Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
No rodbender. No wiring harness problems. Ac evap is a PITA to change. '87 300TD's are one of the Holy Grails of Mercedes dieseldom. It is the only year diesel 124 wagons were imported. It is also the only year that particular engine was imported in the 124 chassis. Very powerful. OK so assume the head is trashed. I suppose a replacement could be scavenged from somewhere -- how much $$? Can that piston be changed out with the engine in the car? Would it be better to just try to find a complete donor engine? '87 heads are the 14 heads and are prone to cracking. Replacements can be purchased used from salvage yards, eBay and perhaps our list sponsor Kaleb. I believe the latest update on that head is a 22 casting number. New heads can be purchased from Rusty. I think you can change out the piston in the car, but that question would be better addressed by some of the other list guru's. Replacement engine? ask K'leb Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky
I find that using the soldapult and re-soldering circiut boards to be MUCH more satisfying than watching someone else playing a game on TV. I get a working component to boot! I -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] used parts specials for 5/17/07
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] holy crap they spent a ton of money on this car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-1977-Mercedes-300D-Diesel-8-000-mi-Garage-Kept-MINT_W0QQitemZ250116133549QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] this guy has smoked too much crack
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-SDL-32-mpg-Low-Reserve_W0QQitemZ130114735460QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] So where is Marshall
Have not seen him on the list lately. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
Man, if that wasn't all the way across the country I would have to have it! Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
I'd love to have a trailer wiring harness for my 123 TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So where is Marshall
Have not seen him on the list lately. He is one of the moderators on the MBCA diesel forum. He hasn't posted there in over a month, however one of the members there talked to him on 5/15. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
[MBZ] Online Service Manuals
I have ordered manuals for my car. In the mean time while I wait on the USPS to deliver them, is there any sites that have the manuals online? Steakyskinnerbox is subscription, and braingears appears to be gone... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 02:44:40 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.246]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HosSN-0006Cf-TW for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 02:44:40 + Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c25so179501ana for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.14.19 with SMTP id 19mr816730ann.1179456276055; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.125.13 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:44:35 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Online Service Manuals X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 02:44:40 - Which ones are you lookin' for? On 5/17/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ordered manuals for my car. In the mean time while I wait on the USPS to deliver them, is there any sites that have the manuals online? Steakyskinnerbox is subscription, and braingears appears to be gone... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
what is different about this increase is that it is not just based on weight but size also...as you point out. Chris John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is too thick it goes up too; a not-sharply-creased two page business letter in a com10 envelope can push out to about half an inch thik, so it will cost you $.80 instead of $.41 I sh*t you not -j. On Thu, 17 May 2007, Craig McCluskey wrote: In case you've been hiding under a rock like my wife and I have, the cost of sending mail went up on Monday. Craig From http://postcalc.usps.gov/Popups/pop_up23.htm, First-Class Mail Letters First-Class Mail, Priority Mail, or Express Mail is required for personal correspondence, handwritten or typewritten material, and bills or statements of account. First-Class Mail may also be used for advertisements. First-Class Mail Letter Rates Weight Not Over (ounces) Rates 1 $0.41 2 0.58 3 0.75 3.5 0.92 Letters that weigh 1 ounce or less and meet one or more of the nonmachinable characteristics below are subject to the $0.17 nonmachinable surcharge. For heavier items, see Large Envelope or Package. * It is a square letter * It is too rigid \u2013 does not bend easily * It has clasps, string, buttons, or similar closure devices * It has an address parallel to the shorter dimension of the letter * It contains items such as pens that cause the surface to be uneven * The length divided by height is less than 1.3 or more than 2.5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 222K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 03:08:24 2007 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.230]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HospM-0001qB-0F for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:08:24 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t8so753102wxc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.39.18 with SMTP id m18mr777285anm.1179457701783; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.125.13 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:08:21 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 03:08:25 - Because size matters, I guess. On 5/17/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is different about this increase is that it is not just based on weight but size also...as you point out. Chris -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
