Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
For that 'soil' you need to do what we do in many parts of the FL Keys. You dig out a hole about the size of a pot and fill it with dirt. Drainage is less a problem with coral than it is with heavy clay, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats] Most of the plantings at the home we built in Wisconsin died within the first year. Because we were on a bluff at the shoreline, the ground was heavy (and I mean HEAVY) clay. You could dig a hole, pour a bucket of water in it, and it would take literally weeks to drain (if the water didn't evaporate first.) I kid you not, I bent a shovel blade when trying to dig a hole in the stuff. I even used a hydraulic power auger to drill the holes for my deck footers, and I had to hang on the top of the auger arm to force it into the soil. Dan --- Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably too much water then, and poor drainage. Check the soil -- if soaked, you will have to find a way to get the water to drain. It should be damp, not full of water. Do not water unless the soil is quite dry and the leaves droop. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Hi Ed `Ed wrote: I LOVE Eagle One leather care - does it have a pleasant aroma? Does it smell like Leather or something else? Thx -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean Not sure if this is an open question to the list, but for what it's worth, I use Mother's brand products, mostly the liquid wax. I find it goes on, dries and comes off easy.. I don't think it's the hardest or longest lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for fun and to relax, so that's not a big issue. And, it makes the cars smell nice. :-) I may try something a little harder and longer lasting once winter arrives. For leather, I LOVE Eagle One leather care. I've used it for about 15 years now and I think it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to use it sparingly and will often cut it with a little water if I can't find the low sheen stuff. Ed 300E 911SC On 18/07/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What product(s) do use? Thanks Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean I'm just amazed that Rodger cleans his own cars, I would have thought he would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down to 50c for a complete detail inside and out. First of all, there is no d in my name. As to cleaning my own cars, you have no idea. I will put the cosmetic condition of either one up against ANY vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive car cleaner since my very first car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, it is washed and detailed inside and out before being covering in the garage. The black C320, being driven nearly every day, is a lot more work to keep as clean and shiny as possible. But, after years of using this and that polish and wax, I have found the brand that reduces the work needed and the time required. Use a commercial car wash? Over my dead body. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's been mentioned countless times on this list that resetting the trip odometer while in motion breaks things. It's also been said (though less often) that this is a myth and any trip odometer breakage resulting from a reset-while-driving is just cooincidence. So, what to believe? I err on the side of caution and only reset mine while I'm stopped. Normally I do this when I've refueled, before I pull away from the pump. That way I can easily check my fuel mileage with each refill. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's not required to say where the product is produced. I find often when made in the US, the tend to stamp it with pride. If no label, I tend to conclude it's not US made. Just got a Craftsman Tool mailing from Sears, in it they have a little USA flag icon next to all the tools that are US-made. Most of the wrenches were. The screwdrivers, pliers, and a few other things did not have the icon. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
Hi, All. My odo is stuck between 000 and 009 and the button stayed down, the direct result of not thinking and resetting the odo while moving. I'd venture that is not so much a myth as not enough people have broken their odo whilst moving to convince the skeptics. My $0.002 Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT '87 140Kmi 300TD '85 ~140kmi Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey writes: It's been mentioned countless times on this list that resetting the trip odometer while in motion breaks things. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Greetings and Salutations. This tool thread is oddly timely as I have been searching for a second (backup) of an Husky ratchet 22203 that is particularly useful, handy if you will. I called Husky (Stanley) and the said that it was only available in sets at big box stores (House brand at Home Depot) and they would be glad to send me one for free. Well, it arrived yesterday, a close copy but made in China, not as my original, Made in the good old US of A! What ever you get for free is worth what you pay for it (forgot the attribution) Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M writes: Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's not required to say where the product is produced. I find often when made in the US, the tend to stamp it with pride. If no label, I tend to conclude it's not US made. - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve - OZ
You have a closet Akubra? What's an Akubra? On 7/18/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucky dog. I live for the day I can go back to Oz. Used to visit Sydney, Brisbane and Perth annually. Occasionally a quick jaunt to Melbourne and Hobart, and a little time in the outback as well, as my rep there had relatives at a sheep station. Lots of fun. Dan (the Akubra is in the closet, ready to go!) --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot that you are in OZ. I need to visit one day. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve The problem with the 123 set up is that the little wheel spins on the little shaft and what happens when you press the little reset button while moving is that you put extra pressure on the little wheel which spins on the little shaft and eventually the little shaft turns but the little wheel does not and then you have to take the instrument cluster out and do a very fiddly job of repairing the little wheel so it turns with the little shaft again. Far as refuelling goes, nothing wrong with doing what you do if there are plenty of service stations along the way but I would not recommend it when you are not sure about fuel avaiability. I realise the situation over there is different to what we have here but a golden rule when driving in the outback is to have enough fuel to get to not the next fuel place but the one beyond that. Reason being that sometimes a small outback fuel station may have shut down, run out of fuel, or have another reason for not being able to supply fuel. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve Resetting the trip while moving hurts nothing. The real issue is that a small plastic part inside disintegrates with age. And as far as filling up when almost empty, I do it all the time. I burn about 2 tanks of fuel a week filling up when I have to means I only have to stand in front of the pump twice a week, as opposed to 3 or 4 times a week. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars / Detailing
