Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
tom savage wrote: I saw something troubling today - a rusty W220 S-Class. It had rust bubbling out of the bottoms of all doors and quite a bit on the trunklid. And Texas license plates. Anyone else seeing this? I used to see a lot of repairable flood cars in Great Lakes area salvage yards. Then one time I noticed that all the cars with plates had TX plates. Then I saw a Houston dealership license frame on a Benz and it all came together. They were importing saltwater flood cars to sell in a freshwater area. Pity, one of them was a beautiful red 1985 500SL with euro lights. This was maybe 6 months after Houston Galveston had a rather famous hurricane induced storm surge. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Rinspeed goes the AmphiCar one better.
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Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Earning? I was a graduate student at the time and director of a dormitory, with a very part time job. I was not earning much, but really don't remember anything but being broke about all the time. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel Bill, Just wondering... How much were you earning in the mid 70's? Take care, Chuck On Feb 21, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Bill R wrote: So we have $.20/gallon in the 1930's and $.23 in the mid 1960's. I sure wish fuel prices had stayed on that track. In the mid 1970's I had a grey market Alfa GTV with dual Webbers. I was getting 45 mpg at 70 mph on the highway and I can't recall the in-town mileage. I lived on the NW side of Indianapolis and worked a couple of days a week on the East side. I was averaging $2.50 a week for fuel, though if you counted repair and maintenance costs that didn't matter as much as it should have. BillR -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/21/08 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel I remember my sister paying a dollar for five gallons of gas during the 1930s. This was for the first car in the family; a 1928 Oakland which had wooden spoke wheels, a cloth top, and a rumble seat. The filling station across the street had gravity flow pumps. The attendant would hand pump the amount of gas you wanted into a glass cylinder at the top of the pump which was marked off in gallons, and then it would drain by gravity through the hose and into your tank. Some stations would keep the cylinder full and dispense it between the gallon marks. One day we heard a loud boom and the house windows rattled. A fellow who was putting gas in the tank of a model T Ford at the station across the street was standing over the tank which was under the front seat. When he lit a cigarette the gas exploded and blew him out of the car. That was on Market Street in New Albany, Indiana. Gerry - - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred, if $.38 is the lowest you remember you are still a kid on this list. I remember paying $.23 on a car I was driving. Ocala, FL, and had to be 1966. BillR -Original Message- From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/20/08 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel At 07:00 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote: Yes, 3.79 here for the frothy stuff. I still think overall the government or some evil entity in power is trying to counteract the benefits diesel drivers get in fuel mileage. With what looks like diesel popularity increasing faster than ever (talk of Subaru diesels and Honda diesels and the like) I bet the price differential in fuel will stay or increase. Brian longing for the days when gas was like $.97 per gallon and diesel about $.85 Hi, All. Though not the oldest on the list. I can remember when, in 70-71 at the Getty station that I ran, premium gas was 38 cents and received many complaints that the price was 2 cents too high! My latest acquisition is now running on 5 cylinders. Some As..le Fumble fingered high I.Q. Type Mekanique, replaced the delivery valve seals and left 2 of them loose. (20nm, loosen, 20nm, loosen, 35nm, e viola) Many thanks to our dear departed Doctor Professor Booth! Fred Moir Older than dirt. Dieselitis Maximus 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent 87 190DT responding to treatment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] OT going green
Reminds me of an around-the-world sailor who once said, It's not how much you need, it's how *little* you really need. As evidenced by Brian -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT going green Very interesting Brian. Always good to get another perspective. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT going green Thanks, Randy, for your candor. I guess this whole being minimal thing comes easily to me so I can do it and brag about it. It just fits with my personality and lifestyle. I am pleased my simple things and living simply and minimally. Wastefulness just bothers me. And I think a major factor in this has been my poverty. For example when I was down to about nothing, and rolling dimes to buy food for the week, I started grabbing small handfulls of napkins from the fast food restaurants where I would get my $.99 burgers. I would use these napkins at home for everything, including toilet paper. So now that I (we - thanks wife) can afford toilet paper, I only use two squares at a time to stretch my dollar. This is just an example of the frugal aspect of my green-ness. And I lived without heat in Tucson. And it does indeed get cold there. No hot water either. So getting up in the morning for work and riding my bike in the 30 degrees sucked! And I only took showers after work when I was fully warmed up. Here again, I guess I was in training to be minimal. I don't mean to so much point fingers, I just share my rather extreme ways. I do recognize that there are limitations in peoples' lives. For instance, my wife was telling me how hot her 91 yr. old grandma keeps her house - she had the thermostat set to about 80!!!. I don't exactly feel she ought to change. I don't know what it's like to be that old and have my body feel cold all the time. And I know that not everybody can ride a bike either, for example. Before you expanded and explained that you need a vehicle to tow a boat and plywood, I was going to ask you, out of curiosity, why you need an F150. I think a lot of guys have a truck just because it's a manly thing to do. It does suck that when one needs a truck, one needs a truck and there's no getting around it. You either have one, borrow one, or rent one. I guess a second, more efficient vehicle is the solution. We have kept our Honda CRV even though it gets worse than 20 mpg around town. But sometimes we need to carry something big home from the hardware store or need to carry more than two people and dog which is not really feasible in one of our Benzes, unless that person really loves dogs and hair. What's more, it's been a lifesaver that we kept the CRV as my current job often involves delivering newspapers around this town which is made up largely of bumpy, windy, dark roads - some of them not paved and with big holes and dropoffs, etc. You almost need 4WD, and I wouldn't be willing to put the wear and tear of all the bouncing around and constant shifting and tight turns on one of our Benzes. So what do we do? I am forced to drive something around that gets 18 - 19 mpg in town and is bigger than I need. But at all other times, I choose the 25+ mpg-in-town or the 30+ mpg-in-town cars we have. That is IF I absolutely have to drive. If not, I ride my bike. But that's just me. I LOVE riding a bike, and HATE driving. So it comes naturally. Anyway, just more thoughts. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Racing driver from Stuttgart celebrates his 80th birthday
