[MBZ] Free Speech?
This is Bushtopia, we don't need any steenkin' Free Speech. http://www.srpressgazette.com/news/aclu_5047___article.html/atf_judge.html Judge approves ACLU lawsuit against ATF Lawsuit Claims ATF’s Unlawful Retaliation for Free Speech 2008-10-03 12:07:00 Jeni Senter ACLU Director of Communications Brandon Hensler says the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida received an early victory today when Senior Federal Judge Lacey A. Collier denied the ATF’s motions for summary judgment in Kilpatrick v. U.S. The ACLU filed the case on April 18, 2006, on behalf of Karen J. Kilpatrick, who claimed that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) violated her Free Speech rights. Kilpatrick was driving her blue van in Pensacola on April 19, 2004, with the slogans “Remember the Children of Waco” and “Boo ATF” written on some of the windows when she was pulled over by police for questioning by the ATF. The ACLU argues in the lawsuit that her First Amendment Rights to Free Speech and her Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure were violated when officers detained her for an hour, searched her car without consent, and ordered her to remove the writing on the side of her van. “The ATF’s actions were unconstitutional and there was no legal justification to stop and question Ms. Kilpatrick. We believe that the ATF was trying to silence Ms. Kilpatrick and the 911 call substantiates this position,” said Bert Oram, ACLU cooperating counsel. “We are confident that we can win this case once the facts are demonstrated and we are pleased that we will be able to make our case in court,” he says. Counsel for Kilpatrick v. The United States of America are Bert Oram, ACLU cooperating attorney; and Benjamin Stevenson, ACLU of Florida staff attorney in Pensacola. The MP3 file of the 911 call and a PDF copy of the Order on Summary Judgment can be viewed at: http://www.aclufl.org/pdfs/Kilpatrick-SJ.pdf. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What to do with that old rusty hood you just replaced!
Your wife will love this artistic expression in your living room, and derive Benz pleasure while sitting at home as well as driving! http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/10/car_hoods_make_good_coffe.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 I would leave the tri-star on it too. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spoof of the week
No! The massive socialist policies of FDR prolonged the depression, and exacerbated the effect. The liberal spin machine was at least as effective in the 30s and 40s as it is now. We have been told for decades that FDR was the saviour of the world, but the US economy had endured depressions before, and each time except when FDR's socialism was put in place, bounced back quickly. FDR managed to drag out a depression to 11 years. If he were alive today my dad would be 90. He cursed FDR's socialism every time the name of Roosevelt came up. He should know, he lived through it. Roosevelt had to get us into WWII to get us out of his prolonged depression. At 09:45 PM 10/5/2008, you wrote: But did the new deal get us through until the Japs bombed Pearl harbor? On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WWII got us out of the Depression... not the New Deal. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More trivia
A buddy of mine who is a PhD immunology prof/researcher taught his kids one of those, and uses an alternative method himself. He studied the shoe-knot options in detail, tried various methods, and selected the one he thought best. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In keeping with this forum's facination with trivia, I submit the following; http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knots.htm RLE ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News amp; more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euan
I don't know if it can be fitted. Someone else will have to answer that to be sure but if it was mine I would try. The section of the back panel that holds the tach is a separate piece. It would seem reasonable to me that you could replace the one with the other. Where the slight difficulty comes in is the wiring. You would also probably have to add a Crank position sensor and the electronic part that translates the pulses for use with the tach. You should be able to get all of this from a donor car and install it. I did a similar switch on the jeep a couple of years after I got it. It was a bit more involved as I had to get the whole instrument cluster with tach and that then involved a bit of fancy wiring changes for some of the indicator lights as the only one I could find was from a 4wd. You shouldn't have any problems like that in this case as it is after all a MB which I'm pretty sure has a more rational design behind it. ;-) I hope someone who has done this will be able to chime in on that. I think Jim mentioned with the springs in the clutch disk should also be looked at. I seem to remember that I got a cheap clutch disk one time with bad springs in it. The springs lost their spring rather quickly and I had a similar problem as yours till I replaced the disk. Running the rpms a bit higher seemed to help there so you might try using a bit higher engine speed and thus a lower gear. I usually use third at 50kph (30mph) in town with the jeep which also has a 5 speed attached to a 4cyl so it is also rather under powered. Running the engine too slow in gear (lugging) can cause a bit of shuddering and jumping. Do try to check the transmission mount as when that goes bad the torque can bounce the rear of the transmission around when those pulses of the cylinders firing hit, especially at low engine speeds. Manfred Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:15:08 +1300 From: Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Euan Hi Manfred My wagon doesn't have a tachometer unfortunately. I'd much rather have one of those than the clock the size of Big Ben. Can a clock/tacho dial be retro-fitted ? Have you checked to see if the transmission mount is still good? The transmission mount has been replaced in the past, without making any difference. This shuddering, juddering business has been a feature of the wagon since Day One (which for me was 29000 miles on the clock). Thanks for the interest Euan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Debate
Gary wrote (regarding the query who committed treason): i think it was snook. That made me laugh, Gary. But, I am in a great mood. Nothing could get me down, today. Mizzou beat the crap out of the old Nebraska Cornholers. 52-17. It was the first time in 30 years that Mizzou has won in Lincoln. We have also won the last 4 of games against Nebraska. Mizzou is also ranked #2 in the country! We will be #1 if Texas beats Oklahoma this weekend. Donald H. Snook 1990 Volvo 240DL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Debate
