Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
I had the first year US Focus. Except for the 5 [?] recalls for that model I liked it. It was roomy [especially lots of headroom for you tall people] and quite comfortable to drive for hours at a time. Assuming the recall stuff got worked out in later years I think it is probably a good choice. I got about 28+ MPG with lots of interstate miles. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available No such issues. I am selling it so I can buy something with an automatic transmission (for Debbie). Thinking either a four cylinder small pickup or perhaps a twin of our daughter's car (Cavalier), a car Debbie and I both like a lot. Ford Focus is another possibility. Nothing on the short list will match the MPG of the Quantum but we will have to live with that. The Quantum was a 'project of love' -- I couldn't stand to see the car go off to the crusher as it was scheduled to do. But now it is time to move on to something different. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:24 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it for sale? Rust about to drop your butt on the pavement? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the great dick van patten strikes again! (dog food
I surely couldn't let that one get by... --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] the great dick van patten strikes again! (dog food To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 7:18 PM A point for Curt off my score. He had me going on that one for a moment. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:30 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] the great dick van patten strikes again! (dog food And messy. I mean wouldn't it be easier to steal a whole chicken? The livers are mighty small... Besides whats a chicken to do after you've poached his liver? I mean, poaching deer is one thing, this is crazy. -Curt Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:40:17 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] the great dick van patten strikes again! (dog food offtopic) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Jeez, I bet poaching chicken livers smell awful. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
I somehow deleted all of my mail...so if you replied i didn't see it. Mike -Original Message- Date: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35:32 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? Curt, Firewood for a 240D eh? How much wood and where? I have a locust grove i can cut from Mike -Original Message- Date: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:18:53 am To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? Wait, what? How much? A guy had offered to trade firewood for my 240D which starts to look pretty good with this on the table... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 23:43:47 -0400 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My Quantum gets 45 mpg and is for sale. Angered me this evening so the price has dropped by $100. (stubborn door handle) On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Craigslist finds
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/car/747099605.html Raleigh, NC (nice rodbender) http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/pts/747488523.html 97 E300D engine near Chicago Didn't somebody want a 73 220D? http://houston.craigslist.org/car/747317442.html (offer him $500, he is desperate for money) http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/747599342.html 95 E300D $4,000 Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes on Craigslist no pics see below
http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/748722352.html This person is a busy real estate executive and therefore cannot provide pictures. I guess that means I am too busy to be interested in their car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
Wonko the Sane wrote: No such issues. I am selling it so I can buy something with an automatic transmission (for Debbie). Thinking either a four cylinder small pickup or perhaps a twin of our daughter's car (Cavalier), a car Debbie and I both like a lot. Ford Focus is another possibility. Nothing on the short list will match the MPG of the Quantum but we will have to live with that. My 2.5T has an auto! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 53 Mercedes Diesel in wichita?
http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/747586023.html no affiliation. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
Yea, she loves your 2.5T -- but you want too much for it. It is worth what you are asking -- I just don't want to spend that much. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:42 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: No such issues. I am selling it so I can buy something with an automatic transmission (for Debbie). Thinking either a four cylinder small pickup or perhaps a twin of our daughter's car (Cavalier), a car Debbie and I both like a lot. Ford Focus is another possibility. Nothing on the short list will match the MPG of the Quantum but we will have to live with that. My 2.5T has an auto! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/quantum/index.html -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Mmm ... Diesel V-Dub. If only I could get these moths out of my wallet! HEY! Stop eating my money! EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: jesse jackson is a nut job
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07102008/news/nationalnews/jesses_a_nut_job_119244.htm Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SD vac pump now sucks
Per the list suggestion, took off the cover plate and turned the top (single) check valve around (as it should be, noticeable from looking at it), put it back together, got vac but still would not shut off. Further diagnosis showed one broken hose, replaced that, it still would not shut off. Traced problem to the vac switch thingie (for transmission kickdown?) on top of valve cover. Twiddled with that a bit (not sure what I did) then all was well! Good brakes, good shutoff, everything working. Thanks to the list! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheels?
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, TE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a very nice set of used Bundt's for sale. 14 X 6.5 ET30. They will fit perfectly on a W115 and the 6.5 rim width gives you more flexibility when choosing a tire size. What have you been trying to get out of them? EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the great dick van patten strikes again! (dog food offtopic)
Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern - that's my kind of show! To be truthfuil, however, my own eating habits are far less adventurous... On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:27 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Not to me, as I am a real liver afficionado. Two of my favorite dishes are scrambled eggs with chicken livers (sauteed in butter and served rare), and beef liver and onions, preferably accompanied by mashed potatoes. I haven't figured out a good wine for the beef liver. Any ideas? Do you watch those crazy food shows? The ones where they eat all the local cultural foods sounds like you'd like some of that stuff!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid 190D ac
yea, I changed all the o rings when I had it apart. Peter Frederick wrote: Did you replace ALL the o-rings (including the four -- or solid gasket in the compressor and the compressor mainfold to hose set ones)? If not, plan on doing so, they all leak once you change to 134a. You need the actual correct size, too -- too small and they won't seal, a little to large and they tear and leak (BTDT). Also suspect the shaft seal on the compressor -- pull the clutch, any signs of oil, replace the seal. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Firewood was: Re: why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
In D.C. you need a permit to remove trees above a certain size/age from your yard. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: I'd consult an arborist about having any dangerous limbs removed and keep the trees unless they are dying or something. Like I read on a tree forum yesterday when a fellow was asking how to cheaply get a couple of silver maples removed It might be best to keep the trees, save your money and do more reading on the benefits trees provide. Well, if anyone wants to cut a BIG ASS elm tree, they can have all of the wood. Must be insured in case you crash the tree through my house. It is a massive tree that has taken over our fairly small backyard. I would love to have it gone and to plant a Bradford pear tree in its place. I have two Bradfords in the front yard and I think they are very nice trees. They have very nice white flowers and a great shape. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Craigs List Search
www.crazedlist.org Rick Knoble wrote: A long while back someone posted a way to search all of Craig's list at once. I have a news reader that is not what I am looking for. It was a URL. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
yep OK Don wrote: Debbie needs one of the two that Kleb has for sale now - she'd look good in either one, and both have auto trannys. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No such issues. I am selling it so I can buy something with an automatic transmission (for Debbie). Thinking either a four cylinder small pickup or perhaps a twin of our daughter's car (Cavalier), a car Debbie and I both like a lot. Ford Focus is another possibility. Nothing on the short list will match the MPG of the Quantum but we will have to live with that. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5
