[MBZ] 73 280SE at Arlington TX charity auction
http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=14623vType=1 ear:1973 Make: Mercedes Benz Model: 280SEl Color: Maroon VIN:108067122015244 Location: Arlington Radio: Car Complete: Start: Tires Good: Battery: Spare Tire: Door Key: Trunk Key: Ignition Key:
Re: [MBZ] W124 - Chain Tensioner
In a message dated 6/29/2006 8:51:50 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On my E300D (606.91x motor) the chain tensioner leaks slightly. It's the only spot on the motor that is wet from oil. I suspect that the aluminum seal at the end cap (not the seal between the unit and the engine) is to blame. But than it says to replace the complete unit, don't disassemble (~ $100). Has anyone experiences with this? TIA Hans, On my 617 diesel, when you remove the cap, a stiff spring pushes out. Not insurmountable, and I don't see why you can't remove yours and replace the sealing washer, or just add a little thread sealant to the existing washer. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 142 K miles
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
Marshall: So it appears the duration of fuel injection is either 39 or 40 degrees of crank rotation, depending upon engine vintage. This duration is mechanically fixed by the way the FI pump internals are machined. And the various methods of setting the injection timing adjust either the start or end of injection. Do I understand correctly? Thanks, Ned Kleinhenz
Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices
Page no longer available. Mike - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices Mike Canfield wrote: OK I have seen a Reese hitch mounted, gasoline powered blender..Works well. Something like this? http://www.cabelas.com/products/Cpod0005934.jsp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices
Mike Canfield wrote: Page no longer available. Weird. It works for me. It's a TailGator 2-stroke gasoline-powered blender. It has a 2.5 horsepower 2-stroke engine.
Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices
My PC is like that sometimes.Yeah that's the one. Didn't remember the name. Mike - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Portable Start Devices Mike Canfield wrote: Page no longer available. Weird. It works for me. It's a TailGator 2-stroke gasoline-powered blender. It has a 2.5 horsepower 2-stroke engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hylomar HPF
I used it in the old days when it was known as Rolls Royce Joint Compound, it's still available https://host.globalsecureserver.com/x1r.com/store/customer/product.php?produ ctid=16212cat=283 Have to open your wallet but it will last a long time. If I recall shelf life was years. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Larribeau Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hylomar HPF It looks like Permatex discontinued it sometime back as there is no reference to it on their website Bummer - Bummer - Bummer This is my staple sealer however I thought the it was just marketed by permatex, I always thought it was some Euro stuff. Learned about it from a Porsche Mechanic about 20 years ago .. I hope it does not disappear ..It works so well on air cooled motorcycles - Bummer - Bummer - Bummer George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006
[MBZ] weight of a 603
How much does a 603 weigh? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
Original Message Subject: I give up on Mobil-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:42:40 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] While running errands today I stopped in a 2 Wallmarts and 2 Advance Auto stores and NONE of them had ANY Mobil-1 0W-40, 15W-50 OR 5W-40. As much as I know you guys out there like Mobil-1, it just is not worth my effort any more. So I go over to the Amsoil site and see a selection of synthetics to choose from. Given my current mood, I'm inclined to buy a 30 gallon jug and be done with it and let Mobil rot in hell where they belong. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? Thanks -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
KMart house brand dino is rumored to be pretty good. [sic] Ok, who on here is the Embryo-sol dealer? Might be able to get some mail order business. On 6/29/06, Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: I give up on Mobil-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:42:40 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] While running errands today I stopped in a 2 Wallmarts and 2 Advance Auto stores and NONE of them had ANY Mobil-1 0W-40, 15W-50 OR 5W-40. As much as I know you guys out there like Mobil-1, it just is not worth my effort any more. So I go over to the Amsoil site and see a selection of synthetics to choose from. Given my current mood, I'm inclined to buy a 30 gallon jug and be done with it and let Mobil rot in hell where they belong. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? Thanks -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] Chicago politics
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Re: [MBZ] www.mbpumps.com
no Marshall Booth wrote: Anybody have any dealings with these guys?? http://www.mbpumps.com/ Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
you cant use the drip method on the 60x engines Peter Frederick wrote: The drip method on a 603 pump will require the normal 24 BTDC -- the RIV uses a hall effect pickup, and the bump is in the correct place at 15 ATDC due design constraints. peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
