Re: [MBZ] OT Iran

[Gary Hurst]

there are some countries that value free and fair elections more than they
value how many channels they can get gilligan's island on.

the USA is not one of them

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> If anyone is interested there is live and recorded streaming video here
> http://persianq.com/
>
> Things look quite a mess there.
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Dash mat color

[Douglas]

Rit thats it! As I already have the dash mat I'll go with that.. The overlay 
last time I looked was way over priced for me..


Douglas


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" 

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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash mat color


I have a dash mat that I have had for several years and haven't used it, 
since it is light brown. Does anyone know of something simple that I can 
use to dye it black. I have looked for the dye I used to make Tyedye 
tshirts with though cannot find it anymore.


RIT dye?  Fabric store?

Rather than a rug of any sort I'd try the molded plastic Coverlays.
Two of them on our SL's and they look great.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[Mitch Haley]

Craig McCluskey wrote:


What does "slipstreaming" a CD mean?


Rebuilding a prior version install CD with a later service pack update built in.
http://www.howtohaven.com/system/slipstream-xp-service-pack-3.shtml

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Re: [MBZ] Google mail

[Benz Hogs]

And it won't even show up nownot even in the "All Mail" folder.  
Grrr



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Kevin wrote:

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 09:18:23PM -0600, Craig McCluskey wrote:
  

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:07:16 -0500 Benz Hogs 
wrote:


Already checked that, and it's set to deliver a copy to me.  My emails 
appeared fine on the previous email server, so I'm certain this is a 
Google thing...
  

Yup, it's a Google thing. Sorry, I can't help you on that. Maybe Wonko can
help you.



Thought there was something with google's inferior technology that made it
so that your mail to a list didn't show up until it was replied to.

Then again, just about anything that isn't text based like mh is by definition
inferior.


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Re: [MBZ] Google mail

[Kevin]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 09:18:23PM -0600, Craig McCluskey wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:07:16 -0500 Benz Hogs 
> wrote:
> 
> > Already checked that, and it's set to deliver a copy to me.  My emails 
> > appeared fine on the previous email server, so I'm certain this is a 
> > Google thing...
> 
> Yup, it's a Google thing. Sorry, I can't help you on that. Maybe Wonko can
> help you.

Thought there was something with google's inferior technology that made it
so that your mail to a list didn't show up until it was replied to.

Then again, just about anything that isn't text based like mh is by definition
inferior.

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[MBZ] Subject: Re: Safe Mania

[Burt Anderson]

Some years ago I felt I needed a safe place to store things like guns,
cameras, titles, important papers and anything else difficult to replace or
expensive to insure.  I bought my first safe for $50+/-.  I had to hire a
truck with a hydraulic tail gate to get it home.  That cost more than the
safe.  It is about 5 feet tall and weighs hundreds of pounds.  My cellar has
a walkout door with 6 or 7 outside steps to ground level.  I placed a couple
of 10 ft telephone cross arms (2x6 pieces of lumber would work) on the
stairs to slide the safe down, using a block and tackle to safeguard it's
speed down the ramp.  In the cellar it was on its side.  I made a plywood
guide for under the safe, with a couple of pieces of wood to be placed along
side the wheels. Then pried it up with the help of a couple of neighbors,
using large blocks of wood as leverage points and a crowbar. After it gets
to it's point of balance, on it's wheels, it is easy to get up.  In fact you
have to hold it back.  The safe has an inner wall and an outer wall, with
cement of asbestos inside.  It is good for a fire of 1 or 2 hrs+/-.

It didn't take long to fill it up.  I bought another.  Brought this one home
on it's side sticking out the sliding door of a VW bus.  At least I didn't
have to rent a truck.  I have no plans on leaving this house and taking the
safe.  I feel secure because without help and tools it is almost impossible
to take it out of the basement.  The safes are always full.

Although my basement air is relatively dry, I use a desiccant during the
summer months.  Just microwave it after the season and put it back in.  I
think the best place to find a used safe is in the classifieds or
publications filled with classifieds.  The current popularity of gun safes,
makes these old timers more valuable than before.  A simple combination lock
is the best type of locking mechanism.  Not knowledgeable with the new
electronic types.  If you go for a small safe, I would recommend building it
into a wall.  They can be taken out more easily than one that weighs 500
pounds+/-.  With the way businesses are going out of business, there may be
many on the market.



Burt Anderson
Car Nut


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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[WILTON]

Thank you.  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Knoble" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania



Here is a few.



ARE! My sincerest apologies to Wonko and Wilton.

Rick 



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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:13:00 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> 
> I then tried to use my factory restore  disk to install Vista on another
> partition, but instead of asking me which partition, it just threw out
> the partition table, reformatted, and installed.  Say goodbye to the XP
> installation, and even the partition that XP was installed  on.

Yeah, factory restore disks make it "just like it came from the factory,"
which isn't what you want.


> I fixed the partitions again after the Vista install, but XP SP1 can't
> install because it doesn't recognize the disk as partitioned.
> Today I slipstreamed a XP-SP3 CD. Hopefully I can install THAT on a
> blank partition of my 1TB drive tomorrow.

What does "slipstreaming" a CD mean?

FWIW, when I got a second disk for my work Dell laptop and wanted to have
the main disk as Linux and the second one (in a removable drive bay) as
WinXP, I had to shut the computer down, take the computer apart, remove
the first disk, install the second disk, boot the computer and install XP
on the second disk, shut the computer down, swap disks, put the second
disk in the removable drive bay, plug it in, and reboot the computer (to
Linux). M$ doesn't make it easy or play well with others.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Google mail

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:07:16 -0500 Benz Hogs 
wrote:

> Already checked that, and it's set to deliver a copy to me.  My emails 
> appeared fine on the previous email server, so I'm certain this is a 
> Google thing...

Yup, it's a Google thing. Sorry, I can't help you on that. Maybe Wonko can
help you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[Mitch Haley]

Any chance a slipstreamed SP3 CD would install to it?

The symptoms are different than what I've been getting with my 1TB drive.
I installed SP1 onto the drive (it formatted to 127GB), then upgraded XP to SP3, 
and used Linux to redo the partitions. I then tried to use my factory restore 
disk to install Vista on another partition, but instead of asking me which 
partition, it just threw out the partition table, reformatted, and installed. 
Say goodbye to the XP installation, and even the partition that XP was installed 
on.


I fixed the partitions again after the Vista install, but XP SP1 can't install 
because it doesn't recognize the disk as partitioned.
Today I slipstreamed a XP-SP3 CD. Hopefully I can install THAT on a blank 
partition of my 1TB drive tomorrow.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Google mail

[Benz Hogs]

Already checked that, and it's set to deliver a copy to me.  My emails 
appeared fine on the previous email server, so I'm certain this is a 
Google thing...


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Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:01:59 -0500 Benz Hogs 
wrote:

  

Why do my messages to the list never appear in my own inbox?  Is there a
way to change this?



