Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
My Panosonic Plasma has settings Zoom, Hi-full, full, Justify and 4.3. Changing to Justify resolves the problem you are experiencing, at least on my set. John On 4/8/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123TDT with with intermitent severe hesitation problem
How about checking the fuel pickup strainer in the tank? Or check to make sure that the fuel feed hoses under the hood are not switched sround. This used to be fairly common to have happened. If the return line was now the feed line, you'd have a problem getting enough fuel when your tank reached a certain level. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84, '85, '86 190D 2.2 5 sp manual - what changed over the years?
I thought all the 86s were 2.5L. I don't think there's any real difference between a 84 and a 85. I think Cathey has a 2.2 with auto diff (3.0x?) and 5sp. I would have thought that to be the hot setup now that the 55mph speed limit is gone, but IIRC Jim finds it rather doggy. Christopher McCann wrote: Any particular year preferred - '86, I imagine...but I don't know. Thanks, cm Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Correct. We loath Sam Walton and all his company represents after they came into our small town in Wisconsin some years back and totally destroyed a vibrant, active and productive downtown full of locally owned businesses. Some good friends who owned a local pharmacy and were about five years from selling and retiring ended up losing nearly everything they worked for over the years because Wal-Mart ran then into the ground. The Wal-Mart rep came by and told them they could sell their customer list or go out of business once the store opened. Rather than risk losing everything, they sold out and closed. And yes, I do go into their stores from time to time, but I would not buy anything there. Dan --- Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a term I have heard elsewhere, but from it's use here I would suspect it is a reference to the now deceased Sam Walton of Wal-Mart and Sam's Club fame [and money]. BillR __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
LWB250 wrote: Correct. We loath Sam Walton and all his company represents I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. I go there once or twice a year to buy a few 5qt bottles of M1, but that's about it. If Exxon-Mobil wants to sell profitless oil to WalMart, then that's where I'll buy it. My drugs either come factory direct or from the one remaining indy pharmacy in town. My parents still use that pharmacy, even though it makes their copays about $150 a month higher than using the insurance company's chosen mail order service, because they want the pharmacy to be there when they need a prescription TODAY, and they won't use WalMart or CVS. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84, '85, '86 190D 2.2 5 sp manual - what changed over the years?
between a 84 and a 85. I think Cathey has a 2.2 with auto diff (3.0x?) and 5sp. I would have thought that to be the hot setup now that the 55mph speed limit is gone, but IIRC Jim finds it rather doggy. It's an 86, with the 2.5 NA. It has power, but the gearing just seems a bit 'wrong'. You really need to wind it out when driving, it doesn't have the torque you expect in a diesel. It seems like there's no real point to having fifth gear. Probably need to swap diffs, too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
The sad part about all of this is that we had a really active downtown business district with things like shoe stores, a men's store, a grocery, etc., that were all locally owned. If I forgot my checkbook (this was before the days of debit cards) it was no big deal - Pay me next week when you come in. We would pay more for products and services just so we had the convenience and to keep our money at home, so to speak. We were only 30 miles from Milwaukee, so it wasn't like we were some rural backwater town, either. The downtown area is a ghost town now. About the only businesses that survived were ones related to tourism and the butcher (Bernie's Fine Meats.) We still buy stuff from the butcher - he does a heck of a catalog business with the FIBs who come through in the summer and think his place is quaint. Hee. (FIBs are F---ing Illinois bastards, for those not familiar with southeastern Wisconsin terms.) Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Correct. We loath Sam Walton and all his company represents I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. I go there once or twice a year to buy a few 5qt bottles of M1, but that's about it. If Exxon-Mobil wants to sell profitless oil to WalMart, then that's where I'll buy it. My drugs either come factory direct or from the one remaining indy pharmacy in town. My parents still use that pharmacy, even though it makes their copays about $150 a month higher than using the insurance company's chosen mail order service, because they want the pharmacy to be there when they need a prescription TODAY, and they won't use WalMart or CVS. Mitch. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84, '85, '86 190D 2.2 5 sp manual - what changed over the years?
what's an 'auto diff? you mean LSD that is always on? Chris P.S. is there a difference between 4 speed with over-drive and 5 speed? Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought all the 86s were 2.5L. I don't think there's any real difference between a 84 and a 85. I think Cathey has a 2.2 with auto diff (3.0x?) and 5sp. I would have thought that to be the hot setup now that the 55mph speed limit is gone, but IIRC Jim finds it rather doggy. Christopher McCann wrote: Any particular year preferred - '86, I imagine...but I don't know. Thanks, cm Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84, '85, '86 190D 2.2 5 sp manual - what changed over the years?
according to: http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html 2.2's were made 84-86...but I guess it could be wrong. cm Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought all the 86s were 2.5L. I don't think there's any real difference between a 84 and a 85. I think Cathey has a 2.2 with auto diff (3.0x?) and 5sp. I would have thought that to be the hot setup now that the 55mph speed limit is gone, but IIRC Jim finds it rather doggy. Christopher McCann wrote: Any particular year preferred - '86, I imagine...but I don't know. Thanks, cm Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf, B20-getrieben -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Mitch Haley wrote: I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. So what has changed since he relinquished control? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
I tried it one time to pull water out of a 5gallon jerry can.? It did not work.? Elevating the can did not help.? It seems like it should work.? I hope we hear from someone who had success. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:29 am Subject: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels? Anyone know if its required to have pressure on the intake or if I can just run a hose to some 55gal rain barrels I have? The rain barrels are great, fill up in one decent rain on avg, highly recommended for those of us in drought country. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Rich wrote: Not GWB, Kerry. He has not released his records. Oh, Sorry. I thought you were talking about President Bush. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
As I suugested before, this type of pump will not self prime. Run it dry while trying, even a short time and you will ruin the seals. Put the water source higher so it will gravity feed. Pete -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried it one time to pull water out of a 5gallon jerry can.? It did not work.? Elevating the can did not help.? It seems like it should work.? I hope we hear from someone who had success. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Rolf To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:29 am Subject: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels? Anyone know if its required to have pressure on the intake or if I can just run a hose to some 55gal rain barrels I have? The rain barrels are great, fill up in one decent rain on avg, highly recommended for those of us in drought country. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
I am pretty sure my 6.5 HP pressure washer requires some input pressure on the supply side - I don't think it's intended to be able to suck from a water supply - the pump is only intended to boost pressure to a certain level. Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried it one time to pull water out of a 5gallon jerry can.? It did not work.? Elevating the can did not help.? It seems like it should work.? I hope we hear from someone who had success. Jim in Phoenix __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84, '85, '86 190D 2.2 5 sp manual - what changed over the years?
