Re: [MBZ] R320 CDI
I saw an R400 in the flesh for the first time a couple of months ago. I did a double take because it looked so much like a Pacifica I could not believe they would gussie up a Chrysler and sell it as an MB. John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, the R is based on the E Class platform. The Pacifica is an upgrade of the Chrysler mini-van. On 6/24/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son has an 07 R320 CDI; one FINE machine. 'May be same concept as Pacifica, but it's no Pacifica - doesn't even look like one. R320 CDI has no Pacifica parts and is very streamlined - obviously MB; Pacifica is boxy and Chrysler-looking. Wilton -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD
Yep, serious. All I had to do was ask the question, and the girl appeared. On 6/24/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: It's a rodbender, indeed. And I don't think it was a certain US batch of them that bent rods; I'm 99% sure that it was a MB parts specification issue on the rods and they all bent. But DROOL indeed, it's the only one I'd even think about buying. Me: It doesn't have airbags Girlfriend: It doesn't -need- airbags. It's a tank! On 6/23/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think...this might be the good 350. Marshall, can you confirm or deny this? Luther All the original 3.5 liter engines were rodbenders no matter what use they were put to. The replacement engine were FINE. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
I cleaned off the vacuum pump in the solvent tank, that took a lot of scrubbing! (It's a lot cheaper than using brake cleaner, which is for the things that can't make it to the tank.) I did use brake cleaner to sluice off the solvent at the end, but that doesn't take much. I squirted a bit of oil into the bearings, then installed the vacuum pump, I reused its (paper) gasket. It's much easier to put the pump on if you rotate the engine to a low point in the pump's cam cycle. That was so much fun I then vacuumed off the injector area and used brake cleaner to clean off the worst of the gunk. I vacuumed out the intake ports, and used fingers and rags to try to get off the worst of the caked-on EGR slime. That was messy. I then used a screwdriver to wedge the throttle on all the way and cranked the engine. I got little fuel fountains out of all (I think) of the injector ports on the IP. I'd wanted to do that to make sure it was primed, and to make sure to blow out any junk that might have gotten down in there. I used brake cleaner to hose out the injectors themselves. The valve cover and its gasket then made the trip to the solvent tank. The gasket, once cleaned with a scrub brush, seemed very good and was still quite pliable. I installed the valve cover using the old gasket. Another quick round of brake cleaner followed to clean off the solvent, etc. I'm down to my last can of the case, and am trying to conserve. The engine's starting to look pretty good! I laid rags over the intake ports and the injection pump to keep out dust. I think it's just about time to make a parts order, I need an intake manifold gasket, the rubber blowby manifold parts, the injection line clips and bumpers, and two brake reservoir grommets. Does anybody have a photograph or description of how the manual transmission 601/602's throttle damper attaches? Craig sent me a nice picture from a 617, but it turns out that it's completely different on this 602. I think that I might be missing a bracket or something that carries the upper stationary ball joint. I didn't see any place to put a ball joint on the IP body itself. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
All before breakfast, I am sure. I think it's just about time to make a parts order, I need an intake manifold gasket, the rubber blowby manifold parts, the injection line clips and bumpers, and two brake reservoir grommets. If you find the bumpers, let me know. When I called Buy MB Parts to order all the injector line clips, bumpers and brackets, Tom said the bumpers for my car (190DT) were NLA. If you come up with a suitable alternative, (inner tube?) let me/us know also. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you find the bumpers, let me know. When I called Buy MB Parts to order all the injector line clips, bumpers and brackets, Tom said the bumpers for my car (190DT) were NLA. If you come up with a suitable alternative, (inner tube?) let me/us know also. Inner tube and Shoe Goo, maybe. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunils' GF was '92 350GD
Yep, serious. All I had to do was ask the question, and the girl appeared. Congratulations... Funny how that works. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD
Sunil Hari wrote: Yep, serious. All I had to do was ask the question, and the girl appeared. You met her on your own, or the parents found her for you? Seems like they were looking to take an active roll in the matter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD
found this one on my own. and oh, my parents hate her. oh yes they do. On 6/25/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Yep, serious. All I had to do was ask the question, and the girl appeared. You met her on your own, or the parents found her for you? Seems like they were looking to take an active roll in the matter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD
Sunil, What was the question you asked that made the girl appear? You have a genie locked in the closet? Take care, Chuck On Jun 25, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: found this one on my own. and oh, my parents hate her. oh yes they do. On 6/25/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Yep, serious. All I had to do was ask the question, and the girl appeared. You met her on your own, or the parents found her for you? Seems like they were looking to take an active roll in the matter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. ALSO: the seller brought me a quart of Lubro Moly ATF III. I've been adding regular old Mercon/Dexron III that I got from the Shell station. Can I mix it? The Lubro Moly bottle says it's mineral based. Brian 87 190D On 6/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the correct dipstick. It can be low and still shift fine. Zoltan Finks wrote: Okay, now that I am happily home with the new-to-us 87 190D (and have my computer set up so I can email now) I naturally could use some input on some questions - the impatient may delete. Is the sunroof not supposed to open all the way on these smaller cars? It slides back but looks like it should open about 6 or 7 inches more. Is that all the farther it's supposed to open? The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to explain this away in lame fashion, saying that when the engine is cold, and engine is shut off, that that is when the level should read correctly (which it does). Fortunately, there was the operator's manual present in the glovebox, and I was able to prove him wrong in black and white. He insisted on holding that he was correct though. I added one pint to be conservative (before I realized that I may have the wrong dipstick. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
On 6/25/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. Better too low than too high! (Just like engine oil on diesels.) BTW, Brian, I noticed this weekend while checking _my_ tranny fluid that the part number on my 124's dipstick also starts with 126---same part for all 60x engines, maybe. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
If you don't know what is in the tranny, or how old it is, I'd suggest you drain it all out, change the filter, and refill with M1 ATF. Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. ALSO: the seller brought me a quart of Lubro Moly ATF III. I've been adding regular old Mercon/Dexron III that I got from the Shell station. Can I mix it? The Lubro Moly bottle says it's mineral based. Brian 87 190D -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ,92 600SEL
OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV. No interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename= STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 - not for me, but for my darling wife. 98k miles and I am sure everything is just like they say - near showroom... OK, I'm not that gullible. I also notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago. Wonder what happened? The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car. Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd jump on it - and probably regret it later. BillR Jacksonville FL: 1981 300SD 290k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD
dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here On 6/25/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil, What was the question you asked that made the girl appear? You have a genie locked in the closet? Take care, Chuck On Jun 25, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: found this one on my own. and oh, my parents hate her. oh yes they do. On 6/25/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Yep, serious. All I had to do was ask the question, and the girl appeared. You met her on your own, or the parents found her for you? Seems like they were looking to take an active roll in the matter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
Yes, I agree - I don't know when I'll have time though - crazy times. I just added another pint and now at least the thing reads on the stick. Seems to be about 1 1/2 quarts low - that is is the distance between the top line and the bottom line is one pint, and if it reads accordingly all the way down the stick. Brian 87 190D On 6/25/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't know what is in the tranny, or how old it is, I'd suggest you drain it all out, change the filter, and refill with M1 ATF. Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. ALSO: the seller brought me a quart of Lubro Moly ATF III. I've been adding regular old Mercon/Dexron III that I got from the Shell station. Can I mix it? The Lubro Moly bottle says it's mineral based. Brian 87 190D -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
Okay, that's good to know. guess the fluid was just way low for some reason. I'm cringing to know that I drove it so far that way. The odds are against the poor tranny to start with, what with the 267k mi. Brian On 6/25/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/25/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. Better too low than too high! (Just like engine oil on diesels.) BTW, Brian, I noticed this weekend while checking _my_ tranny fluid that the part number on my 124's dipstick also starts with 126---same part for all 60x engines, maybe. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
BillR, I had that dream too and then I came across this. Now it's a nightmare. As an example, looks like it takes 3 hours to change out the oil filter if you don't break something in the process. http://v12uberalles.com/ On 6/25/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV. No interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename= STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 - not for me, but for my darling wife. 98k miles and I am sure everything is just like they say - near showroom... OK, I'm not that gullible. I also notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago. Wonder what happened? The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car. Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd jump on it - and probably regret it later. BillR Jacksonville FL: 1981 300SD 290k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Question: Does the rule apply here as it does with my 240D - the one that says do not add engine oil until the level gets down to the add mark (in other words, don't add when it's half way between the full and add marks?) Now I have another thing to turn more hair grey. When I start the engine, I hear the tappets knock (hope that's good terminology for a diesel). And the oil gauge takes a lot longer than I want to respond - maybe some five seconds. When the gauge does respond, the engine idle slows a bit maybe, and the tappet noise lessens. Now, I notice that there seems to be a tappet noise constantly as it idles in my driveway. Unless it's an exhaust leak, but I doubt it. I'll drive it and see how long it persists - maybe is lessening as the engine warms up? I appreciate all advice here - these are big questions in my mind as I hope this is not a lemon. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] another lost subject line, and wildly Off-Topic (was: Re: '92 350GD)
what's for your parents to not like about a 350GD? folks; is it really too much effort to keep subject lines at least *vaguely* relevant to the message content? cheers! e Sunil Hari wrote: found this one on my own. and oh, my parents hate her. oh yes they do. On 6/25/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You met her on your own, or the parents found her for you? Seems like they were looking to take an active roll in the matter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
Zoltan Finks wrote: Yes, I agree - I don't know when I'll have time though - crazy times. I just added another pint and now at least the thing reads on the stick. Seems to be about 1 1/2 quarts low - that is is the distance between the top line and the bottom line is one pint, and if it reads accordingly all the way down the stick. The distance between the ADD and MAX line on the engine oil dipstick of OM60x engines is 2 liters (2.114 qt). That's from the 1988 TDM and covers cars from 85-thru '89. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Zoltan Finks wrote: Question: Does the rule apply here as it does with my 240D - the one that says do not add engine oil until the level gets down to the add mark (in other words, don't add when it's half way between the full and add marks?) Now I have another thing to turn more hair grey. When I start the engine, I hear the tappets knock (hope that's good terminology for a diesel). And the oil gauge takes a lot longer than I want to respond - maybe some five seconds. When the gauge does respond, the engine idle slows a bit maybe, and the tappet noise lessens. Now, I notice that there seems to be a tappet noise constantly as it idles in my driveway. Unless it's an exhaust leak, but I doubt it. I'll drive it and see how long it persists - maybe is lessening as the engine warms up? I appreciate all advice here - these are big questions in my mind as I hope this is not a lemon. Are you using Mobil 1 oil (at least 5W40 or 15W-50 - NOT 0W40)? Have you replaced the two O rings on the oil filter cap stem recently (they last about 20-30 kmi)? If the answer to both of the above is yes, then your engine is worn and you MIGHT want to consider lifter replacement of any that are TESTED and shown to be bad. If the car isn't driven or run for a long lime, lifter noise will usually be louder until the engine is run at 2000+ rpm for 5 minutes or so. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
Thanks John - that is exactly what I need to see. I had suspected, and this illustrates, that such a vehicle [$128 - 138k new ?] was meant for folks with live-in mechanics or DEEP pockets, neither of which I have. As I can only do the really simple stuff myself at this point [changing out the rear lock actuators was about the limit for me] I have to view doing that stuff at $85 an hour. I have a good mechanic, but even so That is one car I suspect is best kept as a dream and not turned into a nightmare. Now if I should win the lottery... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL BillR, I had that dream too and then I came across this. Now it's a nightmare. As an example, looks like it takes 3 hours to change out the oil filter if you don't break something in the process. http://v12uberalles.com/ On 6/25/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV. No interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename= STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 - not for me, but for my darling wife. 98k miles and I am sure everything is just like they say - near showroom... OK, I'm not that gullible. I also notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago. Wonder what happened? The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car. Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd jump on it - and probably regret it later. BillR Jacksonville FL: 1981 300SD 290k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Zoltan Finks wrote: Now, I notice that there seems to be a tappet noise constantly as it idles in my driveway. Unless it's an exhaust leak, but I doubt it. I'll drive it and see how long it persists - maybe is lessening as the engine warms up? Synthetic Mobil1 is supposed to fix that. May take a few oil changes to fix it though. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