IIRC, there is a setting on the okiebenz.com mail page that you can set to
suppress your own posts or show your own posts.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Google mail

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:01:59 -0500 Benz Hogs 
wrote:

> Why do my messages to the list never appear in my own inbox?  Is there a
> way to change this?

IIRC, there is a setting on the okiebenz.com mail page that you can set to
suppress your own posts or show your own posts.


Craig

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[MBZ] Google mail

[Benz Hogs]

Why do my messages to the list never appear in my own inbox?  Is there a 
way to change this?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[OK Don]

Too many kids, and we were in the worng car. Hopefully the busy son (work
and summer school) will get over here tomorrow and bleed the brakes - so he
can drive the car again --- then we'll be able to come see you.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> well get down here tomorrow and clean my carb.  I though you were stopping
> by on your way home anyway?
>
> --
> OK Don
> Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[Peter Frederick]

Not really, but you can re-partition it and create a new file system.

Low level formatting has been a thing of the past for at least 20  
years now.  All modern drives have one surface used as a servo signal  
for the heads to locate the tracks -- that head cannot write to the  
disk.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT A real used car dealer?

[Allan Streib]

ned kleinhenz  writes:

> Some of you guys probably wheel and deal a lot more cars than I do.
> What does it tell me about the dealer if I can only see a used car by
> appointment?

Sounds odd.  I guess he could be a very "part time" dealer who has a few
cars for sale but does not spend all day sitting at the lot waiting for
people to stop in.

Allan

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[MBZ] Sheep, don't mess with them

[RELNGSON]

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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[Loren Faeth]

Dirt in carb.  Clean it and install a small inline filter between the 
tank and carb.


At 10:04 AM 6/20/2009, you wrote:
Yesterday I went to jump on my riding 2 cyl mower to mow the 
lawn.  Have already used it several times this season.  Started it 
and it ran for a minute although bad then died.  Long story short, 
it was out of gas.
OK, so I fill it back up.  Thing does not want to start.  Finally 
gave it a little shot of starting fluid and it starts, but does not 
want to run very good.  It will not hardly rev up, its like it gets 
bogged down.  If you slowly rev it up with the throttle it will go, 
but just move it to full throttle fast, it bogs down.  Its got what 
I guess it the throttle plate that will move back and forth on its 
own as its running, and if you sort of "butterfly" this by hand it 
will run OK, but as soon as you try to put a load on the motor, it 
will bog down and die.  Also, when you do getting it running with no 
load, it surges up and down while that throttle plate moves back and forth.
So, anybody know anything about lawn mower engines?  Im thinking 
maybe the carb got gummed up or something, so I messed with it 
spraying carb cleaner down it while messing with the throttle to 
keep it running.
Seems to have a helped slightly but still cant run it with a 
load.  Is there some adjustment to the carb that I need to make?  I 
see a screw there that looks like it adjusts something, will give 
that a try in a minute.


--
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Re: [MBZ] OT R134 A/C problem

[Loren Faeth]

It is on the high pressure side, between condenser and evaporator, so 
I think  that makes it an R/D.


Just guessing, but since there was no filter installed on the low 
pressure side to catch the shrapnel, my guess is that the new 
compressor is junk now.


At 09:51 AM 6/20/2009, you wrote:

Does this system use a reciever/dryer or an accumulator?  The R/D is
on the high pressure side, between condenser and evaporator, and
there is an expansion valve on the evaporator.  An accumulator is on
the low pressure side of the evaporator, and has a pressure switch on
it (GM style system) and will have a fixed orifice tube in the
evaporator inlet instead of a temp controlled expansion valve.

I suppose the accumulator could plug, but it's unlikely.

You should also check to make sure the heater valve is not on --
coolant circulating in the heater core will give you hot vent temps
too!  I konw, I need to replace the monovalve on the TE due to this
problem, and had to replace on on the new 300d, too -- leaks when
off, and doesn't open properly when on, so you got both bad cooling
and poor heating!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[Allan Streib]

LWB250  writes:

> Have you low level formatted the drive and started from scratch?

I don't think there's really any such thing as a "low level" format
anymore on modern hard drives is there?

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT A real used car dealer?

[WILTON]

5 years ago, I found my showroom 87 300D on web site of used dealer in 
Winston-Salem; 'called to ask about it' told the guy I'd be there to see it 
early next afternoon.  When I got there, I asked for him; guy there told me 
he had day off.  I made deal with guy who was there; while 2nd guy was 
putting temp tag on it, first guy drove up; 'was mad as Hell when he 
realized I (who had spoken to him by phone the day before) had bought the 
car.  I drove car home; 'still nearly showroom now.  'Don't know what the 
two salesmen did after I left with car - 'don't care.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT A real used car dealer?


It might be on commission or something, the guy wants to make sure some 
random yahoo doesn't screw the sale up.  Do you know where the car is?


You can google a phone number and it might tell you who it belongs to 
(dealer or some individual).


--R

ned kleinhenz wrote:

I spotted a used car advertised in AutoTrader that may suit my daughter's
needs.
I'm working in Poland, this summer.  So I asked my son to check it out.
It was advertised by what appears to be a used car dealer.
My son reported that he could only see the car by appointment.
WTF?

Some of you guys probably wheel and deal a lot more cars than I do.
What does it tell me about the dealer if I can only see a used car by
appointment?
Is this good?

Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] OT A real used car dealer?

[Gary Hurst]

some curbstoners are licensed and hence "dealers" but it's more like they
find a place to keep their inventory and meet you there rather than have any
sort of real walk up business.

is it bad?  yeah, like with any curbstoner or used car lot, it's probably
bad.  is it always bad?  um, no.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:31 PM, ned kleinhenz wrote:

> I spotted a used car advertised in AutoTrader that may suit my daughter's
> needs.
> I'm working in Poland, this summer.  So I asked my son to check it out.
> It was advertised by what appears to be a used car dealer.
> My son reported that he could only see the car by appointment.
> WTF?
>
> Some of you guys probably wheel and deal a lot more cars than I do.
> What does it tell me about the dealer if I can only see a used car by
> appointment?
> Is this good?
>
> Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)

[Gary Hurst]

you rarely have to mess with drums and they let you dispense with power
brakes in many cars.  i will never get over the simplicity of my german
built 70s VW Rabbit. no power steering or brakes.  dry clutch.  CIS.  points
and condenser ignition.  i changed the plugs and points every 5k miles.
took about 10 minutes to do. changed the condenser every 15k and coil and
wires every 30k.   never an ignition problem.  ever. not even a slight one.


 had 400k miles or so on it when a tree finally did it in.  i donated to
some school for evil boys who said they would bring it back to life although
i never learned if they ever did or not.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Gary Hurst  writes:
>
> > rear discs are vastly overrated.
>
> I like them because they are just much easier maintenance wise.  I
> always have trouble getting drum brakes adjusted right.
>
> I agree they probably won't make a huge difference in stopping ability,
> as most of that is done by the fronts.
>
> Allan
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT A real used car dealer?

[Rich Thomas]

It might be on commission or something, the guy wants to make sure some 
random yahoo doesn't screw the sale up.  Do you know where the car is?