what is different about this increase is that it is not just based on weight but size also...as you point out. It used to cost $4.75 to mail a cruise control amp, now it's about $6.30 or so. Neither factor changed in this case. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD with heat 24/7
So under this scenario (shorted aux. water pump), when I unplug the pump my heat/cool modes will return to normal. Is this correct? Yes, unless the short damaged the PB array. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
Strap a GPS to it, set it on 120, and let her rip! --R Jim Cathey wrote: what is different about this increase is that it is not just based on weight but size also...as you point out. It used to cost $4.75 to mail a cruise control amp, now it's about $6.30 or so. Neither factor changed in this case. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
uh...Jim...rethink. It's a postal INCREASE. In the past, the increase was based solely on weight, they did not care the dimensions, now they do. Your price went up and I realize that your package hasn't changed, but you have no idea how to account for the $1.55 difference. It may be solely the weight of the package (they charge MORE for the same weight...that's an increase) and it may also be becauase of the DIMENSIONS of the package...that was never a consideration in the past. For example. a letter in a standard envelope under 1 oz WAS 39 cents. It is now 41 cents. the letter hasn't changed, the rate has. Another scenario. That same letter in a 9x12 envelope WAS 39 cents (weight based only), but now is MORE than 41 cents (don't know how much more, but it is more than 41 cents, I know that) because of the DIMENSION. Get it? Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is different about this increase is that it is not just based on weight but size also...as you point out. It used to cost $4.75 to mail a cruise control amp, now it's about $6.30 or so. Neither factor changed in this case. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 222K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 03:45:53 2007 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.233]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HotPc-0002Ki-Ol for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:45:53 + Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so822911wrq for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.38.2 with SMTP id l2mr599732wal.1179459948006; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.60.14 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:45:47 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 03:45:53 - I already own a car like that and do much of my own work (but not AC). On 5/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose it you are paying a shop to fix everything. If that is the case, you really have no business owning a car like this in the first place. andrew strasfogel wrote: It's a genuine money pit, starting with $2K needed to fix the AC and it goes downhill from there... This is no bargain. On 5/17/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C.
Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
Curt, Given the circumstances (I was taught to diagnose cars by sitaiton, not just symptoms, I think it's a good bet or working hypothesis that's it's bad fule or maybe restriction. DWight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:33 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 300D drives slow This weekend I might be going to look at an '85 300D. According to the owner it drove great last fall, then wasn't started for a few months and now struggles above 40mph. I'm thinking water/algae in the fuel and a shot of cleaner and new fuel filters should get it going again. The pictures look good, very clean, no obvious rust. She's asking $1500, I'm thinking if it looks in person like the pictures I'll offer $1000 and see what happens. -Curt - Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Mike, The trailer wiring harnesses here are a lot different than North American ones. It's a big round plug, approx 2 inches across and sits to the right of the hitch. My new Audi A4 TDI manual has a factory hitch! VERY nice! Jeff Zedic
[MBZ] Drool...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1960-300SL-Roadster_W0QQitemZ260117290670QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DIMENSIONS of the package...that was never a consideration in the past. Actually, I think there have been extra charges for odd/oversized letters for some time. Not sure what the exact limits are, though. I do recall having to put extra postage on a greeting card envelope several years ago, not due to weight but to the dimensions. I think it has to do with whether the dimensions are such that the automated equipment can't handle it and it kicks out for manual sorting. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This...
