Re: [MBZ] Here we go again

2006-01-14 Thread John Berryman


On Friday, Jan 13, 2006, at 10:32 US/Eastern, Russ Williams wrote:


Anytime Johnny,

Well I live about 15 miles South of B.R. in Gonzales.
My Mom still lives in B.R.
If you get down this way give me a shout.

Russ W.



I hope to be staying home for quite a while but if I find myself 
anywhere near BR in the future, I will give you a shout.


Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am




Re: [MBZ] Nice SDL in OKLA

2006-01-14 Thread Lee Einer



Here, continuing Ozark tradition demands that you have at least one non 
functioning automobile on blocks and at least one non functioning major 
appliance on the front porch.




Cars up on blocks in the front yard serve the essential function of 
concealing the  poop from the ten or so hunting dogs lounging on the 
front porch...


And better than the non-functioning appliance, or perhaps its perfect 
accompaniment, is an old bench seat from a pickup truck sitting on the 
front porch, way classier than an old sofa


   

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Re: [MBZ] Nice SDL in OKLA

2006-01-14 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Now I *knew* there was something missing from my exterior decorating ! I 
need to go get a pickup seat on the porch. Hard part is deciding which 
of the old trucks oxidizing away out back to fetch it from :-D

-Robert

Lee Einer wrote:
Here, continuing Ozark tradition demands that you have at least one non 
functioning automobile on blocks and at least one non functioning major 
appliance on the front porch.





Cars up on blocks in the front yard serve the essential function of 
concealing the  poop from the ten or so hunting dogs lounging on the 
front porch...


And better than the non-functioning appliance, or perhaps its perfect 
accompaniment, is an old bench seat from a pickup truck sitting on the 
front porch, way classier than an old sofa


  
   

  
- 



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Re: [MBZ] Coked up intake

2006-01-14 Thread redghost

Well, hmmm

I just report what the feller tells me.  He worked for the local dealer  
for a few years, so maybe he never got to work on too many diesels.   
Was not aware the 350 was a rod bender.


will wash the dirty laundry in the morning

On Thursday, January 12, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


Sorry Oscar, 606s are still indirect injection engines:
http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W124/w124CD1/Program/Engine/ 
605_606/01-5402HA.pdf


Your friend,
Felix

p.s. please do your laundry some time this month.

On 1/12/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Got the om606 to the shop which was able to get the #5 GP out. Not
mushroomed.  REALLY coked up.  Seems the idiot dealer (Rasmusson?) who
replaced it did not get it fully seated and it sat up taller in the
head than the rest.  This allowed carbon up into the threads and got  
it
stuck.  Really had to crank on it to get it out, but it came out.   
Plug

is very dead.

ANYWAY, the 606 is direct injection, so no pre chamber.  The folks at
Frybrid (Chris Goodwin) are going to try to clean out all the carbon  
in

the glow plug area when they replace them.  The intake is just thick
with carbon, and #5 is about a 1/2 inch thick all around.

Why is this?  EGR is dumping a bunch of carbon, but did all this come
about recently?  With #5 dead, it has been hard to start and smoking  
at

start about as bad as Gump.  This is less than a month of hard start,
so I am amazed if this results in one month.

Fellow at the shop was not sure that diesel purge would do a thing for
it.  May be using a nice wire brush and brake cleaner or oven cleaner
to wash that stuff out.  Bet it runs like a burnt cat


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Re: [MBZ] Coked up intake

2006-01-14 Thread redghost

Ok, the indie was clueless as to pre-chambers

Since the car was sold in LA, there must have been an excess of city 
driving, and the manifold never got cleaned out.  The next ten years 
must have just added to the snot build up.


So, I will have a fine time for another 150k miles.  Unless the italian 
driving sends flames through the intake, I do not think that would 
solve the build up issue


On Thursday, January 12, 2006, at 01:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


ANYWAY, the 606 is direct injection, so no pre chamber.


I don't think so!


Why is this?  EGR is dumping a bunch of carbon, but did all this come
about recently?  With #5 dead, it has been hard to start and smoking 
at

start about as bad as Gump.  This is less than a month of hard start,
so I am amazed if this results in one month.


I'm told it doesn't take long, because it's kind of a self-perpetuating
process unless the majority of your driving is Italianate in nature.
Probably being indirect in nature (a 6XX part number) it's a lot more
sensitive to glop in the prechamber.  Start with glop, and it stays
that way for awhile.  And once you're over the threshold, it never
goes away.

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Re: [MBZ] Coked up intake

2006-01-14 Thread redghost
Must be why the mechanic got confused about there being any.  The first 
100k miles on the engine must have been city driving with dino oil.  I 
changed over to M1 around 45k ago.


On Thursday, January 12, 2006, at 04:20 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:


If you are not using synthetic oil, clean the intake out and switch --
synthetic will not coke in the intake, dino does, usually pretty
dramatically.

The 606 is definitely a pre-chamber engine, but they are in the center,
between the cams, not on the side.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] O.T.Fake ebay email - Where to send them -

2006-01-14 Thread redghost

Yep, got one that I sent to them

next I get the real ebay reply

which was followed by the you have been suspended spoof, which I 
forwarded to ebay


On Friday, January 13, 2006, at 06:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Fraudulent emails concerning eBay or Paypal  should be forwarded to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  - they'll deal with it.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
- Original Message -
From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T.Fake ebay email



Forward the e-mail to eBay.

On 1/11/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Has anyone received an email that looks like it's from ebay trying 
to get
your personal info? I got one this morning that started out by 
saying,

If
this email is inappropriate or breaches eBay policy, please help 
protect

other eBay community members by reporting it to us immediately.
Then it went on to say,
Dear eBay member,

This is a message from eBay :

Be aware you have received the third non paying bidder alert. Your
account
is now targeted for termination in order to avoid this you must 
click on

the
Respond Now button and update your information . After you've done 
this

we
will revise your account's activities and send you an email with our
final
decision within 48 hours.

Thank you, the eBay antifraud team.

I have purchased very few things on ebay and I have paid for them all
promptly. To whom should I report this crap to?



Bob Rentfro






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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear headrest

2006-01-14 Thread OK Don
Snook mailed the owners manual, which I received today, and the first
thing I looked up was the rear headrests. The manual states that they
will fold back when you push the button (when the engine is running)
- the parens are theirs. So we tried it tonight - after parking the
car, killed the engine, tried the button, and it worked - with the
engine off. Go figure.