And legally, look at Hitler's rise to power. My problem was not what Bush would do with Patriot Act, but how future Presidents might further the abuse. -Rolf Wonko the Sane wrote: Loss of freedom by a people is historically not the result of a catastrophic act, but rather the byproduct of the *gradual* erosion of liberties. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolf wrote: The United States of America is no longer a free country. The fact that you can make such a stupid statement critical of the government proves that you are wrong about this not being a free country. If it weren't you would be rounded up for such criticism and shown what it is really like to not have freedom. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Debate
According to some residents in Guantanamo Bay, he is the judge and jury. -Rolf Loren Faeth wrote: Last time I looked, G.W was not a judge At 07:31 PM 10/3/2008, you wrote: Oh -- like Dubya hasn't practiced that for almost eight years? If you will abort, your nomination is aborted. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I noticed that too. I thought: Surely he wasnt admitting to promoting judicial activism! I must have misunderstood. Brian -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Debate
Not as long as we still have liberals teaching. I think its a real shame that the war of northern aggression is not allowed to be taught in GA schools. -Rolf LarryT wrote: Well, that's encouraging. I feared it had been minimalized. Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Debate My youngest graduated from HS three years ago - he and his three sisters before him all had significant study of the Constitution. I still have several copies around the house. I even have one on an iPod Touch! On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:39 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote if enough people understood the Constitution Hey ya'll - anyone know much the Constitution is taught in school these days? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: fruit drier
Jim Cathey bought a fruit drier (9 screened shelves in a big box) some years ago for $6 at the thrift shop . . . If it is a Ronco food dehydrator, throw it away! Many of the older models had a problem with a shutoff switch. The switch wouldn't open wide enough and it caused arcing and eventually the overheat shut-off switch would not shut off and they caught fire. We represented some people who had one of these and it burned down the house. There were LOTS of fires. If it is a Ronco, get rid of it. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euan
Sounds to me like someone didn't realign the flywheel when the clutch was replaced (if it was replaced). I found that lowering the transmission a bit at the rear helped with my shuddering. It may also be your flex disks. Here in US the autos don't have dampener. I got my 4spd conversion from a euro 300d. I have no vibrations related to the drive train. Are you using the thicker trans mount? My current theory is that at lower RPMs more torque is being applied to the drive train and causing the DS to bend more at the u joint. This is a common issue with most om617 and manual trans setups. What kind of rear end is on it? -Rolf Euan wrote: This is dangerous, Rolf. I could bore you cross-eyed on this subject. The wagon was manufactured with this transmission. The PO (a Brit padre with an RAF Tornado squadron in Holland) selected that option at the Dutch assembly plant he toured with his options tick-sheet. I bought the wagon from him after he emigrated to the Colonies in 1987. It had 29000 miles on it then. Because I like to *drive* my cars, I particularly wanted the manual transmission and was very lucky indeed to find this one. 300TDs are rare here and most are auto trans. It was for these reasons, I suspect, that *all* the dealers I spoke to about the asking price said the same thing: It's a diesel! For God's sake, man, forget it! It's non-turbo? Are you serious? Manual transmission?!! guffaw It's a dog! Don't touch it. Well, I did and it ain't. But it does have a few peculiarities which I suspect you auto-trans drivers won't be familiar with (or would tolerate). These may be generic to manual trans 300TDs: First, and most obviously, the engine is sensitive to low revs. Which means that revs always have to kept high, especially in gears 3-5. If not revving adequately, the transmission gives you instant feedback in the form of juddering. I'm told this is something to do with the fly-wheel but I'm not qualified to comment on that. This feature of the wagon appears to be a design flaw. Although I have learned to adjust revs and gear shifting to avoid this feedback, it's the single-most disappointing aspect of this otherwise charming wagon. Second, the harmonic damper on the short driveshaft is twice the mass of your auto dampers. So, the rubber spokes work harder and fracture more readily. Because the manual trans TDs are relatively few, it's been *extremely* difficult to find replacement dampers (MB does not sell them without the full driveshaft). If the juddering was bad with the damper intact, it's unbearable with no damper at all. Third, in my wagon, the gearing is exceptionally long-legged. This is a car built for cruising the autobahns, not suburbia. So, to stay within the 50kph urban speed limits here, it's necessary to jockey up and down from 3rd to 4th gear all the time, to keep the dreaded feedback at bay. Apart from these issues, and the normal aches and pains of late adolescence, this wagon is marvellous. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 213K mi Interesting, tell me more. Was this a DIY conversion? I saw a 300TD 5spd @ the Stuttgart MBZ Museum. It was beautiful. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: fruit drier
If it is a Ronco food dehydrator, throw it away! No, nothing Ronco. There's no plastic, it's a big wooden box with aluminum trays with fiberglass screening. Metal fan blade, porcelain heater socket, etc. Pretty well built if you ask me. I filled it with split prune halves last night, it's out in the garage cooking away. (I don't think the thermostat works anymore, the freon bulb may have lost some of its charge.) According to the Kill-a-watt, it seems to have had the heating element on all night so far. No fire! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Notice the date of this article http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260sec=spon=partner=permalinkexprod=permalink Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Free Speech?