Kaleb wrote: I suppose if you are paying a shop to fix everything. If that is the case, you really have no business owning a car like this in the first place. That is why I don't buy the cars that need much more than minor DIY work. I can't do a lot of it or I don't have time (because I am watching football games). I can do most maintenance things, but beyond that my attempts to fix make the problem worse not better. I am really good at the cosmetic work. I can make a car LOOK good. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K
[MBZ] holy crap - ton of money on this car
Actually looks a bit strange to me in that color; 'don't remember seeing any '77s that color. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] holy crap they spent a ton of money on this car
It's been overimproved, to say the least. The poor guy's reserve price is probably 5 figures... Sadly, it has no sunroof. It might be better if it were a really early VIN, e.g. 0 - 25. Still, someone may pay a lot since it is so spotless. On 5/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-1977-Mercedes-300D-Diesel-8-000-mi-Garage-Kept-MINT_W0QQitemZ250116133549QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
Both look nice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOTT-ITEM-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-300TD-STATIONWAGON_W0QQitemZ250114172405QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Starting bid seems high. He calls it a HOT ITEM is it stolen? LOL. And this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300TD-W124-TURBO-DIESEL-WAGON-7-SEATER-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ120121486860QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Florida car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] holy crap - ton of money on this car
wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually looks a bit strange to me in that color; 'don't remember seeing any '77s that color. He does say, I think, that it was stripped to the frame so it likely was repainted if that's the case. Shoulda at least put euro lights in, I think the DOT round sealed-beam lights on W123s are UGLY. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
The FL car was being offered for $9500 about 6 months ago. I think it must have a fatal flaw or two... On 5/18/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both look nice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOTT-ITEM-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-300TD-STATIONWAGON_W0QQitemZ250114172405QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Starting bid seems high. He calls it a HOT ITEM is it stolen? LOL. And this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300TD-W124-TURBO-DIESEL-WAGON-7-SEATER-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ120121486860QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Florida car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This...
I am really good at the cosmetic work. I can make a car LOOK good. Whereas me, not so much. But I can make it work well, anyway. Cosmetics I have a more difficult time with. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
It's true that dimensions did play a role in the past too, but with this increase, they added additional dimension requirements...which is not a normal part of the postal increases we've seen in recent years. Chris Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann writes: DIMENSIONS of the package...that was never a consideration in the past. Actually, I think there have been extra charges for odd/oversized letters for some time. Not sure what the exact limits are, though. I do recall having to put extra postage on a greeting card envelope several years ago, not due to weight but to the dimensions. I think it has to do with whether the dimensions are such that the automated equipment can't handle it and it kicks out for manual sorting. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 13:58:30 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.238]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hp2yU-00035L-24 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 13:58:30 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so1333412nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.130.1 with SMTP id c1mr872771wad.1179496704532; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.60.14 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:58:24 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This... X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:58:30 - I see a future joint venture coming. On 5/18/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am really good at the cosmetic work. I can make a car LOOK good. Whereas me, not so much. But I can make it work well, anyway. Cosmetics I have a more difficult time with. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Jeff, My main concern is that I don't want to cut the original harness in the car. I can modify the trailer plug end to suit. Mike - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Mike, The trailer wiring harnesses here are a lot different than North American ones. It's a big round plug, approx 2 inches across and sits to the right of the hitch. My new Audi A4 TDI manual has a factory hitch! VERY nice! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
