on the Allen wrench, lie under the car (supported on stands), and kick the handle to loosen the plug. On 7/18/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Autozone had a set of hex/allen sockets (well, the reverse of a socket, whatever you call it, that fit on your socket ratchet) that included the correct size (which I forget, you might be correct) for not much money ($6 or7), look pretty good too. Hit it with a lot of PB Blaster before trying to loosen it if it won't budge.. --R R A Bennell wrote: I want to pull the plug in the differential and at least check the oil level as it appears there may be slight leakage - the diff is a bit wet but no puddles form under the car when parked. Is the plug 14mm? That seemed to be the most likely size. I tried using the head of bolt as the hex wrench but had a hard time holding it well enough and the two nuts that I locked together to form the part that I would turn insisted on moving before the plug moved. If I cannot find the proper hex wrench, I may weld the nut on so that it cannot readily turn. Any other suggestions for breaking it loose without damage? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
The outside of the drain plug will accept a pipe wrench. DWS Christopher McCann wrote: it's a giant allen screw...I can't see how a pipe wrench would work...if there is a trick, let me know. Christopher --- Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pipe wrench works just fine. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:41:01 -0700 (PDT), Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Chris, Does your W115 240D really have a separate drain plug for fuel tank? On W123/W124/W126/W201, there is a fuel strainer at the bottom of the fuel tank that requires a 46mm wrench or pipe wrench to open. Are you trying to clean your fuel tank? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 207K miles, Wulf http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fluids -antifreeze and power steering
Thanks everyone. Drained and flushed the red devil out of my cooling system. It now happyly has Zerox G-05. My car thanks you too. Anthony New York 83 240D 69000mi On 7/18/05, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well one difference is that you're making a living selling the stuff. next question? ;-) Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Re: Centered Steering Wheel
Depending on how far you turn and how far you move the wheel, yes you're right. Most wheels cancel with about a sixth of a turn or so. (12 o'clock to 10 or 2 o'clock to click off) When you move one notch your moving 1/24th or so. (from 12 o'clock to 1130) so not really enough to notice. And yes if you've got a worn steering box you are centering in a different area and might notice a pull. And if your working on a car with a steering wheel airbag it's more trouble than it's worth. Remember that we're working on a beater that you don't want to spend money on. I don't recommend this for your good car, but only one you're trying to get some cheap mileage out of. Ken In a message dated 7/17/2005 6:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Centered Steering Wheel To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed If you find that the wheel is just a fraction off center after this process, and you don't want to go through all the marking again, just pull the steering wheel off and move it one or two notches in the direction needed. If you do this you will mess the turn signal cancellation way off since the shaft has a cancel 'pad' that is supposed to be in the center with the with the wheels straight ahead. Darrell
Re: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
I am not familiar with the 115, but i think it is the same as 110. You can use a large bolt head or, as Darrell says, use a pipe wrench on the outer edge. My weapon of choice is large channel locks if I can't find a big bolt head. Once the plug is loose, the screen comes out with it, just the same as a 123. At 12:43 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: there is no way to use a pipe wrench...it is a huge allen head screw. I measured it and it looked like 21 or 22mm. Stopped by Star Parts this morning and he told me 22mm. Before I bought the tool, I thought I'd verify with list. Yes, I am trying drain all the rust out (that I suspect is in there) and perhaps other crud. When purchased, the fuel cap was off and now the prefilter is crudding up fast (with rust)...rather than changing filters once a week, I thought I should strike at the root and drain/flush. There is nothing down there that takes a 46mm wrench (wish there was, that I can handle). I know you can drain from the fuel hose, but I think the crud is severe enough to warrant draining through the strainer, which I think can be removed once the GIANT allen screw is out. Indy agreed that would be best course of action. Thoughts? I might try a 22mm bolt head...but I would prefer to have a real tool... Thanks,
[MBZ] Re: Beware!
