Re: [MBZ] Test

2008-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you failed

Rick Knoble wrote:
 No mail in a while hello, is this thing on 
 Test.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Test

2008-01-20 Thread Robert Rentfro
Been more yackin' on Banned

Bob R.

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you failed

Rick Knoble wrote:
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 Test.
 
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[MBZ] Test

2008-01-20 Thread Rick Knoble
No mail in a while hello, is this thing on 
Test.

Rick Knoble 
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'87 190 DT

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[MBZ] Hard Starting

2008-01-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
Friday night I left work and tried to start our 1982 240D/3.0. It had been
in the 20s during the day and probably was about 15 degrees at that time.
I glowed and cranked and the engine turned over rather slowly. I didn't
keep the starter going long enough after it started, so the engine died. I
had to glow and crank again. This time I kept it up until the engine was
going well and was able to get home.

The engine has Mobil 1 in it and has had its valves adjusted in the last
few thousand miles (late summer).

How do I determine whether the problem is the battery or the starter (or
perhaps both)? I had thought about going to AutoZone to have them test the
battery. Is this a useful thing to do?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting

2008-01-20 Thread Peter Frederick
Have the current draw checked on the starter.  If it's getting high,  
time for a NEW or BOSCH REBUILT starter, not a reconditioned one.   
Need to have the armature replaced, too much resistance.

And do, please, keep cranking until it runs on it's own, else you are  
likely to run the battery flat before it goes.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting

2008-01-20 Thread Peter T . Arnold
At 15°, I think the only thing wrong was in your forgetting to crank
until it's running.

Nothing broke, don't fix it!

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is!

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:38:05 -0700, you wrote:

Friday night I left work and tried to start our 1982 240D/3.0. It had been
in the 20s during the day and probably was about 15 degrees at that time.
I glowed and cranked and the engine turned over rather slowly. I didn't
keep the starter going long enough after it started, so the engine died. I
had to glow and crank again. This time I kept it up until the engine was
going well and was able to get home.

The engine has Mobil 1 in it and has had its valves adjusted in the last
few thousand miles (late summer).

How do I determine whether the problem is the battery or the starter (or
perhaps both)? I had thought about going to AutoZone to have them test the
battery. Is this a useful thing to do?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Accidental head gasket replacement done

2008-01-20 Thread Peter Frederick
Ed:

You cannot use the easy way on a 103, as there are no holes in the  
cam sprocket through which you can wire tie the sprocket to the  
chain.  You must get some paint markers and mark the chain and  
sprocket well enough that the paint won't wipe off (remove all the  
oil with carb cleaner spray). Put engine on TDC with the piston at  
the top of the compression stroke on #1 and don't move it, the cam is  
indexed like the diesel one is, make sure it's in the correct  
position and match cam sprocket and chain going back in.

Get the head tested, too -- oil in the coolant can be a crack just as  
easily as a leaking head gasket.

I don't think this is a big job, but we will find out this coming  
weekend!  I have to change the blower motor in my Mom's TE tomorrow.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Accidental head gasket replacement done

2008-01-20 Thread E M
Peter,

I think early this spring, I'm going to tackle the head gasket in my W124
300E.  Seeing a little oil in the coolant.  I also want to change the little
seals on the valves, and was thinking all along, that it might be easier to
just pull the whole head and do it on a bench, rather then mess around and
drop a valve in the engine, (which I would do).  My only concern is getting
the chain on and off and the cam and crank all aligned when reassembling.

Any pointers, or even a quick walk through and what to watch for, tricks to
make the job easier would be much appreciated. This won't be a rebuild, but
a good chance to freshen up a lot of things while it's all apart.

Thanks Peter.

Ed
300E

On 19/01/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It never rains but it pours, as the saying goes!

 My brother has been having an excessive vibration problem with his
 SDL for some time.  We've fixed everything we could think of (new
 belt, new PS pump, new tensioner pivot, etc) but never did get is to
 stop shaking at idle.  I finally told him to make SURE the crank
 pulley had not come loose (although I'd expect it to have flown off
 by now, but hey).  He shoved around on it, and it idles smoothly for
 a few minutes, then goes back to jumping around, and he decides his
 harmonic balancer has gone south, compounded by massive oil throwing
 from the balancer.

 So we get a new balancer (not cheap, $100 shipping alone from
 Germany, no one stocks one here) and go to put it in, along with a
 new front seal.  Ha, what a mess.  The friend we borrow all our tools
 from didn't have the flywheel lock and got the wrong seal too boot,
 so that held us up a couple days, along with the mess between the
 radiator and condenser.  If you have not done so, please pull the rad
 next time you change coolant and clean all that crap out.  Bugs and
 stuff get through the AC condenser, but then get hung up at the
 radiator.  His was about 1/2 masked off.