Christopher McCann wrote: what's an 'auto diff? you mean LSD that is always on? The cars with four speed auto tranny had a taller final drive ratio in the diff than the cars that had 5 speed overdrive manual trans. Like maybe an automatic would come with a 3.07:1 and the same car with 5sp would come with a 3.27 (just pulling numbers out of thin air, not necessarily the actual ratios used). AFAIK, all 4sp Benz trans, auto and manual, were 1:1 in top gear. If they call it 4 speed + overdrive, they might be referring to the five speed, but I'm not sure about that. I just checked Fueleconomy.gov, they only show epa ratings for 2.5 diesel and 2.3 gas in 1986. Funny thing is, the revised (lowered) rating for my 1986 16v is 16/24, when the 8v 2.3 with overdrive is quoted at 17/24. I could have sworn that the 16v was a 18/22 car on the original stickers, and the 8v had a higher hwy rating than the 16v. The revised numbers for the 2.5 diesels are 26/31 and 25/34, don't know why the auto gets a better city number. They show 26/30 and 26/35 for the 1985 with 2.2, and 24/29 for the '87 turbo. There's a fellow on Mercedesshop who put a 5sp in a turbo, claims 39mpg at 75mph on long trips. The turbo has a 2.65:1 final drive, so I'd expect it to be a bit slow from a standing start with the 5sp from a 190D. I want to hotrod my '87 turbo engine and hook it up to a 16v 5sp (not overdrive) with the 2.65 diff from the turbo. With the lower 16v first gear and a variable nozzle turbo (from a E320CDI) it should be fairly peppy around town. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FS in the Houston paper
Saw this morning a 300SD with 130k miles, $3950 and an E300D for $9k (??) if anyone is interested I can go get the ads and post the info. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - WalMart
John Robbins wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. So what has changed since he relinquished control? Customer service was Job #1, #2, and #3 under Sam Walton. There's more than five people in a checkout lane? We'll open another checkout immediately. Sam would spend half his time making annonymous store visits, and make sure his policies were in use. Suppliers were valued partners under Sam, now the game is to run them into the ground to save a few $$. They practially killed Huffy, and did quite a bit of damage to Vlassic before Vlassic got wise. Opening a new store? Try to get the local government to seize the land for you, if that doesn't work, try to recall the local officials. Once the new store is open, sell cheap until the competition is gone, then raise prices. I think WalMart is coasting along on the reputation that it earned under Sam. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
In other words, he pump is non-priming. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels? I am pretty sure my 6.5 HP pressure washer requires some input pressure on the supply side - I don't think it's intended to be able to suck from a water supply - the pump is only intended to boost pressure to a certain level. Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried it one time to pull water out of a 5gallon jerry can.? It did not work.? Elevating the can did not help.? It seems like it should work.? I hope we hear from someone who had success. Jim in Phoenix __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Supreme Court was Re: O/T Politics:
Mitch Haley wrote: On the moral question upon which the SCOTUS bases their unconstitutional ruling: . . . My response: I understand you might not like a decision of the Supreme Court, BUT, its decision are absolutely final unless the Constitution were amended or the Court overturned its own decision. I understand that it the point you are trying to make. BUT, to call a decision of the Court unconstitutional demonstrates a failure to understand how it works. A decision of the Supreme Court cannot be unconstitutional because under our system of governance the Court is tasked with authority to interpret the Constitution. This is even more apparent when the Court is interpreting Amendments to the Constitution. A decision of the Court can be wrong (in your opinion) but a decision of the Court cannot be unconstitutional. IF, however, the Constitution were amended and the amendment provided that there would never be a draft, then the decision would be overturned. Mitch also wrote: Just think of all the wrongheaded racial decisions which were overturned by Brown v Board of Education, which in turn was also incredibly wrongheaded. My response: I can't say that I agree with you that Brown v. Board of Education was wrongly decided. BUT, I do agree with you that the Supreme Court does wacky things and also sometimes violates its own core principles. In fact, if you are really interested in textualism and original intent you can read an article that is critical of the conservative justices for violating their own conservative principles. You can find it at: http://www.washburnlaw.edu/wlj/42-2/articles/snook-donald.pdf Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
(FIBs are F---ing Illinois bastards, for those not familiar with southeastern Wisconsin terms.) FIB is also a Northwest Indiana term. Perhaps Southeastern Michigan too. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put the water source higher so it will gravity feed. And use a can with a bottom outlet, don't just stick a siphon hose in from the top. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
One of my friends, a born and bred Republican, is convinced that Rush is a closet liberal out to undermine the Conservative movement. I don't think so, but listening to him a few years ago blunted whatever desires I might have had to become more conservative. Now one of my friends is convinced that if I would just listen hard to Rush I would see the light, as he did... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R wrote: Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao I interpreted his statement to mean that he thinks our trade policies with China have something to do with our country's economy. Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I listen to Rush only for laughs. Guy gives conservatism a bad name. I miss Bill Buckley already. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
I'm going to change oil brands to BG. They now have a 15W40 diesel synthetic and their base stock is purchased from Mobil and is grade V. At less than $20/gallon, I'm sold. Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:57:48 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Correct. We loath Sam Walton and all his company represents I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. I go there once or twice a year to buy a few 5qt bottles of M1, but that's about it. If Exxon-Mobil wants to sell profitless oil to WalMart, then that's where I'll buy it. My drugs either come factory direct or from the one remaining indy pharmacy in town. My parents still use that pharmacy, even though it makes their copays about $150 a month higher than using the insurance company's chosen mail order service, because they want the pharmacy to be there when they need a prescription TODAY, and they won't use WalMart or CVS. Mitch. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation
There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Ed '88 300E On 08/04/2008, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone said on the list a while ago - don't borrow money to invest in a depreciating asset. Let someone else take the depreciation while you're saving the cash. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I used to buy expensive cars like that when I was your age or younger. Its a bad mistake. Wait till they get cheaper and you can pay cash. That is my advice. Hell, for all I know you are paying cash now -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - WalMart
I'm also boycotting WM. The last straw was when they changed their beef supplier late last month. I used to be able to select decent stakes to cook on the grill. I walked in one day, went over to the meat counter and was very disappointed. All of the steaks were thin cut and the price per pound was up. I drove over to Kroger and purchased exactly what I wanted for less per pound than Wal-Mart. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - WalMart John Robbins wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. So what has changed since he relinquished control? Customer service was Job #1, #2, and #3 under Sam Walton. There's more than five people in a checkout lane? We'll open another checkout immediately. Sam would spend half his time making annonymous store visits, and make sure his policies were in use. Suppliers were valued partners under Sam, now the game is to run them into the ground to save a few $$. They practially killed Huffy, and did quite a bit of damage to Vlassic before Vlassic got wise. Opening a new store? Try to get the local government to seize the land for you, if that doesn't work, try to recall the local officials. Once the new store is open, sell cheap until the competition is gone, then raise prices. I think WalMart is coasting along on the reputation that it earned under Sam. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation
E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. I remember reading a column in Road and Track once, maybe by Peter Egan, about the concept of one good car. Having one reliable car under warranty frees you up to own whatever interesting old heap you want, without having to annoy your friends for rides to the parts store every time it breaks down. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
Who is BG? Thanks -Dave Walton On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. They now have a 15W40 diesel synthetic and their base stock is purchased from Mobil and is grade V. At less than $20/gallon, I'm sold. Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:57:48 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Correct. We loath Sam Walton and all his company represents I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. I go there once or twice a year to buy a few 5qt bottles of M1, but that's about it. If Exxon-Mobil wants to sell profitless oil to WalMart, then that's where I'll buy it. My drugs either come factory direct or from the one remaining indy pharmacy in town. My parents still use that pharmacy, even though it makes their copays about $150 a month higher than using the insurance company's chosen mail order service, because they want the pharmacy to be there when they need a prescription TODAY, and they won't use WalMart or CVS. Mitch. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. This BG? http://www.bgprod.com/products/engineoil.html I can't seem to find a full syn diesel oil on their web site. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Don't forget Jimmy Cawtuh, the world's worst president, who destabilized Iran and started the unholy war against civilization. Those who want us out of Iraq forget that Cawtuh started the thing. We may have been in Iraq 5 years, but the war has been going 30+ years in this round, and roughly 1200 years in all. We are still paying the economic prices for Cawtuh's stupidity. At 11:34 AM 4/8/2008, you wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Cut taxes, and spend, spend, spend. How long will this country last being run that way? Where did the fiscally responsible republican myth come from? Wasn't it Slick Willie who established China as a most-favored-nation trading partner and decoupled the standing renewal of that status from human rights audits? If I had to pin blame for the country's current economic straits on any particular person or policy, that would be it. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT My Duramax needs injectors
Makes the $70 or so for MB nozzles look pretty cheap, Aye? make that $140 or so for the parts and labor and it still compares well. And, I never heard of any that DIDN'T make it well over 200k miles. At 12:41 PM 4/8/2008, you wrote: So I have suspected my 02 Duramax needed injectors by the fact that it would smoke at idle, and is not getting the mileage it should. The local claremoron dealer I took it to a while back said no. I asked our sales guys at work who has the best service dept around here. So they tell me and I take the truck there. Yep, needs new injectors. The injectors for this thing are $400 a piece and are really buried down in the head. So the dealer is going to replace all 8 of them for free. It sure was good of the General to extend the warranty on those to 200k. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
I've been using RotellaT, I know its not the cream of the crop but its only 17$ at wally world. -Rolf Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. They now have a 15W40 diesel synthetic and their base stock is purchased from Mobil and is grade V. At less than $20/gallon, I'm sold. Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:57:48 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Correct. We loath Sam Walton and all his company represents I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. I go there once or twice a year to buy a few 5qt bottles of M1, but that's about it. If Exxon-Mobil wants to sell profitless oil to WalMart, then that's where I'll buy it. My drugs either come factory direct or from the one remaining indy pharmacy in town. My parents still use that pharmacy, even though it makes their copays about $150 a month higher than using the insurance company's chosen mail order service, because they want the pharmacy to be there when they need a prescription TODAY, and they won't use WalMart or CVS. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
BG Shear Power® HD bottom of this page http://www.bgprod.com/products/fleet2.html Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:13:37 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. This BG? http://www.bgprod.com/products/engineoil.html I can't seem to find a full syn diesel oil on their web site. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:20 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone said on the list a while ago - don't borrow money to invest in a depreciating asset. Right, or as Andrew Carnegie or one of his contemporaries said, when asked his advice on how to get rich: Buy things that appreciate and lease things that depreciate. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must... resist... temptation
lol, yup, I can see the logic in that. :-) Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. I remember reading a column in Road and Track once, maybe by Peter Egan, about the concept of one good car. Having one reliable car under warranty frees you up to own whatever interesting old heap you want, without having to annoy your friends for rides to the parts store every time it breaks down. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Politics: Obama
John Robbins wrote: IIRC, he's said that if Wright was still the minister of the church he would have left. And here's something claiming that Obama might be more racist than Wright: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25831 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
That's what you get when you vote for Change without definition. Except for those definitions that will be hard to swallow - higher taxes, more government (hard to believe after GWB) more gun control, etc. After obama, J Cawtuh may not look so bad - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Don't forget Jimmy Cawtuh, the world's worst president, who destabilized Iran and started the unholy war against civilization. Those who want us out of Iraq forget that Cawtuh started the thing. We may have been in Iraq 5 years, but the war has been going 30+ years in this round, and roughly 1200 years in all. We are still paying the economic prices for Cawtuh's stupidity. At 11:34 AM 4/8/2008, you wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Cut taxes, and spend, spend, spend. How long will this country last being run that way? Where did the fiscally responsible republican myth come from? Wasn't it Slick Willie who established China as a most-favored-nation trading partner and decoupled the standing renewal of that status from human rights audits? If I had to pin blame for the country's current economic straits on any particular person or policy, that would be it. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
Luther wrote: BG Shear Power® HD bottom of this page http://www.bgprod.com/products/fleet2.html Can't find a whole lot about it, this is the best I can do so far: http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f24/bg-shear-power-hd-synthetic-diesel-oil-good-bad-92943/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Don't forget Hope goes with Change too. Spare change you can hope to count. You can count on it! --R LarryT wrote: That's what you get when you vote for Change without definition. Except for those definitions that will be hard to swallow - higher taxes, more government (hard to believe after GWB) more gun control, etc. After obama, J Cawtuh may not look so bad - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Don't forget Jimmy Cawtuh, the world's worst president, who destabilized Iran and started the unholy war against civilization. Those who want us out of Iraq forget that Cawtuh started the thing. We may have been in Iraq 5 years, but the war has been going 30+ years in this round, and roughly 1200 years in all. We are still paying the economic prices for Cawtuh's stupidity. At 11:34 AM 4/8/2008, you wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Cut taxes, and spend, spend, spend. How long will this country last being run that way? Where did the fiscally responsible republican myth come from? Wasn't it Slick Willie who established China as a most-favored-nation trading partner and decoupled the standing renewal of that status from human rights audits? If I had to pin blame for the country's current economic straits on any particular person or policy, that would be it. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels?