On 1/12/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exactly.  Mine too, and regardless of the velocity vector of the car.
 OK Don's are broken somehow, I think.

 Alex Chamberlain
 '87 300D Turbo

 On 1/12/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mine falls back with resounding THUMP.
 
  Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] OTfonts and characters

2006-01-14 Thread OK Don
It was offered with one of the Windows Update options a while back
-- added it to fonts.

On 1/13/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So where is the character for the Euro currency??
 Werner


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Re: [MBZ] spam

2006-01-14 Thread OK Don
It was probably spoofed to look like a hotmail address -- you can't
tell without reading the headers anymore.

On 1/13/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 from last evening to this morning, I got 12 spam messages.  8 of them came 
 from HOTMAIL!   G



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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear headrest

2006-01-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Interesting.  You had just enough stored vacuum to trip the latch
actuators.  (They run off engine vacuum, not a separate pump like the
locks.)

On 1/13/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Snook mailed the owners manual, which I received today, and the first
 thing I looked up was the rear headrests. The manual states that they
 will fold back when you push the button (when the engine is running)
 - the parens are theirs. So we tried it tonight - after parking the
 car, killed the engine, tried the button, and it worked - with the
 engine off. Go figure.

 On 1/12/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Exactly.  Mine too, and regardless of the velocity vector of the car.
  OK Don's are broken somehow, I think.
 
  Alex Chamberlain
  '87 300D Turbo
 
  On 1/12/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Mine falls back with resounding THUMP.
  
   Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Tschuss

2006-01-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Adopted, yes.  Adopted correctly, no.  Microsoft's user-interface
bozos were too stupid to realize that the command or open apple
key on the Mac and Apple II was not the same as the control key but
had a different function entirely.  Since control already had a
recognized function---sending commands to control a remote system in
terminal emulation, hence the name---they should have used a different
key.  It's not like there was a shortage of modifier keys on the
original IBM PC keyboard---Alt would have been perfect.

If you don't get what I'm ranting about, here's a question to ponder:
In a Windows terminal emulation program, what does the key combination
control-C do?  Does it cut selected text, or does it send a break
to the remote system?  On the Mac there's only one possible answer.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

On 1/13/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, they did adopt control S, X, C, V, P, W and maybe a few others from
 applewriter.  You only have to substitute control for the open apple key,
 but that is pretty intuitive.  What is amazing to me is how few Winders
 users know how to use these basic Apple[1] shortcuts.  They save so much time!

 These shortcuts were used in applewriter, the first WP program I knew of
 for apple, then were used in appleworks, then were used in Word for Mac,
 and eventually made it into all the MSoffice applications to some extent.

 Loren
 MCSE, MCT, Mac lover  (living in both camps)
 Still have apple II with Rev. a motherboard.  Thing refuses to die!
 Started out with pencil cards because the keypunch machines were considered
 much too valuable to let mere mortals use.

 (Don't really care to start a flame war)


 At 09:43 AM 1/13/2006, you wrote:
   ü=Alt+0252 on the number pad.  Hold Alt and type 0252 on the number
   pad.
 
 _So_ much more intuitive than Apple's nasty option-u prefix to any
 umlautable vowel.  Ditto the other common accent marks, from memory
 the optioned `, n, e, and i which yield è, ñ, é, and î when you tack
 them on likely candidates.  (The option is attached to their most
 common associated letter for ease of memorization.)
 
 I never understood why the PC never came up with a decent input
 method rather than (effectively) memorization of the font's glyph
 map.  Both these input methods date from the 80's, but I know which
 one I'd rather use.
 
 Let the wars begin!
 
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[MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread V Layton
This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago but I 
thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway.  I've been seeking this 
sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not exactly 
helped cure my desires for more W123 history!  Scroll down to free and 
wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing.  It's 
totally worth a look, and it's in German.


http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html

Vince
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Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread Hendrik Riessen

It's also 27.9mb big.
I am a bit disappointed in the fuel consumption figures, especially given 
that my 230E is round about 12.5l/100k's and has a lot more power. Then 
given the fact that diesel is usally about 10cents dearer than petrol the 
300D and 230E cost about the same to run.


Hendrik

- Original Message - 
From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV


This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago but 
I

thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway.  I've been seeking this
sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not 
exactly

helped cure my desires for more W123 history!  Scroll down to free and
wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing. 
It's

totally worth a look, and it's in German.

http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html

Vince
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[MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

2006-01-14 Thread Brian Chase
Now that I have purchased a used engine for the 240D, I'm faced with the 
question: Do I have the indy test the compression before throwing it in? If 
I don't and it's bad, then I'm out a bunch of money to have it taken back 
out and another one put in (I got the promise from the seller, Tri Star in 
Phoenix, that if the compression numbers did not come out good, they would 
take the engine back and provide a replacement). My indy said it's going to 
cost some $160 to run the compression test - said it'd have to be hooked up 
to the tranny, etc. Seems unreasonable, but again, it's a gamble not to do 
it.


Now, I know what youre thinking, and I am too: Tri Star is not really going 
to accept an engine back simply because I tell them that the compression 
numbers did not come back good. I know the dude was just telling me whatever 
he needed to in order to get me to hand over my credit card no.


So I guess I just answered my own question. Just have the engine put in and 
pray for the best.


The guy told me that each engine they sell is compression tested and started 
up before shipping. I asked (before I agreed to buy) if he would send me the 
compression numbers - he said yes. But he is giving me the runaround now, 
saying he is so busy.


I know a lister suggested that an easy way to check compression was to bar 
the engine over and see how it acts. Perhaps I'll get my mechanic to do this 
and not charge me $160.


All I can say for sure is that this engine (supposedly has only 105k - their 
lowest mileage specimen) had better work or we are out so much money and 
time and energy on this car, and we'll basically have to give it up, take a 
huge monetary loss and say bye-bye to Mercedes ownership. Then how will I 
pass the time sitting at the computer?


Send me your best vibes, listers.

Brian
83 240D

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Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread Brian Chase

Vince,

Very cool video. Haven't watched the whole thing yet, but definitely will. I 
wonder if there is one of these for the 240D. I know they would look pretty 
silly touting any type of speed, but still...


How did you find this particular video?

Brian
83 240D



From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:03:37 +1030

It's also 27.9mb big.
I am a bit disappointed in the fuel consumption figures, especially given
that my 230E is round about 12.5l/100k's and has a lot more power. Then
given the fact that diesel is usally about 10cents dearer than petrol the
300D and 230E cost about the same to run.

