Re: [MBZ] OT: Imperial Co-President
You mean the Secret Service agents? That isn't an entourage, that is government policy. All of the wives of ex-Presidents (living and dad -- the men, not the wives) have such protection. At least Hillary's campaign team paid the $3000 rather than using government funds! I'm trying to remember if I saw protection when Senators came thru town during the 2004 election cycle. Don't think they rate Secret Service. Ironically, speaking of having an entourage, Vilsack came to our high school for a meeting a few months ago, while he was still governor. One (and only one) Chevy Suburban, him in the right front seat, his wife and his assistant in the back, and one Iowa State Police officer (plain clothes) driving the Suburban. No black helicopters, no snipers on the roof, just one Suburban and one driver/guard. On 1/27/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like it just isn't the pres with an entourage. --R (who knows this is different, but the same) http://www.dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070127/NEWS02/701270355 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
On Jan 27, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Euan wrote: But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences (petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished 300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed? 280 engines come in two flavors, one drinks premium, one drinks regular, which is it? Premium likely. also adjusting the fuel injection can be tricky, a friend of mine had a 280GE it would get miserable to pour gas on the street milage until a dealer finally got the adjustments right, then it rated poor (15 miles per (usa) gallon). I would expect the wagon to get better of course. John 1983 300TDt 385k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
John: Nice pun! Don On 1/27/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it would get miserable to pour gas on the street mileage -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
Nothing much, the 280TE was the top of the line wagon for Benz, so should have all the bells and whistles like power windows, cruise, wood console/dash and other bits and pieces found in the 280's. Ecxpect to get 15l/100ks when tuned properly and running on good fuel, other than that the 110 motor is pretty bulletproof if the maintenance has been done. P.S. Are you on the Ozbenz forum? http://forum.mbspares.com.au/index.php It is more focused on Oz and NZ models than the Yankee lists. - Original Message - From: Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences (petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished 300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed? Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 205K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 26/01/2007
Re: [MBZ] beyond crack
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Mitch Haley wrote: John W. Reames III wrote: The fronts were OK when I got it, the back was unsalvageable. Climate control dead except for the fan. Shocks were Sears and worn, one of the backs seemed oil-free. For $550 almost five years ago, I got a rustfree car with 300k on the clock that would get 27mpg at 75-80 mph. I had been looking at $2-3k W126/OM617 when I found the 1979 W116. It's quite peppy around town, I wonder if the pre-1980 cam has more low end torque than the 1980-85, or if the lack of EGR helps that much? Make sure there is no rust around the front sway bar mounting! I think Proper disabling of the EGR makes a difference, but I believe there is a difference in transmissions and rear axles as well. 27mpg sounds about like what I got out of my 84. BTW i forgot to mention, I'd rather be hit in ANY mercedes as compared to any VW (at least prior to the last generation or two)... I was rear-ended in a 126... maybe 35mph, I was stopped. The left side trunk pan tore loose from the frame, the rear doors chipped paint off their back edge and the body due to sudden excessive intimacy, the sunroof popped open The inside of the trunk... well the bottom liner was torn loose on the front edge (where it was hinged) and pushed forward about 4-6. I remember thinking that the spare might need to be deflated if it were to come out... The rear bumper was pushed in hard (the forward ends of it were definitely down. Oh yeah and I still could drive it home (75 Miles, I waited 90 mins for the Leesburg cops, wasnt gonna wait another 90 mins for towing to boot!)... When I got the trunk open (Yep it opened right up), I was unable to re-close it because the lid had spring back out enough that the latch tab was outside the rear panel of the car. Did I mention that I was uninjured? Did I also mention that the other driver's rearview mirror came UNGLUED from the glass (his head did not hit it...) and smashed itself on the dash, breaking plastic bits off of it? I'll take a Benz any day coming or going. Period. Lots of people will tell you that a car just gets you from point A to point B and that You don't need anything that fancy... yeah a car gets you to point B, but the hidden assumption is that you are alive to get there. THAT is the REAL primary job of the car--to keep the occupants safe in an unsafe world WHILE getting you from point A to point B. Comfort and style is nice (well comfort--driving from full to empty on the tank without javing to stop for a walk, is a good thing, IMHO), and fuel mileage is great, but Geo Metro XFIs got great mileage (54-58 I want to say), but would you want to be hit in a car that is made of plastic? Anyhow -j.