Since the 100years Iraq War debacle, I have cursed the fact that I voted for GB anytime I see anything like this. ) %#)#$)_)% (# [EMAIL PROTECTED])#*$ #$)@$#% BUSH! Luther Mitch Haley wrote: This is Bushtopia, we don't need any steenkin' Free Speech. http://www.srpressgazette.com/news/aclu_5047___article.html/atf_judge.html Judge approves ACLU lawsuit against ATF Lawsuit Claims ATF’s Unlawful Retaliation for Free Speech 2008-10-03 12:07:00 Jeni Senter ACLU Director of Communications Brandon Hensler says the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida received an early victory today when Senior Federal Judge Lacey A. Collier denied the ATF’s motions for summary judgment in Kilpatrick v. U.S. The ACLU filed the case on April 18, 2006, on behalf of Karen J. Kilpatrick, who claimed that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) violated her Free Speech rights. Kilpatrick was driving her blue van in Pensacola on April 19, 2004, with the slogans “Remember the Children of Waco” and “Boo ATF” written on some of the windows when she was pulled over by police for questioning by the ATF. The ACLU argues in the lawsuit that her First Amendment Rights to Free Speech and her Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure were violated when officers detained her for an hour, searched her car without consent, and ordered her to remove the writing on the side of her van. “The ATF’s actions were unconstitutional and there was no legal justification to stop and question Ms. Kilpatrick. We believe that the ATF was trying to silence Ms. Kilpatrick and the 911 call substantiates this position,” said Bert Oram, ACLU cooperating counsel. “We are confident that we can win this case once the facts are demonstrated and we are pleased that we will be able to make our case in court,” he says. Counsel for Kilpatrick v. The United States of America are Bert Oram, ACLU cooperating attorney; and Benjamin Stevenson, ACLU of Florida staff attorney in Pensacola. The MP3 file of the 911 call and a PDF copy of the Order on Summary Judgment can be viewed at: http://www.aclufl.org/pdfs/Kilpatrick-SJ.pdf. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Your better off starting with the '78 Congress. -Rolf Luther wrote: Notice the date of this article http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260sec=spon=partner=permalinkexprod=permalink Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Wonderful. This crap is tied to the year of my birth? That sucks Luther Rolf wrote: Your better off starting with the '78 Congress. -Rolf Luther wrote: Notice the date of this article http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260sec=spon=partner=permalinkexprod=permalink Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
It's a great idea in theory. As with capitalism and communism, ideas are great in theory. In reality greed and corruption changes everything. Easing requirements to first time buyers is great. I got my house under it. The problem lies when mortgages are created that the person has no hope in paying. I got a cheap enough house so that I can pay the mortgage even on unemployment. A home is what you make of it, a house is just sticks and stones. Both buyers and lenders should have been held accountable. There is no doubt in my mind that we are quickly headed to the bottom of a recession and possibly a depression. -Rolf Luther wrote: Wonderful. This crap is tied to the year of my birth? That sucks Luther Rolf wrote: Your better off starting with the '78 Congress. -Rolf Luther wrote: Notice the date of this article http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260sec=spon=partner=permalinkexprod=permalink Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: fruit drier
But wait! There's more! Call in the next 30 minutes and DSnook will throw in a FREE legal opinion! That's right, entirely FREE! (Shipping, handling, and usual overhead and GA charges apply)... --R Donald Snook wrote: Jim Cathey bought a fruit drier (9 screened shelves in a big box) some years ago for $6 at the thrift shop . . . If it is a Ronco food dehydrator, throw it away! Many of the older models had a problem with a shutoff switch. The switch wouldn't open wide enough and it caused arcing and eventually the overheat shut-off switch would not shut off and they caught fire. We represented some people who had one of these and it burned down the house. There were LOTS of fires. If it is a Ronco, get rid of it. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 trim on C pillar
Hello Hendrik You tried to help me a little when I had a trim removal question. Thank you. No one else tried. I suppose they didn't/don't know. I think you are talking about the short piece of trim, maybe 30 cm long and 3 cm wide, mounted where the roof meets the rest of the body behind the back door. Has a painted center section. If so, I have one off and one on that needs to come off. In a week or so I'll know how to get it off undamaged, and if that's the piece you are asking about, I'll share with you. I can tell you now that it is merely a matter of knowing what one is doing, and does not require any magic or cutting. Robert Bigham, enabler of ed_baldhead Message: 15 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:28:43 +0930 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] W123 trim on C pillar To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi folks, gotta remove the trim that sits on the bottom of the C pillar, anyone got a clue on how to do this without the use of angle grinders or gas axe? Hendrik with a 123 that needs some loving ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Rolf wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that we are quickly headed to the bottom of a recession and possibly a depression. We were headed that way a week ago. Now instead of being a year or two away, the bottom has been pushed farther into the future, and the recovery from that bottom will be far slower too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Politicians are great at kicking the can down the road. Would be a grand idea to kick them all down the road, get a whole new crowd to mess things up in new and inventive ways. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that we are quickly headed to the bottom of a recession and possibly a depression. We were headed that way a week ago. Now instead of being a year or two away, the bottom has been pushed farther into the future, and the recovery from that bottom will be far slower too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Convertible Top Sale