I think most pressure washers advertise how many gallons per minute they put out. In should equal out so you will need some manner of delivering 2 or 3 gallons per minute or whatever the rate is to the intake side. Don't know whether that can be accomplished by gravity if the tank is high enough or if you need some sort of pump in line on the intake side of the pressure washer. I am sort of wondering about something similar. I want to take the pressure washer out to the lake this spring. The water at the lake is pumped out of the lake and up a hill to the cottage. Pressure at the pump is 50# or more but not up at the cottage. I am wondering if the amount of water available will be sufficient for the pressure washer. I have been wondering about whether I might need to have a resevoir of some sort (a barrel) at the cottage end and a second pump to bring the pressure back up to something more usable. Also wonder about running a larger hose from the pump up to the cottage. Volume may be more of an issue than pressure. Time will tell. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:39 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels? I tried it one time to pull water out of a 5gallon jerry can.? It did not work.? Elevating the can did not help.? It seems like it should work.? I hope we hear from someone who had success. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:29 am Subject: [MBZ] OT pressure washing from rain barrels? Anyone know if its required to have pressure on the intake or if I can just run a hose to some 55gal rain barrels I have? The rain barrels are great, fill up in one decent rain on avg, highly recommended for those of us in drought country. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb needs this
yea I do, you should buy it for me OK Don wrote: to haul his family around - He could fill the back with old couches -- http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/592874481.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
Where do you get this? Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. They now have a 15W40 diesel synthetic and their base stock is purchased from Mobil and is grade V. At less than $20/gallon, I'm sold. Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:57:48 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Correct. We loath Sam Walton and all his company represents I think Sam's business model was OK. Successful enough to be a disruptive influence, but not evil. What has been done with the company since he relinquished leadership is something else. I go there once or twice a year to buy a few 5qt bottles of M1, but that's about it. If Exxon-Mobil wants to sell profitless oil to WalMart, then that's where I'll buy it. My drugs either come factory direct or from the one remaining indy pharmacy in town. My parents still use that pharmacy, even though it makes their copays about $150 a month higher than using the insurance company's chosen mail order service, because they want the pharmacy to be there when they need a prescription TODAY, and they won't use WalMart or CVS. Mitch. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
How do you know they buy from M1? Where can you get it? Luther wrote: BG Shear Power® HD bottom of this page http://www.bgprod.com/products/fleet2.html Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:13:37 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. This BG? http://www.bgprod.com/products/engineoil.html I can't seem to find a full syn diesel oil on their web site. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I need Tie rod end for this
Can anyone help me with the model? Pete -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/bmp Size: 610254 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080409/523dca12/attachment.bmp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Supreme Court was Re: O/T Politics:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to call a decision of the Court unconstitutional demonstrates a failure to understand how it works. A decision of the Supreme Court cannot be unconstitutional because under our system of governance the Court is tasked with authority to interpret the Constitution. Are you arguing that the Supremes never make mistakes, or are you playing Humpty Dumpty with the adjective constitutional? If the former, Mitch's point was that such a claim is prima facie untrue. If the latter, fine, but then you'll have to give us a new adjective meaning in accordance with the letter and principle of the Constitution. Otherwise there's no way to say, for example, that the Supreme Court's interpretation of the constitutionality of firearms regulations is consistently wrong. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
I agree - all I see is a synthetic blend along with the same claims that every other oil distributor is making. A blend of synthetic and what If all of the mine's better than theirs claims that all of the oil distributors are making were all true then you could pour some on your breakfast cereal, eat the stuff every morning live 1000 years! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil How do you know they buy from M1? Where can you get it? Luther wrote: BG Shear Power® HD bottom of this page http://www.bgprod.com/products/fleet2.html Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:13:37 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. This BG? http://www.bgprod.com/products/engineoil.html I can't seem to find a full syn diesel oil on their web site. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb needs this
for $4000 that would be a cool van. $20k? I don't see it. Rather have a 2006 LWB hightop Sprinter. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea I do, you should buy it for me OK Don wrote: to haul his family around - He could fill the back with old couches -- http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/592874481.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need Tie rod end for this
What car? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] I need Tie rod end for this Can anyone help me with the model? Pete -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/bmp Size: 610254 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080409/523dca12/attachment.bmp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need Tie rod end for this
The one in the photoshopped picture he attached. It's something we've seen before, I think Savage told us what model it was the last time around. Rusty Cullens wrote: What car? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] I need Tie rod end for this Can anyone help me with the model? Pete -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/bmp Size: 610254 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080409/523dca12/attachment.bmp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
I have contact with the factory rep/distribution rep for this area. Had him do some checking on it. I'll buy it direct from him. Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:42:41 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know they buy from M1? Where can you get it? Luther wrote: BG Shear Power® HD bottom of this page http://www.bgprod.com/products/fleet2.html Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:13:37 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. This BG? http://www.bgprod.com/products/engineoil.html I can't seem to find a full syn diesel oil on their web site. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
They're probably buying Mobil's base stock and then packaging it themselves or adding some of their own additives. Sort of like brand labeling, like detergent or toilet tissue. Dan On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:42:41 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know they buy from M1? Where can you get it? Luther wrote: BG Shear Power® HD bottom of this page http://www.bgprod.com/products/fleet2.html Luther On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:13:37 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: I'm going to change oil brands to BG. This BG? http://www.bgprod.com/products/engineoil.html I can't seem to find a full syn diesel oil on their web site. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
Amsoil does the same thing with their synthetic. On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:44:04 -0500, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're probably buying Mobil's base stock and then packaging it themselves or adding some of their own additives. Sort of like brand labeling, like detergent or toilet tissue. Dan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
Just drove it home... my SD and soon(?) my 300TD will be for sale. Kaleb has first dibs on the SD, but I doubt anyone on this list will want it (I want $1500 for it...). I think there is a slim possibility I can get that for it on eBay. I have to get the wagon put back together before I sell it. I'm not in any hurry on that (ie, it might be 6+ months). The built in Bluetooth hands free works great, and by the end of the week satellite radio will be installed (a condition of the sale). Dealer lost $2100 + Sirius cost... :) E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Mostly my thoughts as well... I've gotten burned out on fixing up old cars to make them nice. I'm anal and picky enough that I want a *nice* car, and I've just lost all time desire to make the older ones as nice as my anal tendencies want them. About 2 years ago I went through some severe stress with school + cars + work + house... I still haven't recovered... I'm still at the point of not being able to consistently do chores around the house, much less make my cars nice. Also, after adding up all the stuff I wanted to do to the wagon I was looking at over $10k of stuff (paint, updated interior body panels, superturbo engine mods, etc). Plus LOTS and LOTS of my time. I've decided that at this point in my life I want more free time... So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil
So, if these guys are buying Mobil 1 base stock, blending it with other oil and you trust Mobil 1 products then why take a chance on this other stuff? Particularly since - to be ASE certified, it has to be 100% compatible with everything else on the market which also means that they all have the same additive package with a few tweaks? In other words, the only real difference is the base stock which brings me back to my original question At least if you run Rotello-T or Dello, you know that you are running 100% Dino oil and you are paying less accordingly. With a blend, are you buying 80% Mobil 1 base stock or is it 60%? Or maybe its 20% Mobil 1 base stock? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] purchasing synthetic diesel oil Amsoil does the same thing with their synthetic. On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:44:04 -0500, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're probably buying Mobil's base stock and then packaging it themselves or adding some of their own additives. Sort of like brand labeling, like detergent or toilet tissue. Dan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