 Anyway, we decided to make a tool for the crank bolt removal by
 welding a piece of 2 angle iron to the old blanacer (it is held onto
 the crank hub with the six bolts that hold the pulley on, unlike the
 617 where it presses on with the crank bolt).  Great if you have a
 dead balancer to work with, else rather expensive.  Got that job done
 pretty well, but found the belt pivot loose again.  Sam Loctited it
 in this time, I hope the threads aren't buggered from running it
 loose!  That wold be much more work that I want to do again as the
 front cover really has to come out.

 He also had some leaks in the coregated stainless bits in the exhaust
 manifold he wanted to fix, so ended up taking the exhaust manifold
 and turbo return pipe off since there is an inner pipe between the
 front and rear parts of the manifold and the studs are too long to
 remove just the front half.  This went well until he got to the last
 bolt at the rear where the stud broke off (or finished breaking off,
 he didn't put any twist into it).  This is the one that was broken on
 my old 300D that held us up a day on re-installation of the head, but
 his was, of course, still in the car.

 Tried to easy out it, but the easy out broke (I told him to borrows
 the good one from Hans, but he doesn't listen too well), so haha, off
 comes it's head.  Not exactly what we had planned, our one evening
 job is now stretching out to a couple weeks.  And $250 more than
 expected, too as a new head gasket and set of head bolts is now
 required.

 Now, this is only part of the fun -- my mother's TE blower motor
 starts blowing fuses, so I've got another motor on the way (used--
 I'm taking a chance here, I know), but it's not driveable with no
 heater blower when it's below freezing, can't get frost off the
 inside of the window too see.  That puts that car out of action.  Sam
 bought a 300e this  summer for spare transport, as his 75 300D needs
 IP repair and isn't driveable at the moment -- only runs on 4
 cylinders -- and the 300e decides to finish blowing it's head gasket,
 too, leaving them with only a pickup and need for more
 transportation.  I graciously lend my SIL my new 300D and fire up the
 old 280 SE and hope it runs well enough to get me to and from work
 until I get the blower motor installed in the TE.

 now, I dont' drive the SE all that much because it gets terrible
 milage (12 to 14 these days) and I've not been able to get it to run
 all that well for a while --- the idle keeps creeping up and it runs
 rough, misses, surges and backfires, so I wasn't looking forward to
 this, expecting to end up dead on the side of the road somewhere AND
 broke from buying premium for that 450 miles I drive in a normal
 week.  After limping to and from the in-town job, I noticed a
 pronounced hissing under the hood, and though probably the vacuum
 retard line had given up the ghost.  Bit pain as the plastic line
 runs along the valve cover and it's not easy to replace.

 Well, not the vac line -- fished around 

Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting

2008-01-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
Craig,

The most common cause for an engine not starting in extreme cold weather are
valves that need adjusting, a low charging alternator, a burned out glow
plug, a partly discharged (or old) battery or corroded battery terminal.

You can eliminate the battery  charging system  battery terminals by
having someone crank the engine with headlights on. They should dim, but not
much. If they dim a lot then the issue is the battery, a battery terminal or
the charging circuit.

The most common charging circuit issue is a loose alternator belt  a loose
belt will not light the charge light. With the engine off, try  push the
alternator cooling fins with your hand. If you can make the pulley slip any
at all then the belt is loose.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: [MBZ] Hard Starting

Friday night I left work and tried to start our 1982 240D/3.0. It had been
in the 20s during the day and probably was about 15 degrees at that time.
I glowed and cranked and the engine turned over rather slowly. I didn't
keep the starter going long enough after it started, so the engine died. I
had to glow and crank again. This time I kept it up until the engine was
going well and was able to get home.

The engine has Mobil 1 in it and has had its valves adjusted in the last
few thousand miles (late summer).

How do I determine whether the problem is the battery or the starter (or
perhaps both)? I had thought about going to AutoZone to have them test the
battery. Is this a useful thing to do?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Accidental head gasket replacement done

2008-01-20 Thread E M
Hi Peter,

You addresses several of the questions I had in my head.  In other engines
I've changed timing (belts) on, the cam gear was marked.  If the 103 isn't,
my though was to do as you said, or to be sure not to rub the paint off,
scribe the cam gear, and chain.  Good advise to get the head tested for
cracks while at it, and if going to all that trouble, will probably get the
guides done too.  Will the old valves need to be reseated after the guides
are changed, or just reassemble, in correct order?

I'm interested to hear how things go this weekend Peter.  Please keep me
updated.

Thanks in advance,

Ed
300E

On 20/01/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ed:

 You cannot use the easy way on a 103, as there are no holes in the
 cam sprocket through which you can wire tie the sprocket to the
 chain.  You must get some paint markers and mark the chain and
 sprocket well enough that the paint won't wipe off (remove all the
 oil with carb cleaner spray). Put engine on TDC with the piston at
 the top of the compression stroke on #1 and don't move it, the cam is
 indexed like the diesel one is, make sure it's in the correct
 position and match cam sprocket and chain going back in.

 Get the head tested, too -- oil in the coolant can be a crack just as
 easily as a leaking head gasket.