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[MBZ] Retrofitting Tachometer to Euan's 300TD
Been there - done that, it is not difficult at all. Trick is to find a donor vehicle that has the RPM sensor mounted on front of engine to pick up the signal from a pin in your crank-balancer. I'm not sure what the break-point is but later years have the sensor at the flywheel end. I bought the whole set-up from a fellow parting out an '81 300SD: Sensor with mount and wire to tach. amplifier, tach amplfier and mount with wires (cut) to fuse box and tachometer, and tach w/ integrated clock. Only took me a few hours to install the whole works, and I was going slow. Pretty much plug-and-play. All the holes for the mounts were pre-existing, and the pin was in my crank-balancer (it is needed for the diagnostic tests that call for measuring RPM). -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb car in Atlanta
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/867061723.html Sound like you could talk him down a few hundred even. Perfect 4spd conversion candidate. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting Tachometer to Euan's 300TD
85 is when they start reading from the trans bell housing. Max Dillon wrote: Been there - done that, it is not difficult at all. Trick is to find a donor vehicle that has the RPM sensor mounted on front of engine to pick up the signal from a pin in your crank-balancer. I'm not sure what the break-point is but later years have the sensor at the flywheel end. I bought the whole set-up from a fellow parting out an '81 300SD: Sensor with mount and wire to tach. amplifier, tach amplfier and mount with wires (cut) to fuse box and tachometer, and tach w/ integrated clock. Only took me a few hours to install the whole works, and I was going slow. Pretty much plug-and-play. All the holes for the mounts were pre-existing, and the pin was in my crank-balancer (it is needed for the diagnostic tests that call for measuring RPM). -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Then again : http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssFinancialServicesAndRealEstateNews/idUSN0639153920081006 Thats a very good sign or wishful thinking. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: Politicians are great at kicking the can down the road. Would be a grand idea to kick them all down the road, get a whole new crowd to mess things up in new and inventive ways. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that we are quickly headed to the bottom of a recession and possibly a depression. We were headed that way a week ago. Now instead of being a year or two away, the bottom has been pushed farther into the future, and the recovery from that bottom will be far slower too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL: this wagon is a real traveller
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/868582522.html Haiti? Euro manual trans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Convertible Top Sale
That reminds me, did Kleb's 107 make it to Germany OK, or did Ike wipe it out on the docks of Houston? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: fruit drier
Jim Cathey bought a fruit drier (9 screened shelves in a big box) some years ago for $6 at the thrift shop . . . Donald said: If it is a Ronco, get rid of it. Or re-engineer it... *smile* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird attack of sluggishness - W123 300TD
Seems unlikely, but where should I look? On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes...could be crossed in the engine bay or by the tank. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:43:42 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird attack of sluggishness - W123 300TD maybe the supply and return line is backwards. If that happens, will run out of fuel before it gets to the bottom. andrew strasfogel wrote: Folks, I added 3 gals of diesel last night, making the tank roughly 1/3 full, and then this morning went for my usual 12 mile spin on 270 to the squash club. Exiting uphill on the cloverleaf ramp, I had no problems. So the attack of sluggishness is definitely associated with low fuel reserves (less than 1/4 full). On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question - is it normal for there to be a release of air (or vacuum) when I remove the fuel filler cap? A little, in my experience. But a great gushing whoosh is not so good. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird attack of sluggishness - W123 300TD
Drivers side wall into the prefilter and from the cigar hose. Two hard lines on the fender wall. This is commonly done to blow out the tank filter, sometimes people forget to put it back. -Rolf andrew strasfogel wrote: Seems unlikely, but where should I look? On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes...could be crossed in the engine bay or by the tank. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:43:42 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird attack of sluggishness - W123 300TD maybe the supply and return line is backwards. If that happens, will run out of fuel before it gets to the bottom. andrew strasfogel wrote: Folks, I added 3 gals of diesel last night, making the tank roughly 1/3 full, and then this morning went for my usual 12 mile spin on 270 to the squash club. Exiting uphill on the cloverleaf ramp, I had no problems. So the attack of sluggishness is definitely associated with low fuel reserves (less than 1/4 full). On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question - is it normal for there to be a release of air (or vacuum) when I remove the fuel filler cap? A little, in my experience. But a great gushing whoosh is not so good. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting Tachometer to Euan's 300TD
actually it was 84 Rolf wrote: 85 is when they start reading from the trans bell housing. Max Dillon wrote: Been there - done that, it is not difficult at all. Trick is to find a donor vehicle that has the RPM sensor mounted on front of engine to pick up the signal from a pin in your crank-balancer. I'm not sure what the break-point is but later years have the sensor at the flywheel end. I bought the whole set-up from a fellow parting out an '81 300SD: Sensor with mount and wire to tach. amplifier, tach amplfier and mount with wires (cut) to fuse box and tachometer, and tach w/ integrated clock. Only took me a few hours to install the whole works, and I was going slow. Pretty much plug-and-play. All the holes for the mounts were pre-existing, and the pin was in my crank-balancer (it is needed for the diagnostic tests that call for measuring RPM). -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Convertible Top Sale