I have owned and handled weapons (guns) since I was 12 or 13. Not one of these impersonal devices has ever even tried to kill me. Re: A gun is just as likely to kill you as protect you. It is impersonal. If there was a real threat, I'd much rather have a gun to defend myself, than not. I sold off most a long time ago, but I still have a couple I will never part with as long as I am breathing. At 09:30 PM 4/8/2008, you wrote: I'm talking about ordinary (lay) people owning guns, not law enforcement. Duh. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: A gun is just as likely to kill you as protect you. It is impersonal. Interesting strawman, but not born out by the statistics. If what you say were true, police unions would be demanding the disarming of their members. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WM
They practically killed Huffy, and did quite a bit of damage to Vlassic before Vlassic got wise. I was disappointed to learn recently that Vlasic, along with Nalley's is now owned by the conglomerate Pinnacale Foods, a very big outfit. I still say Vlasic's pickles are better but maybe it's my imagination. http://www.pinnaclefoodscorp.com/ RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
Well, I can agree with some of what you say here, Andrew. You touch upon one of the biggest downfalls of having a gun. Most certainly, if someone introduces a gun into a hostile situation there is the possibility of it being turned on the gun wielder. I suppose the answer here is for each gun owner to be trained or otherwise experienced in the use of that weapon, and to take it deadly seriously and be aware of the risk of the reversal. I think perhaps also it may be true what they say: If you point a gun at someone, you had better be ready and willing to shoot them. And further, you should always shoot to kill, not to wound. So the foregoing would eliminate the option of simply showing a gun *solely* as a deterrent. Being armed with a gun is not a perfect solution, but it makes sense to me. You may be surprised to learn that I have never owned a gun. I came close to buying one, but I - then and now - struggle with the gravity of it all. This is partly because I know that I need work in the area of anger management. I don't know for 100% sure that I could trust myself in all situations. And the other part of the hesitation deals with the point you raise: The possibility of the gun being taken over by an intruder - be it from my hands or from a closet. Brian On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:46 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, here goes, although I'm not sure how this ties into your yellow line analogy. A gun is just as likely to kill you as protect you. It is impersonal. Having one means that you potentially allow someone else - a family member, friend, or criminal - the means to injure or kill you, even if by accident. For example, someone breaks into your house but isn't armed. You point a gun at him and he wrestles it away and shoots you. Were you really safer because of the gun? Or even if he were armed, if he knows/sees you are armed is he more or less likely to use his weapon? This is not to say there aren't murderers and evildoers out there intent on harming you, but I just don't see a net benefit in gun ownership. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
God, I would love a good TD Dave H... -- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation Just drove it home... my SD and soon(?) my 300TD will be for sale. Kaleb has first dibs on the SD, but I doubt anyone on this list will want it (I want $1500 for it...). I think there is a slim possibility I can get that for it on eBay. I have to get the wagon put back together before I sell it. I'm not in any hurry on that (ie, it might be 6+ months). The built in Bluetooth hands free works great, and by the end of the week satellite radio will be installed (a condition of the sale). Dealer lost $2100 + Sirius cost... :) E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Mostly my thoughts as well... I've gotten burned out on fixing up old cars to make them nice. I'm anal and picky enough that I want a *nice* car, and I've just lost all time desire to make the older ones as nice as my anal tendencies want them. About 2 years ago I went through some severe stress with school + cars + work + house... I still haven't recovered... I'm still at the point of not being able to consistently do chores around the house, much less make my cars nice. Also, after adding up all the stuff I wanted to do to the wagon I was looking at over $10k of stuff (paint, updated interior body panels, superturbo engine mods, etc). Plus LOTS and LOTS of my time. I've decided that at this point in my life I want more free time... So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
Hey John, congrats on the new car. Sometimes it's nice to just wash a car, stand back and admire the shine, and know that's all it needs. :-) Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just drove it home... my SD and soon(?) my 300TD will be for sale. Kaleb has first dibs on the SD, but I doubt anyone on this list will want it (I want $1500 for it...). I think there is a slim possibility I can get that for it on eBay. I have to get the wagon put back together before I sell it. I'm not in any hurry on that (ie, it might be 6+ months). The built in Bluetooth hands free works great, and by the end of the week satellite radio will be installed (a condition of the sale). Dealer lost $2100 + Sirius cost... :) E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Mostly my thoughts as well... I've gotten burned out on fixing up old cars to make them nice. I'm anal and picky enough that I want a *nice* car, and I've just lost all time desire to make the older ones as nice as my anal tendencies want them. About 2 years ago I went through some severe stress with school + cars + work + house... I still haven't recovered... I'm still at the point of not being able to consistently do chores around the house, much less make my cars nice. Also, after adding up all the stuff I wanted to do to the wagon I was looking at over $10k of stuff (paint, updated interior body panels, superturbo engine mods, etc). Plus LOTS and LOTS of my time. I've decided that at this point in my life I want more free time... So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
YOu want a 123 or a 124? My 124 will be for sale in a couple of months At 06:04 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: God, I would love a good TD Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
I've been watching this thread for a while and I'm not so surprised at how polarized the group is about handguns. Those who are opposed are opposed because of moral issues or fear. They believe that we (Americans) should not own guns because guns kill people or they can be stolen from the gun owner and used to kill people. Some also don't understand why someone would want to own a weapon when there is no apparent need for one in this country. They forget to come face to face with a few facts: 1) To date, a modern handgun has never killed a person in this country. People have used handguns to kill people. The handgun was just the weapon of choice and there are many other choices available. Kitchen knives, baseball bats, hammers, etc, etc. Maybe we should ban all of these weapons? 2) To date no-one has been accidentally killed by a modern handgun. Every handgun accident is the direct responsibility of the handgun owner, no exception. If you have kids or grandkids in the house and you have handguns available and a 4 year old finds one, pulls the trigger, it goes bang and kills his sister, it's 100% your fault as the gun owner. 3) Banning handguns will not take them out of the hands of the bad guys. 4) Handgun ownership can be a very rewarding hobby. Those of us who like to go out and shoot have as much fun with our handguns as someone who plays football, rides a bicycle or goes fishing. It's not all a redneck macho thing as some on this list would suggest. And thinking of fishing - we should ban fishing! How dare we present a fish with a tasty morsel of food, only to use a sharp hook to forcibly drag him out of the water by his mouth. Then we slide him on a piece of rope along with the other poor unfortunate fish where he slowly suffocates to death. By the way, I fish too. The above argument is right in line with some of the anti-handgun arguments I've read in these posts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT Well, I can agree with some of what you say here, Andrew. You touch upon one of the biggest downfalls of having a gun. Most certainly, if someone introduces a gun into a hostile situation there is the possibility of it being turned on the gun wielder. I suppose the answer here is for each gun owner to be trained or otherwise experienced in the use of that weapon, and to take it deadly seriously and be aware of the risk of the reversal. I think perhaps also it may be true what they say: If you point a gun at someone, you had better be ready and willing to shoot them. And further, you should always shoot to kill, not to wound. So the foregoing would eliminate the option of simply showing a gun *solely* as a deterrent. Being armed with a gun is not a perfect solution, but it makes sense to me. You may be surprised to learn that I have never owned a gun. I came close to buying one, but I - then and now - struggle with the gravity of it all. This is partly because I know that I need work in the area of anger management. I don't know for 100% sure that I could trust myself in all situations. And the other part of the hesitation deals with the point you raise: The possibility of the gun being taken over by an intruder - be it from my hands or from a closet. Brian On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:46 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, here goes, although I'm not sure how this ties into your yellow line analogy. A gun is just as likely to kill you as protect you. It is impersonal. Having one means that you potentially allow someone else - a family member, friend, or criminal - the means to injure or kill you, even if by accident. For example, someone breaks into your house but isn't armed. You point a gun at him and he wrestles it away and shoots you. Were you really safer because of the gun? Or even if he were armed, if he knows/sees you are armed is he more or less likely to use his weapon? This is not to say there aren't murderers and evildoers out there intent on harming you, but I just don't see a net benefit in gun ownership. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