Other than the fact that it is a total PIA to apply the Leathereek system, the results are excellent. On 7/18/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget the Eagle One for the upholstery. Use Leatherique. The stuff is nothing short of amazing. Not that your interior would need it, but I have used it to recover the nastiest, hardest leather from old MBs that you ever saw. If you follow George's instructions, you won't be disappointed. And the owners, George and Krystal are realy great people who are car enthusiasts like us. They are very accessible and responsive to any questions or inquiries about their products. If you contact them, tell them I referred you (nothing in this for me, I just like them to know that we're getting the word out.) There are others on the list who are familiar with their products, too. Fantastic stuff and worth every penny. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must pick up a bottle of 303. Also, I must stock up on wax and especially Eagle One leater care as my auto store seems to stop carring a lot of stuff over the winter months. Even though I store the porsche over the winter, I still go out into the garage and wax it often to pass the time. Guess for most, there isn't much of a call for wax when there's a foot or two of snow on the ground. :-) Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've become a big fan of 303. I use it on the plastic panels on the MB, all rubber, it even does a good job on metal. I also found it doesn;t smear of harm glass when I get overspray on it I can buff it until it polishes out. Also, it does not contain any silicones which is a big problem when a car is repainted or used around cars being repainted . Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drying cars. The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time. The thing that's really great about it is that it has UV blockers in it, which as you would expect, are pretty important when it comes to boats Another alternative for things like dash pads is suntan lotion, believe it or not. That's what George of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely an expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring interior materials. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, some I purchased from a salon, which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for the 303 tips. Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use towels rather than a chamois, never, ever use fabric softener on them, as it causes streaking. Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as synthetics can actually scratch paint. I have a set of towels designated for nothing but car drying. Also, something far better for your plastics and vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny climate - 303 Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply place like West Marine. Expensive, but probably the best stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No silicones in it like gasp ArmorAll. Dan, a.k.a. Mercedes Martha Stewart --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabric Softener and Towels: If you use fabric softener in the dryer, you will find the absorbency of towels will be greatly reduced. I used to find that those towels would leave water droplets on my skin after bathing. Same thing probably applies to soaking up water after washing one's car For drying a car, I use one of those artificial chamois In AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined with high temps makes it virtually impossible to get a spotless wash job if I do it in my driveway... I use one of the touchless car washes that has alkaline free water, then just use that artificial chamois They also recycle the water they use. Just my $.02 Take care, Chuck Phoenix ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe
Re: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING
I can't believe that is a FACTORY color. It had to be repainted using a cheap lookalike. On 7/19/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:25:35 -0400 Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brought to you by Ebay, a Show Car... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unique-1977-Ford-Mustang-II-Show-Car_W0QQitemZ160137678977QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6236QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I thought these got crushed long ago. Especially in colors like those. Maybe that's why he says the color is rare ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes-It's Carriage House MB, and the art museum in New London CT. They are selling 600 chances for $65.00 each. I saw the car-it's showroom-I fell for it. Will have to skip Powerball for a few weeks if I don't win it. If I do win it, I will have to get a diesel scented air freshener. Dwight http://www.lymanallyn.org/gala/index.html How come the wheels are different on the passenger side and driver side? Are these two different cars in the photos? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 20, Issue 110
I've put on 2 applications of the Leatherique product of the oil rejuvenator the pristine clean. I was hardly impressed. For all the work it took, it sure did remove a lot of the leather dye from my seats and left a dull finish. Still card board hard in the 87 SDL. Roger Forget the Eagle One for the upholstery. Use Leatherique. The stuff is nothing short of amazing. Not that your interior would need it, but I have used it to recover the nastiest, hardest leather from old MBs that you ever saw. If you follow George's instructions, you won't be disappointed. And the owners, George and Krystal are realy great people who are car enthusiasts like us. They are very accessible and responsive to any questions or inquiries about their products. If you contact them, tell them I referred you (nothing in this for me, I just like them to know that we're getting the word out.) There are others on the list who are familiar with their products, too. Fantastic stuff and worth every penny. Dan _ Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all in one place! Find it! http://maps.live.com/?wip=69FORM=MGAC01 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] RustyQ 2007
We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. Please let me know if you are a faithful attendee and would not be able to attend in Iowa, but would attend in Atlanta. Also let me know if you would attend in Iowa, but couldn't make the Atlanta trip. The Q would be great in either location. Those that have never heard of it or never attended, it is a real classic event. There is plenty of free grub beer soda. Meet lots of strange people driving these old beater Mercedes and even small dogs that look like toys. Last year we had a Texas Hold'em exhibition given by none other than Jabba the Hurst, World Champion extraordinaire. There is really no Mercedes event quite like this one. So if you want to meet some cool folks and eat and drink for free, let me know. Call 1-800-741-5252 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Thanks. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