what about walmart house brand? LT Don wrote: KMart house brand dino is rumored to be pretty good. [sic] Ok, who on here is the Embryo-sol dealer? Might be able to get some mail order business. On 6/29/06, Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: I give up on Mobil-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:42:40 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] While running errands today I stopped in a 2 Wallmarts and 2 Advance Auto stores and NONE of them had ANY Mobil-1 0W-40, 15W-50 OR 5W-40. As much as I know you guys out there like Mobil-1, it just is not worth my effort any more. So I go over to the Amsoil site and see a selection of synthetics to choose from. Given my current mood, I'm inclined to buy a 30 gallon jug and be done with it and let Mobil rot in hell where they belong. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? Thanks -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
I thought the WalMart house brand was a wine -- isn't the name Chateau de TrailerTrash? On 6/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about walmart house brand? -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] Home-made Generators
Someone wrote: Hmmm, how about sticking an old alternator in a box with the chain saw motor hooked to it, fairly light and cheap portable 12v power? Maybe a small battery thrown on there for storage and load leveling, an inverter for light 110v. I guess it would need to be grounded or something, and it would be a bit weighty, but still, that would be kinda fun. I might have to try that to run the 12v 'rita blender at the beach. Or I could just hook a weedwhacker motor to an old blender. Or Too many projects! --- WHen I was a lad, my best friend and I wanted to light the pond near his house so we could have night skating parties. We took an old wooden wheelbarrow frame, decked it over with bits and ends of leftover oak TG flooring, bolted an ancient BS 1-hp, horizontal-shaft reel mower engine to it, the kind you had to wind the starter cord manually every time you pulled it, along with an old 6v automotive generator we found lying around. Wired it up to charge a 6v car battery, also mounted to the contraption, thence to a couple of 6v headlamps, which we mounted in tree branches on opposite sides of the small pond. We'd wheel the thing out there through the snow, park it behind a big snowbank for noise attenuation, start the motor, adjust the throttle to center the needle of ammeter we'd also scrounged from somewhere when both lights were on, and would skate with a passel of youth till the wee hours with light glinting off skate blades and pond ice, and the bare limbs of trees casting scrim-like shadows over all. It was magical. And the barely audible putt-putt-putt of the engine, throttled down just about as low as it would idle, somehow added to the low-tech wonder of it all. I bet there wasn't a post-WWII piece of hardware involved in the whole setup. This was in the early seventies. We were surprised at how little power and speed the generator required to keep up with the headlamps. It served us well for several seasons until we grew up and left it behind. Dan -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
No, sorry. The start of injection is always 24 or 26 degrees before TDC -- that is when the rising plunger covers the fill slot in the sleeve and pressure starts building. The nub on the governor shaft arm for the RIV system goes past the center of the hole at 15 degrees ATDC. I do not know why Bosch chose to set it this way, but I suspect it has something to do with internal geometry that was already designed and it was not worth the engineering effort to change (I believe the nub is on part of the governor assembly that was pre-existing). The location of the hole was determined by the presence of the fuel gallery, the governor and linage, and the presence of the engine block on one side -- pretty much limited to the outside of the rear of the pump. Difficult (or maybe impossible) to get that hall effect nub to go past a coil in any other position. In other words, the hall effect pickup triggers at 15 degrees ATDC when the plunger covers the fill slot at 24 degrees BTDC. Peter
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
Duration is related to fuel delivery -- the more fuel to be delivered, the farther the sleeve is rotated, and the farther the plunger has to rise before the vent slot in the plunger opens to the end of delivery (spiral) groove in the sleeve. VERY slick, as this longer duration injection also produces the lovely torque of our diesels. MB uses a centrifugal advance mechanism to move the start of injection earlier as the engine speeds up -- some diesel locomotive engines use unit injectors (driven by a cam for each cylinder instead of in a separate pump) that actually advance the injection timing with increasing fuel -- the fill slot is helical rather than the vent slot, so more fuel injected means earlier injection. Peter
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
You should look for Delvac 1 at truck stops (NOT Delo!). That is the commercial large truck Mobil synthetic oil, and it will work perfectly. Peter
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
Why not? Peter
Re: [MBZ] Home-made Generators
A freind at work made a similar rig - mounted on a mower deck, I think, that he takes on Scouting camp-outs. On 6/29/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHen I was a lad, my best friend and I wanted to light the pond near his house so we could have night skating parties. We took an old wooden wheelbarrow frame, decked it over with bits and ends of leftover oak TG flooring, bolted an ancient BS 1-hp, horizontal-shaft reel mower engine to it, the kind you had to wind the starter cord manually every time you pulled it, along with an old 6v automotive generator we found lying around. Wired it up to charge a 6v car battery, also mounted to the contraption, thence to a couple of 6v headlamps, which we mounted in tree branches on opposite sides of the small pond. We'd wheel the thing out there through the snow, park it behind a big snowbank for noise attenuation, start the motor, adjust the throttle to center the needle of ammeter we'd also scrounged from somewhere when both lights were on, and would skate with a passel of youth till the wee hours with light glinting off skate blades and pond ice, and the bare limbs of trees casting scrim-like shadows over all. It was magical. And the barely audible putt-putt-putt of the engine, throttled down just about as low as it would idle, somehow added to the low-tech wonder of it all. I bet there wasn't a post-WWII piece of hardware involved in the whole setup. This was in the early seventies. We were surprised at how little power and speed the generator required to keep up with the headlamps. It served us well for several seasons until we grew up and left it behind. Dan -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: you cant use the drip method on the 60x engines Actually you can as long as you can keep fuel going to the pump. If the tank of a sedan is full it WILL work. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