Mr Herman has had an amazing life career. Very talented. On his quitting after winning Le Mans, that was a time when drivers were killed on a regular basis. I think it was D Bell or B Redman who said there's a photo of 10 drivers from the late 60s and only 3 or 4 are still alive. He probably made a good decision - Thanks for posting that tribute - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] Racing driver from Stuttgart celebrates his 80th birthday Porsche Congratulates Motor Sport Legend Hans Herrmann Stuttgart. On February 23, 2008, Hans Herrmann, one of the most successful and popular works racing drivers of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, celebrates his 80th birthday. The endurance and Monoposto specialist, born in Stuttgart in 1928, is regarded as one of the most reliable and consistent race drivers of all time. In the course of his motor sport career, Hans Herrmann won more than 80 overall and best of class victories, most of them for Porsche. Dr. Wolfgang Porsche, Chairman of the Board of Porsche AG and Porsche Automobil Holding SE, said in praise of Hans Herrmann: “His versatility as a driver is legendary. Whether in Formula 1, hill climb or endurance races – his strong driving performance always impressed. And for nearly two decades he generally drove straight to the front, and stayed there.” He also drove for other manufacturers, but at heart Herrmann always remained a Porsche driver. The proverbial “Hans im Glück” (Hans in Luck) at the wheel celebrated his greatest successes with sports cars from Zuffenhausen: in the Mille Miglia, the Targa Florio, the Carrera Panamericana and of course in Le Mans, with the first overall victory for Porsche in 1970, driving a 917. His career began appropriately: in 1952, in a private Porsche 356, he took part in hill climbs, rallies and reliability runs. The very next year, he came fifth in the Lyon-Charbonnières Rally, together with Richard von Frankenberg in a Porsche 356. Thereupon Porsche’s racing manager at that time, Huschke von Hanstein, brought him into Porsche works team. In 1953, Herrmann went to the start for the first time in the 24 Hours of Le Mans where, together with co-pilot Helm Glöckler in a Porsche 550 Coupé, he gained a best of class victory in the category up to 1.5 liters capacity at his very first try. After Herrmann had also secured the title of German Sports Car Champion in the same year, he attracted the attention of Mercedes-Benz head of racing Alfred Neubauer, who integrated the 26-year-old into his works team along with Juan Manuel Fangio, Stirling Moss and Karl Kling. Parallel to this, in 1954 Herrmann continued to start for Porsche and gained prestigious class victories in the 550 Spyder in the Mille Miglia and the Carrera Panamericana. Never to be forgotten is the spectacular incident that occurred during the Mille Miglia in 1954, when Herrmann and his co-pilot Herbert Linge ducked flat under the barriers to cross the rails at a closed level crossing, right in the path of a rapidly approaching train. Later, Herrmann made a photo of the spectacular moment the subject of a letter card, with the inscription “Glück muss man haben” (“You’ve got to be lucky”). In conversation, he completed this definition in a much more serious undertone: “Glück hat, wer als Rennfahrer überlebt.” (“Luck, for a racing driver, is to survive”). When in 1955 the Daimler-Benz works withdrew from motor sport, Hans Herrmann was at the start again for Porsche. There followed the wandering years with Maserati, B.R.M and Borgward and, in 1959, the next homecoming to Herrmann’s ‘ own brand’, Porsche. Together with Olivier Gendebien in a Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder, he won the 1960 12 Hours of Sebring, achieving Porsche’s first overall victory in a manufacturers’ world championship endurance race. Shortly afterwards, the combination Hans Herrmann/Porsche RS 60 Spyder, together with Joakim Bonnier, also won the round Sicily ‘Targa Florio’. In 1960, Herrmann also became Formula 2 European Champion with the Porsche 718/2. In 1962 he changed to Carlo Abarth and was active as works driver for the Vienna design engineer from 1963. Three years later, in 1966, he returned to the Porsche works team once again. Not only did Herrmann take part in all the great endurance races, besides driving European hill climb championship courses; he also carried out countless test drives in the – then newly-opened – Weissach Development Center. In 1969 the Porsche works team, with pilots Hans Herrmann, Jo Siffert, Vic Elford, Rolf
Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame
That's a valid point I'd say. Makes sense to me...the vep has a pretty low profile. BTW, who is the veep now? (no I'm not joking)What the hell does he do all day anyway? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Wow! That's pretty steep. I got 8 for $10 at Costco (in Va) a few months ago. Personally I think they work pretty well. They take some time to warm up but once warmed up they're plenty bright for the locations they're in. Our bathroom ceiling light/exh fans are a PITA to change so the longer life is welcomed for that reason -- But I don't think regular light bulbs are causing any real problem. But someone is making money on this so it will get top billing - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate $8 each. Ed 300E On 22/02/2008, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did you last buy them?? They practically give the things away here. You can buy 6 for $5..I can't even look directly at the bulb because a 13 watt is too bright and hurts my eyes! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
you wroteits already hard for farmers in places like California to compete with population for water That's what happens when you live in a desert and depend on mountain snowfall hundreds of miles away to provide everyone with water. It's not possible to *not* have some years when there is less snowfall - and some with more snowfall. Weather is cyclical - that's all that can be depended on. Also, all the GW predictions are based on computer models - some are wildly optimistic and others are wildly pessimistic with the pro-GW crowd choosing the most pessimistic models. These same models surprise us with a foot of snow when light rain is predicted - for the next morning! And we're supposed to believe what they predict in 5-90 years? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Don't we? Ocean levels will rise, theres really no debate there. Fresh water stocks will become more precious, its already hard for farmers in places like California to compete with population for water... Sure I don't know if it'll kill us off like fish in a pond that gets too warm but I know it'll cause problems. As a side note I can't take credit for the idea (I ment to write an attribution before) theres a video on Youtube (I think) where a guy puts this forth, I just happen to agree. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:06:42 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt wrote: So if we do nothing we die. If we change our evil ways we have a 50% chance of dying. Your choice is certain death or a 50% chance of death. There is a flaw in your logic. The flaw is based on your assumption that global warming is a) getting worse b) actually going to cause us harm. Your argument is basically if we do something, we can reduce the risk that it is going to kill us. BUT, you have completely left out another possibility. Global warming (regardless of its cause) may not cause any harm. What we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect on us or the planet. Donald H. Snook - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I have a lot of MB documentation) because his 2000 S430 has flakes of paint falling off from the waist line down all around the car. Underneath the flaking paint was corrosion. He had bought the car new, was only serviced at a MB dealer and was never in an accident.MB declined to make any repairs or offer any compensation. He was preparing to file a lawsuit. As far as I can tell the problem is widespread but not present in all vehicles - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] W220 rust I saw something troubling today - a rusty W220 S-Class. It had rust bubbling out of the bottoms of all doors and quite a bit on the trunklid. And Texas license plates. Given that it was on three sides of the car, I'm not inclined to write it off as poorly repaired accident damage. I know the W210 likes to do the W108, but this is new to me (maybe I'm just not paying attention). Anyone else seeing this? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Penguins. I can understand the concern - their walk to the nesting sites was probably reduced. ;-) They probably can't stop talking about it. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jeff Zedic' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Antarctic has a local population? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/22/08 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Southern ice caps are growing?? Can you send me a link to that? The last I saw in the Antarctic, a 5 km long ice shelf cracked off and floated away causing great concern to the local population. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1293 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 9:21 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame
The current VP is Dick Chaney. He does a lot of hunting. ;-) So, we have algore being quiet on an issue that (according to him) is going to destroy the world? With the US being the problem and the solution yet he stays quiet for 8 years because of politics? That alone is reason to not trust his opinion on the price of tea let along the future of the world. Shows a decided lack of integrity. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame That's a valid point I'd say. Makes sense to me...the vep has a pretty low profile. BTW, who is the veep now? (no I'm not joking)What the hell does he do all day anyway? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame
At 09:26 AM 2/23/2008, you wrote: The current VP is Dick Chaney. He does a lot of hunting. ;-) So, we have algore being quiet That alone is reason to not trust his opinion on the price of tea let along the future of the world. Shows a decided lack of integrity. Folks This IS a Politician we are talking about, isn't it? Fred Moir Lynn MA Anone got any M1 on their fingers today? Fred, looking at a softly rounded white world. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Racing driver from Stuttgart celebrates his 80th birthday
You absolutely have to see this photo of him crashing a BRM at LeMans. (I think). The car is in front of him and tumbling through the air while he is sliding dow the track. He walked away! His are the BW photos. http://www.mundomotorizado.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=88t=10769 Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame
Jeff Zedic wrote: That's a valid point I'd say. Makes sense to me...the vep has a pretty low profile. BTW, who is the veep now? (no I'm not joking)What the hell does he do all day anyway? Richard Bruce (Dick) Cheney has been accused of running the country from the VP's office, much as Hillary Rodham Clinton was accused of trying to run the country as First Woman. (I've never called HRC a Lady) From Wiki:Cheney is generally acknowledged to be one of the most powerful and influential Vice Presidents in U.S. history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Donald wrote:we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect Exactly. All we have heard is the gloom and doom of GW when there is a possibility it will bring great changes to some - for instance, the growing/green regions of the world may increase leading to increased food production, a reduction in desert areas which may provide more living/growing areas for those scratching a living from land that typically hasn't grown more than weeds for as long as we know. There are potentially some positives that will come from a 1 or 2 degree rise in temp. But good news doesn't scare people and without scared people willing to thro money at a problem, no one gets rich by spreading good news Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Curt wrote: So if we do nothing we die. If we change our evil ways we have a 50% chance of dying. Your choice is certain death or a 50% chance of death. There is a flaw in your logic. The flaw is based on your assumption that global warming is a) getting worse b) actually going to cause us harm. Your argument is basically if we do something, we can reduce the risk that it is going to kill us. BUT, you have completely left out another possibility. Global warming (regardless of its cause) may not cause any harm. What we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect on us or the planet. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's?
Interested in the 1959 220S? If so then I can take pictures on Sunday. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's? well, its been done Tom Hargrave wrote: If the chain's been replaced then I'm interested. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/22/08 7:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's? It was done actually. Tom Hargrave wrote: It's safe to assume not, the conversion was expensive and most weren't. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/21/08 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's? Happen to know whether or not the timing has been converted to dual-chain? On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Needs a fuel filter, needs paint and interior, dont have pics yet Wonko the Sane wrote: What is wrong with the 380? You have pics? On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a SLC Wonko the Sane wrote: You will trade what? Delivered in Jefferson? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's?
well, its been done Tom Hargrave wrote: If the chain's been replaced then I'm interested. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/22/08 7:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's? It was done actually. Tom Hargrave wrote: It's safe to assume not, the conversion was expensive and most weren't. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/21/08 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's? Happen to know whether or not the timing has been converted to dual-chain? On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Needs a fuel filter, needs paint and interior, dont have pics yet Wonko the Sane wrote: What is wrong with the 380? You have pics? On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a SLC Wonko the Sane wrote: You will trade what? Delivered in Jefferson? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Transmission modulator replacement
Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? I can't get it out of the bore with reasonable force. Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! Tony Wirtel '91 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
I'm wondering if you perhaps have a voltage fluctuation issue that causes them to burn out. Perhaps you may need to address something there. Maybe, maybe not. I have been using CFL since the '80s when I had to buy them through industrial supply houses. I still have some that I have been using for nearly twenty years. OTOH, some cheap made in China fluorescents I have purchased recently didn't last as long as an incandescent. I have NO IDEA who makes high quality CFL at the present time. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: CF Bulbs Burning Out
My Son burns out bulbs fast in his house, the CFs burn out at about the same rate as incandescent bulbs. I checked his line voltage it's too high. His 120VAC measures 136 VAC. Apparently CF bulbs are less tolerant than incandescent bulbs to higher line voltages. I told him that he could call the utility company they will fix the over voltage problem by moving a tap on his line transformer at no charge. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate I'm wondering if you perhaps have a voltage fluctuation issue that causes them to burn out. Perhaps you may need to address something there. Maybe, maybe not. I have been using CFL since the '80s when I had to buy them through industrial supply houses. I still have some that I have been using for nearly twenty years. OTOH, some cheap made in China fluorescents I have purchased recently didn't last as long as an incandescent. I have NO IDEA who makes high quality CFL at the present time. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Rick Knoble wrote: I have NO IDEA who makes high quality CFL at the present time. My problem too. Feit used to sell CFLs made in France, I could buy them at Harbor Freight, Meijer and even Menards. Meijer still has Feit bulbs, they've been made in China for over five years, and are not the same design as the old ones, and do not last as long. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D Cylinder Head Removal
List- I have the engine from my 83 240D in my basement. I replaced it with another engine. I would like to remove the cylinder head without bending or breaking the cam chain. How do I do this? I have the proper MBZ tool for removing the head bolts. The engine has 0 compression in Cyl. #1. Once the head is removed the problem should be obvious. Thank you for your help. John Ingram ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Used Parts website?
I need a front bumper with foam for a 1991 E300TE 4Matic Wagon. Looks like 90-93 will fit. My Sister-in-law put her car into a snowbank and wants to keep the insurance company out of the deal. I had a link a while back to a website that looked like a place where a number of junkyards posted the items they had for sale. Can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Or have an extra bumper laying around? Thanks -Dave Walton On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? I can't get it out of the bore with reasonable force. Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! Tony Wirtel '91 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Cylinder Head Removal
Set to TDC, wire tie the cam sprocket to the chain, then use a bar through the holes in the sprocket to loosen the cam bolt. Remove chain tensioner, slide cam sproket off cam, and lower sprocket and chain into the chain case. At TDC, there is no tension on the vac pump, so the chain won't move. Unscrew bolts, remove intake/exhaust, etc, and it will come right off. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Used Parts website?
