Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 fixer on CL

2008-02-18 Thread Zeitgeist
Sheesh, that's a killer deal, and a super easy fix--bummer, it already has a
sale pending.

On Feb 18, 2008 9:18 PM, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I spotted this one a few minutes ago.
>
> http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/578541486.html
>
> Maybe it's good that I don't have the money to throw at this one.
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi+, Ursula
>
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Re: [MBZ] Gmail problems

2008-02-18 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yes! I have been having trouble with Gmail.
Sometimes you'll roll over a thread and it won't turn the cursor active. And
clicking won't open the email.

Other times you get the thread to open and it opens with the address info.,
but it's void of any content.

Other times it'll just sit there and try to open, say, the inbox and won't
do anything.

In my "window" menu (I'm using a Mac) it doesn't say "gmail" like it usually
does - it says "loading" constantly.

Brian

On Feb 15, 2008 11:41 AM, Glenn Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone else been having problems with Gmail in recent days, as I
> occasionally get the following and have to get out of Gmail and get back
> into it:
>
> "Arrgh! The page has been corrupted. If you are running security or
> firewall
> software, you may have to disable it."
>
> TIA
>
> G. M. Brown
> Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] Compare 190D 2.2 auto & 300TD

2008-02-18 Thread Zoltan Finks
We have the 190D 5 cylinder 2.5 auto tranny non-turbo. I can tell you that
it has plenty of pep - not found wanting unless it fails to downshift up a
hill.
So I would guess (no first hand experience) that the four cylinder auto
tranny would be pretty adequately powered. I bet it's peppier than our 240D
manual tranny.

We found, though I have not checked in recent months, that the 190Ds are
overpriced. My wife and I got caught up in our desire to get one and wound
up paying $4800 on ebay for our '87 with 268k mi. We regret paying that
much, not because the car has been that unsatisfactory, (the only problem
has been the alternator coming apart to the tune of $800) but because that's
just way too much to pay.

We listed ours for sale here in the Western Washington area and priced it
according to the current market (which is more expensive than we paid,
amazingly!). It seems to me, though, that prices were getting dropped a bit
after a while.

Brian

On Feb 18, 2008 8:04 PM, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone here driven both a 190D 2.2 auto and a 1985 300TD?  I currently
> drive the 1985 300TD and am considering a car I have never driven.  Is the
> 190D 2.2 even slower than the wagon?  There a 190D in Greensboro NC  with
> 200,000 miles for around $2500.
>
> What are these cars worth?
>
> Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 78 Chevy Custom deluxe
> '85 300TD
> '02 Subaru Outback
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT was Subaru Diesel, now Honda Diesel

2008-02-18 Thread Allan Streib
"archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Last year I read that VW would be selling a full line of diesels in
> the U.S.  beginning in May.

VW has had disels off and on for a while, the TDI being available in a
few cars for nearly 10 years now.

Last time I asked locally, the salesman sort of laughed and said there
was about a 6 month waiting list on any TDI car.

Diesel costing more per gallon than premium gasoline is going to be a
turn-off for some, unless the MPG are high enough to offset the extra
cost.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT was Subaru Diesel, now Honda Diesel

2008-02-18 Thread Allan Streib
"Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm betting that will be the "tipping point" for the resurgence of
> diesel in the USA.

Depends on how many people buy thinking they can run them on discarded
french fry grease, and later have an unhappy conversation with the
dealer service manager about the terms of their warranty.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (little more help scott?)

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> Where should I get the 12 Volts for this "sucker"! I would really like 
> it only active when the climate control is though am unsure were to 
> slice in.

The normal aspirator runs at all times with the key on,
it is not conditional on the ACC being active.  (So that
it's ready to do the right thing if you were to turn
the ACC on, that's what I figure.)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 300D 2.5 fixer on CL

2008-02-18 Thread Kevin Kraly
I spotted this one a few minutes ago.

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/578541486.html

Maybe it's good that I don't have the money to throw at this one.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi+, Ursula

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Re: [MBZ] 500K

2008-02-18 Thread tom savage
Fmiser wrote:

> I get to St. Louis rather frequently. What part of the Greater
> St. Louis area are you? Or the car?

I'm in the ghetto in the City; the car is in Chesterfield.

> I generally carry a couple high-grade microphones, a USB audio
> interface, and a laptop, so a quality audio recording should be
> easy. 
> 
> Does the car ever get to go further than the garage door? I'm
> thinking sunny day, somewhere other than a parking lot, a good
> video camera

We could probably do that, but I really don't like driving cars of this 
sort on the street.  The camera phone paparazzi drifting in and out of 
their lanes gets old quickly.  But is a nice long parking lot...

First I've got to do something about the gas spewing out of the bottom 
of the carb.  Let me know when you'll be in town.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] 500K

2008-02-18 Thread tom savage
LarryT wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> BTW, When did you come to own such a beauty?Have you been working on 
> it for a long time or is it a new project?  What's the general condition of 
> the car?  From the photo I saw of the front of the car it sure looks like a 
> beauty!

I certainly don't own the car - I don't even own a dishwasher!  The nice 
thing about working for a car museum is that you get to drive cars 
several orders of magnitude beyond the means of mere mortals.  It is in 
low #1 condition.

> Does it have any history?  Like being owned my Marlene Dietrick (sp?) ? 
> ;-)  That car must have really turned heads back in the 30s when it was 
> first released - because it sure turns heads now ;-)   I'll bet cruising on 
> the interstate is an amazing experience in the 500K.   How many speeds in 
> the gearbox?

History is unknown, other than that the previous owner was a doctor in 
Germany who could no longer afford to restore the car due to socialized 
medicine (or so say the car's notes).  Cruising down the interstate is 
probably a lot of work, if today's drive at 20mph is any indication - it 
is a lot of car to handle and the clutch, shifter, and steering require 
a great deal of force and care.  It is a four-speed with a bizarre shift 
pattern (incorrect knob in the pics for some reason):
R  2
|__|
  | |
  1 3-4
No synchro on first. Third is direct and fourth is overdrive with no 
clutch required.  Just move the lever and it will engage when revs match.

