Re: [MBZ] What a difference new wheel bearings make!
White lithium grease has no business in wheel bearings to begin with because it won't hold up to wheel bearing temperature. The soap base will liquify and the oil will go away! This is why the bearings were loose on both sides and you are lucky that a bearing did not sieze up! The correct wheel bearing grease is any one of several high temperature greases on the market plainly marked high temperature wheel bearing grease. White lithium grease does have its place - in door hinges, hood hinges, sun roof slides, door stops, etc. Other greases will not properly penetrate lubricate these points because they are too thick won't work their way in. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 6/30/08 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] What a difference new wheel bearings make! strange yellow wheel bearing grease that had turned brownThat is the remains of white lithium grease, and why I spend the money for Molykote BR2 grease, and I will NEVER use lithium on anything for any reason. At 09:02 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote: I changed the wheel bearings on the 300D this weekend. I'd thought I had a ball joint out (chuckling on bumps, railroad tracks, and loose steering, and since I had a torn tie rod boot, thought ball joint). Jacked it up to replace it, and checked out the steering and found loose wheel bearings on both sides. McParts had bearings, but no seals, so had to wait a week after tightening up the lock nut 1/2 turn on one side and 3/4 turn on the other side and get a new grease cap. They didn't actually look too bad, but I figured that strange yellow wheel bearing grease that had turned brown on the bearings and the loose seals on the back along with running loose for who knows how long meant new bearings. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What a difference new wheel bearings make!
Outer races are easy. Feel around the inside of the hub, where the inside of the race ends you will find 2 indents. Use a copper or brass punch hammer to walk the the race out from the other end. Then place the new race in the hub, set the old race on top of the new race use it a hammer to drive the new race in. Flip the hub back over use the same brass punch to knock the old race out from on top of the new race. The inside race is replaced the same way. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 6/30/08 10:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] What a difference new wheel bearings make! Did you change the outer races? How? Wheel bearings are sure a whole lot easier than ball joints! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Dou you mean that they found actionable wrongdoing on the part of the president and were prevented from making the charges known or having any filings made on the charges? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:06:28 -0400 Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might not be able to forgive Clinton for his lying, but I certainly don't have any love for the folks who spent $60M+ of tax dollars to discover that two consenting adults were engaged in a sex act. They actually found a whole lot more (like Loral giving the Chinese information on how to make missles stable and accurate), but they were prevented by the Dems to make anything of it. So they went with what they could. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 080630 4.645 4.704 4.822 4.822 4.643 4.571 4.604 4.638 4.817 4.928 080623 4.648 4.711 4.833 4.831 4.648 4.574 4.602 4.652 4.816 4.922 080616 4.692 4.752 4.853 4.874 4.690 4.618 4.656 4.685 4.852 4.969 080609 4.692 4.743 4.834 4.879 4.677 4.615 4.658 4.698 4.874 4.992 080602 4.707 4.759 4.846 4.907 4.687 4.643 4.664 4.680 4.878 5.027 080526 4.723 4.779 4.843 4.913 4.717 4.667 4.673 4.653 4.883 5.027 080519 4.497 4.544 4.610 4.682 4.480 4.463 4.443 4.442 4.610 4.737 080512 4.331 4.377 4.463 4.516 4.310 4.298 4.268 4.276 4.454 4.547 080505 4.149 4.194 4.337 4.345 4.117 4.101 4.084 4.156 4.303 4.382 080428 4.177 4.230 4.346 4.376 4.157 4.133 4.113 4.141 4.312 4.390 080421 4.143 4.207 4.346 4.370 4.126 4.098 4.077 4.111 4.255 4.317 080414 4.059 4.117 4.239 4.266 4.043 4.013 4.000 4.039 4.176 4.234 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350 3.454 3.511 080211 3.280 3.324 3.542 3.412 3.266 3.249 3.239 3.264 3.347 3.393 080204 3.280 3.338 3.566 3.438 3.275 3.243 3.247 3.260 3.325 3.377 080128 3.259 3.327 3.583 3.432 3.258 3.218 3.218 3.236 3.301 3.346 080121 3.270 3.343 3.594 3.472 3.264 3.228 3.222 3.229 3.327 3.360 080114 3.326 3.391 3.621 3.510 3.318 3.288 3.266 3.261 3.420 3.459 080107 3.376 3.436 3.644 3.554 3.366 3.345 3.318 3.276 3.474 3.526 071231 3.345 3.399 3.600 3.519 3.328 3.309 3.293 3.269 3.451 3.491 071224 3.308 3.356 3.584 3.497 3.275 3.277 3.246 3.268 3.411 3.434 071217 3.309 3.359 3.581 3.511 3.273 3.271 3.245 3.319 3.415 3.426 071210 3.325 3.372 3.570 3.514 3.293 3.276 3.265 3.397 3.440 3.455 071203 3.416 3.444 3.595 3.570 3.376 3.385 3.345 3.487 3.532 3.567 071126 3.444 3.453 3.590 3.574 3.389 3.423 3.360 3.527 3.587 3.620 071119 3.410 3.407 3.488 3.524 3.350 3.389 3.324 3.507 3.586 3.624 071112 3.425 3.415 3.484 3.523 3.362 3.403 3.347 3.532 3.608 3.663 071105 3.303 3.290 3.375 3.381 3.244 3.278 3.219 3.411 3.508 3.524 071029 3.157 3.148 3.250 3.251 3.095 3.122 3.062 3.281 3.394 3.406 071022 3.094 3.078 3.182 3.186 3.022 3.067 2.994 3.229 3.323 3.338 071015 3.039 3.023 3.122 3.125 2.970 3.025 2.941 3.169 3.229 3.249 071008 3.035 3.031 3.123 3.137 2.977 3.028 2.946 3.139 3.167 3.197 071001 3.048 3.052 3.117 3.141 3.008 3.061 2.975 3.100 3.090 3.143 070924 3.032 3.037 3.100 3.124 2.993 3.054 2.971 3.028 3.054 3.093 070917 2.964 2.961 3.025 3.054 2.916 2.984 2.903 2.972 2.998
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Craig wrote: It is truly audacious of the Democrats to entice us with their slick-tongued messiah, one who appears out of nowhere and graciously offers to scrape clean and sanitize the same plate of defeat he, his party and their assistants in the media served to America for nearly eight years in the middle of a war. Soon we will see if a majority of the American electorate accepts that offer, or if it rejects it, sending the Democratic Party back to confront the same irrelevance it risked the safety and security of our nation to avoid. Thank you for the links to these stories. We will not convince those on the list who love to hate President Bush, but perhaps some others will see the light. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
For which a savings and loan scandal or fooling around with some trollop? Clinton didn't kill 4000+ Americans in an unwinable foreign war. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:39:56 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kaleb wrote: I guess you forgot about Clinton, those people should have been in prison, not running for president. Thank you, I was hoping someone else was thinking the same thing I was. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
What about the idea of using the Canadian military to police our streets? Thats crazy to the extreme. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:57:30 +0200 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'm out of mind? isn't that our response to terrorism? this and fabricating two never ending wars? i'd say that it is your dubya who is out of his mind, but i suspect he isn't as dumb a he is playing. they now hire rent a cops to guard military bases. if you go to west point, you get grilled by rent a cops. the greed is shameless. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
i would love to like president bush, but he sure isn't helping me out much. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig wrote: It is truly audacious of the Democrats to entice us with their slick-tongued messiah, one who appears out of nowhere and graciously offers to scrape clean and sanitize the same plate of defeat he, his party and their assistants in the media served to America for nearly eight years in the middle of a war. Soon we will see if a majority of the American electorate accepts that offer, or if it rejects it, sending the Democratic Party back to confront the same irrelevance it risked the safety and security of our nation to avoid. Thank you for the links to these stories. We will not convince those on the list who love to hate President Bush, but perhaps some others will see the light. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB, etc.