have not heard a thing Mitch Haley wrote: That reminds me, did Kleb's 107 make it to Germany OK, or did Ike wipe it out on the docks of Houston? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
Could the wiring be flaky? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
I suppose anything is possible, although its about 99% certain its the amp. andrew strasfogel wrote: Could the wiring be flaky? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting Tachometer to Euan's 300TD
84 Cali or 84 all? W123 or W126? I was under the impression W123 it was 85 all and 84 cali only that were like this. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: actually it was 84 Rolf wrote: 85 is when they start reading from the trans bell housing. Max Dillon wrote: Been there - done that, it is not difficult at all. Trick is to find a donor vehicle that has the RPM sensor mounted on front of engine to pick up the signal from a pin in your crank-balancer. I'm not sure what the break-point is but later years have the sensor at the flywheel end. I bought the whole set-up from a fellow parting out an '81 300SD: Sensor with mount and wire to tach. amplifier, tach amplfier and mount with wires (cut) to fuse box and tachometer, and tach w/ integrated clock. Only took me a few hours to install the whole works, and I was going slow. Pretty much plug-and-play. All the holes for the mounts were pre-existing, and the pin was in my crank-balancer (it is needed for the diagnostic tests that call for measuring RPM). -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper Ball Joints
Thx Guys - Jim and Barry, Yup, I'm wondering what Ill need when/if I need to replace them on my W124. I need to check them - see what condition the boots are in and see if there's any indication of movement/abrasion/scraping going on. Since MB replaces the UPC instead of replacing the UBJ, does that indicate they believe its a long life unit or they are willing to spend customers money when replacement is needed? Probably both ;-) Anyway - my next step is inspection - to see if I can find the source of the clunk I hear - unless it's my imagination. Sounds like replacing the UL BJs are not as bad as I feared. Thanks for that -- Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper Ball Joints Larry - Jim was doing this on his 107 but it sounds like your may not be??? I did all 4 ball joints on my 107 about 8 months ago. To swap out the uppers I removed the rivets like Jim did, except I drilled mine out, and borrowed a ball joint press kit from AutoZone for the lowers. Not too tough. To answer your question, the smaller upper ball joints are riveted to the control arm. M/B only services them with a new control arm ...major $$$... but you can remove the rivets and buy aftermarket joints that bolt in place. The larger lower ball joints are just a press fit in the lower control arm and are removed and replaced by special tools but as I said I was able to get the job done with a generic ball joint press kit. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper Ball Joints Excellent Job Jim! There's a large ball joint in the lower CA - is the one you changed similar? Only reason I ask is most places talk of needing special tools to get the old BJ out. Sounds like you avoided that - at least in your MB. Wonder if all are like that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting Tachometer to Euan's 300TD
84 all 123 126 Rolf wrote: 84 Cali or 84 all? W123 or W126? I was under the impression W123 it was 85 all and 84 cali only that were like this. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: actually it was 84 Rolf wrote: 85 is when they start reading from the trans bell housing. Max Dillon wrote: Been there - done that, it is not difficult at all. Trick is to find a donor vehicle that has the RPM sensor mounted on front of engine to pick up the signal from a pin in your crank-balancer. I'm not sure what the break-point is but later years have the sensor at the flywheel end. I bought the whole set-up from a fellow parting out an '81 300SD: Sensor with mount and wire to tach. amplifier, tach amplfier and mount with wires (cut) to fuse box and tachometer, and tach w/ integrated clock. Only took me a few hours to install the whole works, and I was going slow. Pretty much plug-and-play. All the holes for the mounts were pre-existing, and the pin was in my crank-balancer (it is needed for the diagnostic tests that call for measuring RPM). -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
While we're on the subject, where can I purchase a rebuilt amp for a decent price? I have two cores. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I suppose anything is possible, although its about 99% certain its the amp. andrew strasfogel wrote: Could the wiring be flaky? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
rusty andrew strasfogel wrote: While we're on the subject, where can I purchase a rebuilt amp for a decent price? I have two cores. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I suppose anything is possible, although its about 99% certain its the amp. andrew strasfogel wrote: Could the wiring be flaky? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1710 - Release Date: 10/6/2008 9:23 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
How about $172.50 ? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD While we're on the subject, where can I purchase a rebuilt amp for a decent price? I have two cores. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I suppose anything is possible, although its about 99% certain its the amp. andrew strasfogel wrote: Could the wiring be flaky? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] this is nice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Mercedes-300-D-Turbo-diesel-4-Speed-Manual-TRM-European_W0QQitemZ110296567387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
A euro 4 speed? Surely it's not a turbo then. He doesn't show any pics of the engine... Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Mercedes-300-D-Turbo-diesel-4-Speed-Manual-TRM-European_W0QQitemZ110296567387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
no, it wont be unless somebody swapped the engine or soemthing Allan Streib wrote: A euro 4 speed? Surely it's not a turbo then. He doesn't show any pics of the engine... Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Mercedes-300-D-Turbo-diesel-4-Speed-Manual-TRM-European_W0QQitemZ110296567387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1710 - Release Date: 10/6/2008 9:23 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
