Re: [MBZ] Thrumming Gump
Fan is direct and newly installed when the water pump died a few months ago. Did a tighten up for the new alternator and belt a bit after that. Good wild guess Took her for a ten mile drive to replicate. Not able to get her to do it again. Might be related to the high rev buzz in the transmission. Going to drain and replace fluid and see if that impacts buzz and keeps thrum away as well. On May 19, 2007, at 7:01 PM, OK Don wrote: In the wild guess category - I'd look at the fan, viscous clutch to see if any thing is loose, bent, or broken. Does Gump have a viscous fan clutch or is it direct drive? I don't remember. On 5/19/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Was driving the kid back from the gym and while playing slug a bug, I noticed that there was a deep bass thrumming up front. Sounded a bunch like the noise the rear flex disk made. Went away at lower speeds but resonance came back. Not related to turning, hard to figure out if it was only speed or gear related. Got home and up on the ramps. Wiggle under and get coolant in the eye. THAT hurts! Seems one of the heat exchanger hoses was dead. Found some oil leakage around the oil pan. Grab the hex set and give each pan bolt a tweak back and then tight again. We will see how that works. Grovel around the bins of parts and snip off a bit of hose and install, then fill a few liters into the radiator. No leaking now. Got too dark to go on, so will have to tackle the thrumming. Anybody know or have a wild @$$ guess? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Parts including 4 spd manny for sale no Affiliation
Looks like something Jim Cathey needs to scoop up with the Mog. On May 19, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Don't know if this got through last night or not. It's a craigslist ad with some parts, including a 4 speed. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/332710870.html Brian -- Forwarded message -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 18, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Parts including 4 spd manny for sale no Affiliation To: mercedes@okiebenz.com http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/332710870.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Going to have to scrub the brake dust off, but seeing how the list hates chrome, I may end up selling them on CL. Gump was going to be so Stylin' with those wheels.. On May 19, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 5/19/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My taste isn't the best at times either. I always thought it would be great to have a Ferrari 400i with oxe blood interior and dark blue exterior or grey. Mind you, I'd take a dark blue interior too. :-) To me, the very worst thing you can do to a car is chrome the wheels. When I see chrome wheels, I gag, unless they are period correct on an old 50's car. I'm with you, Ed. Chrome wheels are tacky, just like nickel-plated guns. And the 400i is a beautiful car, never mind its horrible reputation (mostly due to the 3-speed GM automatic). Alex Chamberlain -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
On 5/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Going to have to scrub the brake dust off, but seeing how the list hates chrome, I may end up selling them on CL. Gump was going to be so Stylin' with those wheels.. Chrome you say? Mmm ... maybe we need pics so we can vote on them, ay? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
[MBZ] Plain wrapper cars [was: Re: no accounting for taste...]
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:27:50 -0500 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex C. wrote: Currently I am fantasizing about a Maserati Biturbo sedan that inexplicably showed up on a used-car lot. There is one of those here in Wichita. I didn't think they were very good cars. But, it is a cool idea. A plain wrapper super fast sedan. Something like the '64 Alfa Romeo Giulia Turissimo Internationale I had while in college. Datsun copied the body style, so everyone thought it was a Datsun. Lurking underneath the faded powder blue exterior, however, were a dual overhead cam and a 5-speed, along with a pretty good suspension for the time. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Mid May CL cars
A ferry ride and a trailer and you could haul it home. At that price it will be snapped up in a moment. Big eco freak contingent on the island. clay On May 20, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On 5/19/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the list up, and mothers day over, here are a few local rides you could add to your stable. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/334292468.html -- Ed Booher!!! Wow! Has not run in 20 years?! I wonder just how bad the floorpans are in this one. Not a 108, but still a classic, ay? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Web Links to mercedes Repair manuals
does anyone have web links to mercedes manuals on line. I had a link to the manual for my 87 190D, but changed computer and have lost the address. My father-in-law is working on a 1990 300D with the 2.5L turbo diesel. Had the turbo rebuilt, and now is in the process of checking oil lub system, no oil pressure. gauge has been checked and is working. Any help would be appriciated. Regards, Robert Massmann 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 270K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Join ISP.COM today - $8.95 internet , less than 1/2 the cost of AOL Try us out, http://www.isp.com/
Re: [MBZ] Mid May CL cars
On 5/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A ferry ride and a trailer and you could haul it home. At that price it will be snapped up in a moment. Big eco freak contingent on the island. That's a car I'd enjoy owning. Going to have to sell something, kidney maybe. :) Come out there and get it. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Will get a photo. Still trying to figure out who to cut the layers of dust without destroying the chrome. On May 20, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On 5/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Going to have to scrub the brake dust off, but seeing how the list hates chrome, I may end up selling them on CL. Gump was going to be so Stylin' with those wheels.. Chrome you say? Mmm ... maybe we need pics so we can vote on them, ay? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
On 5/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will get a photo. Still trying to figure out who to cut the layers of dust without destroying the chrome. Soap and elbow grease until you get down to where a chrome polish will help? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] 1987 190E 2.6
Perhaps the body of the vehicle's true owner, with dent made during the car-jacking? On 5/19/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there was a dent in the hood like something heavy had been dropped on it -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Parts including 4 spd manny for sale no Affiliation