On a 1992 600SEL it takes 15 minutes to RR the oil filter including removing the Air Filter Box, MAF and finding the Mercedes oil filter wrench/socket. Changed plugs today - 30 minutes. Back is screaming in pain from being bent over the motor. I KNOW that isn't on my list of rehab exercises from the doctor. As long as I can stand straight by the time the wife gets home from work I'm golden. Changed the transmission filter last week. That took two hours. An hour longer than normal. Got stuck on the ground and couldn't get up. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL BillR, I had that dream too and then I came across this. Now it's a nightmare. As an example, looks like it takes 3 hours to change out the oil filter if you don't break something in the process. http://v12uberalles.com/ On 6/25/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV. No interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename = STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 - not for me, but for my darling wife. 98k miles and I am sure everything is just like they say - near showroom... OK, I'm not that gullible. I also notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago. Wonder what happened? The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car. Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd jump on it - and probably regret it later. BillR Jacksonville FL: 1981 300SD 290k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
Nice cars. We have one. Amazing car. The motor has 402 hp not 386. It goes from 0-60 in 6 seconds. In town it needs to be driven in 3rd else the motor never gets over 1300rpm and carbons up the motor. Unfortunately the carbon gets into the oil system and plugs one of the touchy lifters. Sea Foam seems to have cleared it up. Car has Bio-degradeable wiring harness's under the hood as well as the ETA that have potentiometer issues as well. Depending on where the car lived you may or may not need an evaporator. In addition to the wiring at 99kmi plan on doing the rear accumulators, trans filter and hoses. At 125kmi start planning on doing the timing chain, valve stem seals and guides. Oh yeah pulling away from a Red Light when it goes green STILL puts a smile on my face. It's the 70's all over again but with air bags and ABS. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:07 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV. No interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagenam e= STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 - not for me, but for my darling wife. 98k miles and I am sure everything is just like they say - near showroom... OK, I'm not that gullible. I also notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago. Wonder what happened? The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car. Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd jump on it - and probably regret it later. BillR Jacksonville FL: 1981 300SD 290k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
--- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here Funny story: Was in D.C. on business some years back. Took the family along to make a working vacation of it. Walking down the steps into the Metro station on Columbus Circle, my youngest (about 4-5 years old at the time) sees some Sikh guys in their native headdresses and shouts out, MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My response: I think they're having a convention here this week. grin Dan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] another lost subject line, and wildly Off-Topic (was: Re: '92 350GD)
ernest breakfield wrote: what's for your parents to not like about a 350GD? Sunil's parents? It's not a Honda or Toyota, of course. Nor is it less than ten years old. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
LWB250 wrote: MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My nephew did something like that, except the turbaned one was in the company of a man my brother knew and idolized. Little Lee said why is that man wearing a towel on his head? I think Fred Bear got a kick out of it. No idea what his foreign companion thought. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Brian, Your 190D should have a sensor to tell you when the oil is low. On mine its still above the add line when the light comes on. Since its a new to you car you probably don't know if the light works or not so keep an eye on it at first. But yeah, don't add until it NEEDS it. My 190D made hellacious tappet noise when I first got it, noisier than my 240D. Now after 30,000 miles of Mobil 1 15w50 its really very quiet. Change the oil ASAP and get some sample kits from Larry. Sampling will tell you whats going on in the engine. Mine 190D was way badly sludged up when I first got it. Early samples had way high iron levels. Samples now are normal. -Curt Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:40:26 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Question: Does the rule apply here as it does with my 240D - the one that says do not add engine oil until the level gets down to the add mark (in other words, don't add when it's half way between the full and add marks?) Now I have another thing to turn more hair grey. When I start the engine, I hear the tappets knock (hope that's good terminology for a diesel). And the oil gauge takes a lot longer than I want to respond - maybe some five seconds. When the gauge does respond, the engine idle slows a bit maybe, and the tappet noise lessens. Now, I notice that there seems to be a tappet noise constantly as it idles in my driveway. Unless it's an exhaust leak, but I doubt it. I'll drive it and see how long it persists - maybe is lessening as the engine warms up? I appreciate all advice here - these are big questions in my mind as I hope this is not a lemon. Brian 87 190D - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] droolworthy
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/359684556.html 240 though, must be pokey... -Curt - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] droolworthy
Looks very nice but $18K for a 79 might be a bit much?? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:55 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] droolworthy http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/359684556.html 240 though, must be pokey... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
If I were not so opposed to ethnic humor I would mention the one about Sikhs and other Indians - pull start vs. push button ... Oops. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here Funny story: Was in D.C. on business some years back. Took the family along to make a working vacation of it. Walking down the steps into the Metro station on Columbus Circle, my youngest (about 4-5 years old at the time) sees some Sikh guys in their native headdresses and shouts out, MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My response: I think they're having a convention here this week. grin Dan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Have you changed the oil yet? If not, do you know what's in the crankcase? For all you know, it could be something slightly thicker than water which would explain the problem. There are MANY out there who don't use Diesel rated oils in their diesels. In other words, if you haven't already done it, change the oil and see what happens. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
