[MBZ] This might be a good deal -- Dallas charity auction
Stock No: 16-51129 Lot No: 43 Year: 1983 Make: Mercedes Benz Model: 300D Color: White VIN:WDBAB33A5DB026249 Odometer: 154071 Location: Dallas Radio: Car Complete: Start: Tires Good: Battery: Spare Tire: Door Key: Trunk Key: Ignition Key: Replaced Parts in last Year? What Parts? Alternator Anything wrong: can`t get it to keep running, replaced the alternator and battery, got a used starter, but quit messing with it. Is the car Drivable? http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=14135vType=1 Says it won't keep running, replaced alternator, batt, starter. I'm thinking fuel clog or air in line? --R
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 no start
Peter Frederick wrote: Algae in the tank, the tank screen is plugged, most likely. Or you may have bug throughout the fuel system. That would be consistent with the description. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] This might be a good deal -- Dallas charity auction
Scroll down in orig msg for this: http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=14135vType=1 Says it won't keep running, replaced alternator, batt, starter. I'm thinking fuel clog or air in line? --R Rich Thomas wrote: Stock No: 16-51129 Lot No: 43 Year: 1983 Make: Mercedes Benz Model: 300D Color: White VIN:WDBAB33A5DB026249 Odometer: 154071 Location: Dallas Radio: Car Complete: Start: Tires Good: Battery: Spare Tire: Door Key: Trunk Key: Ignition Key: Replaced Parts in last Year? What Parts? Alternator Anything wrong: can`t get it to keep running, replaced the alternator and battery, got a used starter, but quit messing with it. Is the car Drivable? http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=14135vType=1 Says it won't keep running, replaced alternator, batt, starter. I'm thinking fuel clog or air in line? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: South (SF) Bay MBZ mechanic recommendations?]
Original Message Subject: South (SF) Bay MBZ mechanic recommendations? Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi! i got this from a friend of someone... can anyone help make a recommendation/warning? please use 'Reply All' when responding! thanks! cheers! e I have a co-worker who is considering buying a mid- to late-80s M-B diesel. Anyone have a recommendation of a shop in the South Bay to get a PPI?
[MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
Original Message Subject:The W124 Bible Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:49:48 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I bought the above manual a few eeeks ago from Rusty for around $25 and have finally gotten thru most of it briefly. I haven't spent the time to read every page in detail but I have seen enough to know this is going to be a *very* useful reference manual! I highly recommend it - It's got a list of off-the-wall problems like we see in the real world - along with the solutions. I expect to get a lot of use from this over the coming years. Don't know if Marshall refers to this or not, but I see answers that *sound* like they came from Herr Diesel Dokter. ;-) Things like Cuts out while coasting might be Loss of tach signal. Pretty cool! Anyway - it's on Rustys website -- 340+ pages of W124 E Class help. covering years 86-95. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net http://www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
Marshall Booth wrote: Lot's of people felt that the 617.950 engine in a 116 was faster than the 617.951 engine in a 126. Emissions requirements WERE different! My '79 (small cam, no EGR) is very strong off the line but 0-60 isn't anything to get excited about. 1980s had the big cam and everybody I've talked to who owned one thought it quite fast for a 2 ton diesel. IIRC, all 617 and 616 got the big cam in 1980. The big cam came with new bearing towers, because the old bearing bores were smaller than the new cam lobes.
