Re: [MBZ] [Biodiesel] Appleseed reactor and quality fuel production
hi Luther! you may be perhaps assuming a good deal less swirling than what i've observed; there's not likely 35 gals of anything sitting... and how much difference does it really make if the reaction happens sooner or later? nobody's standing there holding their breath waiting for it. ;-) i know Mark; she's dined at this very table. i've never heard her talk about this, but i'll ask her next time we speak. not likely we'll ever see anything complying with 6751; for one, last time i checked, that only applies to B20 blends, and (as you may know) isn't really attainable unless you're working with oil from Soy, thanks to the Soy Growers and their friends at the National Biodiesel Board who drafted the standard that eventually got adopted. infopo(o)p, eh? jeeze,... 20 pages of conflicting info on just this topic alone; a good example of just one reason why i no longer look in there very often! ;-) so; any chance you'll address the rest of my points in my last post to you? cheers! e Luther wrote: The only mixing action happens at the pump and where your swirling happens at the top. What happens in the other 35 gal of the tank? The liquids just sit there and do NOTHING that helps the reaction. They do start to separate the BioD and glycerin apart, but only to be re-mixed by the pump later. This is a known and accepted fact by the designer of the Appleseed, Maria Girl Mark Alovert. When you work with 1L test batches (Dr.Pepper style), you mix the complete reaction by shaking the bottle. This way can acheive high conversion BioD that is very close to, if not complying with ASTM 6751. Do you do any conversion testing of your finished BioD? Using the 3/27 (Jan Warnqvist's method) method? http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9411061471/m/8281092351 Here are the basic ASTM tests at an affordable cost. http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/biodieseltesting.php If you test, you might find that the Appleseed reactor will not produce ASTM quality fuel in a one stage method. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Names and Paranoia and Internet and iMacs and On and On
If I didn't have to lovingly care for my Benzes, I'd accept your invitation. Brian Who would look after the Benzes? Who? On 6/27/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if they don't work, we have these nice padded rooms - On 6/27/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have meds to address the paranoia. On 6/27/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i am nearly king of the pismo (and i have to get my mother one too!)
what makes a pismo so special to you? I've been running the G4 powerbooks for a few years now and can't see why you'd want anything slower. On 6/27/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: today arrived in my mailbox one superdrive innards for a pismo. i've had for weeks now a non-reading dvd rom pismo module. i have screwdriver in my hand. h, i'm so excited. i gig ram, airport card, verizon pcmcia mobile broadband card, 500mhz, 40meg HD, two new batteries and, in a few minutes, superdrive. all i really lack is the g4 upgrade to run idvd with or i'd be absolute king of the pismos! for you non-mac types reading this, i have a pentium 2 class laptop that i have put way too much money into so i run around telling everyone i'm king of the computing world. my mother actually wants one now. she can't have mine, that's for sure! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i am nearly king of the pismo (and i have to get my mother one too!)
it's hard to say. there is just something about a pismo. and i'm not in the kind of rush you are in anyway. On 6/28/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what makes a pismo so special to you? I've been running the G4 powerbooks for a few years now and can't see why you'd want anything slower. On 6/27/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: today arrived in my mailbox one superdrive innards for a pismo. i've had for weeks now a non-reading dvd rom pismo module. i have screwdriver in my hand. h, i'm so excited. i gig ram, airport card, verizon pcmcia mobile broadband card, 500mhz, 40meg HD, two new batteries and, in a few minutes, superdrive. all i really lack is the g4 upgrade to run idvd with or i'd be absolute king of the pismos! for you non-mac types reading this, i have a pentium 2 class laptop that i have put way too much money into so i run around telling everyone i'm king of the computing world. my mother actually wants one now. she can't have mine, that's for sure! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
Jim, get the refill canister and a jug of cleaner. Should reduce can waste and be much cheaper. I saw the fellow at the stealer shop using one and he was LIBERAL with the stuff to get a look at some cars engine underside I do that with WD-40. May have a look for gallon jugs of BC. No status lately, I've been wrestling with a leaking oil seal in the Dodge. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i am nearly king of the pismo (and i have to get my mother one too!)
it's hard to say. there is just something about a pismo. and i'm not in the kind of rush you are in anyway. Ours are in daily use here. We like them, hard to say exactly why. Something ineffable. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ 87 300D Turbo smoke/idle problems.
Unburned fuel could be due to too much fuel or not enough air. Have you already gone through the air intake pathways to make sure you haven't sucked in a sock or have other significant blockage? Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gray smoke is unburned fuel. Almost has to be an injection problem -- are the opening pressures OK? If so, it's something in the IP, either bad pressure valves or actual plunger/sleeve damage. Check for leaking fuel lines - if they leak out, air leaks in under suction! The fuel preheater and small filter are all under suction, so you could have a leak at the preheater thermostat or associated lines. A stream of small bubbles in the clear filter is an air leak. A leaking pressure valve or seal will usually cause rough running a terrible injector knock (from late injection) but usually no smoke, as there is no fuel being delivered. Check the oil for fuel smell, too -- if the IP is leaking out the bottom seals on the plungers, it will dilute the oil and cause havoc. Peter -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i am nearly king of the pismo (and i have to get my mother one too!)
On 6/28/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's hard to say. there is just something about a pismo. and i'm not in the kind of rush you are in anyway. The Pismo is the W123 of the Mac world. It's ugly, it's slow and by God you *know* you can do better, but there is just something about it that endears it to your heart. You know it's trustworthy, stable, and built like a tank. So you hug it when you see it in the morning because you know it will get you where you are going and home with no issues. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ 87 300D Turbo smoke/idle problems.
That is similar to what happened when the head gasket blew on my 1994 S350. Except that it happened all at once, got gradually. The failure caused oil to dump into the #1 cylinder. The cylinder still fired (until oil pressure built up), and the compression actually went up in that cylinder - probably because all the oil caused the rings to seal better. There was sooo much smoke that it appeared more white than grey or black, but smelled like motor oil. I've since heard this is a common failure for that engine (one of many). I rather doubt your problem is similar, but throw I'd throw it out there just in case... -Dave Walton On 6/27/07, Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To review: Within a couple of days my car began to smoke terrible (thick grey smoke) and idle very rough. There is no oil in the coolant or coolant in the oil. The radiator hoses are not pressurized when the engine is cold. Also the coolant level has not changed and there are no fuel leaks. I've changed the plugs, the camshaft timing is good, ran it with fresh diesel then ran with diesel injection cleaner. I removed the injectors and viewed the spray pattern on each and they look good. EGR valve is not stuck open. All ball pins in the prechamber are intact. The exhaust tappets have only about 1-2 mm play. I ran a compression test but I'm not sure what the limits are. The highest was 460 psi and the lowest was 410 psi. The other four were 440-450 psi. Thanks again for all your help. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Central locks failing
OK, all of a sudden the central locking on my 300D is not working correctly. I know only enough to know this must mean a vacuum leak somewhere. Engine shuts off fine, and all doors lock if I lock the car right away after stopping. Unlocking is another story, if even 10 minutes pass the doors do not unlock, until I start the car, and even then it takes 10 seconds or so for enough vacuum to build to unlock. I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i am nearly king of the pismo (and i have to get my mother one too!)