Pay Pal, Wal Mart and any baked good or sugar-laden item that undermines my delardassification process is of the devil. AZ Bob...it's only 109 right now... On 7/18/05, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the things that will tell if it's a fake email or not is when you open it up. Does it say your registered name or does it say Dear Valued Ebayer I read the Paypal spoof FAQ and that was a heads-up that they say is a dead giveaway. The other thing is to always type in their URL manually when you need to go there. Hopefully you're still safe! Perhaps you should contact eBay and let them know just in case anytrhing happens down the road. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
Like Loren said, if you can find a bolt with 22mm head and two nuts you may be able to make a special tool for this. Jam the two nuts on the one end, put the bolt head (the other end) in the strainer recess. Then you could put an open wrench on the inner nut to break the strainer loose. May worth a try. Tan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not familiar with the 115, but i think it is the same as 110. You can use a large bolt head or, as Darrell says, use a pipe wrench on the outer edge. My weapon of choice is large channel locks if I can't find a big bolt head. Once the plug is loose, the screen comes out with it, just the same as a 123. At 12:43 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: there is no way to use a pipe wrench...it is a huge allen head screw. I measured it and it looked like 21 or 22mm. Stopped by Star Parts this morning and he told me 22mm. Before I bought the tool, I thought I'd verify with list. Yes, I am trying drain all the rust out (that I suspect is in there) and perhaps other crud. When purchased, the fuel cap was off and now the prefilter is crudding up fast (with rust)...rather than changing filters once a week, I thought I should strike at the root and drain/flush. There is nothing down there that takes a 46mm wrench (wish there was, that I can handle). I know you can drain from the fuel hose, but I think the crud is severe enough to warrant draining through the strainer, which I think can be removed once the GIANT allen screw is out. Indy agreed that would be best course of action. Thoughts? I might try a 22mm bolt head...but I would prefer to have a real tool... Thanks, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
RE: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
Or just put a pipe wrench on the threaded part of the bolt. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tan Qu Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench? Like Loren said, if you can find a bolt with 22mm head and two nuts you may be able to make a special tool for this. Jam the two nuts on the one end, put the bolt head (the other end) in the strainer recess. Then you could put an open wrench on the inner nut to break the strainer loose. May worth a try. Tan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not familiar with the 115, but i think it is the same as 110. You can use a large bolt head or, as Darrell says, use a pipe wrench on the outer edge. My weapon of choice is large channel locks if I can't find a big bolt head. Once the plug is loose, the screen comes out with it, just the same as a 123. At 12:43 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: there is no way to use a pipe wrench...it is a huge allen head screw. I measured it and it looked like 21 or 22mm. Stopped by Star Parts this morning and he told me 22mm. Before I bought the tool, I thought I'd verify with list. Yes, I am trying drain all the rust out (that I suspect is in there) and perhaps other crud. When purchased, the fuel cap was off and now the prefilter is crudding up fast (with rust)...rather than changing filters once a week, I thought I should strike at the root and drain/flush. There is nothing down there that takes a 46mm wrench (wish there was, that I can handle). I know you can drain from the fuel hose, but I think the crud is severe enough to warrant draining through the strainer, which I think can be removed once the GIANT allen screw is out. Indy agreed that would be best course of action. Thoughts? I might try a 22mm bolt head...but I would prefer to have a real tool... Thanks, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1974 Mercedes-Benz Bus in PDX $3400
I spotted this on Portland craigslist. I'm sure that someone's lookin' for one of these. http://portland.craigslist.org/car/85281338.html Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300D 133K miles, Ingrid 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie 1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher, SOLD!
RE: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
A bolt head would be alot easier to file down than a hardened steel allen wrench and would be almost as easy to use. Christopher --- Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just put a pipe wrench on the threaded part of the bolt. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tan Qu Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench? Like Loren said, if you can find a bolt with 22mm head and two nuts you may be able to make a special tool for this. Jam the two nuts on the one end, put the bolt head (the other end) in the strainer recess. Then you could put an open wrench on the inner nut to break the strainer loose. May worth a try. Tan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not familiar with the 115, but i think it is the same as 110. You can use a large bolt head or, as Darrell says, use a pipe wrench on the outer edge. My weapon of choice is large channel locks if I can't find a big bolt head. Once the plug is loose, the screen comes out with it, just the same as a 123. At 12:43 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: there is no way to use a pipe wrench...it is a huge allen head screw. I measured it and it looked like 21 or 22mm. Stopped by Star Parts this morning and he told me 22mm. Before I bought the tool, I thought I'd verify with list. Yes, I am trying drain all the rust out (that I suspect is in there) and perhaps other crud. When purchased, the fuel cap was off and now the prefilter is crudding up fast (with rust)...rather than changing filters once a week, I thought I should strike at the root and drain/flush. There is nothing down there that takes a 46mm wrench (wish there was, that I can handle). I know you can drain from the fuel hose, but I think the crud is severe enough to warrant draining through the strainer, which I think can be removed once the GIANT allen screw is out. Indy agreed that would be best course of action. Thoughts? I might try a 22mm bolt head...but I would prefer to have a real tool... Thanks, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 207K miles, Wulf http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] ethanol and biodiesel - waste of energy?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ethanol_study
Re: [MBZ] ethanol and biodiesel - waste of energy?