I'm just wondering how difficult it would be to put the manual transmission into my 300SD. It sounds like it has everything I need, except the longer driveshaft, which I could probably dig up in a junkyard. I'm wondering if it would work at all, or would the considerable increase in weight kill that tranny? Chris On 5/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like something Jim Cathey needs to scoop up with the Mog. On May 19, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Don't know if this got through last night or not. It's a craigslist ad with some parts, including a 4 speed. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/332710870.html Brian -- Forwarded message -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 18, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Parts including 4 spd manny for sale no Affiliation To: mercedes@okiebenz.com http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/332710870.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Seems like there is pitting. I used a shop towel and water to wipe what came off easy, but there is heavy accumulations and I got a new wheel brush (garbage it turns out) and went to work. Brush self destructed. It was a combination bristle and scour with a nice handle. Just disintegrated. Going to wash what comes off easy and then use stiffer brush to see if I can cut it or rub the pitting off. On May 20, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On 5/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will get a photo. Still trying to figure out who to cut the layers of dust without destroying the chrome. Soap and elbow grease until you get down to where a chrome polish will help? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
The Insight actually did get better mileage on the highway. The Prius does not. I don't know about any of the others, because I think they have stopped really using hybrid technology to get better mileage. They seem to be leaning more toward a higher performance out of a smaller engine direction now. My brother has a 1999 or 2000 Insight and does get roughly 70 mpg on the highway without really doing anything. I almost wonder how tough it would be to buy the electronic/computer portions of a hybrid and pop it into my 300SD. I've certainly got room in the trunk for the batteries. Upgrade the brakes to use the regenerative braking, and drive. I'm sure it would be costly and more difficult than I could actually do, so I won't. Chris On 5/19/07, Ralph Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the cost of barrery replacement, take a look at http://hybridcars.about.com/od/hybridcarfaq/f/batterycost.htm which shows the batteries may cost $3000 and up to replace. As far as mpg's are concerned, I've heard and read the same as Kaleb is saying - hybrids excel at stop go city driving. Steady highway driving is better in a diesel but it doesn't get much press because of the wide-spread prejudice against diesels. As most on this list know, diesels get 25 to 30% better mileage than equivilent vehicles. If everyone converted to diesels we'd cut our need for oil by that same 25 - 30%. Of course, that's unlikely but it will help as more car companies bring diesels into the US. I believe Honda and Toyota are preparing to start selling them. BTW, did you know diesel is the primary product in refining oil? Back in the late 1800's gasoline was a by-product that had few uses until internal combustion engines were perfected. They had one of the veeps from Chevy on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me! doing the Not My Job part today, and he was talking about a concept car that Chevy plans on bringing to market shortly called the Volt. It will have roughly 40 mile range on batteries, and a small internal combustion engine that will take over after that. Granted, they're looking at a commuter style vehicle, as most of the hybrids are intended to be, but it sounds interesting. RM Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Aww man...
Yeah you're probably right. In fact I wonder a little if the battery might not be causing the problem we were having. The bike would run but would then periodically just quit, like you'd shut off the key. Run the bike more often (like ride it to work 2 days in a row) and it wouldn't do it for a few days. Ride it less and it'd do it 5 times in 5 miles I wonder if the battery would decide to not take a charge and heat the stator or something goofy. I'll still look for the short though Stoopid battery is only 2 years old. The one in my bike is the same age and is just fine. -Curt Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:33:19 -0700 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Aww man... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Put the charger on but it didn't seem like it was taking any charge. ...I think the deal is that the battery is too small for my charger to put much power in quickly. That's what batteries do when they're toast. -- Jim - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 21 00:28:58 2007 Received: from [208.3.80.17] (helo=mail.cnsp.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hpvli-00057y-RW for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 21 May 2007 00:28:58 + Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E3CD45B5B6 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 18:28:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cnsp.biz Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cnsp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wYKxMq9rwAzA for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 18:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-31.cnsp.net [208.3.82.31]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 412D3D45B5A7 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 18:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:28:52 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 190E 2.6 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 00:28:59 - On Sun, 20 May 2007 18:40:13 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the body of the vehicle's true owner, with dent made during the car-jacking? On 5/19/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there was a dent in the hood like something heavy had been dropped on it It was rather narrow and short, so I doubt that's it. Interesting theory, though. Craig
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Gaaak! When I bought my 240D a couple years ago I passed on 2 cars, one white with a blue interior that the guy wanted way too much money for. The other was white with a red interior and the ugliest thing I'd ever seen... Figured I'd have to get a white shoes and belt set if I was going to drive that thing. -Curt Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 21:24:06 -0400 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I -want- a car with red interior. I had my eye on an 88 Volvo 740 GLE wagon - silver with red leather interior. And a 5-speed manual. Looked GOOD. Too bad I didn't have the money to buy it when I saw it. - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 21 00:44:19 2007 Received: from [66.249.82.232] (helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hpw0Z-000656-PR for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 21 May 2007 00:44:19 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so128117wxd for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 20 May 2007 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.60.7 with SMTP id i7mr5162548wxa.1179708253593; Sun, 20 May 2007 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.7.1 with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2007 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 01:44:13 +0100 From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste... X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 00:44:20 - Figured I'd have to get a white shoes and belt set if I was going to drive that thing. -Curt Kind of a Herb Tarlek sort of set-up, yes? Sounds cool(not) Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
But wasn't the insight built shortly after the Civic VX (?) that got 70 mpg without the hybrid nonsense? Can't remember which model designation it was but they had a normal 90's Honda that got great mileage. Never could figure out why the US manufacturers insisted on keeping gutless 5.7 L engines with pollution controls when a Euro 2.0 L was just as quick with fewer pollutants...hmmm Jeff Zedic
[MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow...