OOH! It is a 10, not a 12! Way cool! (123 130 10 xx) At 03:20 PM 10/6/2008, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Mercedes-300-D-Turbo-diesel-4-Speed-Manual-TRM-European_W0QQitemZ110296567387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
I am not even sure what that means. He certainly should point out it is a swapped engine. No engine bay pics?.. -Rolf Loren Faeth wrote: OOH! It is a 10, not a 12! Way cool! (123 130 10 xx) At 03:20 PM 10/6/2008, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Mercedes-300-D-Turbo-diesel-4-Speed-Manual-TRM-European_W0QQitemZ110296567387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
Loren Faeth wrote: OOH! It is a 10, not a 12! Way cool! (123 130 10 xx) Ya, the ten is manny (12 is auto), but the 123.130 is not turbo. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
Do I get extra credit for sending you two cores? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about $172.50 ? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD While we're on the subject, where can I purchase a rebuilt amp for a decent price? I have two cores. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose anything is possible, although its about 99% certain its the amp. andrew strasfogel wrote: Could the wiring be flaky? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
Andrew, Your cruise control is being remotely controlled by people in black suits in black helocopters. You see it is part of that vast right wing conspiracy Hillary always referred to! MMMAH HA HA HA At 02:23 PM 10/6/2008, you wrote: Could the wiring be flaky? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: your amp is flaky, does not have anything to do with washing the engine andrew strasfogel wrote: Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This is quite an ebay listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-MBZ-500SEL-Black-on-Black-One-Owner-Immaculate_W0QQitemZ220289587586QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-MBZ-500SEL-Black-on-Black-One-Owner-Immaculate_W0QQitemZ220289587586QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Here's a nice car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Only-44k-ORG-miles-Clean-CARFAX-showing-Services_W0QQitemZ150300523231QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is quite an ebay listing
I wonder if Princess Di's had the seat belt option? --R Donald Snook wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-MBZ-500SEL-Black-on-Black-One-Owner-Immaculate_W0QQitemZ220289587586QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-MBZ-500SEL-Black-on-Black-One-Owner-Immaculate_W0QQitemZ220289587586QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
Rolf wrote: I am not even sure what that means. He certainly should point out it is a swapped engine. No engine bay pics?.. The engine was not swapped, or at least, it was originally a 617.912 non-turbo (123.130). The eighth digit in the chassis number indicates the transmission type - 0 is manual, 1 is hydrak, 2 is automatic. In this case it is a 716.005 four-speed. Nice looking car. Sold new in Belgium. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
Angie loves it. I think the interior looks like somebody's Granny's sitting room... Its in my watch list. I really can't afford to have it but -Curt Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:20:53 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] this is nice To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Mercedes-300-D-Turbo-diesel-4-Speed-Manual-TRM-European_W0QQitemZ110296567387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs
I know this is a weird one but offhand does anybody know what wrench to use to remove sparkplugs from a Model A Ford? I think its 1 1/8 but I'm not sure. I need to buy one but can't remember which to get. My Dad built a swamp buggy back in the '60s, the engine is a Model A Ford industrial and of course its stuck. The trans is free as are (shock) the brakes. If I can free up the engine I think the whole thing will get going fairly easy. Its at my camp in northern Maine but theres a cheap tool dealer here It has to be a wrench, due to a bad design the gas tank sits directly over the engine limiting the space above the spark plugs, theres no room to fit a socket. The gas tank design is going to change to a saddle tank at some point after I get the thing going. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
That is very nice. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angie loves it. I think the interior looks like somebody's Granny's sitting room... Its in my watch list. I really can't afford to have it but -Curt Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:20:53 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] this is nice To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Mercedes-300-D-Turbo-diesel-4-Speed-Manual-TRM-European_W0QQitemZ110296567387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is quite an ebay listing
Wish my garage looked like that! Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] This is quite an ebay listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-MBZ-500SEL-Black-on-Black-One-Owner-Immaculate_W0QQitemZ220289587586QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs
I have a box of old tools from my father-I am sure there is Model A wrench in the box-it has Ford script on it-but also there is the regular spark plug one. . I think 1 or 1 1/8 would be a good guess. Don't see any on e-bay. Ford also issued an adjustable wrench with the model A. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:31 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs I know this is a weird one but offhand does anybody know what wrench to use to remove sparkplugs from a Model A Ford? I think its 1 1/8 but I'm not sure. I need to buy one but can't remember which to get. My Dad built a swamp buggy back in the '60s, the engine is a Model A Ford industrial and of course its stuck. The trans is free as are (shock) the brakes. If I can free up the engine I think the whole thing will get going fairly easy. Its at my camp in northern Maine but theres a cheap tool dealer here It has to be a wrench, due to a bad design the gas tank sits directly over the engine limiting the space above the spark plugs, theres no room to fit a socket. The gas tank design is going to change to a saddle tank at some point after I get the thing going. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Debate
Fat chance! We will be #1 if Texas beats Oklahoma this weekend. Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Free Speech?