And by the time you pay taxes on the so called value of $23.900.00, that amount alone equals a market value of a street priced 380SL! On 7/19/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes-It's Carriage House MB, and the art museum in New London CT. They are selling 600 chances for $65.00 each. I saw the car-it's showroom-I fell for it. Will have to skip Powerball for a few weeks if I don't win it. If I do win it, I will have to get a diesel scented air freshener. Dwight http://www.lymanallyn.org/gala/index.html How come the wheels are different on the passenger side and driver side? Are these two different cars in the photos? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Hi Larry, It has a very nice smell, and mild, but nothing added things to make your car smell like the beach or a rose patch. I use to us Lexol or something, and what I didn't like about it was, if you got a drop of rain or water on it, it would leave a mark. I think it started off as a saddle hide food, and a friend of mine who rides told me that it can be hard on the stitching too. Eagle One is rubbed in with your hands and the extra just buffed off after a few minutes. If anything, I'd say it smells like unscented handcream. Ed 911SC-dark brown leater interior + dash. On 19/07/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ed `Ed wrote: I LOVE Eagle One leather care - does it have a pleasant aroma? Does it smell like Leather or something else? Thx -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean Not sure if this is an open question to the list, but for what it's worth, I use Mother's brand products, mostly the liquid wax. I find it goes on, dries and comes off easy.. I don't think it's the hardest or longest lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for fun and to relax, so that's not a big issue. And, it makes the cars smell nice. :-) I may try something a little harder and longer lasting once winter arrives. For leather, I LOVE Eagle One leather care. I've used it for about 15 years now and I think it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to use it sparingly and will often cut it with a little water if I can't find the low sheen stuff. Ed 300E 911SC On 18/07/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What product(s) do use? Thanks Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean I'm just amazed that Rodger cleans his own cars, I would have thought he would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down to 50c for a complete detail inside and out. First of all, there is no d in my name. As to cleaning my own cars, you have no idea. I will put the cosmetic condition of either one up against ANY vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive car cleaner since my very first car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, it is washed and detailed inside and out before being covering in the garage. The black C320, being driven nearly every day, is a lot more work to keep as clean and shiny as possible. But, after years of using this and that polish and wax, I have found the brand that reduces the work needed and the time required. Use a commercial car wash? Over my dead body. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
I remember an old J.C.Penny catalog about 20 years ago had little flags beside all the listed items. I thought it was a great idea and I'd love to see it here. Ed 300E On 19/07/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's not required to say where the product is produced. I find often when made in the US, the tend to stamp it with pride. If no label, I tend to conclude it's not US made. Just got a Craftsman Tool mailing from Sears, in it they have a little USA flag icon next to all the tools that are US-made. Most of the wrenches were. The screwdrivers, pliers, and a few other things did not have the icon. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
John Freer wrote: And by the time you pay taxes on the so called value of $23.900.00, that amount alone equals a market value of a street priced 380SL! I don't know what a documented 24,000 mile '85 SL is worth, (of if the car in question is documented) but it should be a lot more than the tax on 24k. How's this sound: Sell me the car for 10k, and then use the sale to prove that the gambling earnings were only 10k. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Trip meters was Re: - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
Allen S. Wrote: It's also been said (though less often) that this is a myth and any trip odometer breakage resulting from a reset-while-driving is just cooincidence. I err on the side of caution and only reset mine while I'm stopped. That is a good observation. I had a 1982 280E and the Odometer stopped working one time when I reset the trip meter. It would click off tenths of a mile, then when it got to .9 it would make the ODOMETER stop. I drove around like that for a week. I got gas and was messing with the trip meter while going down the highway. If I held the trip meter down half way (without resetting it) the odometer worked. As soon as I stopped, I reset the trip meter and the Odometer started working again. I never pushed the trip meter again unless completely stopped and the odometer keep working without any problems. Donald H. Snook 1990 300 SEL 138K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
Rusty Cullens wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. So long as they are not on the same weekend I would attend both (no more excuses this year! I'm coming... even if its not in an MB!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Welder, again
I see HF has their *110 AMP, 220 VOLT FLUX AND MIG WELDER on sale for $170 save $100, if anyone is interested in giving a potential POS a try. **http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=94164 --R * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
I just might. I still have not bought one, been looking at the Lincoln unit but at nearly $700 I have not sprung for it yet. Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see HF has their *110 AMP, 220 VOLT FLUX AND MIG WELDER on sale for $170 save $100, if anyone is interested in giving a potential POS a try. **http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=94164 --R -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
Only about $15K due to low demand. People want the 560 more than the 380 if they are collecting the W107 cars. On 7/19/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: And by the time you pay taxes on the so called value of $23.900.00, that amount alone equals a market value of a street priced 380SL! I don't know what a documented 24,000 mile '85 SL is worth, (of if the car in question is documented) but it should be a lot more than the tax on 24k. How's this sound: Sell me the car for 10k, and then use the sale to prove that the gambling earnings were only 10k. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
Why limit to one location? Sounds like the Rusty Q is a great franchising opportunity! On 7/19/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. So long as they are not on the same weekend I would attend both (no more excuses this year! I'm coming... even if its not in an MB!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
So, you have a Rusty clone machine hidden away somewhere? Please let us know because I'd like to motivate the local Stealership to replace their parts people with someone who can spell Mercedes. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/19/07 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007 Why limit to one location? Sounds like the Rusty Q is a great franchising opportunity! On 7/19/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. So long as they are not on the same weekend I would attend both (no more excuses this year! I'm coming... even if its not in an MB!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
send me $500 made to cash for your official rustyQ franchise and starter kit On 7/19/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why limit to one location? Sounds like the Rusty Q is a great franchising opportunity! On 7/19/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. So long as they are not on the same weekend I would attend both (no more excuses this year! I'm coming... even if its not in an MB!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300TE problems