Tom

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[MBZ] Compare 190D 2.2 auto & 300TD

2008-02-18 Thread Chris Kueny
Has anyone here driven both a 190D 2.2 auto and a 1985 300TD?  I currently 
drive the 1985 300TD and am considering a car I have never driven.  Is the 
190D 2.2 even slower than the wagon?  There a 190D in Greensboro NC  with 
200,000 miles for around $2500.

What are these cars worth?

Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
78 Chevy Custom deluxe
'85 300TD
'02 Subaru Outback


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Re: [MBZ] 500K

2008-02-18 Thread tom savage
Jeff Zedic wrote:
> I must have missed the background story on this carany chance for a
> repeat? Absolutely gorgeous!

I don't know too much of the history of the car.  It was a basket-case 
Cabriolet B in 1996, and emerged as a perfect Special Roadster in 2001. 
  It has been sitting in a museum since 2004 and hadn't been run since, 
until last week.

> Does it always have so much positive camber? Scary!

It was up on the lift before the pictures were taken and hadn't moved 
yet.  They straighten out in a couple of feet.

> Also, what's the other oldie behind the 201?

1953 300S Cab A.  "Needs work."  I try to pretend that car isn't there.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
It's the right series engine.

Thanks,
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-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

Rod bender?


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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] ebay description of the week


>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-mem
phis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm
dZViewItem
> -- 
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax please?

2008-02-18 Thread John Freer
Thanks Kaleb and Asher, very appreciated.

John

On 2/18/08, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Report Run Date: 02/18/2008
> The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and
> summary information on your car is shown below.
>
>
>
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> VIN:  4JGAB54EX1A272645
> Year:  2001
> Make:  Mercedes-Benz
> Model:  M Class ML320
> Style/Body:  SUV / Utility 4D
> Class:  CUV - Premium
>  Engine:  3.2L V6 EFI
> Country of Assembly:  United States
> Vehicle Age:  7 year(s)
> Calculated Owners:  2
> Last Reported
> Odometer Reading:  141,547
>
>
> This vehicle's AutoCheck Score
> 89 91-93
>  This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection
>
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> Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645) shows no negative titles
> or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate
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>
>
> 0 Problem(s) Reported:  15 Title/Problem areas checked:
>   No abandoned title record
>   No damaged title or major damage incident record
>   No fire damaged title record
>   No grey market title record
>   No hail damage title record
>   No insurance loss title record
>   No junk or scrapped title record
>   No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
>   No odometer problem title record
>   No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
>   No salvage title or salvage auction record
>   No water damaged title record
>   No NHTSA crash test record
>   No frame damage record
>   No recycling facility record
>
>
>
> OdometerCheck
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> readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320
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>
>
> 0 Problem(s) Reported:  Mileage  Date Reported
>   26,575  06/27/2002
>   34,403  12/31/2002
>   50,125  12/31/2003
>   50,131  01/02/2004
>   50,131  01/31/2004
>   141,547  01/23/2007
>
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>
> 1 Event(s) Reported:  5 Vehicle uses checked:
>   Fleet, rental, lease and/or taxi use record(s)
>   No police use record
>   No government use record
>   No livery use record
>   No driver education record
> 3 Event(s) Reported:  9 Vehicle events checked:
>   No accident record reported through state agencies or independent
> sources
>   Corrected title record(s)
>   No duplicate title record
>   Emission/safety inspection record(s)
>   Loan/Lien record(s)
>   No fire damage incident record
>   No repossessed record
>   No theft record
>   No storm area registration/title record
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> Report Run Date:: 02/18/2008
> Vehicle: 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645)
> Event date  Location  Odometer reading  Data Source  Details
> 06/27/2002  PACIFIC SW REGION  26,575  Auto Auction  AUCTION ANNOUNCED
> AS FLEET/LEASE
> 12/31/2002  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  REGISTRATION
> EVENT/RENEWAL
> 12/31/2002  PACIFIC NW REGION  34,403  Auto Auction  REPORTED AT AUTO
> AUCTION
> 01/10/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  TITLE (Title
> #:UT1490860) (Lien Reported)
> 08/29/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  TITLE (Title
> #:UT2021667)
> 08/31/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  CORRECTED TITLE
> 08/31/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  REGISTRATION
> EVENT/RENEWAL
> 10/14/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  TITLE (Title
> #:UT2121079)
> CORRECTED TITLE (Lien Reported)
> 12/31/2003  DESERT SOUTHWEST REGION  50,125  Auto Auction  REPORTED AT
> AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE
> 01/02/2004  CA  50,131  State Agency  PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
> 01/31/2004  CA  50,131  Motor Vehicle Dept.  ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
> 02/17/2004  PALM SPRINGS, CA   Motor Vehic

[MBZ] 1980 300D climate control (little more help scott?)

2008-02-18 Thread jgiels
As many of you have listened and helped me through this with my car I have 
still had trouble with it. No I do not care to give up!  I am suspecting that 
the in car sesor just doesn't have enough air flow over it. 

So I have robbed a bosch aspirator from a later model car and am wanting to 
test this. Where should I get the 12 Volts for this "sucker"! I would really 
like it only active when the climate control is though am unsure were to slice 
in. 

I am thinking that I can scab off the radio for testing it though would rather 
connect to something more esthetic. 

Thanks.. Douglas
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Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
Might be legit, might not. The feedback is based on only 2 transactions &
does not mean much either way.

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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

hmm (0) feedback score 50% Let's send a cashiers check to Memphis!

> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:09 -0600
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week
> 
> more description now.  That knocking is a rod about to let go.
> 
> dave walton wrote:
>> Looks like a decent car - except for the engine. I would not plan on
>> driving it any distance before pulling the head.
>> 
>> -Dave Walton
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2008 8:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-mem
>>>
phis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm
>>> dZViewItem
>>> --
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>> 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>>> 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
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> 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

2008-02-18 Thread jgiels
Rod bender?


- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] ebay description of the week


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-memphis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> -- 
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

2008-02-18 Thread Timothy Robinson
hmm (0) feedback score 50% Let's send a cashiers check to Memphis!

> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:09 -0600
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week
> 
> more description now.  That knocking is a rod about to let go.
> 
> dave walton wrote:
>> Looks like a decent car - except for the engine. I would not plan on
>> driving it any distance before pulling the head.
>> 
>> -Dave Walton
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2008 8:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-mem
>>> phis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm
>>> dZViewItem
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>>> 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>>> 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

2008-02-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
more description now.  That knocking is a rod about to let go.

dave walton wrote:
> Looks like a decent car - except for the engine. I would not plan on
> driving it any distance before pulling the head.
> 
> -Dave Walton
> 
> On Feb 18, 2008 8:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-memphis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>   94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>>   91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week

2008-02-18 Thread dave walton
Looks like a decent car - except for the engine. I would not plan on
driving it any distance before pulling the head.

-Dave Walton

On Feb 18, 2008 8:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-memphis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> --
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>   91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Window switch primer

2008-02-18 Thread jfreezn
Casey,

what Jim C said is true whenever you have 2 switches that operate the same 
window.? It would not be true for the front windows, operated from a CENTER 
console

Jim in phoenix


So, one bad switch will cause a non-functioning situation--is that right?
Well then, I'd best take them apart--bummer.




-Original Message-
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Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Window switch primer



So, one bad switch will cause a non-functioning situation--is that right?
Well then, I'd best take them apart--bummer.

On Feb 18, 2008 11:18 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Hey, remind me whether the power window circuit requires both switches
> > to be
> > fully operational in order for the window to function.
>
> Both switches have to be good in order for the _rear_ window
> to work.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 front fenders

2008-02-18 Thread OK Don
Thanks - I'll be looking at it next week - I'll check for further damage.

On Feb 18, 2008 6:36 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking from experience, the damage can go pretty far -- I'm
> assuming that wasn't a hit like mine, but the right side inner fender
> on mine is out of place enough removing the monovalve was difficult.
>
> Check carefully for distortion of the engine compartment, as getting
> it straight again can be a real PITA.
>
> Peter

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[MBZ] ebay description of the week

2008-02-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-memphis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] OT Heaven and Hell

2008-02-18 Thread archer

While walking down the street one day
a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the Golden Gate.

"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter.  "Before you settle in, it seems 
there is a problem.  We seldom see a high official around these parts,
you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in," says the man.

"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up.  What we'll do is 
have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven.  Then you can choose where 
to spend eternity."

"Really, I've made up my mind.  I want to be in heaven," says the 
senator.

"I'm sorry, but we have our rules." with that, St. Peter escorts him to 
the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he 
finds himself in the middle of a green golf course.  In the distance is a 
clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other 
politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, 
shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting 
rich at the expense of the people.

They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and 
champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a 
good time dancing and telling jokes.  They are having such a good time that 
before he realizes it, it is time to go.
Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator 
rises...

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. 
Peter is waiting for him.

"Now it's time to visit heaven."

So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls 
moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing.  They have a good 
time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter 
returns.

"Well then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven.  Now 
choose your eternity."

The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers:  "Well, I would 
never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I 
would be better off in hell."

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to 
hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren 
land covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and 
putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder.  "I 
don't understand," stammers the sena tor.  "Yesterday I was here
and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and 
caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time.  Now there's just 
a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.  What happened?"

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were 
campaigning.. Today you voted."


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Re: [MBZ] 124 front fenders

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Speaking from experience, the damage can go pretty far -- I'm  
assuming that wasn't a hit like mine, but the right side inner fender  
on mine is out of place enough removing the monovalve was difficult.

Check carefully for distortion of the engine compartment, as getting  
it straight again can be a real PITA.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 124 front fenders

2008-02-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well they just bolt on and off but if it was actually "hit" more than 
likely its got more problems than just replacing a fender.

OK Don wrote:
> Can the front fenders on a 124 sedan be un-bolted, and a new one
> bolted on, or is it a cut and weld process to replace one?
> Thinking about buying a car that was hit in the left front corner 
> 

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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax please?

2008-02-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Report Run Date: 02/18/2008
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VIN:  4JGAB54EX1A272645
Year:  2001
Make:  Mercedes-Benz
Model:  M Class ML320
Style/Body:  SUV / Utility 4D
Class:  CUV - Premium
  Engine:  3.2L V6 EFI
Country of Assembly:  United States
Vehicle Age:  7 year(s)
Calculated Owners:  2
Last Reported
Odometer Reading:  141,547


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0 Problem(s) Reported:  Mileage  Date Reported
   26,575  06/27/2002
   34,403  12/31/2002
   50,125  12/31/2003
   50,131  01/02/2004
   50,131  01/31/2004
   141,547  01/23/2007


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Vehicle: 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645)
Event date  Location  Odometer reading  Data Source  Details
06/27/2002  PACIFIC SW REGION  26,575  Auto Auction  AUCTION ANNOUNCED 
AS FLEET/LEASE
12/31/2002  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  REGISTRATION 
EVENT/RENEWAL
12/31/2002  PACIFIC NW REGION  34,403  Auto Auction  REPORTED AT AUTO 
AUCTION
01/10/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  TITLE (Title 
#:UT1490860) (Lien Reported)
08/29/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  TITLE (Title 
#:UT2021667)
08/31/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  CORRECTED TITLE
08/31/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  REGISTRATION 
EVENT/RENEWAL
10/14/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT   Motor Vehicle Dept.  TITLE (Title 
#:UT2121079)
CORRECTED TITLE (Lien Reported)
12/31/2003  DESERT SOUTHWEST REGION  50,125  Auto Auction  REPORTED AT 
AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE
01/02/2004  CA  50,131  State Agency  PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
01/31/2004  CA  50,131  Motor Vehicle Dept.  ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
02/17/2004  PALM SPRINGS, CA   Motor Vehicle Dept.  REGISTRATION 
EVENT/RENEWAL
02/19/2004  PALM SPRINGS, CA   Motor Vehicle Dept.  TITLE (Lien Reported)
01/23/2007  CA  141,547  State Agency  PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION


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Re: [MBZ] OM603 head number & tranny "mating"

2008-02-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It is on the side of the head about #2 injector.  Since this car is a 
350 it does not have head problems, it has rod problems.  A tranny for a 
603 will not bolt to or work on a tranny from a 617

Christopher McCann wrote:
> Where can you find what # the head is on an OM603? I THINK it is on the part 
> of the intake manifold that comes over the top of the engine. You can see 
> writing very clearly on this one: 
> 
> http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=531353&image=101662449&images=101661954,101661983,101662012,101662039,101662074,101662103,101662127,101662154,101662171,101662186,101662209,101662236,101662257,101662278,101662298,101662327,101662350,101662382,101662413,101662449,101662477&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0
> 
> just an example...Isn't it near the end of that number? a 15, 17, 19, or 21?
> 
> SECOND QUESTION: how easily does an OM603 mate to the stock tranny in my '85 
> 300SD?
> 
> 
> THANKS!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB
> -1985 300SD, 369K km, "Wulf"
> -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, "Der Abschleppwagen"
> & '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt & '84 300Dt
> -Anke & Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) & Nanook (Siberian Husky)
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Re: [MBZ] Email Challenges

2008-02-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No problems on this end

Dave H... wrote:
> Is anyone else having group list email challenges?
> 
> Every email I am sending to:   mercedes@okiebenz.com   I am receiving the 
> response delivery delayed and then eventually delivery failure.
> 
> 
> Dave H...
> 
> 
> --
> From: "John M McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 10:52 PM
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TE
> 
>> Currently owning a 92 300TDt and having owned a 89 300TE I can say I'm
>> bias.
>> Fine cars, with mb-tex you don't need those sheepskin covers, it's
>> indestructible.
>>
>> An E320 wagon is hot stuff, very fast, good milage, work horse, my
>> wife has
>> filled them with dirt, 700 lb of lumber, oh endless list of crimes...
>> Likely you can find
>> one with all the maintenance done.
>>
>> As for the 4matic ones, I understand once the previous owner has
>> suffered thru the 7 odd revisions
>> to the transfer case they are acceptable. In looking check with the
>> dealer to ensure you've the last
>> revision, otherwise you'll be out $$$ for a new one someday soon.
>>
>> If you want something very modern a C class wagon 2003ish era is very
>> nice, real rocket.
>> Ensure of course the owner has had all the 2000 era mercedes issues
>> fixed.
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I have a 124 wagon, and as an alternative.
>>
>> John
>> 1983 300TDt  386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
>> 1990's 300TDt  216k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
>> 1993 500SEL 206k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 front fenders

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Frederick
They bolt on, like usual.  You will need a quantity of special  
sealant to fill some voids in the front, though, as you will get  
serious rust problems if you don't.

Peter


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[MBZ] 124 front fenders

2008-02-18 Thread OK Don
Can the front fenders on a 124 sedan be un-bolted, and a new one
bolted on, or is it a cut and weld process to replace one?
Thinking about buying a car that was hit in the left front corner 

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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Generally, if a diesel starts easily when stone cold, there are not  
compression problems, and oil consumption must then be bad valve  
guide seals (often compounded by loose valve stem to guide clearance)  
or failed oil control rings.  You won't see smoke until you are  
REALLY burning oil, upwards of a quart in 100 miles or so (my old 220D).

Bad valve guide seals are worth a quart of oil in 1000 miles on any  
engine,  believe it or not, and sometimes they dribble from the  
factory.  On a gasser, ash deposits on the plugs are a sign, but you  
have to pull the head or use a borescope on a diesel to see the oil  
dripping off the intake valve.

If you get a short puff of blue smoke on startup, especially warm  
after half an hour sit, suspect leakage past the valve stem seals.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT was Subaru Diesel, now Honda Diesel

2008-02-18 Thread archer
Last year I read that VW would be selling a full line of diesels in the U.S. 
beginning in May.
Gerry
-
> On Feb 16, 2008 3:42 PM, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Honda will be importing the 2009 Accord which is 50 state legal,
>> without additives, such as urea.  Jalopnik as a road test and driving
>> impression of the Q7 4.2TDI and the Civic with the same engine as will
>> be imported in the Accord.
>>
>
> I'm betting that will be the "tipping point" for the resurgence of
> diesel in the USA.  From everything I've read about the Honda diesels,
> they've been engineered with the #1 priority being that they drive
> like a gasser---more power, less torque, and much less klatta klatta
> than the diesels of yore.
>
> Sounds completely unappealing to me, but then I'm not Joe American Car 
> Buyer.
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> '87 300D Turbo et al. 


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Re: [MBZ] 300TE

2008-02-18 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yes but do you get a feeling of safety and style in a Superoo. Or is it 
just a A to B car that will be scrap in a few years time.
How will the trim stand up, will it start to rattle and fall apart.
Anyway like I said the only way to tell is to test drive a few 
contenters and then make a decision. If time is not a problem then 
usually it is possible to find a good Merc that has been looked after.
Like with my TE, I looked at a few and they all had something wrong with 
them and the money people where asking was too much but then by chance I 
saw one parked outside a used car place and while it has a few things 
needing to be fixed, it is basically sound and without rust. It has 350K 
plus on the clock but drives like a car with half that mileage, wonder 
how a suby will be after those sort of K's? So far I have found no real 
nasty surprises in the TE. By the time I finished putting a bit of time 
and money into the TE, it will be a comfortable and safe family truck 
with the option of being able to carry 7 people or fold the seats down 
and carry a lot of stuff.