Theres not a whole lot to go on, she's obviously not a mechanic. We'll see what happens Saturday. -Curt Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:40:51 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Is that all that's wrong with it? It might also be something broken in the throttle linkage that limit the accelerator, or a bad vacuum control valve that disables the turbo. On 5/17/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This weekend I might be going to look at an '85 300D. According to the owner it drove great last fall, then wasn't started for a few months and now struggles above 40mph. I'm thinking water/algae in the fuel and a shot of cleaner and new fuel filters should get it going again. The pictures look good, very clean, no obvious rust. She's asking $1500, I'm thinking if it looks in person like the pictures I'll offer $1000 and see what happens. -Curt - Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 14:03:09 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.227]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hp32y-0003DK-OW for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:03:09 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so1335306nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.92.2 with SMTP id u2mr827172wal.1179495240399; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.92.12 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:34:00 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:03:09 - Ahh, you just pick one up for like $15 at Wal-mart and wire it in. It's worked fine on my 97' Subaru and 83' 300D... Levi On 5/17/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to have a trailer wiring harness for my 123 TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The FL car was being offered for $9500 about 6 months ago. I think it must have a fatal flaw or two... Both KBB and Edmunds come up with a price $3000 for an 87 TD with 250K miles. What are these people thinking? Who pays 10 grand for a 20 year old car? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
I think so too. It should be pretty easy to diagnose in person. If the throttle linkage moves as I expect it to that'll rule that out. At 40mph (which she says is top speed) I should be able to notice the turbo right? ALOT of what I'll do for money on this depends on the body. The pictures I've seen are real good but don't show the rockers... -Curt Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:00:03 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt, Given the circumstances (I was taught to diagnose cars by sitaiton, not just symptoms, I think it's a good bet or working hypothesis that's it's bad fule or maybe restriction. DWight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:33 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 300D drives slow This weekend I might be going to look at an '85 300D. According to the owner it drove great last fall, then wasn't started for a few months and now struggles above 40mph. I'm thinking water/algae in the fuel and a shot of cleaner and new fuel filters should get it going again. The pictures look good, very clean, no obvious rust. She's asking $1500, I'm thinking if it looks in person like the pictures I'll offer $1000 and see what happens. -Curt - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 14:20:10 2007 Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.240.59]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hp3JS-0003oQ-Nx for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:20:10 + Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:20:05 -0400 Received: from 57QCVB1 ([70.172.209.18]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id 0eL41X00X0QMj3a000; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:20:04 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:23:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AceZVScQuAaDjZYBSZS+TIsNufMo6gAAVyIw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:20:11 - Offer her 850 and tell her you have to get a wrecker to get it home-regardless of what you figure out. Car tactics. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:02 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow Theres not a whole lot to go on, she's obviously not a mechanic. We'll see what happens Saturday. -Curt p://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
OK-have fun. WE are taking the 300D 2.5 on a road trip this weekend to Rockland ME Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:08 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow I think so too. It should be pretty easy to diagnose in person. If the throttle linkage moves as I expect it to that'll rule that out. At 40mph (which she says is top speed) I should be able to notice the turbo right? ALOT of what I'll do for money on this depends on the body. The pictures I've seen are real good but don't show the rockers... -Curt Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:00:03 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt, Given the circumstances (I was taught to diagnose cars by sitaiton, not just symptoms, I think it's a good bet or working hypothesis that's it's bad fule or maybe restriction. DWight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:33 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 300D drives slow This weekend I might be going to look at an '85 300D. According to the owner it drove great last fall, then wasn't started for a few months and now struggles above 40mph. I'm thinking water/algae in the fuel and a shot of cleaner and new fuel filters should get it going again. The pictures look good, very clean, no obvious rust. She's asking $1500, I'm thinking if it looks in person like the pictures I'll offer $1000 and see what happens. -Curt - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online Service Manuals
Which ones are you lookin' for? The '87 190 DT ones. I already have the cd's for the 123. Got 'em off of eBay coupla years ago. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
I hadn't checked Wally World yet..They didn't have one for my Dodge truck so I was doubtfull about the TD. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Ahh, you just pick one up for like $15 at Wal-mart and wire it in. It's worked fine on my 97' Subaru and 83' 300D... Levi On 5/17/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to have a trailer wiring harness for my 123 TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
On Fri, 18 May 2007 09:33:31 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DIMENSIONS of the package...that was never a consideration in the past. Actually, I think there have been extra charges for odd/oversized letters for some time. Not sure what the exact limits are, though. See my original post, quoting from the USPS web site. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Sorry, you nixed that one with the not cutting the wiring harness in your last message. I was talking about a universal one that you just put on with a couple vampire taps... Levi On 5/18/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't checked Wally World yet..They didn't have one for my Dodge truck so I was doubtfull about the TD. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Ahh, you just pick one up for like $15 at Wal-mart and wire it in. It's worked fine on my 97' Subaru and 83' 300D... Levi On 5/17/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to have a trailer wiring harness for my 123 TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