Re: [MBZ] Terminology
Marshall. What about Getty or Hess? Those are the two I get here. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- The ONLY premium diesel that I've found to be consistently superior is the Amoco/BP fuel that I've routinely used for the last 10+ years. The Shell and the Texaco premiums (while not BAD fuel) have been disappointing. Exxon/Mobil diesel is of very poor quality (in MY experience). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
it's faster than the TD. it suffers the usual mercedes straight six valve guide/seal problems. it will punish you more if you get a poorly maintained example. what's a nice 123 wagon selling for down there? On 1/27/07, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there family Yesterday, I parked beside the rarest of rarities in NZ. A 1979 280TE, NZ-new, 2 owners, auto-trans with ... wait for it... 50 K original miles on the clock. And the owners may be thinking of selling it. So in the even rarer event that SWMBO would agree to owning a second W123 estate, I'm all-atremble at the prospect of making an offer for it. But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences (petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished 300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed? I noticed also that, at rest, this beauty rode a lot higher in the rear than my 205K mile wagon. Why would that be, do you think? Will the imminent replacement of my suspension struts jack my butt up too? Thanks Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 205K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Terminology
Dwight - just look around for where the nearest refinery might be - that's probably what the local stations are pumping. In the case of RI, that may be North Jersey, and supplied by barge via Narragansett bay? Werner - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Terminology Marshall. What about Getty or Hess? Those are the two I get here. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- The ONLY premium diesel that I've found to be consistently superior is the Amoco/BP fuel that I've routinely used for the last 10+ years. The Shell and the Texaco premiums (while not BAD fuel) have been disappointing. Exxon/Mobil diesel is of very poor quality (in MY experience). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
In case anyone is interestetd in the latest Mobil1 tests, here's the URL: http://www.mobiloil.com:80/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Product_Testing_Las_Vegas.aspx Not intended to start another round of the same old oil thread! Werner '90 300D '83SD
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
About 2-3 grand more than a sedan. 300TD's are getting very rare, mostly 230TE's and a few 280TE's. People are just not selling them. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason it's faster than the TD. it suffers the usual mercedes straight six valve guide/seal problems. it will punish you more if you get a poorly maintained example. what's a nice 123 wagon selling for down there?
[MBZ] The real reason diesels aren't more popular
Because movie characters couldn't disable the cars of their opponents by reaching under the hood and grabbing a handfull of wires. And the opponent couldn't come out to find the hood cracked a bit and grab a handfull of wires and throw them down in disgust. Brian
Re: [MBZ] OT: Imperial Co-President
LT Don wrote: I'm trying to remember if I saw protection when Senators came thru town during the 2004 election cycle. Don't think they rate Secret Service. I think Secret Service is limited to people associated with the Presidency -- the President, the President's family, and major candidates for President. Campaign season is a real pain for pilots. Whenever the President travels, he's surrounded by a Temporary Flight Restriction. It moves with him and there isn't always much advance notice of changes. Last I heard, violating it, even unintentionally, was a very quick way to lose your license.