Peter wrote: I'm amazed, I though Nam was the screwup of the century, guess we moved on to a new one. I cannot think of another situation short of the American Revolution where every single decision was the worst possible alternative, and the worst possible person put in charge. If Barack Obama is elected, you will see something worse. 2000-2008 will be the good old days. Let me just give you a glimpse of what BHO wants to do. 1.End the Bush tax cuts (this will be the SINGLE LARGEST across the board tax increase EVER). 2.Increasing taxes ALWAYS has a negative effect on investing, savings, production, hiring, expansion, and growth. 3.Nancy Pelosi will have a willing President to help her in her plan to tax (up to 70%) your retirement accounts. 4.There will be attempts to Nationalize the Oil companies (there has already been rumblings of this in the House - see Maxine Waters) 5.Pollution taxes - just wait till your old smelly diesel is taxed because it contributes 10 times the pollution of newer cars. 6.Nationalized Health Care, I know Doctors are have already said they moving to Latin America to open up Clinics for Americans who have the money to pay for health care and don't want to be cared under government programs. 7.If nothing is done with Social Security, it will be Bankrupt by 2015. 8.HUGE numbers of Judges will appointed to the Circuit Courts of Appeals (the layer of Courts right below the US Supreme Court). The democrats have been blocking HUNDREDS of Judges. BHO's judges will greatly expand the authority of government. 9.THE largest increase in government spending ever. The Era of big government just got its Messiah. 10.The most liberal senator will become the most liberal president. 11.Crazy liberal whackjobs like George Soros will become members of cabinet. 12.Relations with Isreal will plummet to new lows as BHO recognizes and meets with every political group in the middle east bent on Isreal's destruction. 13.Iran will build its nuclear weapon and as pissed off as Isreal will be, the dialogue between the two will become increasingly bitter. 14.As soon as BHO pulls all of the troops out of Iraq, Iran will move in and take over the Country. Iran will become the new big bad bully of the middle east, with the manpower, money, and infrastructure to destroy anything in the middle east that it wants to. This is just a snapshot. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
I finally figured out what some of you Bush haters on this list reminded me of. My Mother had Alzheimer's disease I suppose. In the last year or so of her life she would angrily approach a family member and accuse them of stealing her teeth, while all the time her teeth were in her mouth. She would not back down and would not listen to facts, in her mind, she knew someone had her teeth and to her that was the end of the story. I thought about leaving the list, then there was an interesting MB post and decided instead to increase my personal banned list from two to six. Harry On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would love to like president bush, but he sure isn't helping me out much. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig wrote: It is truly audacious of the Democrats to entice us with their slick-tongued messiah, one who appears out of nowhere and graciously offers to scrape clean and sanitize the same plate of defeat he, his party and their assistants in the media served to America for nearly eight years in the middle of a war. Soon we will see if a majority of the American electorate accepts that offer, or if it rejects it, sending the Democratic Party back to confront the same irrelevance it risked the safety and security of our nation to avoid. Thank you for the links to these stories. We will not convince those on the list who love to hate President Bush, but perhaps some others will see the light. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
Robert Rentfro wrote: Oh yasorry. It just said that there were rack and pinion issues with some '05 E320s and to check with the dealer. Dealer basically told me to take a hike. You talked with Bud? Maybe he knows about it and can give you a recall number or something... You might want to check out this thread and maybe PM konigstiger. He seems to be someone on the inside. http://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=4080d06d3c85818acbf7809b77894d9bt=145960 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Craig McCluskey wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence, set out to provide the official foundation for what has become not only a thriving business but, more important, an article of faith among millions of Americans. And in releasing a committee report Thursday, he claimed to have accomplished his mission, though he did not use the L-word. http://intelligence.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=298775 The Committee’s report cites several conclusions in which the Administration’s public statements were NOT supported by the intelligence. They include: Ø Statements and implications by the President and Secretary of State suggesting that Iraq and al-Qa’ida had a partnership, or that Iraq had provided al-Qa’ida with weapons training, were not substantiated by the intelligence. Ø Statements by the President and the Vice President indicating that Saddam Hussein was prepared to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorist groups for attacks against the United States were contradicted by available intelligence information. Ø Statements by President Bush and Vice President Cheney regarding the postwar situation in Iraq, in terms of the political, security, and economic, did not reflect the concerns and uncertainties expressed in the intelligence products. Ø Statements by the President and Vice President prior to the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq’s chemical weapons production capability and activities did not reflect the intelligence community’s uncertainties as to whether such production was ongoing. Ø The Secretary of Defense’s statement that the Iraqi government operated underground WMD facilities that were not vulnerable to conventional airstrikes because they were underground and deeply buried was not substantiated by available intelligence information. Ø The Intelligence Community did not confirm that Muhammad Atta met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in 2001 as the Vice President repeatedly claimed. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
No, Donald. I would actually love to like and respect every US President. It has not been something I could accomplish this time, though. Personally I'd propose that rather than continue what has become a national pastime of division and separation toward 'sides' we just wait until the election and allow whichever side to do their 'I told you so' and then try to support our country as much as we can, and continue to work against those parts we see as wrong. I will if you will. Actually, I think I will no mater what. Articles such as the one quoted scare me almost more than Bush. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:27 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB] Craig wrote: It is truly audacious of the Democrats to entice us with their slick-tongued messiah, one who appears out of nowhere and graciously offers to scrape clean and sanitize the same plate of defeat he, his party and their assistants in the media served to America for nearly eight years in the middle of a war. Soon we will see if a majority of the American electorate accepts that offer, or if it rejects it, sending the Democratic Party back to confront the same irrelevance it risked the safety and security of our nation to avoid. Thank you for the links to these stories. We will not convince those on the list who love to hate President Bush, but perhaps some others will see the light. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
My thoughts on the invasion of Iraq are simple. Saddam Hussien was trading oil in Euros. The American dollar is THE currency that oil is traded in, which makes it the WORLDS reserve currency. With Iraq selling oil in Euros, the threat of more OPEC members switching to the Euro and other currencies was immenent. We HAD to take him out or risk economic collapse. Iran has been planning an oil bourse (exchange) for several years now, to trade oil in Euros. Hence, all the sabre rattling against Iran currently. It has nothing to do with WMD or nukes or whatever. The Powers That Be probably figure the American people aren't smart enough to support a war based on this premise, so they came up with the wmd excuse for Iraq and the expanding nuclear program for Iran. No matter what figurehead/cheerleader resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, we will not be leaving Iraq anytime soon. Money makes the world go 'round. A speach by Ron Paul. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul303.html A Wiki on Irans Oil Bourse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse A Wiki on Petrodollar warfare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_Warfare YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
on 6/30/08 23:06, Bill R at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might not be able to forgive Clinton for his lying, but I certainly don't have any love for the folks who spent $60M+ of tax dollars to discover that two consenting adults were engaged in a sex act. Speaking for the rest of the world, we're still in shock over that as well. How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the way it is. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Rick Knoble wrote: We HAD to take him out or risk economic collapse. I don't think that worked out too well. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
on 7/1/08 9:32, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the idea of using the Canadian military to police our streets? Thats crazy to the extreme. LOL well its not only crazy but the numbers wouldn't work too well I suspect. We have a very small military and we're already stretched trying to keep Afghanistan from turning into Iraq Two. However we are on a recruitment/expansion campaign to increase our strength so give us a call back in five years or so Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB, etc.