I assume you all have heard the one about the 2 turban families that moved to the USA and had the bet about which would become more Americanized in one year? If not, let me know and I shall see if I can recall enough of it to make it worthwhile. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:09 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies If I were not so opposed to ethnic humor I would mention the one about Sikhs and other Indians - pull start vs. push button ... Oops. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here Funny story: Was in D.C. on business some years back. Took the family along to make a working vacation of it. Walking down the steps into the Metro station on Columbus Circle, my youngest (about 4-5 years old at the time) sees some Sikh guys in their native headdresses and shouts out, MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My response: I think they're having a convention here this week. grin Dan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
I agree - although I'd like a MB SUV with a diesel engine ;-) - that V12 W140 is at the top of my list when I win the lottery - until then, fergetaboutit. Way to expensive maintanence IMHO. And I'd prefer a W140 over the newest S class - the design of which I find odd. There's a similar car in local newpaper 93(?) 600SEL with bad engine LOL course, dropping a diesel 2.5 turbo would be interesting - not fast, perhaps not economical because it'd be running in turbo mode constantly, but it would be cheap to maintain - engine-wise at least - that bio-degradable wiring harness is such a scream! But perhaps they meant well. LOL They're asking $500 OBO - Hey!! I've got a 89 van that won't sell (has wheelchair lift) with a 5.0L V8 - that would be nice in that 600! Later! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV. No interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename= STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 - not for me, but for my darling wife. 98k miles and I am sure everything is just like they say - near showroom... OK, I'm not that gullible. I also notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago. Wonder what happened? The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car. Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd jump on it - and probably regret it later. BillR Jacksonville FL: 1981 300SD 290k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/866 - Release Date: 6/25/2007 9:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
On 6/25/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you all have heard the one about the 2 turban families that moved to the USA and had the bet about which would become more Americanized in one year? If not, let me know and I shall see if I can recall enough of it to make it worthwhile. Randy You should know better than to post something like that to a list like this, large or small. There will always be at least one person that does not know what you are talking about, in this case me. Then ask the very question you were hoping to avoid, namely, What's the Joke? Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you changed the oil yet? If not, do you know what's in the crankcase? For all you know, it could be something slightly thicker than water which would explain the problem. There are MANY out there who don't use Diesel rated oils in their diesels. In other words, if you haven't already done it, change the oil and see what happens. I recently bought a Nissan truck (used) from a Nissan dealer. It was a certified pre-owned yada yada and one of the things they claimed they did was change the oil. You'd think it would have a OEM filter and the proper oil right? No, evidently for their used car pre-sale service they send the car across the street to K-Mart for the oil change. Had a generic filter and what seemed to be 0W-20 in it (owners manual calls for 5W-30). When I drained it it was like brown water running out. There was a lot of clatter on start up, a certain amount of which is considered normal for this engine but after I installed the OEM filter (with anti-drainback valve) and M1 5W-30, it was MUCH reduced. Bottom line is, unless YOU put it in, or you COMPLETELY trust your shop, you don't know WHAT fluids are in the car. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM603 Intake Manifold
Are there any tips/tricks to getting the intake manifold off of an OM603? I've managed to strip the hex heads on the top of #1 and the top of #6 (only stripped one hex bolt before this... sigh). There are also two of the bottom bolts somewhere in the middle I can't seem to get to. Thanks! John '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] droolworthy
Curt, I recall an early 90's MBCA driving event at Summit Point Raceway in WV... One member drove one of these on the 2 mile road course for time trials.. We used a sundial to time him!! He took all the heat we could give him and just smiled! On this one, seems a little pricey but could be a great weekender for the hills.. Take care, Chuck On Jun 25, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/359684556.html 240 though, must be pokey... -Curt - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
I apologize if my comments offended anyone. They were in reference to the term genie and were in the kids say the dardnest things vein, not intended to be ethnic in any way, shape or form. Dan --- BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were not so opposed to ethnic humor I would mention the one about Sikhs and other Indians - pull start vs. push button ... Oops. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here Funny story: Was in D.C. on business some years back. Took the family along to make a working vacation of it. Walking down the steps into the Metro station on Columbus Circle, my youngest (about 4-5 years old at the time) sees some Sikh guys in their native headdresses and shouts out, MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My response: I think they're having a convention here this week. grin Dan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123, ticky-ticky
In a message dated 6/25/07 2:28:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zoltan Finks wrote: Now, I notice that there seems to be a tappet noise constantly as it idles in my driveway. Unless it's an exhaust leak, but I doubt it. I'll drive it and see how long it persists - maybe is lessening as the engine warms up? Synthetic Mobil1 is supposed to fix that. May take a few oil changes to fix it though. Not with mechanical lifters. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticky ticky
Not with mechanical lifters. Disregard my last. Though you were referring to the 123. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123, ticky-ticky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not with mechanical lifters. Oops! ...thought we were still talking about his 190D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticky ticky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not with mechanical lifters. Disregard my last. Though you were referring to the 123. I guess we're both confused ;-) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Intake Manifold
If you have already stripped the allen sockets, try taking a 1/4 allen 3/8 drive socket and grind a taper on the 6 faces. Just a few thousandths on each face. Pound it in with a hammer and a long drift pin or extension. Get a hammer driven impact driver and put a long extension between it and the allen socket. Set the impact driver to the unbolt position and hammer away with a big (2-3 lb) hammer. I have found the manual driver and a hammer can work better in some cases than air driven rattle wrenches. Depending on how bad the heads are stripped, you might try pounding in the 1/4: allen without grinding. it is about .013 larger than the 6mm. Before stripping the heads: Buy a long (6) ball-head allen socket from Snap-on. Put a 6 or so extension on and use the hand driven impact wrench. The long ball allen lets you get around some obstacles. Snap-on because they have it and will replace it if you break it. Snap-on, because they make such an animal. Plan on waiting a week or so to get it, because the local guy most likely does not stock it. ^' because some of the heads are too close to the manifold to get in with a short allen socket. the large hammer blow often works better to loosen stuck bolts better than multiple fast blows of a hammer weighing ounces in a rattle wrench. Anyone who ever worked on a honda 305 motorcycle knows the drill. Soft phillips bolts, torqued a lot, and sometimes rusted or filled with loctite. Good luck Loren At 04:46 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: Are there any tips/tricks to getting the intake manifold off of an OM603? I've managed to strip the hex heads on the top of #1 and the top of #6 (only stripped one hex bolt before this... sigh). There are also two of the bottom bolts somewhere in the middle I can't seem to get to. Thanks! John '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123, ticky-ticky