[MBZ] New to me eMac
Was at the Apple store with oldest boy helping him look at iPods. Opened the door for some poor fellow loaded down with an eMac. He wanted to let them recycle the thing and order a new one since this was broken. They told him no luck getting it recycled there, but they will take his order. He left it on the table with the iPods while he filled out his order. I take a peek at the thing. Full of dust bunnies. No indication what speed, but it had three USB and a digital video out. Must be good for parts. When he is done, I tell the guy that I can recycle it for him. He is happy not to have to haul it back home or even back to his car. Off it goes in my arms and to home where some canned air gets the nasties out and I have a nice 700Mhz G4 eMac for nothing. Wonder if I can get another car that cheap. Diesel of course. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
emac has always appealed to me as they are so cheap. the one's i've looked at (but never purchased) were between 100 and 150 dollars. free is not a bad deal. On 1/28/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was at the Apple store with oldest boy helping him look at iPods. Opened the door for some poor fellow loaded down with an eMac. He wanted to let them recycle the thing and order a new one since this was broken. They told him no luck getting it recycled there, but they will take his order. He left it on the table with the iPods while he filled out his order. I take a peek at the thing. Full of dust bunnies. No indication what speed, but it had three USB and a digital video out. Must be good for parts. When he is done, I tell the guy that I can recycle it for him. He is happy not to have to haul it back home or even back to his car. Off it goes in my arms and to home where some canned air gets the nasties out and I have a nice 700Mhz G4 eMac for nothing. Wonder if I can get another car that cheap. Diesel of course. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency
I am liking Villsack a bunch, so will be backing him for Pres. Figure LT Don can be right once. On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: All youz guyz talkin' poly-tics should talk to LT Don and ask him about the man he's backing. Sounds like a fella with a clue.so he probably has no chance, sadly. Bob R. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Even though you didn;t ask me, I like the looks sounds of Sen. Brownback (Ks) although it;s much too early to know for certain who will or won't actually be running, he's in the early stages of a campaign. He's a supporter of the Constitution - a rarity these days. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency So whom do you like, Mitch? Please don't say John McCain... On 1/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob DuPuy wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that the same Bush is infringing on my freedoms crowed are also the same folks that advocate the Dem policies of cradle to grave socialism and government control over even the must mundane aspects of life. If you're talking about me, you're way, way, off base. I think the above comment is off base in general. The dems who hate Bush because they think he's conservative probably WANT to think gov't is there to protect them. The libertarian leaning types used to think they hated democrap politicians more than repugnicants, but Bush II changed that for me. Now the only thing I hate more than a commie socialist like Ted Kennedy is a national socialist like GWB. My uncle nearly died at the Battle of the Bulge so people in europe wouldn't have to be subject to Bushist policies, and now we have an administration here that thinks it can disappear you to Cuba at a whim. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
Well, these things are not light by any stretch. The iMac is feather weight in comparison. I think there is a bunch of armor in the body that acts as shielding for use in computer labs that the home version iMacs did not have. Nice to get the speed bump and a burner for that price. Dude left all sorts of data behind. I burned a disk with it so that he can have it for the new machine. Figure he wants his passport application and financial stuff. On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: emac has always appealed to me as they are so cheap. the one's i've looked at (but never purchased) were between 100 and 150 dollars. free is not a bad deal. On 1/28/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was at the Apple store with oldest boy helping him look at iPods. Opened the door for some poor fellow loaded down with an eMac. He wanted to let them recycle the thing and order a new one since this was broken. They told him no luck getting it recycled there, but they will take his order. He left it on the table with the iPods while he filled out his order. I take a peek at the thing. Full of dust bunnies. No indication what speed, but it had three USB and a digital video out. Must be good for parts. When he is done, I tell the guy that I can recycle it for him. He is happy not to have to haul it back home or even back to his car. Off it goes in my arms and to home where some canned air gets the nasties out and I have a nice 700Mhz G4 eMac for nothing. Wonder if I can get another car that cheap. Diesel of course. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Mac specs all models
www.mactracker.ca/ RLE
[MBZ] What's a 300TD worth in the colonies? (was: trembling on the brink...)
I agree with Hendrik. Up here in NZ, you hardly ever see these wagons for sale. Mine is insured for $ NZ9500 but as the salesman/valuer said, I could only expect to receive that from someone who was already keen on classic Mercedes wagons. Until I had it re-assessed for agreed-value insurance purposes, my insurance company figured it was worth about $NZ3500 - 4000 tops. Needless to say, revaluation was essential, to avoid the insurance company writing it off in the event of minor panel damage. Fact is, no-one knows what a good model is really worth. A good indication, however, is that every time I attend a car- boot sale (trunk, for you guys down there), there is more interest in the wagon than in my goods. Also get about 2-3 inquiries on average on and off the street each year. Mind you, mine's a reasonably tidy example. Cheers Euan - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason what's a nice 123 wagon selling for down there?
Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency
Does anyone but me get irritated at obama's face? It just looks too young - out of place. And I heard that he was actually on the cover of Tean Beat, or at least in the issue somewhere. And who could forget that picture of him frolicing, bathing suit-clad on the beach? It's all just too, well, wierd. Oh, and he could benefit a megaton from a name change. Brian On 1/28/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am liking Villsack a bunch, so will be backing him for Pres. Figure LT Don can be right once. On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: All youz guyz talkin' poly-tics should talk to LT Don and ask him about the man he's backing. Sounds like a fella with a clue.so he probably has no chance, sadly. Bob R. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Even though you didn;t ask me, I like the looks sounds of Sen. Brownback (Ks) although it;s much too early to know for certain who will or won't actually be running, he's in the early stages of a campaign. He's a supporter of the Constitution - a rarity these days. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency So whom do you like, Mitch? Please don't say John McCain... On 1/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob DuPuy wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that the same Bush is infringing on my freedoms crowed are also the same folks that advocate the Dem policies of cradle to grave socialism and government control over even the must mundane aspects of life. If you're talking about me, you're way, way, off base. I think the above comment is off base in general. The dems who hate Bush because they think he's conservative probably WANT to think gov't is there to protect them. The libertarian leaning types used to think they hated democrap politicians more than repugnicants, but Bush II changed that for me. Now the only thing I hate more than a commie socialist like Ted Kennedy is a national socialist like GWB. My uncle nearly died at the Battle of the Bulge so people in europe wouldn't have to be subject to Bushist policies, and now we have an administration here that thinks it can disappear you to Cuba at a whim. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The real reason diesels aren't more popular
That's funny, brian! It would take a bit more to disable a mechanical diesel, but today's electronically controlled diesels could also be stopped by opening the hood and yanking a handfull of wires. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
Dude left all sorts of data behind. I burned a disk with it so that he can have it for the new machine. Figure he wants his passport application and financial stuff. That's a Mercedes Diesel owner, a good, honest man. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] The real reason diesels aren't more popular
kevin kraly wrote: That's funny, brian! It would take a bit more to disable a mechanical diesel, but today's electronically controlled diesels could also be stopped by opening the hood and yanking a handfull of wires. Or by pointing a toast the circuits gun at the car. I can't wait until they get a production model in the hands of the same cops that would Taser a 80 year old for wandering in the street in his pajamas, or fire 200 rounds into a residence because they think one of the guys in the house shot at them. At that point, I will not drive anything newer than a '87 MBZ diesel. (with modified IP and no electronic idle control) Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
the eMacs are so heavy b/c of the CRT. That, and the code weighs more ;) On 1/28/07, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude left all sorts of data behind. I burned a disk with it so that he can have it for the new machine. Figure he wants his passport application and financial stuff. That's a Mercedes Diesel owner, a good, honest man. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency
There is one thing about his face that puts off some people, and I don't think it is his age. As for the name change, how about a simple apostrophe? Barak O'Bama. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Does anyone but me get irritated at obama's face? It just looks too young - out of place. And I heard that he was actually on the cover of Tean Beat, or at least in the issue somewhere. And who could forget that picture of him frolicing, bathing suit-clad on the beach? It's all just too, well, wierd. Oh, and he could benefit a megaton from a name change. Brian On 1/28/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am liking Villsack a bunch, so will be backing him for Pres. Figure LT Don can be right once. On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: All youz guyz talkin' poly-tics should talk to LT Don and ask him about the man he's backing. Sounds like a fella with a clue.so he probably has no chance, sadly. Bob R. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Even though you didn;t ask me, I like the looks sounds of Sen. Brownback (Ks) although it;s much too early to know for certain who will or won't actually be running, he's in the early stages of a campaign. He's a supporter of the Constitution - a rarity these days. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency So whom do you like, Mitch? Please don't say John McCain... On 1/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob DuPuy wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that the same Bush is infringing on my freedoms crowed are also the same folks that advocate the Dem policies of cradle to grave socialism and government control over even the must mundane aspects of life. If you're talking about me, you're way, way, off base. I think the above comment is off base in general. The dems who hate Bush because they think he's conservative probably WANT to think gov't is there to protect them. The libertarian leaning types used to think they hated democrap politicians more than repugnicants, but Bush II changed that for me. Now the only thing I hate more than a commie socialist like Ted Kennedy is a national socialist like GWB. My uncle nearly died at the Battle of the Bulge so people in europe wouldn't have to be subject to Bushist policies, and now we have an administration here that thinks it can disappear you to Cuba at a whim. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For
Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency
Chris Kueny wrote: As for the name change, how about a simple apostrophe? Barak O'Bama. Or we could drop the first name, change the last name a bit, and call him Osama bin Hussein. This century has not been kind to names that sound like his. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency
In keeping with the title of this thread, I'm preparing a draft Neil Bush campaign. He's already been pre-disastered (a la The World According to Garp) With two failed presidencies, the third time's bound to be a winner. We desperately need him to revitalize an American dynasty tarnished and tattered by incompetence and buffoonery. High-Ho Silverado!