Hendrik

- Original Message -
From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV


 This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago 
but

 I
 thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway.  I've been seeking this
 sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not
 exactly
 helped cure my desires for more W123 history!  Scroll down to free and
 wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing.
 It's
 totally worth a look, and it's in German.

 http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html

 Vince
 Club 123D President
 Aspiring W123 historian

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[MBZ] I need your opinions on this HF oil extractor!

2006-01-14 Thread kayoooh @ gmail
Hello List,
Has any of you used or heard anything about this oil extractor from Harbor
Freight?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46149

Thank you,

Omar.




Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread V Layton
Someone posted the link in another forum, I don't know how he found it, but 
I'm pleased he did, too much of stuff like this is lost or buried.


I bought my W123 (200D) out of need, chose it for it's charm, grew to love 
it's asthetics, appreciated it's servicability and durability, respected 
it's place and purpose, and now more concerned with being specially and 
intensely involved in it's appreciation, celebration and preservation than 
their belittlible performance.


Regards,

Vince





From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:28:22 -0700

Vince,

Very cool video. Haven't watched the whole thing yet, but definitely will. 
I

wonder if there is one of these for the 240D. I know they would look pretty
silly touting any type of speed, but still...

How did you find this particular video?

Brian
83 240D


From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:03:37 +1030

It's also 27.9mb big.
I am a bit disappointed in the fuel consumption figures, especially given
that my 230E is round about 12.5l/100k's and has a lot more power. Then
given the fact that diesel is usally about 10cents dearer than petrol the
300D and 230E cost about the same to run.

Hendrik

- Original Message -
From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV


  This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago
but
  I
  thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway.  I've been seeking 
this

  sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not
  exactly
  helped cure my desires for more W123 history!  Scroll down to free 
and

  wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing.
  It's
  totally worth a look, and it's in German.
 
  http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html
 
  Vince
  Club 123D President
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Re: [MBZ] Tschuss

2006-01-14 Thread Hans Neureiter
Or use 'Charactermap' under Programs  Accessories  System Tools, select,
copy and paste.

On 1/13/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ü=Alt+0252 on the number pad.  Hold Alt and type 0252 on the number pad.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Jan 13, 2006 8:11 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tschuss
 
 Yes I know, but I don't know how to include umlauts unless I cut n'
 paste.  How did you do it?
 
 On 1/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It is actually Tschüss with the Umlaut.
 
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Re: [MBZ] electric telescoping steering

2006-01-14 Thread Trampas
Not sure but I have one in my 1987 420SEL.

Trampas

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Subject: [MBZ] electric telescoping steering

when did this become an option?
http://tinyurl.com/7fad6
 
Luther
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

2006-01-14 Thread l02turner

Hi Brian,
   This may have been asked already - what is Tri-Star's reputation?  Is 
there anything like the rating on eBay where vendors are rated?  I know BBB 
will record problems - but my experience is their info is not helpful unless 
the vendor has screwed hundreds or thousands of customers.


   I remember seeing Tri-Star advertise in The Star and other Mercedes 
related areas.   I can't really remember hearing anything negative about 
them - but what other people experience won't help you if you end up with a 
bad engine.


   I'm just rambling here - it would sure simplify things if you could make 
the engine change yourself!  Where are you located - I'll help if you're 
close to Richmond Va.


   I'm not fast, but I *am* cheap.  ;-)  I rebuilt my 240D engine 10 years 
ago (Geez, the time flies) and it's still running strong after 30k miles.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:57 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression



Now that I have purchased a used engine for the 240D, I'm faced with the
question: Do I have the indy test the compression before throwing it in? 
If

I don't and it's bad, then I'm out a bunch of money to have it taken back
out and another one put in (I got the promise from the seller, Tri Star in
Phoenix, that if the compression numbers did not come out good, they would
take the engine back and provide a replacement). My indy said it's going 
to
cost some $160 to run the compression test - said it'd have to be hooked 
up

to the tranny, etc. Seems unreasonable, but again, it's a gamble not to do
it.

Now, I know what youre thinking, and I am too: Tri Star is not really 
going

to accept an engine back simply because I tell them that the compression
numbers did not come back good. I know the dude was just telling me 
whatever

he needed to in order to get me to hand over my credit card no.

So I guess I just answered my own question. Just have the engine put in 
and

pray for the best.

The guy told me that each engine they sell is compression tested and 
started
up before shipping. I asked (before I agreed to buy) if he would send me 
the

compression numbers - he said yes. But he is giving me the runaround now,
saying he is so busy.

I know a lister suggested that an easy way to check compression was to bar
the engine over and see how it acts. Perhaps I'll get my mechanic to do 
this

and not charge me $160.

All I can say for sure is that this engine (supposedly has only 105k - 
their

lowest mileage specimen) had better work or we are out so much money and
time and energy on this car, and we'll basically have to give it up, take 
a

huge monetary loss and say bye-bye to Mercedes ownership. Then how will I
pass the time sitting at the computer?

Send me your best vibes, listers.

Brian
83 240D

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[MBZ] plastic oil sucker

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Dwelle
About 6 months ago, someone posted info on a big plastic oil sucker, 
similar to the top-sider, but all plastic. It was fairly expensive, 
IIRC. I think someone had been involved in a group purchase.


I can't locate the posting. Can someone list the brand name, etc.?

I want this for my boat diesel--I don't like carrying the 
metal-topsider around and think the plastic will work better.


Thanks,
Ron Dwelle




[MBZ] OT, LLC for Donald

2006-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, so what is the advantage of filing for LLC?  Protects yourself in 
case you get sued?

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Re: [MBZ] new addition to diesel flock

2006-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

you are out of control.

Christopher McCann wrote:


1992 Canadian VW Golf (diesel). After working fine  for months, my friend drive 
it through a creek and smashed the water  separator under the car. Got the air 
out of the lines - sort of - long  story - then drove four hours to Kansas city 
and then it wouldn't  start. He was sick of it and sold it to me for $100. It 
should make a  nice summer project, esp since I already know what the problem 
is. And  he just didn't care to work on FURRIN cars anymore. I told him for  
months - new fuel filter, new air filter - he never did any of it! TOO  FURRIN! 
EVERYTHINGS METRIC!
  
  see addition to signature.
  