Earlier '86-'89 124 models will also work, but they lack the holes for the chrome strip under the headlights http://www.silverstarrecycling.com/ http://mbpartsonline.com/ And, of course, Kaleb sells used parts, but I don't know if he has much 124 stock On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:31 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a front bumper with foam for a 1991 E300TE 4Matic Wagon. Looks like 90-93 will fit. My Sister-in-law put her car into a snowbank and wants to keep the insurance company out of the deal. I had a link a while back to a website that looked like a place where a number of junkyards posted the items they had for sale. Can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Or have an extra bumper laying around? Thanks -Dave Walton On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? I can't get it out of the bore with reasonable force. Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! Tony Wirtel '91 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car Fax?
Report Run Date: 02/23/2008 The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below. AutoCheck Unlimited with TitleGuard - Optional upgrade for just $25.00 more! Protect your investment against title problems. Add TitleGuard protections to your unlimited 60-day AutoCheck subscription. VIN: WDBDB28D6HF334409 Year: 1987 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: 190 Series 190D Style/Body: Sedan 4D Class: Upscale - Luxury Engine: 2.5L I5 FI Country of Assembly: Germany Vehicle Age: 21 year(s) Calculated Owners: 3 This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 55 24-55 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection About Buyback Protection Section summaries Title and ProblemCheck:Your vehicle checks out! OdometerCheck:Your vehicle checks out! Vehicle Use and EventCheck:No vehicle use reported Full History:Detailed information available Title and ProblemCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190D (WDBDB28D6HF334409) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190D (WDBDB28D6HF334409) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported Vehicle Use and EventCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck shows no additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190D (WDBDB28D6HF334409)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations. 0 Event(s) Reported: 5 Vehicle uses checked: No fleet, rental, lease and/or taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 0 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record No emission/safety inspection record No loan/lien record No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date:: 02/23/2008 Vehicle: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190D (WDBDB28D6HF334409) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 03/17/1992 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 06/11/1996 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 05/12/1998 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 06/06/1998 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE 05/11/2000 RI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 05/01/2002 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 08/23/2002 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 11/04/2002 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 04/22/2003 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 04/26/2005 WESTERLY, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 01/03/2007 CHARLESTOWN, RI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. Could someone with an active carfax check this one for me/ WDBDB28D6HF334409 TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel dreams ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0
Re: [MBZ] OT: Rinspeed goes the AmphiCar one better.
I was getting excited there for a bit. But if they can't keep the occupants dry, it's going nowhere fast. -Dave Walton On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcing the Rinspeed sQuba, the first submersible amphibious automobile. Remember James Bond's Lotus Esprit in The Spy Who Loved Me? http://www.rinspeed.com/pages/cars/squba/pre-squba.htm video: http://rinspeed.com/pages/cars/squba/squba_tnm.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Used Parts website?
try this one www.car-parts.com On 2/23/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a front bumper with foam for a 1991 E300TE 4Matic Wagon. Looks like 90-93 will fit. My Sister-in-law put her car into a snowbank and wants to keep the insurance company out of the deal. I had a link a while back to a website that looked like a place where a number of junkyards posted the items they had for sale. Can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Or have an extra bumper laying around? Thanks -Dave Walton On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? I can't get it out of the bore with reasonable force. Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! Tony Wirtel '91 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Rinspeed goes the AmphiCar one better.
dave walton wrote: I was getting excited there for a bit. But if they can't keep the occupants dry, it's going nowhere fast. Ya, I was surprised to see that it was a roadster. Must have major drain holes in the cockpit floor for when you leave the water. I also wonder how well it goes in sand and mud, or if you are supposed to don your SCUBA gear and head for a boat launching ramp. It takes a special car do duplicate the Commander Bond drives onto the crowded beach scene instead of goofball with more money than brains gets his car stuck on the beach. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
sorry for late reply I keep chickens. Small city yard and this is about all that fits. Great for allergy prone kids too. They feel. both pain and emotion. Chickens are very loving birds when given love from the start. They can become feral and lose that loving feeling, but I raise mine from peeps and there is nothing comes closer to holding a chicken and petting her as she cuddles up on you. Well, maybe a new baby comes close. Chickens will imprint on their caregiver and being social animals, will take you into the flock as head chicken in charge. At least I am papa chicken. They also are able to select who they want to associate with. A chicken will decide that certain folks are just wrong, but it is individual to the bird and not a flock thing. My birds are not fond of my youngest, and one hen is pretty unhappy with me, but adores my oldest boy. go figure clay On 14 Feb 2008, at 09:32, andrew strasfogel wrote: Not sure about feelings but they certainly feel pain. O ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Lucky guy, wish I lived in a place that allowed a few such animals. Ed 300E On 23/02/2008, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry for late reply I keep chickens. Small city yard and this is about all that fits. Great for allergy prone kids too. They feel. both pain and emotion. Chickens are very loving birds when given love from the start. They can become feral and lose that loving feeling, but I raise mine from peeps and there is nothing comes closer to holding a chicken and petting her as she cuddles up on you. Well, maybe a new baby comes close. Chickens will imprint on their caregiver and being social animals, will take you into the flock as head chicken in charge. At least I am papa chicken. They also are able to select who they want to associate with. A chicken will decide that certain folks are just wrong, but it is individual to the bird and not a flock thing. My birds are not fond of my youngest, and one hen is pretty unhappy with me, but adores my oldest boy. go figure clay On 14 Feb 2008, at 09:32, andrew strasfogel wrote: Not sure about feelings but they certainly feel pain. O ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Alybody remember the gas wars of the 60s on the highway to Boston from New Haven? There was a strip with traffic lights and many competing gas stations, one of which had it down to $.22/gal. during the war. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Earning? I was a graduate student at the time and director of a dormitory, with a very part time job. I was not earning much, but really don't remember anything but being broke about all the time. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel Bill, Just wondering... How much were you earning in the mid 70's? Take care, Chuck On Feb 21, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Bill R wrote: So we have $.20/gallon in the 1930's and $.23 in the mid 1960's. I sure wish fuel prices had stayed on that track. In the mid 1970's I had a grey market Alfa GTV with dual Webbers. I was getting 45 mpg at 70 mph on the highway and I can't recall the in-town mileage. I lived on the NW side of Indianapolis and worked a couple of days a week on the East side. I was averaging $2.50 a week for fuel, though if you counted repair and maintenance costs that didn't matter as much as it should have. BillR -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/21/08 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel I remember my sister paying a dollar for five gallons of gas during the 1930s. This was for the first car in the family; a 1928 Oakland which had wooden spoke wheels, a cloth top, and a rumble seat. The filling station across the street had gravity flow pumps. The attendant would hand pump the amount of gas you wanted into a glass cylinder at the top of the pump which was marked off in gallons, and then it would drain by gravity through the hose and into your tank. Some stations would keep the cylinder full and dispense it between the gallon marks. One day we heard a loud boom and the house windows rattled. A fellow who was putting gas in the tank of a model T Ford at the station across the street was standing over the tank which was under the front seat. When he lit a cigarette the gas exploded and blew him out of the car. That was on Market Street in New Albany, Indiana. Gerry - - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred, if $.38 is the lowest you remember you are still a kid on this list. I remember paying $.23 on a car I was driving. Ocala, FL, and had to be 1966. BillR -Original Message- From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/20/08 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel At 07:00 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote: Yes, 3.79 here for the frothy stuff. I still think overall the government or some evil entity in power is trying to counteract the benefits diesel drivers get in fuel mileage. With what looks like diesel popularity increasing faster than ever (talk of Subaru diesels and Honda diesels and the like) I bet the price differential in fuel will stay or increase. Brian longing for the days when gas was like $.97 per gallon and diesel about $.85 Hi, All. Though not the oldest on the list. I can remember when, in 70-71 at the Getty station that I ran, premium gas was 38 cents and received many complaints that the price was 2 cents too high! My latest acquisition is now running on 5 cylinders. Some As..le Fumble fingered high I.Q. Type Mekanique, replaced the delivery valve seals and left 2 of them loose. (20nm, loosen, 20nm, loosen, 35nm, e viola) Many thanks to our dear departed Doctor Professor Booth! Fred Moir Older than dirt. Dieselitis Maximus 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent 87 190DT responding to treatment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official
[MBZ] Nebraska Rod Bender
http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/583609650.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
We'll lose permafrost, Caribou and Elk will be negatively impacted, never mind the polar bears. How do we know the deserts will grow stuff its water they need not heat. Most of the added water will be salt water after all. I think its probably more likely we'll see desert areas grow... Never the less this is the last I'm going to say on the issue. I tire of it already, I don't see any of us likely to budge from our position. -Curt Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:12:17 -0500 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Donald wrote:we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect Exactly. All we have heard is the gloom and doom of GW when there is a possibility it will bring great changes to some - for instance, the growing/green regions of the world may increase leading to increased food production, a reduction in desert areas which may provide more living/growing areas for those scratching a living from land that typically hasn't grown more than weeds for as long as we know. There are potentially some positives that will come from a 1 or 2 degree rise in temp. But good news doesn't scare people and without scared people willing to thro money at a problem, no one gets rich by spreading good news Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?
My name's on the list, where's yours?? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message Good luck with this and have fun! This is a 5th grade math problem. If you can't stand word math problems, just delete now. If you can open the spreadsheet, you'll see it's a very small list of people who have gotten the correct number. This is not a trick question. This is a real math problem so don't say that a bus has no legs. There are 7 girls in a bus Each girl has 7 backpacks In each backpack, there are 7 big cats For every big cat there are 7 little cats Question: How many legs are there in the bus? The number of legs is the password to unlock the Excel sheet. If you open it, add your name and send it on to see who else can unlock it. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Smarterthana5th grader.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 147968 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080221/0e757f5b/attachment.xls ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: How old is Grandpa???
Thought ya'll might get a kick out of this - Larry T - Original Message - From: To: LarryT Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:43 AM Subject: How old is Grandpa??? You probably have seen this before, but I get a kick out of it every time I read it... Don How old is Grandpa??? Stay with this -- the answer is at the end. It will blow you away. One evening a grandson was talking to his grandfather about current events. The grandson asked his grandfather what he thought about the shootings at schools, the computer age, and just things in general. The Grandfather replied, 'Well, let me think a minute, I was born before: ' television ' penicillin ' polio shots ' frozen foods ' Xerox ' contact lenses ' Frisbees and ' the pill There were no: ' credit cards ' laser beams or ' ball-point pens Man had not invented: ' pantyhose ' air conditioners ' dishwashers ' clothes dryers ' and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and ' man hadn't yet walked on the moon Your Grandmother and I got married first, . . . and then lived together. Every family had a father and a mother. Until I was 25, I called every man older than me, 'Sir'. And after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man with a title, 'Sir.' We were before gay-rights, computer- dating, dual careers, daycare centers, and group therapy. Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good judgment, and common sense. We were taught to know the difference between right and wrong and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions. Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country was a bigger privilege. We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent. Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along with your cousins. Draft dodgers were people who closed their front doors when the evening breeze started. Time sharing meant the time the family spent together in the evenings and weekends, not a purchased condominium. We never heard of FM radio, cassette decks, CDs, electric typewriters, yogurt or guys wearing earrings. We listened to big bands, Jack Benny, and the presidents speeches on the radio. If you saw ! anything with 'Made in Japan' on it, it was junk. The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your school exam. Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffe e were unheard of. We had 5 10-cent stores where you could actually buy things for 5 and 10 cents. Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a Pepsi were all a nickel. And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend your nickel on enough stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards. You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600, . . . but who could afford one? Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon. In my day: ' 'grass' was mowed, ' 'coke' was a cold drink, ' 'pot' was something your mother cooked in and ' 'rock music' was your grandmother's lullaby. ' 'Aids' were helpers in the Principal's office, ' 'chip' meant a piece of wood, ' 'hardware' was found in a hardware store and ' 'software' wasn't even a word. And we were the last generation to actually believe that a lady needed a husband to have a baby. No wonder people call us 'old and confused' and say there is a generation gap... and how old do you think I am? I bet you have this old man in mind...you are in for a shock! Read on to see -- pretty scary if you think about it and pretty sad at the same time. This man would be only 59 years old ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) From: Brittany Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: auntie nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED], becky warren [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dad [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hansini Krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED], Katie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kotzmans [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lauren Dowell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lindsey [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mandy [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matt Talaga [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rachael Partyka [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tina Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED], uncle billy [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, uncle hank [EMAIL PROTECTED], uncle mike [EMAIL PROTECTED], webie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: How old is Grandpa??? Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:57:44 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: How old is Grandpa??? Date: Fri, 15
[MBZ] lovley 1967 200D Mercedes Benz for sale $3500 or best offer - $3500 (Cambridge)
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Re: [MBZ] 190D question