Aside form the intermittent ignition problem on the 380SL, now the 300TE (88) has developed 2 possibly related or unrelated weird occasional problems. Twice, while making a left turn, it has died. After coming to a stop, with the shifter in P it will restart, no problem, and all is fine The incidents were about a week apart. the first time, a couple hours later, the transmission didn't want to shift out of first. Fortunately, that was close to home. The next morning, the car ran ok. The second time, today, both happened at the same time, on the left turn. SWMBO drove the car the rest of the way to work in first. Any ideas? Are these in any way related? Overvoltage relay or some such thing? I didn't think there were any electronics that affected the trans other than N and P switches. The ignition problem is different than the 380, because on the 380, when the ignition fails, it is dead until the car cools off. I think that is the ICM. Will test the theory when I get another ICM to swap. The TE seems to be something different, very intermittent. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
Why do you go to the local stealership? Haven't you learned yet? We have Rusty. Don't need no stealership! I have not purchased anything from a stealership for years. At 02:25 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote: So, you have a Rusty clone machine hidden away somewhere? Please let us know because I'd like to motivate the local Stealership to replace their parts people with someone who can spell Mercedes. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/19/07 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007 Why limit to one location? Sounds like the Rusty Q is a great franchising opportunity! On 7/19/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. So long as they are not on the same weekend I would attend both (no more excuses this year! I'm coming... even if its not in an MB!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip meters was Re: - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
Another trick is to pull out and hold the reset knob and let it spring back. Do this a couple of times. On 7/19/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen S. Wrote: It's also been said (though less often) that this is a myth and any trip odometer breakage resulting from a reset-while-driving is just cooincidence. I err on the side of caution and only reset mine while I'm stopped. That is a good observation. I had a 1982 280E and the Odometer stopped working one time when I reset the trip meter. It would click off tenths of a mile, then when it got to .9 it would make the ODOMETER stop. I drove around like that for a week. I got gas and was messing with the trip meter while going down the highway. If I held the trip meter down half way (without resetting it) the odometer worked. As soon as I stopped, I reset the trip meter and the Odometer started working again. I never pushed the trip meter again unless completely stopped and the odometer keep working without any problems. Donald H. Snook 1990 300 SEL 138K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
Two phillips screws on the underside of the wood and it lifts up to unhook at the top. four small screws hold the PBU to the console frame. Two large connectors to pull off, and it's out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MBZ 300D Turbo Smoking/Idling Problem
I finally found out what the problem was! Last month I posted a smoking/idling problem my 87 300D Turbo had. I removed the fuel injection pump and it has a hole in the side of the pump the size of a quarter and another hole the size of a 'bb' on the lower right side (against the engine). When I tilted the pump a few ball bearing rolled out of the hole. I am suprized because my car only has 220,000 miles on it. Within a week or so I hope to have my parts and a few specialty tools for installation. I'm sure I'll be asking additional questions as I get it all back together. Thank you Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Seat refinishing
Just read an interesting article about refinishing seats. SOme of you have talked about Leatherique, etc and some other methods - this article says the leather seats are treated very similarily to the paint on the body. For instance, severe problem areas are sanded to reach good material. Also, the seats being restored are in a 1991 Porsche 911. The leather was painted originally and coated with a clear coat to keep the leather from transferring to your pants. Deep cracks are filled with a filler which is flexible and permanent and lasts for years. The painting must match the original color and is then clear coated. The piping is painted also - by hand much like pin striping. Anyway, that's the short version.I get this magazine on CD from a frined but it may be 6 months before he sends it to me. But at that time I can probably share it a little easier to anyone interested. Later ya'll Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
For what it's worth coming from a relative newbie like me: I think OT is a good thing. I realize, though, that it can annoying for those without a system like gmail. For me, it is very much about commaraderie (sp?) with those who share similar interests (well at least one interest - I'm not sure how much I really have in common with most of you you successful old timerss who know how to work on cars). I have been known to leave notes on windshields of Benzes telling them about this list. Well, I did this in SE Minnesota where these Benzes are very rare. I am this way with my dog interest too - I feel all Doberman owners have something very strong in common (the trials and tribulations of trying to live with these hardheaded beasts). So yes, I probably do need to get a life. In fact I know I do. But I don't think the OT hurts the list too much. I strongly recommend just signing up for gmail, and letting the OT flow! It is really interesting – even helpful at times. How else would I know that people actually employ goats for weed control? Brian On 7/17/07, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: people that use an e-mail list to get to know people don't understand the concept of what an e-mail list is for, and/or haven't played enough e-mail to understand how quickly it makes a topic-specific list useless. want to socialize through a computer? that's what IM programs and Chat Rooms are for! so bored that you rely on an e-mail list for your entertainment? short of getting a real life, try browsing through the many web forums available on the 'net; odds are if a lists activity is your idea of entertaining, you shouldn't find it too difficult to find something that will help you keep yourself entertained. sorting by Subject line and deleting entire threads is what i tend to have to do with this list; sadly, i have to do more of it for this list than any other i've ever seen. the Signal-to-Noise ratio here is pitiful, but i keep sifting through it for the little gems of wisdom that occasionally (albeit increasingly all too infrequently) come through. the fact that so many here don't seem to be able to change a Subject Line to something relevant to the topic being discussed only makes it more difficult to sift through the substantial chaff here, and only make it harder to glean any relevant info for themselves or others. cheers! e Allan Streib wrote: There has been a lot. I think it adds a dimension of getting to know people, as much as that's possible over email, but see how it could be annoying to someone on Digest mode or only checking periodically. If you have an email reader that can group messages by thread it's pretty easy to kill threads that are not interesting or have wandered off topic. But not all email readers do that well. Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there anyone who thinks there is way too much Off Topic material here on the list? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Where do you get the sale price? On the web it's listing at $270. Do you have to go to a retail store to get that? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94164 I recall some hacking that could be done with HF links to get the same item to show up at different prices, but not recalling the specifics. Allan Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see HF has their *110 AMP, 220 VOLT FLUX AND MIG WELDER on sale for $170 save $100, if anyone is interested in giving a potential POS a try. **http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=94164 --R * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