  :-)
  
  Chris
  



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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf 
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)

-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger




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Re: [MBZ] new addition to diesel flock

2006-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I bought 2 300D's this week, an 82 and 83 for $500.

Luther Gulseth wrote:

I think he's trying to compete with Kaleb for lowest price and best value.

- Original Message 
From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:55:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition to diesel flock


copy-cat

On 1/13/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


1992 Canadian VW Golf (diesel). After working fine  for months, my friend
drive it through a creek and smashed the water  separator under the car. Got
the air out of the lines - sort of - long  story - then drove four hours to
Kansas city and then it wouldn't  start. He was sick of it and sold it to me
for $100. It should make a  nice summer project, esp since I already know
what the problem is. And  he just didn't care to work on FURRIN cars
anymore. I told him for  months - new fuel filter, new air filter - he never
did any of it! TOO  FURRIN! EVERYTHINGS METRIC!

 see addition to signature.

 :-)

 Chris



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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger

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[MBZ] Moose (mousse) Friday

2006-01-14 Thread OK Don
This book re-surfaced, so I had to take this picture in honor of moose Frid=
ay --

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[MBZ] opinion on HF oil extractor

2006-01-14 Thread wilton strickland
$130.99 more than mine.

Wilton



Re: [MBZ] OT, LLC for Donald

2006-01-14 Thread Trampas
Yeap, also a S-corp can do the same thing but if you have kids you can place
some of the S-corp stocks in your children's name giving you some tax
advantages. 

It is always best to talk to your accountant and lawyer before forming a
corp. 

Trampas

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:15 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] OT, LLC for Donald

OK, so what is the advantage of filing for LLC?  Protects yourself in 
case you get sued?
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Re: [MBZ] Non Diesel but looks like a good deal

2006-01-14 Thread Tom Scordato

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124295953.html





Re: [MBZ] I need your opinions on this HF oil extractor!

2006-01-14 Thread dave walton
On 1/14/06, kayoooh @ gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello List,
 Has any of you used or heard anything about this oil extractor from Harbor
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 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46149

 Thank you,

 Omar.


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Re: [MBZ] I need your opinions on this HF oil extractor!

2006-01-14 Thread dave walton
I'm curious what they use the air pressure for. Venturi vacuum?

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300


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 On 1/14/06, kayoooh @ gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Has any of you used or heard anything about this oil extractor from Harbor
  Freight?
 
  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46149
 
  Thank you,
 
  Omar.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Heartbroken...MBZ style

2006-01-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:01:18 -0800 (PST) Luther Gulseth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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So what is a Microsoft ASF?


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Tschuss

2006-01-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:52:23 -0800 Alex Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adopted, yes.  Adopted correctly, no.  Microsoft's user-interface
 bozos were too stupid to realize that the command or open apple
 key on the Mac and Apple II was not the same as the control key but
 had a different function entirely.  Since control already had a
 recognized function---sending commands to control a remote system in
 terminal emulation, hence the name---they should have used a different
 key.  It's not like there was a shortage of modifier keys on the
 original IBM PC keyboard---Alt would have been perfect.
 
 If you don't get what I'm ranting about, here's a question to ponder:
 In a Windows terminal emulation program, what does the key combination
 control-C do?  Does it cut selected text, or does it send a break
 to the remote system?  On the Mac there's only one possible answer.

I get it and have been bugged for awhile, too. Don't forget about
control-S and control-Q to stop and start terminal output.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Fw: Heartbroken...MBZ style

2006-01-14 Thread Hans Neureiter
Media player file. Just tell it to run it anyway.

On 1/14/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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[MBZ] man, I wanted this

2006-01-14 Thread Hans Neureiter
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Re: [MBZ] Tschuss

2006-01-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 1/14/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:52:23 -0800 Alex Chamberlain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Adopted, yes.  Adopted correctly, no.  Microsoft's user-interface
  bozos were too stupid to realize that the command or open apple
  key on the Mac and Apple II was not the same as the control key but
  had a different function entirely.  Since control already had a
  recognized function---sending commands to control a remote system in
  terminal emulation, hence the name---they should have used a different
  key.  It's not like there was a shortage of modifier keys on the
  original IBM PC keyboard---Alt would have been perfect.
 
  If you don't get what I'm ranting about, here's a question to ponder:
  In a Windows terminal emulation program, what does the key combination
  control-C do?  Does it cut selected text, or does it send a break
  to the remote system?  On the Mac there's only one possible answer.

 I get it and have been bugged for awhile, too. Don't forget about
 control-S and control-Q to stop and start terminal output.


 Craig


Ah, a fellow curmudgeon!  Yeah, ctrl-S and ctrl-Q are even better
examples since you could hit ctrl-S expecting to save and then sit
there wondering why your remote session had frozen...

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] plastic oil sucker

2006-01-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Ron, I think you're talking about the Suck-Up.  I got mine from
www.marinepowerservice.com for $55.  I bought it after the
recommendation you're referring to was posted, and have been very
happy with it.  Although the oil compartment is plastic, it's a sturdy
plastic, and other critical parts are metal.  Seems very well made for
the price, especially compared to the Pela oil extractor I had before.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

On 1/14/06, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 About 6 months ago, someone posted info on a big plastic oil sucker,
 similar to the top-sider, but all plastic. It was fairly expensive,
 IIRC. I think someone had been involved in a group purchase.

 I can't locate the posting. Can someone list the brand name, etc.?

 I want this for my boat diesel--I don't like carrying the
 metal-topsider around and think the plastic will work better.

 Thanks,
 Ron Dwelle


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Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:26:10 + V Layton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html

I went to the page, but didn't see anywhere to download anything.

Has something changed?


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

2006-01-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:57:21 -0700 Brian Chase
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now that I have purchased a used engine for the 240D, I'm faced with the
 
 question: Do I have the indy test the compression before throwing it in?
 If  I don't and it's bad, then I'm out a bunch of money to have it taken
 back  out and another one put in (I got the promise from the seller, Tri
 Star in  Phoenix, that if the compression numbers did not come out good,
 they would  take the engine back and provide a replacement). My indy
 said it's going to  cost some $160 to run the compression test - said
 it'd have to be hooked up  to the tranny, etc. Seems unreasonable, but
 again, it's a gamble not to do  it.

You have to hook it up to the tranny in order to be able to mount the
starter motor. It's wise to have some type of cooling if you're going to
run the engine for any length of time, though if you run it only a short
time you can get away without the radiator, etc.