Hendrik

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2008 4:20 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Never drove a superroo so can't comment but I should imagine that it
>> would be like most Japanese cars, reliably boring and just not a drivers
>> car.
>> 
>
> I'm with you on most Japanese cars, but the recent Subarus I've driven
> have been exceptions to the rule, with a lot of character.  My
> girlfriend's mom has an '06 or '07 Legacy with the same turbo engine
> as the WRX---that car is a blast to drive though rather rough riding
> due to the optional 18" or some such ridiculously oversized rims she
> was talked into getting.  If I had one of those cars (actually, if I
> had ANY new car) I would immediately swap the huge wheels and
> low-profile tires they all seem to come with now for something with a
> sidewall appreciably thicker than my thumb.
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> '87 300D Turbo et al.
>
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Window switch primer

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> So, one bad switch will cause a non-functioning situation--is that 
> right?

Yes, either front or rear switch being bad will prevent the
associated rear window from operating.

> Well then, I'd best take them apart--bummer.

Hey, it's an easy job.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread LarryT
The symptoms indicate Valve Stem Seals. A car that idles then produces a 
plume of white smoke when the car pulls away are typically valve stem seal 
related.  A car that emits white smoke when driving at a steady speed 
indicates a problem with rings.

You indicated there was smoke after stopping at a light IIRC - Valve Stem 
Seals.  You will need to find a shop willing to use compressed air to hold 
the valves up (with the piston for that cylinder at TDC) while the seals are 
replaced.  Many will say the heads must be removed.

Good luck -

Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?


> So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that 
> evolution
> documented on a web page?
>
> Bob R
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:47 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
>
>> Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process...
>
> I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on
> one cylinder.  (It also fouled that plug quickly.)  I replaced
> only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several
> years before selling the car.  Cured the problem completely.
> It wasn't all that hard on that particular car.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax please?

2008-02-18 Thread John Freer
Thanks a million Dave.

John

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> VIN:4JGAB54EX1A272645
> Year:   2001
> Make:   Mercedes-Benz
> Model:  M Class ML320
> Style/Body: SUV / Utility 4D
> Class:  CUV - Premium
>
> Engine: 3.2L V6 EFI
> Country of Assembly:United States
> Vehicle Age:7 year(s)
> Calculated Owners:  2
> Last Reported
> Odometer Reading:   141,547
> This vehicle's AutoCheck Score
> 89 91-93
>
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> Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645) shows no negative
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>
> 0 Problem(s) Reported:  15 Title/Problem areas checked:
>No abandoned title record
>No damaged title or major damage incident record
>No fire damaged title record
>No grey market title record
>No hail damage title record
>No insurance loss title record
>No junk or scrapped title record
>No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
>No odometer problem title record
>No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
>No salvage title or salvage auction record
>No water damaged title record
>No NHTSA crash test record
>No frame damage record
>No recycling facility record
> OdometerCheck
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> readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class
> ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645) and no indication of an odometer rollback or
> tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if
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>
> 0 Problem(s) Reported:  Mileage Date Reported
>26,575  06/27/2002
>34,403  12/31/2002
>50,125  12/31/2003
>50,131  01/02/2004
>50,131  01/31/2004
>141,547 01/23/2007
> Vehicle Use and EventCheck vehicle history information has been found
> on this vehicle.
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> to AutoCheck about how this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320
> (4JGAB54EX1A272645)has been used and other events. This includes
> reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area
> registrations.
>
> 1 Event(s) Reported:5 Vehicle uses checked:
>Fleet, rental, lease and/or taxi use record(s)
>No police use record
>No government use record
>No livery use record
>No driver education record
> 3 Event(s) Reported:9 Vehicle events checked:
>No accident record reported through state agencies or independent 
> sources
>Corrected title record(s)
>No duplicate title record
>Emission/safety inspection record(s)
>Loan/Lien record(s)
>No fire damage incident record
>No repossessed record
>No theft record
>No storm area registration/title record
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> Report Run Date:: 02/18/2008
> Vehicle: 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645)
> Event date  LocationOdometer readingData Source 
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> 06/27/2002  PACIFIC SW REGION
> 26,575
>Auto AuctionAUCTION ANNOUNCED AS FLEET/LEASE
> 12/31/2002  PLEASANT GROVE, UT
>Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
> 12/31/2002  PACIFIC NW REGION
> 34,403
>Auto AuctionREPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
> 01/10/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT
>Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:UT1490860) (Lien Reported)
> 08/29/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax please?

2008-02-18 Thread dave walton
 Report Run Date: 02/18/2008
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VIN:4JGAB54EX1A272645
Year:   2001
Make:   Mercedes-Benz
Model:  M Class ML320
Style/Body: SUV / Utility 4D
Class:  CUV - Premium

Engine: 3.2L V6 EFI
Country of Assembly:United States
Vehicle Age:7 year(s)
Calculated Owners:  2
Last Reported
Odometer Reading:   141,547
This vehicle's AutoCheck Score
89 91-93

This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection
About Buyback Protection
Section summaries
Title and ProblemCheck: Your vehicle checks out!
OdometerCheck:  Your vehicle checks out!
Vehicle Use and EventCheck: Specific vehicle use(s) or events 
reported
Full History:   Detailed information available
Title and ProblemCheck AutoCheck your title with TitleCheck.
This car checks out with AutoCheck vehicle history. 

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2001
Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645) shows no negative
titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can
indicate serious past damage or other significant problems.

0 Problem(s) Reported:  15 Title/Problem areas checked:
No abandoned title record
No damaged title or major damage incident record
No fire damaged title record
No grey market title record
No hail damage title record
No insurance loss title record
No junk or scrapped title record
No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
No odometer problem title record
No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
No salvage title or salvage auction record
No water damaged title record
No NHTSA crash test record
No frame damage record
No recycling facility record
OdometerCheck
This car checks out with AutoCheck vehicle history. 