I have pictures of the whole job, including disassembly of the PBU and resoldering the boards. Lots of pics, so don't ask unless you've got a big mailbox and lots of bandwidth. I took them in anticipation of putting them up on my Web site. I also have pics for recalibrating the compressor shutoff thermocouple, too. Dan --- Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two phillips screws on the underside of the wood and it lifts up to unhook at the top. four small screws hold the PBU to the console frame. Two large connectors to pull off, and it's out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Allan Streib wrote: I recall some hacking that could be done with HF links to get the same item to show up at different prices, but not recalling the specifics. Click on 'order from catalog'. The item number is five numbers, a dash, and one number followed by three letters. The letters tell which catalog, the first five numbers are the item number, and the number with the letters is the price code. I'm pretty sure they fixed it a couple of years ago so you can't just try all ten price codes and pick the best. Was fun while it lasted though. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TE problems
Check the kickdown switch for a short -- this will keep the tranny in first much longer than you want to push it, although it WILL upshift (near the redline mark, or about 35 mph on that car, I think). Dying on a turn left only sounds like a bad wire or defective crank position sensor (on the rear of the block). Could be another wire shorting out, such as a bad coil wire or coil to distributor. Also check the cap and rotor -- these are known for defective rotors and a left turn could be causing a problem (although why only left would affect the rotor doesn't make sense). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
Is this for a W123 or a W124 chassis? The W124 PBU is all solid state, and does not suffer from circuit board cracks nearly so much as the W123 one (relays soldered down). The thermocouple on the W124 is a thermistor, not a switch. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
Every once in a while you need a part NOW. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/19/07 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007 Why do you go to the local stealership? Haven't you learned yet? We have Rusty. Don't need no stealership! I have not purchased anything from a stealership for years. At 02:25 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote: So, you have a Rusty clone machine hidden away somewhere? Please let us know because I'd like to motivate the local Stealership to replace their parts people with someone who can spell Mercedes. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/19/07 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007 Why limit to one location? Sounds like the Rusty Q is a great franchising opportunity! On 7/19/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. So long as they are not on the same weekend I would attend both (no more excuses this year! I'm coming... even if its not in an MB!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
There is nothing in the mechanism that will cause the button to stick or fail only when you are moving. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/19/07 8:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT Hi, All. My odo is stuck between 000 and 009 and the button stayed down, the direct result of not thinking and resetting the odo while moving. I'd venture that is not so much a myth as not enough people have broken their odo whilst moving to convince the skeptics. My $0.002 Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT '87 140Kmi 300TD '85 ~140kmi Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey writes: It's been mentioned countless times on this list that resetting the trip odometer while in motion breaks things. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
So, would the person with the catalog listing the $170 price be so kind as to post the full item code? I did try cycling through the 10 options and got $269.99 for each of them. Allan Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan Streib wrote: I recall some hacking that could be done with HF links to get the same item to show up at different prices, but not recalling the specifics. Click on 'order from catalog'. The item number is five numbers, a dash, and one number followed by three letters. The letters tell which catalog, the first five numbers are the item number, and the number with the letters is the price code. I'm pretty sure they fixed it a couple of years ago so you can't just try all ten price codes and pick the best. Was fun while it lasted though. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Allan Streib wrote: So, would the person with the catalog listing the $170 price be so kind as to post the full item code? I did try cycling through the 10 options and got $269.99 for each of them. If it was a store flyer, it would only have the five digit item number in it. Let's hope it was a mail order catalog. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it was a store flyer, it would only have the five digit item number in it. Let's hope it was a mail order catalog. Meaning, they do have some prices that are only available in the retail stores? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] RustyQ 2007
We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. This is to see if anyone is interested in changing venues. Please let me know if you are a faithful attendee and would not be able to attend in Iowa, but would attend in Atlanta. Also let me know if you would attend in Iowa, but couldn't make the Atlanta trip. The Q would be great in either location. Those that have never heard of it or never attended, it is a real classic event. There is plenty of free grub beer soda. Meet lots of strange people driving these old beater Mercedes and even small dogs that look like toys. Last year we had a Texas Hold'em exhibition given by none other than Jabba the Hurst, World Champion extraordinaire. There is really no Mercedes event quite like this one. So if you want to meet some cool folks and eat and drink for free, let me know. Call 1-800-741-5252 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Thanks. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
Remove the rubber covering and take out the screws that hold the TS stalk on.. DWS andrew strasfogel wrote: I didn't in my W108 so probably - almost certainly - NOT. On 7/18/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Andrew and Darrell - Do I assume correctly that I have to remove the steering wheel to get at this or is the stalk removable in another manner? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue There is a rather straightforward procedure to remove the stalk and file the detent with a small triangular file to regain the hold, but as I haven't done this in 20 years I can only misinform you if I try to remember the details... BTW, this is a VERY common problem in 108, 109, and W 114/115 cars. On 7/18/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to turn left, it works as it should. If I want to turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back to the center position. Is this adjustable in some manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something is becoming worn? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