The $160 seems a little high, particularly since you're going to have to
hook the engine to the transmission to put it in the car, anyway.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] electric telescoping steering

2006-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

86, can be retrofitted into older cars though.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


when did this become an option?
http://tinyurl.com/7fad6
 
Luther
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Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote:
 
 On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:26:10 + V Layton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html
 
 I went to the page, but didn't see anywhere to download anything.

You need a javascript enabled browser. 
Go to that page, and there are buttons to select your download.
Hit the Free button. Wait about 40 seconds. When a graphic image
of three characters appears, retype them in the box to the right,
and click on the start download button.



Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

2006-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
As was said before YES you do need to check the compression BEFORE you 
install the engine.  You DONT have to hook up a transmission to test it, 
you just need to bolt the starter up.  Shouldnt take more than 20 or 30 
minutes with the engine sitting on the ground there.  Just hook the 
starter up, jump battery power to the starter to crank it over.  160 is 
rape for that job.


Brian Chase wrote:

Now that I have purchased a used engine for the 240D, I'm faced with the 
question: Do I have the indy test the compression before throwing it in? 
If I don't and it's bad, then I'm out a bunch of money to have it taken 
back out and another one put in (I got the promise from the seller, Tri 
Star in Phoenix, that if the compression numbers did not come out good, 
they would take the engine back and provide a replacement). My indy said 
it's going to cost some $160 to run the compression test - said it'd 
have to be hooked up to the tranny, etc. Seems unreasonable, but again, 
it's a gamble not to do it.


Now, I know what youre thinking, and I am too: Tri Star is not really 
going to accept an engine back simply because I tell them that the 
compression numbers did not come back good. I know the dude was just 
telling me whatever he needed to in order to get me to hand over my 
credit card no.


So I guess I just answered my own question. Just have the engine put in 
and pray for the best.


The guy told me that each engine they sell is compression tested and 
started up before shipping. I asked (before I agreed to buy) if he would 
send me the compression numbers - he said yes. But he is giving me the 
runaround now, saying he is so busy.


I know a lister suggested that an easy way to check compression was to 
bar the engine over and see how it acts. Perhaps I'll get my mechanic to 
do this and not charge me $160.


All I can say for sure is that this engine (supposedly has only 105k - 
their lowest mileage specimen) had better work or we are out so much 
money and time and energy on this car, and we'll basically have to give 
it up, take a huge monetary loss and say bye-bye to Mercedes ownership. 
Then how will I pass the time sitting at the computer?


Send me your best vibes, listers.

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] plastic oil sucker

2006-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I bought one of those suckups from the hitler list deal a while back. 
Never used it till the other day.  I just prefer the old fashed way of 
draining it.  I suppose it probably would have worked better if I had my 
oil a little warm but it was stone cold.


Ron Dwelle wrote:

About 6 months ago, someone posted info on a big plastic oil sucker, 
similar to the top-sider, but all plastic. It was fairly expensive, 
IIRC. I think someone had been involved in a group purchase.


I can't locate the posting. Can someone list the brand name, etc.?

I want this for my boat diesel--I don't like carrying the 
metal-topsider around and think the plastic will work better.


Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

neat.  Too bad I cant understand german.

V Layton wrote:

This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago 
but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway.  I've been 
seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it 
has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history!  Scroll 
down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton 
code type thing.  It's totally worth a look, and it's in German.


http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

2006-01-14 Thread Brian Chase
Tri Star comes recommended by this list. They are recommended by a mechanic 
that I was referred to by this list. Well, not actually recommended by him, 
but he said it's better that I'm going with them than with some of the 
others around there.


They seem to be a well-known outfit. The thing that's filling me with 
distrust is the sound of the guy I have spoken to - not what I expected from 
a sharp outfit - more like some of the doorknobs I've dealt with from your 
average run-down junk yard - but on the other hand, I would feel suspicious 
of someone that sounded too polished. It didn't help that I got conflicting 
information about every time I called. Add to this the generally shady 
nature of the salvage business, and you see why I'm trying to think of 
worst-cases.


Forgive me if I've asked the same question twice - just being human. It is 
interesting to hear that it's not necessary to have the tranny attached in 
order to mount and run the starter. However, it's a thin line when one 
starts to tell one's mechanic that they know better than they do (you don't 
want to piss off your chef or waiter too much before you get your meal).


Yeah, Larry, if I was close to your area, I might take you up on the help. 
In fact, I'm not even close to my car right now (I'm in MN, it's in AZ) so 
I'm relying on this indy.


I spoke with a different guy at Tri Star on the phone yesterday, and I asked 
him some things. He said that their process when they get a car from an 
auction or elsewhere is to try to start the engine if it has oil, etc. If it 
doesn't start, they don't try again 'til someone puts down money on it. This 
is apparently the case with my engine, as the dude I dealt with said that 
once I faxed my CC number, he'd have the mechanic pull the engine out of the 
car and it would be compression checked and started up (and according to 
this second guy, also leak-down checked). If the engine was no good, I'd get 
the next one down the line (which had some 250k miles on it, so the price 
would be adjusted down) So for one reason or another my engine wouldn't 
start while still in its car. I've already mentioned how very easy it would 
be for them to deliver me the higher mileage engine rather than the nice, 
fresh one. It would be going against human nature not to do so.


So for those of us not as mechanically inclined as most of the list, it's a 
big time matter of trust. For the general population, mechanics, just like 
doctors, plumbers, lawyers, etc. etc. have us just where they want us. 
Do-it-yourself-ers are fortunate indeed.


Brian
83 240D


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:04:19 -0500

Hi Brian,
This may have been asked already - what is Tri-Star's reputation?  Is
there anything like the rating on eBay where vendors are rated?  I know BBB
will record problems - but my experience is their info is not helpful 
unless

the vendor has screwed hundreds or thousands of customers.

I remember seeing Tri-Star advertise in The Star and other Mercedes
related areas.   I can't really remember hearing anything negative about
them - but what other people experience won't help you if you end up with a
bad engine.

I'm just rambling here - it would sure simplify things if you could 
make

the engine change yourself!  Where are you located - I'll help if you're
close to Richmond Va.

