Re: [MBZ] time for a 5 minute coffee break
Great vid. Saw a few in there I'd like, including that 600 SWB. :-) Thanks, Ed 300E 2008/6/11 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK folks, take a break from discussing Lawyers and such, grab a coffee and take a time trip back to the good old days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SzYxFgnb3E Hendrik who just about fell off his chair at the sight of the finnie/8 hybrid monster ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car importation
There is an exception for vehicles over 25 years old. These vehicles are exempt EPA and DOT standards. Please contact me off-list for specifics. On 6/11/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once upon a time, there was an emmissions exemption for a car of 20 or 25 years age, but I don't think there were safety exemptions if you want to drive them on the road. I don't know if that's still the situation. I think the one car per person per lifetime exemption on emmissions has ended. Christopher McCann wrote: I was under the impression that you could import cars from Germany if they are older than 20 years old. I was then told that is not true by an Indie. I looked online at some govt website and what I got out of it is that you can import cars that were made between 1983 and 1989 (I think). I am not interested in new cars, but older ones 80's and earlier. Does anyone know about what is permitted generally or have a resource for this? Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
I'm betting the ratio will be three Roosa Masters per engine, but I could be wrong, maybe the pump likes the lubricity. Careful there, with names like that you may be showing your ageLOL That could get very pricey in a big hurry. I am also not just running a blend. I have a homemade coolant heated fuel filter setup as well as 2 homemade inline electric fuel heaters. The blend is just a little insurance policy so that i don't accidentally grenade a pump with oil that is too thick. The filter assy. brings the fuel to 140F, the first electric heater is in the loop so it helps heat the entire tank of fuel along with the filter. The second is just before the injector pump and heats to a max of 180F at idle. I still need more heat to run straight WVO well so i am going to insulate and heat the fuel tank and lines as well. I am also looking at using 4-6 inches of NiChrome wire to make individual injector line heaters so as to allow cold starts on WVO. Another benefit is that, contrary to popular belief, WVO actually needs to be around 300F at the injector in order to get good atomization of the fuel and a clean burn. The injector pumps like the fuel to be around 160-180 or so to work correctly. So, logically, the only thing to do is to heat the injector lines. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
the shift linkage? Luther wrote: What fell off of my SDL transmission when was lowered enough to partially clear the tunnel. No clues. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
I say it was the B2 piston. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
I say it was the B2 piston. I say torque converter! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
I say it was the adjustment bolt for an externally adjustable band. Jeff Zedic wrote: I say it was the B2 piston. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The End is Near for Free Veggie Oil
actually it is considered a fuel additive Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Converting a car to run on veggie oil is illegal, violating emissions rules in the Clear Air Act. Vegetable oil has not been registered as a motor oil diesel fuel, said an EPA spokeswoman, so selling the stuff is also an offense, though giving it away does not appear to be regulated at the federal level. ---Never heard that line of thinking before. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 94 C280, W-202 - Electrical Problem
Help Listers, We are having a nagging electrical problem with my wife's 94 C280 that our Indie cannot seem to find. The wiring harness was replaced a couple of years ago. We are constantly blowing fuse # 26 (7.5 amp) in the front fuse box but there are no codes in the computer. When that fuse blows we lose a number of electrical functions that are located in the trunk fuse box including sunroof, windows and seats. The Indie has replaced the relay in that circuit and the control unit (computer) in the trunk at different times but neither replacement has solved the problem. We have not been able to duplicate the surge that causes the 7.5 amp fuse to blow while testing nor can we reduce it to any of the circuits that fail in the rear fuse box when fuse # 26 fails up front. All of the rear fuse box circuits that fail have greater value fuses that the failed # 26 7.5 amp fuse up front. Anyone have any ideas that might help in fault isolation? Thanks. Tom Harruff Naples, FL 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 C280, W-202 - Electrical Problem
I'd say it could be a pinched wire from the new harness that is grounding and causing a short. Sounds like annoying traceback time. You'll have to run the length of the entire harness and check for faults. Tedious. Probably not what you wanted to hear. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
My 2nd guess would be the govener Luther wrote: Not a tool, it was part of the transmission... On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:57:36 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found tools in various places in most of the cars I've bought, hence my guess! On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Well, Tom took the obvious guesses, so - a 3/8 ratchet? I once found a Snap-On door panel tool inside a door. I knew whose it was and when he put it there. When I found it, I thought so that's the cause of my blankety-blank rattle. I was so ticked off about the noise it made that I did not give it back to him. Besides, it had been a couple of months and he must have bought another one by then. Almost 20 years later, I still think of him whenever I use that tool. Mitch. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms ofvoter franchise on
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[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
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[MBZ] Sherriff Joe
Sheriff Joe is at it again!! You all remember Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona , who painted the jail cells pink and made the inmates wear pink prison garb. Well. SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN! Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe! Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million dollars a year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors said okay. The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the street, given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows. The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3 million. Teresa and I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered, and current on all shots, in great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him. Cost us $78. The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for free, just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals. I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at the way he runs the jail system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the work and harvesting by hand. He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for $6 - $8 for the Holidays, and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard from the Prison. Yup, he was reelected last year with 83% of the vote. Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural, that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40 deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the border. He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun' kind of Sheriff. TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY: Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona ) who created the ' Tent City Jail': He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them. He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights Cut off all but 'G' movies. He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects. Then He Started Chain Gangs For Women So He Wouldn't Get Sued For Discrimination. He took away cable TV Until he found out there was A Federal Court Order that Required Cable TV For Jails So He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In The Disney Channel And The Weather Channel. When asked why the weather channel He Replied, So They Will Know How Hot It's Gonna Be While They Are Working ON My Chain Gangs. He Cut Off Coffee Since It Has Zero Nutritional Value. When the inmates complained, he told them, 'This Isn't The Ritz/Carlton.If You Don't Like It, Don't Come Back.' He bought Newt Gingrich's lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place. More On The Arizona Sheriff: With Temperatures Being Even Hotter Than Usual In Phoenix (116 Degrees Just Set A New Record), the Associated Press
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
At 5:26 PM -0500 6/11/08, Luther wrote: What fell off of my SDL transmission when was lowered enough to partially clear the tunnel. No clues. Shifter bushing? -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
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Re: [MBZ] 94 C280, W-202 - Electrical Problem