the subject at hand was a 190D with a 601 engine, hydraulic lifters. At 04:52 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: Not with mechanical lifters. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Okay, appreciate the answers. After driving around for a couple hours and pulling back into my driveway, there is a lot less tapping. I agree - I should change out the oil. The seller says he had it changed with Castrol 15W 50. There is a Master Lube sticker in the windshield the corroborates his claim of having it changed, and a receipt that says customer oil discount. Despite the cheapskate in me, yes, I should change the oil soon. I guess the question that remains is: those of you who have 190Ds, how long does it take for your oil gauge to respond, and how long to reach the 3 bar mark? Not a crucial question, maybe, but I would like to know. Brian 87 190D On 6/25/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you changed the oil yet? If not, do you know what's in the crankcase? For all you know, it could be something slightly thicker than water which would explain the problem. There are MANY out there who don't use Diesel rated oils in their diesels. In other words, if you haven't already done it, change the oil and see what happens. I recently bought a Nissan truck (used) from a Nissan dealer. It was a certified pre-owned yada yada and one of the things they claimed they did was change the oil. You'd think it would have a OEM filter and the proper oil right? No, evidently for their used car pre-sale service they send the car across the street to K-Mart for the oil change. Had a generic filter and what seemed to be 0W-20 in it (owners manual calls for 5W-30). When I drained it it was like brown water running out. There was a lot of clatter on start up, a certain amount of which is considered normal for this engine but after I installed the OEM filter (with anti-drainback valve) and M1 5W-30, it was MUCH reduced. Bottom line is, unless YOU put it in, or you COMPLETELY trust your shop, you don't know WHAT fluids are in the car. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Takes a few seconds for the gauge to come up on all my cars with gauges. Replace the o-rings, they are very likely rock hard. I've done mine twice now in 100,000 miles. You can check the tappets next time you have the valve cover off -- if you can collapse them by hand with a screwdriver (pushing straight down beside the cam loe) they are shot. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
Zoltan Finks wrote: I guess the question that remains is: those of you who have 190Ds, how long does it take for your oil gauge to respond, and how long to reach the 3 bar mark? Not a crucial question, maybe, but I would like to know. With Mobil 1 in the engine it seldom takes more than a few seconds for the oil pressure to peg the needle. With conventional oil and with bad O rings on the oil filter cap stem, it could take 5+ seconds. You can't use conventional oil on an OM60x engine after 100-150kmi and NOT have a lot of lifter clatter. Mobil 1 is FAR superior to group III oils like Rotella and Castrol synthetics to quiet lifer clatter. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Engine sounds
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Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
I had a lady call me Saturday asking about an Oil Analysis kit - seems her 2000 Chrysler 300M's engine has a 1 dia hole in the block. She bought it 2 years ago from a Chrysler as a Certified Pre-Owned Used Chrysler which had th 120 point checklist and she bought the 2 year warranty which expired the 1st of April. Like you, she said the oil was like colored water when her mechanic drained it.Naturally, she wanted to have it analyzed to see what it would tell. I tried to explain that the hole in the block was more explanatory than a test - but the test might be helpful if she takes legal action. I agree with the comment about being cautious if you don't change the oil yourself. It's very hard to find people to trust your sometimes very expensive car. A friend took his almost new trunk back to the dealer for 12k service and put spots of White-Out on various drain plugs. When he picked the car up he checked the drain plugs and none were disturbed. Not the Rear Axle, transmission of sump. When confronted, they claimed ignorance, said it must have been a new guy and gave him a coupon for a free service. Awful big of them. I've never taken my cars anywhere for service and been as happy as I would have been had I done the work myself. That's the way things are now a days. - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123 Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you changed the oil yet? If not, do you know what's in the crankcase? For all you know, it could be something slightly thicker than water which would explain the problem. There are MANY out there who don't use Diesel rated oils in their diesels. In other words, if you haven't already done it, change the oil and see what happens. I recently bought a Nissan truck (used) from a Nissan dealer. It was a certified pre-owned yada yada and one of the things they claimed they did was change the oil. You'd think it would have a OEM filter and the proper oil right? No, evidently for their used car pre-sale service they send the car across the street to K-Mart for the oil change. Had a generic filter and what seemed to be 0W-20 in it (owners manual calls for 5W-30). When I drained it it was like brown water running out. There was a lot of clatter on start up, a certain amount of which is considered normal for this engine but after I installed the OEM filter (with anti-drainback valve) and M1 5W-30, it was MUCH reduced. Bottom line is, unless YOU put it in, or you COMPLETELY trust your shop, you don't know WHAT fluids are in the car. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/866 - Release Date: 6/25/2007 9:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this weeks used parts auctions 6/24/07
no Luther wrote: Did you get any calls today on your cell about used parts or an '83 300SD? Luther On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:52:27 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this weeks used parts auctions 6/24/07
best to email me though. Luther wrote: Did you get any calls today on your cell about used parts or an '83 300SD? Luther On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:52:27 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
I do not find any of the new Mercedes attractive or interesting. The S-class just looks blah, about like a Honda or something. LarryT wrote: I agree - although I'd like a MB SUV with a diesel engine ;-) - that V12 W140 is at the top of my list when I win the lottery - until then, fergetaboutit. Way to expensive maintanence IMHO. And I'd prefer a W140 over the newest S class - the design of which I find odd. There's a similar car in local newpaper 93(?) 600SEL with bad engine LOL course, dropping a diesel 2.5 turbo would be interesting - not fast, perhaps not economical because it'd be running in turbo mode constantly, but it would be cheap to maintain - engine-wise at least - that bio-degradable wiring harness is such a scream! But perhaps they meant well. LOL They're asking $500 OBO - Hey!! I've got a 89 van that won't sell (has wheelchair lift) with a 5.0L V8 - that would be nice in that 600! Later! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