this is a part of it. just dead reliable and sturdy. it's the only laptop i've ever used that i can actually type fairly well on. the drive slot allows for interchangeable modules or even an extra battery. how many laptops can you actually work all day on battery power? pop out the extra battery and put in cd/dvd burner or zip drive (yeah, i still use one of those). use pcmcia card for broadband access or for compact flash card.it's just darn versatile from a practical standpoint -- think 1979 123 wagon and you have the picture. On 6/28/07, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's hard to say. there is just something about a pismo. and i'm not in the kind of rush you are in anyway. The Pismo is the W123 of the Mac world. It's ugly, it's slow and by God you *know* you can do better, but there is just something about it that endears it to your heart. You know it's trustworthy, stable, and built like a tank. So you hug it when you see it in the morning because you know it will get you where you are going and home with no issues. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
I do have spark I tested the front most plug wire with a screwdriver. I also removed one of the center plugs, left it connected to the plug wire and watched it spark. . Troy On 6/27/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A KE-jet engine will run without a working OVP relay, it will run without the injection computer working but will not run without a working ignition computer. You do have spark? - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start Crank position sensor (the one on the rear of the engine) -- no spark. Just out of pure silliness, have you replaced the OVP relay? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
Haven't replaced anything yet. . I DO have spark when I take a plug out and lay it atop the rocker cover I can watch it spark. . Troy On 6/27/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crank position sensor (the one on the rear of the engine) -- no spark. Just out of pure silliness, have you replaced the OVP relay? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking? In the trunk. Lines are accessible at the fuel flap lock. Test it, and the trunk actuator. (The latter is what I have found is the most likely to break first.) Under the carpets are plastic channels with the vacuum system tees in them. That's next. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
My old 115 has intermittent door locks too. I have the vacuum pump tester doodad and need to start looking as well. Sometimes things work reasonably well - especially in hot weather, which leads me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. They seal better when warmed up? Often when I stop the car, the doors will all lock when I lock the driver's door but not always. I have to watch to see if the knobs go down and go around locking doors if they do not. For the longest time, I did not think my car had the locking fuel door but then one day it worked too. I think I need to order a bunch of the connector fittings from Rusty and have them available before I go digging to ensure that I can replace anything that looks or acts bad. Anyone have any idea what I should order in terms of T fittings and or straight fittings - IE - how many there may be in the vehicle? Given its age, it probably is not a bad idea to replace most or all of them. I asked but Rusty does not have a sort of sample kit available. He just sells them individually. I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. I have not tried removing panels from the MB but past experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage to the panel. The clip things are usually stuck pretty good after years of being there and the panels are usually made of thin masonite or something that does not stand up to much prying. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking? In the trunk. Lines are accessible at the fuel flap lock. Test it, and the trunk actuator. (The latter is what I have found is the most likely to break first.) Under the carpets are plastic channels with the vacuum system tees in them. That's next. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. The _usual_ failure is torn diaphragms rather than failed rubber connectors, but both are possible. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. You can dream! experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage Not too bad, if you do it right. A putty knife slipped behind the plastic pop connector will usually pry them out without panel damage, you don't ever pry against the panel itself. You may need new clips, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ 87 300D Turbo smoke/idle problems.
dave walton wrote: That is similar to what happened when the head gasket blew on my 1994 S350. Except that it happened all at once, got gradually. The failure caused oil to dump into the #1 cylinder. The cylinder still fired (until oil pressure built up), and the compression actually went up in that cylinder - probably because all the oil caused the rings to seal better. There was sooo much smoke that it appeared more white than grey or black, but smelled like motor oil. I've since heard this is a common failure for that engine (one of many). But the oil level dropped dramatically. I don't recall that the oil level is dropping! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
So, are the diaphragms available or do I have to buy the whole mechanism (if it is even available)? No bone yards with stuff like this around here so used is out unless I order it from down south. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. The _usual_ failure is torn diaphragms rather than failed rubber connectors, but both are possible. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
OK, if I don't pry against the panel, what do I pry against?? It appears to me that I would be prying against the panel whether I push or pull the putty knife. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. You can dream! experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage Not too bad, if you do it right. A putty knife slipped behind the plastic pop connector will usually pry them out without panel damage, you don't ever pry against the panel itself. You may need new clips, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Firmer springs for '92 300e?
The springs in my car have turned to mush. I've heard that at some point (1990?) the spring rate was decreased to give a softer, more 'Merican ride and that earlier springs (like from 1988) would fit and be more firm. Has anyone done this? On Rusty's site only the rear springs are listed with different part numbers. Rusty doesn't know if the '88 ones will fit. FWIW, this work will be done along with rear subframe mount replacements as the insides of the rear tires are wearing; I don't notice a squirrily ride in windy highway conditions or funky pulling on acceleration/deceleration so at this time I'm holding out on link replacements. TOny Wirtel '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again
So on the new 300SD the rear seem to be a bit squatty, and wheels look like maybe they have some excess camber? Or are they supposed to be like that? Driving the car on the highway at 70ish it seems to wander just a tad, I'm wo(a)ndering if both might be indicative of rear subframe mounts needing replacement, or something else? --R 84300SD (son's) 79300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - non-Benz Help for friend in Arkansas
Hi all, A friend of mine lives in Berryville, Arkansas and is having overheating problems in her '96 Mercury Gran Marquis.. Local shop said it would cost over $1000 to repair and she cannot afford that. Anybody know of an honest shop/mechanic in that area that can help her out??? Thanks and take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Hi Randy, Slide the knife between metal door frame and the door panel - until you hit one of the snap-in pins - with a slight pressure against the plastic peg you can turn the putty knife - although I use a Oyster knife. You cannot avoid pressing on the panel completrely, but by having the knife against the peg it will reduce the possibity of damage to the panel. The only problem is damaging the panels where the holes for the pegs are made and wallowing them out where they no longer hold the peg in place. You are unlikely to damage yours. The plastic pegs are cheap and easily replaced but I seldom damage them. It's not as difficult as you are imagining -- it'll be obvious once you see how it goes together - take care -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing OK, if I don't pry against the panel, what do I pry against?? It appears to me that I would be prying against the panel whether I push or pull the putty knife. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. You can dream! experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage Not too bad, if you do it right. A putty knife slipped behind the plastic pop connector will usually pry them out without panel damage, you don't ever pry against the panel itself. You may need new clips, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
I don't believe the diaphrams are available seperately - have always replace the assy - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing So, are the diaphragms available or do I have to buy the whole mechanism (if it is even available)? No bone yards with stuff like this around here so used is out unless I order it from down south. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. The _usual_ failure is torn diaphragms rather than failed rubber connectors, but both are possible. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't believe the diaphrams are available seperately - have always replace the assy - I guess using an old raincoat and shoe goo probably won't do the job? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car comparo
I am in Gump because that is all I can afford now the oldest is in private high school. Tuition is limiting me to taco stand grease for fuel and salvaging parts at the PnP to keep her running. clay On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. As a Porsche driver of long standing. I find this kind of comment pretty stupid and in rebuttal, I would ask why would one drive around in an ancient and decrepit MB with all kinds of deferred repairs? To be seen in an MB, that's why. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