You can google a phone number and it might tell you who it belongs to 
(dealer or some individual).


--R

ned kleinhenz wrote:

I spotted a used car advertised in AutoTrader that may suit my daughter's
needs.
I'm working in Poland, this summer.  So I asked my son to check it out.
It was advertised by what appears to be a used car dealer.
My son reported that he could only see the car by appointment.
WTF?

Some of you guys probably wheel and deal a lot more cars than I do.
What does it tell me about the dealer if I can only see a used car by
appointment?
Is this good?

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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)

[Allan Streib]

Gary Hurst  writes:

> rear discs are vastly overrated.

I like them because they are just much easier maintenance wise.  I
always have trouble getting drum brakes adjusted right.

I agree they probably won't make a huge difference in stopping ability,
as most of that is done by the fronts.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Rolf the 200D

[LWB250]

Edmonton is a beautiful place - some parts of the year.  I used to have 
customers in both Calgary and Edmonton.  I would fly into Calgary, take care of 
business there, drive to Edmonton, then drive back to Calgary via the Icefields 
parkway.  What a drive - I wish I could do that on my bike (motorcycle) some 
day.

Jasper was nice, and I would occasionally take a day there and backpack up to 
Maligne (sp?) lake with a local.  I packed 30 pounds of widefield camera gear 
in there on time to take some photos - I have a nearly 3 foot wide panoramic 
shot of the lake from the north shore hanging on the wall downstairs.

You're lucky to live in such a scenic area.  I like your car, and I like where 
you live, too

Dan



--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Bob Hamilton  wrote:

> From: Bob Hamilton 
> Subject: [MBZ] Rolf the 200D
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" , 
> "diesel-benz-dig...@digest.net" 
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 7:32 PM
> Yes, the car is named Rolf after the
> original owner.  His name was Rolf Seidel and he bought
> the car on Feb 8, 1968 for $5,665.  He traded in a 1967
> Volvo.  I have the original Bill of Sale.  He
> passed away a few years ago and I bought the car from his
> daughter.  I checked with her and she was O.K. with me
> calling it Rolf.  In fact, she was very pleased!
> 
> I likely would run the steel wheels with the hub caps - I
> do have the hub caps but not the wheels.  I got the 4
> alloy wheels (didn't know they were called bundts) with new
> GoodYears for $150 so being a good Scotsman and a bit lazy,
> I went with those.  I will keep the hubcaps.  For
> now, all you experts will know it doesn't look quite right -
> the rest of the world will just see a really cool old
> car.  I have posted a couple new pictures with a combo
> bundt/hubcap for your viewing pleasure at:  
> http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D# 
> The one picture also shows that I didn't quite go with the
> original green.  I used to work for Dupont and managed
> their auto paint business in Western Canada.  The
> original green needed a bit of jazzing up so I added a bit
> of Chromalusion in the clear coat - makes is sparkle with
> some varying colors.
> 
> Someone asked where I live - I'm in Spruce Grove, just west
> of Edmonton, Alberta.  I've worked too hard on it for
> too long to sell it.  My 51 Willys truck that was in
> the background in a couple of the pictures came into my life
> in 1980.  I've had it so long I've restored it
> twice!  It predates our five children and we even have
> a son named Willy.  Hence, I don't part with these old
> cars easily.  I imagine it will be driven by my two
> younger children as long as I can prove it to be
> dependable.
> 
> I got my jumpy fuel gauge fixed.  I pulled out the
> sending unit from the tank (should have waited a little
> longer as I had just filled the car up recently so it was a
> bit overflowing) - actually the diesel helped to clean
> everything up.  Seems to be working fine now.  I
> just need to get my one turn signal fixed.
> 
> Thanks for the nice comments.    
> Bob
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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

well get down here tomorrow and clean my carb.  I though you were 
stopping by on your way home anyway?


OK Don wrote:

Trade the lawn mower for a couple of goats --

Back when I was a a professional wrench, I tore down, cleaned, and
reassembled many a carb, to find nothing, but they all ran much better after
the exercise. Either the crud stuck in the jets fell out during
dissassembly, or was too small to see.
  


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84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

will do, guess if all else fails I will load it up and take it to the 
mower shop.


LarryT wrote:
before you do that, take the sheetmetal cover off and look at the 
governor - looks like a flap or little door - often the hinge it rides 
on will become encased in grass, sticks, etc and no longer move smoothly.


Clean the heck out of it and try again.  Carbs on those thiings are 
PITAs.


LarryT


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Re: [MBZ] Turn signal help

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:46:16 -0600 Bob Hamilton 
wrote:

> I thought I would start a new email for this one.  I think this is the
> only thing that I need to get fixed in order for the 200D to pass an
> inspection.  Here's what is happening.
> 
> 
> 1.   The turn signal on the left (driver) side is working fine and
> normal both front and rear.
> 
> 2.   The hazard lights are working normally on the left side and the
> right side at the back - not working on the front right side.  It
> actually seems to be a different flasher that is being used.
> 
> 3.   When I put on the right signal, I get a fast flashing going on
> the back right, nothing on the front.
> 
> 4.   I did have all the lights out.  When reassembling, I noticed a
> frayed wire on the right side front and replaced it.  There is a little
> black box at the front (maybe a relay?) that it plugs into.
> 
> 5.   The bulbs are all fine.  There doesn't seem to be a signal
> being sent to the front right side.
> 
> Any guesses as to where I should look?Thanks  ...  Bob


It does sound like there is a break in the wire to the bulb in the right
front. Do you have a schematic for your car? My 1970 Chilton's Manual has
a schematic for a 190Dc (also a 110.110 Finny like the 200D). I could scan
that in for you if you'd like. (Since we had a '64 190Dc, some of the
lines on the schematic have light pencil lines over them where I was
following the wire on the schematic -- I could even erase those.)


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers

[Mountain Man]

--R wrote:
> You and C&D are such a buzz killer -- it really is about how it all
> feels!

It already feels like I went to the proctologist.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] w114/115 rear bumper

[Redghost]

Sounds like I will have to rebuild my rear.  BiL has all the welding  
goodies and such to make new bumper mounts and place them in/on the  
back side.


May have to hold off, since BiL is waiting for girl #2 to be born.   
Child is 8 weeks early and OB is holding off as long as possible for  
the C section, but I suspect it will be in a day or two.  Mom ran out  
of amniotic fluid.


clay

On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:08:03 -0700 Jim Cathey 
wrote:


Since #1 boy was less than gentle in his ramming speed approaches to
push start Gump, I am looking at R&R for the rear bumper.  Sort of
mooshed the bumper in toward the body.  Is the bumper attached to a
shock system or have we munched the thing into the body now?


I think the US (fat) bumpers were shock-mounted.  Certainly
the 123's were, I had the glue fail on the Chicken Wagon.
It might pull back out if you yank on it.  Use the rope you
should have had in the first place.