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
Striplin Admin account wrote: Original Message Subject:The W124 Bible Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:49:48 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I bought the above manual a few eeeks ago from Rusty for around $25 and have finally gotten thru most of it briefly. I haven't spent the time to read every page in detail but I have seen enough to know this is going to be a *very* useful reference manual! I highly recommend it - It's got a list of off-the-wall problems like we see in the real world - along with the solutions. I expect to get a lot of use from this over the coming years. Don't know if Marshall refers to this or not, but I see answers that *sound* like they came from Herr Diesel Dokter. ;-) Things like Cuts out while coasting might be Loss of tach signal. Pretty cool! Anyway - it's on Rustys website -- 340+ pages of W124 E Class help. covering years 86-95. The Bible was written by Stu Ritter (who serviced Mercedes cars for more than 30 years). He's also the Tech Editor of the MBCA Star magazine. He know the cars VERY well. Presently he owns and drives a 124 400E and a '95 E320T. Stu did most of the photography as well. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
[MBZ] [Fwd: Wheel Paint]
Original Message Subject: Wheel Paint Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:01:43 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone found any place with low prices on Wurth or equivilent silver paint for alloy wheels? I'll need the clear also - Griots has a Wurth equiv individually or as a package for $60 including 2 cans of silver and 2 of clear, a silicone, etc cleaner and zinc spray to stabilize the surface. The individual can of ciler and clear are $9.99 each. Any better deals out there? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
Another good one is the Mercedes Technical Companion available from Bentley publisher's. The diy section has good repair's of common faults including the Becker radio repair section. I have both the manuals and would be a little more inclined on this one . mak - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible] Striplin Admin account wrote: Original Message Subject: The W124 Bible Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:49:48 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I bought the above manual a few eeeks ago from Rusty for around $25 and have finally gotten thru most of it briefly. I haven't spent the time to read every page in detail but I have seen enough to know this is going to be a *very* useful reference manual! I highly recommend it - It's got a list of off-the-wall problems like we see in the real world - along with the solutions. I expect to get a lot of use from this over the coming years. Don't know if Marshall refers to this or not, but I see answers that *sound* like they came from Herr Diesel Dokter. ;-) Things like Cuts out while coasting might be Loss of tach signal. Pretty cool! Anyway - it's on Rustys website -- 340+ pages of W124 E Class help. covering years 86-95. The Bible was written by Stu Ritter (who serviced Mercedes cars for more than 30 years). He's also the Tech Editor of the MBCA Star magazine. He know the cars VERY well. Presently he owns and drives a 124 400E and a '95 E320T. Stu did most of the photography as well. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/357 - Release Date: 6/6/2006
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Wheel Paint]
Striplin Admin account wrote: Original Message Subject: Wheel Paint Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:01:43 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone found any place with low prices on Wurth or equivilent silver paint for alloy wheels? I'll need the clear also - Griots has a Wurth equiv individually or as a package for $60 including 2 cans of silver and 2 of clear, a silicone, etc cleaner and zinc spray to stabilize the surface. The individual can of ciler and clear are $9.99 each. In the past, listers have given good reports about both products. Most important seems to be preparation of the wheels and using VERY many light coats. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 no start
Yeah, but that was where we started. No black in the prefilter, fed it by gravity from a can through the filter and prefilter. Good fuel flow through the filters and out the main filter. Same behavior ( starts but starves) feeding the engine from the can by gravity. Algae is always my first suspicion. How do you determine for sure if the shut-off valve is good or not? I still plan to try the pressurizing trick, and putting an electric fuel pump between the tank and prefilter. At 06:38 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Algae in the tank, the tank screen is plugged, most likely. Or you may have bug throughout the fuel system. That would be consistent with the description. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Wheel Paint]
John Peterson posted a while ago about his experience with 124 wheel paint. Can't remember the source. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Has anyone found any place with low prices on Wurth or equivilent silver paint for alloy wheels? I'll need the clear also - Griots has a Wurth equiv individually or as a package for $60 including 2 cans of silver and 2 of clear, a silicone, etc cleaner and zinc spray to stabilize the surface. The individual can of ciler and clear are $9.99 each. In the past, listers have given good reports about both products. Most important seems to be preparation of the wheels and using VERY many light coats. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 no start
Make sure you have flow out of the IP overflow -- a clog in the inlet line will prevent fuel delivery to the IP fill gallery, and hence nothing out the injectors. A plugged main filter, or plugged main filter to IP line, will cause you problem. It's possible the IP is toast (although this one isn't any worse than any other, I don't believe, except for the electronic idle speed control). Not likely, though. No fuel out the injector lines with the cap nuts cracked sure sounds like a dry IP to me. If the stop lever is up, the shutoff is fine. Should press down easily and stop the engine instantly, and rise instantly when the key is switched on. It is possible that the shutoff mechanism is stuck, but some injector cleaner (Diesel Purge) should fix that pronto. Again, make SURE you have fuel going into and coming out of the IP, not just the filters. A plugged feed line will cause 100% of the fuel to overflow the main filter.. Once you get the IP full of air, it can take a while to purge it out, and you must also purge the injection lines before it will run properly. Peter
Re: [MBZ] [Bulk] Re: [Fwd: Wheel Paint]
I sand blasted my wheels, cleaned them with acetone, several light coats of epoxy primer, several light coasts of base coat, and about 10 light layers of clear coat. I used a professional spray gun..Wheels look better than new cuz no clear coat in that era. suggest used light sprays of each application with a spray can...those new spray can which can be recharged seem to look good in theory. Keep in mind the more moisture in the air, fish eyes will appear on the painted surface.. Bill 1981 300 TD Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: John Peterson posted a while ago about his experience with 124 wheel paint. Can't remember the source. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Has anyone found any place with low prices on Wurth or equivilent silver paint for alloy wheels? I'll need the clear also - Griots has a Wurth equiv individually or as a package for $60 including 2 cans of silver and 2 of clear, a silicone, etc cleaner and zinc spray to stabilize the surface. The individual can of ciler and clear are $9.99 each. In the past, listers have given good reports about both products. Most important seems to be preparation of the wheels and using VERY many light coats. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 no start
I'll check all that when i get there. I will be on the road the next 10 days. Will post what i find when i get a chance. Thanks to all who offered ideas. Loren At 09:26 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote: Make sure you have flow out of the IP overflow -- a clog in the inlet line will prevent fuel delivery to the IP fill gallery, and hence nothing out the injectors. A plugged main filter, or plugged main filter to IP line, will cause you problem. It's possible the IP is toast (although this one isn't any worse than any other, I don't believe, except for the electronic idle speed control). Not likely, though. No fuel out the injector lines with the cap nuts cracked sure sounds like a dry IP to me. If the stop lever is up, the shutoff is fine. Should press down easily and stop the engine instantly, and rise instantly when the key is switched on. It is possible that the shutoff mechanism is stuck, but some injector cleaner (Diesel Purge) should fix that pronto. Again, make SURE you have fuel going into and coming out of the IP, not just the filters. A plugged feed line will cause 100% of the fuel to overflow the main filter.. Once you get the IP full of air, it can take a while to purge it out, and you must also purge the injection lines before it will run properly. Peter
Re: [MBZ] A possibly entertaining story, addition.