LarryT wrote: Like you, she said the oil was like colored water when her mechanic drained it.Naturally, she wanted to have it analyzed to see what it would tell. I assume your kits test viscosity? I bet she's looking for somebody to pin the blame on for the rod jumping through the block. What's a four ball wear test cost? $100? $200? Some oil mfgs have warranties against lube failure. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
Listers, I need some advise on my daughter's car. Several weeks ago she complained her 1990 190e 2.6 w/ 7, (I think it's actually about 15, but that's another story) was not wanting to die when she came to an idle. By the time I came to inspect it the problem seem to have resolved it's self, and I couldn't reproduce it. The car has sat for 2wks, and I went out to start it this morning and it won't start it just cranks. I checked and it appears I'm getting spark so given last week's issues I'm thinking it's a fuel problem. What should I look at next? Fuel filter? Pump or pump relay? What should I evaluate next? This is the first issue I've ever really had with her car and I'm kinda at a loss. All my previous cars were/are diesel. I'd appreciate any advise. . Also does anyone have access to an online parts manual? Troy Kocher 77 240d (biofuels.ca) 191kMi SOLD, 79 280CE 130kMi(parts), 77 240d parts, 81 240d 287kMi, 82 300CD 215kMi SOLD, 90 190E 69kMi, 95 E300d 228kMi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Intake Manifold
Only a few stripped bolt heads, John? That's nothing. I had to use a hammer cold chisel to start fully half the bolts when I first removed the intake from the old rust belt albatross. Bit of a pita but doable beats waiting a week for a special order. Had no such troubles when I replaced the head on my current wagon. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
Dump some fuel into the engine to see if it fires, do it carefully and get advice if you have not done this sort of thing before. The fuel pump relay is a notorious troublemaker in the 190E's. Can be found behind the battery and can be taken apart to check soldering, although trying to find a crook solder is a needle in a haystack job because while the solder may look good from the top it could have issues underneath. The relay is not cheap new so make sure it is the culprit, you can get S/H ones but they may be just as dodgy. - Original Message - From: Troy Kocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start Listers, I need some advise on my daughter's car. Several weeks ago she complained her 1990 190e 2.6 w/ 7, (I think it's actually about 15, but that's ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
Had a 1989 E320 wagon with the same problem. Previous owner ran a wire from the battery to a switch he mounted in the floor by the drivers seat that then went to the fuel pump. Yanked his Rube Goldberg system out and put a fuel pump relay in. Car started and ran fine. To test the fuel pump run a long heavier gauge wire from the battery to the pump to see if the pump is good. If it is see if it works with the key in the run position, if not - change the relay. Buy the relay new from Rusty, getting stuck sucks especially for the daughter. I have the EPC - send your request OFFLIST to [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy Kocher Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:47 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start Listers, I need some advise on my daughter's car. Several weeks ago she complained her 1990 190e 2.6 w/ 7, (I think it's actually about 15, but that's another story) was not wanting to die when she came to an idle. By the time I came to inspect it the problem seem to have resolved it's self, and I couldn't reproduce it. The car has sat for 2wks, and I went out to start it this morning and it won't start it just cranks. I checked and it appears I'm getting spark so given last week's issues I'm thinking it's a fuel problem. What should I look at next? Fuel filter? Pump or pump relay? What should I evaluate next? This is the first issue I've ever really had with her car and I'm kinda at a loss. All my previous cars were/are diesel. I'd appreciate any advise. . Also does anyone have access to an online parts manual? Troy Kocher 77 240d (biofuels.ca) 191kMi SOLD, 79 280CE 130kMi(parts), 77 240d parts, 81 240d 287kMi, 82 300CD 215kMi SOLD, 90 190E 69kMi, 95 E300d 228kMi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Intake Manifold
The bolts on one of mine were almost loose the bolts on another were tight, but came loose. The bolts on the third needed the cold chisel/ fire wrench/ impact wrench with a big hammer treatment. I have not tried the 4th 603 yet. Joe's method is one I have used lots of times, but not on the intake bolts. Came pretty close though... Loren At 06:36 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: Only a few stripped bolt heads, John? That's nothing. I had to use a hammer cold chisel to start fully half the bolts when I first removed the intake from the old rust belt albatross. Bit of a pita but doable beats waiting a week for a special order. Had no such troubles when I replaced the head on my current wagon. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Intake Manifold
Sometimes it helps to find the smallest torx bit that won't go in the hex hole and drive it in with a hammer. Cuts and grabs better than a hex wrench. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Talent worth the five minutes.......
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[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:55 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 070625 2.835 2.832 2.920 2.915 2.789 2.806 2.780 2.936 2.985 3.073 070618 2.805 2.800 2.877 2.869 2.764 2.774 2.753 2.907 2.958 3.033 070611 2.792 2.789 2.882 2.873 2.744 2.753 2.742 2.937 2.941 2.997 070604 2.799 2.794 2.882 2.870 2.753 2.764 2.749 2.958 2.931 2.972 070528 2.817 2.811 2.888 2.882 2.773 2.783 2.776 2.980 2.939 2.975 070521 2.803 2.798 2.884 2.873 2.758 2.773 2.747 2.993 2.921 2.955 070514 2.773 2.758 2.866 2.843 2.711 2.740 2.713 2.998 2.919 2.952 070507 2.792 2.781 2.874 2.867 2.735 2.754 2.744 2.995 2.935 2.974 070430 2.811 2.800 2.871 2.873 2.762 2.775 2.766 2.988 2.952 2.987 070423 2.851 2.837 2.864 2.877 2.817 2.831 2.815 2.978 2.953 3.004 070416 2.877 2.862 2.871 2.885 2.852 2.864 2.849 2.981 2.956 3.015 070409 2.840 2.813 2.821 2.852 2.796 2.835 2.810 2.951 2.921 2.978 070402 2.790 2.764 2.786 2.820 2.739 2.780 2.766 2.884 2.885 2.939 070326 2.676 2.657 2.713 2.711 2.630 2.655 2.643 2.780 2.803 2.869 070319 2.681 2.661 2.722 2.719 2.631 2.666 2.640 2.765 2.813 2.875 070312 2.685 2.669 2.730 2.719 2.643 2.673 2.644 2.736 2.811 2.899 070305 2.626 2.604 2.693 2.668 2.568 2.606 2.587 2.658 2.795 2.897 070226 2.551 2.526 2.650 2.598 2.483 2.523 2.497 2.568 2.790 2.911 070219 2.491 2.479 2.636 2.581 2.421 2.444 2.418 2.517 2.784 2.901 070212 2.476 2.465 2.625 2.564 2.408 2.429 2.394 2.517 2.777 2.905 070205 2.435 2.433 2.593 2.527 2.378 2.377 2.360 2.523 2.720 2.825 070129 2.413 2.406 2.570 2.508 2.347 2.349 2.347 2.556 2.687 2.761 070122 2.430 2.421 2.582 2.525 2.361 2.371 2.361 2.586 2.695 2.742 070115 2.463 2.437 2.622 2.559 2.368 2.408 2.391 2.625 2.749 2.773 070108 2.537 2.520 2.672 2.633 2.458 2.483 2.459 2.682 2.824 2.856 070101 2.580 2.565 2.710 2.681 2.503 2.534 2.500 2.697 2.853 2.883 061225 2.596 2.587 2.737 2.710 2.520 2.550 2.514 2.713 2.856 2.885 061218 2.606 2.599 2.730 2.722 2.535 2.555 2.519 2.716 2.887 2.917 061211 2.621 2.610 2.749 2.730 2.546 2.563 2.540 2.724 2.931 2.963 061204 2.618 2.610 2.716 2.717 2.555 2.578 2.537 2.707 2.860 2.860 061127 2.567 2.537 2.634 2.652 2.479 2.554 2.490 2.680 2.760 2.710 061120 2.553 2.521 2.625 2.638 2.461 2.554 2.469 2.647 2.724 2.690 061113 2.552 2.530 2.616 2.643 2.473 2.562 2.470 2.623 2.673 2.677 061106 2.506 2.508 2.613 2.628 2.448 2.493 2.449 2.577 2.606 2.637 061030 2.517 2.530 2.629 2.646 2.472 2.501 2.462 2.577 2.602 2.645 061023 2.524 2.537 2.636 2.651 2.480 2.502 2.477 2.563 2.628 2.669 061016 2.503 2.521 2.623 2.636 2.462 2.459 2.461 2.539 2.655 2.703 061009 2.506 2.533 2.649 2.654 2.471 2.448 2.446 2.584 2.697 2.751 061002 2.546 2.567 2.678 2.694 2.503 2.467 2.490 2.679 2.789 2.835 060925 2.595 2.600 2.730 2.746 2.526 2.506 2.526 2.827 2.892 2.910 060918 2.713 2.699 2.832 2.844 2.625 2.624 2.636 3.052 3.014 3.002 060911 2.857 2.826 2.955 2.958 2.757 2.787 2.770