The bumpers on a '72 115 were NOT shock-mounted. In fact, they were
attached to the body by bolts that went in to the sheet metal. If  
you had
a trailer hitch mounted on the bumper and periodically tightened the  
loose
bumper mounting nuts, you would eventually pull the bolts through  
and out

of the sheet metal.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[Mountain Man]

LarryT wrote:
> I wonder if anyone knows the real/true cost of using Ethanol?

Nope.
But I would suspect it will cost a tad more, as 35 miles west of here
in Rockford several rail cars of it went up in flames last night -
according to online news stories.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl

[Bill R]

I'm still shooting for a FL-Q when you get that thing done.  BBQ and plane
rides for everybody ... or at least we could watch.
BillR

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of MG
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl

I do, not to be confused with Bush. Lots of decorative possibilities 
and with a new house coming along rather nicely I do have to think 
about that.

Manfred


Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:19:10 -0500
From: Mountain Man 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl

Manfred> wrote:
 > Interesting mental image that induces. Probably just my dirty nerve
 > connections up there.

You have dirty nerve connections?  Hmmm...
Oh, you like bush.
mao



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[MBZ] OT A real used car dealer?

[ned kleinhenz]

I spotted a used car advertised in AutoTrader that may suit my daughter's
needs.
I'm working in Poland, this summer.  So I asked my son to check it out.
It was advertised by what appears to be a used car dealer.
My son reported that he could only see the car by appointment.
WTF?

Some of you guys probably wheel and deal a lot more cars than I do.
What does it tell me about the dealer if I can only see a used car by
appointment?
Is this good?

Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] w114/115 rear bumper

[Redghost]

Yeah Yeah, I know I should have used the strap, but I do not trust #1  
boy to know how to drive well enough to involve him in that sort of  
operation.



clay

On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Since #1 boy was less than gentle in his ramming speed approaches  
to push start Gump, I am looking at R&R for the rear bumper.  Sort  
of mooshed the bumper in toward the body.  Is the bumper attached  
to a shock system or have we munched the thing into the body now?


I think the US (fat) bumpers were shock-mounted.  Certainly
the 123's were, I had the glue fail on the Chicken Wagon.
It might pull back out if you yank on it.  Use the rope you
should have had in the first place.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[Russ Williams]

Larry,

Try installing the hard drive in your external enclosure. Then hook it up
to the lappy and boot up your XP CD see if it sees the hard drive.
If it does then do the install. External drive enclosures have their own 
SATA
controller. If you are LUCKY and this works then reinstall the hard 
drive into

lappy.
Now your second round of head bashing will come.
Did Toshiba write XP drivers for that system? If not you are going to 
have a lot

more FUN. Vista Drivers WILL NOT work on XP.

BTW there are USB Floppy Drives out there. The last one I bought was 30 
bucks.


I used the above method on a Gateway lappy that had the same problem you 
have

been running into. The Gateway did have the XP drivers so it was fairly easy
after the OS was installed.

Good Luck
Russ W. (I HATE VISTA too)

LarryT wrote:

OK, here's what happened -

I have tried everything.  Formated a new HD (after trying the old HD), 
but Win did not recognize *either* drive present.   I used the both 
drives in an ext enclosure without problem.  Did a full format and 
tried again - same problem.  checked the BIOS instructions and there 
is *no* switch for OS - no mention of anything OS related.  I did a 
LOT of research while looking...hoping it would be that easy.


Toshiba is no help at all.  I went to Intel to find the proper HD 
Driver and then used nLite to integrate the driver into my XP install 
discs.  Still did not recognize the HD - same problem, no change..  
Maybe Intel gave me the wrong driver?  Anything is possible.


I am slowly getting used to using Vista - it is slow and cumbersome - 
"used to" is not the same as "liking it".


I'm beginning to think I have what Dave Walton referred to << 
non-standard drive controller, you are screwed
until they come out with drivers for XP.>>  Why would they develop 
drivers for XP?  MS doesn't even support it anymore.


It's a Toshiba Qosmio F45 Laptop.  It's not a bad machine - 500GB HD 
and 2 GB RAM but Vista is like an anchor around its neck.


Part of the problem is MS wrote the backdate to XP specifically hard 
to do. When drivers are needed you must press F6 (no problem so far) 
but then you must install the HD Drivers from a *floppy* drive.  How 
many people have floppy drives?  A USB will not work nor will a CD.  
Only a floppy.


Tell me MS didn't do that on purpose?  They are so friggin arragant 
that they decide what OS I must use - no matter what I want.  Then 
they put roadblocks up to prevent using what I'm happy with, and 
educated on.


Just found out  yesterday Vista Ultimate is not compatible with my 
full versions of Roxio or Nero!  2 more programs (that were not cheap) 
I would have to buy *new* versions of if I wanted to be where I was 
before buying this POS.


As I work to get my Acer (with XP) back up to speed after being 
repaired, I plan to save all of my stuff, wipe the disc and install 
Vista to it's "out of box" state - then sell it on eBay.  Maybe this 
won't be a total loss. Luckily I can use my SATA ext. enclosure to 
cut/copy/paste anything needed to my Acer.  The biggest problem is the 
SATA 50GB HD will not fit in my Acer - it has ATA conns. I can use it 
as an ext storage device but that's it for now.


Next time I need a laptop I will look at Macs as suggested - as long 
as they run Win PC software or have an equivilent.  I refuse to buy 
new SW just because a sw designer adds some bells and whisltles.  
Especially after spending hours reading a manual that looks like a 
dictionary.  Don't need to go thru that pain again.


Not even going to consider Win7 next year - too irritated with the way 
I was treated - no matter how good it is supposed to be.


Thx for letting me vent .

LarryT


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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

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[MBZ] Turn signal help

[Bob Hamilton]

I thought I would start a new email for this one.  I think this is the only 
thing that I need to get fixed in order for the 200D to pass an inspection.  
Here's what is happening.


1.   The turn signal on the left (driver) side is working fine and normal 
both front and rear.

2.   The hazard lights are working normally on the left side and the right 
side at the back - not working on the front right side.  It actually seems to 
be a different flasher that is being used.

3.   When I put on the right signal, I get a fast flashing going on the 
back right, nothing on the front.

4.   I did have all the lights out.  When reassembling, I noticed a frayed 
wire on the right side front and replaced it.  There is a little black box at 
the front (maybe a relay?) that it plugs into.

5.   The bulbs are all fine.  There doesn't seem to be a signal being sent 
to the front right side.

Any guesses as to where I should look?Thanks  ...  Bob
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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[LarryT]

We inherited a home from my wifes mother - who married after my wife left 
home - so we didn't know her new hubby real well.  Anyway once the house is 
ours we find a large old safe -  the combo works but its empty and we have 
no place to put it or a way to easily move it so we sold it.   $350 iirc. 
It was about 3'tall by 3' square.  Was *very* heavy/


I'd imagine they come up at estate auctions from time to time.

Good luck -

LarryT
91 300D

"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania


Some friends of mine bought an old Victorian, c 1870-1880 or so, and it 
came with an old safe that it looked like the house had been built around, 
It was in a closet, about 3ft square, maybe 5 ft high.  They had some kind 
of flat key for it, about an inch wide and 6in long with some 
indentations, and it had a combo too.  They called an old guy who came and 
fooled with it for awhile and got it open.  There was nothing in it, they 
got the combo or made another one or something, and use it now for random 
stuff.  It was way cool though, a huge heavy thing.  The door was about 
6in thick.