7. If nothing is done with Social Security, it will be Bankrupt by 2015. This is pork, what has GW done on this? NOTHING but crow about how the Democrats can't fix it. 9. THE largest increase in government spending ever. The Era of big government just got its Messiah. If this is true isn't #7 fixed by it? I don't think its true though, if you add the Iraq war funding GW's era has to have the single biggest spending increase ever not sanctioned by an act of war. 11. Crazy liberal whackjobs like George Soros will become members of cabinet. As opposed to crazy conservative and religious whackjobs? 12. Relations with Isreal will plummet to new lows as BHO recognizes and meets with every political group in the middle east bent on Isreal's destruction. Rather than clubbing them and stealing their oil? 13. Iran will build its nuclear weapon and as pissed off as Isreal will be, the dialogue between the two will become increasingly bitter. So we'd be better off with GW's secret plans to bomb Iran or pay Israel to do it? Or should we just keep funding terrorist groups who just happen to operate in Iran? GW does that too, and maintains that there doesn't need to be any oversight of his clandestine operations. Obviously he's such a great guy he'd never do anything wrong. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Mac wrote: How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the way it is. I don't agree that the war in Iraq was needless. I do agree that it is ugly. ALL war is ugly. ALL war is awful. ALL loss of life in a war is a catastrophic loss to the world. I don't have the guts to tell the people of Iraq, that the MILLIONS of people of that Saddam slaughtered didn't mean anything. I don't have the stomach to say that the loss of 4,000 american lives was too high a cost to save Millions of Iraqis from the worst dictator since Stalin and Pol Pot. Saddam was hung by his own people, for crimes he committed against the Iraqis. I am proud that American soldiers put their lives in danger and gave the ultimate sacrifice to help Iraq try to choose their own course. I am VERY proud that the people of Iraq got to vote for their leaders for the first time in decades. I am not trying to be rude, either. However I don't know what country you are from, but I will say this. All of these commentators from other countries who say that America is the now one of the most hated countries in the world, and all of the protestors in other countries chanting death to America ought to stop and think about what would happen if the US complied with their wishes for complete self determination. What would happen if the US stopped the BILLIONS of dollars in foreign aid, what would happen if the US decided it would stop forgiving interest payments on outstanding loans. What would happen if the US told these countries that beg for help from the US, that we are tired of being vilified in your press and then also asked for help. These countries that scream insults about the US and chant death to America are like a teenager who screams I hate you, Dad! Why don't you just leave me alone. Then the child goes up to their room which is provided by dad and plays their Ipod paid for by dad and then drives the car bought by dad and just wants to be left alone. The USA will never do this, but I sure wish we would agree to their demands and just leave these other countries alone and leave them to their devices. You don't want our help, okay. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am interrupting the constant political talk (which I, of course increased with my own rants) to discuss cars. I will likely be selling my old Buick and will have $2000 to spend to on a car. I had no bites on my previous offer of $1500. But, I am looking for a 123 diesel or a 124 gasser with working a/c and decent paint (at least paint that only needs some elbow grease to make it decent). High miles don't bother me, but sweating in a suit does. Anyone have such a beast? I might be interested in other makes of cars, too. If it meets the above requirements. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Welding on the 190D
Gee look, MB content! The metal around the rear jack points on my 190D looked terrible. So grinder in hand I explored what was what. In fact what I thought was metal hanging out from the body was actually rubber undercoating, the metal was mostly gone for about 1 all around the jack point. The jackpoint was still solid, its made of stern stuff, its just the sheetmetal that was gone. So I ground out all the rust as best I could, this included going about 5 under the car... Then I welded a plate over the jack point and up under the door. I don't have the correct jack to use that jack point anyway, I've got an underlift scissors jack from a BMW, so the jackpoint does me no good. Its also just a good opening for water. The idiot who owned the car before me had a plug in it, thats gone... Newer 190s didn't have jack points like this did they? Or did they just have clever plugs? Then I drove the car up on ramps and made another plate for underneith. I'd never done any welding over my head (well, face) before. Not great fun... Got that all welded up, ground the welds, welded some more. Slapped some paint on it which actually made my lousy welds a lot less noticeable. Once the paint dries I'll shoot some undercoat on. The undercoat has texture and will really hide my awful welding nicely. Its also flat black and will match the car better than the glossy paint I used. Alas unlike Jim Cathy I had no microwaves to cut up for raw material. I used brand new stock. Considering my welding skils its probably for the best. Also my fire extinguisher was not needed. Several little fires broke out but a swat with my glove put them out. Now for the other side. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
Curt Raymond wrote: The idiot who owned the car before me had a plug in it, thats gone... Newer 190s didn't have jack points like this did they? Or did they just have clever plugs? My '87 300TD came with them... the looked like factory plugs to me. My '92 300D has the larger plastic trim, and there is just a little cover in the trim to pop open. I'll have to double check, but I think even my CDI has the same style jack points. Now for the other side. Congrats on one side finished! :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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[MBZ] I guess you forgot about Clinton
Other than purely moral issues, just what is it that WJC is supposedly guilty of. It was the republicans who pursued the Whitewater fiasco at a cost to the taxpayer of $80M. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
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Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
Mitch Haley wrote: What's a SBC hydraulic unit? Sensatronic Brake Control It is a brake by wire system with hydraulic back up. Basically, it does things like sense panic stops and applies preliminary brake pressure to improve stopping distance. Not sure of all the things it does, but that is the biggest. My personal favorite feature is the hill hold. If I'm stopped at a traffic light where letting off the brake would normally cause me to roll backwards, SBC automatically applies the brake, and I don't have to push the brake pedal. Yes, I'm that lazy. ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stop dumping on Bush
How can we, when he's created an imperial presidency and apparently is unfazed by the Constitution or the law. He apparently believes himself to be the moral adjutant. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I guess you forgot about Clinton
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than purely moral issues, just what is it that WJC is supposedly guilty of. He is a war criminal for his complicity in the deliberate NATO bombing of civilian targets in Bosnia in 1999. Before anyone thinks I'm partisan, I think the same sort of behavior is reason #1 why Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, and Dubya are crooks, as well. And don't even get me started on Henry Kissinger. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
Hmmm. Guess I need to get started on the TE, both front jack points are rusted. I noticed that on the 300D there was some rust down the rocker, too. Not enough to cause trouble yet, but worth checking on both my current W124s. I like these cars, I want to keep them a while yet.! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
Alas unlike Jim Cathy I had no microwaves to cut up for raw material. Hey Jim - While you are cutting up old microwaves I am wondering if you might have access to a 13.5 glass turntable with the three smaller tabs on the bottom. I broke mine and Maytag wants $63 to replace it. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis
Gents, Among the other problems I'm having with climate control in my '87 300D, it now looks like the pushbutton unit is acting up. No ground at pin 10 in the Klima relay socket when the PBU is set to max cool. Am I right in thinking that this means the PBU is at fault for sure? I know the Klima shorts pin 5 to 7 to turn on the compressor when 10 goes to ground and the other sensors (coolant temp, etc.) are all in spec, but are there any circumstances under which the PBU wouldn't give the Klima the turn on the compressor signal despite the button selection? Does the PBU get any sensor signals directly (e.g. evaporator temp) besides the interior and exterior temperatures (which should be overridden by setting max cool on the temp dial)? This particular PBU has already been resoldered once by Mr. Cathey, so if it is Tango Uniform again I am about ready to junk it and get one from Rusty... godforsaken analog electronics! Why can't we replace all this stuff with a PIC? (Heck, if I thought I could make it work without months of effort and jeroboams of Mountain Dew, I'd run the climate control from the joystick ports of an Atari 800 in the back seat with a program written in 6502 assembly.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop dumping on Bush