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:22:34 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dork that I am, I neglected to make clear that only the manual transmission cars have the damper. Hence my problem. If you have an AT don't waste your time looking! Danke. -- Jim On Friday, February 22, 2008, at 08:19 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Does anybody have a 190D (201) they can look at to tell me how the throttle damper (little hydraulic cylinder looking thing) mounts to the injection pump? There's a ball for it on the IP's control arm, but where/how the other end mates is a mystery. I'm guessing there's some sort of bracket attached to the intake manifold, but I don't know. (The car never had one before, because it used to have an automatic transmission.) A description would be nice, or perhaps a little digital picture? I'm at the stage where I'm putting the intake manifold back on, and don't want to have to take it off again once I do. When I put the manual transmission and 617 in our car, I added the throttle damper by getting a thread-mounting ball from a junk injection pump and threading it into the appropriate threaded hole on the engine side of my injection pump. It's shown in the attached picture in the upper left, about an inch in front of the socket head cap screw. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: injection.pump.5.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 171639 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080222/788d3236/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nebraska Rod Bender
Rick Knoble wrote: http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/583609650.html We were driving and lost oil pressure, Doesn't the 350SD have an oil level warning light for when the engine starts burning oil? At any rate, I wouldn't mess with it unless I had a 603 I wanted to find a home for, and wouldn't pay $2000 for a motorless W126. $500-800 and I'd be all over it if it were close to me and I had a spare engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame
As I recall, the NY Times was a good newspaper in my youth (50s). Now, it seems more like a PAC masquerading as a newspaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame yeah, those kids at pravda are a hoot! those rare times i do watch the news at home, i'd have to say my preference also goes to BBC. my dad was a daily cover to cover new york times reader and that was the standard for news in our house. BBC still seems to be on that page and hasn't yet converted over the tabloid news entertainment every other outlet seems to have adopted. despite that large carton of PG tips in my cupboard, and waking up at 7 on saturday for a full day of premiership action, i'd like to think i haven't become an anglophile. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Let's go back to the good old days before we screwed up the environment ... and most of North America was covered with ice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Donald wrote:we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect Exactly. All we have heard is the gloom and doom of GW when there is a possibility it will bring great changes to some - for instance, the growing/green regions of the world may increase leading to increased food production, a reduction in desert areas which may provide more living/growing areas for those scratching a living from land that typically hasn't grown more than weeds for as long as we know. There are potentially some positives that will come from a 1 or 2 degree rise in temp. But good news doesn't scare people and without scared people willing to thro money at a problem, no one gets rich by spreading good news Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Curt wrote: So if we do nothing we die. If we change our evil ways we have a 50% chance of dying. Your choice is certain death or a 50% chance of death. There is a flaw in your logic. The flaw is based on your assumption that global warming is a) getting worse b) actually going to cause us harm. Your argument is basically if we do something, we can reduce the risk that it is going to kill us. BUT, you have completely left out another possibility. Global warming (regardless of its cause) may not cause any harm. What we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect on us or the planet. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
Apparently Daimler is aware of the problem and is doing repairs on the quiet. However that may be just another internet myth. Isn't the 220 chassis galvanized? Hendrik who has a little bit of rust to fix in the 300TE LarryT wrote: I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I have a lot of MB documentation) because his 2000 S430 has flakes of paint falling off from the waist line down all around the car. Underneath the flaking paint was corrosion. He had bought the car new, was only serviced at a MB dealer and was never in an accident.MB declined to make any repairs or offer any compensation. He was preparing to file a lawsuit. As far as I can tell the problem is widespread but not present in all vehicles - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: How old is Grandpa???
reminds me of a Tim McGraw song I miss back when... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:15 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I have a lot of MB documentation) because his 2000 S430 has flakes of paint falling off from the waist line down all around the car. Underneath the flaking paint was corrosion. He had bought the car new, was only serviced at a MB dealer and was never in an accident.MB declined to make any repairs or offer any compensation. He was preparing to file a lawsuit. As far as I can tell the problem is widespread but not present in all vehicles - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] W220 rust I saw something troubling today - a rusty W220 S-Class. It had rust bubbling out of the bottoms of all doors and quite a bit on the trunklid. And Texas license plates. Given that it was on three sides of the car, I'm not inclined to write it off as poorly repaired accident damage. I know the W210 likes to do the W108, but this is new to me (maybe I'm just not paying attention). Anyone else seeing this? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] eBay 1990 124 diesel cheap
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ220205306215QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Cheap Florida 124 diesel. This one will go quick. $2700 buy it now and a seller with 100% feedback. I am tempted to buy it myself. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Why go back that far? Why not go back to the early 20th century when city streets were covered with horse poop from horse drawn buggies people poop from residents dumping their pans out the front window? Or go back to the mid-1800's when the river Themes (in England) got so polluted that people who fell into the river died from the chemical bath. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/23/08 6:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Let's go back to the good old days before we screwed up the environment ... and most of North America was covered with ice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Donald wrote:we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect Exactly. All we have heard is the gloom and doom of GW when there is a possibility it will bring great changes to some - for instance, the growing/green regions of the world may increase leading to increased food production, a reduction in desert areas which may provide more living/growing areas for those scratching a living from land that typically hasn't grown more than weeds for as long as we know. There are potentially some positives that will come from a 1 or 2 degree rise in temp. But good news doesn't scare people and without scared people willing to thro money at a problem, no one gets rich by spreading good news Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Curt wrote: So if we do nothing we die. If we change our evil ways we have a 50% chance of dying. Your choice is certain death or a 50% chance of death. There is a flaw in your logic. The flaw is based on your assumption that global warming is a) getting worse b) actually going to cause us harm. Your argument is basically if we do something, we can reduce the risk that it is going to kill us. BUT, you have completely left out another possibility. Global warming (regardless of its cause) may not cause any harm. What we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect on us or the planet. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:32:43 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message Good luck with this and have fun! This is a 5th grade math problem. If you can't stand word math problems, just delete now. If you can open the spreadsheet, you'll see it's a very small list of people who have gotten the correct number. This is not a trick question. This is a real math problem so don't say that a bus has no legs. There are 7 girls in a bus Each girl has 7 backpacks In each backpack, there are 7 big cats For every big cat there are 7 little cats Question: How many legs are there in the bus? The number of legs is the password to unlock the Excel sheet. If you open it, add your name and send it on to see who else can unlock it. My name's on the list, where's yours?? Mine's now on the list, but OpenOffice.org won't allow saving with passwords in Microsoft formats ... kind of defeats the point. By the way, what good does the pictoral solution do once you've determined the correct answer and opened the spreadsheet? In addition, the plural of cats is misspelled: it is cats. Cat's is either the possesive (as in each big cat's little cats) or a contraction of cat is. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: CF Bulbs Burning Out