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:08:41 -0400 Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who sells them? Now that you mention it, I have heard my mom talk about this from way back, but never understood what she meant. I have central AC but dislike it, so I'm very interested in this. How well they work depends upon where you live. (Where do you live?) Here in dry New Mexico, they work quite well, even filtering some forest fire smoke out of the air going into the house. Craig
Re: [MBZ] unobtanium, but on crack
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 10:26:43 -0400 John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High? If it really has 127,000, $3500 is real fair. Although, as usual the auction is not near over. Why do salvage titles scare people so much? What if it was a recovered stolen or something that didn't involve chassis damage? What if it was totaled and repaired properly?The seller might be truthful if asked about it. I asked. I'll let you know what he says. Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: A possibly entertaining story, addition.
In a message dated 6/7/2006 1:41:43 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agreed with what you said, Johnny Buntil I moved to AZ. AC is a must in AZ. Bob, and All, The wife and I dropped by one of our favorite Chandler Sports Bars about 5PM on Tuesday. I think it was about 106 degrees. As we went to sit down we were told the AC was out. We could feel a lot of air moving from the ceiling fans so we stayed. We were there nearly two hours while having supper and cold libations. It wasn't too bad. I did offer to try a power off reset for them, but the manager declined, saying they had tried that and service would be there in the morning. Regards Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 142 K miles
Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
On Jun 8, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: Lot's of people felt that the 617.950 engine in a 116 was faster than the 617.951 engine in a 126. Emissions requirements WERE different! Marshall I know my 79 300SD aka the $100 car gets up and goes better than any 300D, 300CD, 300TD or 81 and later 300SD I have driven. I have owned all the models listed, lots of them and driven many, many more. I never swapped an earlier turbo engine a la W116 300SD into a later 123 or 126 but gearing has to have some effect and I believe final drive ratios are not the same. Never ran the $100 car until it would go no faster but am willing to wager that it will not top out at the same speed as any turbo 123 in stock trim. Another observation I have made is that right out of the crate, without tweaking wastegate and ALDA a 123 turbodiesel from 82 will walk all over an 83,84 or 85. Post tweak I detect no difference at all. This scenario has been tested by your's truly over and over. Not being able to measure actual enrichment besides the tell-tale wisp of black smoke at high revs may not be too scientific but I strove to attain an even 12psi boost across the board. I would expect the 126 w/turbodiesel to lose a drag race against 123s and 116s. It just stands to reason that being a larger and heavier car it should. While I'm at it, in my opinion, nothing compares to how the station wagons with good front and rear suspension ease on down the road. All the coupes I've owned road harsher but cornered flatter and with greater ease. I love'em all. What was the question? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
I would expect the 126 w/turbodiesel to lose a drag race against 123s and 116s. But not the 603-equipped SDL's, of course! They really do scoot. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 no start
On Jun 8, 2006, at 1:45 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: I bet there weren't 15 per square mile back when there were still wolves around. Studies in the Adirondack Region of NY show that the wolves still exist but they cross-bred with coyotes. Every single coyote that was tested had both red wolf and grey timberwolf DNA. The nationwide average weight of coyotes is 26#, according to the study. Around here it is common to see them well over 40#. They look more like a German Shepard than Wiley Coyote. Out West they look scrawny and mangey in comparison. They have also adopted some of the wolf-pack hunting techniques and several hikers, joggers and backroad strollers reported being encircled by them and deeply concerned for their own well-being. A friend and native resident of my home town and his wife were worked by a pack in broad daylight to the point that they fled to a near-by farmhouse to call for a ride. They felt they were in real danger. Coyotes, by nature are timid animals and rarely hang around in the presence of adult humans and domestic dogs. There may be environmental factors at play too, many housing developments have sprung up in this area. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grand Cherokee for Toyota Compact pick-up swap
On Jun 8, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Dave Wakin wrote: Johnny, Here is one not to far away from you - needs some work and not 4x4 though. Dave W Thanks but it must be a 4x4. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
On Jun 8, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: What's the best way to track down a leak like this? Run it under water with your thumb on the breather hole and look for bubbles? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
On Jun 8, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: Start by cleaning the engine. Then look for new oil deposits over the next few days. Marshall I've suggested the same months ago. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Wheel Paint