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer
readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class
ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645) and no indication of an odometer rollback or
tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if
reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously
reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title
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0 Problem(s) Reported:  Mileage Date Reported   
26,575  06/27/2002  
34,403  12/31/2002  
50,125  12/31/2003  
50,131  01/02/2004  
50,131  01/31/2004  
141,547 01/23/2007  
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on this vehicle.
A problem has been found with this vehicle's title. 

Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported
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reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area
registrations.

1 Event(s) Reported:5 Vehicle uses checked:
Fleet, rental, lease and/or taxi use record(s)
No police use record
No government use record
No livery use record
No driver education record
3 Event(s) Reported:9 Vehicle events checked:
No accident record reported through state agencies or independent 
sources
Corrected title record(s)
No duplicate title record
Emission/safety inspection record(s)
Loan/Lien record(s)
No fire damage incident record
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No theft record
No storm area registration/title record
Full History Here is your full AutoCheck vehicle history report.
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Report Run Date:: 02/18/2008
Vehicle: 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54EX1A272645)
Event date  LocationOdometer readingData Source Details
06/27/2002  PACIFIC SW REGION   
26,575
Auto AuctionAUCTION ANNOUNCED AS FLEET/LEASE
12/31/2002  PLEASANT GROVE, UT  
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
12/31/2002  PACIFIC NW REGION   
34,403
Auto AuctionREPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
01/10/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT  
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:UT1490860) (Lien Reported)
08/29/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT  
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:UT2021667)
08/31/2003  PLEASANT GROVE, UT  
Motor Vehicle Dept. CORRECTED TITLE
08/31/2003  PLEAS

Re: [MBZ] Window switch primer

2008-02-18 Thread Zeitgeist
So, one bad switch will cause a non-functioning situation--is that right?
Well then, I'd best take them apart--bummer.

On Feb 18, 2008 11:18 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Hey, remind me whether the power window circuit requires both switches
> > to be
> > fully operational in order for the window to function.
>
> Both switches have to be good in order for the _rear_ window
> to work.
>
> -- Jim
>
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[MBZ] Carfax please?

2008-02-18 Thread John Freer
Anyone with a carfax would be appreciated if you could run

4JGAB54EX1A272645

Should be a 2001 ML 320.

Thanks

John

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Re: [MBZ] gmail??

2008-02-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Thunderbird stores email folders in some weird place and format, and not 
intuitively named or easy to discern.

--R

dave walton wrote:
> Under Windows I periodically open Outlook Express configured for POP3
> to Gmail (http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273)
> and suck in a copy of my inbox. You can then copy off the Outlook
> Express datafile.
>
> You need to use IMAP if you want a copy of subfolders. Outlook Express
> does not do IMAP. Outlook does. Thunderbird does.
> (http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725)
>
> The web is full of horror stories where Gmail users lost everything
> for various reasons, so grabbing a backup now and then is a good
> thing.
>
> Remember to set the mail client to leave a copy of mail on the server,
> or else it will be deleted from Gmail when you sync - which may or may
> not be desired. I suspect Google keeps a copy of all mail even if you
> delete it since they have been instrumental in identifying people to
> law enforcement when motivated to do so. Once it is deleted, it is
> gone for good as far as us ordinary people are concerned.
>
> -Dave Walton
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 12:21 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Ok, dumb question, but how do I save an email in gmail to a folder on my
>> HD.  I have a bunch I want to save to my HD, then burn to a CD.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
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Re: [MBZ] Window switch primer

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> Hey, remind me whether the power window circuit requires both switches 
> to be
> fully operational in order for the window to function.

Both switches have to be good in order for the _rear_ window
to work.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Window switch primer

2008-02-18 Thread Rich Thomas
You either need to take the switches apart (do it in a plastic bag so 
when the parts fly all over they are contained) and clean them, or 
CHANGE YOUR FUSES!  One fuse operates cross-opposite windows.  The 
actual wiring is not clear as there are 3 or 4 wires going to each 
switch and some of them are common (power on the cross windows).  I 
tried tracing them once and gave up, it might be in the manual somewhere 
though.  The switches get all gunked up, a good cleaning restores 
functionality (usually).

--R

Zeitgeist wrote:
> Hey, remind me whether the power window circuit requires both switches to be
> fully operational in order for the window to function.   I don't have my CD
> manual with me, so I can't check the diagram.  The motor works, but I can't
> get the switches to initiate action.  I think there might be some funky
> wiring in the bellows where they run through the door.
>
> TIA
>
> Casey
> '87 300TD
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[MBZ] Window switch primer

2008-02-18 Thread Zeitgeist
Hey, remind me whether the power window circuit requires both switches to be
fully operational in order for the window to function.   I don't have my CD
manual with me, so I can't check the diagram.  The motor works, but I can't
get the switches to initiate action.  I think there might be some funky
wiring in the bellows where they run through the door.

TIA

Casey
'87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> So you think it might simply be valve stem seals?

I do not know.  I was sweating the SL's problem, but decided
to risk the small price of a seal kit and some time before
diving into major engine work.  Fortunately for me it worked.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] gmail??

2008-02-18 Thread E M
Thanks Dave,

Ed
300E

On 18/02/2008, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Under Windows I periodically open Outlook Express configured for POP3
> to Gmail (http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273)
> and suck in a copy of my inbox. You can then copy off the Outlook
> Express datafile.
>
> You need to use IMAP if you want a copy of subfolders. Outlook Express
> does not do IMAP. Outlook does. Thunderbird does.
> (http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725)
>
> The web is full of horror stories where Gmail users lost everything
> for various reasons, so grabbing a backup now and then is a good
> thing.
>
> Remember to set the mail client to leave a copy of mail on the server,
> or else it will be deleted from Gmail when you sync - which may or may
> not be desired. I suspect Google keeps a copy of all mail even if you
> delete it since they have been instrumental in identifying people to
> law enforcement when motivated to do so. Once it is deleted, it is
> gone for good as far as us ordinary people are concerned.
>
> -Dave Walton
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 12:21 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 head number & tranny "mating

2008-02-18 Thread Zeitgeist
The head # is located down on the head, between Cyls 1 & 2, or 2 & 3 --
can't remember which set.