Re: [MBZ] Terminology
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Marshall. What about Getty or Hess? Those are the two I get here. Dwight Hess has been slightly above average for me. Getty has been POOR, but there were few Getty stations where I generally drive. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency
Chris suggested: As for the name change, how about a simple apostrophe? Barak O'Bama. Then the informed American voter will think he is voting for an Irish guy. Bob R - Original Message - From: Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency There is one thing about his face that puts off some people, and I don't think it is his age. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Does anyone but me get irritated at obama's face? It just looks too young - out of place. And I heard that he was actually on the cover of Tean Beat, or at least in the issue somewhere. And who could forget that picture of him frolicing, bathing suit-clad on the beach? It's all just too, well, wierd. Oh, and he could benefit a megaton from a name change. Brian On 1/28/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am liking Villsack a bunch, so will be backing him for Pres. Figure LT Don can be right once. On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: All youz guyz talkin' poly-tics should talk to LT Don and ask him about the man he's backing. Sounds like a fella with a clue.so he probably has no chance, sadly. Bob R. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Even though you didn;t ask me, I like the looks sounds of Sen. Brownback (Ks) although it;s much too early to know for certain who will or won't actually be running, he's in the early stages of a campaign. He's a supporter of the Constitution - a rarity these days. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency So whom do you like, Mitch? Please don't say John McCain... On 1/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob DuPuy wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that the same Bush is infringing on my freedoms crowed are also the same folks that advocate the Dem policies of cradle to grave socialism and government control over even the must mundane aspects of life. If you're talking about me, you're way, way, off base. I think the above comment is off base in general. The dems who hate Bush because they think he's conservative probably WANT to think gov't is there to protect them. The libertarian leaning types used to think they hated democrap politicians more than repugnicants, but Bush II changed that for me. Now the only thing I hate more than a commie socialist like Ted Kennedy is a national socialist like GWB. My uncle nearly died at the Battle of the Bulge so people in europe wouldn't have to be subject to Bushist policies, and now we have an administration here that thinks it can disappear you to Cuba at a whim. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
Least I could do for such a fine machine as a gift. On Jan 28, 2007, at 1:58 AM, kevin kraly wrote: Dude left all sorts of data behind. I burned a disk with it so that he can have it for the new machine. Figure he wants his passport application and financial stuff. That's a Mercedes Diesel owner, a good, honest man. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency
Bob Rentfro wrote: Chris suggested: As for the name change, how about a simple apostrophe? Barak O'Bama. Then the informed American voter will think he is voting for an Irish guy. An Irish guy who went to a Catholic high school. The return of JFK? The problem with any name change is that he got into a federal office by appealing to the Chicago constituency as a genuine African American, complete with father born in Kenya. Mitch
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
Redghost wrote: Least I could do for such a fine machine as a gift. Need to get in line where they recycle old but still good cars in CA and try to save the Mercedes. Now that would really be a fine machine as a gift, or for $200, or whatever the gov't is buying them up for. I've been tempted to go to one of those 'gun buybacks' where they trade $50 gift certificates for guns and offer $100 cash for anything worth $200 or more.
Re: [MBZ] The real reason diesels aren't more popular
That guy Vin is pretty popular though. --R Zoltan Finks wrote: Because movie characters couldn't disable the cars of their opponents by reaching under the hood and grabbing a handfull of wires. And the opponent couldn't come out to find the hood cracked a bit and grab a handfull of wires and throw them down in disgust. Brian
[MBZ] OT: Imperial Co-President
Jose can you see? http://hotair.com/archives/2007/01/27/video-hillary-sings/ --R
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
On 1/28/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: order. I take a peek at the thing. Full of dust bunnies. No indication what speed, but it had three USB and a digital video out. Must be good for parts. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner Clay, I've got one of the last eMac's made, 1.42 Ghz G4. Very happy with it, good solid machine. In case this happens again in a future Apple Store visit, use your thumbnail to fold the CD tray door down, there is a sticker on the inside of the door that will tell you what it shipped from the factory with. Though, obviously this can't tell you of any upgrades a previous owner may have performed it will give you a good base. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Imperial Co-President
Excellent -- I wonder what happened to her bucket? You know, the bucket she needs to carry a tune --- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Imperial Co-President Jose can you see? http://hotair.com/archives/2007/01/27/video-hillary-sings/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 1/28/2007
Re: [MBZ] The real reason diesels aren't more popular
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, kevin kraly wrote: That's funny, brian! It would take a bit more to disable a mechanical diesel, but today's electronically controlled diesels could also be stopped by opening the hood and yanking a handfull of wires. Disconnect the GP relay then put the cap back on to hide it. Cut one of the small wires at the terminal block (that goes to the starter) My favorite evil thing was on the Jeeps-there is a ceramic resistor near the washer bottle that is for the fuel pump -- during starting the pump gets full voltage, but after starting it goes thru the resistor. Disconnect the resistor and it starts fine but quickly dies when you let it go to Run g -j.