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=2179309postcount=135 Thats just crazy... John
Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages
Jeff wrote:problem is the manufacturers and media, I think you're right about the meda - they have decided that diesel is the ultimate EVIL from which no good can ever come. And they have convinced CARB - which controls the largest concentrated auto market in the world that diesel is evil - that diesels good points are miniscule compared to the evils. And the worst part is they are basing their prejudice on the older technology like that found in my 78 240D. The newer common rail technology that was introduced in the late 80s IIRC is *much* cleaner than my car. And the technology that has been developed since the early 90s is cleaner than some hybrids. If only they would have asked *us* before they started passing all those stupid laws. ;-) Take care -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages Larry, I think if you saw everything on offer over here you'd wet yer pants!! Honestly!! Anything you want you can get in a diesel variant! The C class starts with the C220 CDI, then goes up but the 220 is plenty fast enoughevery day I drove by E220 CDi's, ML's, CLS's, G's ...almost every Ford, Chrysler, Land Rover, Jeep, Citroen, and on and on is a diesel! I feel for the guy I bought my Audi A4 diesel fromhe used to drive a Cherokee gas version and was getting 15 MPG with it and gas is $8 a gallon! Obviously more money than brains! It's infuriating to think that all these manufacturers seel bazillions of these cars over here and they think the US won't buy themhorseshit! Try getting a VW diesel anywhere right nowthey can't keep them on the lot! The problem is the manufacturers and media, NOT the public! Maybe I should become the next diesel anti-hero.hmmm.. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Currently I am fantasizing about a Maserati Biturbo sedan that inexplicably showed up on a used-car lot where I'm forced to look at it every day on the way to work. ;) Watch it, the early ones had wet sleeve problems, if it's an '84 or '85 with milky oil, run away. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Jeff Zedic wrote: I myself almost bought a Ferrari 400 when I got here. There was a nice blue one for six grand but it had an auto trans.no chance I'm going to buy an automatic Ferrari! Did you see the Top Gear episode on cheap Italian exotics? None of the professional motojournalists could find a 10,000 quid car that would complete the day's drive.
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Redghost wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Somebody chromed a set of 15 Bundts? (shudder)
Re: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow...
Ok, I've seen it all. The boys at work (semi maintenance) will LOVE these pictures. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=2179309postcount=135 Thats just crazy... John
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_6920.JPG Type: application/applefile Size: 52923 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070520/fdcda96b/attachment.bin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_6920.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1274955 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070520/fdcda96b/attachment.jpe -- next part -- On May 20, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Redghost wrote: Seems like there is pitting. I used a shop towel and water to wipe what came off easy, but there is heavy accumulations and I got a new wheel brush (garbage it turns out) and went to work. Brush self destructed. It was a combination bristle and scour with a nice handle. Just disintegrated. Going to wash what comes off easy and then use stiffer brush to see if I can cut it or rub the pitting off. On May 20, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On 5/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will get a photo. Still trying to figure out who to cut the layers of dust without destroying the chrome. Soap and elbow grease until you get down to where a chrome polish will help? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
YEP, you can send your scruffy bundts to Performance Products and get a set of shiny wheels back. Something like $400 for the pleasure clay On May 20, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Redghost wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Somebody chromed a set of 15 Bundts? (shudder) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Clay wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! . . . but seeing how the list hates chrome, I may end up selling them on CL. Gump was going to be so Stylin' with those wheels.. I agree with you. I like chrome wheels. It looks weird on some cars. But, in general I like chrome wheels. Donald H. Snook
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage
On my calculator, -- = 1.647, so it's about 65% better. You are right. How I came up with that percentage is beyond me. Which makes those gas engines of the period look even worse. The present 20% separation will be narrowed next year when MB's direct injection engines appear. They are a little late to the party, as usual. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] 190E 2.6
My 89 190 2.6 mileage was 20-28 on premium. Of course, it wasn't a rat. Rat? Which means it was a new car with no problems. Yet. Unlike an 18 year old version. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] 400 eye
My taste isn't the best at times either. I always thought it would be great to have a Ferrari 400i with oxe blood interior and dark blue exterior or grey. Mind you, I'd take a dark blue interior too. :-) To me, the very worst thing you can do to a car is chrome the wheels. When I see chrome wheels, I gag, unless they are period correct on an old 50's car. My nearly all Ferrari subscription issue of CAR showed up yesterday and they say the 400I was one of the two worst Ferraris ever. And that's saying something, considering the Mondial and one or two others. But, they are cheap. Initially. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Chromed wheels
My taste isn't the best at times either. I always thought it would be great to have a Ferrari 400i with ox blood interior and dark blue exterior or grey. Mind you, I'd take a dark blue interior too. :-) To me, the very worst thing you can do to a car is chrome the wheels. When I see chrome wheels, I gag, unless they are period correct on an old 50's car. I forgot to mention that my Obsidian black C320 has 17 chromed AMG monoblocks and looks quite good. So, better stay out of Seattle or lay in a supply of barf bags. And please, no busybody replies about chroming aluminum wheels, if you please. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] 109E 2.6
It will get about 19 city 22 highway. Does require premium. Then it needs something. I drove mine 80K miles and the range was 21-28. Two mpg better than my V-6 gets. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec
THAT's quite a change in tactics! Diesel engined cars have always been *more* expensive IIRC. Unfortunately, the CLS with diesel power is not offered here currently. Dieselizing the E, R or ML is a 1 grand upcharge. I am told that the 4.0 V-8 diesel will be offered in the GL next year. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Which diesel?