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:01:01 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Son burns out bulbs fast in his house, the CFs burn out at about the same rate as incandescent bulbs. I checked his line voltage it's too high. His 120VAC measures 136 VAC. Apparently CF bulbs are less tolerant than incandescent bulbs to higher line voltages. Oh my word! That's excessively high. I told him that he could call the utility company they will fix the over voltage problem by moving a tap on his line transformer at no charge. That's the least they should do. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
usually because of the heat from office equipment/lights etc the issue is keeping the heat down. I once worked as a consultant in a Sprint owned 20 story building, during the weekend coding madness the temp would climb to 90F+ We finally said this is crazy how much does it cost to run the building A/C? Was turned off to *save* money, cause who was in the building anyway Besides 100 contractors burning overtime... Manager when away talked to the building owners. Came back and said $57 per day We charged the $114 for each weekend to the pizza/food account. I have also worked in smart building armed with a key flashlight so that we could turn the lights back on via the main electrical panel when the system's motion detectors and clock decide there shouldn't be any more staff present, no just a few consultants grinding away at 10:30 at night... Not enough movement to retrip the sensors... So maybe they stop the a/c and heat with the lamps On Feb 22, 2008, at 10:59 AM, E M wrote: At night, I have a clear view from the back of my house of 4 gov buildings, all with every single light turned on, 24 hours a day. Bet they keep it nice and toasty too. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: CF Bulbs Burning Out
On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: I told him that he could call the utility company they will fix the over voltage problem by moving a tap on his line transformer at no charge. That's the least they should do. Speaking of which it's always good to phone your electrical utility and ask them about any incentives to buy CFLs Sometimes they actually have programs which they fail to properly advertise, if you ask we can tell you otherwise silence... Here on vancouver island they shelved their plans for a another power plant after doing a big (advertised) push for CFL usage and provided coupons, recycling 500W quartz standing lamps etc. That effort decreased power usage, and was way cheaper than say oh the price of doing the environmental study for the generator plant ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission modulator replacement
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:29:08 -0500 Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? I can't get it out of the bore with reasonable force. Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! I'm not ignoring you, I just have no insight. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D question
Craig McCluskey wrote: When I put the manual transmission and 617 in our car, I added the throttle damper by getting a thread-mounting ball from a junk injection pump and threading it into the appropriate threaded hole on the engine side of my injection pump. It's shown in the attached picture in the upper left, about an inch in front of the socket head cap screw. So that thing I circled is the ball stud you put in? -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attachment.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 146569 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080223/d22e5245/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] At least one thing worked today
This has been quite a day -- developed the pictures I took of the Lunar eclipse the other night and discovered that my favorite camera is busted (dragging, now locked, first shutter curtain), so that means a tear-down shortly. All the batteries for my new Pismo are shot, so I have to re-cell at least one -- last time I tried, the circuit board let all the magic smoke out of something and it didn't work (no harm to the cells, I don't think, but I gotta change them around, the guts are different). The new 256MB memory chip won't work in that machine, typical. However, I finally got around to changing the monovalve in the 300D -- it's been reluctant to provide heat, usually only getting decently warm at speed, often gets cold at idle, and with all the ice last week, this was a major pain in the sitting part (I'd rather be in Canada, I can handle snow, the ice stinks!). Well, what do you know, the valve was stuck almost completely closed, can't blow through it at all. New one gives very fast, hot air out the vents! At least tomorrow I can melt the snow we are supposed to get. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
Hey, I still shop at Sears, for tools that is, and would definitely still buy a new mercedes. I believe that the quality issues were an unfortunate but necessary phase in the history of the company. Every car company has had issues at some point. I also feel that the quality issues are getting resolved. Lets also not forget about safety. I would say that is probably pretty difficult to find a car with the degree of safety that you would find in a Mercedes. Dimitri --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:15 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I have a lot of MB documentation) because his 2000 S430 has flakes of paint falling off from the waist line down all around the car. Underneath the flaking paint was corrosion. He had bought the car new, was only serviced at a MB dealer and was never in an accident.MB declined to make any repairs or offer any compensation. He was preparing to file a lawsuit. As far as I can tell the problem is widespread but not present in all vehicles - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] W220 rust I saw something troubling today - a rusty W220 S-Class. It had rust bubbling out of the bottoms of all doors and quite a bit on the trunklid. And Texas license plates. Given that it was on three sides of the car, I'm not inclined to write it off as poorly repaired accident damage. I know the W210 likes to do the W108, but this is new to me (maybe I'm just not paying attention). Anyone else seeing this? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. A new S Class Benz is priced about at what I paid for my house a couple of years ago. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
MARSHALL LIVES! On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets also not forget about safety. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
I still shop at Sears, and I would still buy a new MB. That doesn't mean that I can afford to buy a new MB. Many people who by new Mercedes today cannot afford them as many people who buy houses today also can't afford them. This is a consumer oriented nation. We are all stretched beyond our means. Dimitri --- Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. A new S Class Benz is priced about at what I paid for my house a couple of years ago. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah
i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. You figure. Now there's a concept. RLE/'08 C300 ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sears
Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. Are you available? Boy. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
Ask anyone who came to the IowaQ in the fall -- I have a pegboard on my garage wall dedicated to Craftsman wrenches and sockets. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still shop at Sears -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
I beg to differ. The only folks to whom I have a debt is my mortgage company, and that is only because I didn't have a $75K balance in my checking account when I purchased this house. I have no credit cards. I use a debit card. If there isn't money in the bank, I don't buy it. I have no car loans outstanding, and I have five licensed vehicles, counting the motorcycle. And all five vehicles are road-worthy. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a consumer oriented nation. We are all stretched beyond our means. Dimitri -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust
Cars between the late late 90's, up until recently, didn't interest me much, but before that, and several of the current models look great. There are still a few models on the showroom floor, from the period I don't care for, but as they are replaces, I'm sure they too will be for the quality of the latest offering. I know I wouldn't say no to a new S or CL. :-) Even the C looks pretty good. Still not sure how they get the 6.3 in that car. They must dehydrate the engine, install, and then add water. Ed 300E On 23/02/2008, Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I still shop at Sears, for tools that is, and would definitely still buy a new mercedes. I believe that the quality issues were an unfortunate but necessary phase in the history of the company. Every car company has had issues at some point. I also feel that the quality issues are getting resolved. Lets also not forget about safety. I would say that is probably pretty difficult to find a car with the degree of safety that you would find in a Mercedes. Dimitri --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:15 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I have a lot of MB documentation) because his 2000 S430 has flakes of paint falling off from the waist line down all around the car. Underneath the flaking paint was corrosion. He had bought the car new, was only serviced at a MB dealer and was never in an accident.MB declined to make any repairs or offer any compensation. He was preparing to file a lawsuit. As far as I can tell the problem is widespread but not present in all vehicles - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] W220 rust I saw something troubling today - a rusty W220 S-Class. It had rust bubbling out of the bottoms of all doors and quite a bit on the trunklid. And Texas license plates. Given that it was on three sides of the car, I'm not inclined to write it off as poorly repaired accident damage. I know the W210 likes to do the W108, but this is new to me (maybe I'm just not paying attention). Anyone else seeing this? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sears