I'd start by taking 2 of the 3 loads out of the picture. Try it for a few days, that way you can focus in on the bad system. Pete -- Original message -- From: Tom Harruff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help Listers, We are having a nagging electrical problem with my wife's 94 C280 that our Indie cannot seem to find. The wiring harness was replaced a couple of years ago. We are constantly blowing fuse # 26 (7.5 amp) in the front fuse box but there are no codes in the computer. When that fuse blows we lose a number of electrical functions that are located in the trunk fuse box including sunroof, windows and seats. The Indie has replaced the relay in that circuit and the control unit (computer) in the trunk at different times but neither replacement has solved the problem. We have not been able to duplicate the surge that causes the 7.5 amp fuse to blow while testing nor can we reduce it to any of the circuits that fail in the rear fuse box when fuse # 26 fails up front. All of the rear fuse box circuits that fail have greater value fuses that the failed # 26 7.5 amp fuse up front. Anyone have any ideas that might help in fault isolation? Thanks. Tom Harruff Naples, FL 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] super green 123, man I want this car
Awesome! Much nicer than the metalic green, and probably lasts longer too. No sunroof, or I'd be bidding :-( Jaime On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-turbo-diesel-1982-Mercedes-Benz-300d-turbo-diesel-RARE-cactus-green_W0QQitemZ180252471157QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
Steal one of Hursty's Pismos and give it to her. (tongue-in-cheek) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] time for a 5 minute coffee break
Someone drove a 600 up from Atlanta to a GWS concours in Maryland a dozen or so years ago. What a massive piece of gorgeous craft/machinery! The owner told me that the 600 is called the Grand Mercedes because every time you take it into the shop, it's a grand here and a grand there. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:34 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great vid. Saw a few in there I'd like, including that 600 SWB. :-) Thanks, Ed 300E 2008/6/11 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK folks, take a break from discussing Lawyers and such, grab a coffee and take a time trip back to the good old days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SzYxFgnb3E Hendrik who just about fell off his chair at the sight of the finnie/8 hybrid monster ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The End is Near for Free Veggie Oil
Peak shaving water?? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually it is considered a fuel additive Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Converting a car to run on veggie oil is illegal, violating emissions rules in the Clear Air Act. Vegetable oil has not been registered as a motor oil diesel fuel, said an EPA spokeswoman, so selling the stuff is also an offense, though giving it away does not appear to be regulated at the federal level. ---Never heard that line of thinking before. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 C280, W-202 - Electrical Problem
We are constantly blowing fuse # 26 (7.5 amp) in the front fuse box but there are no codes in the computer. When that fuse blows we lose a number of electrical functions that are located in the trunk fuse box including sunroof, windows and seats. The Indie has replaced the relay in that circuit and the control unit (computer) in the trunk at different times but neither replacement has solved the problem. We have not been able to duplicate the surge that causes the 7.5 amp fuse to blow while testing nor can we reduce it to any of the circuits that fail in the rear fuse box when fuse # 26 fails up front. All of the rear fuse box circuits that fail have greater value fuses that the failed # 26 7.5 amp fuse up front. #26 is the entire source of power for the rear box? Temporarily (!!!) replace #26 with a 10A, and replace all the rear fuses with the 7.5A ones. See what blows. It will probably come down to a rubber-glove exam of the power consumer circuits. With any luck the above diagnostic step will at least narrow down which one of many to chase. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] super green 123, man I want this car
I once saw a 450SL C in thistle green. It looked like a moving peridot. Stunning! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome! Much nicer than the metalic green, and probably lasts longer too. No sunroof, or I'd be bidding :-( Jaime On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-turbo-diesel-1982-Mercedes-Benz-300d-turbo-diesel-RARE-cactus-green_W0QQitemZ180252471157QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 C280, W-202 - Electrical Problem
Also, make sure that the contacts in the front fuse box are not oxidized, and that the screw connectors (on back) are making good contact. Problems here could induce heat that weakens the fuse, causing it to fail when it oughtn't. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 C280, W-202 - Electrical Problem
There's gotta be a relay or something involved. (or maybe the 7A carries the trigger current for a relay that carries the current to the rear fusebox) You can't run a subpanel full of 10A fuses off one 7A fuse, not even Jaguar would try to do that. Jim Cathey wrote: We are constantly blowing fuse # 26 (7.5 amp) in the front fuse box but there are no codes in the computer. When that fuse blows we lose a number of electrical functions that are located in the trunk fuse box including sunroof, windows and seats. The Indie has replaced the relay in that circuit and the control unit (computer) in the trunk at different times but neither replacement has solved the problem. We have not been able to duplicate the surge that causes the 7.5 amp fuse to blow while testing nor can we reduce it to any of the circuits that fail in the rear fuse box when fuse # 26 fails up front. All of the rear fuse box circuits that fail have greater value fuses that the failed # 26 7.5 amp fuse up front. #26 is the entire source of power for the rear box? Temporarily (!!!) replace #26 with a 10A, and replace all the rear fuses with the 7.5A ones. See what blows. It will probably come down to a rubber-glove exam of the power consumer circuits. With any luck the above diagnostic step will at least narrow down which one of many to chase. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car importation
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an exception for vehicles over 25 years old. These vehicles are exempt EPA and DOT standards. But your local governments may also have something to say, which complicates matters. This is the case in Oregon, for example. There's no rolling exemption---all vehicles made since 1974 must pass a smog check. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawyers was re: Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
Interesting. I am also a chem major crossover because I hated being cooped up in the lab four afternoons a week and love the great outdoors. I spent summers doing field work in central Norway, SW Yukon Territory, and Nevada during and after my college years, but abandoned field geology when I realized this meant being a nomad and living out of a tent year round. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like rocks and how they got to be where they are. About the extend of my geologic ken clay On 11 Jun 2008, at 18:29, andrew strasfogel wrote: OK - point taken. Now let's move on. Any other geologists out there? On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does help to shine a light on the variety of careers on the list. We learned about Luther's trucking, Kaleb's junkyard and Auto trader, former B52 crewmen, Coasties, Helps us to see that not all benz drivers are over paid snobs or trophy wives clay On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:57, andrew strasfogel wrote: I find these exchanges even more boring than a discussion of the merits of Mobil One On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clay wrote: Partner is somebody with his rear and cash on the line if things go bad. If there is not enough profits, they go hungry in pay, so that staff and associates get paid. In good years they get large cut of profits and must make rain, which is suck large clients into the firm so that there is lots of work for the peon attorney to spend around 2k hours a year billing. Clay, are you a lawyer? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car importation
Alex Chamberlain wrote: But your local governments may also have something to say, which complicates matters. This is the case in Oregon, for example. There's no rolling exemption---all vehicles made since 1974 must pass a smog check. How stringent is that smog check? I wouldn't be surprised if it were 5x or 10x the emissions allowed for a brand new car of that vintage. Seems like a perfect running euro car might pass the test. When they were gray market importing the new cars in the 1980s, the conversion costs were really something unless they could just replace every related part with US certified parts, because meeting current year new car standards is never easy without having a major car company's RD budget. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