If you sign up for their weekly email specials, they have coupons you can print out for a whole bunch of stuff. There is also a link to more coupons, more big discounts. If you are really interested I can forward the email directly to you. --R Allan Streib wrote: Where do you get the sale price? On the web it's listing at $270. Do you have to go to a retail store to get that? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94164 I recall some hacking that could be done with HF links to get the same item to show up at different prices, but not recalling the specifics. Allan Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see HF has their *110 AMP, 220 VOLT FLUX AND MIG WELDER on sale for $170 save $100, if anyone is interested in giving a potential POS a try. **http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=94164 --R * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Allan Streib wrote: Meaning, they do have some prices that are only available in the retail stores? It may be possible. The flyers for the stores don't have the price codes on the item numbers, so you can't use a store flyer to 'place order from the catalog' on the internet. I don't know what would happen if you called the toll free number and asked for the store pricing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Ah, there is a little text link at the top to view this email online Never saw that before, but never looked for it either. http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/emails/display.do?fname=29_RetailA.html --R Allan Streib wrote: So, would the person with the catalog listing the $170 price be so kind as to post the full item code? I did try cycling through the 10 options and got $269.99 for each of them. Allan Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan Streib wrote: I recall some hacking that could be done with HF links to get the same item to show up at different prices, but not recalling the specifics. Click on 'order from catalog'. The item number is five numbers, a dash, and one number followed by three letters. The letters tell which catalog, the first five numbers are the item number, and the number with the letters is the price code. I'm pretty sure they fixed it a couple of years ago so you can't just try all ten price codes and pick the best. Was fun while it lasted though. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, there is a little text link at the top to view this email online Never saw that before, but never looked for it either. http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/emails/display.do?fname=29_RetailA.html Offer good for in-store purchases only Might just have to run up to Indianapolis tomorrow. At that price it's hard not to give it a try. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 7/17/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting that ALL the tools from a specific country are of the same quality? Of course not! I don't pretend to have anything other than anecdotal evidence, but I have noticed that there seems to be a correlation in the quality of machined items and their country of origin. I noticed the exact same quality hierarchy when working at a bicycle shop that sold a lot of imported Far Eastern bikes : mainland Chinese stuff the worst, Taiwanese better, and Korean and Japanese obviously superior. It's been my experience that in most countries, manufacturers are willing and able to supply whatever quality you're willing to pay for. Most people don't go to china for high quality, high priced items, but if they did, they'd likely find manufacturers willing and able to match most quality specifications. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
I am lucky that the store I go to is way across town, it keeps me from going there to buy all those great buys, which then gather dust, but they're there if I need them. --R Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, there is a little text link at the top to view this email online Never saw that before, but never looked for it either. http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/emails/display.do?fname=29_RetailA.html Offer good for in-store purchases only Might just have to run up to Indianapolis tomorrow. At that price it's hard not to give it a try. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] quality, was Brake Lines
Marshall Booth wrote: It's been my experience that in most countries, manufacturers are willing and able to supply whatever quality you're willing to pay for. Most people don't go to china for high quality, high priced items, but if they did, they'd likely find manufacturers willing and able to match most quality specifications. A friend of mine, third generation owner of an airgun dealership, got this great idea to bring back the Crosman 160 and 167. He met with an airgun manufacturer in Shanghai, they settled on the specs, and production began. They made barrels of incredible quality at first, but quality declined as they refused to replace the tooling used to rifle the barrels as it became worn. There were certain steps he insisted be undertaken in assembly, which they refused to do. He also insisted on top quality seals, which they refused to use. But that would make it cost more Do it, and I'll pay more... but it never happened. He finally had them ship the metal and wood parts to him in California and he built the rifles himself with US sourced seals and careful hand fitting of the parts. Then Shanghai ramped up manufacturing and sold cheap versions of his design to other distributors. I bought a box of five knock-offs for $195 when he was selling his rifles for $85ea. I took them apart, had him rebuild the valves to his standards and bought proper urethane seals from him, and fixed the triggers while I waited for the parts to come back from California. OTOH, I know another fellow who has high end bicycle frames built in China with no quality issues that I know of. The welding is done by little old ladies who have been welding MiG airframes for decades, and they do know how to weld titanium properly. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] quality, was Brake Lines
In the late 80s and early to mid 90s, I used to do business in Kaoshuing and Taipei, Taiwan. Their ability to do knockoffs of darned near anything you could bring them was nothing short of amazing. The guy who was next to my customer was a specialist in making milling machines. You would see these big vertical and horizontal Cincinnati mills sitting on pallets in front of his place. They had been purchased out of country and shipped to him to copy. I stopped in and talked to the owner one day. He told me that he could make a copy of one of these machines in about a week, and it was difficult for the average person to tell the difference between the real one and the knockoff. They had good Rolex knock-offs, too. Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: It's been my experience that in most countries, manufacturers are willing and able to supply whatever quality you're willing to pay for. Most people don't go to china for high quality, high priced items, but if they did, they'd likely find manufacturers willing and able to match most quality specifications. A friend of mine, third generation owner of an airgun dealership, got this great idea to bring back the Crosman 160 and 167. He met with an airgun manufacturer in Shanghai, they settled on the specs, and production began. They made barrels of incredible quality at first, but quality declined as they refused to replace the tooling used to rifle the barrels as it became worn. There were certain steps he insisted be undertaken in assembly, which they refused to do. He also insisted on top quality seals, which they refused to use. But that would make it cost more Do it, and I'll pay more... but it never happened. He finally had them ship the metal and wood parts to him in California and he built the rifles himself with US sourced seals and careful hand fitting of the parts. Then Shanghai ramped up manufacturing and sold cheap versions of his design to other distributors. I bought a box of five knock-offs for $195 when he was selling his rifles for $85ea. I took them apart, had him rebuild the valves to his standards and bought proper urethane seals from him, and fixed the triggers while I waited for the parts to come back from California. OTOH, I know another fellow who has high end bicycle frames built in China with no quality issues that I know of. The welding is done by little old ladies who have been welding MiG airframes for decades, and they do know how to weld titanium properly. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
However it is good practise to only reset the tripmeter when the car is stopped, particularly on the 123 chassis. A good driver shouldn't be fiddling with reset buttons while they are driving anyway. I know, I know, most drivers do anything but drive. They do things like read the newspaper, talk/text on the phone, do the nails, fiddle with the stereo, eat/drink, have sex, etc, etc Then when the big bang occurs they come out with the old I only took my eyes off the road for a second, which is all very nice except for the dead kid who was just chasing his football. I don't know the situation over there but here the authorities are busy dumbing down the laws to take into account peoples stupidity. Some roads around town you can only 40k's an hour and getting caught talking on the phone is a couple of hundred bucks. There was just a case where someone got fined for talking on his hands free because the police deemed pushing the talk button on the phone was illegal. Kinda stupid when you consider that you can fiddle with the radio all day long. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Frederick Moir' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT There is nothing in the mechanism that will cause the button to stick or fail only when you are moving. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] quality, was Brake Lines
LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Their ability to do knockoffs of darned near anything you could bring them was nothing short of amazing. Well, they probably learned it from the Soviets. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve - OZ
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:26:27 -0400 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have a closet Akubra? What's an Akubra? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akubra ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:41:51 -0500, you wrote: Every once in a while you need a part NOW. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 That's when you should call Rusty fast. He can o'nite it to you. Your dealer can try to get the part and over charge you. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
I have a catalog in front of me that came a couple of days ago - what's the description of the Welder you want? I'll provide the catalog # and Item # - that should get what you want - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Welder, again Where do you get the sale price? On the web it's listing at $270. Do you have to go to a retail store to get that? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94164 I recall some hacking that could be done with HF links to get the same item to show up at different prices, but not recalling the specifics. Allan Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see HF has their *110 AMP, 220 VOLT FLUX AND MIG WELDER on sale for $170 save $100, if anyone is interested in giving a potential POS a try. **http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=94164 --R * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Just went thru the catalog and found 120 Amp, 230Volt, Flux and Mig Welder but theprice is shown as $299.99. I confirmed the prie in Order from cat as $299. Haven't seen anything with a $170 price. And Iseem to get their flyers and/or catalogs every day or 2. There's a number of other welders from $129 to $299 but none with that description. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Welder, again I see HF has their *110 AMP, 220 VOLT FLUX AND MIG WELDER on sale for $170 save $100, if anyone is interested in giving a potential POS a try. **http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=94164 --R * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chinese quality, when needed
My 2 cents (ok, maybe $2.00) worth. I have a set of wrenches in my tool box that I've owned for over 25 years. They are Chrome Vanadium steel, have served me very well over the years were made in China. My great grandchildren will be using these cheap (but high quality) wrenches because they refuse to die. I wish I knew who made them - they have no name brand but they have a very durable chrome plating, are marked with Chrome Vanadium and Made in China. I bought the entire set from a retail outlet that is no longer in business. I've split more Craftsman sockets than I care to count I've broken 2 Craftsman ratchets - at least they replace them for free. I twisted the end off 2 Great Neck 1/2 drive breaker bars (VW rear axle nuts / 200 lb feet of torque) - Auto-Zone also replace them for free. I've worn out several dozen Philip tip flat blade screw drivers. I've damaged my share of fittings with worn out tools. My overall experience with tools? Buy tools made of Chrome Vanadium steel, regardless of the manufacturer. Buy sockets ratchets breaker bars from local suppliers who will replace them on the spot - you can't wait for one to come in the mail if your car is sitting on jack stands in your driveway today. Never use a worn out tool on a fastener - it's never worth the damage. Oh, and we currently import chrome plated beer towers beer faucets from India the finish is absolutely perfect, better than the product we buy from stateside manufacturers. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:30 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chinese quality, when needed It's been my experience that in most countries, manufacturers are willing and able to supply whatever quality you're willing to pay for. Most people don't go to china for high quality, high priced items, but if they did, they'd likely find manufacturers willing and able to match most quality specifications. Such as: http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/aboutus/boechina.html RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TE problems
the first time, a couple hours later, the transmission didn't want to shift out of first. Chicken wagon did that a few times. After a fluid/filter change that problem is gone. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:57:20 -0400 Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. So I take it that you're coordinating with LT Don, aka Wonko the Sane, and will put it on in his locale instead of his proposed Iowa-Q. In any event, Iowa is easier for me to get to than Atlanta, though I can't say for sure whether I'll be able to make it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Chinese planes.
