Re: [MBZ] Test
you failed Rick Knoble wrote: No mail in a while hello, is this thing on Test. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test
Been more yackin' on Banned Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test you failed Rick Knoble wrote: No mail in a while hello, is this thing on Test. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Test
No mail in a while hello, is this thing on Test. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard Starting
Friday night I left work and tried to start our 1982 240D/3.0. It had been in the 20s during the day and probably was about 15 degrees at that time. I glowed and cranked and the engine turned over rather slowly. I didn't keep the starter going long enough after it started, so the engine died. I had to glow and crank again. This time I kept it up until the engine was going well and was able to get home. The engine has Mobil 1 in it and has had its valves adjusted in the last few thousand miles (late summer). How do I determine whether the problem is the battery or the starter (or perhaps both)? I had thought about going to AutoZone to have them test the battery. Is this a useful thing to do? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting
Have the current draw checked on the starter. If it's getting high, time for a NEW or BOSCH REBUILT starter, not a reconditioned one. Need to have the armature replaced, too much resistance. And do, please, keep cranking until it runs on it's own, else you are likely to run the battery flat before it goes. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting
At 15°, I think the only thing wrong was in your forgetting to crank until it's running. Nothing broke, don't fix it! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:38:05 -0700, you wrote: Friday night I left work and tried to start our 1982 240D/3.0. It had been in the 20s during the day and probably was about 15 degrees at that time. I glowed and cranked and the engine turned over rather slowly. I didn't keep the starter going long enough after it started, so the engine died. I had to glow and crank again. This time I kept it up until the engine was going well and was able to get home. The engine has Mobil 1 in it and has had its valves adjusted in the last few thousand miles (late summer). How do I determine whether the problem is the battery or the starter (or perhaps both)? I had thought about going to AutoZone to have them test the battery. Is this a useful thing to do? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accidental head gasket replacement done
Ed: You cannot use the easy way on a 103, as there are no holes in the cam sprocket through which you can wire tie the sprocket to the chain. You must get some paint markers and mark the chain and sprocket well enough that the paint won't wipe off (remove all the oil with carb cleaner spray). Put engine on TDC with the piston at the top of the compression stroke on #1 and don't move it, the cam is indexed like the diesel one is, make sure it's in the correct position and match cam sprocket and chain going back in. Get the head tested, too -- oil in the coolant can be a crack just as easily as a leaking head gasket. I don't think this is a big job, but we will find out this coming weekend! I have to change the blower motor in my Mom's TE tomorrow. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accidental head gasket replacement done
Peter, I think early this spring, I'm going to tackle the head gasket in my W124 300E. Seeing a little oil in the coolant. I also want to change the little seals on the valves, and was thinking all along, that it might be easier to just pull the whole head and do it on a bench, rather then mess around and drop a valve in the engine, (which I would do). My only concern is getting the chain on and off and the cam and crank all aligned when reassembling. Any pointers, or even a quick walk through and what to watch for, tricks to make the job easier would be much appreciated. This won't be a rebuild, but a good chance to freshen up a lot of things while it's all apart. Thanks Peter. Ed 300E On 19/01/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It never rains but it pours, as the saying goes! My brother has been having an excessive vibration problem with his SDL for some time. We've fixed everything we could think of (new belt, new PS pump, new tensioner pivot, etc) but never did get is to stop shaking at idle. I finally told him to make SURE the crank pulley had not come loose (although I'd expect it to have flown off by now, but hey). He shoved around on it, and it idles smoothly for a few minutes, then goes back to jumping around, and he decides his harmonic balancer has gone south, compounded by massive oil throwing from the balancer. So we get a new balancer (not cheap, $100 shipping alone from Germany, no one stocks one here) and go to put it in, along with a new front seal. Ha, what a mess. The friend we borrow all our tools from didn't have the flywheel lock and got the wrong seal too boot, so that held us up a couple days, along with the mess between the radiator and condenser. If you have not done so, please pull the rad next time you change coolant and clean all that crap out. Bugs and stuff get through the AC condenser, but then get hung up at the radiator. His was about 1/2 masked off. Anyway, we decided to make a tool for the crank bolt removal by welding a piece of 2 angle iron to the old blanacer (it is held onto the crank hub with the six bolts that hold the pulley on, unlike the 617 where it presses on with the crank bolt). Great if you have a dead balancer to work with, else rather expensive. Got that job done pretty well, but found the belt pivot loose again. Sam