Pete, There are Apple stores in most major cities. Don't know where you are. Go to this link for info and locate a store/or shop on line. Admittedly, more bucks than a PC, but a whole lot better in my humble opinion. http://store.apple.com/us?mco=MTE2MjI MAC is the only way! Been using them for almost 20 years. Few if any problems. And sign up for Dot Mac (.mac) ... I have it and worth the $99/year... HTH, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] time for a 5 minute coffee break
Andrew, You should have come out to StarFest2006 in Las Vegas... And you could have seen a 600 on the autocross run But, modern science has made it possible to see it now... Click on this -http://www.kenrockwell.com/mercedes/starfest-2006/ index.htmA Canadian drove it to and from Las Vegas Don't recall his name.. Many good pix that tell what StarFest is all about. Take care, Chuck On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:54 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Someone drove a 600 up from Atlanta to a GWS concours in Maryland a dozen or so years ago. What a massive piece of gorgeous craft/machinery! The owner told me that the 600 is called the Grand Mercedes because every time you take it into the shop, it's a grand here and a grand there. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:34 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce - and yet another soapbox rant
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce 99% of married men live in stage 2. If that is true it is sad, because it is so easy to be happy [well, it does take a team effort.] That is another choice you get to make. It's been a few years since I have done any marriage counseling, but look at it this way: - success leads to good feelings about ourselves and satisfaction [some of the keys to being happy] - happiness is a byproduct of satisfaction, and the most direct way to be happy is by getting others to be happy [I know, I know, but this is the simplified version] - make your goal to make your spouse happy and that leads to you both being happy, with lots of side benefits. At some point the rocks in her head fit the holes in yours so you got together. Excepting some serious defrauding as to the reasons you got together, you can be happy [again.] I expend a bit less energy keeping my darling wife happy as I did when we were dating, and the same attitudes now serve to make marriage what I want it to be. I am truly happy; IMHO almost anyone can be. End of speech [gets down off soapbox]. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
They are the same price everywhere, the Mac store offers a lot of help, and they have classes and stuff. --R Chuck Landenberger wrote: Pete, There are Apple stores in most major cities. Don't know where you are. Go to this link for info and locate a store/or shop on line. Admittedly, more bucks than a PC, but a whole lot better in my humble opinion. http://store.apple.com/us?mco=MTE2MjI MAC is the only way! Been using them for almost 20 years. Few if any problems. And sign up for Dot Mac (.mac) ... I have it and worth the $99/year... HTH, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] time for a 5 minute coffee break
I would imagine at the shop, if you get out of there at any time and it only costs you a grand, you're doing well. :-) I knew a guy who had one, really cool car, one of my all time fave mercedes. Ed 300E 2008/6/12 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Someone drove a 600 up from Atlanta to a GWS concours in Maryland a dozen or so years ago. What a massive piece of gorgeous craft/machinery! The owner told me that the 600 is called the Grand Mercedes because every time you take it into the shop, it's a grand here and a grand there. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:34 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great vid. Saw a few in there I'd like, including that 600 SWB. :-) Thanks, Ed 300E 2008/6/11 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK folks, take a break from discussing Lawyers and such, grab a coffee and take a time trip back to the good old days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SzYxFgnb3E Hendrik who just about fell off his chair at the sight of the finnie/8 hybrid monster ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
OK, Mac genii. How do I transfer the photos from my LG camera phone into my IMac using a CABLE connection? Sprint charges me about $3.00 per photo to transmit them wirelessly. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are the same price everywhere, the Mac store offers a lot of help, and they have classes and stuff. --R Chuck Landenberger wrote: Pete, There are Apple stores in most major cities. Don't know where you are. Go to this link for info and locate a store/or shop on line. Admittedly, more bucks than a PC, but a whole lot better in my humble opinion. http://store.apple.com/us?mco=MTE2MjI MAC is the only way! Been using them for almost 20 years. Few if any problems. And sign up for Dot Mac (.mac) ... I have it and worth the $99/year... HTH, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] time for a 5 minute coffee break
Great photos! Now I need to get a golf bag accessory for my Gullwing. It looks naked without it!! BTW, what is a pintail? It was repeated in the caption for a finny sedan so it is not a typo. Is that the NEW correct translation for Heckflosse? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, You should have come out to StarFest2006 in Las Vegas... And you could have seen a 600 on the autocross run But, modern science has made it possible to see it now... Click on this -http://www.kenrockwell.com/mercedes/starfest-2006/ index.htmA Canadian drove it to and from Las Vegas Don't recall his name.. Many good pix that tell what StarFest is all about. Take care, Chuck On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:54 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Someone drove a 600 up from Atlanta to a GWS concours in Maryland a dozen or so years ago. What a massive piece of gorgeous craft/machinery! The owner told me that the 600 is called the Grand Mercedes because every time you take it into the shop, it's a grand here and a grand there. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:34 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawyers: the last word
Donald, I am not one of those tired of this subject I find the diversity of topics very enlightening and appreciate the experience/knowledge of this wonderful community. Ditto Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D killed, but lots of parts available
During the winter I had a mechanical problem with the engine in our beloved 1979 240D. (I still haven't gotten to the bottom of it or exactly what happened.) In any case the engine won't spin and with the current price of diesel I have little interest in trying to bring it back from the dead. The car has a number of good parts on it. I hate to send the car to the crusher, especially because there is so much good sheet metal on it, but I need to move it off the driveway. If there is anything you want from it, let me know. The automatic transmission and the differential are in top shape, it has all manual controls for A/C of course. A/C hasn't worked in a while and neither does the cruisecontrol. All the glass is intact but either the front or read window has a seal leak. The interior isn't in great shape, but the instrument cluster is good. Car is located 20 miles north of Pittsburgh in Mars, PA if anyone is interested in the whole chassis. ...Kevin 1979 240D rust in pieces ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawyers: the last word
exactly. i don't care much about lawyers, so i don't much read these posts. as i don't read them, they can't much bother me. toleration is a really simple thing and yet it remains so elusive On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald, I am not one of those tired of this subject I find the diversity of topics very enlightening and appreciate the experience/knowledge of this wonderful community. Ditto Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
As the father of a university Graphics Arts Design senior, my suggestion is to ask the school before you buy *anything*. They might require software that requires a minimum configuration (power, RAM, etc.). On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