No, I believe the OM60x engines all use a different bell housing than the
earlier OM617 engines, so the trannies are all different.

On Feb 18, 2008 9:27 AM, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Where can you find what # the head is on an OM603? I THINK it is on the
> part of the intake manifold that comes over the top of the engine. You can
> see writing very clearly on this one:
>
>
> http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=531353&image=101662449&images=101661954,101661983,101662012,101662039,101662074,101662103,101662127,101662154,101662171,101662186,101662209,101662236,101662257,101662278,101662298,101662327,101662350,101662382,101662413,101662449,101662477&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0
>
> just an example...Isn't it near the end of that number? a 15, 17, 19, or
> 21?
>
> SECOND QUESTION: how easily does an OM603 mate to the stock tranny in my
> '85 300SD?
>
>
> THANKS!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
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> -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, "Der Abschleppwagen"
> & '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt & '84 300Dt
> -Anke & Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) & Nanook (Siberian Husky)
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Re: [MBZ] gmail??

2008-02-18 Thread dave walton
Under Windows I periodically open Outlook Express configured for POP3
to Gmail (http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273)
and suck in a copy of my inbox. You can then copy off the Outlook
Express datafile.

You need to use IMAP if you want a copy of subfolders. Outlook Express
does not do IMAP. Outlook does. Thunderbird does.
(http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725)

The web is full of horror stories where Gmail users lost everything
for various reasons, so grabbing a backup now and then is a good
thing.

Remember to set the mail client to leave a copy of mail on the server,
or else it will be deleted from Gmail when you sync - which may or may
not be desired. I suspect Google keeps a copy of all mail even if you
delete it since they have been instrumental in identifying people to
law enforcement when motivated to do so. Once it is deleted, it is
gone for good as far as us ordinary people are concerned.

-Dave Walton



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> Ok, dumb question, but how do I save an email in gmail to a folder on my
> HD.  I have a bunch I want to save to my HD, then burn to a CD.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
> 300E
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[MBZ] OM603 head number & tranny "mating"

2008-02-18 Thread Christopher McCann
Where can you find what # the head is on an OM603? I THINK it is on the part of 
the intake manifold that comes over the top of the engine. You can see writing 
very clearly on this one: 

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=531353&image=101662449&images=101661954,101661983,101662012,101662039,101662074,101662103,101662127,101662154,101662171,101662186,101662209,101662236,101662257,101662278,101662298,101662327,101662350,101662382,101662413,101662449,101662477&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0

just an example...Isn't it near the end of that number? a 15, 17, 19, or 21?

SECOND QUESTION: how easily does an OM603 mate to the stock tranny in my '85 
300SD?


THANKS!

Chris




CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB
-1985 300SD, 369K km, "Wulf"
-1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, "Der Abschleppwagen"
& '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt & '84 300Dt
-Anke & Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) & Nanook (Siberian Husky)
   
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[MBZ] gmail??

2008-02-18 Thread E M
Ok, dumb question, but how do I save an email in gmail to a folder on my
HD.  I have a bunch I want to save to my HD, then burn to a CD.

Thanks,

Ed
300E
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Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?

2008-02-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 16, 2008 6:07 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're not required to us parking lights here, but I would often see them
> used in Italy.  I've always been curious, just how long can you leave a
> parking light on, before it drains the battery to the point where it's a
> problem starting, or, it will start, but then you're asking the alt to work
> overtime to charge the depleted battery?
>

Measure the amp draw of the parking lights across the fuse with a
multiyard and divide into the amp-hour rating of your battery?  The
actual computation is left as an exercise for the student.  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] 1988 190-E - Questions please.

2008-02-18 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 2/17/2008 11:25:27 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There's  a 1988 190-E for sale locally. Description is "clean" but don't have
all  the particulars except mileage is 180K, automatic.

I'm not familiar  with the "gassers." Trying to help my boss find an
economical car for his  son.

Anyone wanna give me advice about this model? What to look fo/out  for? What
to expect? Typical economy and routine  costs?



>From what I have heard, you would want to avoid the 190s  with  the 2.6 
engine, which is a 6 cylinder engine jammed into a very tight  space.  Lots of 
heat 
related issues.  Not to mention the cost of  removing stuff to make repairs.
 
Also, the AC condenser and/or it's piping, had a design problem, causing  
freon leaks.  All AC work is expensive on MB, so make sure it works.  
 
Mileage should be in the mid 20s and as high as 32 at steady road travel.  

Jim  Friesen
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98 ML 320, 153 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
Mitch typed:

"I'd unhook the breather tube from the valve cover, or reroute it to a jar.
If the car quits burning oil and sprays it out the breather instead,
you might see if there's a big gap in the breather tube in the valve
cover. 

If the oil still comes out the exhaust without the breather dumping
oil in the intake, it's got to be coming through the rings, valve
guides, or head gasket. If the car passes a cylinder leakdown test,
I'd think the valve stem seals would be worth trying."

AH HA!  A troubleshooting plan. The nuke in me likes it.

Bob R.


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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote:
> 
> So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that evolution
> documented on a web page?

I'd unhook the breather tube from the valve cover, or reroute it to a jar.
If the car quits burning oil and sprays it out the breather instead,
you might see if there's a big gap in the breather tube in the valve
cover. 

If the oil still comes out the exhaust without the breather dumping
oil in the intake, it's got to be coming through the rings, valve
guides, or head gasket. If the car passes a cylinder leakdown test,
I'd think the valve stem seals would be worth trying.