My wife told me she really likes the Ford Escape Hybrid and may want to sell/trade her Explorer to get one. I am a little leary of hybrid technology while it is still so new. Does anyone know anything about the reliability? Or the cost to replace the batteries when they will inevitably need to be replaced. I read an article that talked about the fact that with the cost of the batteries all the fuel savings is gone. Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
My son has had the Honda Civic hybrid for over a year now and has been very satisfied with it. Not sure if Honda Satisfaction will translate into Ford Satisfaction, though. ... I think the tax credit might still be in effect. On 5/18/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife told me she really likes the Ford Escape Hybrid and may want to sell/trade her Explorer to get one. I am a little leary of hybrid technology while it is still so new. Does anyone know anything about the reliability? Or the cost to replace the batteries when they will inevitably need to be replaced. I read an article that talked about the fact that with the cost of the batteries all the fuel savings is gone. Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
I don't know much about the Escape in particular and I tend to steer clear of most American vehicles. They're usually good enough but from my experience they're not as reliable as the Japanese stuff. Still, overall from what I've seen, in terms of cost, if you're planning on keeping the vehicle for 100K miles or more there's a good chance you'll make up the difference in fuel cost compared to the extra you paid for the Hybrid part. If you're only going to keep it for a few years and maybe 60K miles it's kinda doubtful that you'll recover that fuel cost compared to buying the cheaper model. You just don't generally get THAT much better mileage compared to the extra cost. Make sure you're aware that you will NOT get the mileage ratings on the window for city and only the highway rating if you accelerate slowly and keep it to 45mph... They are changing the ratings now to make a bit more sense (especially in regards to hybrids that might complete half the test without ever starting the engine, but not getting to the point of having to recharge)and the Prius is about to lose around 12mpg in the city rating. As for batteries, that's going to FAST becoming more of an issue in my mind. I've been watching the Honda list lately as the Insights were the first around 2000. And as expected, the batteries last around 6 years it seems. Honda seems to be doing pretty good and for the most part replacing them for free even on a 7 year old car with 178K miles on it. But I'd say you could expect to pay somewhere in the $500-3K range if and when your batteries die and you decide to replace them. I haven't really heard any reliability problems with them other than the same thing with pretty much ANY battery in that it's hard to make them last more than somewhere around 6 years... I *LOVE* the idea, but there are a lot of caveats with it. I'd love to pick up one of the original Insights that ACTUALLY got 70mpg on the highway. That could be done for like $6K too... It would still get near that mileage if the battery pack was toast too. Unfortunately they've more or less got it tied into the system so that if the battery pack gets completely useless there's no way to charge the normal 12V battery that would run the electrical system... Levi On 5/18/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife told me she really likes the Ford Escape Hybrid and may want to sell/trade her Explorer to get one. I am a little leary of hybrid technology while it is still so new. Does anyone know anything about the reliability? Or the cost to replace the batteries when they will inevitably need to be replaced. I read an article that talked about the fact that with the cost of the batteries all the fuel savings is gone. Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
I agree with you on all points. The technology is still not proven over the long term. Battery replacements every 5 years will be a source of recurring unhappiness. And what about the environmental impact of producing and then disposing of those batteries? As I posted the other day with reference to the TDI, the actual $$ you will save on fuel will be fairly small and eaten by interest on the note, opportunity cost of the new vehicle, higher insurance, etc. etc. Allan Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My wife told me she really likes the Ford Escape Hybrid and may want to sell/trade her Explorer to get one. I am a little leary of hybrid technology while it is still so new. Does anyone know anything about the reliability? Or the cost to replace the batteries when they will inevitably need to be replaced. I read an article that talked about the fact that with the cost of the batteries all the fuel savings is gone. Any information would be great. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
On Fri, 18 May 2007 11:27:04 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you on all points. The technology is still not proven over the long term. Battery replacements every 5 years will be a source of recurring unhappiness. And what about the environmental impact of producing and then disposing of those batteries? And what of all the environmental impact of producing all that electronics? In my mind, they're just too complicated (and I've been an electronics engineer). A good diesel, perhaps optimized for mileage, seems a much better choice. Craig
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
Allan Streib wrote: Both KBB and Edmunds come up with a price $3000 for an 87 TD with 250K miles. What are these people thinking? Who pays 10 grand for a 20 year old car? Lots of people on eBay.