Loctited it in this time, I hope the threads aren't buggered from running it loose! That wold be much more work that I want to do again as the front cover really has to come out. He also had some leaks in the coregated stainless bits in the exhaust manifold he wanted to fix, so ended up taking the exhaust manifold and turbo return pipe off since there is an inner pipe between the front and rear parts of the manifold and the studs are too long to remove just the front half. This went well until he got to the last bolt at the rear where the stud broke off (or finished breaking off, he didn't put any twist into it). This is the one that was broken on my old 300D that held us up a day on re-installation of the head, but his was, of course, still in the car. Tried to easy out it, but the easy out broke (I told him to borrows the good one from Hans, but he doesn't listen too well), so haha, off comes it's head. Not exactly what we had planned, our one evening job is now stretching out to a couple weeks. And $250 more than expected, too as a new head gasket and set of head bolts is now required. Now, this is only part of the fun -- my mother's TE blower motor starts blowing fuses, so I've got another motor on the way (used-- I'm taking a chance here, I know), but it's not driveable with no heater blower when it's below freezing, can't get frost off the inside of the window too see. That puts that car out of action. Sam bought a 300e this summer for spare transport, as his 75 300D needs IP repair and isn't driveable at the moment -- only runs on 4 cylinders -- and the 300e decides to finish blowing it's head gasket, too, leaving them with only a pickup and need for more transportation. I graciously lend my SIL my new 300D and fire up the old 280 SE and hope it runs well enough to get me to and from work until I get the blower motor installed in the TE. now, I dont' drive the SE all that much because it gets terrible milage (12 to 14 these days) and I've not been able to get it to run all that well for a while --- the idle keeps creeping up and it runs rough, misses, surges and backfires, so I wasn't looking forward to this, expecting to end up dead on the side of the road somewhere AND broke from buying premium for that 450 miles I drive in a normal week. After limping to and from the in-town job, I noticed a pronounced hissing under the hood, and though probably the vacuum retard line had given up the ghost. Bit pain as the plastic line runs along the valve cover and it's not easy to replace. Well, not the vac line -- fished around
Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting
Craig, The most common cause for an engine not starting in extreme cold weather are valves that need adjusting, a low charging alternator, a burned out glow plug, a partly discharged (or old) battery or corroded battery terminal. You can eliminate the battery charging system battery terminals by having someone crank the engine with headlights on. They should dim, but not much. If they dim a lot then the issue is the battery, a battery terminal or the charging circuit. The most common charging circuit issue is a loose alternator belt a loose belt will not light the charge light. With the engine off, try push the alternator cooling fins with your hand. If you can make the pulley slip any at all then the belt is loose. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 3:38 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Hard Starting Friday night I left work and tried to start our 1982 240D/3.0. It had been in the 20s during the day and probably was about 15 degrees at that time. I glowed and cranked and the engine turned over rather slowly. I didn't keep the starter going long enough after it started, so the engine died. I had to glow and crank again. This time I kept it up until the engine was going well and was able to get home. The engine has Mobil 1 in it and has had its valves adjusted in the last few thousand miles (late summer). How do I determine whether the problem is the battery or the starter (or perhaps both)? I had thought about going to AutoZone to have them test the battery. Is this a useful thing to do? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accidental head gasket replacement done
Hi Peter, You addresses several of the questions I had in my head. In other engines I've changed timing (belts) on, the cam gear was marked. If the 103 isn't, my though was to do as you said, or to be sure not to rub the paint off, scribe the cam gear, and chain. Good advise to get the head tested for cracks while at it, and if going to all that trouble, will probably get the guides done too. Will the old valves need to be reseated after the guides are changed, or just reassemble, in correct order? I'm interested to hear how things go this weekend Peter. Please keep me updated. Thanks in advance, Ed 300E On 20/01/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed: You cannot use the easy way on a 103, as there are no holes in the cam sprocket through which you can wire tie the sprocket to the chain. You must get some paint markers and mark the chain and sprocket well enough that the paint won't wipe off (remove all the oil with carb cleaner spray). Put engine on TDC with the piston at the top of the compression stroke on #1 and don't move it, the cam is indexed like the diesel one is, make sure it's in the correct position and match cam sprocket and chain going back in. Get the head tested, too -- oil in the coolant can be a crack just as easily as a leaking head gasket. I don't think this is a big job, but we will find out this coming weekend! I have to change the blower motor in my Mom's TE tomorrow. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] spare W124 engine??