The last ones I installed in one of my 300E's came out of the package wit the correct gap. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
That's never all it needs.. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation Hey John, congrats on the new car. Sometimes it's nice to just wash a car, stand back and admire the shine, and know that's all it needs. :-) Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just drove it home... my SD and soon(?) my 300TD will be for sale. Kaleb has first dibs on the SD, but I doubt anyone on this list will want it (I want $1500 for it...). I think there is a slim possibility I can get that for it on eBay. I have to get the wagon put back together before I sell it. I'm not in any hurry on that (ie, it might be 6+ months). The built in Bluetooth hands free works great, and by the end of the week satellite radio will be installed (a condition of the sale). Dealer lost $2100 + Sirius cost... :) E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Mostly my thoughts as well... I've gotten burned out on fixing up old cars to make them nice. I'm anal and picky enough that I want a *nice* car, and I've just lost all time desire to make the older ones as nice as my anal tendencies want them. About 2 years ago I went through some severe stress with school + cars + work + house... I still haven't recovered... I'm still at the point of not being able to consistently do chores around the house, much less make my cars nice. Also, after adding up all the stuff I wanted to do to the wagon I was looking at over $10k of stuff (paint, updated interior body panels, superturbo engine mods, etc). Plus LOTS and LOTS of my time. I've decided that at this point in my life I want more free time... So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WM
PInnacle owns the Armour plant now also. Not sure what that means for the long term health of Armour. WM is a killer. they have put hundreds of good companies out of business. Sometimes they set up a relative with a business running under some other name to drive out competition. funny how many new businesses are now located in NW AR. Take Autozone and O'Reilly's for instance. THey have killed off most of the independent auto parts places, and distributors. At 05:34 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: They practically killed Huffy, and did quite a bit of damage to Vlassic before Vlassic got wise. I was disappointed to learn recently that Vlasic, along with Nalley's is now owned by the conglomerate Pinnacale Foods, a very big outfit. I still say Vlasic's pickles are better but maybe it's my imagination. http://www.pinnaclefoodscorp.com/ RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
Tom Hargrave wrote: I've been watching this thread for a while and I'm not so surprised at how polarized the group is about handguns. Those who are opposed are opposed because of moral issues or *^^IRRATIONAL^^* fear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
Thanks for the correction. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT Tom Hargrave wrote: I've been watching this thread for a while and I'm not so surprised at how polarized the group is about handguns. Those who are opposed are opposed because of moral issues or *^^IRRATIONAL^^* fear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
they're supposed to come out of the package gapped properly, but i always check; the 2 sets i went through all came out gapped per spec for the application i was using them on. i wouldn't worry about it too much, though; if they're anything like the Bosch Plats i used, you'll be changing them out soon enough anyway. the reason i went through 2 sets was the first set had one plug that made so much noise on the 6 radio bands i have in the J**p that it was unbearable. the second set worked out to have 2 plugs that sang the same way. sure, i could have gone through the 2 sets to find a working set of 6 that would have been radio-quiet, but for the money they cost i couldn't justify it. i would have happily paid the premium for them if they would have provided any better performance, but as it turns out, plain-ol' Autolites performed perfectly, and silently. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
It's true then,. Dave has gone over to The Dark Side. Soon he'll be wearing tweed sports coats (with jeans and Birkenstock), smoking a pipe, talking with an accent and telling us about the Film he just saw - with subtitles. But better than going to The Far Side. ;-) guess we'll start calling him Darth --- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation God, I would love a good TD Dave H... -- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation Just drove it home... my SD and soon(?) my 300TD will be for sale. Kaleb has first dibs on the SD, but I doubt anyone on this list will want it (I want $1500 for it...). I think there is a slim possibility I can get that for it on eBay. I have to get the wagon put back together before I sell it. I'm not in any hurry on that (ie, it might be 6+ months). The built in Bluetooth hands free works great, and by the end of the week satellite radio will be installed (a condition of the sale). Dealer lost $2100 + Sirius cost... :) E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Mostly my thoughts as well... I've gotten burned out on fixing up old cars to make them nice. I'm anal and picky enough that I want a *nice* car, and I've just lost all time desire to make the older ones as nice as my anal tendencies want them. About 2 years ago I went through some severe stress with school + cars + work + house... I still haven't recovered... I'm still at the point of not being able to consistently do chores around the house, much less make my cars nice. Also, after adding up all the stuff I wanted to do to the wagon I was looking at over $10k of stuff (paint, updated interior body panels, superturbo engine mods, etc). Plus LOTS and LOTS of my time. I've decided that at this point in my life I want more free time... So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Supreme Court was Re: O/T Politics:
Didn't the Supreme Court (The Supremes!) uphold some crazy civil rights legisation that later became obviously flawed? Jim Crow or something? Back in the early 50s IIRC. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Supreme Court was Re: O/T Politics: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to call a decision of the Court unconstitutional demonstrates a failure to understand how it works. A decision of the Supreme Court cannot be unconstitutional because under our system of governance the Court is tasked with authority to interpret the Constitution. Are you arguing that the Supremes never make mistakes, or are you playing Humpty Dumpty with the adjective constitutional? If the former, Mitch's point was that such a claim is prima facie untrue. If the latter, fine, but then you'll have to give us a new adjective meaning in accordance with the letter and principle of the Constitution. Otherwise there's no way to say, for example, that the Supreme Court's interpretation of the constitutionality of firearms regulations is consistently wrong. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
Now I am more confused. The plugs in the engine are W9 The new ones are WR9 resistor plugs http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=197392page=6 one posting on this list says NOT to use platinum plugs on older MBs, but does not define a break point(s) between old and new Others say the R makes no difference while some say it will stress the electronics. Sheesh! I thought this was simple. Guess not much is simple anymore! Anyone got experience with 380 gassers? Patient is 1985 380SL At 05:51 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
1.) Never trust a plug gap out of the box. ALWAYS measure. 2.) There was a TSB from MBUSA some years back about poor idling in 103 engines using platinum plugs, and they recommended against using them. I experienced this one myself, which is why I remember it. Dan --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last ones I installed in one of my 300E's came out of the package wit the correct gap. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
Supposed to be gapped properly for something, but probably not a 380SL, so what is the proper gap supposed to be? If I am going to put em in, I 'd rather check the gap first. At 06:58 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: they're supposed to come out of the package gapped properly, but i always check; the 2 sets i went through all came out gapped per spec for the application i was using them on. i wouldn't worry about it too much, though; if they're anything like the Bosch Plats i used, you'll be changing them out soon enough anyway. the reason i went through 2 sets was the first set had one plug that made so much noise on the 6 radio bands i have in the J**p that it was unbearable. the second set worked out to have 2 plugs that sang the same way. sure, i could have gone through the 2 sets to find a working set of 6 that would have been radio-quiet, but for the money they cost i couldn't justify it. i would have happily paid the premium for them if they would have provided any better performance, but as it turns out, plain-ol' Autolites performed perfectly, and silently. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