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Intake Manifold
Are there any tips/tricks to getting the intake manifold off of an OM603? I've managed to strip the hex heads on the top of #1 and the top Make sure (next time) that you clean the hole thoroughly and tap the bit in good with a hammer. I've also heard that putting a bit of grit on the bit first helps it keep from camming out and ruining your day. My 602 bolts all came off easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunil's GF
What was the question you asked that made the girl appear? Umm, Now HOW am I going to spend all these millions I just won in the lottery? :-) That's the only GF-producing genie I know of! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
If you find the bumpers, let me know. When I called Buy MB Parts to order all the injector line clips, bumpers and brackets, Tom said the bumpers for my car (190DT) were NLA. If you come up with a suitable alternative, (inner tube?) let me/us know also. If they're NLA, it'll be two pieces of inner tube rubber glued together. That's about the right thickness and texture. They're just a bit of rubber with a tit sticking off the bottom to poke into one of those rectangular holes in the bracketry. You can just tack them down with weatherstrip cement instead. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunil's GF
What was the question you asked that made the girl appear? Umm, Now HOW am I going to spend all these millions I just won in the lottery? :-) That's the only GF-producing genie I know of! -- Jim He IS close to being a doctor (if not one already). One hell of alot more work than the lottery, but probably way more rewarding in all ways. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
If they're NLA, it'll be two pieces of inner tube rubber glued together. That's about the right thickness and texture. They're just a bit of rubber with a tit sticking off the bottom to poke into one of those rectangular holes in the bracketry. You can just tack them down with weatherstrip cement instead. Thanks Jim. I will do that then. I wonder why a seemingly common item would be NLA? The bumpers appear to be the same for all OM60x injector lines. Whatever. The kids insure that I have plenty of inner tubes around. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine sounds
Love 'em ! Thanks. On 6/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgaduw9hPBc -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunil's GF
she went to HS with my younger brother. Met her a few years ago when she was dating another guy, and we became pretty tight. Things just fell into place a little while ago. On 6/25/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the question you asked that made the girl appear? Umm, Now HOW am I going to spend all these millions I just won in the lottery? :-) That's the only GF-producing genie I know of! -- Jim He IS close to being a doctor (if not one already). One hell of alot more work than the lottery, but probably way more rewarding in all ways. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Klima, Again
Can anyone tell me the application for this Klima relay? 001 545 85 05 I am looking for 001 545 80 05. I am guessing this one is for 6 cyl gas or maybe 4 cyl gas. 'Nother question: Can anyone remind me which terminals to jump in the Klima relay socket to power the compressor for testing? Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
I thought the early W140 V12s had 402 but later, the dropped a little to 386? Ed 300E On 25/06/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice cars. We have one. Amazing car. The motor has 402 hp not 386. It goes from 0-60 in 6 seconds. In town it needs to be driven in 3rd else the motor never gets over 1300rpm and carbons up the motor. Unfortunately the carbon gets into the oil system and plugs one of the touchy lifters. Sea Foam seems to have cleared it up. Car has Bio-degradeable wiring harness's under the hood as well as the ETA that have potentiometer issues as well. Depending on where the car lived you may or may not need an evaporator. In addition to the wiring at 99kmi plan on doing the rear accumulators, trans filter and hoses. At 125kmi start planning on doing the timing chain, valve stem seals and guides. Oh yeah pulling away from a Red Light when it goes green STILL puts a smile on my face. It's the 70's all over again but with air bags and ABS. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:07 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV. No interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagenam e= STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1 - not for me, but for my darling wife. 98k miles and I am sure everything is just like they say - near showroom... OK, I'm not that gullible. I also notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago. Wonder what happened? The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car. Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd jump on it - and probably regret it later. BillR Jacksonville FL: 1981 300SD 290k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
What about the tranny dipstick?? Luther On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:44:52 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: Yes, I agree - I don't know when I'll have time though - crazy times. I just added another pint and now at least the thing reads on the stick. Seems to be about 1 1/2 quarts low - that is is the distance between the top line and the bottom line is one pint, and if it reads accordingly all the way down the stick. The distance between the ADD and MAX line on the engine oil dipstick of OM60x engines is 2 liters (2.114 qt). That's from the 1988 TDM and covers cars from 85-thru '89. Marshall -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
I have to say, I really like the new S Class. I looked at a new one, and also the coupe. I think there was a big step forward in build quality over the last S, from what I could see in 20 minutes anyway. The previous one, (the one after the W140) was cheap junk to me. You could see the spot welds through the paint on the ones I saw on the inner door. I ran my hand over one once and cut my finger!! I thought it was a one off, but then looked on other cars, and saw the same quality. I also found it really uncomfortable. The only thing I don't like about the new S is that AMG seem to be going a little overboard with the add ons. Are they trying to woe the kids who buy Honda civics? Glad to see they are getting back on track with quality. It was kind of sad to watch them over the past several years. Now, if they could just get that proper thud in the doors back. :-) Ed 300E On 25/06/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not find any of the new Mercedes attractive or interesting. The S-class just looks blah, about like a Honda or something. LarryT wrote: I agree - although I'd like a MB SUV with a diesel engine ;-) - that V12 W140 is at the top of my list when I win the lottery - until then, fergetaboutit. Way to expensive maintanence IMHO. And I'd prefer a W140 over the newest S class - the design of which I find odd. There's a similar car in local newpaper 93(?) 600SEL with bad engine LOL course, dropping a diesel 2.5 turbo would be interesting - not fast, perhaps not economical because it'd be running in turbo mode constantly, but it would be cheap to maintain - engine-wise at least - that bio-degradable wiring harness is such a scream! But perhaps they meant well. LOL They're asking $500 OBO - Hey!! I've got a 89 van that won't sell (has wheelchair lift) with a 5.0L V8 - that would be nice in that 600! Later! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