Nope. I have a nice management job. Pay sucks but the fringe benefits are beyond a salary. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you available? Boy. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. ( http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah
Lease? Cash? Long term debt? Depreciation to date? Current value vs. price paid? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RLE/'08 C300 ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. ( http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D question
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:24:03 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: When I put the manual transmission and 617 in our car, I added the throttle damper by getting a thread-mounting ball from a junk injection pump and threading it into the appropriate threaded hole on the engine side of my injection pump. It's shown in the attached picture in the upper left, about an inch in front of the socket head cap screw. So that thing I circled is the ball stud you put in? Yes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:18:56 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ. The only folks to whom I have a debt is my mortgage company, and that is only because I didn't have a $75K balance in my checking account when I purchased this house. I have no credit cards. I use a debit card. If there isn't money in the bank, I don't buy it. Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the particulars, but they are noticable. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]
I live in Jefferson, Iowa. I use the debit card at the ATM and for PayPal. It isn't like I am back in NYC or DC! :-) On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:18:56 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the particulars, but they are noticable. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]
Craig McCluskey wrote: Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the particulars, but they are noticable. That's correct, although the networks (Visa, M/C) do voluntarily give some of the protections to debit cards, at least if you process the charge in the manner that runs it though them (signature, not PIN). Another reason to use credit cards, besides warranty and chargebacks, is that credit card companies pay me a couple thousand a year and I'm not eager to give that up. (signup bonuses, 2-5% cash back on purchases, 0% interest loans sitting in high yield savings for a year) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah
if i were out to bust crack and meth heads, i'd get a list of new mercedes buyers On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. You figure. Now there's a concept. RLE/'08 C300 ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. ( http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]
We live in entirely different economic environments. I buy diesel (and, regrettably, gas for Debbie's Buick) on the debit card. I buy groceries on the debit card. I do PayPal for eBay on the debit card. Other than that, I take money out of the ATM and pull out some $20s. About the only reason I can think of to have a credit card is to rent a car. Last time I rented a car was in 1995, when I flew to Indy to give Debbie her engagement ring. Story here: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/debdon.html Call me, if you will, a former/reformed Yuppie who decided that Visa was only Satan trying to screw me over. Personally, I think every credit card VP should be taken out and shot as a war criminal. These are the folks who have fu**ed over our economy while they got rich on corporate bonuses. For me, it is a cash economy. If I can't pay for it today, I ain't buying it. D. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another reason to use credit cards, besides warranty and chargebacks, is that credit card companies pay me a couple thousand a year and I'm not eager to give that up. (signup bonuses, 2-5% cash back on purchases, 0% interest loans sitting in high yield savings for a year) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:25:49 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, it is a cash economy. If I can't pay for it today, I ain't buying it. I didn't say you should use credit cards for the credit they can provide. You can use them as if they were debit cards -- which is really the only way they should be used. I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah
Just have to remember, somebody had to pay those big bucks up front for the new cars, to allow for all that fine German engineering. The stuff that went into making a W123 great, didn't come cheap, and someone paid for it. I don't poo poo the the guys who paid the big bucks up front for new ones, but I do question why more don't see the value in the older ones. Even $5-6000 for a used 560SEL in good shape, with gas at $1.25 a litre, is still an amazing deal in my eyes. It's like getting a Concorde for the price of a Lear. :-) Ed 300E On 23/02/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i were out to bust crack and meth heads, i'd get a list of new mercedes buyers On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. You figure. Now there's a concept. RLE/'08 C300 ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. ( http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598 http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust - now new MB's and $$$
A friend deals with car/train accidents for a major RR. He said I would not believe the number of new and late model MB's [and other high end cars] that suddenly develop engine problems causing them to stop in front of a train - just after the person making the payments loses a job. Yes, many people who buy/lease a new MB can't afford them. BillR -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/23/08 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W220 rust I still shop at Sears, and I would still buy a new MB. That doesn't mean that I can afford to buy a new MB. Many people who by new Mercedes today cannot afford them as many people who buy houses today also can't afford them. This is a consumer oriented nation. We are all stretched beyond our means. Dimitri --- Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. A new S Class Benz is priced about at what I paid for my house a couple of years ago. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust - now new MB's and $$$
My boss is actually the guy who represents the company and who's signs my contract. Today we were talking and he says, Why don't you buy a new Mercedes? Obviously you like the cars. My response (we've just negotiated the next season's contract), ...Then I'd be like you, so deep in debt with your leased car and adjustable rate mortgage that I'd have to agree to just any number you threw at me as I would need the income. Instead I drive these old Mercedes that are paid for and have the luxury of turning down a contract if I don't like the terms. That is why I actually have the advantage which could afford me a new car. From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:52:14 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W220 rust - now new MB's and $$$ A friend deals with car/train accidents for a major RR. He said I would not believe the number of new and late model MB's [and other high end cars] that suddenly develop engine problems causing them to stop in front of a train - just after the person making the payments loses a job. Yes, many people who buy/lease a new MB can't afford them. BillR -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/23/08 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W220 rust I still shop at Sears, and I would still buy a new MB. That doesn't mean that I can afford to buy a new MB. Many people who by new Mercedes today cannot afford them as many people who buy houses today also can't afford them. This is a consumer oriented nation. We are all stretched beyond our means. Dimitri --- Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. A new S Class Benz is priced about at what I paid for my house a couple of years ago. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brand new car
Lease? Cash? Long term debt? Depreciation to date? Current value vs. price paid? Cash. What the hell does it matter, anyway? You sound like all that matters is studying your spread sheets. But seriously, folks. When you live out in the middle of nowhere, a new car doesn't make any sense. Where can you go? Back and forth to the Git n' Go ain't much of a thrill. Or over to watch the loading at the elevator. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