If you get a gun safe, and live in a humid climate, get a 
heater/dehumidifier thingie for it and open it every now and again and 
check it.  My buddy in Houston had his antique gun collection in one in 
the garage (no place in the house for it), the heater thing went bad, all 
his guns got moldy and rusty.  Cost him a fair amount to clean them up. 
They look sorta like an aquarium heater.


--R

LarryT wrote:
If you would like a nice safe, take a look at gun safes at your local 
gunstore.  Most are at least 4' tall and 2 or 3 feet square then range 
from $300-$thousands.  They are usually bolted to the floor and have 
electronic combinations or

manual turning rings (or both)   like our old high school lockers.

You can buy one of these and it will be new - of course used ones are 
available - Walmart & Costco also sells them.


Mostly you ned to decide what you want to keep safe and whether it needs 
to be fireproof or not.  naturaly FP costs more.


Good luck -
LarryT
91 300D

"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"

- Original Message - From: "LWB250" 
To: "Banned" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Safe Mania




For some reason I have gotten the idea that I need an old safe.  Maybe 
to store stuff in, I don't know.  It's one of those "cruising Craigslist 
and seeing something that makes you think, "It would be cool to have one 
of those..."


Anyone here have any knowledge of safes, and if so, want to share it?

I know they are heavy, but moving it is no problem, as I have all the 
rigging and stuff I need from work.


Dan





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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[LarryT]

My Toro always ran *super* - but now, that I must use Ethanol, the needle 
valve sticks from time to time.  To fix it I have to take it apart, clean it 
and put it back together.


I wonder if anyone knows the real/true cost of using Ethanol?   I'll bet 
there are loads of "unintended circumstances" associated ith its use in 
cars.


LarryT


"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"
- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle



Trade the lawn mower for a couple of goats --

Back when I was a a professional wrench, I tore down, cleaned, and
reassembled many a carb, to find nothing, but they all ran much better 
after

the exercise. Either the crud stuck in the jets fell out during
dissassembly, or was too small to see.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:15 PM, LarryT  wrote:

before you do that, take the sheetmetal cover off and look at the 
governor
- looks like a flap or little door - often the hinge it rides on will 
become

encased in grass, sticks, etc and no longer move smoothly.

Clean the heck out of it and try again.  Carbs on those thiings are 
PITAs.


--
OK Don
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[MBZ] Rolf the 200D

[Bob Hamilton]

Yes, the car is named Rolf after the original owner.  His name was Rolf Seidel 
and he bought the car on Feb 8, 1968 for $5,665.  He traded in a 1967 Volvo.  I 
have the original Bill of Sale.  He passed away a few years ago and I bought 
the car from his daughter.  I checked with her and she was O.K. with me calling 
it Rolf.  In fact, she was very pleased!

I likely would run the steel wheels with the hub caps - I do have the hub caps 
but not the wheels.  I got the 4 alloy wheels (didn't know they were called 
bundts) with new GoodYears for $150 so being a good Scotsman and a bit lazy, I 
went with those.  I will keep the hubcaps.  For now, all you experts will know 
it doesn't look quite right - the rest of the world will just see a really cool 
old car.  I have posted a couple new pictures with a combo bundt/hubcap for 
your viewing pleasure at:  http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D#  The 
one picture also shows that I didn't quite go with the original green.  I used 
to work for Dupont and managed their auto paint business in Western Canada.  
The original green needed a bit of jazzing up so I added a bit of Chromalusion 
in the clear coat - makes is sparkle with some varying colors.

Someone asked where I live - I'm in Spruce Grove, just west of Edmonton, 
Alberta.  I've worked too hard on it for too long to sell it.  My 51 Willys 
truck that was in the background in a couple of the pictures came into my life 
in 1980.  I've had it so long I've restored it twice!  It predates our five 
children and we even have a son named Willy.  Hence, I don't part with these 
old cars easily.  I imagine it will be driven by my two younger children as 
long as I can prove it to be dependable.

I got my jumpy fuel gauge fixed.  I pulled out the sending unit from the tank 
(should have waited a little longer as I had just filled the car up recently so 
it was a bit overflowing) - actually the diesel helped to clean everything up.  
Seems to be working fine now.  I just need to get my one turn signal fixed.

Thanks for the nice comments.     Bob


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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[dave walton]

Microsoft has extended support for XP to sometime in 2014 last I checked.
A USB floppy will work so that you can load drivers via F6 when
booting the XP install CD - unless their USB controller is
non-standard as well.
DeepBurner.com has free burning software that will replace some of the
functionality of Nero.
I suspect Vista will be orphaned like Win98-ME was. Unfortunately
Microsoft has said there will be no upgrade path from XP to Win7. Go
figure.

-Dave Walton


On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:05 PM, LarryT wrote:
> OK, here's what happened -
>
> I have tried everything.  Formated a new HD (after trying the old HD), but
> Win did not recognize *either* drive present.   I used the both drives in an
> ext enclosure without problem.  Did a full format and tried again - same
> problem.  checked the BIOS instructions and there is *no* switch for OS - no
> mention of anything OS related.  I did a LOT of research while
> looking...hoping it would be that easy.
>
> Toshiba is no help at all.  I went to Intel to find the proper HD Driver and
> then used nLite to integrate the driver into my XP install discs.  Still did
> not recognize the HD - same problem, no change..  Maybe Intel gave me the
> wrong driver?  Anything is possible.
>
> I am slowly getting used to using Vista - it is slow and cumbersome - "used
> to" is not the same as "liking it".
>
> I'm beginning to think I have what Dave Walton referred to << non-standard
> drive controller, you are screwed
> until they come out with drivers for XP.>>  Why would they develop drivers
> for XP?  MS doesn't even support it anymore.
>
> It's a Toshiba Qosmio F45 Laptop.  It's not a bad machine - 500GB HD and 2
> GB RAM but Vista is like an anchor around its neck.
>
> Part of the problem is MS wrote the backdate to XP specifically hard to do.
> When drivers are needed you must press F6 (no problem so far) but then you
> must install the HD Drivers from a *floppy* drive.  How many people have
> floppy drives?  A USB will not work nor will a CD.  Only a floppy.
>
> Tell me MS didn't do that on purpose?  They are so friggin arragant that
> they decide what OS I must use - no matter what I want.  Then they put
> roadblocks up to prevent using what I'm happy with, and educated on.
>
> Just found out  yesterday Vista Ultimate is not compatible with my full
> versions of Roxio or Nero!  2 more programs (that were not cheap) I would
> have to buy *new* versions of if I wanted to be where I was before buying
> this POS.
>
> As I work to get my Acer (with XP) back up to speed after being repaired, I
> plan to save all of my stuff, wipe the disc and install Vista to it's "out
> of box" state - then sell it on eBay.  Maybe this won't be a total loss.
> Luckily I can use my SATA ext. enclosure to cut/copy/paste anything needed
> to my Acer.  The biggest problem is the SATA 50GB HD will not fit in my Acer
> - it has ATA conns. I can use it as an ext storage device but that's it for
> now.
>
> Next time I need a laptop I will look at Macs as suggested - as long as they
> run Win PC software or have an equivilent.  I refuse to buy new SW just
> because a sw designer adds some bells and whisltles.  Especially after
> spending hours reading a manual that looks like a dictionary.  Don't need to
> go thru that pain again.
>
> Not even going to consider Win7 next year - too irritated with the way I was
> treated - no matter how good it is supposed to be.
>
> Thx for letting me vent .
>
> LarryT
>
>
> "How come the proposed
> 'univ health care'
> excludes congress?"
> - Original Message - From: "LWB250" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
>
>
>
> Now that I think about this it sounds bogus.  We were using HP desktops
> downgraded to XP a year ago that had SATA drives in them.
>
> Have you low level formatted the drive and started from scratch?
>
> Dan
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Barry Stark  wrote:
>
>> From: Barry Stark 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7  FWIW
>> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
>> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:58 PM
>> Larry -
>> That seems strange to me as my 3 year old Dell desktop has
>> a 320Gb SATA hard
>> drive and I just recently purchased an OEM copy of XP pro
>> and installed it
>> without incident. Could it have something to do with the
>> laptop BIOS somehow
>> not being compatible with XP or driver problems?
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
>> On Behalf Of LarryT
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:24 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
>>
>> The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista
>> Ultimate. I have been
>> trying to install my copy of XP Home wince early April when
>> I decided the
>> "improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it
>> impossible for me to live
>>
>> with Vista. Since then I have been progresively moved
>> up the Help