Striplin Admin account wrote: Original Message Subject: I give up on Mobil-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:42:40 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] While running errands today I stopped in a 2 Wallmarts and 2 Advance Auto stores and NONE of them had ANY Mobil-1 0W-40, 15W-50 OR 5W-40. As much as I know you guys out there like Mobil-1, it just is not worth my effort any more. So I go over to the Amsoil site and see a selection of synthetics to choose from. Given my current mood, I'm inclined to buy a 30 gallon jug and be done with it and let Mobil rot in hell where they belong. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? Mobil won't loose much. They supply all the base oil that Amsoil uses. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
[MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
Same here. Not even the Auto Stores have the M-1 Diesel oil. Next change Im going back to Delo 400, at least I know I can get it just about everywhere, especially Costco. M-1 is not worth the time and trouble for me and I just go back to 2000-3000 mile oil changes. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350
Re: [MBZ] Chicago politics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=21104 I'm sure some in the general aviation community would consider that poetic justice.
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
Walt, Down at the Southern end of your State Wally world is selling Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W-40 Diesel Oil for $8 a gallon - meets Mercedes 228.3 spec. I picked some up for my tractors if I can not get M1 15W-50 for the cars I'll probably just use this. Pass thru Seattle once or twice a week need to find time for that coffee we talked about some 2 - 3 years back. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W. Lasher Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:23 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1] Same here. Not even the Auto Stores have the M-1 Diesel oil. Next change I’m going back to Delo 400, at least I know I can get it just about everywhere, especially Costco. M-1 is not worth the time and trouble for me and I just go back to 2000-3000 mile oil changes. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
LT Don wondered: Ok, who on here is the Embryo-sol dealer? Might be able to get some mail order business. I think Johnny B sells it... Some guy at work has been pinging on me to start selling it... Bob Rentfro
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
Dave asked: Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? I think Johnny B is the guy to ask... Bob Rentfro
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
I suspect Mobil 1 products are available at the service stations that work on the 18 wheeler tractors - being close to I-95, there are 3 that I know of within a 20 mi area -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1] You should look for Delvac 1 at truck stops (NOT Delo!). That is the commercial large truck Mobil synthetic oil, and it will work perfectly. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
Thanks for the answers about injection duration. It saves me a lot of grief to have my misunderstanding corrected. Please excuse the dumb questions, but I'm just getting started with FI pump work. In a damper reading of 15 deg ATDC what is The Damper? Is that something on the FI pump? The only timing marks I'm familiar with are on the pulley at the front of the crank. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD
Re: [MBZ] I give up on Mobil-1
Dave, If I had somewhere to put the big jug of Amsoil I'd be into that too. My best luck lately has been with AutoZone. Most of the employees there are idiots but I hit it just right the other day and got a guy interesting in actually selling something who will ensure that if I call on Monday looking for Mobil 1 the amount I want will be there Friday afternoon after work. Based on Marshall's interpretation of my oil analysis results I won't have to actually try this out for 6 months or so. Hope the guy still works there then... -Curt Original Message Subject: I give up on Mobil-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:42:40 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] While running errands today I stopped in a 2 Wallmarts and 2 Advance Auto stores and NONE of them had ANY Mobil-1 0W-40, 15W-50 OR 5W-40. As much as I know you guys out there like Mobil-1, it just is not worth my effort any more. So I go over to the Amsoil site and see a selection of synthetics to choose from. Given my current mood, I'm inclined to buy a 30 gallon jug and be done with it and let Mobil rot in hell where they belong. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? Thanks -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 30 13:33:37 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FwJ7p-0005Qr-IU for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:33:37 + Received: from dogear.com (jimc.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.197] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k5UDYC4V012146 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:34:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:33:33 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:34:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:33:37 - In a damper reading of 15 deg ATDC what is The Damper? ... The only timing marks I'm familiar with are on the pulley at the front of the crank. That's it. They're on the (vibration) damper, also called a harmonic balancer. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Home-made Generators