Hi Bill., ;-) Trust me, given a little time I could crank out 2000 words on the assault on religion in this country - from the strangly interpreted Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; to the presently accepted view of Complete Seperation of church and state which is being intrepreted as a complete divestiture of any mention of God or religion when it comes to govt. I (who knew) have a different viewpoint - that being the framers of the Constitution meant exactly what they wrote! And of course, we must wonder why is it acceptable to teach school children about the muslim culture but teaching the same about Christian culture would bring down the wrath of the ACLU. It used to be college freshmen entered college as Christians and graduated as atheists after their professors' skewed agenda to make them question all values of their parents and religion. Since Christianity is based on *faith* it's not difficult to change someone who may be susceptible to change and make them question that faith because there is no proof when it comes to faith. If God were to appear in the sky one day and say, Look at me - I'm here I'm real, and you'd better be good if you want everlasting life! we would lose all free will - we would have to believe - no more freedom of choice would exist. God expects more of us - and of course, we're capable of more. But I'm sure no one wants another lengthy dissertation from me -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) and even got a soapbox moment regarding religion. Many good issues raised, but I'll let more qualified folk address them. I couldn't help but notice your religion section was conspicuously circumscribed in speaking of what was banned and more than a bit short on why. . BillR, been going to church since I was a kid... and who gets irritated when religion is used as a club. Amazing... On 6/11/08, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch wrote I don't know who/what to blame for the apparent changes in our culture, but the public education system I believe there is a multi-pronged attack on the capitalist system. Education is high on the list as our youth are moved away from basic education and spend more time collecting signatures on petitions, doing environmental awareness programs and field trips generally becoming little activists rather than students. And of course, many of their teachers are young having just completed their education by socialists and marxist professors - and haven't had time to regain their core values if there were any. Also, religion has been steadily changing and some advocate updating things like the Ten Commandments to make them more current. Then there's the problem with the Bible flatly stating being homosexual is morally wrong and of course many, such as the ACLU dislike that little problem. Speaking of the ACLU - formed by a devout marxist who only wish is to tear the country down - they fight for things like burning the flag, calling $hit on canvas Art, defending Nambla (N.American Men-Boy Love Assoc) which openly advocates sex between adults and children and even provides instructions in abduction. They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. Back to the education system - at some point the basics of reading was changed - from phonics which always works perfectly to another systm which teaching reading my memorizing words - so new words are unrecognized and students become poorer and poorer readers the older they get and the more complex their reading became. I witnessed this 1st hand as I went thru grades 6-12 in Va. I had been taught to read in SC using phonics and read well by soundingout unfamiliar words and understanding their meaning by their context. Around 80% of the kids around me in Grades 6-12 were terrible readers - I'm talking about being in High School and reading at a 2nd grade level! And this inability follows them their whole life - making any education a huge chore for them. I still remember them struggling through simple paragraphs when forced to read aloud during class - each word was a challenge - *unless* it was one they recognized. And naturally this handicap followed them into every future activity they might choose. Another attack comes in the huge increase on the dependence on various govt departments for income and/or support of various kinds. The number of people who
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
my current plan is getting a cheap core duo and running a os x hack. i would know more about it how well that would work except dell has been building the computer for over 2 weeks now On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the father of a university Graphics Arts Design senior, my suggestion is to ask the school before you buy *anything*. They might require software that requires a minimum configuration (power, RAM, etc.). On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944)
John noted You even managed to rant about gun ownership Well, ya know, John, I gotta try and touch all the hot buttons! Whait till I get my Blog organized! ;-) Actually, I think I left a lot out! More to come ?? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) Geez Larry, You even managed to rant about gun ownership in your dissertation about our education system thread and even got a soapbox moment regarding religion. Amazing... On 6/11/08, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch wrote I don't know who/what to blame for the apparent changes in our culture, but the public education system I believe there is a multi-pronged attack on the capitalist system. Education is high on the list as our youth are moved away from basic education and spend more time collecting signatures on petitions, doing environmental awareness programs and field trips generally becoming little activists rather than students. And of course, many of their teachers are young having just completed their education by socialists and marxist professors - and haven't had time to regain their core values if there were any. Also, religion has been steadily changing and some advocate updating things like the Ten Commandments to make them more current. Then there's the problem with the Bible flatly stating being homosexual is morally wrong and of course many, such as the ACLU dislike that little problem. Speaking of the ACLU - formed by a devout marxist who only wish is to tear the country down - they fight for things like burning the flag, calling $hit on canvas Art, defending Nambla (N.American Men-Boy Love Assoc) which openly advocates sex between adults and children and even provides instructions in abduction. They fight for all those absurdities but will not get involved in protecting the 2nd Amendment. Back to the education system - at some point the basics of reading was changed - from phonics which always works perfectly to another systm which teaching reading my memorizing words - so new words are unrecognized and students become poorer and poorer readers the older they get and the more complex their reading became. I witnessed this 1st hand as I went thru grades 6-12 in Va. I had been taught to read in SC using phonics and read well by soundingout unfamiliar words and understanding their meaning by their context. Around 80% of the kids around me in Grades 6-12 were terrible readers - I'm talking about being in High School and reading at a 2nd grade level! And this inability follows them their whole life - making any education a huge chore for them. I still remember them struggling through simple paragraphs when forced to read aloud during class - each word was a challenge - *unless* it was one they recognized. And naturally this handicap followed them into every future activity they might choose. Another attack comes in the huge increase on the dependence on various govt departments for income and/or support of various kinds. The number of people who get paid by the govt has exceeded 50% - this creates a continuous dependence on govt for finances. Also there is an effort by the MSM to create an environment where self-dependance is frowned upon. It is very evident in UK already where anything that might be used for defense against criminals are outlawed. People are not expected to defend themselves and by extension should not be self sufficient in other areas of life. Depend on the govt for finances, defense of self and property (dial 911) and place all other needs in the hands of the govt. Finally (probably not - I'm surely forgetting something) there's the environmenal movement. What started as a noble thing has become a thorn in the side of American economics. As more animals, fish, flowers, etc and their habitate become protected the more land we lose to use as we wish. Even homeowners are prevented from developing their property as they want due to govt environmentally driven regulations (think wetlands - which we used to call swamps). This is a huge topic as it potentially puts a weight around the neck of so many capitalist activities forcing a slow-down in our economic system which in-turn reduces our standard of living, and on and on. The environmental movement has even taken their agenda into darkest Africa. Developers wanted to build a power plant so people could have running water in their homes (or huts, whatever) because power is needed to power well pumps. Without
[MBZ] going into R when driving
Is it possible to put the car into reverse when driving forward, or is there a mechanism that prevents that? I am talking about an '85 300SD, specifically. Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawyers: the last word
Rick Knoble wrote: Donald, I am not one of those tired of this subject I find the diversity of topics very enlightening and appreciate the experience/knowledge of this wonderful community. Ditto x3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawyers: the last word
Gary Hurst wrote: toleration is a really simple thing and yet it remains so elusive This is a very amusing comment from you! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
yea, its possible, maybe you should try it and let us know what happens Christopher McCann wrote: Is it possible to put the car into reverse when driving forward, or is there a mechanism that prevents that? I am talking about an '85 300SD, specifically. Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