COlumbus Circle subway stop is in NYC, not D.C. On 6/25/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize if my comments offended anyone. They were in reference to the term genie and were in the kids say the dardnest things vein, not intended to be ethnic in any way, shape or form. Dan --- BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were not so opposed to ethnic humor I would mention the one about Sikhs and other Indians - pull start vs. push button ... Oops. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here Funny story: Was in D.C. on business some years back. Took the family along to make a working vacation of it. Walking down the steps into the Metro station on Columbus Circle, my youngest (about 4-5 years old at the time) sees some Sikh guys in their native headdresses and shouts out, MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My response: I think they're having a convention here this week. grin Dan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunil's GF
I'm sure his way is more rewarding, but at my age and condition I can only hope for the lottery. Besides, I already have enough framed wallpaper in my office. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 10:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's GF What was the question you asked that made the girl appear? Umm, Now HOW am I going to spend all these millions I just won in the lottery? :-) That's the only GF-producing genie I know of! -- Jim He IS close to being a doctor (if not one already). One hell of alot more work than the lottery, but probably way more rewarding in all ways. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this weeks used parts auctions 6/24/07
He's technology ignorant. Met him at Flying J in OkC Sunday night. Wasn't too thrilled at buying brand new headlight buckets and needing the foglights also Sounds like he was stealershiping it. Luther On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:16:00 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: best to email me though. Luther wrote: Did you get any calls today on your cell about used parts or an '83 300SD? Luther On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:52:27 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunil's GF
Good luck with this one. I'll forgo the unasked for advice. Best work you can ever do. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 10:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's GF she went to HS with my younger brother. Met her a few years ago when she was dating another guy, and we became pretty tight. Things just fell into place a little while ago. On 6/25/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the question you asked that made the girl appear? Umm, Now HOW am I going to spend all these millions I just won in the lottery? :-) That's the only GF-producing genie I know of! -- Jim He IS close to being a doctor (if not one already). One hell of alot more work than the lottery, but probably way more rewarding in all ways. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Klima Bonanza
ok, part of this is self-promotion. There are currently 3 Klima relays llisted for sale on ebay. 2 are mine. One is for v-8 engines (vergasser) One is for OM617 Diesels I think maybe the other listing is for a 300E/TE Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ferrari vs. Benz
So yesterday after our usual Sunday Ultimate game, we stopped at the pub for a bit of rehydration. Afterwards, walking across the parking lot some dude in a new Ferrari something (whatever that newest one is) comes roaring along and near whacks me. So I kinda holler at him to slow down and then he does, but to creep over the speedbumps in the parking lot so he doesn't take off about $36k worth of Italian carbon and fiberglass and aluminum and whatever. I go get in the new 300SD and decide to check out those speedbumps. Roll over them at a good clip, hear whumpwhump and that is about it. Benz 1 Ferrari Nil --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] droolworthy
On 6/25/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/359684556.html 240 though, must be pokey... I love old Gs, but those wheels look lame and the tires are way too small. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
You need that thing they advertise to geezers on TV! I'm stuck under my Benz and I can't get up! --R James Zavesky wrote: Changed the transmission filter last week. That took two hours. An hour longer than normal. Got stuck on the ground and couldn't get up. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
How's about Dupont Circle? Duh. It's been a good 10-12 years since I've been in DC Dan --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COlumbus Circle subway stop is in NYC, not D.C. On 6/25/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize if my comments offended anyone. They were in reference to the term genie and were in the kids say the dardnest things vein, not intended to be ethnic in any way, shape or form. Dan --- BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were not so opposed to ethnic humor I would mention the one about Sikhs and other Indians - pull start vs. push button ... Oops. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here Funny story: Was in D.C. on business some years back. Took the family along to make a working vacation of it. Walking down the steps into the Metro station on Columbus Circle, my youngest (about 4-5 years old at the time) sees some Sikh guys in their native headdresses and shouts out, MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My response: I think they're having a convention here this week. grin Dan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies
Dan, That works just fine Dupont Circle it is. Take care, Chuck On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:34 PM, LWB250 wrote: How's about Dupont Circle? Duh. It's been a good 10-12 years since I've been in DC Dan --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COlumbus Circle subway stop is in NYC, not D.C. On 6/25/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize if my comments offended anyone. They were in reference to the term genie and were in the kids say the dardnest things vein, not intended to be ethnic in any way, shape or form. Dan --- BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were not so opposed to ethnic humor I would mention the one about Sikhs and other Indians - pull start vs. push button ... Oops. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 350GD - OT Genies --- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dunno, just found the girl. thanks though! no genies here Funny story: Was in D.C. on business some years back. Took the family along to make a working vacation of it. Walking down the steps into the Metro station on Columbus Circle, my youngest (about 4-5 years old at the time) sees some Sikh guys in their native headdresses and shouts out, MOM! DAD! LOOK! Genies! My response: I think they're having a convention here this week. grin Dan __ __ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ __ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ __ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Klima, Again
'Nother question: Can anyone remind me which terminals to jump in the Klima relay socket to power the compressor for testing? It's the usual relay terminal labeling, with extras. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ferrari vs. Benz
See, what everyone needs in a nice old Lamborghini LM002. Big honk'n 4x4 with a Countach V12 in it. It only does about 130 mph for all that HP, but it doesn't really care if it's on pavement or over a sand dune, it will do 130 over or through most anything. :-) Ed 300E On 26/06/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So yesterday after our usual Sunday Ultimate game, we stopped at the pub for a bit of rehydration. Afterwards, walking across the parking lot some dude in a new Ferrari something (whatever that newest one is) comes roaring along and near whacks me. So I kinda holler at him to slow down and then he does, but to creep over the speedbumps in the parking lot so he doesn't take off about $36k worth of Italian carbon and fiberglass and aluminum and whatever. I go get in the new 300SD and decide to check out those speedbumps. Roll over them at a good clip, hear whumpwhump and that is about it. Benz 1 Ferrari Nil --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
