Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks`
That is because you are a mechanical God who can make a car out of spare microwave sheet metal. I am simple and can not figure out how to make that quartz fit the hole in Gump. It is a wonder I even procreated. On Dec 30, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I tried to install a quartz in Gump, but the pin out for posts was wrong. Que? Both of my 114/115's are now sporting quartz clocks, and didn't come that way. -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] geoduck
Geoducks are quite tasty (especially in chowdah), but other NW bivalves are even better, such as the Razor Clam, Butter Clam and Olympia Oyster...oh, and the Dungeness Crab kicks crustacean butt, too! On 12/31/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thought geoducks were inedible.. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
ernest breakfield wrote: interesting; i see Redline lists their ATF for MBZ autos, but although MTL is recommended for *some* manuals which call for ATF, i didn't find any mention of Type A compatibility... http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/3.pdf http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/6.pdf http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=8 'twould be interesting to know exactly what the requirements are that make MBZ spec an ATF for their old manny trannys. It relates to the properties of the synchros. Here's is an explanation of what Mercedes requires and why by Dr Eric Chowanietz that appeared on another list about 8 years ago. > In response to THE query on a spec. for MB 'Sheet 236.2' manual transmission fluid here is a summary of the Technical Data Sheet I have for 236.2 oil - supplied by Elf Oil Co. of France. Elf Trans-O-Matic - Mercedes-Benz 236.2/236.5 and Voith DIWA transmissions 502-2/502-3 specification. TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS Relative Density @ 15.6C0.879 Kinematic Viscosity @ 40C 36.5 mm2/s Kinematic Viscosity @ 100C 7.1 mm2/s Viscosity Index 160 Pour point -40C Flash point 200C "Applications: automatic transmissions, torque converters, power steering systems, manual gearboxes and other applications for which a fluid Type A Suffix A or Mercedes-Benz 236.2/236.5 is specified." -- Basically, M-B 236.2 is an old-style auto transmission fluid without the friction modifiers found in Dexron II/III. I tried Castrol Dexron III in my 190E five-speed, but in the winter, with a cold 'box, I got some 'snagging' when changing up 1-2 and 2-3. I had a discussion with Castrol technical dept. over this and they said its not so much the viscosity of the oil that is important, but the friction modifiers. Basically, D-III is a bit too 'slippery' for the syncro's on the MB manual 'box and so they take longer to lock up than was the designer's intention. They advised using either Castrol TQ Type A Suffix A or Elf. Since I changed to the Elf fluid the cold change quality is better. No damage will be done to the 'box by using D-III since the D-III specification takes in the Type A Suffix A fluid and it is an alternative specified by Mercedes-Benz - but the 'box won't function quite as the designer intended. The D-III probably has better anti-wear properties than 236.2, but then again your're catching the synchro. dogs every now and then so maybe it evens out? The reason that you should never use an ordinary EP oil in these manual gearboxes is that EP oils use phosphorus-based anti-wear additives (giving the distinctive 'EP' smell). The phosphorus additives make the oil acidic and quite chemically aggressive to the synchro. materials that MB use. ATF-type oils, on the other hand, use zinc-based anti-wear additives which are far more chemically inert toward non-ferrous metals (I have the full chemical formulae, should anyone be interested!) For my 190E the M-B recommended change interval for the manual gearbox fluid is 12 months or 12000 miles. Incidentally, the spec. for MB sheet 236.3 (the 'special' power steering oil) is very very similar to 236.2 (the viscosity is just a little less, if memory serves me). The MB steering oil is made by Elf and I have the Elf part number for it somewhere - I believe its a lot cheaper than the MB-packaged version. I just used the 236.2 oil - should be OK unless you live in a cold climate area (which I don't). My local Elf distributor wasn't keen to order just a small amount of the PS oil - he doesn't get much demand for it. Mobil 1 ATF works better than anything I've ever tried (and I have tried Redine MTL). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
John, Follow the creed on this list and switch to Mobil 1 ATF. I did in my 240D 3 years ago and it made a difference in shifting-esp. cold. FWIW-not another M1 oil thread. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 1979 240D 1990 300D 2.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ATF Type A?? Hello list, I am having trouble finding Type A automatic transmission fluid for my 83 240D 4-speed manual transmission. What should I get and where do I get it? Thank you and Happy New Year to all. John Ingram 83 240D 240K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