This is the smart thing to do. The school will tell you what to buy. With PCs it is just a spec list, but with Macs being sole source you can't really shop around for a better deal from a different manufacturer. Wonko the Sane wrote: As the father of a university Graphics Arts Design senior, my suggestion is to ask the school before you buy *anything*. They might require software that requires a minimum configuration (power, RAM, etc.). On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
John Robbins wrote: This is the smart thing to do. The school will tell you what to buy. With PCs it is just a spec list, but with Macs being sole source you can't really shop around for a better deal from a different manufacturer. And it's a case where a 'special deal' thru the university might really be cheaper than retail. In the 1990s I could always do better on my own than buying from the school, but that was with commodity PCs. If retail prices on Macs are relatively fixed, any discount that the school might get would be an improvement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car importation
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: But your local governments may also have something to say, which complicates matters. This is the case in Oregon, for example. There's no rolling exemption---all vehicles made since 1974 must pass a smog check. How stringent is that smog check? I wouldn't be surprised if it were 5x or 10x the emissions allowed for a brand new car of that vintage. Seems like a perfect running euro car might pass the test. Good question, but I'd guess not very stringent. My '80 Euro 280SLC passed just fine. The problem I had registering it in Oregon was with the visual inspection for functioning emissions equipment part of the test, wherein the state employees claimed that since a USA-spec 450SLC of the same year was built with catalytic converters, mine should have them too (and that since it didn't have any, ipso facto I must have removed them myself in violation of Federal and state law). When they were gray market importing the new cars in the 1980s, the conversion costs were really something unless they could just replace every related part with US certified parts, because meeting current year new car standards is never easy without having a major car company's RD budget. Or unless they faked it. Don't know how common it really was, but there were plenty of stories back in the heyday of the gray market about catalytic converters with nothing inside and side-impact beams made of PVC pipe. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
Mitch Haley wrote: And it's a case where a 'special deal' thru the university might really be cheaper than retail. In the 1990s I could always do better on my own than buying from the school, but that was with commodity PCs. If retail prices on Macs are relatively fixed, any discount that the school might get would be an improvement. Excellent point! Also, there is an educational discount from the Apple store, so be sure to get that. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
If it happens, it will be when Anke (dog) decides to turn around in circles in front of the passenger seat (in preparation for laying down) and whacks it with her uber-wagging tail...I'll let you know what happens...give it a few years. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, its possible, maybe you should try it and let us know what happens Christopher McCann wrote: Is it possible to put the car into reverse when driving forward, or is there a mechanism that prevents that? I am talking about an '85 300SD, specifically. Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
Maybe his wife already did? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving yea, its possible, maybe you should try it and let us know what happens Christopher McCann wrote: Is it possible to put the car into reverse when driving forward, or is there a mechanism that prevents that? I am talking about an '85 300SD, specifically. Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D Turbo??
This doesnt look right. They didnt have these in 86, it also doesnt have the proper RF fender. Wonder if its homemade? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-1986-Mercedes-Benz-190d-2-5-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ120271682206QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
If wife had did it, the question probably would have had a few obscenities in it. Actually, I took my two daughters, a friend and his Siberian Husky on a 2,498 mile (round trip) drive...friend and Husky were only there for half the trip, dropped them off in Scranton - anyway, Nanook the Husky was making me very nervous about the shifter and friend piped up that his old Festiva would not go into reverse when going forward. HENCE, the question. (yes, we all fit nicely in the SD). Chris P.S. saw $5.20/gal in PA R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe his wife already did? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving yea, its possible, maybe you should try it and let us know what happens Christopher McCann wrote: Is it possible to put the car into reverse when driving forward, or is there a mechanism that prevents that? I am talking about an '85 300SD, specifically. Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt, '84 300Dt '83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
Andrew, As far as your f. Mea culpa! and I put it back! I'm no MAC genii, but does you camera phone have a receptacle opening for a cable? Or you could go to your local Apple Store and ask one of the real genii there. Try going to http://www.apple.com/ dotmac/ for an answer. I have a standard digital camera and one of the USB cables that reads the gizmo (technical term) that comes out of the camera If you have some teenagers in your neighborhood, you might ask them. Seems they upload their stuff to youtube regularly! Don't like camera phones myself and don't use my phone as such It's a phone, stupid!... Not a directed statement, just to the ethereal world. In fact, I do in many ways classify myself as a Luddite! Take care and be safe, Chuck On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:42 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: OK, Mac genii. How do I transfer the photos from my LG camera phone into my IMac using a CABLE connection? Sprint charges me about $3.00 per photo to transmit them wirelessly. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are the same price everywhere, the Mac store offers a lot of help, and they have classes and stuff. --R Chuck Landenberger wrote: Pete, There are Apple stores in most major cities. Don't know where you are. Go to this link for info and locate a store/or shop on line. Admittedly, more bucks than a PC, but a whole lot better in my humble opinion. http://store.apple.com/us?mco=MTE2MjI MAC is the only way! Been using them for almost 20 years. Few if any problems. And sign up for Dot Mac (.mac) ... I have it and worth the $99/year... HTH, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T MAC Laptop
One more item Apple offers reduced prices to students... Check that out! Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:39 AM, John Robbins wrote: This is the smart thing to do. The school will tell you what to buy. With PCs it is just a spec list, but with Macs being sole source you can't really shop around for a better deal from a different manufacturer. Wonko the Sane wrote: As the father of a university Graphics Arts Design senior, my suggestion is to ask the school before you buy *anything*. They might require software that requires a minimum configuration (power, RAM, etc.). On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all knowledgeable on MAC's, To tell the truth I'm not much good on P.C.'s either. My GrandDaughter is starting school next year. She is majoring in Graphics Art. Must have MAC laptop. Someone please suggest a source and other details? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 C280, W-202 - Electrical Problem
In a message dated 6/12/2008 6:21:56 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are constantly blowing fuse # 26 (7.5 amp) in the front fuse box but there are no codes in the computer. When that fuse blows we lose a number of electrical functions that are located in the trunk fuse box Did you/he verify that 7.5A is the correct size for that fuse slot? Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:16:15 -0500, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The neutral safety switch...all the damn shift linkagea rod bender tumor... Bob R On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:49:13 -0500, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:26 PM -0500 6/11/08, Luther wrote: What fell off of my SDL transmission when was lowered enough to partially clear the tunnel. No clues. Shifter bushing? -MMM- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The End is Near for Free Veggie Oil
Actually, it's not unless you are using a blend. Then you are only allowed to use certain percentages of additive in your fuel. Mike actually it is considered a fuel additive Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Converting a car to run on veggie oil is illegal, violating emissions rules in the Clear Air Act. Vegetable oil has not been registered as a motor oil diesel fuel, said an EPA spokeswoman, so selling the stuff is also an offense, though giving it away does not appear to be regulated at the federal level. ---Never heard that line of thinking before. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D Turbo??