If it was a bronze-y/brownish gray that's called taupe. The dark middle gray is Arabian gray, and the brownish dark charcoal gray is anthracite gray. My 111 coupe was originally anthracite gray with a green interior when delivered to Belgium in 1969 - very imaginative! It had been changed to light ivory when I bought it in 1990, and I repainted it moss green a couple years later as part of my heroic restoration effort that lasted nearly 4 years. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don wrote: I'd love to have another! I just have to decide if I want to make the investment. ALl the ones I see F/S around here (Va) have rust in the floors and rockers - at 1st glance. The mechanical parts are usually in working condition but I suspect the prices of these cars attract buyers who are unable to properly care for them. I just got my oil changed on my car and my Indy had a BEAUTIFUL 280SEL 4.5. It was a very odd grey color in perfect condition with a black interior. Really a beautiful car. I was in a part of the shop I had never been in. He had a 1980's Rolls, a 1984 Ferrari, a new Porsche Cayenne, a couple of funky looking old rat rods, a couple of clapped out 60's Volvos and a VERY nice 126 Coupe 500SEC with 76,000 miles. He had a price tag on it for $13,900 and I told him I was thinking more like $8500. He said he might actually take $8500 for it. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
Watching a Republican debates was like a visit to the darker side of humanity. There were several candidates who simply exuded an aura of evil (Duncan Hunter and Tancredo, e.g.) On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: That is because Ron Paul comes off as a loon. My point was that Rudy the Ghoul was the overwhelming media pick before the primaries and caucuses got started, and he generally ended up in about 6th place in the elections. He beat Ron Paul a couple of times, but I don't think he ever beat McLame or Hucksterbee, not even in Florida. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Craigs List Search
I use Google. Enter the following into the text box (for example): Mercedes 87 300SDL site:craigslist.org -Dave Walton On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A long while back someone posted a way to search all of Craig's list at once. I have a news reader that is not what I am looking for. It was a URL. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: jesse jackson is a nut job
jesse will do anything to get in the limelight! On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nypost.com/seven/07102008/news/nationalnews/jesses_a_nut_job_119244.htm Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the great dick van patten strikes again! (dog food, offtopic)
Thanks. I like Black Opal wines. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:54 PM, MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would try a Black Opal Cabernet Sauvignon or if you like a little sweeter a Merlot from Black Opal. Manfred Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:13:42 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to me, as I am a real liver afficionado. Two of my favorite dishes are scrambled eggs with chicken livers (sauteed in butter and served rare), and beef liver and onions, preferably accompanied by mashed potatoes. I haven't figured out a good wine for the beef liver. Any ideas? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5
Andrew do you still have any of the cars ? mak - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5 I owned an Arabian gray/parchment tex 1970 European 280SE with AC and PW, no s/r, followed by a tobacco brown/cognac leather (burlwood) 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan. I restored them to concours winning condition and loved them both. The 3.5 engine was extremely smooth and powerful, and the air suspension was quite luxurious. They both had 4 speed ATs, compared to the 3 speed transmission in the 280SE 4.5 sedans. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Chuck was speaking more about the nature of this particular type of car - a full sized sedan with a big V8. It was very fast and luxurious. As opposed to a diesel that could be converted to run on french fry grease -- I was lucky enough to own a '72 28SE 4.5 - the SEL was the same except for a 4 additionalm space in the rear seat area. MB engineers are known to have commented that this was probably the best big MB sedan ever made. The engine in mine was in pretty good mechanical condition and even so it only got around 14mpg when tuned perfectly. But all that was forgotten once the speedo got above 80mph - the road got quieter, the wind noise subsided and best of all the chassis changed the whole character of the car. The suspension became smooth and compliant - soaking up bumps and tar strips with the feel of a Ferrari/Cadillac combination! They're amazing cars but like all from that time they can rust severely. The front bumper support, lower fenders, headlight buckets, rockers (big time!) and rear quarters - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5 If MPG isn't a consideration on classics, than why has the price of diesel pontons shot up so much recently? Tyler On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Gary, An earlier auction did not meet the Reserve. Reserve has been reduced. As to gas crunch, etc., IMHO, if you want this kind of classic, MPG is not a consideration. Besides, it ain't a daily driver. I haven't seen it, but been told it in VG condition As described Take care, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Craigs List Search
I use Google. Enter the following into the text box (for example): Mercedes 87 300SDL site:craigslist.org -Dave Walton That is it. Thanks! Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
andrew strasfogel wrote: Watching a Republican debates was like a visit to the darker side of humanity. There were several candidates who simply exuded an aura of evil (Duncan Hunter and Tancredo, e.g.) Hunter and Tancredo? I thought you were talking about Rudy and Romney. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
Tancredo's wife was at our small county fair last summer, putting literature on car windshields. I had a sudden flashback to my days at Bob Jones when I saw her. She just seemed to ooze a message that if you ain't white and if you can't speak English, you have no place in my corner of the world. Perhaps she doesn't really think that but that is how she came across. Hillary's area campaign rep was sitting at the Dem booth with me; she was born and reared in Rome. I kept trying to get her to introduce herself to Mrs. Tancredo (and do so speaking Italian) while wearing her Hillary t-shirt. She wouldn't do it. So, I suggested she say, Tancredo -- isn't that an Italian name? Still wouldn't bite. The campaign literature he distributed in Iowa didn't even try to disguise his downright racist and extremist views -- so he gets one point for honesty. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:21 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watching a Republican debates was like a visit to the darker side of humanity. There were several candidates who simply exuded an aura of evil (Duncan Hunter and Tancredo, e.g.) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] best way to start worn out diesel
It seems than at Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:19:45 +0200, Peter wrote: My old w123 300D is on its last 10km , compression +- 15 bar and it currently requires about 12 sec of glowing ( new type plugs ) and seconds of cranking at 10degC ambient. Now the question is do you glow twice and possibly reduce cranking time , or reduce glow time and crank more - there is a compromise between glowplug life , starter motor life and battery life. I wonder what the best compromise is. Further throttling help with cold starting ? - the idea being that all that excess air drawn in when starting cools the intake charge unnecessarily. Regards Peter I quite driving one of my 240s when it required two glow cycles and the starter plus a good sized hill if the air temperature was below 10 C (50 F). The block heater is big help. In my experience, more glow and less crank seems to work best. But as summer turned into autumn, and daytime temperatures stayed below 15 C (60 F), I retired the car. It's one of my best parts cars now! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cars for sale
I recently looked at a couple W123s Located south of St. Louis, MO near the town of Hillsboro (just up the road from the Goldman covered bridge park) His email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has a '84 300D, asking $2200 * practically rust free * fair red paint * broken/missing air filter mount pieces * tailpipe falling off * power sun roof * power steering leak - occasionally driven dry * evidence of water on floor ( I don't remember which one...) * complains that the engine vibrates * new motor mounts * looks like old style injection pump damper bolt And then the one I really want an '85 300TD - but I want it for _way_ less than the $5000 he's asking * tired and worn red-ish paint * sun roof * door locks disconnected * rear suspension is needs work * 3rd row seat * damp floor on passenger back seat * AC works, but not great * dash disassembled around the HVAC controls * glove box door latch broken * seems to start an run okay * transmission shift well No association, I just happened to look at them and am helping 'cause he seems to be a nice guy - just wants too much for his cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
She just seemed to ooze a message that if you ain't white and if you can't speak English, you have no place in my corner of the world. Well, I think she's oozing half right. (And half wrong.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Question about a small diesel
What about selling as-is? :) Luther Harry Watkins wrote: Selling the units they are installed in is my plan when/if I can get the engines running properly. They were put in the scrap pile for bad engines and the Super tells me his mechanic knew not about diesels, that gives me hope. Harry On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:00 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you might want to re-sell some? On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe, if I were to give you a contact, h, I'll think about that. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Spork plugs
A week ago I pulled the plugs from the rough-running '82 380SL, and found #2 a bit wet, and #7 oil-fouled. I cleaned them off and it ran great again. Well, a week later and it's running a bit rough again so I pulled #7. Oily. This car supposedly had top-end work done 'recently', and the clean nature of the heads supports this. It ran great (though a hard starter before the new ignition components) until fairly recently, now it's doing this. What are the chances that this is due to something other than rings? Damaged valve stem seal? Head gasket? Would a compression test be worth doing? It's got around 200kmi. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