When it needs more, that's when you whip out the warranty card. ;-) Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's never all it needs.. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation Hey John, congrats on the new car. Sometimes it's nice to just wash a car, stand back and admire the shine, and know that's all it needs. :-) Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just drove it home... my SD and soon(?) my 300TD will be for sale. Kaleb has first dibs on the SD, but I doubt anyone on this list will want it (I want $1500 for it...). I think there is a slim possibility I can get that for it on eBay. I have to get the wagon put back together before I sell it. I'm not in any hurry on that (ie, it might be 6+ months). The built in Bluetooth hands free works great, and by the end of the week satellite radio will be installed (a condition of the sale). Dealer lost $2100 + Sirius cost... :) E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Mostly my thoughts as well... I've gotten burned out on fixing up old cars to make them nice. I'm anal and picky enough that I want a *nice* car, and I've just lost all time desire to make the older ones as nice as my anal tendencies want them. About 2 years ago I went through some severe stress with school + cars + work + house... I still haven't recovered... I'm still at the point of not being able to consistently do chores around the house, much less make my cars nice. Also, after adding up all the stuff I wanted to do to the wagon I was looking at over $10k of stuff (paint, updated interior body panels, superturbo engine mods, etc). Plus LOTS and LOTS of my time. I've decided that at this point in my life I want more free time... So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
If that TSB was specific to M103 engines, then it is not a considerations since the 380SL is a v-8 At 07:10 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: 1.) Never trust a plug gap out of the box. ALWAYS measure. 2.) There was a TSB from MBUSA some years back about poor idling in 103 engines using platinum plugs, and they recommended against using them. I experienced this one myself, which is why I remember it. Dan --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last ones I installed in one of my 300E's came out of the package wit the correct gap. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
Give me a couple of minutes and I'll pull it out of the TDM. Back in a few Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supposed to be gapped properly for something, but probably not a 380SL, so what is the proper gap supposed to be? If I am going to put em in, I 'd rather check the gap first. At 06:58 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: they're supposed to come out of the package gapped properly, but i always check; the 2 sets i went through all came out gapped per spec for the application i was using them on. i wouldn't worry about it too much, though; if they're anything like the Bosch Plats i used, you'll be changing them out soon enough anyway. the reason i went through 2 sets was the first set had one plug that made so much noise on the 6 radio bands i have in the J**p that it was unbearable. the second set worked out to have 2 plugs that sang the same way. sure, i could have gone through the 2 sets to find a working set of 6 that would have been radio-quiet, but for the money they cost i couldn't justify it. i would have happily paid the premium for them if they would have provided any better performance, but as it turns out, plain-ol' Autolites performed perfectly, and silently. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was disappointed to learn recently that Vlasic, along with Nalley's is now owned by the conglomerate Pinnacale Foods, a very big outfit. I still say Vlasic's pickles are better but maybe it's my imagination. I was wrong, Walmart did kill Vlasic, or at least send it into bankruptcy: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEED9153EF937A35751C0A9679C8B63 http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3046wal-mart_pricing.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
plugs don't usually have that may applications; and don't usually vary much across the vehicles that might use any specific application. i don't know where you're getting your P/Ns from and you didn't specify *which* plat you're using, but did you go to the source? here's what it says on the Bosch web site for the US: Vehicle Part Finder Results Your Vehicle: 1985 MERCEDES-BENZ 380SL V8 3.8 GAS Part NumberDescription 4479PLATINUM+4 Do not gap. Gap is not adjustable. 4307PLATINUM+2 Do not gap. Gap is not adjustable. 4507PLATINUM IR FUSION Do not gap. Gap is not adjustable. 4220PLATINUM GAP=0.032 4020PLATINUM PLUS GAP=0.032 7512SUPER GAP=0.032 7911SUPER PLUS GAP=0.032 cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: Supposed to be gapped properly for something, but probably not a 380SL, so what is the proper gap supposed to be? If I am going to put em in, I 'd rather check the gap first. At 06:58 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: they're supposed to come out of the package gapped properly, but i always check; the 2 sets i went through all came out gapped per spec for the application i was using them on. i wouldn't worry about it too much, though; if they're anything like the Bosch Plats i used, you'll be changing them out soon enough anyway. the reason i went through 2 sets was the first set had one plug that made so much noise on the 6 radio bands i have in the J**p that it was unbearable. the second set worked out to have 2 plugs that sang the same way. sure, i could have gone through the 2 sets to find a working set of 6 that would have been radio-quiet, but for the money they cost i couldn't justify it. i would have happily paid the premium for them if they would have provided any better performance, but as it turns out, plain-ol' Autolites performed perfectly, and silently. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '69 220D on Portland CL (Hey Kevin!)
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/636256174.html I emailed the seller with the million dollar question---does the blower work? He said it works on defrost but not the other settings. Huh? What does that mean in a 114 (as far as what's broken, I mean)? Also, the wheelarches are rusty. That could be bad, unless you want to be really tacky and just cover it up with those chrome crescent things. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
the D isn't for sale? On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:13 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When it needs more, that's when you whip out the warranty card. ;-) Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's never all it needs.. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation Hey John, congrats on the new car. Sometimes it's nice to just wash a car, stand back and admire the shine, and know that's all it needs. :-) Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just drove it home... my SD and soon(?) my 300TD will be for sale. Kaleb has first dibs on the SD, but I doubt anyone on this list will want it (I want $1500 for it...). I think there is a slim possibility I can get that for it on eBay. I have to get the wagon put back together before I sell it. I'm not in any hurry on that (ie, it might be 6+ months). The built in Bluetooth hands free works great, and by the end of the week satellite radio will be installed (a condition of the sale). Dealer lost $2100 + Sirius cost... :) E M wrote: There is something to be said for newer too. Nice clear coat, better interiors, and newer things test to last longer than old things. Sometimes the added money is worth it for those features. And at $26,000 or so, I'd say the car has already taken it's biggest depreciation, while still being a newer car. Sure, it will be cheaper still in a few years, but it will be that much older, and that much closer to having stuff break too. Hey, I like the idea of an older cheap car that you can tinker on too, (look what I drive), but there are a lot of built in extras with a newer car for that additional money too. Mostly my thoughts as well... I've gotten burned out on fixing up old cars to make them nice. I'm anal and picky enough that I want a *nice* car, and I've just lost all time desire to make the older ones as nice as my anal tendencies want them. About 2 years ago I went through some severe stress with school + cars + work + house... I still haven't recovered... I'm still at the point of not being able to consistently do chores around the house, much less make my cars nice. Also, after adding up all the stuff I wanted to do to the wagon I was looking at over $10k of stuff (paint, updated interior body panels, superturbo engine mods, etc). Plus LOTS and LOTS of my time. I've decided that at this point in my life I want more free time... So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
Excuse me, but this is really peeving me off. I've got the TDM here, and try as I might, I can't find the [EMAIL PROTECTED] plug gap specs anywhere. Anyone know what section they would be in? G. Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supposed to be gapped properly for something, but probably not a 380SL, so what is the proper gap supposed to be? If I am going to put em in, I 'd rather check the gap first. At 06:58 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: they're supposed to come out of the package gapped properly, but i always check; the 2 sets i went through all came out gapped per spec for the application i was using them on. i wouldn't worry about it too much, though; if they're anything like the Bosch Plats i used, you'll be changing them out soon enough anyway. the reason i went through 2 sets was the first set had one plug that made so much noise on the 6 radio bands i have in the J**p that it was unbearable. the second set worked out to have 2 plugs that sang the same way. sure, i could have gone through the 2 sets to find a working set of 6 that would have been radio-quiet, but for the money they cost i couldn't justify it. i would have happily paid the premium for them if they would have provided any better performance, but as it turns out, plain-ol' Autolites performed perfectly, and silently. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on Portland CL (Hey Kevin!)
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I emailed the seller with the million dollar question---does the blower work? He said it works on defrost but not the other settings. If it's manual climate control, I'd say the resistor that throttles down the blower is broke. Also, don't these cars have more than one blower motor? Maybe the A/C blower works but not the heater blower? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on Portland CL (Hey Kevin!)
He really went to town when he replaced a brake caliper. hee hee Ed 300E On 09/04/2008, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/636256174.html I emailed the seller with the million dollar question---does the blower work? He said it works on defrost but not the other settings. Huh? What does that mean in a 114 (as far as what's broken, I mean)? Also, the wheelarches are rusty. That could be bad, unless you want to be really tacky and just cover it up with those chrome crescent things. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on Portland CL (Hey Kevin!)