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[E M]

 my 3 year old Dell desktop has
>> a 320Gb SATA hard
>> drive and I just recently purchased an OEM copy of XP pro
>> and installed it
>> without incident. Could it have something to do with the
>> laptop BIOS somehow
>> not being compatible with XP or driver problems?
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
>> On Behalf Of LarryT
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:24 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
>>
>> The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista
>> Ultimate. I have been
>> trying to install my copy of XP Home wince early April when
>> I decided the
>> "improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it
>> impossible for me to live
>>
>> with Vista. Since then I have been progresively moved
>> up the Help Chain
>> getting more and more experienced (and less and less
>> knowledgable)
>> "experts". None seem to know how to install XP onto a
>> SATA Hard drive -
>> even the *new* 500GB HD I bought specifically for this
>> purpose.
>>
>> Absolutely no luck in getting XP running on a SATA HD - so
>> don;t believe the
>>
>> salespeople who tell you XP can be installed easily. Even
>> using nLight to
>> integrate the drivers into the XP install discs have not
>> worked. Will try
>> it again just to be sure. I'm pretty computer
>> literate but when they start
>> offering instructions it's like they are speaking another
>> language - one
>> *they* don't understand either
>>
>> I installed Vista in my new HD hoping it would be easier to
>> work with if it
>> were installed with *my* specific wants considered from the
>> get-go. No such
>>
>> luck -
>>
>> I finally found out how to install XP as a second OS - but
>> it's not very
>> easy to work with
>>
>> Not much fun so I've gone back to my Acer with XP Home
>>
>> Good luck -
>> LarryT 91 300D
>>
>> "How come the proposed
>>  'univ health care'
>> excludes congress?"
>> - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <
>> lfa...@leadingchange.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:16 PM
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
>>
>>
>> > According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow
>> buyers of "higher end"
>> > versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP at no extra
>> charge.
>> >
>> > By Doug Barney
>> > Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine
>> >
>> > <http://www.1105newsletters.com/t.do?id=2828309:1060387>Windows
>> 7: You Can
>>
>> > Go Back
>> > When Vista came out, many new users clamored for the
>> right to move back to
>>
>> > XP. Unfortunately, going back wasn't always easy and
>> wasn't usually free.
>> > With that lesson in mind, Microsoft
>> > <http://www.1105newsletters.com/t.do?id=2828310:1060387>just
>> announced
>> > that new Windows 7 customers will have a
>> year-and-a-half to move back down
>>
>> > to XP or even Vista (however, the plan only applies to
>> high-end versions
>> > of Windows 7).
>> >
>> > While this is a nice gesture, I think downgraders will
>> be few and far
>> > between -- maybe just those who depend on that random
>> app that Windows 7
>> > chokes on. What would make you want or need to go back
>> to XP? And would
>> > there ever be a reason to move from Windows 7 to
>> Vista? Answers readily
>> > read at dbar...@redmondmag.com.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> http://redmondmag.com/blogs/doug-barney/2009/06/windows-7-you-can-go-back.as
>> px
>> >
>> > Personally, the more I use OSX, the more i like
>> it. No 64 bit migration
>> > problems. It has always been 64 bit.
>> >
>> >
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[MBZ] OT Iran

[Rich Thomas]

If anyone is interested there is live and recorded streaming video here 
http://persianq.com/


Things look quite a mess there.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[Rick Knoble]

Here is a few.



ARE! My sincerest apologies to Wonko and Wilton.

Rick 



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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers

[Rich Thomas]

You and C&D are such a buzz killer -- it really is about how it all 
feels!


Get a bike for the knee.

--R

LarryT wrote:
Sorry I'm late responding to this - had a new knee installed and 
haven't been computer friendly for a while.  Knee is healing nicely BTW.


re the Cash for Clunkers (CFC).

There's a few problems no one has mentioned -
These are from the Car & Driver website

"Five Reasons "Cash for Clunkers" is a Joke - Car News

Why Cash for Clunkers is more a political maneuver than substantive 
help for the U.S. auto industry-or the environment.


BY STEVE SILER
June 2009

With news that Congress has passed its ballyhooed $1 billion "Cash for 
Clunkers" bill, we feel compelled to voice our skepticism about the 
program. Here's the bill in a nutshell: Buyers of new vehicles between 
July 1 and November 1 will be given a voucher for $3500 if they 
forfeit a post-1984 car or truck that has been registered for at least 
one year and has a combined fuel economy rating at least 4 mpg lower 
than their new vehicle. The voucher grows to $4500 if the increase in 
fuel economy is 10 mpg or higher. The old car or truck is then crushed 
and recycled.
Here are five reasons we don't think this program is worth the time it 
took to draft it, let alone a billion dollars:


1) The voucher replaces the trade-in deal you might otherwise get from 
the dealership; it's not in addition to the car's private sale or 
trade-in value. In other words, if you're trading in a car that's 
worth $3000, your net gain is only $500. Although if your car is worth 
$100, CFC couldn't come at a better time.


2) We're not sure how many folks driving cars worth $3500 or less are 
in the market for a new car in the first place. Sure, there's the 
occasional fresh-out-of-college new-hire (we're not sure who's hiring 
right now, but we'll play make-believe) that might still be ready to 
move from a Dodge Omni to a shiny new Honda Insight, but people 
driving cheap old beaters are probably doing so because they can't 
afford a new car. And $3500 doesn't go far when the average 
transaction price of new cars hovers around $24K. The vouchers don't 
apply toward the purchase of used cars, for which the majority of old 
beaters are traded in.