WHO funded the study? At 03:52 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ethanol_study ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ethanol and biodiesel - waste of energy?
Loren Faeth wrote: WHO funded the study? I didn't see funding mentioned in the article, but I doubt it was the World Health Organization. Their funding goes for things like new gold plated bathtubs for Koffi Annan's son's house.
[MBZ] OT - Looking for Bruce Dike in Seattle!!!!
Hey Bruce, I chatted with John, our mutual friend today... It's a small world. Send me an email offline --- Take care, Chuck Landenberger Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD w/340kmiles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] New wheels for the wagon, '87 300TD
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 08:46:58AM -0700, Joe Knight wrote: About to head out to look at a set of 6 1/2 J X 15 H 2 8-holers to replace the rather tired looking originals on the wagon. Assuming good cosmetics with only the most minor curb rash on a couple of them, Dayton tires @~60% tread, does $250 sound reasonable? I'll probably be replacing the tires fairly soon anyway. My current inclination is to stick w/ stock size tires. Sounds like a reasonable price to me, Joe. I don't see any reason to vary from stock size tires - neither of my 87s show any signs that the tire can't keep up with the rest of the car. The daytons should suit you fine, friends have run them on 5.0 mustangs which rely heavily on the tire to keep the car pointed headlights forward. Someone else mentioned lug bolts possibly being different - I don't expect that they are - the difference I'm aware of is between 14 and 15 tires - but the EPC will help you out - inside the wheel should be the part number, and you can figure out what bolt should work for the wheels you have. (At least, that is how I got the correct bolts for the 190D when I upgraded it from the stock 14 wheels to the 15 wheels it has now). K
Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 11:32:18AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I turned off the engine, let the pressure off, restarted the engine then added the coolant. It was not pegged anymore but still running way way too hot. It may not have been filled up all the way, I will mess with it some more here in a little bit. She said the light was not on and the temp was not hot, the car was in the driveway running less than 1 min. I tried to explain how it was impossible for all the coolant to have gone bye bye that quick without being spewed all over the ground. There was none. Cant argue with a woman. Friend of mine works for a TV station. I stopped by the station one day, and noticed that one of the XJ's was gone, and asked him about it. Apparently a reporter spidered the head (think cracks that look like a spider web) going up a steep hill. XJ wasn't worth fixing, it was a 90 with over 240k on it, four banger five speed, but before that, needed *NOTHING* but brakes, tires, oil, and gas since new - station was just waiting until it costed them money to off it. Cause was a healthy crack in a radiator hose. They asked the reporter if the jeep was running warm, and they said that it started to get really hot, but all of a sudden cooled down to the bottom of the gauge, so they figured it fixed itself, and attempted to drive another 35 miles to the story. They didn't make it. K
[MBZ] ACC2 Woes
Greetings listers! I'm having some electrical issues with the ACC2 system in our '80 300TD wagon. Hopefully someone has been down a similar road before and can spare some insight. The symptoms are pretty simple: fuse 3 self-destructs when the pushbutton module is in the bi-lev or auto functions, and the compressor stops functioning. The compressor functions as normal in defrost mode, and in general, the ACC servo functions as normal - vents open as necessary, temperare regulated just nicely. A fuse lasts maybe 2-3 trips before blowing up. I've blown the fuse in both Auto-Hi and Bi-Level, without use of the other function until the fuse blew and was replaced. As part of my troubleshooting, I swapped out the amplifier with a known good spare, and the symptoms remain. I'm a pessimist, so I'm suspecting that the compressor is drawing too much current. So, are there any obvious places I should look, and where should I begin my tests to narrow down and eventually isolate the problem component? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 167+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] ethanol and biodiesel - waste of energy?