maybe between the evangelical and talk radio crowd, he simply has enough unconditional support to do this. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can we, when he's created an imperial presidency and apparently is unfazed by the Constitution or the law. He apparently believes himself to be the moral adjutant. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis
You need to check interior and exterior temp sensors, engine coolant temp sensor, evaporator temp sensor, and heat exchanger temp sensor, as they all can go out of range and shut off the AC. Also, a bad aux pump pulling too much juice will shut off the compressor as well (may kill the fan, too). The diagram is in the CD -- you can check all these with an ohmmeter from the harness. check the wires on the coolant temp sensor (up by the upper radiator hose nipple) -- a broken wire will tell the pushbutton unit to shut off the compressor as the coolant temp is -60C. A shorted sensor will also shut off the compressor from overheat. Don't knock analog equipment -- it's actually easier to troubleshoot. And last, check the wires through the pressure switch on the reciever/dryer. A bad connection or pulled off plug will give you no ground at the KLIMA just as well as a bad unit. Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 1, 2008 1:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis Gents, Among the other problems I'm having with climate control in my '87 300D, it now looks like the pushbutton unit is acting up. No ground at pin 10 in the Klima relay socket when the PBU is set to max cool. Am I right in thinking that this means the PBU is at fault for sure? I know the Klima shorts pin 5 to 7 to turn on the compressor when 10 goes to ground and the other sensors (coolant temp, etc.) are all in spec, but are there any circumstances under which the PBU wouldn't give the Klima the turn on the compressor signal despite the button selection? Does the PBU get any sensor signals directly (e.g. evaporator temp) besides the interior and exterior temperatures (which should be overridden by setting max cool on the temp dial)? This particular PBU has already been resoldered once by Mr. Cathey, so if it is Tango Uniform again I am about ready to junk it and get one from Rusty... godforsaken analog electronics! Why can't we replace all this stuff with a PIC? (Heck, if I thought I could make it work without months of effort and jeroboams of Mountain Dew, I'd run the climate control from the joystick ports of an Atari 800 in the back seat with a program written in 6502 assembly.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop dumping on Bush
Perhaps you can find a forum appropriate for the political nonsense. When I receive mail from this list, it does not say [POLITICS], [BUSH IS TO BLAME FOR MY LOT IN LIFE], [CLOSED MINDS], or anything along those lines. To be honest, I don't really read this list any more. There isn't enough car traffic to make it worth my while. Kaleb, I think it's time to put an end to allowing politics on this list. I think even Van Cleef can put together sounder arguments than a lot of the ones that got me to start ignoring this list. On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 12:44:31PM -0400, Glenn Brown wrote: How can we, when he's created an imperial presidency and apparently is unfazed by the Constitution or the law. He apparently believes himself to be the moral adjutant. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop dumping on Bush
i blame kleb too On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you can find a forum appropriate for the political nonsense. When I receive mail from this list, it does not say [POLITICS], [BUSH IS TO BLAME FOR MY LOT IN LIFE], [CLOSED MINDS], or anything along those lines. To be honest, I don't really read this list any more. There isn't enough car traffic to make it worth my while. Kaleb, I think it's time to put an end to allowing politics on this list. I think even Van Cleef can put together sounder arguments than a lot of the ones that got me to start ignoring this list. On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 12:44:31PM -0400, Glenn Brown wrote: How can we, when he's created an imperial presidency and apparently is unfazed by the Constitution or the law. He apparently believes himself to be the moral adjutant. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
What if the US didn't needlessly dispose of legitimately elected leaders we don't like and then install dicators the people hate. We MADE Saddam. What if the US didn't selfishly work to steal the resources of the middle east and then dish out a pittance in foreign aid? What if the US didn't round up in terrorism raids who just happened to be standing on the wrong corner at the wrong time, then fly them halfway around the world to a base that we claim is US territory but where the US laws don't apply. What if the US didn't then hold those same poor bastards for YEARS with no evidence to get information. How could somebody snatched from their village 5 years ago (or longer) possibly have any useful information now? What if the US kept is dammed nose out of everybody else's business for awhile? What if the US dropped its foolish pride that we obviously know better than the whole rest of the world? How is it possible that the rest of the world is so dumb that they survived this long without us? -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:54:22 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mac wrote: How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the way it is. I don't agree that the war in Iraq was needless. I do agree that it is ugly. ALL war is ugly. ALL war is awful. ALL loss of life in a war is a catastrophic loss to the world. I don't have the guts to tell the people of Iraq, that the MILLIONS of people of that Saddam slaughtered didn't mean anything. I don't have the stomach to say that the loss of 4,000 american lives was too high a cost to save Millions of Iraqis from the worst dictator since Stalin and Pol Pot. Saddam was hung by his own people, for crimes he committed against the Iraqis. I am proud that American soldiers put their lives in danger and gave the ultimate sacrifice to help Iraq try to choose their own course. I am VERY proud that the people of Iraq got to vote for their leaders for the first time in decades. I am not trying to be rude, either. However I don't know what country you are from, but I will say this. All of these commentators from other countries who say that America is the now one of the most hated countries in the world, and all of the protestors in other countries chanting death to America ought to stop and think about what would happen if the US complied with their wishes for complete self determination. What would happen if the US stopped the BILLIONS of dollars in foreign aid, what would happen if the US decided it would stop forgiving interest payments on outstanding loans. What would happen if the US told these countries that beg for help from the US, that we are tired of being vilified in your press and then also asked for help. These countries that scream insults about the US and chant death to America are like a teenager who screams I hate you, Dad! Why don't you just leave me alone. Then the child goes up to their room which is provided by dad and plays their Ipod paid for by dad and then drives the car bought by dad and just wants to be left alone. The USA will never do this, but I sure wish we would agree to their demands and just leave these other countries alone and leave them to their devices. You don't want our help, okay. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
I wish I hadn't waited on mine. If I'd done this last year there would have been alot less work. Of course I could only barely weld last year... Some would say I can still only barely weld. -Curt --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:11 PM Hmmm. Guess I need to get started on the TE, both front jack points are rusted. I noticed that on the 300D there was some rust down the rocker, too. Not enough to cause trouble yet, but worth checking on both my current W124s. I like these cars, I want to keep them a while yet.! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
Wife's work associate still has this for sale.she says she'll now take $2500. Anyone interested? (I hope I do the pic attachment right.even though the pic is kinda lousy) Her description: 1985 mercedes 380 sl, 104, miles, interior seats needs cloth inserts, dash board with crack, AC and stereo work, has security system, carpet headliner ok, grey, needs work on oil pan gasket and fuel injection. Beautiful car, exterior wonderful. Let me know if any of yous is interested and I can go look at it.maybe take some better pics. Bob R -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: carpic.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1612588 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080630/a2ad938b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
AMEN-I have an impeach Bush and Cheney bumper sticker on my 78 240D. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB Our Senate is guilty of gross negligence for not impeaching GWB and Cheney years ago. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As if all this after the fact stuff isn't sufficient proof of the culpability of the main person responsible for much of the current mess our country faces, as the historians are already writing this moron's epitaph and it doesn't look good. For those of you who may not be aware, I really wonder how this individual could be defined as guilty in the SEC investigation of the Harken Energy fiasco without ever facing any penalty. And this before so many knowing folks voted for him in 2000. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The 260E might be a good car for Don Snook-no mention of AC in ad. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] We interrupt this broadcast http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/car/736324790.html http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/car/694523042.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Didn't somebody want one of these?