I'm not fast, but I *am* cheap.  ;-)  I rebuilt my 240D engine 10 
years

ago (Geez, the time flies) and it's still running strong after 30k miles.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:57 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression


 Now that I have purchased a used engine for the 240D, I'm faced with the
 question: Do I have the indy test the compression before throwing it in?
 If
 I don't and it's bad, then I'm out a bunch of money to have it taken 
back
 out and another one put in (I got the promise from the seller, Tri Star 
in
 Phoenix, that if the compression numbers did not come out good, they 
would

 take the engine back and provide a replacement). My indy said it's going
 to
 cost some $160 to run the compression test - said it'd have to be hooked
 up
 to the tranny, etc. Seems unreasonable, but again, it's a gamble not to 
do

 it.

 Now, I know what youre thinking, and I am too: Tri Star is not really
 going
 to accept an engine back simply because I tell them that the compression
 numbers did not come back good. I know the dude was just telling me
 whatever
 he needed to in order to get me to 

[MBZ] Must.... resist.... urge....

2006-01-14 Thread redghost

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124882537.html

maybe Jim needs this


or Casey


anybody?
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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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[MBZ] old mystery car

2006-01-14 Thread redghost

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124629311.html

stick shift V8  euro

2500

wonder what it is

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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread Brian Chase
I wish I could know what they are displaying in terms of those statistics - 
some seem to be acceleration, then later fuel mileage? I know some of you 
auto-geeks will fill us in. Whatever all the numbers mean, they are pointing 
out a good, better, better, best progression from the 200 to the 220 to the 
240 to the 300. Man, cool to finally see that the 240 is better than 
something.


Actually, most revelatory in the video, to me, is seeing that that brand new 
car had play in the steering column - both when he gets in the car in that 
cold garage, and when driving.


Brian


From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:29:14 -0600

neat.  Too bad I cant understand german.

V Layton wrote:

 This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago
 but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway.  I've been
 seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it
 has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history!  Scroll
 down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton
 code type thing.  It's totally worth a look, and it's in German.

 http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html

 Vince
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[MBZ] weekend cars

2006-01-14 Thread redghost

List of cars you need to delete, or read them and 

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124501357.html  --  wtf  74 300D?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124457416.html  --  68 benz $500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124243374.html  --  77 240D $750

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/123993788.html  --  84 TD $7k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/123764283.html  --  81 240GD

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/125148755.html  --  77 240d

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/125052823.html  --  67 250se  $1k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/125014443.html  --  83 Sd $3500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124938732.html  --  68 280SE  $5k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124731615.html  --  190D 2.5

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124724366.html  --  79 240D stick $4k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124638512.html  --  84 SD $2500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124541832.html  --  74 D309  $6k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124544569.html  -- 89 TE  $4500


No affiliation, will look at them if you would like.

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1995 E300D - Cleo
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Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV

2006-01-14 Thread V Layton
The steering thing I didn't notice, I've only watched it 6 times or so so 
far- will have to look again- (damn)


I was comforted that it didn't start too cleanly in the -20 degree C 
garage


W123's with the udated paraell plugs (in proper spec) fire up much much 
sharper as low as 10 degrees F, not as cold, I know but it was nice to see 
that '77 slowly spin to life as it was shown to be perfectly natural.


I tried to learn a bit of German (but got lazy) and know a few words, this 
may help me a bit but if you watch it a few times, you can pick up more and 
more of the terms and specs they are reffering to.  This guy speaks clear 
and slow, which helps too.  That model list shows HP and 0-100kmh times, and 
they list several mgp ratings (as total fuel consumption in liters per 100 
kilometers- which takes some calculating!)   but I thik the test overal 
yielded 12.1 or 12.9 liters used for 100km of distance


I had a 200D, it does make the 240 seem spry!  Notice there was also a 220D- 
they kept that displacement in the W123 because is was so popular in the 
W115 series, but only about 26k were made up to '79 because this market 
mentality only went so far after all the other, more powerful 240's and 
300's had been proven, and the 2nd tier option of 4 and eventually 5 diesel 
powerplants just fell by the wayside.  4 levels of power within 25 HP!  I 
guess part of what I think is so cool about the way MB did things then was 
the model evolution type of production, like the 911, few face-lifts, 
intense breeding of refinement from within, verses ALL NEW!! types of 
marketing prduction common amongst the domestics.  I think the old German 
marques are trending this way increasingly.



Vince



From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:50:44 -0700

I wish I could know what they are displaying in terms of those statistics - 
some seem to be acceleration, then later fuel mileage? I know some of you 
auto-geeks will fill us in. Whatever all the numbers mean, they are 
pointing out a good, better, better, best progression from the 200 to the 
220 to the 240 to the 300. Man, cool to finally see that the 240 is better 
than something.


Actually, most revelatory in the video, to me, is seeing that that brand 
new car had play in the steering column - both when he gets in the car in 
that cold garage, and when driving.


Brian


From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:29:14 -0600

neat.  Too bad I cant understand german.

V Layton wrote:

 This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago
 but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway.  I've been
 seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, 
it

 has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history!  Scroll
 down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton
 code type thing.  It's totally worth a look, and it's in German.

 http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html

 Vince
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[MBZ] Growling clutch, 300TD

2006-01-14 Thread Euan
Happy New Year from the Antipodes, everyone

I kid you not, but yesterday, within no more than one minute of me saying to
the Treasurer, now that we've just purchased this very expensive furniture,
I'll bet the wagon craps out, the clutch in the Benz began to growl and
vibrate. One lousy minute! I could feel the vibrations through the clutch
pedal itself, and the growling occurred when the clutch was depressed. There
is a muted kind of howling when changing gear.

So what might this be, do you think?

Euan

1985 300TD 5-spd manual
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Re: [MBZ] plastic oil sucker

2006-01-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel
This may be what you're looking for:
 
 
http://www.toolsource.com/ost//product.asp?brand_id=sourceid=googlemityvacdept_id=500pf_id=91487mscssid=2KBSCPCQE7G58NKHHRX9W0VT7QM59NUC
 
 Mighty Vac. 8.8L capacity. Toolsource has the whole line of Mighty Vac 
products. Of course you can do the same with a carbuoy and a vacuum cleaner, 
but then you have an oily carbuoy and hoses sitting around. Haven't bought one 
yet, but probably will, as oil changes around here are about $80 for the 617.
 
 Karl in DC

Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 6 months ago, someone posted info 
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similar to the top-sider, but all plastic. It was fairly expensive, 
IIRC. I think someone had been involved in a group purchase.

I can't locate the posting. Can someone list the brand name, etc.?

I want this for my boat diesel--I don't like carrying the 
metal-topsider around and think the plastic will work better.