Unless it's a complete model change, I don't see why you'd wait a year for the bugs to be workes out. The ML270 CDI has been out for over 5 years here. That is not the V-6 Bluetec offered in the R, ML and E-Class. I think the only vehicle sold here with that engine is the Sprinter van. But, the Bluetec V-6 has been available in the W203 in the UK for two model years. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] 116 hybrid?
I almost wonder how tough it would be to buy the electronic/computer portions of a hybrid and pop it into my 300SD. I've certainly got room in the trunk for the batteries. Upgrade the brakes to use the regenerative braking, and drive. I'm sure it would be costly and more difficult than I could actually do, so I won't. Quite simple if you had the finances and engineering resources of Toyota available. I would think installing two standby rocket motors would be easier. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage
... next year when MB's direct injection engines appear. They are a little late to the party, as usual. The party that started in the 50's with the 300SL? Wasn't it DI gas? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
YEP, you can send your scruffy bundts to Performance Products and get a set of shiny wheels back. Something like $400 for the pleasure They will not accept chromed wheels as cores. Your 'pitting' looked an awful lot like bubbling from behind. That, I've seen. -- Jim
[MBZ] OT So that's ebay
We had our first ebay experience tonight. Decided to register with ebay and jump on and bid on a car as the auction was just about 15 min. from ending. We didn't plan to jump in at the last minute, just worked out that way. I'm sure it irritated some people, or maybe it happens all the time. Seems, though, that a number of people wait 'til within the last minute, maybe the last 5 or 10 seconds and just one-up any competitors. I imagine that there may be some people that know from experience that, based on their computer, and on the number of bidders, that they can put in their bid with, maybe 3 or 4 seconds left and leave anyone else unable to respond in time. Kinda harsh, but what should I have expected. Brian
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
On Sun, 20 May 2007 23:34:02 -0500 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I imagine that there may be some people that know from experience that, based on their computer, and on the number of bidders, that they can put in their bid with, maybe 3 or 4 seconds left and leave anyone else unable to respond in time. Kinda harsh, but what should I have expected. Yes, that's the way it works. It's called sniping. And there are web sites whose sole reason for existence is to snipe bid for you on eBay. You tell them the auction number, how much to snipe for, and how soon before the end of the auction to submit the bid. I usually do it manually, about 10 to 15 seconds before auction close. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage
So, what then does CDI mean as in 320CDI starting in 2005? On 5/20/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... next year when MB's direct injection engines appear. They are a little late to the party, as usual. The party that started in the 50's with the 300SL? Wasn't it DI gas? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Don't forget the other side of the coin is to know how much items go for, then troll everyday for an item with a buy it now. Occasionally you get lucky and pick up some item for much less than what it could end up being bid for. In your accounts area you can set up search for items of interest (don't forget misspellings) and get emailed each day. On May 20, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, that's the way it works. It's called sniping. John 1983 300TDt 378k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 190 Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Or you can put in your maxium bid amount and ebay will bid on your behalf until either you win the item or get outbid. Don't think the snipers have found a way around that yet. - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay Don't forget the other side of the coin is to know how much items go for, then troll everyday for an item with a
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
I bought some stuff on another auction site, not sure if it's still around..UBid.com. Their policy regarding bids was, once it got down to the last two minutes, any higher bid increased the length of the auction by ten minutes. Good for the seller, perhaps not so good for the buyer. Definitely a site where you'll want to just enter your maximum bid and see what happens. Part of the fun of eBay is the thrill of manually sniping! OOH, my jangled nerves! Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage
Common rail direct injection.it's been out here since 98. There's a new-ish gasoline injection system called FSI or something. Uses a direct injection principle I thinksupposed to improve fuel economy somewhatdon't know much about it but I see it around often. Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] Which diesel?