You don't need to tear the doors open unless you find a bad actuator in one. The vacuum locking system only appears to be magic; it's really quite simple: 1.) A main valve on the driver's door 2.) Hoses with a green tracer from there to various tees in the system for opening (unlock) vacuum 3.) Hoses with a red tracer from there to various tees in the system for closing (lock) vacuum 4.) Actuators at each door and trunk lid The main junction is under the carpet in the footwell of the forward passenger seat. Separate the distribution tee from the supply line and apply vacuum to it. If the system won't hold vacuum, separate the lines from the tee and start applying vacuum to each one individually. Make sure the lock or actuator is in the right position (unlocked if you're testing the locking circuit) so you can see the actuator function. From here you can narrow it down to a particular door, trunk, or gas door actuator. I have found in a number of instances where an actuator will hold vacuum in one position but not the other, as the folds of the diaphragm create enough of a seal to prevent a leak. Testing and troubleshouting the vacuum system shouldn't take more than 10-15 minutes if you have MityVac or some sort of vacuum source. There is some additional magic involving later model systems that utilize the electric pump, like the 126 and 124. If anyone is interested, I'll amend this with the information for those systems. Dan --- R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old 115 has intermittent door locks too. I have the vacuum pump tester doodad and need to start looking as well. Sometimes things work reasonably well - especially in hot weather, which leads me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. They seal better when warmed up? Often when I stop the car, the doors will all lock when I lock the driver's door but not always. I have to watch to see if the knobs go down and go around locking doors if they do not. For the longest time, I did not think my car had the locking fuel door but then one day it worked too. I think I need to order a bunch of the connector fittings from Rusty and have them available before I go digging to ensure that I can replace anything that looks or acts bad. Anyone have any idea what I should order in terms of T fittings and or straight fittings - IE - how many there may be in the vehicle? Given its age, it probably is not a bad idea to replace most or all of them. I asked but Rusty does not have a sort of sample kit available. He just sells them individually. I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. I have not tried removing panels from the MB but past experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage to the panel. The clip things are usually stuck pretty good after years of being there and the panels are usually made of thin masonite or something that does not stand up to much prying. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking? In the trunk. Lines are accessible at the fuel flap lock. Test it, and the trunk actuator. (The latter is what I have found is the most likely to break first.) Under the carpets are plastic channels with the vacuum system tees in them. That's next. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car comparo
My reason, for what it is worth, was that I always wanted a diesel and I couldn't really justify the cost of a new pickup truck with one and really didn't need a 3/4 ton which is what most are. I considered a Jetta TDI but really wanted a car that was a bit bigger. I admit that I like the fact that it is an MB but I sort of doubt that most people are all that impressed with the fact that it is an MB because of its age. It looks quite nice as the paint is shiny and it is a real sharp color but it is fairly obviously old. Randy (who has 2 boys - one trying to get into graduate school and one about to start college and is lucky to be able to sort of afford the old MB) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car comparo I am in Gump because that is all I can afford now the oldest is in private high school. Tuition is limiting me to taco stand grease for fuel and salvaging parts at the PnP to keep her running. clay On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. As a Porsche driver of long standing. I find this kind of comment pretty stupid and in rebuttal, I would ask why would one drive around in an ancient and decrepit MB with all kinds of deferred repairs? To be seen in an MB, that's why. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
That is a great description of how to test it. You have given me the incentive to get at it. I wish someone could give similar instructions to test the power window in the driver's door of my wife's 98 Toyota Avalon. I have the wiring diagram but Lord there are a lot of wires and such. I will tackle it but fear causing harm. Again, I really do not wish to tear the door itself apart if I don't have to. I plan to provide power to the motor to see if it runs up or down. If so, I should be able to rule it out. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing You don't need to tear the doors open unless you find a bad actuator in one. The vacuum locking system only appears to be magic; it's really quite simple: 1.) A main valve on the driver's door 2.) Hoses with a green tracer from there to various tees in the system for opening (unlock) vacuum 3.) Hoses with a red tracer from there to various tees in the system for closing (lock) vacuum 4.) Actuators at each door and trunk lid The main junction is under the carpet in the footwell of the forward passenger seat. Separate the distribution tee from the supply line and apply vacuum to it. If the system won't hold vacuum, separate the lines from the tee and start applying vacuum to each one individually. Make sure the lock or actuator is in the right position (unlocked if you're testing the locking circuit) so you can see the actuator function. From here you can narrow it down to a particular door, trunk, or gas door actuator. I have found in a number of instances where an actuator will hold vacuum in one position but not the other, as the folds of the diaphragm create enough of a seal to prevent a leak. Testing and troubleshouting the vacuum system shouldn't take more than 10-15 minutes if you have MityVac or some sort of vacuum source. There is some additional magic involving later model systems that utilize the electric pump, like the 126 and 124. If anyone is interested, I'll amend this with the information for those systems. Dan --- R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old 115 has intermittent door locks too. I have the vacuum pump tester doodad and need to start looking as well. Sometimes things work reasonably well - especially in hot weather, which leads me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. They seal better when warmed up? Often when I stop the car, the doors will all lock when I lock the driver's door but not always. I have to watch to see if the knobs go down and go around locking doors if they do not. For the longest time, I did not think my car had the locking fuel door but then one day it worked too. I think I need to order a bunch of the connector fittings from Rusty and have them available before I go digging to ensure that I can replace anything that looks or acts bad. Anyone have any idea what I should order in terms of T fittings and or straight fittings - IE - how many there may be in the vehicle? Given its age, it probably is not a bad idea to replace most or all of them. I asked but Rusty does not have a sort of sample kit available. He just sells them individually. I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. I have not tried removing panels from the MB but past experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage to the panel. The clip things are usually stuck pretty good after years of being there and the panels are usually made of thin masonite or something that does not stand up to much prying. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking? In the trunk. Lines are accessible at the fuel flap lock. Test it, and the trunk actuator. (The latter is what I have found is the most likely to break first.) Under the carpets are plastic channels with the vacuum system tees in them. That's next. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe
Re: [MBZ] Window Tint
When I wanted to tint my window, I had my wife do it. She got really unhappy at the level of profanity that was being spewed on my end of the neighborhood. Fear that the smaller children around us might expand their vocabulary. The tint looks really good. On Jun 23, 2007, at 4:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/2007 1:58:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone here applied their own window tint? A while back, I picked up some custom laser-cut window film off of ebay, for my S124. I just now attempted to apply the RR window piece, but had to hastily abort when things went horribly awry. I couldn't get some wrinkles/kinks out, and had to keep pulling the film up, again and again. It sucks. Damn, how much do the shops charge to do this job? L'il help? Casey, Did you put a drop of dish soap in the water to help lubricate every thing. I use a spray bottle with distilled water and just a drop of dish soap to lubricate things. Spray the glass and then spray the tint on the surface you are going to squeegee. small bubbles will evaporate through the film but big ones must be pushed out. It goes without saying that this job must be done in the shade, and a little humidity helps. By the way two guys near me developed the process, several years ago, for using a single sheet of film inside the back window. They use the above stuff plus a hair dryer to stretch the film. distilled water is preferred as it will require less soap and the total residue left under the film will be less than using hard water. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** See what's free at http:// www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window Tint
I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ 87 300D Turbo smoke/idle problems.