Thanks,
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Yeah, the engine temp makes a huge difference.  The materials the
Suck-Up is made of seem to be able to handle oil at operating
temperature just fine.  The first time I used it was on my ex's VW
TDI.  She brought it over and I hooked up the Suck-Up immediately, so
the oil was about as hot as can be.  Slurped it all out in less than
five minutes (only a gallon on that little engine, but still
impressive).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

On 1/14/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I bought one of those suckups from the hitler list deal a while back.
 Never used it till the other day.  I just prefer the old fashed way of
 draining it.  I suppose it probably would have worked better if I had my
 oil a little warm but it was stone cold.

 Ron Dwelle wrote:

  About 6 months ago, someone posted info on a big plastic oil sucker,
  similar to the top-sider, but all plastic. It was fairly expensive,
  IIRC. I think someone had been involved in a group purchase.
 
  I can't locate the posting. Can someone list the brand name, etc.?
 
  I want this for my boat diesel--I don't like carrying the
  metal-topsider around and think the plastic will work better.
 
  Thanks,
  Ron Dwelle
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I've got a long drive PLUS I need a name

2006-01-14 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that andrew wrote:

 Sorry to dissent, but I am opposed to the silly anthropomorphism of naming
 cars , e.g. gertrude, Brunhilde, Otto, Hammer, etc.  Dogs yes, cars
 no.

For you it may be silly. For me it is essential. With more that 1/2 a
dozen W123s I have to be able to reference a particular car.

I find it much more cumbersome to say I think that's in the yellow
1982 sedan with that I got just after the 81 than it is to say I
think that's in Aaron

_And_ I can write Aaron on a key.

 Philip, who likes names for streets and cars but
does not bother to anthropomorphize either.



Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

2006-01-14 Thread Bob Rentfro
Initially it was Tri Star Petes. When Tempe expansion finally caught up to 
them and Pete was faced with having to move, he decided to sell. I'm not 
sure who bought all his stuff and moved it all, but since Pete and the other 
guys left, (who had been there for years) it has been a different place. I 
haven't heard anything bad about them except they are harder to deal with 
now and the dudes that are there now no where nearly as friendly or 
knowledgeable, or caring as Pete and his bunch were.
I haven't been over there lately. I used to hit it once every couple of 
weeks or so because you never know when you might see something you can't 
live without.
I'm not sure if there is anything I can do to help you out, Brian. I've 
never bought an engine before...I wouldn.t be familiar with what to look for 
or at exactly.
If you need me to check something out, within my capabilities of course, I 
have Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday off next week.


Bob Rentfro (30 minutes from Tri Star)
'77 300D 147K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Tri Star comes recommended by this list. They are recommended by a 
mechanic
that I was referred to by this list. Well, not actually recommended by 
him,

but he said it's better that I'm going with them than with some of the
others around there.

They seem to be a well-known outfit. The thing that's filling me with
distrust is the sound of the guy I have spoken to - not what I expected 
from

a sharp outfit - more like some of the doorknobs I've dealt with from your
average run-down junk yard - but on the other hand, I would feel 
suspicious
of someone that sounded too polished. It didn't help that I got 
conflicting

information about every time I called. Add to this the generally shady
nature of the salvage business, and you see why I'm trying to think of
worst-cases.

Forgive me if I've asked the same question twice - just being human. It is
interesting to hear that it's not necessary to have the tranny attached in
order to mount and run the starter. However, it's a thin line when one
starts to tell one's mechanic that they know better than they do (you 
don't

want to piss off your chef or waiter too much before you get your meal).

Yeah, Larry, if I was close to your area, I might take you up on the help.
In fact, I'm not even close to my car right now (I'm in MN, it's in AZ) so
I'm relying on this indy.

I spoke with a different guy at Tri Star on the phone yesterday, and I 
asked

him some things. He said that their process when they get a car from an
auction or elsewhere is to try to start the engine if it has oil, etc. If 
it
doesn't start, they don't try again 'til someone puts down money on it. 
This

is apparently the case with my engine, as the dude I dealt with said that
once I faxed my CC number, he'd have the mechanic pull the engine out of 
the

car and it would be compression checked and started up (and according to
this second guy, also leak-down checked). If the engine was no good, I'd 
get

the next one down the line (which had some 250k miles on it, so the price
would be adjusted down) So for one reason or another my engine wouldn't
start while still in its car. I've already mentioned how very easy it 
would

be for them to deliver me the higher mileage engine rather than the nice,
fresh one. It would be going against human nature not to do so.

So for those of us not as mechanically inclined as most of the list, it's 
a

big time matter of trust. For the general population, mechanics, just like
doctors, plumbers, lawyers, etc. etc. have us just where they want us.
Do-it-yourself-ers are fortunate indeed.

Brian
83 240D


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:04:19 -0500

Hi Brian,
This may have been asked already - what is Tri-Star's reputation?  Is
there anything like the rating on eBay where vendors are rated?  I know 
BBB

will record problems - but my experience is their info is not helpful
unless
the vendor has screwed hundreds or thousands of customers.

I remember seeing Tri-Star advertise in The Star and other Mercedes
related areas.   I can't really remember hearing anything negative about
them - but what other people experience won't help you if you end up with 
a

bad engine.

I'm just rambling here - it would sure simplify things if you could
make
the engine change yourself!  Where are you located - I'll help if you're
close to Richmond Va.

I'm not fast, but I *am* cheap.  ;-)  I rebuilt my 240D engine 10
years
ago (Geez, the time flies) and it's still running strong after 30k miles.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results 

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression/TriStar reputation

2006-01-14 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 1/14/2006 1:28:57 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So for  those of us not as mechanically inclined as most of the list, it's a 
big  time matter of trust. For the general population, mechanics, just like  
doctors, plumbers, lawyers, etc. etc. have us just where they want us.  
Do-it-yourself-ers are fortunate indeed.
Brian,



I did a lot of diesel parts business with TriStar before they moved and got  
treated honestly and fairly on my parts.  They even replaced an air cleaner  
bracket (that they sold me) that lasted less than a year but warned me that my  
motor mounts were bad (true) and they wouldn't do it again.  
 
I have not dealt with them since they moved to West Broadway so do not know  
if their principles and/or principals remain the same.
 
I believe all you need to crank the engine, for a compression test, is  the 
flexplate, which has the ring gear on it.  The starter mounts on the  engine 
side of the block and the starter bolts might be a little too long  without the 
transmission, but a couple spacers should fix that!
 