OooOOO a Stick. Its not a diesel is it (didn't think they made them in diesels). My mom had an auto, pretty good car and would haul but for an I5. -Rolf Wonko the Sane wrote: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/quantum/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
turbo-diesel 5-speed On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OooOOO a Stick. Its not a diesel is it (didn't think they made them in diesels). My mom had an auto, pretty good car and would haul but for an I5. -Rolf Wonko the Sane wrote: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/quantum/index.htmlhttp://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/quantum/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
I can't believe you of all people would say Ron Paul comes off as a loon. Or perhaps people have accustomed themselves to the lunacy that is Washington so the only candidate that makes any kind of sense whatsoever comes off as a loon... His driving a Chevette makes me admire him more. He either doesn't care about cars or considers it a forever car that he'll just keep patching up as long as he needs to. He's in his 70s isn't he? How much longer is he likely to drive? He was treated poorly throughout the primary. Anderson Cooper needs to be slapped around for the Electability... Have you got any sir? question from one of the debates. Theres a great clip on Youtube of Dr. Paul asking Can I be part of the debate that everybody else is in? -Curt Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:39:15 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year! To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mitch wrote: They really missed the boat with the R pick. Rudy Ghoul was rejected by huge margins. The media presented him as the future R nominee, while they ignored Ron Paul just like they ignored Mike Gravel on the Dem side, and yet Ron Paul almost always got more votes than Ghoulie. That is because Ron Paul comes off as a loon. He drives a 1978 Chevette. That should give you enough information to judge him. He is probably the smartest candidate, but that doesn't mean he is electable. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
Rolf wrote: OooOOO a Stick. Its not a diesel is it (didn't think they made them in diesels). My mom had an auto, pretty good car and would haul but for an I5. It's a turbo 1.6 5sp, the only way you could get a diesel in the Quantum IIRC. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] List Of CL Cars
One for Kaleb http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/748880730.html Cheap Euro looking SL http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/748753582.html 300d Needs kickdown switch http://lexington.craigslist.org/car/747393150.html Donald Snook's next Benz? (One state away) http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/747047620.html The car Donald has been looking at? http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/745421399.html An expensive project (Isn't Old World Auto owned by someone here? This guy is using one of the links) http://annarbor.craigslist.org/car/742620949.html Car for Mitch Haley http://annarbor.craigslist.org/car/739970776.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
Curt Raymond wrote: I can't believe you of all people would say Ron Paul comes off as a loon. There's a difference in thinking he is a loon, and him appearing to be a loon. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] List Of CL Cars
Rick Knoble wrote: Car for Mitch Haley http://annarbor.craigslist.org/car/739970776.html Gotta check out this one first: http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/car/748623092.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
it is a haul A** car that is a blast to drive and will get an honest 45 MPG fully loaded. 4cyl turbodiesel and 5 speed manual trans. Manual sunroof.. I always called it a poor man's Mercedes. It is everything a 240D shoulda been. Turbo, 5 speed with a sunroof and cheap to run. At 10:46 AM 7/10/2008, you wrote: turbo-diesel 5-speed On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OooOOO a Stick. Its not a diesel is it (didn't think they made them in diesels). My mom had an auto, pretty good car and would haul but for an I5. -Rolf Wonko the Sane wrote: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/quantum/index.htmlhttp://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/quantum/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
And Loren means THIS ACTUAL CAR, not one like it -- it used to belong to him. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is a haul A** car that is a blast to drive and will get an honest 45 MPG fully loaded. 4cyl turbodiesel and 5 speed manual trans. Manual sunroof.. I always called it a poor man's Mercedes. It is everything a 240D shoulda been. Turbo, 5 speed with a sunroof and cheap to run. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
John Robbins wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I can't believe you of all people would say Ron Paul comes off as a loon. There's a difference in thinking he is a loon, and him appearing to be a loon. Especially when the reruns of some of the debates were edited to make him look like a loon. It also doesn't help when the moderator is interrupting him to tell him the time before he has used up half his alloted time, then lets somebody like Romney run double the allotted time without interruption. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 309D van/motorhome
Did anyone mention the 72 309D in the most recent star. Comlete with oil heater and on board AC . $1000 in Ohio Jim in Phoenix ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spork plugs
A leak down test might be better. Apply air and see what leaks. Exhaust = valve. Dipstick = rings. Etc. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Spork plugs A week ago I pulled the plugs from the rough-running '82 380SL, and found #2 a bit wet, and #7 oil-fouled. I cleaned them off and it ran great again. Well, a week later and it's running a bit rough again so I pulled #7. Oily. This car supposedly had top-end work done 'recently', and the clean nature of the heads supports this. It ran great (though a hard starter before the new ignition components) until fairly recently, now it's doing this. What are the chances that this is due to something other than rings? Damaged valve stem seal? Head gasket? Would a compression test be worth doing? It's got around 200kmi. -- Jim _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
And this thing is for sale? Whats asking price and location? Wonko the Sane wrote: turbo-diesel 5-speed On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OooOOO a Stick. Its not a diesel is it (didn't think they made them in diesels). My mom had an auto, pretty good car and would haul but for an I5. -Rolf Wonko the Sane wrote: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/quantum/index.htmlhttp://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/quantum/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] List Of CL Cars
RE the oldworld auto, yes but the lister does state that it looks like this one Rick Knoble wrote: One for Kaleb http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/748880730.html Cheap Euro looking SL http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/748753582.html 300d Needs kickdown switch http://lexington.craigslist.org/car/747393150.html Donald Snook's next Benz? (One state away) http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/747047620.html The car Donald has been looking at? http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/745421399.html An expensive project (Isn't Old World Auto owned by someone here? This guy is using one of the links) http://annarbor.craigslist.org/car/742620949.html Car for Mitch Haley http://annarbor.craigslist.org/car/739970776.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
$1500. West-central Iowa (hour west of Ames). On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this thing is for sale? Whats asking price and location? Wonko the Sane wrote: turbo-diesel 5-speed On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OooOOO a Stick. Its not a diesel is it (didn't think they made them in diesels). My mom had an auto, pretty good car and would haul but for an I5. -Rolf Wonko the Sane wrote: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/quantum/index.htmlhttp://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/quantum/index.html http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/quantum/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars for sale
Having not seen them I think the 84 is probalby an OK price, not great just an OK. However the 85 with all that you described is WAY out of line. Dave H... Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:14:07 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Cars for sale I recently looked at a couple W123s Located south of St. Louis, MO near the town of Hillsboro (just up the road from the Goldman covered bridge park) His email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has a '84 300D, asking $2200 * practically rust free * fair red paint * broken/missing air filter mount pieces * tailpipe falling off * power sun roof * power steering leak - occasionally driven dry * evidence of water on floor ( I don't remember which one...) * complains that the engine vibrates * new motor mounts * looks like old style injection pump damper bolt And then the one I really want an '85 300TD - but I want it for _way_ less than the $5000 he's asking * tired and worn red-ish paint * sun roof * door locks disconnected * rear suspension is needs work * 3rd row seat * damp floor on passenger back seat * AC works, but not great * dash disassembled around the HVAC controls * glove box door latch broken * seems to start an run okay * transmission shift well No association, I just happened to look at them and am helping 'cause he seems to be a nice guy - just wants too much for his cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I-Phone hype...