Yeah, that is the one. He told me $600 too, which sounds to good to be true, especially since he sent me some photos in which it looks really straight and clean---I am really curious! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 12/31/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it GOLD? If so, I know the one you're talking about. He'll take $600 for it, not bad for a 300Dt if it's electrical. The chances are pretty good. Good luck! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula, doing very well ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
interesting; i see Redline lists their ATF for MBZ autos, but although MTL is recommended for *some* manuals which call for ATF, i didn't find any mention of Type A compatibility... http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/3.pdf http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/6.pdf http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=8 'twould be interesting to know exactly what the requirements are that make MBZ spec an ATF for their old manny trannys. cheers! e Marshall Booth wrote: RedLine MTL is NOT appropriate for a Mercedes manual transmission. The Mercedes transmission is designed to use ATF not MTF! Most gear oils formulated for manual transmissions will damage the synchros. The best fluid I've found has been Mobil 1 ATF. There are some people that use Mobil 1 10W30 motor oil (it will damage nothing). Marshall
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
ernest breakfield wrote: if you don't find that, could i suggest you consider checking to see if Redline MTL might be suitable for that application? i've put it in a number of trannys where's it's made a world of difference in shifting ease,... RedLine MTL is NOT appropriate for a Mercedes manual transmission. The Mercedes transmission is designed to use ATF not MTF! Most gear oils formulated for manual transmissions will damage the synchros. The best fluid I've found has been Mobil 1 ATF. There are some people that use Mobil 1 10W30 motor oil (it will damage nothing). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
John - I think you're caught up in an industry change of nomenclature. Back in the "old days", Ford (predominantly) used what is known as Type F for the frictional qualities required in their trannys, while almost everyone else used Type A. Type F is almost unknown now-a-days, so you can be pretty sure that whatever Auto Trans fluid you find out there is either Type A, or backward compatible with it. The exception is a much more recent specific M-B transmission that had its own peculiar oil, but that certainly did not apply to the '80s and most of the 90s. Also, I would think that for a manual transmission, you would gain some benefit by using a light "weight" synthetic, such as 0W-40 Mobil1 - but that's just my preference. Dr. Marshall will no doubt have the specifics to corroborate this. Werner (who uses Mobil1 synthetic in his '83 and '90 auto transmissions) '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] ATF Type A?? Hello list, I am having trouble finding Type A automatic transmission fluid for my 83 240D 4-speed manual transmission. What should I get and where do I get it? Thank you and Happy New Year to all. John Ingram 83 240D 240K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
if you don't find that, could i suggest you consider checking to see if Redline MTL might be suitable for that application? i've put it in a number of trannys where's it's made a world of difference in shifting ease,... cheers! e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I am having trouble finding Type A automatic transmission fluid for my 83 240D 4-speed manual transmission. What should I get and where do I get it? Thank you and Happy New Year to all. John Ingram 83 240D 240K Baltimore
[MBZ] ATF Type A??
Hello list, I am having trouble finding Type A automatic transmission fluid for my 83 240D 4-speed manual transmission. What should I get and where do I get it? Thank you and Happy New Year to all. John Ingram 83 240D 240K Baltimore
Re: [MBZ] geoduck
yep; they're common in Asian restaurants. cheers! e John Robbins wrote: There's something edible about them... saw a "dirtiest jobs" episode where they harvested them. Don't remember what was edible (besides that I wouldn't eat it ;) but whatever it was went for high dollar... ernest breakfield wrote: depends on who's eating, i guess... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/HK_seafood_Elephant_Trunk_Clam.jpg/800px-HK_seafood_Elephant_Trunk_Clam.jpg cheers! e andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought geoducks were inedible.. [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] geoduck
There's something edible about them... saw a "dirtiest jobs" episode where they harvested them. Don't remember what was edible (besides that I wouldn't eat it ;) but whatever it was went for high dollar... ernest breakfield wrote: depends on who's eating, i guess... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/HK_seafood_Elephant_Trunk_Clam.jpg/800px-HK_seafood_Elephant_Trunk_Clam.jpg cheers! e andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought geoducks were inedible.. [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
ernest breakfield wrote: > > granted, but since the subject line stated "1984 300D", i thought that's > what we were talking about. If we restrict it to 123s I agree with you. AFAIK, all the turbos went to USA and the only manuals in the USA were in 240Ds.