I like this question from a potential bidder: THE VIN SAYS THIS IS A 4 CYL GAS JOB. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
IIRC, neutral isn't that hard to find, but it takes very deliberate movement through the gates to get all the way to reverse. His Festiva probably had a reverse lockout button on the shifter. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
Luther, Flex disk? Chuck On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:16:15 -0500, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The neutral safety switch...all the damn shift linkagea rod bender tumor... Bob R On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:49:13 -0500, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:26 PM -0500 6/11/08, Luther wrote: What fell off of my SDL transmission when was lowered enough to partially clear the tunnel. No clues. Shifter bushing? -MMM- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nanook the Husky was making me very nervous about the shifter and friend piped up that his old Festiva would not go into reverse when going forward. HENCE, the question. (yes, we all fit nicely in the SD). I drove a Festiva with an automatic once (it was a rental). I think It could out-drag a 240D, but not by much. Amazing how the choice of transmission made so much difference with those little stripped-down econoboxes that were so common in the '80s and early '90s. As a rule they were misery on wheels (with an auto) or surprisingly fun (with a manual). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D killed, but lots of parts available
Are both sides of the heater control valve functional (as in working, not broken)? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Kevin Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During the winter I had a mechanical problem with the engine in our beloved 1979 240D. (I still haven't gotten to the bottom of it or exactly what happened.) In any case the engine won't spin and with the current price of diesel I have little interest in trying to bring it back from the dead. T -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
I had a 5 spd manual - almost 50 mpg. Wish I still had it. Chris Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: Nanook the Husky was making me very nervous about the shifter and friend piped up that his old Festiva would not go into reverse when going forward. HENCE, the question. (yes, we all fit nicely in the SD). I drove a Festiva with an automatic once (it was a rental). I think It could out-drag a 240D, but not by much. Amazing how the choice of transmission made so much difference with those little stripped-down econoboxes that were so common in the '80s and early '90s. As a rule they were misery on wheels (with an auto) or surprisingly fun (with a manual). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The End is Near for Free Veggie Oil
In Oklahoma it might be. Other (maybe more civilized?) states have changed their regulations. The Federal Gov't gives an exemption for 400 gallons a quarter, after that you are liable for taxes. Luther On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:19:49 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually it is considered a fuel additive Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Converting a car to run on veggie oil is illegal, violating emissions rules in the Clear Air Act. Vegetable oil has not been registered as a motor oil diesel fuel, said an EPA spokeswoman, so selling the stuff is also an offense, though giving it away does not appear to be regulated at the federal level. ---Never heard that line of thinking before. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
Alex Chamberlain wrote: they were misery on wheels (with an auto) or surprisingly fun (with a manual). The late 1980's 318i, Festiva, and 2.2L Omni/Horizon were all rated by Road Track as low ten second (10.1-10.3) cars from 0-60 with a 5sp. And the 318i was considered a more fun and sporty replacement for the 320i. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
Nope. On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:04:50 -0500, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther, Flex disk? Chuck On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
The ones in my 78 240D are in great confition. Only the 2 behind the instr cluster cracked - probably because they had a slight curve in them and were not secured -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines Finally got around to figuring out why my '83 300D door locks don't work -- one of the rigid plastic lines is cracked where it passes from the body into the driver's door. I'm now wondering if other cracked lines could be causing my intermittent (but increasing) problems with brake boost and engine shut-off. The door circuit is disconnected currently, and plugged. Are these rigid lines prone to failure after a certain age? Are new ones available/should I consider replacing all of them, or just as needed? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
I can understand why a dem would not care for Keyes - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Keyes also lost a statewide race in MD. He has a track record and it ain't impressive. Perhaps it's because of his 1) views and 2) personality. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry wrote: now there's a black man I could support! I suspect the race card will get played pretty heavily before Nov and while o is no choice, A Keyes would have been an exceptional candidate and a wonderful alternative to o! Imagine the confliction of people wanting to call R's racist because they will not vote for O - but unable to use that strategy if A Keyes were the R candidate. The people of Illinois get did get to choose between Obama and Keyes. Unfortunately, they picked Barry. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
I believe the 2 silver boxes are the GPR and the CC Amp. IIRC, the CC Amp is attached to the steering column while the GPR is not. (I hope that's correct) HTHs Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay The clue is in my email From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] but Brunnhilde is a 79 300TD. This appears to be catastrophic failure. Car was starting fine, go out the other morning, no glowee, no startee. Glow plug fuse OK, no voltage to it. Looking through the maint manual it appears it must be the relay. The manual tells me how to check it out, but not which of those boxes below the dash it is. I am assuming it is one of the silver metal boxes, but there are two, and a couple of black plastic ones. If I knew which it was I can go check it without having to take them all out to see. --R LarryT wrote: For those of us who don't have Brunnhilde's measurements committed to memory, what kind of MB might she be? The W123s have their GPR under the dash next to the steering column, others (like the W124) have them on the inner fender in the engine comp -- not sure about S class cars - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow plug relay Brunnhilde is dim, fuse is OK, does not look like volts getting to it though, so suggests glow plug relay? Which of those little boxes is the GP relay (under the dash I am assuming)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - What is a professional owner ?