I did not run the engine under that condition long enough to notice any oil consumption. I'm sure it went down some, but with a 10qt reserve, it was not significant. I also suspect that a little bit of oil makes a whole lotta smoke. -Dave Walton On 6/28/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: That is similar to what happened when the head gasket blew on my 1994 S350. Except that it happened all at once, got gradually. The failure caused oil to dump into the #1 cylinder. The cylinder still fired (until oil pressure built up), and the compression actually went up in that cylinder - probably because all the oil caused the rings to seal better. There was sooo much smoke that it appeared more white than grey or black, but smelled like motor oil. I've since heard this is a common failure for that engine (one of many). But the oil level dropped dramatically. I don't recall that the oil level is dropping! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car comparo
Just bought the boy Emil's 84 300SD, the car is 7 months older than the boy is but does not look its age. We just spent a couple hours changing oil, checking it out, crawling around underneath to get him acquainted. A newer POS would have cost 2-3x as much, not nearly as classy. He believes it will confer on him the status of an African klepto-dictator, might get some Zimbabwean or Burkina Faso flags to put on the front fenders and a parrot to ride on his shoulder. --R Redghost wrote: I am in Gump because that is all I can afford now the oldest is in private high school. Tuition is limiting me to taco stand grease for fuel and salvaging parts at the PnP to keep her running. clay On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. As a Porsche driver of long standing. I find this kind of comment pretty stupid and in rebuttal, I would ask why would one drive around in an ancient and decrepit MB with all kinds of deferred repairs? To be seen in an MB, that's why. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car comparo
Clay typed: I am in Gump because that is all I can afford now the oldest is in private high school. Tuition is limiting me to taco stand grease for fuel and salvaging parts at the PnP to keep her running. Ahhh...the things we do for our kids...wifey and I drive 20yr old and 30 yr old cars respectively on the outside chance the remaining two younguns (Sr Jr in HS) might get the school bug. Bob R Bubbling Flesh, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Allan suggested an old raincoat and shoe goo that only works if you're escaping Alcatraz! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't believe the diaphrams are available seperately - have always replace the assy - I guess using an old raincoat and shoe goo probably won't do the job? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Thanks Dan! Excellent description of how it works! Would love to see add'l info for the W124 -- BTW, when you're looking for leaks, where are you opening the Tee's for testing? At the main junction in the Passenger footwell? If so, I guess you watch to see which door lock opens/ or closes to determine which is bad or good? I'll bet there are some W126 Owners who would like more info also -- Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing You don't need to tear the doors open unless you find a bad actuator in one. The vacuum locking system only appears to be magic; it's really quite simple: 1.) A main valve on the driver's door 2.) Hoses with a green tracer from there to various tees in the system for opening (unlock) vacuum 3.) Hoses with a red tracer from there to various tees in the system for closing (lock) vacuum 4.) Actuators at each door and trunk lid The main junction is under the carpet in the footwell of the forward passenger seat. Separate the distribution tee from the supply line and apply vacuum to it. If the system won't hold vacuum, separate the lines from the tee and start applying vacuum to each one individually. Make sure the lock or actuator is in the right position (unlocked if you're testing the locking circuit) so you can see the actuator function. From here you can narrow it down to a particular door, trunk, or gas door actuator. I have found in a number of instances where an actuator will hold vacuum in one position but not the other, as the folds of the diaphragm create enough of a seal to prevent a leak. Testing and troubleshouting the vacuum system shouldn't take more than 10-15 minutes if you have MityVac or some sort of vacuum source. There is some additional magic involving later model systems that utilize the electric pump, like the 126 and 124. If anyone is interested, I'll amend this with the information for those systems. Dan --- R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old 115 has intermittent door locks too. I have the vacuum pump tester doodad and need to start looking as well. Sometimes things work reasonably well - especially in hot weather, which leads me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. They seal better when warmed up? Often when I stop the car, the doors will all lock when I lock the driver's door but not always. I have to watch to see if the knobs go down and go around locking doors if they do not. For the longest time, I did not think my car had the locking fuel door but then one day it worked too. I think I need to order a bunch of the connector fittings from Rusty and have them available before I go digging to ensure that I can replace anything that looks or acts bad. Anyone have any idea what I should order in terms of T fittings and or straight fittings - IE - how many there may be in the vehicle? Given its age, it probably is not a bad idea to replace most or all of them. I asked but Rusty does not have a sort of sample kit available. He just sells them individually. I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. I have not tried removing panels from the MB but past experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage to the panel. The clip things are usually stuck pretty good after years of being there and the panels are usually made of thin masonite or something that does not stand up to much prying. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking? In the trunk. Lines are accessible at the fuel flap lock. Test it, and the trunk actuator. (The latter is what I have found is the most likely to break first.) Under the carpets are plastic channels with the vacuum system tees in them. That's next. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: [MBZ] Moving day
I don't know Billy but my brother uses Euro Spec for his 240D and his 400sel. I walked in one day of the street and asked for the metal washer for the secondary fuel filter for the 240D; they stopped what thy were doing, and gave me the washer-no charge. I was impressed. I wish we had a shop like that here-they sell a few cars from time to time, lot is like a candy store-do check it out, Glen. Happy moving. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trampas Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:12 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Moving day You need to look up Billy at Euro Spec in Fletcher NC. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Moving day Moving day is tomorrow, so keep the shiny side up guys till I rejoin. G. M. Brown to Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car titles and liens
The only safe way is to have lender certify to the state that the lien is satisfied and wait for state to remove lien-can take a few weeks, but without a clear title, you could be in trouble. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of eric peterson Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car titles and liens According to seller title is held by the state until they receive a letter from the lender stating the lien has been satisfied. I'm not sure how you transfer a title with a lien attached as you don't have the title. --- Anthony Galioto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find out how much and to who the lien holder is. Before you give any money you should make sure that you can satisfy the lien plus any interest thereupon and deduct it from the sales price. You should also be sure he/she can transfer title with a lien on the vehicle. The above transaction should be done simultaneously. Anthony On 6/27/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've located a car I want to purchase that is 1/2way across the country. The car is in good shape and the price is reasonable, but the seller has a lein against the car and will not be able to surrender the title at the time of sale. Anyone have any ideas on how to handle these types of situations. What should I be on the lookout for?? I would be paying cash. Thanks Eric 85 300CD 112K Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Anthony ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car comparo
I think you will find the vast majority of people have no idea what age a MB is. My '78 240D has all of its parts, a beautiful paint job which I keep clean and waxed and have had several people ask if it's new! It's 30 freakin' years old! Jeez... Also, I worked with a guy - reasonably intelligent but not a car guy. We were traveling together to an out of state engineering office and had to share a rental car with 2 other team members when we came across a guy pushing his 240D off the street - my co-worker said, Look at that! An $80,000 car and he can't keep it running! This is a pretty typical comment from someone who doesn;t know one MB from another. They've heard about the SL costing $70k to $100k and that's their impression of all MBs Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car comparo My reason, for what it is worth, was that I always wanted a diesel and I couldn't really justify the cost of a new pickup truck with one and really didn't need a 3/4 ton which is what most are. I considered a Jetta TDI but really wanted a car that was a bit bigger. I admit that I like the fact that it is an MB but I sort of doubt that most people are all that impressed with the fact that it is an MB because of its age. It looks quite nice as the paint is shiny and it is a real sharp color but it is fairly obviously old. Randy (who has 2 boys - one trying to get into graduate school and one about to start college and is lucky to be able to sort of afford the old MB) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car comparo I am in Gump because that is all I can afford now the oldest is in private high school. Tuition is limiting me to taco stand grease for fuel and salvaging parts at the PnP to keep her running. clay On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. As a Porsche driver of long standing. I find this kind of comment pretty stupid and in rebuttal, I would ask why would one drive around in an ancient and decrepit MB with all kinds of deferred repairs? To be seen in an MB, that's why. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window Tint