I Phone hype ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
I'll reply here so the whole world can see... The guy had offered 4 cords for the car. That was at $150 a cord a price which is apparently no longer valid... That was before I got the car, replaced the exhaust, replaced the fog lights, fixed the drivers door lock and got the sunroof all the way closed. Soon I'll have the passenger's door lock fixed, the antenna replaced and the sunroof working properly. So at this point I'm thinking its more like a 6 or 7 cord car. After all the above is finished, new moisture barriers are in the doors, and the car is painted (the infamous $50 paint job, rustoleum with rollers) and has a replacement hood it'll be an 8-10 cord car... The car is in Winchendon, MA 01475. Locust is great wood, I'd probably give a one cord discount for it. Maybe I'd even take an extra cord for wood that was cut but not split. I'm all about options. -Curt Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:52:31 CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I somehow deleted all of my mail...so if you replied i didn't see it. Mike -Original Message- Date: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:35:32 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? Curt, Firewood for a 240D eh? How much wood and where? I have a locust grove i can cut from Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
'Cooling VERY nicely, thank you. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] best way to start worn out diesel
Unfortunately my SA spec OM617 does not have a threaded hole for the block heater - there is a normal welsch plug . Thanks for the tips Peter 2008/7/10 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It seems than at Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:19:45 +0200, Peter wrote: My old w123 300D is on its last 10km , compression +- 15 bar and it currently requires about 12 sec of glowing ( new type plugs ) and seconds of cranking at 10degC ambient. Now the question is do you glow twice and possibly reduce cranking time , or reduce glow time and crank more - there is a compromise between glowplug life , starter motor life and battery life. I wonder what the best compromise is. Further throttling help with cold starting ? - the idea being that all that excess air drawn in when starting cools the intake charge unnecessarily. Regards Peter I quite driving one of my 240s when it required two glow cycles and the starter plus a good sized hill if the air temperature was below 10 C (50 F). The block heater is big help. In my experience, more glow and less crank seems to work best. But as summer turned into autumn, and daytime temperatures stayed below 15 C (60 F), I retired the car. It's one of my best parts cars now! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year
Curt wrote: I can't believe you of all people would say Ron Paul comes off as a loon. Or perhaps people have accustomed themselves to the lunacy that is Washington so the only candidate that makes any kind of sense whatsoever comes off as a loon... What do you mean, you of all people ? Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars for sale
David Hemsley wrote: Having not seen them I think the 84 is probalby an OK price, not great just an OK. However the 85 with all that you described is WAY out of line. Agreed. Offer him something in the $1xxx range, and maybe he'll call back when nobody else wants to pay more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
The debate I saw had Romney and Giuliani getting all hot and personal vs. one another, effectively dealing each of them out of the running, IMO. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Robbins wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I can't believe you of all people would say Ron Paul comes off as a loon. There's a difference in thinking he is a loon, and him appearing to be a loon. Especially when the reruns of some of the debates were edited to make him look like a loon. It also doesn't help when the moderator is interrupting him to tell him the time before he has used up half his alloted time, then lets somebody like Romney run double the allotted time without interruption. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1978 300D
Hi Donald, Sorry I didn;t reply before now - the 78 300D is a W123 like your previous so except for the turbo thing the '78 will be virtually identical to the 82 83. As far as accelerated wear on a non-turbo, I think that;s not a issue. With a turbo the turbo is what takes the wear - without the turbo the engine takes the wear but without the turbo the wear is limited - If the engine has seen regular care/maintanence, the engine is probably less of an issue that all the auxilliary systems. IMO the electr. windows, turn signal switch, vacuum system, rust under the doors, in the rockers, at the jack points, lower fenders quarters, floor pans, - check the rubber weatherstrips - esp front rear windshields, and if it;s an auto trans, check it for shifting. It has a small plastic bushing that causes shift problems - I can give you the p/n and instructions if you end up getting it. After this many years it;s likely bad - it makes it shift late, downshift early - all kinds of things - I had to get MB CLassic involved to locate the part. BTW, I have had a '78 240D for 20+ years - exc for the engine they;re the same - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1978 300D I found a 1978 300D here in Wichita cheap. It has working a/c. so, I may buy it before someone snatches it up. It only has 175,000 miles. I am trying to get pics of the interior or schedule a time to go see it this evening. I don't know anything about the 300D that early. I had two 123's diesels, but they were 82, 83. Both were turbo. Anything special I should look for on this one? Is the mileage a little worse on the non-turbo since you have to have your foot in it all the time? Should I expect 24-26 on the highway? (that is what I got in my 123's). Any other information would be great. Thanks, Donald H. Snook P.S. anyone want to buy a Buick? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars for sale
Shameless Promotion of the Day: Do you mind a little rust? I have a fully functional 1983 300TD for half the price with all the records that you can drive home - no matter where you live! It has a working AC and a decent interior! Comes complete with a replacement RF door for the existing rusty one and a spare transmission, though nothing is wrong with the one in the car. This is a very cost-effective deal. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently looked at a couple W123s Located south of St. Louis, MO near the town of Hillsboro (just up the road from the Goldman covered bridge park) His email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has a '84 300D, asking $2200 * practically rust free * fair red paint * broken/missing air filter mount pieces * tailpipe falling off * power sun roof * power steering leak - occasionally driven dry * evidence of water on floor ( I don't remember which one...) * complains that the engine vibrates * new motor mounts * looks like old style injection pump damper bolt And then the one I really want an '85 300TD - but I want it for _way_ less than the $5000 he's asking * tired and worn red-ish paint * sun roof * door locks disconnected * rear suspension is needs work * 3rd row seat * damp floor on passenger back seat * AC works, but not great * dash disassembled around the HVAC controls * glove box door latch broken * seems to start an run okay * transmission shift well No association, I just happened to look at them and am helping 'cause he seems to be a nice guy - just wants too much for his cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5
Just the 3.5 coupe. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew do you still have any of the cars ? mak - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5 I owned an Arabian gray/parchment tex 1970 European 280SE with AC and PW, no s/r, followed by a tobacco brown/cognac leather (burlwood) 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan. I restored them to concours winning condition and loved them both. The 3.5 engine was extremely smooth and powerful, and the air suspension was quite luxurious. They both had 4 speed ATs, compared to the 3 speed transmission in the 280SE 4.5 sedans. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Chuck was speaking more about the nature of this particular type of car - a full sized sedan with a big V8. It was very fast and luxurious. As opposed to a diesel that could be converted to run on french fry grease -- I was lucky enough to own a '72 28SE 4.5 - the SEL was the same except for a 4 additionalm space in the rear seat area. MB engineers are known to have commented that this was probably the best big MB sedan ever made. The engine in mine was in pretty good mechanical condition and even so it only got around 14mpg when tuned perfectly. But all that was forgotten once the speedo got above 80mph - the road got quieter, the wind noise subsided and best of all the chassis changed the whole character of the car. The suspension became smooth and compliant - soaking up bumps and tar strips with the feel of a Ferrari/Cadillac combination! They're amazing cars but like all from that time they can rust severely. The front bumper support, lower fenders, headlight buckets, rockers (big time!) and rear quarters - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5 If MPG isn't a consideration on classics, than why has the price of diesel pontons shot up so much recently? Tyler On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Gary, An earlier auction did not meet the Reserve. Reserve has been reduced. As to gas crunch, etc., IMHO, if you want this kind of classic, MPG is not a consideration. Besides, it ain't a daily driver. I haven't seen it, but been told it in VG condition As described Take care, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: coupe interior 3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 397063 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080710/f92028ec/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