Re: [MBZ] geoduck
depends on who's eating, i guess... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/HK_seafood_Elephant_Trunk_Clam.jpg/800px-HK_seafood_Elephant_Trunk_Clam.jpg cheers! e andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought geoducks were inedible.. [snip]
Re: [MBZ] license plate fun
That is PRICELESS, Chuck. Thanks for sharing. On 12/28/06, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here it is, for all the world and Andrew.. Returning from Gemutleicheit in '94?, on PA Turnpike, w/4 other Benzes... Went cough, sputter, sputter, die... (Didn't see reserve light) and created a 10-15 mile backup since breakdown lane was blocked by Jersey barriers. Tom, a 300SD buddy, went to Breezewood exit and returned down westbound, jumped median, put 2 gallons in, pumped primer, started car and I was outta' there. While this was going on, I ran back down breakdown lane and tried to get everyone to slow down. When asked, "what's wrong?", I replied "Some AH up there ran out of fuel!!!" Filled up at truck stop and semi driver looked down at me and said "You the GUY?"... Then, "Don't worry, you'll be replaced tomorrow" And that's the whole story Along with my trip into a tirewall at Summit Point, these stories will follow me forever Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ.. On Dec 27, 2006, at 6:37 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > You'll have to refresh my memory on that one, Chuck... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
granted, but since the subject line stated "1984 300D", i thought that's what we were talking about. (i know, that's a big assumption for this list,.. ;-) ) cheers! e Mitch Haley wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: i don't think turbos were ever offered from the factory on the manual cars; they didn't 'play' well together. I think you could get some of them in Europe, the W124 250D comes to mind. (the car MBUSA called 300D in 90-93) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crack
needs photos of the ENGINE compartment. On 12/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SDL-1987-300SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ170065347830QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
ernest breakfield wrote: > > i don't think turbos were ever offered from the factory on the manual > cars; they didn't 'play' well together. I think you could get some of them in Europe, the W124 250D comes to mind. (the car MBUSA called 300D in 90-93)
Re: [MBZ] geoduck
I thought geoducks were inedible.. On 12/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > < geoduck...which, incidentally is the the mascot for my alma mater.>> > Wishful thinking, I'd say. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
Yes-do that first before rapping he starter with a hammer. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 3:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first? Jiggle the shifter in N or P as you try to start it. On 12/30/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Listers, > > I'm going to take a look tomorrow at a cheap 123 300D---cheap because it > won't start. Seller says it ran fine for a while, now "doesn't make a > sound" when the key is turned, but the battery is good and the headlights > turn on. What do I check first? > > I seem to remember this being discussed before and an explanation being > given of how to bypass the ignition switch (maybe by jumping the starter > directly to the battery long enough to turn the engine over and get it > started?). I can't think what else could likely be wrong, given those > symptoms, other than the starter, ignition switch, or the wiring inbetween. > > Thanks, > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
Alex, Take a hammer along and rap on the solenoid & /or starter first before trying the remote starter. Worked on my 240D when it was dead in a parking garage in Boston. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first? Listers, I'm going to take a look tomorrow at a cheap 123 300D---cheap because it won't start. Seller says it ran fine for a while, now "doesn't make a sound" when the key is turned, but the battery is good and the headlights turn on. What do I check first? I seem to remember this being discussed before and an explanation being given of how to bypass the ignition switch (maybe by jumping the starter directly to the battery long enough to turn the engine over and get it started?). I can't think what else could likely be wrong, given those symptoms, other than the starter, ignition switch, or the wiring inbetween. Thanks, Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
i don't think turbos were ever offered from the factory on the manual cars; they didn't 'play' well together. cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: That would be sweet - a manny 300D - especially if it was turbo. Lust. Brian On 12/31/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Must've been snapped up fast by one of the bio freaks around here. ;) On 12/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: its been deleted kevin kraly wrote: I know that several list members are interested in manny tranny 300D's, so here's one I spotted on Craigslist. Anyone interested? http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/255018484.html It's right in Hillsboro, so I would be more than happy to go check it out. Heck, I'm hoping someone beats me to it so I'm not tempted to buy it! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