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Levi Smith wrote: Sorry, you nixed that one with the not cutting the wiring harness in your last message. I was talking about a universal one that you just put on with a couple vampire taps... Is there actually a socket in the wiring harness that is designated for hooking up the trailer wiring? I imagine if there is Rusty can at least get the connector and the wiring could be done DIY to a generic hookup. John
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
looks like you could have a nice TD for a little money and a little work. IF the AC has 134, you may only need to fix some orings and charge. Change the ball joints, maybe tie rod ends and steering idler bushings and you are on the road. At 11:09 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote: H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] Online Service Manuals
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Online Service Manuals To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Which ones are you lookin' for? The '87 190 DT ones. I already have the cd's for the 123. Got 'em off of eBay coupla years ago. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT -- Anybody have a link to the subscription on line manual site and how much does it cost a year? Roger _ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507
[MBZ] Woot, 43mpg!
Fueled up this morning, 550miles, 12.9gal. Thats close enough to 43mpg for me... It took a week of not going over 70mpg though. Still money in pocket is money in pocket. -Curt - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 17:22:16 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.235]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hp69g-0007S5-Lx for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 17:22:16 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so1408070nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr958682wae.1179507285372; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.60.14 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:54:45 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:22:17 - KBB and Edmunds forgot to factor into their estimates the seemingly unlimited driving life of a well cared-for Mercedes diesel.. not to mention the sheer joy of owning and driving one... That happens to be worth quite a lot (about $5000). On 5/18/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Both KBB and Edmunds come up with a price $3000 for an 87 TD with 250K miles. What are these people thinking? Who pays 10 grand for a 20 year old car? Lots of people on eBay. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Woot, 43mpg!
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fueled up this morning, 550miles, 12.9gal. Thats close enough to 43mpg for me... It took a week of not going over 70mpg though. Still money in pocket is money in pocket. Which car is this? I never get more than about 25 MPG in my 300D. I always laugh when I see the ebay listings for OM617 diesels that claim 35, 40, or even more MPG. Makes me think everything else in the listing is a lie too. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Woot, 43mpg!
And the MB model is On 5/18/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fueled up this morning, 550miles, 12.9gal. Thats close enough to 43mpg for me... It took a week of not going over 70mpg though. Still money in pocket is money in pocket. -Curt - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Woot, 43mpg!
How does that compare to a hybrid, environmentally-wise, and say you use biofuel? Seems like there would be a nice masters thesis there somewhere, but I think someone already did the calculations. --R Curt Raymond wrote: Fueled up this morning, 550miles, 12.9gal. Thats close enough to 43mpg for me... It took a week of not going over 70mpg though. Still money in pocket is money in pocket. -Curt
[MBZ] on line link to 190D 2.5 Turbo
I had a link to the manual for my 87 190D 2.5 turbo. I can not find it and need section on oil pump maintenance. Doe anyone have the address? Robert Massmann 87 190D 2.5 Turbo - Join ISP.COM today - $8.95 internet , less than 1/2 the cost of AOL Try us out, http://www.isp.com/
Re: [MBZ] So where is Marshall
He is around, he has had some personal issues and been too busy to post. He placed an order with us on Tuesday. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] So where is Marshall Have not seen him on the list lately. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KBB and Edmunds forgot to factor into their estimates the seemingly unlimited driving life of a well cared-for Mercedes diesel.. not to mention the sheer joy of owning and driving one... That happens to be worth quite a lot (about $5000). AFAIK they just compile average purchase price data from public records of title transfers. So that should take into account the sheer joy factor too. Now that I say that, I remember that it's a common practice for private parties to under-report the actual sales price on the title paperwork to lower the sales tax burden of the buyer. So that could skew the numbers down somewhat. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] holy crap they spent a ton of money on this car
That would give someone a lot of years (decades?) of service if rust doesn't become an issue. On 5/18/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been overimproved, to say the least. The poor guy's reserve price is probably 5 figures... Sadly, it has no sunroof. It might be better if it were a really early VIN, e.g. 0 - 25. Still, someone may pay a lot since it is so spotless. On 5/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-1977-Mercedes-300D-Diesel-8-000-mi-Garage-Kept-MINT_W0QQitemZ250116133549QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