But locust is a real bear to split. :(( On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much wood and where? I have a locust grove i can cut from Locust is some of the best firewood. http://chimneysweeponline.com/woodchart.pdf Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
andrew strasfogel wrote: The debate I saw had Romney and Giuliani getting all hot and personal vs. one another, effectively dealing each of them out of the running, IMO. Romney also took a lot of shots at Thompson as soon as he got into the debates. He mainly abused Thompson and Ghoulie, I don't think he saw McLame and Huckster as his competition, any more than he worried about Paul or Keyes. And he often didn't wait his turn to do it, he'd jump right in during the other guy's speech. I think that behavior hurt him, but he still won a few states while that was going on. I thought Rudy actually looked pretty good in most of the debates, but I'd vote for GWB before I'd vote for Rudy. Perhaps there are more of us Rudy haters in the world than I would have guessed, because nobody seemed to want to vote for him. (or maybe they knew a lying hypocrite when they saw one. My favorite was seeing Rudy at an NRA event blaming Bloomberg for the gunmaker lawsuit which Rudy filed back when he was mayor.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year
I think the arguments about McC. not being qualified might work when talking about his Senate race wy back when - it doesn't hold water as pres after this amount of time. Given the choices, I am considering the 3rd party choice of Bob Barr -his website shows he's rasied a little less than $1/2 million - not even peanuts when you consider hillary raised ~$30 mil in the primaries. I know all the rammifications of voting for a conservative 3rd party candidate and the potential damage it can to do McCain and the help it will give obama - but a lot of people are getting behind Barr - It's a shame the media doesn't act professionally and present him as a potential choice instead of ignoring him completely. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year Unfortunately, I probably have more management experience than McCain -- and I'd hardly think I was qualified to run a nation. I fall back on what someone recently said -- getting your jet shot out of the sky does not qualify you to be President. ... I went through the very same flight training program in Pensacola as McCain. I flew in the same squadron. He beat me to retirement by two ranks. How about 30 years of experience in the Congress/Senate? How about being a senior Senator serving on some of the most important committees and being apprised of classified secrets and consulting with four different presidents on matters of national security. This argument that McCain is not qualified to be president is totally ridiculous! He has decades of experience. The argument is especially ridiculous when you consider the alternative. A State legislator who voted present on more votes in the Illinois legislature than any other before him who then went on to win ONE statewide race for Senate. Then served for about 11 minutes before he started planning his run for president. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year
LarryT wrote: I think the arguments about McC. not being qualified might work when talking about his Senate race wy back when - it doesn't hold water as pres after this amount of time. Given the choices, I am considering the 3rd party choice of Bob Barr -his website shows he's rasied a little less than $1/2 million - not even peanuts when you consider hillary raised ~$30 mil in the primaries. 1/2 mil? Ron Paul probably has several times that much leftover after his primary run. Too bad he had his heart set on the Repugnant nomination. The good news is that with Barr in the race, Republican voters have somebody to vote for. The bad news is that the Libertarians don't have anybody to vote for, except maybe Chuck Baldwin. Barr's prosecutorial past made him a lover of certain bun bans in the 1990s, and he'll always be a lover of the War on Some Drugs, but I have to admit he's better than McLame. http://www.gunowners.org/pres08/barr.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] best way to start worn out diesel
Lots of different types of block heaters are available. Some go in the rad hose. Some are magnetic and stick on the oil pan. Honda used to have a strip that bolted on to the side of the block. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to start worn out diesel Unfortunately my SA spec OM617 does not have a threaded hole for the block heater - there is a normal welsch plug . Thanks for the tips Peter 2008/7/10 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It seems than at Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:19:45 +0200, Peter wrote: My old w123 300D is on its last 10km , compression +- 15 bar and it currently requires about 12 sec of glowing ( new type plugs ) and seconds of cranking at 10degC ambient. Now the question is do you glow twice and possibly reduce cranking time , or reduce glow time and crank more - there is a compromise between glowplug life , starter motor life and battery life. I wonder what the best compromise is. Further throttling help with cold starting ? - the idea being that all that excess air drawn in when starting cools the intake charge unnecessarily. Regards Peter I quite driving one of my 240s when it required two glow cycles and the starter plus a good sized hill if the air temperature was below 10 C (50 F). The block heater is big help. In my experience, more glow and less crank seems to work best. But as summer turned into autumn, and daytime temperatures stayed below 15 C (60 F), I retired the car. It's one of my best parts cars now! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
This excellent story about Old Butchteaches another important lesson - if you *don't* hear a bell ringing, you're getting screwed. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; Andy Skelton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brad Magaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brandi Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cathy Maples RD Electronics (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charles Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Sedlacek [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cynthia Streams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dan Wygant [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Denise Gamble [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Don Meiners [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eddie S. Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jane Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason Upton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jay Newby [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joyce Schutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Karen Hargrave (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lisa Dupree [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martina [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Kourey [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ralph Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roy Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Scott Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Clingman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Susan Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Mcginnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tom Barnhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Yvonne Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zyg Jastrebski (TVRC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year! OLD BUTCH John was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called 'pullets,' and ten roosters to fertilize the eggs. He kept records, and any rooster not performing went into the soup pot and was replaced. This took a lot of time, so he bought some tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone, so he could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing. Now, he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report by just listening to the bells. John's favorite rooster, old Butch, was a very fine specimen, but this morning he noticed old Butch's bell hadn't rung at all! When he went to investigate, he saw the other roosters were busy chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing, but the pullets, hearing the roosters coming, could run for cover. To John's amazement, old Butch had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring. He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one. John was so proud of old Butch, he entered him in the Renfrew County Fair and he became an overnight sensation among the judges. The result was the judges not only awarded old Butch the NoBellPiece Prize but they also awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well. Clearly old Butch was a politician in the making. Who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them when they weren't paying attention. VOTE CAREFULLY THIS YEAR...THE BELLS ARE NOT ALWAYS AUDIBLE Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
Ha! How about Ditka for Pres? ;-) He's had a lot of management experience - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year! Mitch wrote: Neither of those turkeys, but at least we have adequate history to judge McLame by. I'm still astounded that somebody can sit down in the Senate in 2005 and be a major party nominee for President in 2008 without accomplishing anything in between. I saw an interesting article in Sports Illustrated about this (I know strange place to have a political article). Apparently, when Obama ran for Senate, Mike Ditka was considering running as the republican opposing Obama. Just think if Ditka would have won, Obama would be a nobody for state legislator. I don't know if that means it would have been Hillary or the dems would have put up any number of other candidates. In fact, some people who voted for Obama might have voted for a different republican. It could have been Romney v. Biden. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!