Didn't somebody want a Dakota. This one is cheap, just needs a transmission. Drive it for a few years, then put a MB diesel in it. http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/739190540.html Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
I wish I hadn't waited on mine. If I'd done this last year there would have been alot less work. Of course I could only barely weld last year... Some would say I can still only barely weld. -Curt From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm. Guess I need to get started on the TE, both front jack points are rusted. I noticed that on the 300D there was some rust down the rocker, too. Not enough to cause trouble yet, but worth checking on both my current W124s. I like these cars, I want to keep them a while yet.! Peter The only welders available locally are Lincoln wire feed welders. Has anyone had a good experience with one of these? Model number and price appreciated. The cost of freight makes buying locally more attractive; at least for the time being. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
I just stopped by my Indy, Autohaus Stuttgart, to see if he has any cars. He works on Mercedes and also usually has 7-10 cars for sale. I walked into the shop and he was working a newer Smart. It was the fourtwo. He was cussing up a storm he hated the car. The car only had 11,000 miles and the a/c needed a recharge. The engine was crammed into the rear and looks like it would be impossible to work on. the Mercedes dealer said they did not do warranty work on the car. So, the customer brought it to my Indy. The engine was leaking oil also. Not that I ever wanted one of these, but, this confirmed my suspicion that I don't want one. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
BS I'd call MBUSA on that one Donald Snook wrote: the Mercedes dealer said they did not do warranty work on the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
Damn!! And I used to want a redun so bad! A blue one woulda been OK, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still Wife's work associate still has this for sale.she says she'll now take $2500. Anyone interested? (I hope I do the pic attachment right.even though the pic is kinda lousy) Her description: 1985 mercedes 380 sl, 104, miles, interior seats needs cloth inserts, dash board with crack, AC and stereo work, has security system, carpet headliner ok, grey, needs work on oil pan gasket and fuel injection. Beautiful car, exterior wonderful. Let me know if any of yous is interested and I can go look at it.maybe take some better pics. Bob R -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: carpic.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1612588 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080630/a2a d938b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. Wilton Strickland wrote: Damn!! And I used to want a redun so bad! A blue one woulda been OK, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still Wife's work associate still has this for sale.she says she'll now take $2500. Anyone interested? (I hope I do the pic attachment right.even though the pic is kinda lousy) Her description: 1985 mercedes 380 sl, 104, miles, interior seats needs cloth inserts, dash board with crack, AC and stereo work, has security system, carpet headliner ok, grey, needs work on oil pan gasket and fuel injection. Beautiful car, exterior wonderful. Let me know if any of yous is interested and I can go look at it.maybe take some better pics. Bob R -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: carpic.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1612588 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080630/a2a d938b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
As a matter of fact... I'm using a Lincoln Handy Mig. I bought mine from Sears because somebody had given me a gift card. They shipped for free. Its on their site right now for $299 but I'd suggest you sign up on the site and they'll shoot you an email when they have a sale which seems like weekly... http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_0092058P?vName=Tools The chipping hammer/brush is not a good brush or hammer and the mask is worthless but otherwise the welder is real nice. I'm still learning how to match my heat (there are only 4 heat settings (wait, there are 2 switches with 2 positions, thats actually 6 settings yeah?)) and wire speed (infinately controllable). Its easier on a bigger welder where there are more heat settings. Still for the price its pretty good. -Curt --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 3:41 PM I wish I hadn't waited on mine. If I'd done this last year there would have been alot less work. Of course I could only barely weld last year... Some would say I can still only barely weld. -Curt From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm. Guess I need to get started on the TE, both front jack points are rusted. I noticed that on the 300D there was some rust down the rocker, too. Not enough to cause trouble yet, but worth checking on both my current W124s. I like these cars, I want to keep them a while yet.! Peter The only welders available locally are Lincoln wire feed welders. Has anyone had a good experience with one of these? Model number and price appreciated. The cost of freight makes buying locally more attractive; at least for the time being. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
That would be a hint, although it's not impossible that the vehicle was abused by someone. Very heavy for the size, so you don't get squashed like a bug if someone backs into you in the parking lot, too. I'd personally rather ride the bus -- if I'm gonna be squeezed in like a sardine, at least let someone else drive! Peter -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 1, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not I just stopped by my Indy, Autohaus Stuttgart, to see if he has any cars. He works on Mercedes and also usually has 7-10 cars for sale. I walked into the shop and he was working a newer Smart. It was the fourtwo. He was cussing up a storm he hated the car. The car only had 11,000 miles and the a/c needed a recharge. The engine was crammed into the rear and looks like it would be impossible to work on. the Mercedes dealer said they did not do warranty work on the car. So, the customer brought it to my Indy. The engine was leaking oil also. Not that I ever wanted one of these, but, this confirmed my suspicion that I don't want one. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 260E might be a good car for Don Snook-no mention of AC in ad. If they don't mention it, it probably just needs a charge. Alex Chamberlain pair of A/C-less 124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BS I'd call MBUSA on that one Donald Snook wrote: the Mercedes dealer said they did not do warranty work on the car. Huh? There are more gray-market Smarts than MBNA-imported ones in the USA right now, although that'll change soon. The dealer can perfectly well refuse to work on the former (and good thing they're honest about it!). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
That is useful information. There are one or two here in Jacksonville I see on occasion, but I have wondered about service. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:46 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not I just stopped by my Indy, Autohaus Stuttgart, to see if he has any cars. He works on Mercedes and also usually has 7-10 cars for sale. I walked into the shop and he was working a newer Smart. It was the fourtwo. He was cussing up a storm he hated the car. The car only had 11,000 miles and the a/c needed a recharge. The engine was crammed into the rear and looks like it would be impossible to work on. the Mercedes dealer said they did not do warranty work on the car. So, the customer brought it to my Indy. The engine was leaking oil also. Not that I ever wanted one of these, but, this confirmed my suspicion that I don't want one. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We interrupt this broadcast
Yes a 124 with non working air-imagine that. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. SLOW LEAK Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] We interrupt this broadcast On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 260E might be a good car for Don Snook-no mention of AC in ad. If they don't mention it, it probably just needs a charge. Alex Chamberlain pair of A/C-less 124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Curt wrote: What if the US didn't selfishly work to steal the resources of the middle east and then dish out a pittance in foreign aid? I wish we would do that. Let's go over and appropriate all the oil in the middle east. We could have $1 gas again. I would go back to driving my Ford Expedition. Hell, I might drive an old 73 Cadillac like my brother does. Do you think Obama would do this? I would vote for him if he would agree to take over the middle east and all of its oil. We wouldn't need income taxes, we could generate as much money as Saudi Arabia. I didn't think we would agree on much, Curt. But, golly I think this is a great idea. If we can get this done, you deserve a medal. Forget giving Saudi Arabia foreign aid, lets just pave everything that is not an oil well and put up some Bass Pro Shops and Wal Marts. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