[MBZ] holy crap - ton of money in this car
Yes, car was repainted. My point is: If a car is going to be repainted, especially an MB, it should be done in a color original to that model and year, or it loolks a bit strange to me. Wilton 91 350SDL, 87 300D
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
Ralph Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has the dreaded burgundy (maroon) interior. My high line car broker buddy, who travels to all the Mannheim auction around the US every month, always told me that a burgundy interior in a high line car was the kiss of death as far as a dealer was concerned. On average, he figured that it took 15% - 25% off the value of the vehicle. Well that's *your* opinion. LOL. The seller, of course, begs to differ: The exterior color is Tan, the interior is Burgundy. The best color combination ever made and extremely hard to find. Seriously -- dreaded for what reason? Is it prone to degrade, or just not many people like the color? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Woot, 43mpg!
Curt Raymond wrote: Oh, whoops, this is my '85 190D 2.2l 5spd manual. 43 is right about my target for my 190D if I ever assemble all the pieces. 2.3-16V chassis and tranny (slightly better aerodynamics than your 190D), 2.65 diff, 1:1 5th gear, 2.5 turbo. If I can get 42-45mpg at 55-65mph I'll be happy. Mitch
Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
Curt Raymond wrote: I think so too. It should be pretty easy to diagnose in person. If the throttle linkage moves as I expect it to that'll rule that out. At 40mph (which she says is top speed) I should be able to notice the turbo right? This sounds just like my 300SD with a plugged see through filter. Take a couple with you, they are only $2 each.
Re: [MBZ] postal
That same letter in a 9x12 envelope WAS 39 cents (weight based only), but now is MORE than 41 cents (don't know how much more, but it is more than 41 cents, I know that) because of the DIMENSION. Get it? I've been mailing several 9X12 envelopes weekly for some years and the rate has always been 68 cents be cause it's oversized. How are you using 9X12 and paying #10 envelope rates? RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
Have those dealers send me their dog Smoke Silver/Burgundy cars. I was not sure about the interior when I bought my 86 SDL in 1999, but it is a great combination. Kaleb has promised to give me his Smoke Silver/Burgundy SDL if I take a junker out of his backyard! At 01:59 PM 5/18/2007, you wrote: --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FL car was being offered for $9500 about 6 months ago. I think it must have a fatal flaw or two... It has the dreaded burgundy (maroon) interior. My high line car broker buddy, who travels to all the Mannheim auction around the US every month, always told me that a burgundy interior in a high line car was the kiss of death as far as a dealer was concerned. On average, he figured that it took 15% - 25% off the value of the vehicle. RM Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
The 1980 300D I owned for 2 years was anthracite grey with a sienna (reddish brown) interior. Now that was a combination looked great. On 5/18/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have those dealers send me their dog Smoke Silver/Burgundy cars. I was not sure about the interior when I bought my 86 SDL in 1999, but it is a great combination. Kaleb has promised to give me his Smoke Silver/Burgundy SDL if I take a junker out of his backyard! At 01:59 PM 5/18/2007, you wrote: --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FL car was being offered for $9500 about 6 months ago. I think it must have a fatal flaw or two... It has the dreaded burgundy (maroon) interior. My high line car broker buddy, who travels to all the Mannheim auction around the US every month, always told me that a burgundy interior in a high line car was the kiss of death as far as a dealer was concerned. On average, he figured that it took 15% - 25% off the value of the vehicle. RM Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs
I was gonna say. I remember this one. (FLA one) Brian On 5/18/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FL car was being offered for $9500 about 6 months ago. I think it must have a fatal flaw or two... On 5/18/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both look nice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOTT-ITEM-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-300TD-STATIONWAGON_W0QQitemZ250114172405QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Starting bid seems high. He calls it a HOT ITEM is it stolen? LOL. And this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300TD-W124-TURBO-DIESEL-WAGON-7-SEATER-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ120121486860QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Florida car. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
Tow it a block or three, out of sight of the PO. Bring the seethrough filters, but also bring a couple of main filters. Change the filters, then drive it off. Having to tow it off will gain you more than the cost of the tow. Chances are it has algae in the tank. At 02:28 PM 5/18/2007, you wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I think so too. It should be pretty easy to diagnose in person. If the throttle linkage moves as I expect it to that'll rule that out. At 40mph (which she says is top speed) I should be able to notice the turbo right? This sounds just like my 300SD with a plugged see through filter. Take a couple with you, they are only $2 each. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Woot, 43mpg!