At least you are learning form your mistakes --- On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the 100years Iraq War debacle, I have cursed the fact that I voted for GB anytime I see anything like this. ) %#)#$)_)% (# [EMAIL PROTECTED])#*$ #$)@$#% BUSH! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Amen! NEVER vote for the incumbent! On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Politicians are great at kicking the can down the road. Would be a grand idea to kick them all down the road, get a whole new crowd to mess things up in new and inventive ways. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Convertible Top Sale
Did the check clear? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have not heard a thing Mitch Haley wrote: That reminds me, did Kleb's 107 make it to Germany OK, or did Ike wipe it out on the docks of Houston? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs
I had one of those ford adjustable wrenches. Designed like a monkey wrench, but small and light. At 08:12 PM 10/6/2008, you wrote: I have a box of old tools from my father-I am sure there is Model A wrench in the box-it has Ford script on it-but also there is the regular spark plug one. . I think 1 or 1 1/8 would be a good guess. Don't see any on e-bay. Ford also issued an adjustable wrench with the model A. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:31 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs I know this is a weird one but offhand does anybody know what wrench to use to remove sparkplugs from a Model A Ford? I think its 1 1/8 but I'm not sure. I need to buy one but can't remember which to get. My Dad built a swamp buggy back in the '60s, the engine is a Model A Ford industrial and of course its stuck. The trans is free as are (shock) the brakes. If I can free up the engine I think the whole thing will get going fairly easy. Its at my camp in northern Maine but theres a cheap tool dealer here It has to be a wrench, due to a bad design the gas tank sits directly over the engine limiting the space above the spark plugs, theres no room to fit a socket. The gas tank design is going to change to a saddle tank at some point after I get the thing going. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
The thing that really needs to change is the seniority system in the Congress and Senate. People continue to reelect crooks because they don't want to lose clout by sending a rookie to DC. Seniority practically guarantees more business as usual. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 21:31 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton Amen! NEVER vote for the incumbent! On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Politicians are great at kicking the can down the road. Would be a grand idea to kick them all down the road, get a whole new crowd to mess things up in new and inventive ways. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs
I had one, too. 'Even used it on my '31 Model A coupe/roadster. 'Jaws were not serrated (teeth) like pipe wrench, but wrench had same basic design as monkey/pipe wrench. 'Wonder what happened to my Ford adjustable wrench? Is it here somewhere; 'haven't seen it in YEARS. 'Don't remember size of the Model A plug wrench, but it was big compared to '50s plugs. Wilton - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs I had one of those ford adjustable wrenches. Designed like a monkey wrench, but small and light. At 08:12 PM 10/6/2008, you wrote: I have a box of old tools from my father-I am sure there is Model A wrench in the box-it has Ford script on it-but also there is the regular spark plug one. . I think 1 or 1 1/8 would be a good guess. Don't see any on e-bay. Ford also issued an adjustable wrench with the model A. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:31 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Model A spark plugs I know this is a weird one but offhand does anybody know what wrench to use to remove sparkplugs from a Model A Ford? I think its 1 1/8 but I'm not sure. I need to buy one but can't remember which to get. My Dad built a swamp buggy back in the '60s, the engine is a Model A Ford industrial and of course its stuck. The trans is free as are (shock) the brakes. If I can free up the engine I think the whole thing will get going fairly easy. Its at my camp in northern Maine but theres a cheap tool dealer here It has to be a wrench, due to a bad design the gas tank sits directly over the engine limiting the space above the spark plugs, theres no room to fit a socket. The gas tank design is going to change to a saddle tank at some point after I get the thing going. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
It's probably the amp but could be bad connections. I had a similar problem on my 82 300SD that turned out to be a dirty connection on the back of the speedo assembly that sent the speed signal to the amp. I'd be inclined to try contact cleaner on all the cc connections before trying something hard or expensive. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 14:39 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Or, it could mean that the voters approve of the representation they currently enjoy. You are assuming here that everyone in the Legislature is a crook. I find no data to support the opinion that everyone serving in the Legislative Branch is corrupt. It does, however, read as a good generalization and lemmings will be happy to sign on to the concept. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People continue to reelect crooks because they don't want to lose clout by sending a rookie to DC. Seniority practically guarantees more business as usual. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
Whatever. They are currently enjoying $700B of it right now. More to follow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 22:46 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton Or, it could mean that the voters approve of the representation they currently enjoy. You are assuming here that everyone in the Legislature is a crook. I find no data to support the opinion that everyone serving in the Legislative Branch is corrupt. It does, however, read as a good generalization and lemmings will be happy to sign on to the concept. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People continue to reelect crooks because they don't want to lose clout by sending a rookie to DC. Seniority practically guarantees more business as usual. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