But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! That's the only way you get good at it - After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always remember the quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a poor job full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of those $$s you saved. ;-) I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked terrible and my wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living without it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun
Hi, All. Wife's 99 Toy is loosing it's cool. Still works but not as cool as it was. I have RTFM and have all necessary stuff and tools. The Question is this:- if some portion of the gas has leaked out, and presumably some of the oil, how do you estimate the quantity of oil remaining? Do I use one of those charge cans with oil, or will that over oil things? Hot and sweaty dope wants to know. (correction NEEDS to know! Wifely comment) Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD 99 Toyota Crow roller VE, the cheap one. - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car comparo
You likely get further with a 78 and I do with my 76 however as the newer one has rounder lines. My old 115 is pretty square. That does not bother me however. It is getting to where all of the new cars look alike. I'm unique! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car comparo I think you will find the vast majority of people have no idea what age a MB is. My '78 240D has all of its parts, a beautiful paint job which I keep clean and waxed and have had several people ask if it's new! It's 30 freakin' years old! Jeez... Also, I worked with a guy - reasonably intelligent but not a car guy. We were traveling together to an out of state engineering office and had to share a rental car with 2 other team members when we came across a guy pushing his 240D off the street - my co-worker said, Look at that! An $80,000 car and he can't keep it running! This is a pretty typical comment from someone who doesn;t know one MB from another. They've heard about the SL costing $70k to $100k and that's their impression of all MBs Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car comparo My reason, for what it is worth, was that I always wanted a diesel and I couldn't really justify the cost of a new pickup truck with one and really didn't need a 3/4 ton which is what most are. I considered a Jetta TDI but really wanted a car that was a bit bigger. I admit that I like the fact that it is an MB but I sort of doubt that most people are all that impressed with the fact that it is an MB because of its age. It looks quite nice as the paint is shiny and it is a real sharp color but it is fairly obviously old. Randy (who has 2 boys - one trying to get into graduate school and one about to start college and is lucky to be able to sort of afford the old MB) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car comparo I am in Gump because that is all I can afford now the oldest is in private high school. Tuition is limiting me to taco stand grease for fuel and salvaging parts at the PnP to keep her running. clay On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. As a Porsche driver of long standing. I find this kind of comment pretty stupid and in rebuttal, I would ask why would one drive around in an ancient and decrepit MB with all kinds of deferred repairs? To be seen in an MB, that's why. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again
Subframe mounts, at least, and maybe/probably the trailing arm bushings too. At 12:25 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: So on the new 300SD the rear seem to be a bit squatty, and wheels look like maybe they have some excess camber? Or are they supposed to be like that? Driving the car on the highway at 70ish it seems to wander just a tad, I'm wo(a)ndering if both might be indicative of rear subframe mounts needing replacement, or something else? --R 84300SD (son's) 79300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again
Subframe mounts, as others have stated. This is a pretty easy and relatively inexpensive job. A bit of brute force, but if you plan in advance and soak everything well with penetrating lube you'll be fine. Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subframe mounts, at least, and maybe/probably the trailing arm bushings too. At 12:25 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: So on the new 300SD the rear seem to be a bit squatty, and wheels look like maybe they have some excess camber? Or are they supposed to be like that? Driving the car on the highway at 70ish it seems to wander just a tad, I'm wo(a)ndering if both might be indicative of rear subframe mounts needing replacement, or something else? --R 84300SD (son's) 79300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window Tint
Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO CA.just in case I ever need it. On 6/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! That's the only way you get good at it - After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always remember the quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a poor job full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of those $$s you saved. ;-) I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked terrible and my wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living without it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Yes, Dan. The locks on my '83 300SD have been inoperative since I've owned the car. The pump goes until it times out (30 seconds IIRC), but nothing happens other than the fuel door locking (found this out when attempting to fuel up and had to open it manually). Luckily enough, I did it quickly enough and didn't have the pump attendant waiting around. Here in OR, we've forgotten how to fill our fuel tanks, hahaha. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window Tint
Well, sometimes you might not want to see the rain and fog so clearly? ;-0 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO CA.just in case I ever need it. On 6/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! That's the only way you get good at it - After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always remember the quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a poor job full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of those $$s you saved. ;-) I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked terrible and my wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living without it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
The distributor in the drivers door plays up and is very difficult to adjust just right. A millimetre the wrong way and it will leak. What you need to do with the mity vac is to hook it into a line to see if that line holds pressure. This requires vaccum hose and a three way T piece. - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Central locks failing OK, all of a sudden the central locking on my 300D is not working correctly. I know only enough to know this must mean a vacuum leak somewhere. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Usually if a diaphram is torn then it won't hold any sort of vaccum due to the size of the leak. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. The _usual_ failure is torn diaphragms rather than failed rubber connectors, but both are possible. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
My preferred method is a large screwdriver with the blade against the clip, if done right you won't need to buy new clips. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. You can dream! experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage Not too bad, if you do it right. A putty knife slipped behind the plastic pop connector will usually pry them out without panel damage, you don't ever pry against the panel itself. You may need new clips, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
They can be bodgied up with condoms or similar, I used to have a link to a site that detailed the procedure, also there is nothing wrong with S/H ones if you get em for the right price. - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't believe the diaphrams are available seperately - have always replace the assy - I guess using an old raincoat and shoe goo probably won't do the job? Allan -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
I am pretty sure the 124's use a dedicated pump to supply vaccum AND pressure for closing/opening (thus only needing one line), as such are very different to the 123's. I know my 201 has a pump under the rear seat. I am not sure what the 126's use but it may well be that they changed half way through it's life span. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing Thanks Dan! Excellent description of how it works! Would love to see add'l info for the W124 -- BTW, when you're looking for leaks, where are you opening the Tee's for testing? At the main junction in the Passenger footwell? If so, I guess you watch to see which door lock opens/ or closes to determine which is bad or good? I'll bet there are some W126 Owners who would like more info also -- Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window Tint
Why would you want to turn a good MB into a ghetto ride? (my real terminology is somewhat different) Took me hours to scrape of the stupid tint off the back window of the TD. The crap does deteriorate. Even if it is ok for a year or 3 after it is put on, it deteriorates and is a holy mess to get off. At 06:46 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO CA.just in case I ever need it. On 6/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! That's the only way you get good at it - After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always remember the quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a poor job full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of those $$s you saved. ;-) I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked terrible and my wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living without it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
OK we'll go back one step, in order for an engine to run you need three things; fuel/air mixture, compression and spark. This all has to happen at the right time obviously. Right now I am still focusing on fuel because losing compression all of a sudden is a rare thing, can happen if the valve timing is off. Losing ignition timing all of a sudden is also pretty rare, can happen if the dizzy came loose. When you crank it and then remove a plug, do you get a smell of fuel happening? If the engine is getting fuel but the timing is off you should be able to smell (and perhaps see a wet plug) fuel. Another possibility is that you have lost your cold start circuit, although unless it is really cold the engine will fire without that circuit. I take it that the car was running fine before it decided to stop playing ball? - Original Message - From: Troy Kocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start I do have spark I tested the front most plug wire with a screwdriver. I also removed one of the center plugs, left it connected to the plug wire and watched it spark. . Troy On 6/27/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A KE-jet engine will run without a working OVP relay, it will run without the injection computer working but will not run without a working ignition computer. You do have spark? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again