Well thats just cheating, when I was in Scouts we used to have a propane lantern and a fire... Dad and I discussed building a similar contraption in the icestorm of '98 when we went 69 hours (no foolin) without power. Then we both simultaniously looked out the window, looked back at each other, then got up and went to take naps. Thank goodness for the coal stove and gas stove. -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:07:06 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Home-made Generators To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A freind at work made a similar rig - mounted on a mower deck, I think, that he takes on Scouting camp-outs. - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 30 14:12:26 2006 Received: from wmail-0.airmail.net ([209.196.70.87]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FwJjO-AF-6B for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:12:26 + Received: from [64.0.172.2] (helo=Verity0531) by wmail-0.airmail.net with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1FwJjE-000GdS-GI for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:12:16 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:12:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hylomar HPF X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:12:27 - I used it in the old days when it was known as Rolls Royce Joint Compound, it's still available https://host.globalsecureserver.com/x1r.com/store/customer/product.php?produ ctid=16212cat=283 Have to open your wallet but it will last a long time. If I recall shelf life was years. Dennis T http://www.hylomar-usa.com/ Well that is what I remember the first tube I ever saw came in a box like that in about 1980 when I was in San Francisco. I guess I was wondering how /if Permatex was marketing, making it under license or just making it. I emailed Permatex and got the following: George LarribeauHylomar was discontinued from the Permatex line at the end of last year. Permatex offers other gasket dressings that might work for your application. You can call the Permatex Tech Center 877-376-2839 and speak to one of our technicians. If you give them more information they will be able to help you select a product for your application. Dobruck Marketing Communications Well I believe I know in the Dilbert world I know which department that answer came from. It was very convenient to go to the local auto parts store and purchase it. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket)
Re: [MBZ] Home-made Generators
It served us well for several seasons until we grew up and left it behind. I think I see the problem -- that growing up part. I am agressively working hard to postpone that part of my existence as long as possible. --R Dan Weeks wrote: Someone wrote: Hmmm, how about sticking an old alternator in a box with the chain saw motor hooked to it, fairly light and cheap portable 12v power? Maybe a small battery thrown on there for storage and load leveling, an inverter for light 110v. I guess it would need to be grounded or something, and it would be a bit weighty, but still, that would be kinda fun. I might have to try that to run the 12v 'rita blender at the beach. Or I could just hook a weedwhacker motor to an old blender. Or Too many projects! --- WHen I was a lad, my best friend and I wanted to light the pond near his house so we could have night skating parties. We took an old wooden wheelbarrow frame, decked it over with bits and ends of leftover oak TG flooring, bolted an ancient BS 1-hp, horizontal-shaft reel mower engine to it, the kind you had to wind the starter cord manually every time you pulled it, along with an old 6v automotive generator we found lying around. Wired it up to charge a 6v car battery, also mounted to the contraption, thence to a couple of 6v headlamps, which we mounted in tree branches on opposite sides of the small pond. We'd wheel the thing out there through the snow, park it behind a big snowbank for noise attenuation, start the motor, adjust the throttle to center the needle of ammeter we'd also scrounged from somewhere when both lights were on, and would skate with a passel of youth till the wee hours with light glinting off skate blades and pond ice, and the bare limbs of trees casting scrim-like shadows over all. It was magical. And the barely audible putt-putt-putt of the engine, throttled down just about as low as it would idle, somehow added to the low-tech wonder of it all. I bet there wasn't a post-WWII piece of hardware involved in the whole setup. This was in the early seventies. We were surprised at how little power and speed the generator required to keep up with the headlamps. It served us well for several seasons until we grew up and left it behind. Dan
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1]
The WM brand seems very thin. I wouldn't run any of thier 5 grade. Have seen a couple motors with spun bearings during a race.I presume due to the oil foaming(very high RPM) and losing viscosity. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I give up on Mobil-1] what about walmart house brand? LT Don wrote: KMart house brand dino is rumored to be pretty good. [sic] Ok, who on here is the Embryo-sol dealer? Might be able to get some mail order business. On 6/29/06, Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: I give up on Mobil-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:42:40 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] While running errands today I stopped in a 2 Wallmarts and 2 Advance Auto stores and NONE of them had ANY Mobil-1 0W-40, 15W-50 OR 5W-40. As much as I know you guys out there like Mobil-1, it just is not worth my effort any more. So I go over to the Amsoil site and see a selection of synthetics to choose from. Given my current mood, I'm inclined to buy a 30 gallon jug and be done with it and let Mobil rot in hell where they belong. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? Thanks -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Home-made Generators