True enough... I don't think he comes off as a loon though, see my earlier comments. -Curt Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:18:39 -0500 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I can't believe you of all people would say Ron Paul comes off as a loon. There's a difference in thinking he is a loon, and him appearing to be a loon. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] List Of CL Cars
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One for Kaleb http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/748880730.html Since I'm feeling left out, I think I'll just post some cars too: 1989 mercedes benz 190-E - $700 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/748860737.html 1969 Mercedes-Benz 280SL - $34950 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/748660417.html '39 Mercedes Gazelle Replica - $6881 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/742016574.html I'd like to know why they call this a Replica, looks nothing like the Mercedes SS that I've ever seen. Classic Mercedes 450 SEL - $900 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/742759755.html Not running, darn it all. But it has a very blurry badge on the trunk ... 6.9? EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The guy had offered 4 cords for the car. That was at $150 a cord a price which is apparently no longer valid... That was before I got the car, replaced the exhaust, replaced -Curt and here I am utterly without a tree farm. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
Looks like an old Passat to me..same thing? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $1500. West-central Iowa (hour west of Ames). I'd offer you a 1994 Mitsubishi Diamante LS, (very nice, even the trunk has plush pile carpeting), but at 20 MPG it would cost more to drive it out to trade the keys than you're asking for the V-Dub. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
Actually its not. As long as you cut it so you dont have to split the knots the straight grain makes for pretty easy work. I split all of my locust by hand. Mike -Original Message- Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:04:15 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? But locust is a real bear to split. :(( On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much wood and where? I have a locust grove i can cut from Locust is some of the best firewood. http://chimneysweeponline.com/woodchart.pdf Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I think I should buy this
1979 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham D'Elegance Diesel Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-07-09, 9:50PM You are looking at a 1979 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham d'Elegance Diesel (350 ci (5.7 L) LF9 Diesel V8), yellow in color with brown interior. When the Caddy came out it stickered at almost $20,000 and had every option available. GM at the time was trying to produce more fuel efficient vehicles so they experimented with diesel technology. Title is clear and we have been driving the Caddy around for the last six months. This car was originally purchased to do a veggie oil conversion but have too many projects and not enough time. All around the Caddy is in pretty good shape for the age. The car was owned by an old man for most of its life so it didn't get many miles put on it. I was told a new diesel motor was put in the car but do not know how many miles are on it. All owners manuals, original paperwork, and original window sticker is included. Since I purchased it we have replaced the starter (new GM starter, not rebuilt $700), alternator, 2 new batteries, belts, fuel filters, greased chassis, and performed all around maintenance checked through everything. The car runs and drives well, all lights work, power windows, power locks, and even the rear defroster works. To my knowledge the only things not currently working are the A/C (I think might be a relay) and the power drivers seat. The drivers seat could use a recovering. Also the pieces rear pieces between the body and taillights needed to be replaced (priced around $170 painted to match) and currently missing the passenger side mirror. The trim ring around the passenger side headlight is also snapped but does not affect the functionality of the headlight. The headliner is also missing in the car. Remember the vehicle is almost 30 years old. I do have the original rims in my shop if someone wants them with the vehicle. The rims and adapters are hard to find because of the way the wheel bearings are setup on this car. We replaced the stereo with a nice Alpine CD deck, new 4x6 speakers in the dash, new 6x9 in the rear deck, 2 - 12 MTX subwoofers in the trunk, with a Panasonic amp. The windows tint is 5% limo tint and not the best job in the world but gets the job done. Options 350 ci 5.7L LF9 Diesel V8 Automatic Transmission Power Locks Power Windows Power Seats A/C Power Mirrors Tilt Steering Alpine CD Player (have original Radio) Cruise Control Power Steering Power Brakes 5% Limo Tint 150 Spoke Dayton (knockoff) Rims Rear Defrost (working) Leather Seats 5 Ash Trays lots of Cigarette Lighters (best feature) 4 wheel disk brakes Individual Arm Rests Individual Reading Lamps Call Chris at 785-840-6517. Thanks * This item has been posted by-owner. * Location: Lawrence, KS * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/749097664.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like an old Passat to me..same thing? Zedic Yes, it's a V-Dub B2, Passat Mark 2. Just like the Golf, which was the Rabbit in North America, and is again *sighs* They should just pick a naming convention and stick with it. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nice car on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Cadillac-Sedan-DeVille_W0QQitemZ290243352848QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6146QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This is my brother's car. Nice car. It's a land yacht. He says when he sells this he is going to get early-mid 90's 300SL. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I should buy this
Hey why not? It might make you truly appreciate your MB's. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:02 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] I think I should buy this 1979 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham D'Elegance Diesel Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-07-09, 9:50PM You are looking at a 1979 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham d'Elegance Diesel (350 ci (5.7 L) LF9 Diesel V8), yellow in color with brown interior. When the Caddy came out it stickered at almost $20,000 and had every option available. GM at the time was trying to produce more fuel efficient vehicles so they experimented with diesel technology. Title is clear and we have been driving the Caddy around for the last six months. This car was originally purchased to do a veggie oil conversion but have too many projects and not enough time. All around the Caddy is in pretty good shape for the age. The car was owned by an old man for most of its life so it didn't get many miles put on it. I was told a new diesel motor was put in the car but do not know how many miles are on it. All owners manuals, original paperwork, and original window sticker is included. Since I purchased it we have replaced the starter (new GM starter, not rebuilt $700), alternator, 2 new batteries, belts, fuel filters, greased chassis, and performed all around maintenance checked through everything. The car runs and drives well, all lights work, power windows, power locks, and even the rear defroster works. To my knowledge the only things not currently working are the A/C (I think might be a relay) and the power drivers seat. The drivers seat could use a recovering. Also the pieces rear pieces between the body and taillights needed to be replaced (priced around $170 painted to match) and currently missing the passenger side mirror. The trim ring around the passenger side headlight is also snapped but does not affect the functionality of the headlight. The headliner is also missing in the car. Remember the vehicle is almost 30 years old. I do have the original rims in my shop if someone wants them with the vehicle. The rims and adapters are hard to find because of the way the wheel bearings are setup on this car. We replaced the stereo with a nice Alpine CD deck, new 4x6 speakers in the dash, new 6x9 in the rear deck, 2 - 12 MTX subwoofers in the trunk, with a Panasonic amp. The windows tint is 5% limo tint and not the best job in the world but gets the job done. Options 350 ci 5.7L LF9 Diesel V8 Automatic Transmission Power Locks Power Windows Power Seats A/C Power Mirrors Tilt Steering Alpine CD Player (have original Radio) Cruise Control Power Steering Power Brakes 5% Limo Tint 150 Spoke Dayton (knockoff) Rims Rear Defrost (working) Leather Seats 5 Ash Trays lots of Cigarette Lighters (best feature) 4 wheel disk brakes Individual Arm Rests Individual Reading Lamps Call Chris at 785-840-6517. Thanks * This item has been posted by-owner. * Location: Lawrence, KS * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/749097664.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Question about a small diesel