I was referring to ML's with a diesel engine, not necessarily a Bluetec one. I was saying to the original poster that he needn't worry as they've had diesel ML's for yonks over here. Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Yes Brian, That pretty much sums it all up Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay We had our first ebay experience tonight. Decided to register with ebay and jump on and bid on a car as the auction was just about 15 min. from ending. We didn't plan to jump in at the last minute, just worked out that way. I'm sure it irritated some people, or maybe it happens all the time. Seems, though, that a number of people wait 'til within the last minute, maybe the last 5 or 10 seconds and just one-up any competitors. I imagine that there may be some people that know from experience that, based on their computer, and on the number of bidders, that they can put in their bid with, maybe 3 or 4 seconds left and leave anyone else unable to respond in time. Kinda harsh, but what should I have expected. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 400 eye
I don't put a whole lot of stock in what mags say about any cars. The Mondial had in it, one of the best engines Ferrari ever made, and cared for, will do 200,000 miles. I think the 400 had a few things like ignition on the i, wiring etc, but I doubt no more so than an Aston or other similar car or that era. If you want to an example of how not to build a car, check out a Ferrari 348. Ed 300E On 20/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My taste isn't the best at times either. I always thought it would be great to have a Ferrari 400i with oxe blood interior and dark blue exterior or grey. Mind you, I'd take a dark blue interior too. :-) To me, the very worst thing you can do to a car is chrome the wheels. When I see chrome wheels, I gag, unless they are period correct on an old 50's car. My nearly all Ferrari subscription issue of CAR showed up yesterday and they say the 400I was one of the two worst Ferraris ever. And that's saying something, considering the Mondial and one or two others. But, they are cheap. Initially. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chromed wheels
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. To each his own. Ed 300E On 20/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My taste isn't the best at times either. I always thought it would be great to have a Ferrari 400i with ox blood interior and dark blue exterior or grey. Mind you, I'd take a dark blue interior too. :-) To me, the very worst thing you can do to a car is chrome the wheels. When I see chrome wheels, I gag, unless they are period correct on an old 50's car. I forgot to mention that my Obsidian black C320 has 17 chromed AMG monoblocks and looks quite good. So, better stay out of Seattle or lay in a supply of barf bags. And please, no busybody replies about chroming aluminum wheels, if you please. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
Donald wrote, in general I like chrome wheels. I believe it depends on the car they're on - but in general it's a personal thing whether chrome wheels are your cup of tea. But whether yoy like them or not, they're certainly much easier to keep clean. Not a detail kind of cleaning where each spoke is waxed and polished (I'm thinking wire wheels at the moment) but in general chrome can be rinsed with the hose and 99% of the dirt comes off. Non-chrome surfaces can have tiny crevices that collect stains and trash making them tough to clean. YMMV of course. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste... Clay wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! . . . but seeing how the list hates chrome, I may end up selling them on CL. Gump was going to be so Stylin' with those wheels.. I agree with you. I like chrome wheels. It looks weird on some cars. But, in general I like chrome wheels. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM
Re: [MBZ] 116 hybrid?
RLE wrote:installing two standby rocket motors would be easier LOL -- I knew that urban legend about the old Chevy with the JATO rockets going supersonic would come in handy someday! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 116 hybrid? I almost wonder how tough it would be to buy the electronic/computer portions of a hybrid and pop it into my 300SD. I've certainly got room in the trunk for the batteries. Upgrade the brakes to use the regenerative braking, and drive. I'm sure it would be costly and more difficult than I could actually do, so I won't. Quite simple if you had the finances and engineering resources of Toyota available. I would think installing two standby rocket motors would be easier. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM
Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage
So, what then does CDI mean as in 320CDI starting in 2005? I thought we were talking about gasoline. CDI is a common- rail DI engine. Those have a single high-pressure fuel supply rail and gate-valve injectors, solenoid actuated I believe. Those have been around awhile. The OM352 in my Unimog is direct injection. MB has made both DI and IDI engines forever. The solenoid control of a CDI engine allows for multiple small fuel pulses at idle, resulting in engines that idle nearly as quietly as gasoline engines. What they choose to sell in the USA is all about our charming marketdroids and not about the the technology. As a datapoint about the industry, it is useless. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood
You're right - it was a rarely chosen but available option. On 5/20/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inform me on the instances in which leather seats could be found in MBs. The car in question is an 85 190D. I'm looking at the photo and it struck me that it actually looks like leather more than MBtex. I realize it's not very common. Just wondering. I'm attaching a photo. Brian -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Blue190SeatShot.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 100879 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070520/62bb8dfc/attachment.jpeg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood
that's definitely blue leather seats in a manual tranny diesel benz. struggling to keep it in my pants, Sunil. On 5/21/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right - it was a rarely chosen but available option. On 5/20/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inform me on the instances in which leather seats could be found in MBs. The car in question is an 85 190D. I'm looking at the photo and it struck me that it actually looks like leather more than MBtex. I realize it's not very common. Just wondering. I'm attaching a photo. Brian -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Blue190SeatShot.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 100879 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070520/62bb8dfc/attachment.jpeg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow...
Now I have to build a reciever hitch and tow the car trailer with the TD..I wonder how the hydraulic suspension would handle it Maybe an equalizer hitch and electric brakes is all I would need...LOLOLOL Mike - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow... http://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=2179309postcount=135 Thats just crazy... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...