I just finished reading a book by the guy how was pretty much behind the design and building of the 747. While working on the 747, he was in China and noticed what was pretty much a copy of their then 707. The idea was that China wanted to make their on inhouse plane. I believe it never left the ground. Japan made the tail and other parts for the the SP version of the 747. The book made for a very interesting read, not only for those interested in aviation, but also, a look at some pretty impressive management skills! Anyone how is willing to buy planes has an involement in that they get a say as to the final specs. I think the 747 pretty much exists because of PanAm at the time. I think Japan will play a much larger roll in aviation in the future, and if anyone builds a concorde replacement, they will probably partner with someone else to make it happen. India is also growing quickly, currently developing their own planes. I think much of what has happened with China has been to make the odd thing for other companies, like MiG etc. Much the same as we Canadians saying we build cars. We just put the bits together for others. :-) Ed 300E On 19/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been my experience that in most countries, manufacturers are willing and able to supply whatever quality you're willing to pay for. Most people don't go to china for high quality, high priced items, but if they did, they'd likely find manufacturers willing and able to match most quality specifications. Such as: http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/aboutus/boechina.html RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
Peter T. Arnold wrote: That's when you should call Rusty fast. He can o'nite it to you. Your dealer can try to get the part and over charge you. I don't buy high dollar items from the dealer. I buy stuff from the dealer (the one in Huntsville actually charges list... not over like some of the crazy ones do) when its cheaper than $30 and thats all I need for a little while. The shipping charges aren't worth it then. I still think I only ever did that two or three times... I live in Starkville now... nearest dealership is 1.5 hours away. So Rusty gets it all :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
Exactly. Consider it the ultimate two-fer (IowaQ and RustyQ). What better place/time to celebrate Benz-ism than in the middle of a harvest of potential tanks of ethanol and soy-diesel. On 7/19/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:57:20 -0400 Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I take it that you're coordinating with LT Don, aka Wonko the Sane, and will put it on in his locale instead of his proposed Iowa-Q. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
I will second what John said. I've bought from the dealership in Des Moines twice, in both cases to buy really small/cheap stuff that I needed. I had to be in Des Moines anyway, but even if I'd had to drive the 90 minute round trip, the fuel was cheaper than paying Rusty's shipping on a $5 item. Besides, it is FUN to make a few slow laps around the dealership going CLATTA-CLATTA and seeing the sales floor empty into the parking lot to watch an old 240D (highly polished for the occasion) drift proudly buy. On 7/19/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't buy high dollar items from the dealer. I buy stuff from the dealer (the one in Huntsville actually charges list... not over like some of the crazy ones do) when its cheaper than $30 and thats all I need for a little while. The shipping charges aren't worth it then. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chinese quality, when needed
Tom: My rule of thumb is this: Craftsman in my garage (many hanging on a pegboard). Cheapo stuff in my Benz trunk's toolbox for emergency repairs. I guess I am a product of the GSA cheap crap that we were issued in the military. It got so bad that I finally turned in my GSA tools, purchased everything I needed from Craftsman, and went back to fixing airplanes with tools that actually worked right. At the time, I made about $10,000 a year as a mid-level enlisted supervisor. But hey, the Coast Guard philosophy is that the guys who fly in the planes are the same guys who fix the planes. My job was avionics, which meant that it was MY SKILLS the determined whether or not we achieved to a successful landing during fog. This was in the late 1970s. I am still using 99% of those same tools in 2007. The other 1% I either lost or had stolen during the years, and have replaced with Craftsman. On 7/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 2 cents (ok, maybe $2.00) worth. I have a set of wrenches in my tool box that I've owned for over 25 years. They are Chrome Vanadium steel, have served me very well over the years were made in China. My great grandchildren will be using these cheap (but high quality) wrenches because they refuse to die. I wish I knew who made them - they have no name brand but they have a very durable chrome plating, are marked with Chrome Vanadium and Made in China. I bought the entire set from a retail outlet that is no longer in business. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
giggle On 7/19/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize, though, that it can annoying for those without a system like gmail. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: More HF Must Have Tools
This one just arrived. Got a powder coating device for $50 and a bunch of other random useful stuff cheap. Some of this stuff, for occasional use when you need it, is OK. The blood from the prisoners washes off pretty easily. --R http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/emails/display.do?fname=29_RetailB.html\ But wait! There's more! http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html/usa_cpnsave.html There's some cool stuff here: http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html/special_orders/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] quality, was Brake Lines
What about \/ I /-\ GR/-\? --R LWB250 wrote: They had good Rolex knock-offs, too. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