These are like the units I hope to sell with a good engines, although I may keep the Workman. http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/grd/726379275.html Mine is a 2001 but not 4X4 and the engine is Mitsubishi. http://asheville.craigslist.org/grd/728538119.html, Mine is a 2000 year model Harry On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about selling as-is? :) Luther Harry Watkins wrote: Selling the units they are installed in is my plan when/if I can get the engines running properly. They were put in the scrap pile for bad engines and the Super tells me his mechanic knew not about diesels, that gives me hope. Harry On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:00 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you might want to re-sell some? On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe, if I were to give you a contact, h, I'll think about that. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice car on ebay
They are surprisingly easy to drive given the size of them. Maybe that is because you can sort of see the corners unlike today's cars. I worked with a lawyer who had a 1974 Sedan de Ville way back when and drove it a couple of times. My recollection is that it had a lot of miles on it and did not cause a whole lot of rrouble except for some sort of AC fuse or relay that kept blowing and being replaced. RAndy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:02 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] Nice car on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Cadillac-Sedan-DeVille_W0QQitemZ290243352848QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6146QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This is my brother's car. Nice car. It's a land yacht. He says when he sells this he is going to get early-mid 90's 300SL. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Specials good through end of July
102 130 06 15 a/c compressor W123 W126 Diesels 81 to 85 $249.95 123 830 06 83 a/c drier W123 W126 chassis $27.50 126 830 03 83 a/c drier W126 chassis $27.50 126 830 02 84 a/c expansion valve W123 W126 chassis $27.95 000 230 24 11 a/c compressor W201 W124 W126 chassis by VIN $325.00 000 230 11 11 a/c compressor W201 W124 W126 chassis by VIN $385.00 201 830 00 83 a/c drier W201 chassis $28.95 124 830 02 83 a/c drier W124 chassis $24.95 140 830 04 84 a/c expansion valve W201 W124 W140 chassis $21.95 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] List Of CL Cars
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Car for Mitch Haley http://annarbor.craigslist.org/car/739970776.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD Hey, who is in East Oregon? Bueler?- 1966 Mercedes 200D - $500 (Athena, Oregon) -- Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED](Athena,%20Oregon) Date: 2008-06-13, 3:41PM PDT This car runs well. It has rust in usaul places. Good glass and upper tin. 99,717 miles Good parts car. $500.00 Or Best Offer. Call (541)969-6727, ask for Mike or leave message. Or (541)566-3861 Evenings - This item has been posted by-owner. - Location: Athena, Oregon - it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 718982199 -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
I think I was mixing this up with another hardwood that is tough to split (other than pine, which isn't). On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually its not. As long as you cut it so you dont have to split the knots the straight grain makes for pretty easy work. I split all of my locust by hand. Mike -Original Message- Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:04:15 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? But locust is a real bear to split. :(( On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much wood and where? I have a locust grove i can cut from Locust is some of the best firewood. http://chimneysweeponline.com/woodchart.pdf Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantum pics available
Actually, it is a rebadged Audi 4000. It was transferred to VW when they brought out the rounded Audi 5000 in 81 or so? In any case, it is a great car, unlike the Audi 5000 POS Yes, it's a V-Dub B2, Passat Mark 2. Just like the Golf, which was the Rabbit in North America, and is again *sighs* They should just pick a naming convention and stick with it. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Specials good through end of July
Hooray for the return of monthly specials! :) Rusty Cullens wrote: 102 130 06 15 a/c compressor W123 W126 Diesels 81 to 85 $249.95 123 830 06 83 a/c drier W123 W126 chassis $27.50 126 830 03 83 a/c drier W126 chassis $27.50 126 830 02 84 a/c expansion valve W123 W126 chassis $27.95 000 230 24 11 a/c compressor W201 W124 W126 chassis by VIN $325.00 000 230 11 11 a/c compressor W201 W124 W126 chassis by VIN $385.00 201 830 00 83 a/c drier W201 chassis $28.95 124 830 02 83 a/c drier W124 chassis $24.95 140 830 04 84 a/c expansion valve W201 W124 W140 chassis $21.95 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
I'd keep the benz and buy a sweater myself Tyler On Jul 10, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'll reply here so the whole world can see... The guy had offered 4 cords for the car. That was at $150 a cord a price which is apparently no longer valid... That was before I got the car, replaced the exhaust, replaced the fog lights, fixed the drivers door lock and got the sunroof all the way closed. Soon I'll have the passenger's door lock fixed, the antenna replaced and the sunroof working properly. So at this point I'm thinking its more like a 6 or 7 cord car. After all the above is finished, new moisture barriers are in the doors, and the car is painted (the infamous $50 paint job, rustoleum with rollers) and has a replacement hood it'll be an 8-10 cord car... The car is in Winchendon, MA 01475. Locust is great wood, I'd probably give a one cord discount for it. Maybe I'd even take an extra cord for wood that was cut but not split. I'm all about options. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 MERCEDES-BENZ 300TD-T WGN - $1995 (RHODE ISLAND)
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Re: [MBZ] I think I should buy this
You should buy that caddy! Run the engine until it dies, and then put a turbocharged 606 in there. I would bet that it's heavier than a 300SDL. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 MERCEDES-BENZ 300TD-T WGN - $1995 (RHODE ISLAND)
Yes-this is from Fred's Autohaus-an independent MB shop in Warwick RI-he has been selling quite a few of his cars lately-I don't recall seeing this one there but I can easily go check it out if anyone wants. He also has a whoele lot full of parts cars. Kind of like Sanford and Son meets Star Motors. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:48 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1985 MERCEDES-BENZ 300TD-T WGN - $1995 (RHODE ISLAND) An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080710/149 aede3/attachment.ksh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Super 190E deal (no affiliation) $1500