i don't think turbos were ever offered from the factory on the manual cars; they didn't 'play' well together. cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: That would be sweet - a manny 300D - especially if it was turbo. Lust. Brian On 12/31/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Must've been snapped up fast by one of the bio freaks around here. ;) On 12/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: its been deleted kevin kraly wrote: I know that several list members are interested in manny tranny 300D's, so here's one I spotted on Craigslist. Anyone interested? http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/255018484.html It's right in Hillsboro, so I would be more than happy to go check it out. Heck, I'm hoping someone beats me to it so I'm not tempted to buy it! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
i don't think turbos were ever offered from the factory on the manual cars; they didn't 'play' well together. cheers! e Zoltan Finks wrote: That would be sweet - a manny 300D - especially if it was turbo. Lust. Brian On 12/31/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Must've been snapped up fast by one of the bio freaks around here. ;) On 12/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: its been deleted kevin kraly wrote: I know that several list members are interested in manny tranny 300D's, so here's one I spotted on Craigslist. Anyone interested? http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/255018484.html It's right in Hillsboro, so I would be more than happy to go check it out. Heck, I'm hoping someone beats me to it so I'm not tempted to buy it! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year
GOLF.Gentleman only, Ladies forbiddenHence the foul language. Mike - Original Message - From: "Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN,foul language. Happy New Year Hans said... What is foul language? It's all relative. The Brits say " you bloody bas..." , we say " you f^&*ing bas...", and the Germans just say "Du Schweinehund". (My contribution for the last Saturday in 2006) Happy New Year to you all. Hans, the real problem is that most of those four letter words are HIGHLY TECHNICAL GOLFING terms that really have little applicability to an MB Diesel list Although I admit having used a few of them from time to time when working on the 300TD Happy New Year!!! Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 293K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year
Hans said... >What is foul language? It's all relative. The Brits say " you bloody bas..." >, we say " you f^&*ing bas...", and the Germans just say "Du Schweinehund". >(My contribution for the last Saturday in 2006) >Happy New Year to you all. Hans, the real problem is that most of those four letter words are HIGHLY TECHNICAL GOLFING terms that really have little applicability to an MB Diesel list Although I admit having used a few of them from time to time when working on the 300TD Happy New Year!!! Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 293K
Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year.
Werner said:> Excellent comment - it reminded me what my Dad told me years ago after I said a word that was inappropriate - I think I called my brother a name - and Dad said "people who use 4 letter words have poor vocabularies and are unable to properly express themselves" any other way. Sadly, foul language has become common place - from shopping malls to sporting events to school - unfortunately, if it is bothersome to you, you are probably better off staying away from those places. Of course, it's sad people with good manners are forced to avoid places because of a few (or a lot) of bad apples. Happy New Year -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year. Hans: "Foul" language is usually an indication that the user can't find a more accurate or descriptive term to describe the thought. But the best test would be that if it isn't something that would be acceptable when talking to children, or in polite company, then it probably is "foul". And there doesn't seem to be any M-B (or Diesel) content in such language, either. So Happy New Year to you and the net, too! Werner - Original Message - From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN,foul language. Happy New Year. What is foul language? It's all relative. The Brits say " you bloody bas..." , we say " you f^&*ing bas...", and the Germans just say "Du Schweinehund". (My contribution for the last Saturday in 2006) Happy New Year to you all. On 12/29/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tim: I still don't understand why you are using digest rather than GMail. No, no, no, ... please, not a new thread, just my comment. D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 12/29/2006
[MBZ] My 300SDL is being adopted
Having found no interest while selling my Benz, I have elected to keep it in the family and allow my Grandson to adopt it. He is 18 and not a gear head. He'll drive and maintain it as long as I assi$t, and instruct. A good thing, I will get to use it on long road trips, weddings and funerals. For all of the above I will continue to lurk here. Happy New Years.. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, On it's way 1987 300SDL 272KMI Going to Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