On 5/20/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: Currently I am fantasizing about a Maserati Biturbo sedan that inexplicably showed up on a used-car lot where I'm forced to look at it every day on the way to work. ;) Watch it, the early ones had wet sleeve problems, if it's an '84 or '85 with milky oil, run away. Mitch. This one turned out to be an '86 with clunky three-speed auto. :( Anyway, if I were going to get a boxy '80s Italian sedan it'd be an Alfa Milano. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood
On 5/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's definitely blue leather seats in a manual tranny diesel benz. struggling to keep it in my pants, Sunil. ROFL! My reaction exactly. I'll fight you for it! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
On 5/21/07, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought some stuff on another auction site, not sure if it's still around..UBid.com. Their policy regarding bids was, once it got down to the last two minutes, any higher bid increased the length of the auction by ten minutes. Good for the seller, perhaps not so good for the buyer. Definitely a site where you'll want to just enter your maximum bid and see what happens. I've always said that's how eBay should work, rather than the current system, which just encourages sniping. eBay's official policy is Enter the maximum you're willing to pay for the item, sit back, and let us bid for you. But that's just inherently broken. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
Re: [MBZ] Leather Likelihood
Are you guys kidding, or serious? just wondering. Yesterday, it was painful when I brought up this car - 190D 5 spd. - and this time my wife was onboard. The normal-looking carfax (thank you Kaleb) reassured her, and the leather intrigued her. I got the effective go-ahead to pursue. We clicked on the ad, and found out that it was sold! AAhhhww! Brian On 5/21/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/21/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's definitely blue leather seats in a manual tranny diesel benz. struggling to keep it in my pants, Sunil. ROFL! My reaction exactly. I'll fight you for it! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always said that's how eBay should work, rather than the current system, which just encourages sniping. eBay's official policy is Enter the maximum you're willing to pay for the item, sit back, and let us bid for you. But that's just inherently broken. Yep, it should be like a real auction where you keep taking bids as long as they are coming in. The seller gets the best price that way, and if a buyer *really* wants an item he just has to outlast everyone else, not be lucky and get his bid in 0.01 seconds before the auction ends. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
I'll have to investigate how this bid on your behalf option works. How often does it bid I wonder, and in what increments? If it's not fast enough, it won't work in the final 15 sec. frenzy. Brian On 5/21/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you can put in your maxium bid amount and ebay will bid on your behalf until either you win the item or get outbid. Don't think the snipers have found a way around that yet. - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay Don't forget the other side of the coin is to know how much items go for, then troll everyday for an item with a ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll have to investigate how this bid on your behalf option works. How often does it bid I wonder, and in what increments? If it's not fast enough, it won't work in the final 15 sec. frenzy. Based on what I've seen, any time a bid is made, anyone else who has already entered a higher maximum bid will instantly have a bid placed on his behalf. I think it happens more or less instantly. I've entered bids on items, and been immediately informed you've been outbid. I'm not sure how they'd break a tie of two bidders with the same maximum, probably by whoever placed it first. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT Biodiesel Pimp Impala
Owh, man, they just put something on an old VW bus that I some of us dieselers need! It's a stop sign-shaped sign that swings out (school bus style) and shows the tailgater the word CHILL. Man, I want that. Brian On 5/21/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay Rich, your accusation has, I'm afraid, become true with time. I think I am actually starting to like the show Pimp My Ride. I am not to the point of seeking it out, but when I see it, now I pause. It is usually pretty satisfying to see the old cars made so new - I think that satifies a deep yearning in all car lovers. And they actually do some pretty amazing feats to those cars. For what it's worth, they did up an '80s S class the other day. Brian so confused Rich wrote: PS you don't have to apologize for watching the show flipping past yeah right!!! You know and we all know you were watching it... --R On 4/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That diesel guy Gale Banks is building some serious race motors, first one is going to be in a truck. He has detuned it to put out 5-600hp or so, 6-700 lbft if I recall. He believes diesels will be the next revolution in hot rodding given the reliable power/torque outputs possible over a broad RPM range, much better than gassers for the price. One of the Sunday shows last week had a long interview on it. Seems reasonable, would be kinda fun to drop a tuned diesel in some old car. Seems though the problem would be putting it to the ground with street tires, but I guess it would be possible. Was the Impala donked? PS you don't have to apologize for watching the show flipping past yeah right!!! You know and we all know you were watching it... --R Zoltan Finks wrote: Flipping past MTV2 I saw that the Pimp My Ride crew were standing in front of a biodiesel pump talking of its virtues. He then fueled up a late '60s Impala with it and headed to the 1/4 mile track where he beat some little Lamborghini. Didn't post his time though. Turns out he has a 6.6 liter Duramax with a PPE Turbo charger (or two?). Claims some 6 or 8 hundred h.p. with some 1400 lb. ft. And claims a 0 - 60 time of 3.5 seconds. Wonder how much better he could do performace-wise on dino? And if he removed all the TVs and stereo equipment from the trunk. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT Biodiesel Pimp Impala