Cornell and Berkeley, those two bastions of conservative thought. ...Kevin Loren Faeth wrote: WHO funded the study? At 03:52 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ethanol_study ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
Wow. I really would like a 22mm socket to put on my breaker bar...somethings just can't be simple. Even Snap On only sells metric L-allen wrenches up to 19mm. Urgh. Will report on how it goes. BFH, never heard that one before, but I got it right away. Might be easier to slowly jack it into to opening with my Toyota jack (very useful b/c of the slot in it). Thanks for the advice. Christopher --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have to buy a wrench, i'd buy the short one and put a 3 foot pipe on it. The long one will need a pipe extension anyway. Since it is something rarely seen, putting a pipe wrench on it will cause scars that nobody will see anyway. One in the rust belt that has not been moved for 30 years may be really hard to break loose. In those cases, I use a big hammer and a big chisel on the outer rim, to turn it so it will unscrew. You have to be careful not to scar the surface on the tank, and only chisel the outer edge of the plug. When you get it out, you may need to file the sealing surface flat again. There is only a small area to grab with a pipe wrench, but it has been done. You need a nearly new 36 inch pipe wrench. It can be done with a 24 inch, but it will probably need a pipe extension on the handle. They are really tight. If you buy a 7/8 allen, try beating it into the hex with a Bfh before you grind anything. A SNUG fit in an Allen head is desirable. Loose is not good. At 02:56 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: Well, I didn't think there was enough there to grab on to...but I will give it a whirl (and a twirl). The closest I could find to a 22mm allen wrench is 7/8, which is 22.2, I believe. Would need a little filing. $13 for the short handle and $20 for the long handle. Wonder what the dealerships use...MB probably sells a special tool. Christopher --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not familiar with the 115, but i think it is the same as 110. You can use a large bolt head or, as Darrell says, use a pipe wrench on the outer edge. My weapon of choice is large channel locks if I can't find a big bolt head. Once the plug is loose, the screen comes out with it, just the same as a 123. At 12:43 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: there is no way to use a pipe wrench...it is a huge allen head screw. I measured it and it looked like 21 or 22mm. Stopped by Star Parts this morning and he told me 22mm. Before I bought the tool, I thought I'd verify with list. Yes, I am trying drain all the rust out (that I suspect is in there) and perhaps other crud. When purchased, the fuel cap was off and now the prefilter is crudding up fast (with rust)...rather than changing filters once a week, I thought I should strike at the root and drain/flush. There is nothing down there that takes a 46mm wrench (wish there was, that I can handle). I know you can drain from the fuel hose, but I think the crud is severe enough to warrant draining through the strainer, which I think can be removed once the GIANT allen screw is out. Indy agreed that would be best course of action. Thoughts? I might try a 22mm bolt head...but I would prefer to have a real tool... Thanks, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 207K miles, Wulf http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 207K miles, Wulf http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Start your day with Yahoo! - make it
Re: [MBZ] ACC2 Woes
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fuse lasts maybe 2-3 trips before blowing up. I've blown the fuse in both Auto-Hi and Bi-Level, without use of the other function until the fuse blew and was replaced. As part of my troubleshooting, I swapped out the amplifier with a known good spare, and the symptoms remain. I'm a pessimist, so I'm suspecting that the compressor is drawing too much current. I don't own a car with ACC2 right now, and my limited experience with troubleshooting it is now getting a bit ancient (disclaimer). That being said, my instinct would be that the servo is blowing the fuse because it's on its way out. Mac Aylmer, Quebec '60 Mercedes 220s / '82 240d '75 Volvo 164e / '88 Volvo 245
Re: [MBZ] Beware!
Ebay now has a message page available to members when they sign in, so if Ebay is legitimately communicating something to you, you can sign on to Ebay and find it on your Ebay message page. Jeff Zedic wrote: One of the things that will tell if it's a fake email or not is when you open it up. Does it say your registered name or does it say Dear Valued Ebayer I read the Paypal spoof FAQ and that was a heads-up that they say is a dead giveaway. The other thing is to always type in their URL manually when you need to go there. Hopefully you're still safe! Perhaps you should contact eBay and let them know just in case anytrhing happens down the road. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
Re: [MBZ] Beware!
Good point Lee, I didn't realize the value of that new Message Center. On 7/18/05, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ebay now has a message page available to members when they sign in, so if Ebay is legitimately communicating something to you, you can sign on to Ebay and find it on your Ebay message page. Jeff Zedic wrote: One of the things that will tell if it's a fake email or not is when you open it up. Does it say your registered name or does it say Dear Valued Ebayer I read the Paypal spoof FAQ and that was a heads-up that they say is a dead giveaway. The other thing is to always type in their URL manually when you need to go there. Hopefully you're still safe! Perhaps you should contact eBay and let them know just in case anytrhing happens down the road. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 1985 380SL
[MBZ] Saw an M-B Cruiser on the way home....