Those are good prices- I did all 4 wheels this year, prep is key as with any paint job. Light coats of the paint, sanding slightly with 400 between. Then the lacquer, 4 coats and sand before the last one. I think they turned out perfect- hard pressed to see the difference from factory. Durability is unknown at this point, they have lasted 6 mo so far. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 79k Wurth Wheels Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: John Peterson posted a while ago about his experience with 124 wheel paint. Can't remember the source. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Has anyone found any place with low prices on Wurth or equivilent silver paint for alloy wheels? I'll need the clear also - Griots has a Wurth equiv individually or as a package for $60 including 2 cans of silver and 2 of clear, a silicone, etc cleaner and zinc spray to stabilize the surface. The individual can of ciler and clear are $9.99 each. In the past, listers have given good reports about both products. Most important seems to be preparation of the wheels and using VERY many light coats. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Swamp coolers
Careful with the swamp coolersEver hear of Legionnaires disease(Sp?)Spread by those giant roof mounted swamp coolers if they aren't kept sanitized. Mike - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swamp coolers There are still lots of swamp coolers around here in AZ. New ones are available.Mostly used for replacement .. Newer homes (last 15 years) only have A/C... Most they are roof mounted and bring in dry air, pass it through a waterfall and distribute the humidified air throughout the duct system of a house. Downside... The calcium and other stuff in the water can build up and make a mess. Really should have a water decalcification system to go with it. Many homes have both A/C and swamp coolers and use one or the other depending on how high the temp gets.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ Only has A/C and keep it at 83F... On Jun 8, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, basically its sort of like an AC, sort of. They have different sizes of them ranging from little table top ones to bigger ones that sit outside the window with the air vent sticking in the windows blowing in. You basically fill the pan up with water and it pumps the water up to the top and trickles down a fiberous material thru which a fan blows air with is cooled by the flowing water. They can actually work pretty well. You have to refill it with water every so often. Steve MacSween wrote: Okay, now you have me interested but confused. Is this a dehumidifier you're talking about? Mac on 6/8/06 10:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didnt know people still used those things. We called them water coolers here. I remember when I was a kit many folks used to use those things before they had AC, in fact, we used to use one as well. Desert Rat wrote: What I appreciate the most about dry heat is the fact that all I need to cool our place is an evaporator cooler for pennies a day instead of $ per hour if I had to use the A.C. Other day it was 114 and never had to use AC. Now, when we get the monsoons in August and humidity goes over 40%, the cooler doesn't work. On 6/7/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap '78 300 CD in SE MA
Called on this in the local paper. $600 or BO. Guy said he'd take 400. Doesn't run-engine turns but doesn't start. Guy had bought the car as a project and is now giving up. Said someone told him it might be the rack-don't know if it was a mechanic or not.. Don't know about mileage. Said body is good. Yellow with brown leather interior. I am tempted by the fantasy that new fuel filters and fresh fuel would turn it into a 3K car or a Kevin special CD-but can't chance the IP .. May go look at it just for fun but probably not, even though I desperately want a 123 coupe. Here is contact info- 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300 Description - $600, MERCEDES: 1978 300 CD Coupe, $600 or best offer. Call 508-977-0549. It is in Dighton MA-about 20 miles east of Providence RI No interest etc (except coupe drool on shirt.) Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI
[MBZ] times running out OK Don
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4646349169rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cheap '78 300 CD in SE MA
Come and get it Kaleb!!! Less than your usual price so it shouldn't be T far. LOLOL, Mike - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Cheap '78 300 CD in SE MA Called on this in the local paper. $600 or BO. Guy said he'd take 400. Doesn't run-engine turns but doesn't start. Guy had bought the car as a project and is now giving up. Said someone told him it might be the rack-don't know if it was a mechanic or not.. Don't know about mileage. Said body is good. Yellow with brown leather interior. I am tempted by the fantasy that new fuel filters and fresh fuel would turn it into a 3K car or a Kevin special CD-but can't chance the IP .. May go look at it just for fun but probably not, even though I desperately want a 123 coupe. Here is contact info- 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300 Description - $600, MERCEDES: 1978 300 CD Coupe, $600 or best offer. Call 508-977-0549. It is in Dighton MA-about 20 miles east of Providence RI No interest etc (except coupe drool on shirt.) Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Bulk] Re: [Fwd: Wheel Paint]