Okay Rich, your accusation has, I'm afraid, become true with time. I think I am actually starting to like the show Pimp My Ride. I am not to the point of seeking it out, but when I see it, now I pause. It is usually pretty satisfying to see the old cars made so new - I think that satifies a deep yearning in all car lovers. And they actually do some pretty amazing feats to those cars. For what it's worth, they did up an '80s S class the other day. Brian so confused Rich wrote: PS you don't have to apologize for watching the show flipping past yeah right!!! You know and we all know you were watching it... --R On 4/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That diesel guy Gale Banks is building some serious race motors, first one is going to be in a truck. He has detuned it to put out 5-600hp or so, 6-700 lbft if I recall. He believes diesels will be the next revolution in hot rodding given the reliable power/torque outputs possible over a broad RPM range, much better than gassers for the price. One of the Sunday shows last week had a long interview on it. Seems reasonable, would be kinda fun to drop a tuned diesel in some old car. Seems though the problem would be putting it to the ground with street tires, but I guess it would be possible. Was the Impala donked? PS you don't have to apologize for watching the show flipping past yeah right!!! You know and we all know you were watching it... --R Zoltan Finks wrote: Flipping past MTV2 I saw that the Pimp My Ride crew were standing in front of a biodiesel pump talking of its virtues. He then fueled up a late '60s Impala with it and headed to the 1/4 mile track where he beat some little Lamborghini. Didn't post his time though. Turns out he has a 6.6 liter Duramax with a PPE Turbo charger (or two?). Claims some 6 or 8 hundred h.p. with some 1400 lb. ft. And claims a 0 - 60 time of 3.5 seconds. Wonder how much better he could do performace-wise on dino? And if he removed all the TVs and stereo equipment from the trunk. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Question for list about 300TD fixer
Check out this listing (someone else posted it here last week also): http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140119061737 Scroll down to the photos, there is a picture of the center console showing a yellow rocker switch. Is that something that is factory? Looks a bit out-of-place. Also I note that the center pushbutton on the ACC is missing. Also it looks like something had been mounted to the passenger side of the transmission hump -- old-style car phone maybe? I think the only sane approach to bidding on this is to assume that the motor is trashed. So what's the rest of the car worth? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] CDI?
So, what then does CDI mean as in 320CDI starting in 2005? Common-rail direct injection. But, we are talking about gasoline direct injection here. And those '05 diesels for the US market were not Bluetec technology. There was a C320 V-6 Bluetec sold in the UK about that time, according to an enthusiastic road test article in Mercedes Enthusiast. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Question for list about 300TD fixer
The yellow rocker switch is definitely an aftermarket switch some hack put in the console. RM Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: [MBZ] 300SL DI?
... next year when MB's direct injection engines appear. They are a little late to the party, as usual. The party that started in the 50's with the 300SL? Wasn't it DI gas? The 300SL was the first gasoline FI but if you can quote a reliable source that says it injected into the combustion chamber, I'd like to read it. I can't find one. In any case, today's gas DI increases power and torque while reducing consumption and emissions. Look at the numbers regarding the new Cayenne V-8 DI engine as just one example. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Question for list about 300TD fixer
Ralph Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The yellow rocker switch is definitely an aftermarket switch some hack put in the console. Seems this car has evidence of a lot of hacking: radio shack switches in the console, cheap paint job, broken motor... I'm starting to think there's probably a lot of things wrong with this car. If nothing else probably all the regular maintenance has been neglected. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow...
John should submit his photo as an entry in the world's strongest diesel passenger car contest. On 5/21/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I have to build a reciever hitch and tow the car trailer with the TD..I wonder how the hydraulic suspension would handle it Maybe an equalizer hitch and electric brakes is all I would need...LOLOLOL Mike - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow... http://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=2179309postcount=135 Thats just crazy... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CDI?
My bad.now back to our discussion about gas direct injection engines. On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what then does CDI mean as in 320CDI starting in 2005? Common-rail direct injection. But, we are talking about gasoline direct injection here. And those '05 diesels for the US market were not Bluetec technology. There was a C320 V-6 Bluetec sold in the UK about that time, according to an enthusiastic road test article in Mercedes Enthusiast. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Off-Topic NON-MB crack user