I wonder how many cars you must first own before you can be considered a professional owner ? ;-) http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/car/717085943.html Ed 300E, amateur owner. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
$20 fuses glow plug exhaust Is it a car part? Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:16:15 -0500, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The neutral safety switch...all the damn shift linkagea rod bender tumor... Bob R On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:49:13 -0500, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:26 PM -0500 6/11/08, Luther wrote: What fell off of my SDL transmission when was lowered enough to partially clear the tunnel. No clues. Shifter bushing? -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
Gotta go with WOnko on this one - many engineers - esp mech and chem Es make more than lawyers. The problem is too many lawyers and not enuf engineers - I worked as a project controls engineer for nearly 40 years - got to the position of Planning, Scheduling and Cost Control Engineering Manager for a multi-billion $$ project and several multi-hundred million $$ projects by OJT - technically had a Engineer attached to my title even tho I didn;t go thru the pain hardships of becoming an engineer. When I became disabled in 12/00 I was making over 100K - more than many lawyers - IIRC the median income of lawyers was around $60K. Too many lawyers, not enough engineers -- take a look in the classifieds sometime - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of You can't BS me on that -- my son is a mechanical engineer. I know what he makes. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about that... its a lot easier for an attorney to make more money than an engineer!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
Unfortunately you have to fight the corporate method of managing census by laying off the older engineers who are making big bucks (relatively speaking) because they've been around for 10+ years and hiring new people after a few months pass - so they don't get in trouble with labor laws. ;-) It happend to me - but fortunatly there was other jobs I could go to and get an increase - others are not as flexible - I had to commute 3 hours from home for a while. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of Engineering can seem quite lucrative for the young buck right out of school, but by the time you've put in 25 years and are making less than a decent MB mechanic or plumber with even less public respect, you might change your mind. About the best positive for engineering at that point is that at least you don't go home dirty... The biggest problems with engineering as a career is that we've spent the last 50 years making the impossible look so easy the public thinks it must really be easy. Gary Thompson Engineering my way into poverty On 6/10/08, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't BS me on that -- my son is a mechanical engineer. I know what he makes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
I've heard a law degree can get an extra 50% salary when a person graduates from an Ivy League college - sound right? I believe this was for new hires just out of school - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of Donald Snook wrote: if a student does well and graduates in the top 10% of any ABA accredited law school, he/she will have a job wherever they would like to practice (with very few exceptions). ...and the other 90% hang out their own shingle and do general practice. There are lawyers in my small town who 'specialize' in family law, estate planning, bankruptcy, criminal defense, and everything else under the sun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
That might be for the big firms. There may be limitations on who they take. For instance, if you graduate with an accounting degree after age 25, forget about even being considered by a major accounting firm as a entry level hire. LarryT wrote: I've heard a law degree can get an extra 50% salary when a person graduates from an Ivy League college - sound right? I believe this was for new hires just out of school - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lust
you wrote That's why i don't test drive cars at the dealers Isn't that how JR became a 320 owner in the 1st place? ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lust That's why i don't test drive cars at the dealers --- On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a ride in John Robbins' 320 CDI this afternoon. Was very difficult to drive back into the 240D and drive home from Des Moines. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
flex disk? Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:16:15 -0500, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The neutral safety switch...all the damn shift linkagea rod bender tumor... Bob R On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:49:13 -0500, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:26 PM -0500 6/11/08, Luther wrote: What fell off of my SDL transmission when was lowered enough to partially clear the tunnel. No clues. Shifter bushing? -MMM- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D Turbo??
I bet its a frankencar, I didnt see a vin on the auction though. Mitch Haley wrote: I like this question from a potential bidder: THE VIN SAYS THIS IS A 4 CYL GAS JOB. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lust
LarryT wrote: you wrote That's why i don't test drive cars at the dealers Isn't that how JR became a 320 owner in the 1st place? Yep! *hangs head in shame* John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
OK, we have now reached the do not care phase Luther wrote: Nope. On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:04:50 -0500, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther, Flex disk? Chuck On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lust
Yep, I can see it now - they cast the bait, then set the hook. and Boom, they reeled you in! ;-) But you did get a 320TDI out of the deal (well, you the bank) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lust LarryT wrote: you wrote That's why i don't test drive cars at the dealers Isn't that how JR became a 320 owner in the 1st place? Yep! *hangs head in shame* John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D Turbo??
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I bet its a frankencar, I didnt see a vin on the auction though. VIN:WDBDA24D7GF200323 Vehicle:1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 190E 2.3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R while moving
...yea, its possible, maybe you should try it and let us know what happens... My guess is, it already did. RLE ** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
Mitch Haley wrote: For instance, if you graduate with an accounting degree after age 25, forget about even being considered by a major accounting firm as a entry level hire. As in, you can't get a job? You have to get experience elsewhere before you have a chance of getting hired? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Larry, when a guy gets maybe 28 percent of the vote in a State that is not immune to electing Rs [Maryland], doesn't that tell you something about his appeal to ALL voters? IIRC he was trounced by Sen. Barbara Mikulski. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:34 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand why a dem would not care for Keyes - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Keyes also lost a statewide race in MD. He has a track record and it ain't impressive. Perhaps it's because of his 1) views and 2) personality. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry wrote: now there's a black man I could support! I suspect the race card will get played pretty heavily before Nov and while o is no choice, A Keyes would have been an exceptional candidate and a wonderful alternative to o! Imagine the confliction of people wanting to call R's racist because they will not vote for O - but unable to use that strategy if A Keyes were the R candidate. The people of Illinois get did get to choose between Obama and Keyes. Unfortunately, they picked Barry. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
I think it was a possum/squirrel/skunk/ gerneric animal carcass that was there for years! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll buy lunch for the first person to guess....