Nice Dan. Probably would still be working today. Mike - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: [MBZ] Home-made Generators Someone wrote: Hmmm, how about sticking an old alternator in a box with the chain saw motor hooked to it, fairly light and cheap portable 12v power? Maybe a small battery thrown on there for storage and load leveling, an inverter for light 110v. I guess it would need to be grounded or something, and it would be a bit weighty, but still, that would be kinda fun. I might have to try that to run the 12v 'rita blender at the beach. Or I could just hook a weedwhacker motor to an old blender. Or Too many projects! --- WHen I was a lad, my best friend and I wanted to light the pond near his house so we could have night skating parties. We took an old wooden wheelbarrow frame, decked it over with bits and ends of leftover oak TG flooring, bolted an ancient BS 1-hp, horizontal-shaft reel mower engine to it, the kind you had to wind the starter cord manually every time you pulled it, along with an old 6v automotive generator we found lying around. Wired it up to charge a 6v car battery, also mounted to the contraption, thence to a couple of 6v headlamps, which we mounted in tree branches on opposite sides of the small pond. We'd wheel the thing out there through the snow, park it behind a big snowbank for noise attenuation, start the motor, adjust the throttle to center the needle of ammeter we'd also scrounged from somewhere when both lights were on, and would skate with a passel of youth till the wee hours with light glinting off skate blades and pond ice, and the bare limbs of trees casting scrim-like shadows over all. It was magical. And the barely audible putt-putt-putt of the engine, throttled down just about as low as it would idle, somehow added to the low-tech wonder of it all. I bet there wasn't a post-WWII piece of hardware involved in the whole setup. This was in the early seventies. We were surprised at how little power and speed the generator required to keep up with the headlamps. It served us well for several seasons until we grew up and left it behind. Dan -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - generators again
This thing is ancient - probably 40's or 50's. No plate on it that I can see so I don't know what model it is. I am hoping to find a site that has photos or knowledgable folks who can tell by looking at a photo that I can provide. Thanks for the link to smokstak. It looks interesting. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - generators again I just picked up an old Onan Generator. Anyone have ideas on availability of information for something like this? Onan's still around, did you call them? I was able to get a (badly-faxed, as it turned out) schematic for my 1965 Kohler from the company. This site: www.smokstak.com has both Kohler and Onan generator activity on it, somewhere. -- Jim _
[MBZ] 107--450SL, 560SL
Listers, a woman I know, called me last night, and she has interest in a roadster. I am short on time here. Can somone give a brief overview on the roadsters, or where I can send her to research, meaning which years to look for, what to avoid, the major problems, etc., I know about the rubber parts, and prone to rust in the trunk areas. I thought I was on the SL list, but maybe not, and I cannot find the link for it. thanks in advance rhonald 1985 300D 290,000 miles black/palomino Washington, DC
Re: [MBZ] Hylomar HPF
Kind of looks like they lost license to manufacture , which begs the question, why??? Wonder if they've been watering down the soup? Robert George Larribeau wrote: I used it in the old days when it was known as Rolls Royce Joint Compound, it's still available https://host.globalsecureserver.com/x1r.com/store/customer/product.php?produ ctid=16212cat=283 Have to open your wallet but it will last a long time. If I recall shelf life was years. Dennis T http://www.hylomar-usa.com/ Well that is what I remember the first tube I ever saw came in a box like that in about 1980 when I was in San Francisco. I guess I was wondering how /if Permatex was marketing, making it under license or just making it. I emailed Permatex and got the following: George LarribeauHylomar was discontinued from the Permatex line at the end of last year. Permatex offers other gasket dressings that might work for your application. You can call the Permatex Tech Center 877-376-2839 and speak to one of our technicians. If you give them more information they will be able to help you select a product for your application. Dobruck Marketing Communications Well I believe I know in the Dilbert world I know which department that answer came from. It was very convenient to go to the local auto parts store and purchase it. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107--450SL, 560SL
Rhonald, Check out this .http://www.oursl.com/ Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ 1992 500E Big Bro' 1986 190E 2.3 16V Lil' Bro' On Jun 30, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Rhonald Angelo wrote: Listers, a woman I know, called me last night, and she has interest in a roadster. I am short on time here. Can somone give a brief overview on the roadsters, or where I can send her to research, meaning which years to look for, what to avoid, the major problems, etc., I know about the rubber parts, and prone to rust in the trunk areas. I thought I was on the SL list, but maybe not, and I cannot find the link for it. thanks in advance rhonald 1985 300D 290,000 miles black/palomino Washington, DC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure
According to 18-5031HA, the oil pressure relief valve is part of the oil pump, so if I end up dropping the pan I will check it. I do not want to have to drop the pan, though... so I'm going to first hook up a mechanical gauge to be absolutely sure it isn't a gauge issue. Then I will likely remove the oil to water head exchanger on the passenger side of the sump, which should give me a decent view of the oil pump and surrounding area. Thanks, J.B. Hebert At 08:33 AM 6/29/2006, you wrote: It was mentioned earlier, but be sure to check the oil pressure regulator, sometimes also called overpressure bypass. The springs can break or the valve become jamed in its bore. Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL On 6/29/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to hear it wasn;t one of the easy things (relatively) to fix that was suggested - hopefully the pump intake is only blocked and the main bearings are not damaged. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: J.B. Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure I tested the gauge and sender tonight. The gauge goes right to 3 when disconnected, and back to 0 when grounded, so it is fine. I removed the sender and made a fixture that allowed me to pressure test it. At 0 bar, it read about 7.3 ohms. At 15 PSI (around 1 bar) I got around 62 ohms. At 30 PSI, 111 ohms. At 45 PSI, I got 172 ohms. So the sender is a little low based on the manual (or maybe my gauge is off), but the sender is certainly responsive. So it looks like I'll be pulling the pan next... and I was depressed to see that it's a once piece pan, unlike my old OM617 with the 2 piece unit. That would have made it much easier. So I'll have to track down a gasket at the very least. I am now hoping that it's just a blocked pickup, but we'll see. Thanks, J.B. At 12:18 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote: On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was fine, so I continued on another minute or 2 and the light went out. A few miles later I noticed that my oil pressure had started to fall. When it dipped below .5 bar, I shut off the motor and coasted to the side of the road. The low oil light had not come back on again. I popped the hood and checked for leaks or any indication of a problem. I found no leaks, and the oil level was between min and max on the dipstick. I restarted the car and the oil pressure went to about 1.2 bar, but would not go higher as RPMs increased. After 10 seconds or so of running it started to drop again so I shut the motor off again. The vehicle has shown no signs of a failing oil pump or any other issues. It normally idles around 1.8 to 2 bar and pegs the needle quickly. There are no odd sounds, smells, or sights. Now, I changed the oil filter last night (Mann filter, just like always), which is the only thing I've done to the car recently. I have no idea if it's coincidence or not, but I plan on pulling the filter tonight to see if I can see anything wrong. Even if the filter was faulty and stopped oil flow, there is a filter bypass so I should not have seen the symptoms I'm seeing. It appears that the oil is not flowing back down to the sump quickly enough and the pump is sucking air. I'm having the vehicle towed home for further diagnosis, but welcome any suggestions. Thanks, J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] Collective Oil Wisdom, Pls...
I spoke w/Arizona Petroleum that is a local distributor of most brands of motor oil to see if they had any Mobil1. Very little and no 15W/50 was the answer. But, they do have Castrol Full Synthetic 5W/50 in ample supply. I was told Castrol Full Synthetic (Syntec?) is Mercedes-Benz approved... What's the collective opinion of this for my two cars... '86 190E 2.3 16V and '92 500E??? Cost is about $39 for 6 quart case. TIA, Chuck Phoenix, AZ
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure
I think there is also one in the filter housing so it can bypass if the filter plugs. Bob DuPuy On 6/30/06, J.B. Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to 18-5031HA, the oil pressure relief valve is part of the oil pump, so if I end up dropping the pan I will check it. I do not want to have to drop the pan, though... so I'm going to first hook up a mechanical gauge to be absolutely sure it isn't a gauge issue. Then I will likely remove the oil to water head exchanger on the passenger side of the sump, which should give me a decent view of the oil pump and surrounding area. Thanks, J.B. Hebert At 08:33 AM 6/29/2006, you wrote: It was mentioned earlier, but be sure to check the oil pressure regulator, sometimes also called overpressure bypass. The springs can break or the valve become jamed in its bore. Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL On 6/29/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to hear it wasn;t one of the easy things (relatively) to fix that was suggested - hopefully the pump intake is only blocked and the main bearings are not damaged. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: J.B. Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure I tested the gauge and sender tonight. The gauge goes right to 3 when disconnected, and back to 0 when grounded, so it is fine. I removed the sender and made a fixture that allowed me to pressure test it. At 0 bar, it read about 7.3 ohms. At 15 PSI (around 1 bar) I got around 62 ohms. At 30 PSI, 111 ohms. At 45 PSI, I got 172 ohms. So the sender is a little low based on the manual (or maybe my gauge is off), but the sender is certainly responsive. So it looks like I'll be pulling the pan next... and I was depressed to see that it's a once piece pan, unlike my old OM617 with the 2 piece unit. That would have made it much easier. So I'll have to track down a gasket at the very least. I am now hoping that it's just a blocked pickup, but we'll see. Thanks, J.B. At 12:18 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote: On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was fine, so I continued on another minute or 2 and the light went out. A few miles later I noticed that my oil pressure had started to fall. When it dipped below .5 bar, I shut off the motor and coasted to the side of the road. The low oil light had not come back on again. I popped the hood and checked for leaks or any indication of a problem. I found no leaks, and the oil level was between min and max on the dipstick. I restarted the car and the oil pressure went to about 1.2 bar, but would not go higher as RPMs increased. After 10 seconds or so of running it started to drop again so I shut the motor off again. The vehicle has shown no signs of a failing oil pump or any other issues. It normally idles around 1.8 to 2 bar and pegs the needle quickly. There are no odd sounds, smells, or sights. Now, I changed the oil filter last night (Mann filter, just like always), which is the only thing I've done to the car recently. I have no idea if it's coincidence or not, but I plan on pulling the filter tonight to see if I can see anything wrong. Even if the filter was faulty and stopped oil flow, there is a filter bypass so I should not have seen the symptoms I'm seeing. It appears that the oil is not flowing back down to the sump quickly enough and the pump is sucking air. I'm having the vehicle towed home for further diagnosis, but welcome any suggestions. Thanks, J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date:
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure
Hey, does your tractor have a 3 point hitch? IIRC, Farmall was a bit late to climb on board with Harry Ferguson's universal hitch set up. [former owner of a '44 Ford 2N w/3 point hitch and a sludgy oil sump] On 6/28/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clogged pickup screens are pretty common on old tractors that had been run for years with non-detergent oil, any dirt or crud that got into the engine settled into the oil pan. Common practice when switching to detergent oil is to drop the pan and scrape the crud out. Guess what I need to do on my tractor this fall? -Curt '52 Farmall Super M Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Collective Oil Wisdom, Pls...
Since I'm on digest Marshall has undoubtably already posted the Syntec is a group III oil and not to be trusted for extended change durations. I'd just like to note that I paid $38 for a 6 bottle case of Mobil 1 15w50 at AutoZone... I didn't get a price on Syntec but its usually more like $4qt. -Curt Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:13:48 -0700 From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Collective Oil Wisdom, Pls... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I spoke w/Arizona Petroleum that is a local distributor of most brands of motor oil to see if they had any Mobil1. Very little and no 15W/50 was the answer. But, they do have Castrol Full Synthetic 5W/50 in ample supply. I was told Castrol Full Synthetic (Syntec?) is Mercedes-Benz approved... What's the collective opinion of this for my two cars... '86 190E 2.3 16V and '92 500E??? Cost is about $39 for 6 quart case. TIA, Chuck Phoenix, AZ - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 30 19:42:42 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FwOt0-0003be-9q for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:42:42 + Received: from dogear.com (dhcp-206-63-95-54.dialup.windwireless.net [206.63.95.54] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k5UJhF4V016867 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:43:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:42:37 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:42:43 - Hey, does your tractor have a 3 point hitch? IIRC, Farmall was a bit late to climb on board with Harry Ferguson's universal hitch set up. Having actually _used_ Farmall's 2-point fast-hitch system, I can't understand why anybody would ever want to use anything else. The fact that the 3-point won out is a little like WalMart winning, leaving no place else to do business. Yeah, it'll get the job done, but it makes you want to wash your hands afterwards. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 107--450SL, 560SL
roadsters, or where I can send her to research, meaning which years to look for, what to avoid, the major problems, etc., I know about the rubber parts, and prone to rust in the trunk areas. You're mostly there with that list. Rust in the rockers is an issue, just like all the other similar design era cars (115, 116). The years that come with the Evil Chrysler ACC From Hell are IIRC 77-80, so beware of them as they may easily need a kilobuck repair/upgrade to the servo system (and its amplifier). The early 380's have a single-row timing chain that needs to be kept on top of. Doesn't play well with others applies to the pistons (vs valves). Many have been converted to 2-row chains, but many probably have not. Soft top condition is a big expense if it's unsatisfactory to you. That's most of the ones I can think of off hand, the rest is pretty much normal MB. Pre-76 is D-Jet, which offers extra parts to go wrong, worse mileage, and fire risk if you let the rubber bits underhood go. Pre-76 is also, IIRC, manual valve adjustments. The earliest models are 350 SL, the Euros actually had a 3.5l (and there's also a 2.8l Euro) that scooted, US got anemic smogged 4.5l motors with the 'wrong' badge. 560SL is nice, but eats premium. Some Euro 500SL's around, dunno much about them. Euro bumper and light package many people find particularly attractive, though the anemic US headlight package can be upgraded to truly awesome high-beam performance. (We did ours.) 75-76 450 SL's have underhood catastrophic converters, which help to cook the underhood bits. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 107--450SL, 560SL