Bill wrote:I used a professional spray gun.. Thanks for the info on painting - since you use a gun air pressure I assume you used paint from a quart can or similar. Where/what kind of paint did you use? My paint guy can probably provide a product similar to Wurth but I suspect there might be additives in the paint making it more appropriate for use on wheels. I always buy the paint I use to paint my cars from a PPG dealer and have gotten comfortable using the Omni AU product line. I wonder if PPG would carry a color that's suitable? I'll call my paint guy later -- Thanks again for all the help -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Bulk] Re: [Fwd: Wheel Paint] I sand blasted my wheels, cleaned them with acetone, several light coats of epoxy primer, several light coasts of base coat, and about 10 light layers of clear coat. I used a professional spray gun..Wheels look better than new cuz no clear coat in that era. suggest used light sprays of each application with a spray can...those new spray can which can be recharged seem to look good in theory. Keep in mind the more moisture in the air, fish eyes will appear on the painted surface.. Bill 1981 300 TD Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: John Peterson posted a while ago about his experience with 124 wheel paint. Can't remember the source. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Has anyone found any place with low prices on Wurth or equivilent silver paint for alloy wheels? I'll need the clear also - Griots has a Wurth equiv individually or as a package for $60 including 2 cans of silver and 2 of clear, a silicone, etc cleaner and zinc spray to stabilize the surface. The individual can of ciler and clear are $9.99 each. In the past, listers have given good reports about both products. Most important seems to be preparation of the wheels and using VERY many light coats. Marshall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
I am going to Replace the compressor, Dryer, under hood AC lines and the expansion valve (bummer) in my 85 300SD. It currently has a R12 charge (a bit low) and has remained sealed. I will have the Freon removed ( yeh I know we use to just vent it, rules are rules I will just live with them). I have found more that one AC shop that will charge it with R12. (for a price). After I reassemble it I intend to evacuate it. I have a 1HP Alcatel 2 stage lab Vacuum pump. And get it down to 100 microns or so .. Not having R12 anymore I intend to put about 5 to 10 PSI of dry nitrogen in the system so it is not trying to draw out side air while I am waiting to get it charged (logistically it could be about a week) I will have the AC compressor unplugged to prevent unfortunate events.Now the system will have no oil in it. Is it acceptable the have the AC shop use the oil charge or should I try to find some oil in a bottle and pore it in while reassembling the system. When I open it I have been told to look for 'mud' and if it has it, it will need to be purged ..Sugestions . George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket)
[MBZ] What tire size are people running with 15-inch rims, on the older cars?
Just curious... plan to put some 15 rims I have, onto my w126, and I'd like to try some 205/65-15 tires I have lying around here. IIRC, conventional wisdom has it that you should use 70-series, which is what I had with the 15 Mille Miglia rims on my w116 SD. TKS -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s Volvo: '87 245 (waiting for OM616 transplant) SAAB: '83 900T (waiting for a miracle)
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
Where can I get the w123 bible ? or is there such a thing ? Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 92kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
I am going to Replace the compressor, Dryer, under hood AC lines Easy-squeezy! and the expansion valve (bummer) in my 85 300SD. So sorry to be you! After I reassemble it I intend to evacuate it. I have a 1HP Alcatel 2 stage lab Vacuum pump. And get it down to 100 microns or so .. Vast overkill, and the pressure will never get that low due to the oil boiling slightly. But that won't hurt any. Not having R12 anymore I intend to put about 5 to 10 PSI of dry nitrogen in the system so it is not trying to draw out side air while I am waiting to get it charged (logistically it could be about a week) I will have the AC compressor unplugged to prevent unfortunate events. That sounds reasonable. You can go up to 100 psi or more with no ill effects. That might help to show up any small leaks. Now the system will have no oil in it. Is it acceptable the have the AC shop use the oil charge or should I try to find some oil in a bottle Just let them do it, I can't imagine they'll bill all that much. It's just oil, after all (of the correct sort), and something they should have on hand. When I open it I have been told to look for 'mud' and if it has it, it will need to be purged ..Sugestions . If the hose from the compressor is full of gunk it's because the old compressor grenaded and put shrapnel all through the system. That can be difficult to completely remove, and if any is left it will take out the new compressor quickly. Given your other replacements, a new condenser might not be a bad way to go in that case, as it's immediately downstream from the compressor. The remainder of the system would need to get a good flushing too. My AC stories: http://cathey.dogear.com/efair.html http://cathey.dogear.com/cwair.html Deep vacuuming app note: http://www.jbind.com/tech_info/pdf_docs/DeepVacArticle.pdf -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] A possibly entertaining story, addition.