I care! What was the question again please? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, we have now reached the do not care phase Luther wrote: Nope. On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:04:50 -0500, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther, Flex disk? Chuck On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Luther wrote: Bob: NSS/shift linkage.wrong Kaleb:shift linkagewrong Jeff Z:B2 piston...wrong Jim Cathey:torque converterwrong Mitch:band adjustment bolt.wrong Kaleb 2nd try:govenor..wrong All good tries, but none are correct. Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sherriff Joe
I think Sheriff Joe should be our next president! BTW, there was an AnimalPlanet special on the pet/inmate program run by Sheriff Joe - the inmates really made progress (less anger, fighting, etc) when they had a pet to care for. None of the pets were ever neglected by the inmates - quite the opposite - they rec'd outstanding care - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sherriff Joe Sheriff Joe is at it again!! You all remember Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona , who painted the jail cells pink and made the inmates wear pink prison garb. Well. SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN! Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe! Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million dollars a year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors said okay. The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the street, given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows. The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3 million. Teresa and I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered, and current on all shots, in great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him. Cost us $78. The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for free, just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals. I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at the way he runs the jail system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the work and harvesting by hand. He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for $6 - $8 for the Holidays, and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard from the Prison. Yup, he was reelected last year with 83% of the vote. Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural, that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40 deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the border. He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun' kind of Sheriff. TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY: Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona ) who created the ' Tent City Jail': He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them. He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights Cut off all but 'G' movies. He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects. Then He Started Chain Gangs For Women So He Wouldn't Get Sued For Discrimination. He took away cable TV Until he found out there was A Federal Court Order that Required Cable TV For Jails So He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In The Disney Channel And The Weather Channel. When asked why the weather channel He Replied, So They Will Know How Hot It's Gonna Be While They Are Working ON My Chain Gangs. He Cut Off Coffee Since It Has Zero Nutritional Value. When the inmates complained, he told them, 'This Isn't The Ritz/Carlton.If You Don't Like It, Don't Come Back.' He bought Newt Gingrich's lecture series on videotape
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Attorney_%2f_Lawyer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Electrical_Engineer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer_%2f_Developer_%2f_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Mechanical_Engineer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Automotive_Service_Technician_%2f_Mechanic/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Electrician_Journeyman/Salary The lawyers do better than the engineers, and the engineers do better than auto techs and electricians. This is *on average* there are quite a few jobs out there that pay waaay more (or less) than the typical person earns. John LarryT wrote: Gotta go with WOnko on this one - many engineers - esp mech and chem Es make more than lawyers. The problem is too many lawyers and not enuf engineers - I worked as a project controls engineer for nearly 40 years - got to the position of Planning, Scheduling and Cost Control Engineering Manager for a multi-billion $$ project and several multi-hundred million $$ projects by OJT - technically had a Engineer attached to my title even tho I didn;t go thru the pain hardships of becoming an engineer. When I became disabled in 12/00 I was making over 100K - more than many lawyers - IIRC the median income of lawyers was around $60K. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
Hi Luther, The lab will test just about anything - but mostly lubricating fluids such as ATF, rear axle fluid, etc. When you start testing things like fuel and brake fluid it become very costly. If you want to know I can get the price - but don't be surprised if it's over $30 or even $40/ Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution Does your lab test the fuels also or just the engine oil? If so, I have some fuel I can send. Luther On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:51:06 -0500, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, we haven't tested any VO or even BioFuels - which means none of *my* customers have submitted alt. fuels for testing. Perhaps the Lab has tested some? I'll chec I'm just guessing, but I know some people using alt. fuels are trying to save money so they may not think spending money on oil analysis is valid. I'll check with the lab and see if they have anything they can share. Don't know how long it takes or if the alt fuel will get the blame but I would think some of those engines are failing. Perhaps that's being blamed on age or something else? What do ya'll think? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R while moving
I assure you my tranny is in excellent condition, especially after replacing two leaking vacuum elements in the HVAC system that were leaking and causing hard down shifting. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...yea, its possible, maybe you should try it and let us know what happens... My guess is, it already did. RLE ** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
I read that the full set of ASTM tests for BioD is about $1,000. Chris LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luther, The lab will test just about anything - but mostly lubricating fluids such as ATF, rear axle fluid, etc. When you start testing things like fuel and brake fluid it become very costly. If you want to know I can get the price - but don't be surprised if it's over $30 or even $40/ Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Luther To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution Does your lab test the fuels also or just the engine oil? If so, I have some fuel I can send. Luther On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:51:06 -0500, LarryT wrote: AFAIK, we haven't tested any VO or even BioFuels - which means none of *my* customers have submitted alt. fuels for testing. Perhaps the Lab has tested some? I'll chec I'm just guessing, but I know some people using alt. fuels are trying to save money so they may not think spending money on oil analysis is valid. I'll check with the lab and see if they have anything they can share. Don't know how long it takes or if the alt fuel will get the blame but I would think some of those engines are failing. Perhaps that's being blamed on age or something else? What do ya'll think? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
OK youre correct - shows how anecdotal info can be terribly skewed - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Attorney_%2f_Lawyer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Electrical_Engineer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer_%2f_Developer_%2f_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Mechanical_Engineer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Automotive_Service_Technician_%2f_Mechanic/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Electrician_Journeyman/Salary The lawyers do better than the engineers, and the engineers do better than auto techs and electricians. This is *on average* there are quite a few jobs out there that pay waaay more (or less) than the typical person earns. John LarryT wrote: Gotta go with WOnko on this one - many engineers - esp mech and chem Es make more than lawyers. The problem is too many lawyers and not enuf engineers - I worked as a project controls engineer for nearly 40 years - got to the position of Planning, Scheduling and Cost Control Engineering Manager for a multi-billion $$ project and several multi-hundred million $$ projects by OJT - technically had a Engineer attached to my title even tho I didn;t go thru the pain hardships of becoming an engineer. When I became disabled in 12/00 I was making over 100K - more than many lawyers - IIRC the median income of lawyers was around $60K. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
You might get a job in public accounting, just not with the big international accounting firms, and probably not with the major regional firms. It's easier for the nontraditional student to find work outside of public accounting, in corporate or government accounting. Mitch John Robbins wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: For instance, if you graduate with an accounting degree after age 25, forget about even being considered by a major accounting firm as a entry level hire. As in, you can't get a job? You have to get experience elsewhere before you have a chance of getting hired? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] going into R when driving
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: they were misery on wheels (with an auto) or surprisingly fun (with a manual). The late 1980's 318i, Festiva, and 2.2L Omni/Horizon were all rated by Road Track as low ten second (10.1-10.3) cars from 0-60 with a 5sp. And the 318i was considered a more fun and sporty replacement for the 320i. Don't forget the Honda CRX, which out-handled the Lotus Esprit in a mid-'80s R T cover story. Wish they still made those now! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
John Robbins wrote: The lawyers do better than the engineers, and the engineers do better than auto techs and electricians. This is *on average* there are quite a few jobs out there that pay waaay more (or less) than the typical person earns. IMO, Journeyman means you are no longer an apprentice electrician. Check out master plumbers and master electricians, but I bet they come out below attorneys if working for wages. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R while moving
I saw on TV once an auto tranny test, I think it was some factory engineers, revving the car to max then slamming it into a fwd gear, when the tires started smoking they slammed it into reverse. They said it was built to survive the process, but definitely did not look like the process was helping it any. I always thought that the hydraulics would prevent it from going into R from D if you were moving, i.e., that the linkage really only commanded the tranny to go into a gear, but the hydraulics in the system actually did the shifting. (which is why it takes like 2-3 seconds for a Benz tranny to actually drop into gear once you select D?) --R Christopher McCann wrote: I assure you my tranny is in excellent condition, especially after replacing two leaking vacuum elements in the HVAC system that were leaking and causing hard down shifting. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...yea, its possible, maybe you should try it and let us know what happens... My guess is, it already did. RLE ** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