OK, guess that one will be one for a future effort as no time now. Thanks... --R LWB250 wrote: Subframe mounts, as others have stated. This is a pretty easy and relatively inexpensive job. A bit of brute force, but if you plan in advance and soak everything well with penetrating lube you'll be fine. Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subframe mounts, at least, and maybe/probably the trailing arm bushings too. At 12:25 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: So on the new 300SD the rear seem to be a bit squatty, and wheels look like maybe they have some excess camber? Or are they supposed to be like that? Driving the car on the highway at 70ish it seems to wander just a tad, I'm wo(a)ndering if both might be indicative of rear subframe mounts needing replacement, or something else? --R 84300SD (son's) 79300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
I am pretty sure the 124's use a dedicated pump to supply vaccum AND pressure for closing/opening (thus only needing one line), as such are very different to the 123's. I know my 201 has a pump under the rear seat. I am not sure what the 126's use but it may well be that they changed half way through it's life span. The 126's used two different electric-pump systems. The early ones used a POS pump that is short-lived when compared to the later pumps. (They're the ones that only operate from the driver's door.) Everything newer than the 123 used the single-line pump. The 107 is rare in that it was available with both systems, depending on age. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Usually if a diaphram is torn then it won't hold any sort of vaccum due to the size of the leak. That is contrary to my experience. Initially the tears are small, and can close up spontaneously depending on their mood. But things get progressively worse rather quickly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun
I have RTFM and have all necessary stuff and tools. The Question is this:- if some portion of the gas has leaked out, and presumably some of the oil, how do you estimate the quantity of oil remaining? Do I use one of those charge cans with oil, or will that over oil things? Ah, that is the part that's art, innit? The Yorks had an advantage there in that they have a crankcase and a dipstick. I have no practical advice. I believe I lost my 190D's compressor due to a lack of oil, however. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
I guess using an old raincoat and shoe goo probably won't do the job? Shoe Goo, though slightly flexible, is too rigid for this application. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
OK, if I don't pry against the panel, what do I pry against?? If you've ever seen one of the plastic pop-connectors you'll see what you pry against. It's the shoulder of the connector itself. Think 'nail head'. You pry out against the shank of the connector, not the other way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again
You can patch things along a while by putting some twist-in spring spacers for a while. It will take 2-3 for each spring. This will reduce the tire wear on the inside. Loren BTDT At 08:02 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: OK, guess that one will be one for a future effort as no time now. Thanks... --R LWB250 wrote: Subframe mounts, as others have stated. This is a pretty easy and relatively inexpensive job. A bit of brute force, but if you plan in advance and soak everything well with penetrating lube you'll be fine. Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subframe mounts, at least, and maybe/probably the trailing arm bushings too. At 12:25 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: So on the new 300SD the rear seem to be a bit squatty, and wheels look like maybe they have some excess camber? Or are they supposed to be like that? Driving the car on the highway at 70ish it seems to wander just a tad, I'm wo(a)ndering if both might be indicative of rear subframe mounts needing replacement, or something else? --R 84300SD (son's) 79300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window Tint
Loren, not sure i understand what your issue with tinting is; what about tinting makes a car ghetto (or whatever you actually call it)? in places where the sun actually shines, it can make a car much more pleasant, and even preserve the interior by not allowing interior temps to rise as high. i wouldn't have my J**p XJ now without tinting, but that's because it plays in the Deserts, high-altitudes, and all along the coasts; all of which can be sunnier than what i care to expose myself or my vehicle interior to... its tinting has only been there for about 10 years so far, but it still looks fine; no indication of any need to redo it yet, but that's probably because it was professionally done by a place that knew how. granted, it's California Legal (clear front doors and windshield) because that's where it's registered, but even that partial tinting combined with the roof painted white sure seems to keep it cooler inside than before i made those mods. the tinting in the 300D is a little bit shaggier looking, but it came to me that way; that's only because the POs dogs had left scratches on it in a couple of places (and i don't know how quality of a job it was to begin with). it's a full tint except for the windshield, and also one of the only '85s i've seen that doesn't have a single crack in the dash or anywhere else in the interior, in spite of the fact that it was originally a Southern California car. on a recent road trip to Eastern Texas and back, i noticed that in places where they really know sun, it was hard to find cars that *didn't* have tinting... but you know what a ghetto places like Scottsdale, Santa Fe, and Palm Springs are. ;-) cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: Why would you want to turn a good MB into a ghetto ride? (my real terminology is somewhat different) Took me hours to scrape of the stupid tint off the back window of the TD. The crap does deteriorate. Even if it is ok for a year or 3 after it is put on, it deteriorates and is a holy mess to get off. At 06:46 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO CA.just in case I ever need it. On 6/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! That's the only way you get good at it - After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always remember the quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a poor job full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of those $$s you saved. ;-) I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked terrible and my wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living without it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] Paint Color Heat : was Window Tint
Hi guys, Living in the Valley of the Sun, I've got two cars that are tinted and that helps while one is driving. And they are both Smoke Silver because I didn't want any dark colored car. But, does anyone have any information to determine if there is any interior temperature differential between similar black and white cars sitting for a fixed period of time in the sun. I've been told anecdotal info that indicates there is NO difference at all. Just an inquiring mind! Take care and be safe, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:31 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: Loren, not sure i understand what your issue with tinting is; what about tinting makes a car ghetto (or whatever you actually call it)? in places where the sun actually shines, it can make a car much more pleasant, and even preserve the interior by not allowing interior temps to rise as high. i wouldn't have my J**p XJ now without tinting, but that's because it plays in the Deserts, high-altitudes, and all along the coasts; all of which can be sunnier than what i care to expose myself or my vehicle interior to... its tinting has only been there for about 10 years so far, but it still looks fine; no indication of any need to redo it yet, but that's probably because it was professionally done by a place that knew how. granted, it's California Legal (clear front doors and windshield) because that's where it's registered, but even that partial tinting combined with the roof painted white sure seems to keep it cooler inside than before i made those mods. the tinting in the 300D is a little bit shaggier looking, but it came to me that way; that's only because the POs dogs had left scratches on it in a couple of places (and i don't know how quality of a job it was to begin with). it's a full tint except for the windshield, and also one of the only '85s i've seen that doesn't have a single crack in the dash or anywhere else in the interior, in spite of the fact that it was originally a Southern California car. on a recent road trip to Eastern Texas and back, i noticed that in places where they really know sun, it was hard to find cars that *didn't* have tinting... but you know what a ghetto places like Scottsdale, Santa Fe, and Palm Springs are. ;-) cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: Why would you want to turn a good MB into a ghetto ride? (my real terminology is somewhat different) Took me hours to scrape of the stupid tint off the back window of the TD. The crap does deteriorate. Even if it is ok for a year or 3 after it is put on, it deteriorates and is a holy mess to get off. At 06:46 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO CA.just in case I ever need it. On 6/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! That's the only way you get good at it - After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always remember the quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a poor job full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of those $$s you saved. ;-) I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked terrible and my wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living without it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT - non-Benz Help for friend in Arkansas
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:13:37 -0700 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, A friend of mine lives in Berryville, Arkansas and is having overheating problems in her '96 Mercury Gran Marquis.. Anybody know of an honest shop/mechanic in that area that can help her out??? Sorry, I know of no one. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Hendrik Riessen wrote: My preferred method is a large screwdriver with the blade against the clip, if done right you won't need to buy new clips. I use a Snap-On tool that resembles a forked screwdriver with a bent shaft. Couldn't find it in the online catalog, but this may be better: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=item_ID=12836group_ID=1796 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ 87 300D Turbo smoke/idle problems.