You should be able to turn the engine over with the power steering pump pulley nut - to determine whether it's frozen. If not, the neutral safety switch, starter, solenoid or ignition switch are suspect. Jumping from the small wire terminal on the solenoid to the big wire coming from the battery will crank it if the starter is OK. If that doesn't work, try banging the starter a couple of times, then trying the jumper trick again. A piece of 1x2 18" or so long and a hammer will help here. Ground connections to the chassis from the battery and engine are also possible points of failure. Good luck! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
Is it GOLD? If so, I know the one you're talking about. He'll take $600 for it, not bad for a 300Dt if it's electrical. The chances are pretty good. Good luck! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula, doing very well
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
That would be sweet - a manny 300D - especially if it was turbo. Lust. Brian On 12/31/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Must've been snapped up fast by one of the bio freaks around here. ;) On 12/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > its been deleted > > kevin kraly wrote: > > > I know that several list members are interested in manny tranny 300D's, > so > > here's one I spotted on Craigslist. > > > > Anyone interested? > > > > http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/255018484.html > > > > It's right in Hillsboro, so I would be more than happy to go check it > out. > > Heck, I'm hoping someone beats me to it so I'm not tempted to buy it! > > > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > > 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, > 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, > 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.striplin.net > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
Yes, I hope it's something like a neutral safety switch, or electrical. But when the 240D I had purchased, and not gotten to use many times yet, showed me the symptoms you describe, it was a siezed engine. People told me to look for a broken timing chain and perhaps something jamming up the camshaft or something like that. Also was told to look for something jammed into a drive belt pulley. In the end, in my situation, I think it was a blown head gasket? that had been left to sit long enough that rust took over in one or more cylinder? At any rate, there was an abundance of rust in the radiator. (I had bought the thing sight-unseen). Brian 83 240D On 12/31/06, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jiggle the shifter in N or P as you try to start it. On 12/30/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Listers, > > I'm going to take a look tomorrow at a cheap 123 300D---cheap because it > won't start. Seller says it ran fine for a while, now "doesn't make a > sound" when the key is turned, but the battery is good and the headlights > turn on. What do I check first? > > I seem to remember this being discussed before and an explanation being > given of how to bypass the ignition switch (maybe by jumping the starter > directly to the battery long enough to turn the engine over and get it > started?). I can't think what else could likely be wrong, given those > symptoms, other than the starter, ignition switch, or the wiring inbetween. > > Thanks, > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
Jiggle the shifter in N or P as you try to start it. On 12/30/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Listers, I'm going to take a look tomorrow at a cheap 123 300D---cheap because it won't start. Seller says it ran fine for a while, now "doesn't make a sound" when the key is turned, but the battery is good and the headlights turn on. What do I check first? I seem to remember this being discussed before and an explanation being given of how to bypass the ignition switch (maybe by jumping the starter directly to the battery long enough to turn the engine over and get it started?). I can't think what else could likely be wrong, given those symptoms, other than the starter, ignition switch, or the wiring inbetween. Thanks, Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
Listers, I'm going to take a look tomorrow at a cheap 123 300D---cheap because it won't start. Seller says it ran fine for a while, now "doesn't make a sound" when the key is turned, but the battery is good and the headlights turn on. What do I check first? I seem to remember this being discussed before and an explanation being given of how to bypass the ignition switch (maybe by jumping the starter directly to the battery long enough to turn the engine over and get it started?). I can't think what else could likely be wrong, given those symptoms, other than the starter, ignition switch, or the wiring inbetween. Thanks, Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
Must've been snapped up fast by one of the bio freaks around here. ;) On 12/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: its been deleted kevin kraly wrote: > I know that several list members are interested in manny tranny 300D's, so > here's one I spotted on Craigslist. > > Anyone interested? > > http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/255018484.html > > It's right in Hillsboro, so I would be more than happy to go check it out. > Heck, I'm hoping someone beats me to it so I'm not tempted to buy it! > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks`