Usually what I would term a chirp on a frequent basis is the early warning that the motor is on the way out. But you say it sounds like a piece of paper in there? That isn't the same sound I am thinking of. I am thinking of something that does sound like a bird chirp. Now early warning is a relative term. Mine has being doing this on and off for 2.5 years and I am still staring at the replacement motor and birdcage (got from Kaleb I think) beside my desk. The answer is yes it's an amateur job but not quite as easy as it may first appear. Mac on 7/1/08 16:41, Bill R at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
I'd think it more likely the fan is in trouble, or rather a bearing in the fan is in trouble. My 190D had exactly the same sort of thing. I took the cover off the fan (which also requires removing the windshield wiper and some other covers) and dripped some ATF onto the shafts (theres a fan on each end of the motor) and ran it for awhile. Then dripped in more ATF. Its been nearly 2 years like that now with no reoccurance. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:41:42 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
Bill R wrote: A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? I'm not familiar with the W126, but is this the motor that samples the air for the climate control? If so, they're pretty cheap new (IIRC, ~$50), but you can always lube it to see if that stops the squeak. In the W124 it is pretty easy, but it takes a good bit of dexterity and small hands. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Not with the top up! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
Hi all, smart cars are not imported via the MBUSA corporate entity. For the most part, it is the Penske organization that has established smart dealerships. Many are adjacent to MB dealers, but are not financially affiliated. For more info about where smart dealerships are located, check out this link: http://www.smartusa.com/smart-usa-find-a-dealer.aspx Hope this helps.. Chuck On the surface of the sun in Phoenix AZ On Jul 1, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Donald Snook wrote: I just stopped by my Indy, Autohaus Stuttgart, to see if he has any cars. He works on Mercedes and also usually has 7-10 cars for sale. I walked into the shop and he was working a newer Smart. It was the fourtwo. He was cussing up a storm he hated the car. The car only had 11,000 miles and the a/c needed a recharge. The engine was crammed into the rear and looks like it would be impossible to work on. the Mercedes dealer said they did not do warranty work on the car. So, the customer brought it to my Indy. The engine was leaking oil also. Not that I ever wanted one of these, but, this confirmed my suspicion that I don't want one. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
I wish you well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. Wilton Strickland wrote: Damn!! And I used to want a redun so bad! A blue one woulda been OK, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still Wife's work associate still has this for sale.she says she'll now take $2500. Anyone interested? (I hope I do the pic attachment right.even though the pic is kinda lousy) Her description: 1985 mercedes 380 sl, 104, miles, interior seats needs cloth inserts, dash board with crack, AC and stereo work, has security system, carpet headliner ok, grey, needs work on oil pan gasket and fuel injection. Beautiful car, exterior wonderful. Let me know if any of yous is interested and I can go look at it.maybe take some better pics. Bob R -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: carpic.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1612588 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080630/a2a d938b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I know all about a 124 just needing a charge. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] We interrupt this broadcast Yes a 124 with non working air-imagine that. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. SLOW LEAK Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] We interrupt this broadcast On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 260E might be a good car for Don Snook-no mention of AC in ad. If they don't mention it, it probably just needs a charge. Alex Chamberlain pair of A/C-less 124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
Yeah, I was uncertain about that 'chirp' description but couldn't think of a better word at the time. It is almost certainly a piece of something that periodically gets to a position where the fan clips it. I do have a couple of MB CD's that just might have an exploded view of the area. Would such a thing be written up anywhere? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD Usually what I would term a chirp on a frequent basis is the early warning that the motor is on the way out. But you say it sounds like a piece of paper in there? That isn't the same sound I am thinking of. I am thinking of something that does sound like a bird chirp. Now early warning is a relative term. Mine has being doing this on and off for 2.5 years and I am still staring at the replacement motor and birdcage (got from Kaleb I think) beside my desk. The answer is yes it's an amateur job but not quite as easy as it may first appear. Mac on 7/1/08 16:41, Bill R at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
From the sound I'll hold out for paper [or something else] for a bit longer. I started out thinking bearing, but the sound just isn't right for that [I don't think]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:54 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD I'd think it more likely the fan is in trouble, or rather a bearing in the fan is in trouble. My 190D had exactly the same sort of thing. I took the cover off the fan (which also requires removing the windshield wiper and some other covers) and dripped some ATF onto the shafts (theres a fan on each end of the motor) and ran it for awhile. Then dripped in more ATF. Its been nearly 2 years like that now with no reoccurance. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:41:42 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet
Does one hafta RR the antenna and the extension mechanism to RR the antenna fender grommet on an '87 300D? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
it takes a good bit of dexterity and small hands Neither of which I have. I suppose I am willing to fiddle with anything enough, but not much I can do [or am willing to do] about big hands. It could be the sampler motor I suppose, but it sounds like a 'bigger' fan than that. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD Bill R wrote: A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? I'm not familiar with the W126, but is this the motor that samples the air for the climate control? If so, they're pretty cheap new (IIRC, ~$50), but you can always lube it to see if that stops the squeak. In the W124 it is pretty easy, but it takes a good bit of dexterity and small hands. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'd personally rather ride the bus -- if I'm gonna be squeezed in like a sardine, at least let someone else drive! Try the bus in my town. Most of them drive around empty. You'd have all the room you ever need. Stupid waste of money. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
Bill R. wrote: A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? That is what mine sounded like before the blower motor failed completely. This was on my former 124 300D (now OK Don's). I think that chirping noise is the blower going bad. I did not attempt to replace the blower motor myself, instead it cost about $130 in labor. I have no idea how involved it is on a 126. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
Either way it wouldn't be a bad time to have the bearing lubed. Shouldn't be a big job for a competant indy... --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 5:34 PM From the sound I'll hold out for paper [or something else] for a bit longer. I started out thinking bearing, but the sound just isn't right for that [I don't think]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:54 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD I'd think it more likely the fan is in trouble, or rather a bearing in the fan is in trouble. My 190D had exactly the same sort of thing. I took the cover off the fan (which also requires removing the windshield wiper and some other covers) and dripped some ATF onto the shafts (theres a fan on each end of the motor) and ran it for awhile. Then dripped in more ATF. Its been nearly 2 years like that now with no reoccurance. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:41:42 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB, etc.