What is the humidity level in the building when they are working well? Do people who use them have any problems with mold growth? Gerry - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A possibly entertaining story, addition. On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:08:41 -0400 Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who sells them? Now that you mention it, I have heard my mom talk about this from way back, but never understood what she meant. I have central AC but dislike it, so I'm very interested in this. --- How well they work depends upon where you live. (Where do you live?) Here in dry New Mexico, they work quite well, even filtering some forest fire smoke out of the air going into the house. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/357 - Release Date: 6/6/2006
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[MBZ] 240D Evap drain tube?
Someone please tell me how to get to the evap drain tube. Its leaking or missing. 1981 Manny tran. Right side inside? Left side inside? Under the car? Any idea what size hose I'll need for a replacement? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
nope, no 123 bible. you are abandoned and on your own best thing for you to look for is the old service manuals in book form. they are always floating about on ebay On 6/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I get the w123 bible ? or is there such a thing ? Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 92kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What tire size are people running with 15-inch rims, on the older cars?
i think i'm running 205/65 on my 15s, but don't know offhand On 6/9/06, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious... plan to put some 15 rims I have, onto my w126, and I'd like to try some 205/65-15 tires I have lying around here. IIRC, conventional wisdom has it that you should use 70-series, which is what I had with the 15 Mille Miglia rims on my w116 SD. TKS -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s Volvo: '87 245 (waiting for OM616 transplant) SAAB: '83 900T (waiting for a miracle) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Evap drain tube?
Someone please tell me how to get to the evap drain tube. Its leaking or missing. They're almost all the same, a tube (or two) that leads from the bottom of the heater box through the hump to the outside over the transmission. They can be rather difficult to replace. What I've found happens is that the tube degrades and cracks right where it attaches to the box, leaking onto the floor. Because they're so hard to replace properly, I have used weatherstrip cement and attached collars of bicycle inner tube to them to seal up the cracks. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
I am going to Replace the compressor, Dryer, under hood AC lines Easy-squeezy! and the expansion valve (bummer) in my 85 300SD. So sorry to be you! I was told to do this, The last time I had a gauge set on the AC system it had a lo side pressure of about 20 at idle and very low hi side. The high side would come up at about 3000 rpm the lo side would read vacuum 15- 20 inches or so. That is when I got the car. The ac would sort of function on n a day when you did not really need it. I have had the car for 2 years and don't turn on the Air I don't know yet if the compressor decided to mimic a fragmentation grenade yet. I was hoping to be lucky and just have a weak compressor. This could make the repair easer. When I get the system open what do I look for to determine if it is contaminated Maybe I could get lucky and not replace the expansion valve? George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket)
Re: [MBZ] times running out OK Don
It's yours -- I don't have a place to put it. On 6/9/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4646349169rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Cheap '78 300 CD in SE MA
Dwight, It's certainly worth checking out if you want a coupe. It could very well be like mine was and has tight valves. I took a chance on mine because it was only at the 200K mark. I don't think that I would have bought it with the same symptoms if it had double the mileage. Give it a look and see if it follows you home. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela
[MBZ] St. Louis CL 1990 'burb, needs head/gasket $500
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/169783601.html Someone wants/needs this.. No affiliation, Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 09 19:17:13 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FomTo-0002CR-Sf for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 19:17:13 + Received: from dogear.com (jimc.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.197] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k59JHnr2010186 for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:17:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:17:03 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:17:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 19:17:13 - I was told to do this, The last time I had a gauge set on the AC system it had a lo side pressure of about 20 at idle and very low hi side. The high side would come up at about 3000 rpm the lo side would read vacuum 15- 20 inches or so. Sounds like a classic restriction in the system. There's a filter screen inside the receiver/drier, and usually another one in the expansion valve. If the system gets plugged you'll get a very low pressure on the suction side (which could not happen with a 'weak' compressor), because there's no flow and it's sucking a vacuum. You will get very cold vent temperatures, but very little actual cooling. I had exactly this in the Ebola Fishtank, where vent temps hit 20 degrees and falling. It was a plugged screen in the expansion valve, all I did was remove and clean it. It's a very different experience when compared to the nightmare that is the valve in a 126! If you don't get 'normal' low-side pressures (in the 30 psi area) the high side pressure doesn't mean much. You need flow, and watching the sight glass can give you hints there. An undercharged system (or a normal charge for a hydrocarbon refrigerant) should have _very_ visible flow through the glass. If there's no flow then the pressures can lead you to why. High low-side with low high-side and no flow indicates bad valves in the compressor. Low low-side means that there is a restriction in the system. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
Maybe I could get lucky and not replace the expansion valve? If it's just plugged and there's not a hose full of crap coming out of the compressor (indicating that it was the source of pluggage), likely you don't need to replace it either. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
Jim Cathey wrote: I would expect the 126 w/turbodiesel to lose a drag race against 123s and 116s. But not the 603-equipped SDL's, of course! They really do scoot. But a 124 with a 603.96 engine is faster yet! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] What tire size are people running with 15-inch rims, on the older cars?