lust, lust, lust. Nice looking RV. Did a quick google and found a couple of almost new ones for about $59,000 (that's US, not CDN) Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
Re: [MBZ] 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
It is hopeless, Chris. Bring me your car. I'll give you bus fare home. Don On 7/18/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I really would like a 22mm socket to put on my breaker bar...somethings just can't be simple. Even Snap On only sells metric L-allen wrenches up to 19mm. Urgh. Will report on how it goes. BFH, never heard that one before, but I got it right away. Might be easier to slowly jack it into to opening with my Toyota jack (very useful b/c of the slot in it). Thanks for the advice. Christopher -- Some folks march to the beat of a different drummer. I don't even need the drum. - LT Don 1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 1972 Honda CB-500K
Re: [MBZ] ACC2 Woes
Compressor drawing current? Don't think so, unless you're referring to the clutch. Near as I can tell the clutch is driven thru fuse 5. I must be looking in the wrong place; don't see that fuse 3 is meant to have anything at all to do with ACC. Sorry if I'm barkin' up the wrong tree; this comes from a quick peek at the etm. joe On 7/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings listers! I'm having some electrical issues with the ACC2 system in our '80 300TD wagon. Hopefully someone has been down a similar road before and can spare some insight. The symptoms are pretty simple: fuse 3 self-destructs when the pushbutton module is in the bi-lev or auto functions, and the compressor stops functioning. The compressor functions as normal in defrost mode, and in general, the ACC servo functions as normal - vents open as necessary, temperare regulated just nicely. A fuse lasts maybe 2-3 trips before blowing up. I've blown the fuse in both Auto-Hi and Bi-Level, without use of the other function until the fuse blew and was replaced. As part of my troubleshooting, I swapped out the amplifier with a known good spare, and the symptoms remain. I'm a pessimist, so I'm suspecting that the compressor is drawing too much current. So, are there any obvious places I should look, and where should I begin my tests to narrow down and eventually isolate the problem component?
Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 06:24:40PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: TV reporters are expected to be smart enough to drive a five speed? Amazing, isn't it? Until they started buying the explorers, almost all the vehicles were clutches. Even more amazing is that they didn't go through clutches like they were going out of style. K
Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL
I hope their hair and makeup was not messed up in the atrocity or was it a crisis or a disaster? Back to you, Bob... --R Mitch Haley wrote: Kevin wrote: Friend of mine works for a TV station. I stopped by the station one day, and noticed that one of the XJ's was gone, and asked him about it. Apparently a reporter spidered the head (think cracks that look like a spider web) going up a steep hill. XJ wasn't worth fixing, it was a 90 with over 240k on it, four banger five speed, but before that, needed *NOTHING* but brakes, tires, oil, and gas since new - station was just waiting until it costed them money to off it. TV reporters are expected to be smart enough to drive a five speed? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Re: want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
Like Loren said, if you can find a bolt with 22mm head and two nuts you may be able to make a special tool for this. Jam the two nuts on the one end, put the bolt head (the other end) in the strainer recess. Then you could put an open wrench on the inner nut to break the strainer loose. May worth a try. Tan It is always better to use the most appropriate tool for the job, but in a pinch, the bolt-and-two-nuts method will always work. More importantly, the gratification of imporovising, is priceless! Omar.
Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL
Its interesting when people die ... give me dirty laundry. On 7/18/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope their hair and makeup was not messed up in the atrocity or was it a crisis or a disaster? Back to you, Bob... --R Mitch Haley wrote: Kevin wrote: Friend of mine works for a TV station. I stopped by the station one day, and noticed that one of the XJ's was gone, and asked him about it. Apparently a reporter spidered the head (think cracks that look like a spider web) going up a steep hill. XJ wasn't worth fixing, it was a 90 with over 240k on it, four banger five speed, but before that, needed *NOTHING* but brakes, tires, oil, and gas since new - station was just waiting until it costed them money to off it. TV reporters are expected to be smart enough to drive a five speed? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Some folks march to the beat of a different drummer. I don't even need the drum. - LT Don 1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 1972 Honda CB-500K
[MBZ] BFH was: 240D - want to drain fuel tank - what size allen wrench?