Hi Everyone, Can anyone tell me if there are any differences between an '88 and '90 gas engine for a W124? 3 litre engine. There is an engine for sale in town here, and as I'm thinking of picking up another W124 in the next couple of months, maybe picking up this spare and freshing it up and keeping it as a drop in wouldn't be such a bad idea. My thinking is, if I have problems in future, easier to just drop in a fresh engine and take my time fixing what's broken in the comfort of a garage and on a bench? Any thoughs? In my experience, when things break, they always seem to do so with a foot of snow on the ground, and -30 below zero outside. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dodge VIN and Lift pump
Anyone have a CArFAX open, could please check: 1B7KF2361XJ570032 Dodge P/U, I hope... Also anyone have experience with lift pump failure on 1998-2002 Dodge. I understand that the fuel tank pump is marginal pump capacity. It should be augmented with add on pump to prevent F.I. pump meltdown. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] spare W124 engine??
From my information, it looks like the 103.983 was used in the 300E from '86 to '92. Sounds like a good plan to me --- On Jan 20, 2008 6:39 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Can anyone tell me if there are any differences between an '88 and '90 gas engine for a W124? 3 litre engine. There is an engine for sale in town here, and as I'm thinking of picking up another W124 in the next couple of months, maybe picking up this spare and freshing it up and keeping it as a drop in wouldn't be such a bad idea. My thinking is, if I have problems in future, easier to just drop in a fresh engine and take my time fixing what's broken in the comfort of a garage and on a bench? Any thoughs? In my experience, when things break, they always seem to do so with a foot of snow on the ground, and -30 below zero outside. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dodge VIN and Lift pump
mine has expired Peter T. Arnold wrote: Anyone have a CArFAX open, could please check: 1B7KF2361XJ570032 Dodge P/U, I hope... Also anyone have experience with lift pump failure on 1998-2002 Dodge. I understand that the fuel tank pump is marginal pump capacity. It should be augmented with add on pump to prevent F.I. pump meltdown. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] anybody need a cheap wagon engine?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300D-Diesel-Engine_W0QQitemZ110216765044QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item110216765044 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] you guys believe yet?
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Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting
Have you CHANGED YOUR GLOW PLUG FUSE? I put a new one in Brunnhilde and it made a lot of difference, even though it was not burned through, I think enough had deteriorated that the current was not very high, and the GPs were not getting very hot. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Dodge Diesel
I'm looking very hard at a '99 4 valve Cummings. I'm told there is a $400 upgrade to the lift pump which will save the F/I pump. I know of 6 guys with the 24-valve 6B engines, and EVERY ONE is on at least the second FI pump, to the tune of $2000-3000, depending on how good he shopped. The BEST fix is to have a fuel pressure gauge installed, and pretend it's an oil pressure gauge. If it gets low, STOP NOW! (It _is_ the lubrication pressure for the IP.) You can replace the lift pump all you want, but nothing will protect your IP from death except knowing when it's not getting fuel flow. A bad lift pump will do it, but so will a clogging fuel filter. They are excellent engines on the whole, but that rotary pump has an Achilles' heel. Get the gauge. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What is the problem with okiebenz?
I have been trying to send mail for 3 days, and all is being sent back ... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet?
Believe what? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:17 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] you guys believe yet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is the problem with okiebenz?
Rick, Your messages are getting to the list. Maybe Kaleb will see your message figure out what's going on. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD FIne Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:16 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] What is the problem with okiebenz? I have been trying to send mail for 3 days, and all is being sent back ... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet?
I figured so, but they did barely win in overtime. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:09 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet? I think Hursty is yakking about his New York Football Giants. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:48 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet? Believe what? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:17 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] you guys believe yet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet?
I think Hursty is yakking about his New York Football Giants. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:48 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet? Believe what? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:17 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] you guys believe yet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com