Steve MacSween wrote: Just curious... plan to put some 15 rims I have, onto my w126, and I'd like to try some 205/65-15 tires I have lying around here. IIRC, conventional wisdom has it that you should use 70-series, which is what I had with the 15 Mille Miglia rims on my w116 SD. The proper tire size IS 205/65x15. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
Maybe I could get lucky and not replace the expansion valve? If it's just plugged and there's not a hose full of crap coming out of the compressor (indicating that it was the source of pluggage), likely you don't need to replace it either. Now this is very obvious crap right ? ( can be easily identified ?) George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket)
Re: [MBZ] Salvage titles
Why do salvage titles scare people so much? How do insurance companies feel about insuring salvage vehicles? Any hands-on personal experience? And if you buy a car whose factory warranty had not expired, don't expect any warranty repairs no matter how trivial the reason for the salvage title. A friend of mine who runs a perfectionist's body shop (mostly Porsche with the occasional MB and BMW) bought a nearly new W220 S500 from a Texas auction that had a salvage title. It's only defect was that the Texas matron who owned it allowed the cowl drain to become plugged with leaves. Water got into the car and wet down the rear SAM. The local dealer who had the car in for repairs led the insurance adjustor to believe that the car was beyond economic repair, hoping to buy it cheap. My friend outbid him somehow and the car came to Seattle. All it needed was the rear SAM to get it going. Soon after it needed some sort of repair which would be covered by the factory warranty. Except that the car was now branded and therefore no warranty. Factory rep said no way. RLE
Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
Maybe I could get lucky and not replace the expansion valve? If it's just plugged and there's not a hose full of crap coming out of the compressor (indicating that it was the source of pluggage), likely you don't need to replace it either. And I should have been more clear that I'm talking about the compressor here. If it ain't broke don't fix it! There are really only two places where plugging can occur, ignoring physical damage to a line. The expansion valve, and the receiver/drier. These both feature screens and/or small orifices. If the drier's desiccant bag breaks it can travel downstream and plug up the expansion valve. Now this is very obvious crap right? (can be easily identified?) I should think so. I have personally never seen it, but the term 'black death' has been used a lot. -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
I would expect the 126 w/turbodiesel to lose a drag race against 123s and 116s. But not the 603-equipped SDL's, of course! They really do scoot. But a 124 with a 603.96 engine is faster yet! But is not a 116, 123, or 126. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
And I should have been more clear that I'm talking about the compressor here. If it ain't broke don't fix it! I have repaired non-broken things before. It's funny (many months after the fact) because it does usually wind up being broke after the repair. -- The reason that I thought that the compressor is bad is: At Idle the LO side is about 24 Psi ( or something, it matched a listing in a book) The HI side would not make 100 Psi (75 ?? don't remember). As the RPM is increased 3 to 4 K the HI side would jump up to over 200 Psi. The LO side would be 15 to 20 inches vacuum. The gauges seemed very responsive to RPM. Back off on the RPM, the HI side drops and LO side comes right back up. I will put a set of gauges on it this weekend and document the observations. What should I look for? This observation is from memory and most likely somewhat flakey. 20 years ago I worked on refrigeration in lab equipment however the compressors run at fixed RPM. Switched on and off for temp control. Now this is very obvious crap right? (can be easily identified?) I should think so. I have personally never seen it, but the term 'black death' has been used a lot. -- Jim But I don't what to go on the cart George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket)
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
I think the 123 Haynes paper manual is the closest-I got one from Rusty. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:08 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible] Where can I get the w123 bible ? or is there such a thing ? Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 92kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
And the ultimate would be a 124 coupe with OM603 w/Finnish mods.. Luther Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Cathey wrote: I would expect the 126 w/turbodiesel to lose a drag race against 123s and 116s. But not the 603-equipped SDL's, of course! They really do scoot. But a 124 with a 603.96 engine is faster yet! Marshall -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] Cheap '78 300 CD in SE MA
Yes, I need to call him back and get the mileage and the details of what he knows as to when it stopped starting, etc. Did yours run at all? My first thought was fuel. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin kraly Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap '78 300 CD in SE MA Dwight, It's certainly worth checking out if you want a coupe. It could very well be like mine was and has tight valves. I took a chance on mine because it was only at the 200K mark. I don't think that I would have bought it with the same symptoms if it had double the mileage. Give it a look and see if it follows you home. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
On Jun 9, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I think the 123 Haynes paper manual is the closest-I got one from Rusty. It's junk in comparison to the MB factory manuals. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
Luther Gulseth wrote: And the ultimate would be a 124 coupe with OM603 w/Finnish mods.. Not if you wanted the engine to last for 250-300kmi!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] 617.950 617.952 differences
And the ultimate would be a 124 coupe with OM603 w/Finnish mods.. You have to be absolutely nucking futs to get to the Finnish line... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible]
No argument there. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Berryman Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: The W124 Bible] On Jun 9, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I think the 123 Haynes paper manual is the closest-I got one from Rusty. It's junk in comparison to the MB factory manuals. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What tire size are people running with 15-inch rims, on the older cars?