[MBZ] PHX 190D 2.5 5 speed sort of
Hm http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/264576261.html Bob Rentfro '77 300D 167K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan 28 20:31:49 2007 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.200.83]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HBGgn-00037K-2E for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:31:49 + Received: from yourfulkl1oh2q (c-24-21-57-15.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.21.57.15]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id 2007012820310201300hvc46e; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:31:02 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:31:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX 190D 2.5 5 speed sort of X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:31:49 - Go for it, Bob! It should be quite fun and reasonably peppy with the manny behind it. For $1000, you could probably afford to sort the stuff out that's wrong due to the engine swap and fix the ACC too. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] PHX 190D 2.5 5 speed sort of
Bob Rentfro wrote: Hm http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/264576261.html A 2.5 engine can't be tucked into an '84-'85 2.2 chassis without a lot of welding and sheet metal work. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
don't you guys find it funny that we talk about obsolete macs all day and never even a word about vista? I don't, but i'm sure any outsides would. On 1/28/07, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/28/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: order. I take a peek at the thing. Full of dust bunnies. No indication what speed, but it had three USB and a digital video out. Must be good for parts. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner Clay, I've got one of the last eMac's made, 1.42 Ghz G4. Very happy with it, good solid machine. In case this happens again in a future Apple Store visit, use your thumbnail to fold the CD tray door down, there is a sticker on the inside of the door that will tell you what it shipped from the factory with. Though, obviously this can't tell you of any upgrades a previous owner may have performed it will give you a good base. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
Cause we don't talk about hardly anything that is new, and when we do, we gripe about it (new labels on Mobil 1). I've found Vista to be lacking critical HW drivers for HP Tablet PCs, and have had it lock up (or just get really slow) a couple of times. It's not ready for prime time yet, IMHO. On 1/28/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't you guys find it funny that we talk about obsolete macs all day and never even a word about vista? I don't, but i'm sure any outsides would. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] PHX 190D 2.5 5 speed sort of
I somehow suspected that... Bob R - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX 190D 2.5 5 speed sort of Bob Rentfro wrote: Hm http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/264576261.html A 2.5 engine can't be tucked into an '84-'85 2.2 chassis without a lot of welding and sheet metal work. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
oh, hell, i'm not even going to look at vista until i have to. as long as the one or two things i have to do on windoze can still be done on XP, that is the end of the line for me. I imagine i have at least 5 years. On 1/28/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cause we don't talk about hardly anything that is new, and when we do, we gripe about it (new labels on Mobil 1). I've found Vista to be lacking critical HW drivers for HP Tablet PCs, and have had it lock up (or just get really slow) a couple of times. It's not ready for prime time yet, IMHO. On 1/28/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't you guys find it funny that we talk about obsolete macs all day and never even a word about vista? I don't, but i'm sure any outsides would. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New to me eMac
what can vista do that XP or win2k can't? Moreover, what can vista do that OS X can't? On 1/28/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh, hell, i'm not even going to look at vista until i have to. as long as the one or two things i have to do on windoze can still be done on XP, that is the end of the line for me. I imagine i have at least 5 years. On 1/28/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cause we don't talk about hardly anything that is new, and when we do, we gripe about it (new labels on Mobil 1). I've found Vista to be lacking critical HW drivers for HP Tablet PCs, and have had it lock up (or just get really slow) a couple of times. It's not ready for prime time yet, IMHO. On 1/28/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't you guys find it funny that we talk about obsolete macs all day and never even a word about vista? I don't, but i'm sure any outsides would. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