BFH is relative. For most automotive work it is a 2-4 lb hammer on a short handle. My brother keeps a 10 lb on about a 15 inch handle. Now that is truly a BFH. For construction a BFH is 10 lb or more. Most people use an 8 pounder, but a 10 pounder speaks with more authority, and imho, is the starting place for a construction BFH. it is used to adjust studs into place, or a whole wall into place, or to seat TG subfloor. In the past few weeks I have been driving 2x4 stakes into dry clay for concrete forms with a 16 lb post mall. It is a cast iron antique, and the guys call it the circus hammer. It will drive a 2x4stake 1/4 inch per blow in hard clay where the 10 pounder mostly just bounces. Kinda like a .45 versus a .38 special. It speaks with authority. In short, a BFH ain't your wife's 12 oz claw hammer from one of those homeowner 46 piece tool kits. My automotive bfh is a 3 pounder on an 8 inch handle. My construction BFH is a 10 pounder. when the automotive one won't work, i get out the 10 pounder, or get a longer pipe to put on the handle of the wrench, or both. At 04:59 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: Wow. I really would like a 22mm socket to put on my breaker bar...somethings just can't be simple. Even Snap On only sells metric L-allen wrenches up to 19mm. Urgh. Will report on how it goes. BFH, never heard that one before, but I got it right away. Might be easier to slowly jack it into to opening with my Toyota jack (very useful b/c of the slot in it). Thanks for the advice. Christopher --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have to buy a wrench, i'd buy the short one and put a 3 foot pipe on it. The long one will need a pipe extension anyway. Since it is something rarely seen, putting a pipe wrench on it will cause scars that nobody will see anyway. One in the rust belt that has not been moved for 30 years may be really hard to break loose. In those cases, I use a big hammer and a big chisel on the outer rim, to turn it so it will unscrew. You have to be careful not to scar the surface on the tank, and only chisel the outer edge of the plug. When you get it out, you may need to file the sealing surface flat again. There is only a small area to grab with a pipe wrench, but it has been done. You need a nearly new 36 inch pipe wrench. It can be done with a 24 inch, but it will probably need a pipe extension on the handle. They are really tight. If you buy a 7/8 allen, try beating it into the hex with a Bfh before you grind anything. A SNUG fit in an Allen head is desirable. Loose is not good. At 02:56 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: Well, I didn't think there was enough there to grab on to...but I will give it a whirl (and a twirl). The closest I could find to a 22mm allen wrench is 7/8, which is 22.2, I believe. Would need a little filing. $13 for the short handle and $20 for the long handle. Wonder what the dealerships use...MB probably sells a special tool. Christopher --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not familiar with the 115, but i think it is the same as 110. You can use a large bolt head or, as Darrell says, use a pipe wrench on the outer edge. My weapon of choice is large channel locks if I can't find a big bolt head. Once the plug is loose, the screen comes out with it, just the same as a 123. At 12:43 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: there is no way to use a pipe wrench...it is a huge allen head screw. I measured it and it looked like 21 or 22mm. Stopped by Star Parts this morning and he told me 22mm. Before I bought the tool, I thought I'd verify with list. Yes, I am trying drain all the rust out (that I suspect is in there) and perhaps other crud. When purchased, the fuel cap was off and now the prefilter is crudding up fast (with rust)...rather than changing filters once a week, I thought I should strike at the root and drain/flush. There is nothing down there that takes a 46mm wrench (wish there was, that I can handle). I know you can drain from the fuel hose, but I think the crud is severe enough to warrant draining through the strainer, which I think can be removed once the GIANT allen screw is out. Indy agreed that would be best course of action. Thoughts? I might try a 22mm bolt head...but I would prefer to have a real tool... Thanks, ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 207K miles, Wulf http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel
Re: [MBZ] ACC2 Woes
Joe Knight wrote: Compressor drawing current? Don't think so, unless you're referring to the clutch. Near as I can tell the clutch is driven thru fuse 5. I must be looking in the wrong place; don't see that fuse 3 is meant to have anything at all to do with ACC. Sorry if I'm barkin' up the wrong tree; this comes from a quick peek at the etm. Erg, I meant fuse number 5. 3rd on the top row, excluding the power window fuse. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 167+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
RE: [MBZ] Beware!
Be sure to forward any emails like that to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They say they'll follow up on themSame goes for PayPal. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Beware! Wanted to warn all you folks since I put myself seriously at risk yesterday and didn't realize it until this morning. I've been selling some stuff on eBay lately and yesterday got an email supposedly from a seller asking about where his stuff was. It looked just like an eBay email with the click here to respond so I clicked there, put in my password and was taken to an auction that wasn't mine. I did a search for the supposed buyer and found out he's not an ebay member any more. I was real tired and didn't think anything more of it. This morning I checked and sure enough the link in the email is for a site other than eBay, dang. So quick like an idiot bunny I changed my eBay password and then just for the good of it my PayPal password too. I don't *think* anything was damaged but only time will tell... Beware! If it looks suspicious it probably is! -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