Scott, Do you have any theory as to why washing the engine made the CC work properly? I do not believe in coincidences. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's probably the amp but could be bad connections. I had a similar problem on my 82 300SD that turned out to be a dirty connection on the back of the speedo assembly that sent the speed signal to the amp. I'd be inclined to try contact cleaner on all the cc connections before trying something hard or expensive. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 14:39 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD Here I goeagain. My W123 1983 300td cruise control worked fine on our trip to Montpelier, but after we got back it started acting sporadically. For example, the CC switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. When I released it, the speed would drop back and not engage. I purchased a supposedly good used (not rebuilt) CC amplifier on ebay with a DOA warranty, but after installing it on Saturday and doing a road test I had ZERO CC effect - not even accelerating through use of the switch. I concluded that the unit was even more faulty than the one it replaced, but to make sure, I swapped out the CC servo under the hood for another one off the shelf (supposedly good). The road test yielded identical results. Here's the weird part. I spent a couple hours Sunday spraying oily areas on and under the hood with Simple Green, then scrubbing and spraying with a hose to remove a lot of residual oil from when the PO lost all engine oil through ruptured oil cooler lines. As the paint started to show through all the grime, I also scrubbed the CC servo with Simple Green. Basically, the entire engine compartment got wet, although I didn't do a complete and systematic engine wash. When I drove the car out of the garage, through the alley, and back to its parking palce in front of our house, I tested the CC. Guess what? It now works! WTF cubed. How did water have any effect on the workings of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper Ball Joints
Larry - Remember that I said that we were talking about a 107 chassis and that your 124 may be different. Well after taking a quick look at the manual it's obvious that the 124 has a lower ball joint but it has a shock/strut in place of the upper control arm and ball joint. The manual did talk about a couple of places to look for a clunk. I think it was in a programmed repair section. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper Ball Joints Thx Guys - Jim and Barry, Yup, I'm wondering what Ill need when/if I need to replace them on my W124. I need to check them - see what condition the boots are in and see if there's any indication of movement/abrasion/scraping going on. Since MB replaces the UPC instead of replacing the UBJ, does that indicate they believe its a long life unit or they are willing to spend customers money when replacement is needed? Probably both ;-) Anyway - my next step is inspection - to see if I can find the source of the clunk I hear - unless it's my imagination. Sounds like replacing the UL BJs are not as bad as I feared. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
But then again, the $700 BB could prove to be a moneymaker. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. They are currently enjoying $700B of it right now. More to follow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 22:46 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton Or, it could mean that the voters approve of the representation they currently enjoy. You are assuming here that everyone in the Legislature is a crook. I find no data to support the opinion that everyone serving in the Legislative Branch is corrupt. It does, however, read as a good generalization and lemmings will be happy to sign on to the concept. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People continue to reelect crooks because they don't want to lose clout by sending a rookie to DC. Seniority practically guarantees more business as usual. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But then again, the $700 BB could prove to be a moneymaker. Since the market is below 10,000 for the first time since 2004, it doesn't look like the $700 BB is inspiring much confidence. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheap 87 300E, '86 SEL
Pretty sparse on details http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/867504274.html What do you suppose is the tranny issue with this one? http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/866248131.html Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
I drove the car to band tonight, and I must say that with the new front-end parts the car's handling is _much_ improved. There's a clunking in the rear over bumps and I thought that a couple of potholes felt like they broke the back end loose from the pavement, I wonder if the rear shocks need replacing too? Who knows, I might even start actually liking to drive this car. When we got this car the handling was truly vile, you might even say dangerous. But up front new (well, better) tie rod ends, idler arm bearing shims, steering damper, new front struts and a new ball joint, and in back a replacement drag link, plus a four-wheel alignment and new correct-sized tires and now it's handling pretty well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper Ball Joints
Since MB replaces the UPC instead of replacing the UBJ, does that indicate they believe its a long life unit or they are willing to spend customers money when replacement is needed? Probably both ;-) B. But 201/124 don't have upper ball joints. The strut serves instead. Just the lowers. Anyway - my next step is inspection - to see if I can find the source of the clunk I hear - unless it's my imagination. Could be anything, anything at all. Jack it up good, grab on tight and wiggle hard! How does it handle? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise control mystery, W123 300TD
switch on the steering column would not engage the cruise but would accelerate the car when pressed upwards. It's the amplifier. Specifically, bad solder joints within same. Sure, it _could_ be something else, but of the dozen or so I've repaired only _one_ had anything else wrong with it (and I believe bad joints caused its H-bridge driver to smoke a transistor). The other eleven (or whatever) all did what you describe. Yours varies because going-bad solder joints are very temperature sensitive. Eventually they get worse, and then are bad all the time. Oh, I did have one obviously-flakey column switch, a gentle tap or a hard bump would cancel cruise. And my toddler tried to do a chin-up on one and broke it off, but neither of these were mysteries. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: fruit drier
bought a fruit drier (9 screened shelves in a big box) some years ago for $6 at the thrift shop . . . 24 hours and 9 kWh later the bucket and a half of prunes I put in still aren't fully dry. But they're still pretty tasty, and the garage smells good. Maybe by tomorrow morning? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