If it's a 114/115 and it has AC, it's probably a Behr add-on. If that's the case and the AC blower works, but not the heater blower, then prepare for an experience that is second to none, save a 124 evaporator swap, maybe (I've never done one of those, but I've seen it done. It wasn't pretty.) Dan (who has scars on his hand from 108 114 heater blower RR) --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: I emailed the seller with the million dollar question---does the blower work? He said it works on defrost but not the other settings. If it's manual climate control, I'd say the resistor that throttles down the blower is broke. Also, don't these cars have more than one blower motor? Maybe the A/C blower works but not the heater blower? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
One of the problems I see with firearms is that it makes people lazy, they don't try and settle arguments with diplomacy but rather just go and get the gnn out and stick it in someones face. After a while people forget how to resolve differences without resorting to violence. Then violence becomes the norm and pretty soon people barricade themselves in their houses, armed to the teeth. Don't you people ever stop, take a step back and have a look at the sort of society you have created for yourselves? In a way I do feel sorry for people who have to live with a tool of death ready to go but until there is a strong mindset to change things, there will the Mexican stand off. Hendrik Tom Hargrave wrote: I've been watching this thread for a while and I'm not so surprised at how polarized the group is about handguns. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
Sunil Hari wrote: the D isn't for sale? Sold it to my brother... if he had someone to ride with him he would already be on his way to pick it up (I'm 3.5 hours out of town ATM). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
Word on the street is that Bosch plugs are crap these days. Also you have to be careful what type of plug you put in a Merc, a lot of the early ones need a _*non*_ resistor type of plug because the resistor is built into the ignition leads and you may well end up with too much resistance. Also those platinum ones are not really designed for earlier motors. Hendrik ernest breakfield wrote: they're supposed to come out of the package gapped properly, but i always check; the 2 sets i went through all came out gapped per spec for the application i was using them on. i wouldn't worry about it too much, though; if they're anything like the Bosch Plats i used, you'll be changing them out soon enough anyway. the reason i went through 2 sets was the first set had one plug that made so much noise on the 6 radio bands i have in the J**p that it was unbearable. the second set worked out to have 2 plugs that sang the same way. sure, i could have gone through the 2 sets to find a working set of 6 that would have been radio-quiet, but for the money they cost i couldn't justify it. i would have happily paid the premium for them if they would have provided any better performance, but as it turns out, plain-ol' Autolites performed perfectly, and silently. cheers! e Loren Faeth wrote: It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
From memory the gap is .8mm, this holds true for the majority of Benzes of that era but check to be sure. Hendrik Loren Faeth wrote: Supposed to be gapped properly for something, but probably not a 380SL, so what is the proper gap supposed to be? If I am going to put em in, I 'd rather check the gap first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
Yes but the design is pretty much the same for engines of that period. Hendrik Loren Faeth wrote: If that TSB was specific to M103 engines, then it is not a considerations since the 380SL is a v-8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question
I have had no luck at all with the Bosch Platinum plugs. I had a set in our 4Runner and took them out after a short while because it just did not run right. I went to the dealer and got the Nippon Denso plugs that were less expensive than the Bosch and it was back to normal as soon as I put them in. Don't know if that means I just got some bad ones or what, but I don't think I will try them again. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Dieselhead asks gasser question It has been decades since I put spark plugs in anything. Subject: 1985 380SL (daughter's car_) I bought Bosch platinum plugs. they look like the gap is in the .030 range, but I didn't check them yet. What is tha gap supposed to be? I guess it is possible to gap these if you are really careful not to chip the porcelain center, or the tiny electrode in the middle. Is that correct? Or should I just put em in and hope for the best? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
Congratulations on the car! Be sure to keep us up to date on how it does over time - someday some of the rest of us might be looking at one! All the advice you got was worth what it cost ;-) Enjoy! So I bought a car that will hopefully not need much work for the near future. For you armchair financial advisers... I just couldn't bring myself to buy a Honda, Toyota, or a FWD VW TDI. I miss being able to read a book, play a video game, go out with friends, etc without feeling guilty/stressed because I still need to paint this room, or get a car running, etc. I will get back into the older car scene in the future, but I just can't right now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
Hendrik Fay wrote: One of the problems I see with firearms is that it makes people lazy, they don't try and settle arguments with diplomacy but rather just go and get the gnn out and stick it in someones face. Either things are a lot different down under, or you watch too much telly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
Debbie really wanted/s your car that she drove. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: the D isn't for sale? Sold it to my brother... if he had someone to ride with him he would already be on his way to pick it up (I'm 3.5 hours out of town ATM). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
Wonko the Sane wrote: Debbie really wanted/s your car that she drove. You'll have to convince my brother to sell it... and you'll also have to duke it out with Sunil. No more 190D deals out there... unless you want my SD? It comes with a spare engine ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation
talk to me ... off-list On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:25 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: Debbie really wanted/s your car that she drove. You'll have to convince my brother to sell it... and you'll also have to duke it out with Sunil. No more 190D deals out there... unless you want my SD? It comes with a spare engine ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to talk about the draft. Your future (life) was never in the balance. Don High School Class of '70 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I even noticed Vietnam until the '72 election cycle. I was born a couple of weeks after JFK died. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Wonko the Sane wrote: If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to talk about the draft. That's like saying that if I've never been sentenced to death, I have no standing to talk about capital punishment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
No. That is saying that if you didn't wonder on high school graduation night how many of your classmates (who didn't have the resources or grades to get into college) would be dead within a year in a jungle half a world away you don't really live it. Some of my peers died in that jungle. Appreciating what it is like to be on death row is much different than being there. I have been there. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to talk about the draft. That's like saying that if I've never been sentenced to death, I have no standing to talk about capital punishment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
Actually, I would argue otherwise. Armed negotiators tend to be very diplomatic. This has been the case with the US and Russia and the US and North Korea. On the other hand, out of control masses with firearms tend to be dangerous as was the case in Kosovo. But out of control masses with clubs hatchets are just as dangerous, as proved by Mogadishu. I see no difference in the two. One was genocide with AK-47's and one was genocide with hatchets clubs. Well, I see one difference - those killed with hatchets and clubs probably died a more painful death. Then there were the Kurds that were gassed in North Iraq - no guns needed there either. Genocide is genocide. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT One of the problems I see with firearms is that it makes people lazy, they don't try and settle arguments with diplomacy but rather just go and get the gnn out and stick it in someones face. After a while people forget how to resolve differences without resorting to violence. Then violence becomes the norm and pretty soon people barricade themselves in their houses, armed to the teeth. Don't you people ever stop, take a step back and have a look at the sort of society you have created for yourselves? In a way I do feel sorry for people who have to live with a tool of death ready to go but until there is a strong mindset to change things, there will the Mexican stand off. Hendrik Tom Hargrave wrote: I've been watching this thread for a while and I'm not so surprised at how polarized the group is about handguns. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 7:10 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man bites dog, was guns Now - Back to Guns OT OT
In a way I do feel sorry for people who have to live with a tool of death ready to go... You mean like Oz until about 10 years ago? How did you all survive to this point? :-) I think it _is_ a shame that I feel I should have one around. (As opposed to having a purely sport item.) But I feel about the same about every other insurance policy I have to have, too. With any luck, I'll never actually need to use any of them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on Portland CL (Hey Kevin!)
blower work? He said it works on defrost but not the other settings. Huh? What does that mean in a 114 (as far as what's broken, I mean)? It's a 115, but that doesn't mean anything other than a four-cylinder engine. The 114/115 have _two_ blowers if you have AC, the same knob runs them both. There's a switch in the linkages under the dash that selects which blower based on the position of the vacuum-driven AC vent flaps. Those switches can go bad, I have had this happen. But more likely it's the heater blower itself that is bad. The resistor pack is shared between the blowers. If he means both (?) blowers only run on high, that could be a speed switch or resistor problem. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