Dave, if you have 10 quarts of oil in an 8 quart system, it may cause some smoke. (grin) Where does the extra 2 quarts reside in your 603 engine? On 6/28/07, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not run the engine under that condition long enough to notice any oil consumption. I'm sure it went down some, but with a 10qt reserve, it was not significant. I also suspect that a little bit of oil makes a whole lotta smoke. -Dave Walton On 6/28/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: That is similar to what happened when the head gasket blew on my 1994 S350. Except that it happened all at once, got gradually. The failure caused oil to dump into the #1 cylinder. The cylinder still fired (until oil pressure built up), and the compression actually went up in that cylinder - probably because all the oil caused the rings to seal better. There was sooo much smoke that it appeared more white than grey or black, but smelled like motor oil. I've since heard this is a common failure for that engine (one of many). But the oil level dropped dramatically. I don't recall that the oil level is dropping! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bosch injector rebuild on 600SEL V12
Listers where would I send my Bosch injectors to get rebuilt and calibrated? Is there any difference in performance or longevity versus new? Car is a 1992 600SEL V12 with 139900 miles on it. Dealership told me that four of the injectors were bad when they tried putting top end of engine back together. Thanks James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun
Jim, et al. I was just kicking going down, I'll have to trust to dumb luck and put in oil too. Thanks. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD Toy VE Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Ah, that is the part that's art, innit? The Yorks had an advantage there in that they have a crankcase and a dipstick.I have no practical advice. I believe I lost my 190D's compressor due to a lack of oil, however. -- Jim - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
Mitch Haley wrote: I use a Snap-On tool that resembles a forked screwdriver with a bent shaft. Found the catalog page. No idea which one fits best, but any of them should be better than a screwdriver. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=allGroup_ID=1793 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
But that is only for GM and Fard vehicles, don't be tight, go and spend a few hundred on the MB version:-) - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing Hendrik Riessen wrote: My preferred method is a large screwdriver with the blade against the clip, if done right you won't need to buy new clips. I use a Snap-On tool that resembles a forked screwdriver with a bent shaft. Couldn't find it in the online catalog, but this may be better: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=item_ID=12836group_ID=1796 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paint Color Heat : was Window Tint
hi Chuck! i'm sure if they were to sit for long enough there wouldn't be any difference, but i can assure you that there is a very real and noticeable difference in the black and white painted areas of my J**p... i'm betting that after enough hours there would be enough heat energy passing through to the interior through the glass that interior temps might be equal, but it would appear that having the roof white at least slows down the rate at which the vehicle heats up. (ever notice how the roofs of school buses, motor homes, and Land Cruisers/Rovers that see Dez duty are white?) cheers! e Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hi guys, Living in the Valley of the Sun, I've got two cars that are tinted and that helps while one is driving. And they are both Smoke Silver because I didn't want any dark colored car. But, does anyone have any information to determine if there is any interior temperature differential between similar black and white cars sitting for a fixed period of time in the sun. I've been told anecdotal info that indicates there is NO difference at all. Just an inquiring mind! Take care and be safe, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:31 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: Loren, not sure i understand what your issue with tinting is; what about tinting makes a car ghetto (or whatever you actually call it)? in places where the sun actually shines, it can make a car much more pleasant, and even preserve the interior by not allowing interior temps to rise as high. i wouldn't have my J**p XJ now without tinting, but that's because it plays in the Deserts, high-altitudes, and all along the coasts; all of which can be sunnier than what i care to expose myself or my vehicle interior to... its tinting has only been there for about 10 years so far, but it still looks fine; no indication of any need to redo it yet, but that's probably because it was professionally done by a place that knew how. granted, it's California Legal (clear front doors and windshield) because that's where it's registered, but even that partial tinting combined with the roof painted white sure seems to keep it cooler inside than before i made those mods. the tinting in the 300D is a little bit shaggier looking, but it came to me that way; that's only because the POs dogs had left scratches on it in a couple of places (and i don't know how quality of a job it was to begin with). it's a full tint except for the windshield, and also one of the only '85s i've seen that doesn't have a single crack in the dash or anywhere else in the interior, in spite of the fact that it was originally a Southern California car. on a recent road trip to Eastern Texas and back, i noticed that in places where they really know sun, it was hard to find cars that *didn't* have tinting... but you know what a ghetto places like Scottsdale, Santa Fe, and Palm Springs are. ;-) cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: Why would you want to turn a good MB into a ghetto ride? (my real terminology is somewhat different) Took me hours to scrape of the stupid tint off the back window of the TD. The crap does deteriorate. Even if it is ok for a year or 3 after it is put on, it deteriorates and is a holy mess to get off. At 06:46 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO CA.just in case I ever need it. On 6/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! That's the only way you get good at it - After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always remember the quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a poor job full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of those $$s you saved. ;-) I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked terrible and my wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living without it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window Tint I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros install tint. $250--ouch! Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
The only reported issue was once, three weeks ago, when my daughter reported it wanted to die when she came to a stop, at a traffic light . Later that evening by the time I got to the car I couldn't reproduce the problem. Stopped by my mechanic today and described the problem to him and thought I had flooded it at this point and advised taking out the plugs, getting the fuel out of they cylinders by cranking till it all is out. Replacing the plugs with new ones, Replacing the distributor cap rotor button. When I described the spark I was seeing from the plugs as 'bright white' he thought that strange as he typically sees a red spark from the plugs. Haven't tried smelling the plug hole, but when I removed the plug originally it was pretty dry. Right now ambient temp here is 90+F humidity of 80%. thanks for your continued input. . Hope I don't have to give up and tow it to the mechanic! :-( I think I'll try the plugs and rotor next. . seems reasonable. . Troy Kocher On 6/28/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK we'll go back one step, in order for an engine to run you need three things; fuel/air mixture, compression and spark. This all has to happen at the right time obviously. Right now I am still focusing on fuel because losing compression all of a sudden is a rare thing, can happen if the valve timing is off. Losing ignition timing all of a sudden is also pretty rare, can happen if the dizzy came loose. When you crank it and then remove a plug, do you get a smell of fuel happening? If the engine is getting fuel but the timing is off you should be able to smell (and perhaps see a wet plug) fuel. Another possibility is that you have lost your cold start circuit, although unless it is really cold the engine will fire without that circuit. I take it that the car was running fine before it decided to stop playing ball? - Original Message - From: Troy Kocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start I do have spark I tested the front most plug wire with a screwdriver. I also removed one of the center plugs, left it connected to the plug wire and watched it spark. . Troy On 6/27/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A KE-jet engine will run without a working OVP relay, it will run without the injection computer working but will not run without a working ignition computer. You do have spark? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again
Interesting. I do not see any tire wear, I noticed the noticeable camber as the car was going down the street. It just looked a bit too much, but maybe I am being too paranoid about it since this is a new car. Put that with what seemed to be a bit of floaty on the highway at speed. Did a pretty good inspection underneath today, everything looked good, not that I guess I could see excess camber or bad mounts or joints or whatever. Perhaps I should take some meds -- I have some that came from Scotland that might help. --R Loren Faeth wrote: You can patch things along a while by putting some twist-in spring spacers for a while. It will take 2-3 for each spring. This will reduce the tire wear on the inside. Loren BTDT At 08:02 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: OK, guess that one will be one for a future effort as no time now. Thanks... --R LWB250 wrote: Subframe mounts, as others have stated. This is a pretty easy and relatively inexpensive job. A bit of brute force, but if you plan in advance and soak everything well with penetrating lube you'll be fine. Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subframe mounts, at least, and maybe/probably the trailing arm bushings too. At 12:25 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: So on the new 300SD the rear seem to be a bit squatty, and wheels look like maybe they have some excess camber? Or are they supposed to be like that? Driving the car on the highway at 70ish it seems to wander just a tad, I'm wo(a)ndering if both might be indicative of rear subframe mounts needing replacement, or something else? --R 84300SD (son's) 79300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bosch injector rebuild on 600SEL V12