This seller says his 1990 Oldsmobile Toronado with 250,000 miles is in #1 show condition and was appraised for $13,500. Only a crack smoker would think that, but how much crack do you have to smoke to not even include a picture of your supposed #1 Show winner. Ebay item # 120123311370 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-show-conditon-great-driver-smooth-ride- all-orig_W0QQitemZ120123311370QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31865QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Yes - the earliest time stamp on equal bids. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll have to investigate how this bid on your behalf option works. How often does it bid I wonder, and in what increments? If it's not fast enough, it won't work in the final 15 sec. frenzy. Based on what I've seen, any time a bid is made, anyone else who has already entered a higher maximum bid will instantly have a bid placed on his behalf. I think it happens more or less instantly. I've entered bids on items, and been immediately informed you've been outbid. I'm not sure how they'd break a tie of two bidders with the same maximum, probably by whoever placed it first. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap 126 gasser
No affiliation looks ok, its cheap. Item # 160119697832 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GARAGE-KEPT_W0QQitemZ160119697832QQihZ006 QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)
[MBZ] Here's a liar on ebay
This lying seller says he has a 84 123 that routinely gets 34-36 mpg. Makes me wonder whether any of the ad is true. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-Mercedes-Benz-300D-DIESEL-NO-RESERVE _W0QQitemZ200112133952QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem He also says it does not have a turbo. Is that true? I thought by 84 all the 300D's had turbos. Check out the pics, the car looks nice, but somebody has definitely used the silver spray paint on the engine - look at the air filter housing. All this makes me think this guy is trying too hard to hide something. The sad thing is, the car LOOKS really nice. But, if you can't trust the seller, the car is probably questionable. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K
[MBZ] Drool . . . WOW! What a nice car!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-Mercedes-300D-Turbo-Diesel-105K-Actu al-Miles-NR_W0QQitemZ230132200578QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZView Item Ebay item # 230132200578 Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:34 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** Due to the Federal government holiday on Monday of next week, the retail diesel prices will be released on Tuesday by 5:00 P.M. (Eastern standard time). The data will still represent Monday's prices. On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 070521 2.803 2.798 2.884 2.873 2.758 2.773 2.747 2.993 2.921 2.955 070514 2.773 2.758 2.866 2.843 2.711 2.740 2.713 2.998 2.919 2.952 070507 2.792 2.781 2.874 2.867 2.735 2.754 2.744 2.995 2.935 2.974 070430 2.811 2.800 2.871 2.873 2.762 2.775 2.766 2.988 2.952 2.987 070423 2.851 2.837 2.864 2.877 2.817 2.831 2.815 2.978 2.953 3.004 070416 2.877 2.862 2.871 2.885 2.852 2.864 2.849 2.981 2.956 3.015 070409 2.840 2.813 2.821 2.852 2.796 2.835 2.810 2.951 2.921 2.978 070402 2.790 2.764 2.786 2.820 2.739 2.780 2.766 2.884 2.885 2.939 070326 2.676 2.657 2.713 2.711 2.630 2.655 2.643 2.780 2.803 2.869 070319 2.681 2.661 2.722 2.719 2.631 2.666 2.640 2.765 2.813 2.875 070312 2.685 2.669 2.730 2.719 2.643 2.673 2.644 2.736 2.811 2.899 070305 2.626 2.604 2.693 2.668 2.568 2.606 2.587 2.658 2.795 2.897 070226 2.551 2.526 2.650 2.598 2.483 2.523 2.497 2.568 2.790 2.911 070219 2.491 2.479 2.636 2.581 2.421 2.444 2.418 2.517 2.784 2.901 070212 2.476 2.465 2.625 2.564 2.408 2.429 2.394 2.517 2.777 2.905 070205 2.435 2.433 2.593 2.527 2.378 2.377 2.360 2.523 2.720 2.825 070129 2.413 2.406 2.570 2.508 2.347 2.349 2.347 2.556 2.687 2.761 070122 2.430 2.421 2.582 2.525 2.361 2.371 2.361 2.586 2.695 2.742 070115 2.463 2.437 2.622 2.559 2.368 2.408 2.391 2.625 2.749 2.773 070108 2.537 2.520 2.672 2.633 2.458 2.483 2.459 2.682 2.824 2.856 070101 2.580 2.565 2.710 2.681 2.503 2.534 2.500 2.697 2.853 2.883 061225 2.596 2.587 2.737 2.710 2.520 2.550 2.514 2.713 2.856 2.885 061218 2.606 2.599 2.730 2.722 2.535 2.555 2.519 2.716 2.887 2.917 061211 2.621 2.610 2.749 2.730 2.546 2.563 2.540 2.724 2.931 2.963 061204 2.618 2.610 2.716 2.717 2.555 2.578 2.537 2.707 2.860 2.860 061127 2.567 2.537 2.634 2.652 2.479 2.554 2.490 2.680 2.760 2.710 061120 2.553 2.521 2.625 2.638 2.461 2.554 2.469 2.647 2.724 2.690 061113 2.552 2.530 2.616 2.643 2.473 2.562 2.470 2.623 2.673 2.677 061106 2.506 2.508 2.613 2.628 2.448 2.493 2.449 2.577 2.606 2.637 061030 2.517 2.530 2.629 2.646 2.472 2.501 2.462 2.577 2.602 2.645 061023 2.524 2.537 2.636 2.651 2.480 2.502 2.477 2.563 2.628 2.669 061016 2.503 2.521 2.623 2.636 2.462 2.459 2.461 2.539 2.655 2.703 061009 2.506 2.533 2.649 2.654 2.471 2.448 2.446 2.584 2.697 2.751 061002 2.546 2.567 2.678 2.694 2.503 2.467 2.490 2.679 2.789 2.835 060925 2.595 2.600 2.730 2.746 2.526 2.506 2.526 2.827 2.892 2.910 060918 2.713 2.699 2.832 2.844 2.625 2.624 2.636 3.052 3.014 3.002 060911 2.857 2.826 2.955 2.958 2.757 2.787 2.770 3.236 3.137 3.125 060904 2.967 2.911 3.009 3.032 2.850 2.937 2.872 3.318 3.199 3.175 060828 3.027 2.955 3.035 3.074 2.897 3.026 2.923 3.346 3.229 3.200 060821 3.033 2.953
Re: [MBZ] Here's a liar on ebay
Where to begin?? the were no non-turbo's in 84 so the engine has been replaced by some cheap bastard. Looks like the guy spent at least $20 in silver spray paint in the engine compartment. News to me that MB OM617.95X blow head gaskets as a matter of course.or that the turbo is expensive to replaceseems like he's scare-mongering to justify the dog non-turbo engine he put in by mistake. I think the term, run away screaming applies here. Don't forget that you would normally pay extra for that 12V power outlet.nice respray though Jeff Zedic