Donald, I couldn't get past your #3 as I just saw this BS last week and if you had taken the time to check the facts, (strange to say that to an attorney!) you would see that she said nothing about taxing retirement funds. The rest of your points are unfounded as wellfor instance, the tax increase is nothing more than getting us back to square one before the tax credits for rich Americans were handed out on a silver spoon. Things were just fine back then so don't worry. Oh wait, I guess invasion costs of many triilions of dollars may have a bearing on our economy as well so i wouldn't worry about the rich having to pay taxes. John On 7/1/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote: I'm amazed, I though Nam was the screwup of the century, guess we moved on to a new one. I cannot think of another situation short of the American Revolution where every single decision was the worst possible alternative, and the worst possible person put in charge. If Barack Obama is elected, you will see something worse. 2000-2008 will be the good old days. Let me just give you a glimpse of what BHO wants to do. 1.End the Bush tax cuts (this will be the SINGLE LARGEST across the board tax increase EVER). 2.Increasing taxes ALWAYS has a negative effect on investing, savings, production, hiring, expansion, and growth. 3.Nancy Pelosi will have a willing President to help her in her plan to tax (up to 70%) your retirement accounts. 4.There will be attempts to Nationalize the Oil companies (there has already been rumblings of this in the House - see Maxine Waters) 5.Pollution taxes - just wait till your old smelly diesel is taxed because it contributes 10 times the pollution of newer cars. 6.Nationalized Health Care, I know Doctors are have already said they moving to Latin America to open up Clinics for Americans who have the money to pay for health care and don't want to be cared under government programs. 7.If nothing is done with Social Security, it will be Bankrupt by 2015. 8.HUGE numbers of Judges will appointed to the Circuit Courts of Appeals (the layer of Courts right below the US Supreme Court). The democrats have been blocking HUNDREDS of Judges. BHO's judges will greatly expand the authority of government. 9.THE largest increase in government spending ever. The Era of big government just got its Messiah. 10.The most liberal senator will become the most liberal president. 11.Crazy liberal whackjobs like George Soros will become members of cabinet. 12.Relations with Isreal will plummet to new lows as BHO recognizes and meets with every political group in the middle east bent on Isreal's destruction. 13.Iran will build its nuclear weapon and as pissed off as Isreal will be, the dialogue between the two will become increasingly bitter. 14.As soon as BHO pulls all of the troops out of Iraq, Iran will move in and take over the Country. Iran will become the new big bad bully of the middle east, with the manpower, money, and infrastructure to destroy anything in the middle east that it wants to. This is just a snapshot. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Surely you jest. I don't jest and don't call my Shirley. Wonder why the Iranians don't like us? Explore the CIA's methods there in the 70's. Its a wonder they haven't gotten real serious about Jihad. If we decided to invade the middle east and take the oil by force we'd never see $4 a gallon gas ever again... One of the reasons gas is so expensive is the amount of it we've wasted in Iraq... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:48:17 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt wrote: What if the US didn't selfishly work to steal the resources of the middle east and then dish out a pittance in foreign aid? I wish we would do that. Let's go over and appropriate all the oil in the middle east. We could have $1 gas again. I would go back to driving my Ford Expedition. Hell, I might drive an old 73 Cadillac like my brother does. Do you think Obama would do this? I would vote for him if he would agree to take over the middle east and all of its oil. We wouldn't need income taxes, we could generate as much money as Saudi Arabia. I didn't think we would agree on much, Curt. But, golly I think this is a great idea. If we can get this done, you deserve a medal. Forget giving Saudi Arabia foreign aid, lets just pave everything that is not an oil well and put up some Bass Pro Shops and Wal Marts. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
What's the big deal about the Smart car?..I get 30 mpg in my 4800 lb. S Class. I'm waiting for the Tesla http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/30/BATH11GGP2.DTLt ype=tech then I'll dump the S. until then I'll stick with the ole' girl. Walt Lasher 1992 W140 S350/300SD Seattle -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1544 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080701/f41f37c8/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
I will have to have my indy do it also. They just replaced the vacuum pods a few months ago. Guess I should have had them check into those at the time, though there was no problem at the time, and he usually does such things without being asked. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:44 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD Bill R. wrote: A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? That is what mine sounded like before the blower motor failed completely. This was on my former 124 300D (now OK Don's). I think that chirping noise is the blower going bad. I did not attempt to replace the blower motor myself, instead it cost about $130 in labor. I have no idea how involved it is on a 126. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
Good advice. Anything else to check while he is in there? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:57 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'; Bill R Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD Either way it wouldn't be a bad time to have the bearing lubed. Shouldn't be a big job for a competant indy... --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 5:34 PM From the sound I'll hold out for paper [or something else] for a bit longer. I started out thinking bearing, but the sound just isn't right for that [I don't think]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:54 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD I'd think it more likely the fan is in trouble, or rather a bearing in the fan is in trouble. My 190D had exactly the same sort of thing. I took the cover off the fan (which also requires removing the windshield wiper and some other covers) and dripped some ATF onto the shafts (theres a fan on each end of the motor) and ran it for awhile. Then dripped in more ATF. Its been nearly 2 years like that now with no reoccurance. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:41:42 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping - sounds like a piece of paper got in there. It stopped for a few weeks, with just occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time. It sometimes stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit sometimes]. Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out whatever the fan is hitting? Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to get at it that way? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
This is good. Thanks. That konigstiger lives in town with me. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues Robert Rentfro wrote: Oh yasorry. It just said that there were rack and pinion issues with some '05 E320s and to check with the dealer. Dealer basically told me to take a hike. You talked with Bud? Maybe he knows about it and can give you a recall number or something... You might want to check out this thread and maybe PM konigstiger. He seems to be someone on the inside. http://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=4080d06d3c85818acbf7809b77894d9b; t=145960 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
Probabably around 6k, which is cheap cheap cheap for a 560SL. Yea, you should fit in it. Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet
Does one hafta RR the antenna and the extension mechanism to RR the antenna fender grommet on an '87 300D? No direct experience, but in everything else (126, 107, 201) you have to pull the antenna mechanism down into the trunk to change the grommet. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
I wish I hadn't waited on mine. If I'd done this last year there would have been alot less work. Of course I could only barely weld last year... Some would say I can still only barely weld. Don't let that stop you! Congratulations on the repairs. Our 190D has (had!) factory plugs in the jack points. (My wife lost one when she changed a tire on the road.) Hey Jim - While you are cutting up old microwaves I am wondering if you might have access to a 13.5 glass turntable with the three smaller tabs on the bottom. I broke mine and Maytag wants $63 to replace it. Nope, sorry. I only ever cut up two. One that died at work so I took it (for the heavy cord) and then used the sheet metal since I still had it. The other because it was a burned-up but identical model to the small one in our camper that had a bad door safety switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet
Same is true on a 123-my 124 looks the same but have not taken it apart. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet Does one hafta RR the antenna and the extension mechanism to RR the antenna fender grommet on an '87 300D? No direct experience, but in everything else (126, 107, 201) you have to pull the antenna mechanism down into the trunk to change the grommet. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis
This particular PBU has already been resoldered once by Mr. Cathey, so if it is Tango Uniform again I am about ready to junk it and get one from Rusty... godforsaken analog electronics! Whyfo you think it's analog, hmm? There's a 40-pin processor in there, I don't know which one. But the diagnostic output on X2-1 will do a blink code at you if you hook a voltmeter (logic probe) to it. Highly unlikely that they did _that_ using analog electronics. The inputs are analog, but that's fairly normal. I hope we can lay the blame elsewhere! Your particular unit took hours to resolder, it was a bear of a job. Heavy oxidation kept many connections from 'wetting' easily. If the evaporator temperature is 'too cold', on X2-4, it will not run the AC compressor. A broken sensor (wire) will be treated as infinitely cold. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What a difference new wheel bearings make!