3) People driving large, gas-gulping old cars and trucks often do so 
because they need the utility those vehicles provide. Old station 
wagons, for example, have few modern counterparts that are as 
versatile while achieving better fuel economy. Ditto pickups, which 
have gotten bigger and more capable but not much more fuel-efficient. 
And if the government thinks that someone is going to step out of a 
1994 Dodge Ram into a Honda Fit, they need to get out of D.C. a little 
more often.


4) Naturally, we have some reservations about any bill designed to 
facilitate wiping out-we're sorry, recycling-any automotive species. 
And let's face it, while there are a lot of bona fide clunkers out 
there, we're afraid that a bunch of future classics will get caught in 
this roundup. We propose, then, that a certified auto enthusiast 
(paid, of course) be placed at all certified CFC dealerships to screen 
the cars that are brought in, returning the cool cars-including 
anything with T-tops-to the streets.


5) Besides cleansing the U.S. of gas-guzzling pigs, the other supposed 
benefit of the CFC program is to provide a short-term boost to the 
starving auto business. However, we hope these legislators don't 
expect it to meaningfully help the domestic automakers. Many of the 
automobiles with fuel-economy ratings high enough to qualify for the 
vouchers come from Japan and Korea.


On the bright side, the cost to taxpayers will be minimal when no one 
actually participates."


Hold on, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.   Another billion in 
spending. still only 1/1000th of a trillion


LarryT
91 300D (Clunker?  at 30mpg's?) ;-/


"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"
- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers


Apparently our government is now going to be giving out coupons if 
you trade in your old "clunker" or "guzzler" on a new vehicle that 
gets better fuel economy.  Up to $4500.  Trade-ins must go to the 
crusher.


So, looks like buying that clapped out old Benz for a few hundred 
bucks could get you a good start on a new one.


Is the list mom now a coupon millionaire?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[Rick Knoble]

From: "E M" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:07 PM


lol, I keep looking around for an old vintage barber chair.


http://bloomington.craigslist.org/fuo/1202283685.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/for/1220558472.html

http://terrahaute.craigslist.org/clt/1205123849.html

Here is a few.

I love CL :)

Rick 



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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[Rich Thomas]

Some friends of mine bought an old Victorian, c 1870-1880 or so, and it 
came with an old safe that it looked like the house had been built 
around,  It was in a closet, about 3ft square, maybe 5 ft high.  They 
had some kind of flat key for it, about an inch wide and 6in long with 
some indentations, and it had a combo too.  They called an old guy who 
came and fooled with it for awhile and got it open.  There was nothing 
in it, they got the combo or made another one or something, and use it 
now for random stuff.  It was way cool though, a huge heavy thing.  The 
door was about 6in thick.


If you get a gun safe, and live in a humid climate, get a 
heater/dehumidifier thingie for it and open it every now and again and 
check it.  My buddy in Houston had his antique gun collection in one in 
the garage (no place in the house for it), the heater thing went bad, 
all his guns got moldy and rusty.  Cost him a fair amount to clean them 
up.  They look sorta like an aquarium heater.


--R

LarryT wrote:
If you would like a nice safe, take a look at gun safes at your local 
gunstore.  Most are at least 4' tall and 2 or 3 feet square then range 
from $300-$thousands.  They are usually bolted to the floor and have 
electronic combinations or

manual turning rings (or both)   like our old high school lockers.

You can buy one of these and it will be new - of course used ones are 
available - Walmart & Costco also sells them.


Mostly you ned to decide what you want to keep safe and whether it 
needs to be fireproof or not.  naturaly FP costs more.


Good luck -
LarryT
91 300D

"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"

- Original Message - From: "LWB250" 
To: "Banned" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Safe Mania




For some reason I have gotten the idea that I need an old safe.  
Maybe to store stuff in, I don't know.  It's one of those "cruising 
Craigslist and seeing something that makes you think, "It would be 
cool to have one of those..."


Anyone here have any knowledge of safes, and if so, want to share it?

I know they are heavy, but moving it is no problem, as I have all the 
rigging and stuff I need from work.


Dan





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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[OK Don]

Trade the lawn mower for a couple of goats --

Back when I was a a professional wrench, I tore down, cleaned, and
reassembled many a carb, to find nothing, but they all ran much better after
the exercise. Either the crud stuck in the jets fell out during
dissassembly, or was too small to see.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:15 PM, LarryT  wrote:

> before you do that, take the sheetmetal cover off and look at the governor
> - looks like a flap or little door - often the hinge it rides on will become
> encased in grass, sticks, etc and no longer move smoothly.
>
> Clean the heck out of it and try again.  Carbs on those thiings are PITAs.
>
> --
> OK Don
> Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos
>
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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[LarryT]

If you would like a nice safe, take a look at gun safes at your local 
gunstore.  Most are at least 4' tall and 2 or 3 feet square then range from 
$300-$thousands.  They are usually bolted to the floor and have electronic 
combinations or

manual turning rings (or both)   like our old high school lockers.

You can buy one of these and it will be new - of course used ones are 
available - Walmart & Costco also sells them.


Mostly you ned to decide what you want to keep safe and whether it needs to 
be fireproof or not.  naturaly FP costs more.


Good luck -
LarryT
91 300D

"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"

- Original Message - 
From: "LWB250" 

To: "Banned" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Safe Mania




For some reason I have gotten the idea that I need an old safe.  Maybe to 
store stuff in, I don't know.  It's one of those "cruising Craigslist and 
seeing something that makes you think, "It would be cool to have one of 
those..."


Anyone here have any knowledge of safes, and if so, want to share it?

I know they are heavy, but moving it is no problem, as I have all the 
rigging and stuff I need from work.


Dan





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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[LarryT]

before you do that, take the sheetmetal cover off and look at the governor - 
looks like a flap or little door - often the hinge it rides on will become 
encased in grass, sticks, etc and no longer move smoothly.


Clean the heck out of it and try again.  Carbs on those thiings are PITAs.

LarryT

"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"
- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle


well the seafoam didnt seem to work, so Im going to try and pull the carb 
off and see what I can figure out.


E M wrote:

nah, bubble bath doesn't work very well for such things.

Ed
300E

2009/6/20 Kaleb C. Striplin 



Maybe i should try some of that seafoam stuff first.

Jim Cathey wrote:



Sounds like you got crud in a jet.  Take it apart and clean
it out.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[LarryT]

OK, here's what happened -

I have tried everything.  Formated a new HD (after trying the old HD), but 
Win did not recognize *either* drive present.   I used the both drives in an 
ext enclosure without problem.  Did a full format and tried again - same 
problem.  checked the BIOS instructions and there is *no* switch for OS - no 
mention of anything OS related.  I did a LOT of research while 
looking...hoping it would be that easy.