Working on getting a working clock into my 115 and have come across two OE VDO clocks. My question is. One is a VDO Kienzle and the other is a VDO Quarz-Zeit. What is the difference between the two? Is one more of a mechanical (ticking) clock? Exactly. Other differences: the quartz clock is likely to still work, the mechanical one is not. The quartz one is a royal b**tard to open, the mechanical one opens easily. Also what would be an easy way to power them up for a test should I not have the car available to pop them into. Hook +12V to the spade lug hanging out the back, and ground to one of the mounting screws. Monitor for correct timekeeping. The quartz clock is unlike modern ones with a stepper motor in them, it's more akin to the old wall-powered synchronous motor clocks. Except in this case it's driven by AC sourced from a divided-down quartz oscillator. So it'll sound like a small motor quietly running. 'cause it is. Unless it doesn't. Then you don't want it. Unless you can get it open. Did I mention that's very difficult to do? You have to peel back the crimp on the front chromed bezel sufficiently far to get the bezel off, but not so far as to impede putting it back or screw it up cosmetically. I tried to install a quartz in Gump, but the pin out for posts was wrong. Que? Both of my 114/115's are now sporting quartz clocks, and didn't come that way. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D: heat off & on
I am not too sure why the heat comes off and on in the habitat. Once the car is started, the heat works fine. It is a bit later that the heat shuts off whether you are driving in town or on the highway; it will come back again after a while. Has anyone had that problem? Could it be the heater temp. sensor or? Any suggestions? Has anyone suggested the monovalve insert yet? (Just got back to 400 e-mails.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] two questions
Lister to her sing now: English version http://www.falling-in-love-again.com/marlene-en.htm well, parts of her voice sound like a male Bill Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It was 1998, and the singer was Marlene Dietrich Bill Gallagher wrote: I can recall the Ad very well, male deep rasper tone voice did the singing .. contact MB marketing/sales people at headquarters and they will most likely direct you to their ad agency who did the commercial Bill 1981 300 TD Sunil Hari wrote: 1) Anyone out there have a spare or extra cruise control amplifier that would work in a 92 300D? 2) Does anyone remember the Mercedes ad that had all the people in the ad singing "Falling in Love Again?" If so, can anyone out there forward me a copy of the ad or the location of it? Thanks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year.
Hans: "Foul" language is usually an indication that the user can't find a more accurate or descriptive term to describe the thought. But the best test would be that if it isn't something that would be acceptable when talking to children, or in polite company, then it probably is "foul". And there doesn't seem to be any M-B (or Diesel) content in such language, either. So Happy New Year to you and the net, too! Werner - Original Message - From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN,foul language. Happy New Year. What is foul language? It's all relative. The Brits say " you bloody bas..." , we say " you f^&*ing bas...", and the Germans just say "Du Schweinehund". (My contribution for the last Saturday in 2006) Happy New Year to you all. On 12/29/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tim: I still don't understand why you are using digest rather than GMail. No, no, no, ... please, not a new thread, just my comment. D
[MBZ] MBZ history?
I apologize if this has been cussed and discussed, but I've lost the bubble as to the sequence of events (and perhaps a bit of reasoning) behind how these "nets" have transfigured themselves. I am aware and dismayed about how the original technical (and leader's list) net that had more or less the blessings of MBCA were summarily closed in the "Saturday Night Massacre", and how Kathy Kennel (RIP) did her best to keep some civility in the succeeding mbz nets. But it appears that there are now a plethora of nets, that IMO have reduced the content we used to have - where a lot of technical issues arose daily, and usually 6 or more responses appeared almost within hours. So what historical events have I missed?? TIA Werner
Re: [MBZ] "Diesel" (was 123 Diesel problem)
Amen, Hans! But I suspect that the proper capitalization of the name will be lost on most people. Just like "coke", "Kleenex", "Zerox" have become synominous with a class of product, making the first letter of a person's name is beyond hope, it seems. But I will do my best to keep the capital "D" in Diesel! Other examples: Volt, Ampere, Hertz, Newton, Pascal, etc. Werner - Original Message - From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 deisel problem Knocked a vacuum line loose. Maybe at the keylock or at the IP or just anywhere else. Besides, its Diesel, not deisel (just in respect of Mr. Rudolf).
[MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year.
What is foul language? It's all relative. The Brits say " you bloody bas..." , we say " you f^&*ing bas...", and the Germans just say "Du Schweinehund". (My contribution for the last Saturday in 2006) Happy New Year to you all. On 12/29/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tim: I still don't understand why you are using digest rather than GMail. No, no, no, ... please, not a new thread, just my comment. D On 12/28/06, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank-you oh benevolent one. > > People - just rename the subject, eh? > > Mind you, on the digest, it sure has made the table of contents > interesting... > > Tim > 1982 300TD > 1991 300TE 4Matic > > -- > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:40:35 -0600 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, foul language > > OK, Tim realized he made a mistake and his post and changed removed the > bad word. It would seem everyone would have sense enough not to respond > back to the list, thereby continuing the problem for quite a while. > People make mistakes, but lets not keep the mistake going by replying to > the post. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] 123 deisel problem
Knocked a vacuum line loose. Maybe at the keylock or at the IP or just anywhere else. Besides, its Diesel, not deisel (just in respect of Mr. Rudolf). On 12/29/06, Lamsa Building <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a problem with my 1981 123 deisel not turning off when the key is turned. This happened all of a sudden. About the same time my door locks also stopped working. Looking for any information or ideas on how to fix both problems. Bi;; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] Amazing MBs
At least amazing to me! Hope these get through. MikeN <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Re: [MBZ] 123 deisel problem
We really do need a Wiki or an FAQ. Marshall? On 12/29/06, Lamsa Building <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a problem with my 1981 123 deisel not turning off when the key is turned. This happened all of a sudden. About the same time my door locks also stopped working. Looking for any information or ideas on how to fix both problems. Bi;; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] todays crackhead
Ah, Hendrik, let me be the one to explain that posting links to bizarre eViLBaY items is a proud tradition that originated on the former mbz.org lists. Kaleb was its most enthusiastic (but by no means sole) practitioner. I am especially fond of its near cousin, making fun of people who choose enthusiasm over skill in their photography. Happy New Year Mac on 12/30/06 5:59 PM, Hendrik Riessen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you for that Kaleb, however I think we have all worked out by now that > there are a lot of people on stealbay that are dreaming/hoping to find a > sucker who will pay that sort of 's for their perfect vehicle. > Perhaps if you narrow your search criteria then you won't have to look at > all these overpriced vehicles, which seem to upset you quite a bit. Maybe > you could put in a search criteria that only finds rusted out heaps under > 500 slides:-) > > Hendrik > who scored a set of genuine MB mags with near new tyres for AU$365 but > shipping was a killer (ebay # 170057683548) > > - Original Message - > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:39 AM > Subject: [MBZ] todays crackhead > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190e-1985-Mercedes-19 >> 0e-49-947-actual-miles-beautiful_W0QQitemZ190067180963QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6328 >> QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29/12/2006 >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 deisel problem
Vacuum leak. Look for a hose knocked off. Was the oil just changed? Levi On 12/29/06, Lamsa Building <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a problem with my 1981 123 deisel not turning off when the key is turned. This happened all of a sudden. About the same time my door locks also stopped working. Looking for any information or ideas on how to fix both problems. Bi;; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some amazing MBs
as long as they are not just huge, all you have to do is attatch them to an email and send to the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need some bodies helps, please. Since I'm computer challenged and on the digest, I would like to post pictures of four very special MB's that my indy owns. If some one out there would accept these photos, I will try to send these to you so you could post them on the list. Thanks. MikeN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Euro Manny Tranny $900 in Oregon
its been deleted kevin kraly wrote: I know that several list members are interested in manny tranny 300D's, so here's one I spotted on Craigslist. Anyone interested? http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/255018484.html It's right in Hillsboro, so I would be more than happy to go check it out. Heck, I'm hoping someone beats me to it so I'm not tempted to buy it! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