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Re: [MBZ] OT was Subaru Diesel, now Honda Diesel

2008-02-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 16, 2008 3:42 PM, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Honda will be importing the 2009 Accord which is 50 state legal,
> without additives, such as urea.  Jalopnik as a road test and driving
> impression of the Q7 4.2TDI and the Civic with the same engine as will
> be imported in the Accord.
>

I'm betting that will be the "tipping point" for the resurgence of
diesel in the USA.  From everything I've read about the Honda diesels,
they've been engineered with the #1 priority being that they drive
like a gasser---more power, less torque, and much less klatta klatta
than the diesels of yore.

Sounds completely unappealing to me, but then I'm not Joe American Car Buyer.

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that evolution
documented on a web page? 

Bob R

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

> Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process...

I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on
one cylinder.  (It also fouled that plug quickly.)  I replaced
only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several
years before selling the car.  Cured the problem completely.
It wasn't all that hard on that particular car.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process...

I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on
one cylinder.  (It also fouled that plug quickly.)  I replaced
only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several
years before selling the car.  Cured the problem completely.
It wasn't all that hard on that particular car.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1988 190-E - Questions please.

2008-02-18 Thread Gary Hurst
what is the asking price?  is it a 4 cylinder, yes?

On Feb 18, 2008 1:22 AM, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There's a 1988 190-E for sale locally. Description is "clean" but don't
> have
> all the particulars except mileage is 180K, automatic.
>
> I'm not familiar with the "gassers." Trying to help my boss find an
> economical car for his son.
>
> Anyone wanna give me advice about this model? What to look fo/out for?
> What
> to expect? Typical economy and routine costs?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?

2008-02-18 Thread Robert Rentfro
I'll take your word for it.

Bob R.

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Or by cranking the engine so each cylinder is at TDC when you work on it's
valves.  Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a pain-staking process,
don't ask me how I know

Luther

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:50:49 -0600, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> An engine that smokes after a short idle is an indication the Valve Stem
> Seals are bad.   There are ways to change them by pressurizing the
cylinder
> and avoiding removal of the head.  At least thats the way it is done on
> gassers and I see no reason why a diesel couldn't be done the same way.
>
> Anyway, that is
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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>

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'82 300CD (166 kmi)
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'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] 190D status

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> Is this the Nippondenso compressor? If it is, make sure you check the
> clearance at the thrust washer is correct. Don't forget to actually 
> use the
> thrust washer.

You referring to the little washer that sits behind the
front hub that appears to set the clutch spacing?  I put
the same one back.  By eye it looks good, much like the
300E's compressor I had sitting next to it.

On the plus side, if it _does_ slip the belt-saver will
stop it before there's much damage.  It appears to have
saved the compressor itself when it seized up.

My brother the mechanic, who seems to be becoming more at
peace with my nickel-pinching ways, said my black smudge
was probably the infamous Black Death.  It didn't seem deathly
enough to me, but what do I know?  He suggested picking
up an in-line filter at NAPA.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1988 190-E - Questions please.

2008-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> Anyone wanna give me advice about this model? What to look out for?

Head gasket!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300TE

2008-02-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Saw a collection of "guest workers" and their assorted hangers-on 
yesterday in a pickup.  7 up front and 3 in the bed, no seatbelts for 
any of them, tooling down the freeway at about 70mph, weaving in and out 
of traffic.

--R

Hendrik & Fay wrote:
> Does the superpoo come with 7 seats?
> What about in a bad accident? Don't worry too much about those wonky 
> safety ratings but look at real world crashes.
>   
>

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Re: [MBZ] Email Challenges

2008-02-18 Thread Jeff Zedic
Dave,

I'm not having any troubles posting but do notice that the list volume seems
to be a bit less than usual.

Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] Email Challenges

2008-02-18 Thread Dave H...
Is anyone else having group list email challenges?

Every email I am sending to:   mercedes@okiebenz.com   I am receiving the 
response delivery delayed and then eventually delivery failure.


Dave H...


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TE

> Currently owning a 92 300TDt and having owned a 89 300TE I can say I'm
> bias.
> Fine cars, with mb-tex you don't need those sheepskin covers, it's
> indestructible.
>
> An E320 wagon is hot stuff, very fast, good milage, work horse, my
> wife has
> filled them with dirt, 700 lb of lumber, oh endless list of crimes...
> Likely you can find
> one with all the maintenance done.
>
> As for the 4matic ones, I understand once the previous owner has
> suffered thru the 7 odd revisions
> to the transfer case they are acceptable. In looking check with the
> dealer to ensure you've the last
> revision, otherwise you'll be out $$$ for a new one someday soon.
>
> If you want something very modern a C class wagon 2003ish era is very
> nice, real rocket.
> Ensure of course the owner has had all the 2000 era mercedes issues
> fixed.
>
> On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
>
>> Well, I have a 124 wagon, and as an alternative.
>
>
> John
> 1983 300TDt  386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
> 1990's 300TDt  216k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
> 1993 500SEL 206k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 500K

2008-02-18 Thread LarryT
Hi Tom,
BTW, When did you come to own such a beauty?Have you been working on 
it for a long time or is it a new project?  What's the general condition of 
the car?  From the photo I saw of the front of the car it sure looks like a 
beauty!

Does it have any history?  Like being owned my Marlene Dietrick (sp?) ? 
;-)  That car must have really turned heads back in the 30s when it was 
first released - because it sure turns heads now ;-)   I'll bet cruising on 
the interstate is an amazing experience in the 500K.   How many speeds in 
the gearbox?

Not trying to pry - just curious -

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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 500K


>E M wrote:
>> Before starting it, hope you filled it with Mobil 1 and changed all the
>> fuses/  ;-)
>
> Naw, diesel-rated Delvac 1300 from evil Wal-Mart.  I'm just going to
> change it in a couple of miles anyway.
>
> Tom
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