Suggest she have a PPI done make sure she does some comparision shopping to be sure the deal she thinks she's found is really a deal not a misconception on her part about what a W107 costs on the open market. Some people see a 78 240D and think it's a $80K car - a co-worker made that comment even though he was fairly intelligent but misinformed. Women for some reason seem to fall in love with W107s and have a mental picture of what they cost - make sure she';s not making decisions based on that mental picture. Also, make sure she takes it for an extended test drive - it must be driven far enough to get all the fluids to operating temp - and then the true nature of the way the tranny shifts, the oil pressure drop, etc. Also, the earlier the car the worse it handles IMO. And she must understand the cost of maintanence by talking to a shop that *knows* those cars. Fixing things is one thing - doing oil changes, brake fluid flushes, etc must all be part of the decision. Also - rust must be thoroughly searched for - once it gets a hold in the rockers it's very expensive to stop - and sometimes hard to find unless you get down and look *under* the car - something a woman in nice clothes is unlikely to do - so she needs help. Also, the engine is vvery reliable - but if not getting proper preventative maintanence things like cams can become round instead of egg shapes. The passenger side cam and cam bearings seem to go 1st. I got out of the gas engined MBs because the cost or regular car was more than I cared to spend - a good diesel is a complete opposite. But she probably is infatuated with the 107 and the logic of diesel ownership would be lost on her. ;-) Good luck - I hope you and her stay friends. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Rhonald Angelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: [MBZ] 107--450SL, 560SL Listers, a woman I know, called me last night, and she has interest in a roadster. I am short on time here. Can somone give a brief overview on the roadsters, or where I can send her to research, meaning which years to look for, what to avoid, the major problems, etc., I know about the rubber parts, and prone to rust in the trunk areas. I thought I was on the SL list, but maybe not, and I cannot find the link for it. thanks in advance rhonald 1985 300D 290,000 miles black/palomino Washington, DC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I give up on Mobil-1
I sent a note to Mobil/Exxon about poor availabilty of their oils - this was their reply: Thank you for your inquiry, You can contact Mobil at 1-800-662-4525 option1 and we can locate Mobil Distributor's for you. Mobil hates to see consumer's switch over to other brands due to product availability. You can also check with Autozones, Pep Boys, CSK stores, O'Reilley's and online at www.avlube.com. -- Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products. If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at 1-800-ASK-MOBIL Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I give up on Mobil-1 Dave, If I had somewhere to put the big jug of Amsoil I'd be into that too. My best luck lately has been with AutoZone. Most of the employees there are idiots but I hit it just right the other day and got a guy interesting in actually selling something who will ensure that if I call on Monday looking for Mobil 1 the amount I want will be there Friday afternoon after work. Based on Marshall's interpretation of my oil analysis results I won't have to actually try this out for 6 months or so. Hope the guy still works there then... -Curt Original Message Subject: I give up on Mobil-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:42:40 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] While running errands today I stopped in a 2 Wallmarts and 2 Advance Auto stores and NONE of them had ANY Mobil-1 0W-40, 15W-50 OR 5W-40. As much as I know you guys out there like Mobil-1, it just is not worth my effort any more. So I go over to the Amsoil site and see a selection of synthetics to choose from. Given my current mood, I'm inclined to buy a 30 gallon jug and be done with it and let Mobil rot in hell where they belong. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Amsoil is best? Thanks -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This looks like a cool car. Ebay item # 150003591951
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Mercedes-Benz-220S-NBC-STUDIO-CAR-Re tractable-Roof_W0QQitemZ150003591951QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 128K
Re: [MBZ] This looks like a cool car. Ebay item # 150003591951
Looks nice, but has a 1979 Mercury engine...! What a sacrilege...! Just my opinion.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 30, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Donald Snook wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Mercedes-Benz-220S-NBC-STUDIO- CAR-Re tractable- Roof_W0QQitemZ150003591951QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 128K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
Crankshaft harmonic balancer, where the scale is. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Collective Oil Wisdom, Pls...
Synthetic is always better than dino. Probably similar, if not identical, base oil, as there aren't that many who make it. If it's CI-4 rated, you are in good shape. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Collective Oil Wisdom, Pls...
Curt Raymond wrote: Since I'm on digest Marshall has undoubtably already posted the Syntec is a group III oil and not to be trusted for extended change durations. I'd just like to note that I paid $38 for a 6 bottle case of Mobil 1 15w50 at AutoZone... I didn't get a price on Syntec but its usually more like $4qt. I used Syntec for more than a year. It needed to be changed at 3kmi intervals as the VIs broke down creating sludge and lubricity dropped, FAR inferior to Mobil 1. Under the same operating conditions Mobil 1 is still fine after 10kmi. You can do as you like. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