Hi James, I've cleaned my own injectors on a CIS car, but that's different than yours. There are many places that will clean old injectors. They will often take a picture of the before and after spray pattern to show you the difference. Not sure if there's a difference between new and cleaned. Maybe at some level, just as rebuild never seems as good and brand new, even when brought back to factory spec. Having said that, I've used rebuilt parts that have outlasted factory new, and I know several friends who had injectors cleaned with amazing results. Only injectors I have any personal experience with are those we had cleaned while we were rebuilding the top end of a porsche 928 32V, and those on the above mentioned car (911). With that car, it made a really big difference, just as it did with mine.. Oh, the injectors were cleaned just before the 928 rebuild, but that's another story.Can't remember the price, but I think it was about $20 each. I think many of the internal parts on those W140 were the same, to save manufacturing costs, so if they are the same injectors as a V8, places may even offer an exchange to save you the wait time, as I'm sure there were many more V8s made. Good luck. Once cleaned, buckle up and hold on!!! ;-) Ed 300E 911SC On 28/06/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers where would I send my Bosch injectors to get rebuilt and calibrated? Is there any difference in performance or longevity versus new? Car is a 1992 600SEL V12 with 139900 miles on it. Dealership told me that four of the injectors were bad when they tried putting top end of engine back together. Thanks James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bosch injector rebuild on 600SEL V12
I used to test the injectors in the 300E's 280E's 280CE I used to run. Those with bad spray patterns would not straighten out, even with good injector cleaner. This tells me that the pattern change was due to wear, not contamination. I used to clean re-calibrate my diesel injectors the process is not that difficult with the right tools. But even diesel injectors will wear to the point where the pattern isn't right it's time to replace parts. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/28/07 10:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bosch injector rebuild on 600SEL V12 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Hi James, I've cleaned my own injectors on a CIS car, but that's different than yours. There are many places that will clean old injectors. They will often take a picture of the before and after spray pattern to show you the difference. Not sure if there's a difference between new and cleaned. Maybe at some level, just as rebuild never seems as good and brand new, even when brought back to factory spec. Having said that, I've used rebuilt parts that have outlasted factory new, and I know several friends who had injectors cleaned with amazing results. Only injectors I have any personal experience with are those we had cleaned while we were rebuilding the top end of a porsche 928 32V, and those on the above mentioned car (911). With that car, it made a really big difference, just as it did with mine.. Oh, the injectors were cleaned just before the 928 rebuild, but that's another story.Can't remember the price, but I think it was about $20 each. I think many of the internal parts on those W140 were the same, to save manufacturing costs, so if they are the same injectors as a V8, places may even offer an exchange to save you the wait time, as I'm sure there were many more V8s made. Good luck. Once cleaned, buckle up and hold on!!! ;-) Ed 300E 911SC On 28/06/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers where would I send my Bosch injectors to get rebuilt and calibrated? Is there any difference in performance or longevity versus new? Car is a 1992 600SEL V12 with 139900 miles on it. Dealership told me that four of the injectors were bad when they tried putting top end of engine back together. Thanks James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun
I'm trying alternating cans of plain with cans with oil - haven't been doing it long enough for any results yet, other than that I'm still cool. (So is my wife!). On 6/28/07, Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, et al. I was just kicking going down, I'll have to trust to dumb luck and put in oil too. Thanks. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun
OK Don, et al. A cool wife is a treasure. As I'm sure she will tell you! Klatta on! Fred Moir Lynn MA German oil burners. OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying alternating cans of plain with cans with oil - haven't been doing it long enough for any results yet, other than that I'm still cool. (So is my wife!). - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun/oil?
In a message dated 6/28/2007 3:46:46 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, All. Wife's 99 Toy is loosing it's cool. Still works but not as cool as it was. I have RTFM and have all necessary stuff and tools. The Question is this:- if some portion of the gas has leaked out, and presumably some of the oil, how do you estimate the quantity of oil remaining? Do I use one of those charge cans with oil, or will that over oil things? Hot and sweaty dope wants to know. (correction NEEDS to know! Wifely comment) Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD 99 Toyota Crow roller VE, the cheap one. Fred, A typical auto AC system holds about 8 ounces of oil and the compressor will probably live with as little as 2 ounces. The oil becomes a blend with the freon and moves through the system as a fog. look for accumulations of dirt on your AC piping to get a feel for any oil loss. A slight knocking in the compressor should be clue to shut er down until oil is added. Checker currently has the 18 ounce R134 kit from SubZero on sale for $17.95. It contains two ounces of synthetic oil and some leak sealer. Similar recharges exist for R12 systems. I would plan to ad 2 ounces of oil with any charge approximating 14-18 ounces. That is a 7 to one leak ratio and may well save your compressor. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun
On 6/28/07, Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All. Wife's 99 Toy is loosing it's cool. Still works but not as cool as it was. I have RTFM and have all necessary stuff and tools. The Question is this:- if some portion of the gas has leaked out, and presumably some of the oil, how do you estimate the quantity of oil remaining? Do I use one of those charge cans with oil, or will that over oil things? I'd use one of the premeasured R134 recharge cans with oil included, myself, and hope for the best. You can even get them with dye included as well if you suspect a leak and want to track it down the lazy way. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bosch injector rebuild on 600SEL V12
I never owned the proper machine to test and clean injectors with electrical connections. I would imagine that was a pretty pricey machine, as I know a special solution was run through them under pressure, not gas and a cleaner, and you needed the machine to cycle the injector to clean the pintal (sp), unlike the ones on the CIS which don't really have any moving parts, and just squirt all the time, hence the name. I would just take those out, give them good clean, then hook them up and put them into clean water bottle and watch the pattern. Have to be very careful tought, you are dealing with raw fuel and the CIS system can be under 100 psi!! Most places that you send out to will take a pic of the spray pattern after clean. If it still looks bad, guess a new injector is the next step. Good look. Ed On 29/06/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to test the injectors in the 300E's 280E's 280CE I used to run. Those with bad spray patterns would not straighten out, even with good injector cleaner. This tells me that the pattern change was due to wear, not contamination. I used to clean re-calibrate my diesel injectors the process is not that difficult with the right tools. But even diesel injectors will wear to the point where the pattern isn't right it's time to replace parts. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/28/07 10:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bosch injector rebuild on 600SEL V12 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Hi James, I've cleaned my own injectors on a CIS car, but that's different than yours. There are many places that will clean old injectors. They will often take a picture of the before and after spray pattern to show you the difference. Not sure if there's a difference between new and cleaned. Maybe at some level, just as rebuild never seems as good and brand new, even when brought back to factory spec. Having said that, I've used rebuilt parts that have outlasted factory new, and I know several friends who had injectors cleaned with amazing results. Only injectors I have any personal experience with are those we had cleaned while we were rebuilding the top end of a porsche 928 32V, and those on the above mentioned car (911). With that car, it made a really big difference, just as it did with mine.. Oh, the injectors were cleaned just before the 928 rebuild, but that's another story.Can't remember the price, but I think it was about $20 each. I think many of the internal parts on those W140 were the same, to save manufacturing costs, so if they are the same injectors as a V8, places may even offer an exchange to save you the wait time, as I'm sure there were many more V8s made. Good luck. Once cleaned, buckle up and hold on!!! ;-) Ed 300E 911SC On 28/06/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers where would I send my Bosch injectors to get rebuilt and calibrated? Is there any difference in performance or longevity versus new? Car is a 1992 600SEL V12 with 139900 miles on it. Dealership told me that four of the injectors were bad when they tried putting top end of engine back together. Thanks James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