Look here: http://corvallis.craigslist.org/car/708283773.html I'd buy it, except I only buy cars with a diesel engine and a manual transmission.. This has neither. Tyler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Super 190E deal (no affiliation) $1500
Very helpful pictures. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look here: http://corvallis.craigslist.org/car/708283773.html I'd buy it, except I only buy cars with a diesel engine and a manual transmission.. This has neither. Tyler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] List Of CL Cars
Rick wrote: Donald Snook's next Benz? (One state away) http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/747047620.html The car Donald has been looking at? http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/745421399.html; The 78 is indeed the car I have been looking at. I am thinking I might buy it, just so I can clean it up and fix a few things and sell for a little profit and enjoy driving for a little while. I have a feeling the 75 HP is going to frustrate me. My last diesel was a 90 2.5 Turbo. That car will be a ROCKET compared to this one. As far as the SDL goes, it looks like it has had some interesting and non-matching paint work done. Probably not a bad price if it has been kept up. But, 25 MPG doesn't seem like enough to justify the huge markup of diesel over gas. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheels?
I had them listed on eBay for $249.99, so currently $250obo plus shipping. I will send pictures offlist to anyone who is interested. Here is the information for all who are interested, copied directly from my eBay posting: Up for sale is a good condition, used set of four OZ Mercedes 14 Old Style Alloy Wheels, commonly referred to as 'Bundts' or, in German 'Barock Felgen' amongst the enthusiast community. All four wheels are size 6.5JX14 H2ET30 with a 5x112 bolt pattern. These wheels were taken from my 1977 240D and replaced with steel wheels from the junkyard before I sold it. The reason I took them before the sale of the car is twofold: 1) because OZ is one of the most reputable brands in the wheel manufacturing industry and 2) because of the rim width (6.5); this size is far less common than the typically offered 6 wheel and gives you more options when selecting a tire size. Suggested fitment on Mercedes models is as follows; however, please consult your authorized Mercedes dealer for verification: R107 W115 W116 W123 W126 These wheels ride excellent with minimal vibration. Upon visual inspection, they are free of major defects (e.g. dents, deformation, cracks, etc.). All four valve stems are also in good condition and leak free. Seeing that they are used, there are minor chips here and there, especially where the old wheel weights were mounted (see pictures); however, there is no curb rash to the wheel lip. Although four center caps are included, one of the center caps is missing the retaining clip. In addition, they could probably use a good cleaning. :-) The identification stamps on the inside of the wheels are as follows: O.Z TYP-RC M3 6 1/2JX14 H2 ET30 Made in Italy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheels? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, TE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a very nice set of used Bundt's for sale. 14 X 6.5 ET30. They will fit perfectly on a W115 and the 6.5 rim width gives you more flexibility when choosing a tire size. What have you been trying to get out of them? EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid 190D ac
Gotta look for leaks then. Check the shaft seal, although that will prevent a good vac, unlike a cracked evaporator or condenser. Also check for a leaking servo on the expansion valve, they crack too. Drives you nuts, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spork plugs
Valve stem seals are the first suspect, but I'd check valve to guide clearance when replace the seals. If the valve stem will move sideways in the guide when off the seat enough to feel it, the guide is shot. I've also seen guides loose in the head, what a scary thought. You CAN replace them in situ if you are very careful with the next size oversize. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Injection pump for W115 300D
My brother wants to replace the injection pump on his 300D -- on plunger set spills fuel all the time, no matter what the engine crank angle is, so I'm thinking it's toast (could just be seals, but it's expensive to find out). I know these are rather uncommon, but if anyone has one for sale, please let me know! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I should buy this
it'll hold up with care. how much is it selling for? On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should buy that caddy! Run the engine until it dies, and then put a turbocharged 606 in there. I would bet that it's heavier than a 300SDL. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injection pump for W115 300D
http://mercedessource.com/search/node/injection+pump -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Injection pump for W115 300D My brother wants to replace the injection pump on his 300D -- on plunger set spills fuel all the time, no matter what the engine crank angle is, so I'm thinking it's toast (could just be seals, but it's expensive to find out). I know these are rather uncommon, but if anyone has one for sale, please let me know! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injection pump for W115 300D
Oops - looked one step further and note they say they are out of stock. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Injection pump for W115 300D My brother wants to replace the injection pump on his 300D -- on plunger set spills fuel all the time, no matter what the engine crank angle is, so I'm thinking it's toast (could just be seals, but it's expensive to find out). I know these are rather uncommon, but if anyone has one for sale, please let me know! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?
and here I am utterly without a tree farm. EdB Try mulberry trees. A sapling this year will be a twenty footer next year. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT With plenty of mulberry weeds in the yard... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Super 190E deal (no affiliation) $1500
whats such a good deal about it? Tyler Backman wrote: Look here: http://corvallis.craigslist.org/car/708283773.html I'd buy it, except I only buy cars with a diesel engine and a manual transmission.. This has neither. Tyler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 6:43 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid 190D ac
expansion valve is new Peter Frederick wrote: Gotta look for leaks then. Check the shaft seal, although that will prevent a good vac, unlike a cracked evaporator or condenser. Also check for a leaking servo on the expansion valve, they crack too. Drives you nuts, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 6:43 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I should buy this
I dont know, read the ad Gary Hurst wrote: it'll hold up with care. how much is it selling for? On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should buy that caddy! Run the engine until it dies, and then put a turbocharged 606 in there. I would bet that it's heavier than a 300SDL. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 6:43 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Super 190E deal (no affiliation) $1500
Because it's in good shape, and they'd probably take a ridiculously low offer? Tyler On Jul 10, 2008, at 5:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: whats such a good deal about it? Tyler Backman wrote: Look here: http://corvallis.craigslist.org/car/708283773.html I'd buy it, except I only buy cars with a diesel engine and a manual transmission.. This has neither. Tyler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