Give Wonko $10k for his Quantum, and you'll get 45 mpg instantly. At 02:25 PM 5/18/2007, you wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Oh, whoops, this is my '85 190D 2.2l 5spd manual. 43 is right about my target for my 190D if I ever assemble all the pieces. 2.3-16V chassis and tranny (slightly better aerodynamics than your 190D), 2.65 diff, 1:1 5th gear, 2.5 turbo. If I can get 42-45mpg at 55-65mph I'll be happy. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] Somebody must need this
Another GM 6.5 diesel truck http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/car/333439683.html wish I needed something like it, its cool. -Curt - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 18 20:55:14 2007 Received: from wsip-24-249-104-140.ks.ks.cox.net ([24.249.104.140] helo=mtsqhexc1.mtsqh.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hp9Tl-0002eN-5T for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 18 May 2007 20:55:14 + MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:53:10 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 1997 E300 Diesel Thread-Index: AceZjopLhGGiwMSnRuy2+oLvrzn1HA== From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] 1997 E300 Diesel X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 20:55:14 - I think the 96 and 97 210 diesels are not turbo charged. Are they SLOW since they don't have a turbo. I have never driven one. =20 =20 Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)=20
Re: [MBZ] 1997 E300 Diesel
Donald Snook wrote: I think the 96 and 97 210 diesels are not turbo charged. Are they SLOW since they don't have a turbo. I have never driven one. The hp rating on the 24v OM606 with variable intake tuning is 14x. The hp rating on the 12v OM603 turbo (1987 D and SDL) is 14x. The '87 W124 is a little quicker than the NA W210, but not by much. Mitch.
[MBZ] What's it worth?
What is a 97 E300 Diesel with 201,000 miles worth. Interior is perfect, exterior is VERY nice (except for lots of rock chips on front bumper - remainder of the paint looks great). MB tex interior cd changer and all the standard bells and whistles. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K For Sale http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344
Re: [MBZ] What's it worth?
$6000. On 5/18/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a 97 E300 Diesel with 201,000 miles worth. Interior is perfect, exterior is VERY nice (except for lots of rock chips on front bumper - remainder of the paint looks great). MB tex interior cd changer and all the standard bells and whistles. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K For Sale http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] What's it worth?
Did you check for rust as has been discussed before on this list? On 5/18/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $6000. On 5/18/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a 97 E300 Diesel with 201,000 miles worth. Interior is perfect, exterior is VERY nice (except for lots of rock chips on front bumper - remainder of the paint looks great). MB tex interior cd changer and all the standard bells and whistles. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K For Sale http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D
Actually looks a bit strange to me in that color; 'don't remember seeing any '77s that color Silver with a blue interior was all too common around here. The outright lie claiming 34mpg puts the whole thing in question. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] So where is Marshall
I hope he is alright. I think of him often. He is a good human. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So where is Marshall He is around, he has had some personal issues and been too busy to post. He placed an order with us on Tuesday. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] So where is Marshall Have not seen him on the list lately. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