Having said that, a cold cranking compression test is likely to be all over  
the map because you don't have any idea how much oil is clinging to the rings  
and cylinders.  Squirting oil in there leaves you wondering how much  
compression is from the oil and how much is from cranking.  
 
As they are currently discussing this on the Stu list, (topic was flooding  a 
diesel) even a good engine my require tow starting after sitting a long time  
because of lack of oil seal on the rings.  I say put it in and get it  
running.  If TriStar said it was good you gotta go with that.
 
And when you are totally disgusted with the 240D, bring me $4500 and you  can 
DRIVE my rust free, just broken in, 79 300SD back to Minnesota.  No  core 
charge either!
 
Good luck,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Growling clutch, 300TD

2006-01-14 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 1/14/2006 2:24:59 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I kid  you not, but yesterday, within no more than one minute of me saying to
the  Treasurer, now that we've just purchased this very expensive  furniture,
I'll bet the wagon craps out, the clutch in the Benz began to  growl and
vibrate. One lousy minute! I could feel the vibrations through  the clutch
pedal itself, and the growling occurred when the clutch was  depressed. There
is a muted kind of howling when changing gear.

So  what might this be, do you think?



Euan,
 
Probably the throw out bearing which moves the pressure plate is bad.   They 
can make noise for a long time and not hurt anything.  As long as the  clutch 
releases properly you could take your time with this annoyance.  You  will 
have to pull the trans to replace it.  
 
Meanwhile, I would pull the fill plug on the transmission and make sure  
there is some ATF in there as the noise could be coming from a dry gearbox,  
too.  
It should be right up to the bottom of the fill plug hole but could  be low 
an inch or so and still be safe.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Tschuss

2006-01-14 Thread David Brodbeck
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 Adopted, yes.  Adopted correctly, no.  Microsoft's user-interface
 bozos were too stupid to realize that the command or open apple
 key on the Mac and Apple II was not the same as the control key but
 had a different function entirely.  Since control already had a
 recognized function---sending commands to control a remote system in
 terminal emulation, hence the name---they should have used a different
 key.

It took Apple a while, too.  Early Mac keyboards had no control key,
forcing hacks like using the Option key instead in terminal software.



Re: [MBZ] old mystery car

2006-01-14 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 1/14/2006 1:47:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124629311.html

stick shift  V8  euro

2500

wonder what it is



Clay,
 
Probably a euro 350SE or maybe a 450SE, both V8s.  I had a 65 euro  300SE 
(big 3.0 litre 6 cyl) with a 4 speed stick.  Very stout!  It was  serial number 
52, wish I still had it
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles



[MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123

2006-01-14 Thread Steve Marci
Attn 123 folks.  Is it OK to LIFT under the differential using a floor jack 
(and wood block) ??



Regards
Steve
85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
82 TD project wagon
64 VW Bug
65 D15, AC tractor 






Re: [MBZ] Must.... resist.... urge....

2006-01-14 Thread LT Don
It would be a lot more desirable if there was a pic.

On 1/14/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124882537.html

 maybe Jim needs this


 or Casey


 anybody?
 --
 Clay
 Seattle Bioburner

 1972 220D - Gump
 1995 E300D - Cleo
 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
 The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123

2006-01-14 Thread LT Don
Why would you do that, unless you are replacing the differential? Lots of
good jack points available that are not part of the drivetrain.  ... Or am I
missing something obvious?

On 1/14/06, Steve  Marci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Attn 123 folks.  Is it OK to LIFT under the differential using a floor
 jack
 (and wood block) ??


 Regards
  Steve
 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
 82 TD project wagon
 64 VW Bug
 65 D15, AC tractor



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Re: [MBZ] man, I wanted this

2006-01-14 Thread LT Don
Hans --

Would that really make a dent in your monthly discretionary income?   :-)

Don


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 http://cgi.ebay.com/MOOSE-ANIMAL-HUNT-RIFLE-GUN-WOOD-FOREST-MAINE-SIGNS_W0QQitemZ7210117345QQcategoryZ10890QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: [MBZ] Must.... resist.... urge....

2006-01-14 Thread Zeitgeist
...uh, my project cup runneth over already, though I will admit I did
give it some thought.

On 1/14/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124882537.html

 maybe Jim needs this


 or Casey


 anybody?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123

2006-01-14 Thread Zeitgeist
It may not be the preferred point of lift, but that's what I've been
doing for years.  It's convenient cuz it's centrally located, and only
requires you to jack once going up, and once going down.  I don't even
use the wood block, since Harbor Freight has a nifty little
rubber-faced jack pad, which helps to avoid marring any sensitive
jack-point surfaces.

On 1/14/06, Steve  Marci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Attn 123 folks.  Is it OK to LIFT under the differential using a floor jack
 (and wood block) ??

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123

2006-01-14 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve  Marci wrote:
 Attn 123 folks.  Is it OK to LIFT under the differential using a floor jack 
 (and wood block) ??

I did it that way once on my W123, after being assured on this list that
it wouldn't hurt anything.  It's a good spot to do a 2-wheel rear lift.
  It didn't seem to do any damage, but maybe my diff mounts are just too
shot to begin with to hurt any further. ;)



Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

2006-01-14 Thread Steve Marci


Thats the way I did it, just cranked it over with the starter. Adaptor 
plate  fly wheel must be on the engine. Your numbers wont be as accurate 
as with a warm engine but thats not an option for you with the engine 
sitting on the garage floor.  You just dont want to see a big spread in the 
numbers.  For $160 you can buy a compression tester and have $ left over to 
celebrate when shes up and running :-)


Regards
Steve
85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
82 TD project wagon
64 VW Bug
65 D15, AC tractor


Message: 11
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:18:58 -0600
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
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As was said before YES you do need to check the compression BEFORE you
install the engine.  You DONT have to hook up a transmission to test it,
you just need to bolt the starter up.  Shouldnt take more than 20 or 30
minutes with the engine sitting on the ground there.  Just hook the
starter up, jump battery power to the starter to crank it over.  160 is
rape for that job.






[MBZ] $50 Quantum project car

2006-01-14 Thread LT Don
Last pic (sent to Banned only) was taken at night -- thought I'd send a pic
taken when the sun was actually shining.

Loren: here's what it looks like after a good bath and some Turtle Wax.

When Iowa is blessed with a 47 degree day in mid-January, ya just gotta get
outside and work on the car!

Don

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