That may have been it then. Looked like the seal was bad, though, and leaked. The grease was brown around the bearings and there were marks on the rollers. Easier to replace than to repack, actually. Peter On Jun 30, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've never seen this stuff before, a waxy yellow, didn't look at all like lithium. Almost clear. Castrol wheel bearing grease is sort of a light yellowish brown. Not clear though. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart car? Maybe not
The original Smart car got 60 - 70 mpg with the Diesel engine. That's what got me excited about it. However, they have no plans to sell the Diesel version in the US, and the original model is out of production now. I've lost all interest. I'm very happy with the 33 - 35 I get in the 2.5 turbos. Yes, an affordable Tesla is the next one I'm excited about --- but I like the 124'as so much, I'll probably keep them anyway (can't have too many cars). On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the big deal about the Smart car?..I get 30 mpg in my 4800 lb. S Class. I'm waiting for the Tesla http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/30/BATH11GGP2.DTLt ype=tech -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
The 380 was anemic - you need the 560. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet
Yes. Lower antenna, remove liner (this is a real pain) enough to get to the single 10 mm screw that holds it in. Pull antenna motor and mast down to get it out of the grommet. Remove outer piece if it's still on there, push grommet down through hole. It will usually break up, if not, use pliers to rip it apart, it's not going to be flexible any more. Don't gouge the paint. Coat the new grommet with a bit of dishwashing detergent to make is slipppery and force the locking ridge up around the sheetmetal from inside. Make sure it's seated correctly or the antenna won't go back in. Once the grommet is installed correctly, insert the antenna from below and pop it in place. Install screw, replace liner, and snap the outer over over the grommet. 5 min job once you get the bleeding liner out. I pull the top front cover around to free it from the fuel tank cover, etc and then wrestle the side out from under the fender, but you may find a better way. Sadly, none of those little access doors in it let out do the antenna. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
Except, 380 rated for regular fuel, 560 burns premium. Never felt a lack of power with my 85 380SL. On 7/1/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 380 was anemic - you need the 560. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet
That's what I thought. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet Does one hafta RR the antenna and the extension mechanism to RR the antenna fender grommet on an '87 300D? No direct experience, but in everything else (126, 107, 201) you have to pull the antenna mechanism down into the trunk to change the grommet. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
I have said it before and I will say it again, there is no problem running regular in the 560 engine. John Freer wrote: Except, 380 rated for regular fuel, 560 burns premium. Never felt a lack of power with my 85 380SL. On 7/1/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 380 was anemic - you need the 560. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet
Thanks. 'Bout what I thought. 'Just hoping for some magic. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet Yes. Lower antenna, remove liner (this is a real pain) enough to get to the single 10 mm screw that holds it in. Pull antenna motor and mast down to get it out of the grommet. Remove outer piece if it's still on there, push grommet down through hole. It will usually break up, if not, use pliers to rip it apart, it's not going to be flexible any more. Don't gouge the paint. Coat the new grommet with a bit of dishwashing detergent to make is slipppery and force the locking ridge up around the sheetmetal from inside. Make sure it's seated correctly or the antenna won't go back in. Once the grommet is installed correctly, insert the antenna from below and pop it in place. Install screw, replace liner, and snap the outer over over the grommet. 5 min job once you get the bleeding liner out. I pull the top front cover around to free it from the fuel tank cover, etc and then wrestle the side out from under the fender, but you may find a better way. Sadly, none of those little access doors in it let out do the antenna. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D
OK, it was worth a try. BillR Hey Jim - While you are cutting up old microwaves I am wondering if you might have access to a 13.5 glass turntable with the three smaller tabs on the bottom. I broke mine and Maytag wants $63 to replace it. Nope, sorry. I only ever cut up two. One that died at work so I took it (for the heavy cord) and then used the sheet metal since I still had it. The other because it was a burned-up but identical model to the small one in our camper that had a bad door safety switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day
No Mercedes content here as it involves my radio-controlled boat. My driveshaft coupler set screw hole had worn-out threads which caused it to keep backing out of the hole losing contact with the shaft. Luckily, I noticed it during normal servicing/lubrication, not on the lake! I decided to purchase a replacement and be done with it. The replacement was larger than the original, no go! So, I asked myself, What would Jim Cathey do? I wanted to have the boat ready for the water, and ordering the proper replacement along with the wait time was going to take a while. I discovered that the incorrect replacement had set screw holes in both sides, and the old one didn't! a couple seconds later, thanks to a 1/8 drill bit, I had the old one ready to put back in service! The new hole accepted the set screw and it threaded in tightly! It stayed in during a 5 minute test run around the pool! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
And I'll say it againyou can run cat urine if you want but the factory says to run only premium and that is all we should be advising. The knock sensors in the 80's were not as sophisticated as they are now. On 7/1/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have said it before and I will say it again, there is no problem running regular in the 560 engine. John Freer wrote: Except, 380 rated for regular fuel, 560 burns premium. Never felt a lack of power with my 85 380SL. On 7/1/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 380 was anemic - you need the 560. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
Indeedremember I drive a 300D mit keine turbo. That 380SL would probably feel like a rocket. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still Except, 380 rated for regular fuel, 560 burns premium. Never felt a lack of power with my 85 380SL. On 7/1/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 380 was anemic - you need the 560. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
I dont see a car running on cat urine. I have owned many 116/117 motors and have been running them just fine for 20 years on regular. No difference in running, no change in fuel economy, many hundreds of thousands of miles without any engine trouble. Just my first hand experience. I dont see any need in spending extra money on premium just because the factory says so. John Freer wrote: And I'll say it againyou can run cat urine if you want but the factory says to run only premium and that is all we should be advising. The knock sensors in the 80's were not as sophisticated as they are now. On 7/1/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have said it before and I will say it again, there is no problem running regular in the 560 engine. John Freer wrote: Except, 380 rated for regular fuel, 560 burns premium. Never felt a lack of power with my 85 380SL. On 7/1/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 380 was anemic - you need the 560. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Im getting ready to sell my 86 560SL pretty soon. For how much? Would I fit in it? I'm 6'3 and 275. 3 Would I fit in the 85 380SL ? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:20:33 -0400 Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dou you mean that they found actionable wrongdoing on the part of the president and were prevented from making the charges known or having any filings made on the charges? Yes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
The 380 was anemic - you need the 560. Mine's not all that bad. But it's no 560, either. Our 560's all claim to need premium, but I've never tried regular. I know for a fact that our 250C absolutely requires premium. When I got it I didn't know, but it pinged like a SOB, even on mid-grade. The knock sensors in the 80's were not as sophisticated as they are now. Perhaps not. But the 560 SL doesn't have any knock sensor. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a 40-pin processor in there, I don't know which one. But the diagnostic output on X2-1 will do a blink code at you if you hook a voltmeter (logic probe) to it. Hmph. I don't have the FSM handy, but I could've sworn it was only the '90s 124s that had the diagnostic capability. Wasn't it one of the Dons who freaked out when the recirc light in his 2.5 started blinking at him? In any case, like Peter said, I need to run through all the sensor tests before I point fingers at the PBU, which I'd hate to have to do. Your hard work has not gone unnoticed! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle
Our '82 240D/3.0 periodically has a bouncing speedometer needle. I've thought of pulling the instrument cluster and then pulling the center of the speedometer cable out and dousing it with Zoom-Spout Turbine Oil while I was re-inserting it. Is this an appropriate treatment? I have some white lithium grease around here (if I can ever find it!), too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