 I don't think this is a big job, but we will find out this coming
 weekend!  I have to change the blower motor in my Mom's TE tomorrow.

 Peter


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[MBZ] spare W124 engine??

2008-01-20 Thread E M
Hi Everyone,

Can anyone tell me if there are any differences between an '88 and '90 gas
engine for a W124?  3 litre engine.  There is an engine for sale in town
here, and as I'm thinking of picking up another W124 in the next couple of
months, maybe picking up this spare and freshing it up and keeping it as a
drop in wouldn't be such a bad idea.  My thinking is, if I have problems in
future, easier to just drop in a fresh engine and take my time fixing what's
broken in the comfort of a garage and on a bench?  Any thoughs?  In my
experience, when things break, they always seem to do so with a foot of snow
on the ground, and -30 below zero outside.

Ed
300E
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[MBZ] Dodge VIN and Lift pump

2008-01-20 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Anyone have a CArFAX open, could please check:  1B7KF2361XJ570032

Dodge P/U, I hope...

Also anyone have experience with lift pump failure on 1998-2002 Dodge.
I understand that the fuel tank pump is marginal pump capacity.  It
should be augmented with add on pump to prevent F.I. pump meltdown.


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Regards,

Peter T. Arnold

2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL  286 KMI  Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio
1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!

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Re: [MBZ] spare W124 engine??

2008-01-20 Thread OK Don
From my information, it looks like the 103.983 was used in the 300E
from '86 to '92. Sounds like a good plan to me ---

On Jan 20, 2008 6:39 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 Can anyone tell me if there are any differences between an '88 and '90 gas
 engine for a W124?  3 litre engine.  There is an engine for sale in town
 here, and as I'm thinking of picking up another W124 in the next couple of
 months, maybe picking up this spare and freshing it up and keeping it as a
 drop in wouldn't be such a bad idea.  My thinking is, if I have problems in
 future, easier to just drop in a fresh engine and take my time fixing what's
 broken in the comfort of a garage and on a bench?  Any thoughs?  In my
 experience, when things break, they always seem to do so with a foot of snow
 on the ground, and -30 below zero outside.

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
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Re: [MBZ] Dodge VIN and Lift pump

2008-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
mine has expired

Peter T. Arnold wrote:
 Anyone have a CArFAX open, could please check:  1B7KF2361XJ570032
 
 Dodge P/U, I hope...
 
 Also anyone have experience with lift pump failure on 1998-2002 Dodge.
 I understand that the fuel tank pump is marginal pump capacity.  It
 should be augmented with add on pump to prevent F.I. pump meltdown.
 
 
 --
 
 Regards,
 
 Peter T. Arnold
 
 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems!
 1987 300SDL  286 KMI  Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio
 1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
 Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
 
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] anybody need a cheap wagon engine?

2008-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300D-Diesel-Engine_W0QQitemZ110216765044QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item110216765044
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] you guys believe yet?

2008-01-20 Thread Gary Hurst

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Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting

2008-01-20 Thread Rich Thomas
Have you CHANGED YOUR GLOW PLUG FUSE?  I put a new one in Brunnhilde and 
it made a lot of difference, even though it was not burned through, I 
think enough had deteriorated that the current was not very high, and 
the GPs were not getting very hot.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] O/T Dodge Diesel

2008-01-20 Thread Jim Cathey
 I'm looking very hard at a '99 4 valve Cummings.
 I'm told there is a $400 upgrade to the lift pump which will save the
 F/I pump.

I know of 6 guys with the 24-valve 6B engines, and EVERY ONE
is on at least the second FI pump, to the tune of $2000-3000,
depending on how good he shopped.  The BEST fix is to have a
fuel pressure gauge installed, and pretend it's an oil pressure
gauge.  If it gets low, STOP NOW!  (It _is_ the lubrication
pressure for the IP.)

You can replace the lift pump all you want, but nothing
will protect your IP from death except knowing when it's
not getting fuel flow.  A bad lift pump will do it, but
so will a clogging fuel filter.

They are excellent engines on the whole, but that rotary pump
has an Achilles' heel.  Get the gauge.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] What is the problem with okiebenz?

2008-01-20 Thread RICHARD FIne

I have been trying to send mail for 3 days, and all is being sent back ...
 
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet?

2008-01-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
Believe what?

Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] What is the problem with okiebenz?

2008-01-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
Rick,

Your messages are getting to the list. Maybe Kaleb will see your message 
figure out what's going on.

Thanks,
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Subject: [MBZ] What is the problem with okiebenz?


I have been trying to send mail for 3 days, and all is being sent back ...
 
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Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet?

2008-01-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
I figured so, but they did barely win in overtime.

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I think Hursty is yakking about his New York Football Giants.

Bob R

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Believe what?

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Re: [MBZ] you guys believe yet?

2008-01-20 Thread Robert Rentfro
I think Hursty is yakking about his New York Football Giants.

Bob R

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Believe what?

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Tom Hargrave
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