on 6/9/06 3:21 PM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: Just curious... plan to put some 15 rims I have, onto my w126, and I'd like to try some 205/65-15 tires I have lying around here. IIRC, conventional wisdom has it that you should use 70-series, which is what I had with the 15 Mille Miglia rims on my w116 SD. The proper tire size IS 205/65x15. Marshall Thanks Marshall, I agree completely but for some reason the local MBz braintrust thinks they are too low-section. 205/65 it shall be. Mac
Re: [MBZ] DIY AC repair in modern times
The reason that I thought that the compressor is bad is: At Idle the LO side is about 24 Psi ( or something, it matched a listing in a book) The HI side would not make 100 Psi (75 ?? don't remember). Both pressures are low. Compressor _could_ cause this, but it sounds undercharged. As the RPM is increased 3 to 4 K the HI side would jump up to over 200 Psi. Still a bit low. I push 300 psi when charging with my test refrigerant on a hot day. But what I'm really doing is matching the _temperature_ scale on the R12 gauge to the temperature of the high-side fitting (while trying to keep it under 300 psi, while making sure the low-side hovers above freezing, engine at 2000 rpm). A dead compressor couldn't do this. The LO side would be 15 to 20 inches vacuum. Also too low. (Translation: the compressor is being too effective for current conditions.) Undercharged? Does not sound like a dead compressor to me. What should I look for? This is still R12? If the sight glass is frothy the system is definitely undercharged, and pressures _will_ be low. Are you _sure_ that there's anything more wrong than it's just undercharged? The systems (all of them) do leak a little, which is why R12 systems were built to hold an excess charge. Got them past the warrantee period before they stopped cooling. Most of our cars require charging annually now. But the test refrigerant is both cheap and benign. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] What tire size are people running with 15-inch rims, on the older cars?
Steve MacSween wrote: on 6/9/06 3:21 PM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: Just curious... plan to put some 15 rims I have, onto my w126, and I'd like to try some 205/65-15 tires I have lying around here. IIRC, conventional wisdom has it that you should use 70-series, which is what I had with the 15 Mille Miglia rims on my w116 SD. The proper tire size IS 205/65x15. Marshall Thanks Marshall, I agree completely but for some reason the local MBz braintrust thinks they are too low-section. 205/65 it shall be. Mac Depend on the year of the car. 126s made from '81-'85 used 14 wheels and 70 series tires. From '86 thru '91 126 used 15 wheels and 65 series tires. If you're using 15 wheels on an earlier 126, go with the 65 series tires! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Salvage titles
Salvage titles mean just that salvage. One would always check out the car with great care. In an attempt to look at from the point of view of the manufacture (warranty provider) a car that has been declared a total loss by the insurer would be hi risk of all kinds of scams and abuse. Older cars with salvage titles in my experience has less effect on the cars desirability. George Larribeau Dallas Texas Why do salvage titles scare people so much? How do insurance companies feel about insuring salvage vehicles? Any hands-on personal experience? And if you buy a car whose factory warranty had not expired, don't expect any warranty repairs no matter how trivial the reason for the salvage title. A friend of mine who runs a perfectionist's body shop (mostly Porsche with the occasional MB and BMW) bought a nearly new W220 S500 from a Texas auction that had a salvage title. It's only defect was that the Texas matron who owned it allowed the cowl drain to become plugged with leaves. Water got into the car and wet down the rear SAM. The local dealer who had the car in for repairs led the insurance adjustor to believe that the car was beyond economic repair, hoping to buy it cheap. My friend outbid him somehow and the car came to Seattle. All it needed was the rear SAM to get it going. Soon after it needed some sort of repair which would be covered by the factory warranty. Except that the car was now branded and therefore no warranty. Factory rep said no way. RLE