Toshiba is no help at all.  I went to Intel to find the proper HD Driver and 
then used nLite to integrate the driver into my XP install discs.  Still did 
not recognize the HD - same problem, no change..  Maybe Intel gave me the 
wrong driver?  Anything is possible.


I am slowly getting used to using Vista - it is slow and cumbersome - "used 
to" is not the same as "liking it".


I'm beginning to think I have what Dave Walton referred to << non-standard 
drive controller, you are screwed
until they come out with drivers for XP.>>  Why would they develop drivers 
for XP?  MS doesn't even support it anymore.


It's a Toshiba Qosmio F45 Laptop.  It's not a bad machine - 500GB HD and 2 
GB RAM but Vista is like an anchor around its neck.


Part of the problem is MS wrote the backdate to XP specifically hard to do. 
When drivers are needed you must press F6 (no problem so far) but then you 
must install the HD Drivers from a *floppy* drive.  How many people have 
floppy drives?  A USB will not work nor will a CD.  Only a floppy.


Tell me MS didn't do that on purpose?  They are so friggin arragant that 
they decide what OS I must use - no matter what I want.  Then they put 
roadblocks up to prevent using what I'm happy with, and educated on.


Just found out  yesterday Vista Ultimate is not compatible with my full 
versions of Roxio or Nero!  2 more programs (that were not cheap) I would 
have to buy *new* versions of if I wanted to be where I was before buying 
this POS.


As I work to get my Acer (with XP) back up to speed after being repaired, I 
plan to save all of my stuff, wipe the disc and install Vista to it's "out 
of box" state - then sell it on eBay.  Maybe this won't be a total loss. 
Luckily I can use my SATA ext. enclosure to cut/copy/paste anything needed 
to my Acer.  The biggest problem is the SATA 50GB HD will not fit in my 
Acer - it has ATA conns. I can use it as an ext storage device but that's it 
for now.


Next time I need a laptop I will look at Macs as suggested - as long as they 
run Win PC software or have an equivilent.  I refuse to buy new SW just 
because a sw designer adds some bells and whisltles.  Especially after 
spending hours reading a manual that looks like a dictionary.  Don't need to 
go thru that pain again.


Not even going to consider Win7 next year - too irritated with the way I was 
treated - no matter how good it is supposed to be.


Thx for letting me vent .

LarryT


"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"
- Original Message - 
From: "LWB250" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW



Now that I think about this it sounds bogus.  We were using HP desktops 
downgraded to XP a year ago that had SATA drives in them.


Have you low level formatted the drive and started from scratch?

Dan

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Barry Stark  wrote:


From: Barry Stark 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7  FWIW
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:58 PM
Larry -
That seems strange to me as my 3 year old Dell desktop has
a 320Gb SATA hard
drive and I just recently purchased an OEM copy of XP pro
and installed it
without incident. Could it have something to do with the
laptop BIOS somehow
not being compatible with XP or driver problems?

Barry

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of LarryT
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista
Ultimate. I have been
trying to install my copy of XP Home wince early April when
I decided the
"improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it
impossible for me to live

with Vista. Since then I have been progresively moved
up the Help Chain
getting more and more experienced (and less and less
knowledgable)
"experts". None seem to know how to install XP onto a
SATA Hard drive -
even the *new* 500GB HD I bought specifically for this
purpose.

Absolutely no luck in getting XP running on a SATA HD - so
don;t believe the

salespeople who tell you XP can be installed easily. Even
using nLight to
integrate the drivers into the XP install discs have not
worked. Will try
it again just to be sure. I'm pretty computer
literate but when they start
offering instructions it's like they are speaking another
language - one
*they* don't understand either

I installed Vista in my new HD hoping it would be easier to
work with if it
were

[MBZ] congradulations on your 200D restoration

[Danny Goldberg]

Ed
As a fellow 1968 200D (yes there were a few hundred legitimate 68 200d Finbacks 
made during the transition to the 114/115 series) in the same green and 
interior color - could be twins but for my 4 on the floor; i commend you on a 
great job well done.  
The wheels are not my thing, but i fully understand why you did that under the 
circumstances - i'd hold on to the hub cap set and when you run across a set 
of wheels put them back on. The original 2 piece color coded hub caps have 
their charm as well.
Over all i'm jealous that you have the time and space to do a job at that 
level. 
I happen to know where there is an Adenauer (4 door, auto, gas fuel 
injected, black limo model but with no jump seats) that needs far less body 
work, but it's power train needs a going over that i just don't have time for 
(it's in central NJ)
Any interested takers contact me off list for more details and a link to the 
pictures.
 danny goldberg
Secretary, South Jersey Section, MBCA
68 200d 126,000 my toy
85 300d 168K (spare car)
90 300d 84K (donor car RIP)
91 300d 350,000 miles, my daily driver
93 300d 178K (resurrected by donor car)
96 Subaru Legacy 93K (wife's car) 


  

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel in summer

[OK Don]

Adjust the valves, if they aren't hydraulic also --

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Its time to run down the basics, fuel filter(s?), air filter, oil change,
> maybe even a can of diesel purge.
> I wouldn't have believed it but Marshall used to say dirty fuel filters
> would make fuel economy fall. One time I let the filters in my 240D get
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>
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> Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos
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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:32:00 -0700 (PDT) LWB250  wrote:

> 
> I am seeing them regularly on the local CL, but some of the prices are
> just stupid.  A couple of nice ones were in a state surplus auction last
> week, but I hadn't done my due diligence and wasn't sure what to bid, so
> I just watched.  Both went for around $230 each.  And these were big,
> full size (tall) safes.
> 
> I would most likely bolt it down to the floor.
> 
> The way they rate safes is pretty interesting - it's based on how long
> it would take someone to crack it under ideal conditions.

And not only that, they stop the clock while the cracker changes drill
bits or something similar.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:28:48 -0700 (PDT) LWB250  wrote:

> 
> For some reason I have gotten the idea that I need an old safe.  Maybe
> to store stuff in, I don't know.  It's one of those "cruising Craigslist
> and seeing something that makes you think, "It would be cool to have one
> of those..."
> 
> Anyone here have any knowledge of safes

Yes.


>, and if so, want to share it?

Sure.

You need to ask yourself some questions:

1. What are you trying to protect?

2. How much of it is there to protect?

3. From whom are you trying to protect it?

4. Are you trying to protect it from fire, or just break-in?

If you have some old odds and ends, a residential security container (RSC)
may be all you need. A number of those come with decent fire ratings.

If you have lots of gold bullion or diamonds, you'll want at least a TL-30
class safe. If that's all you have, you won't need much of a fire rating,
if any.

If you have computer media you want to protect, you will want something
with a very good fire rating and then store the media (which is more
sensitive to heat than paper) in a small fire-rated box inside the safe.



> I know they are heavy, but moving it is no problem, as I have all the
> rigging and stuff I need from work.

There is heavy and there is HEAVY. A 3500# safe is in a different league
than an 800# safe. A 1# safe is in yet another, quite different
league.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[LWB250]

I am seeing them regularly on the local CL, but some of the prices are just 
stupid.  A couple of nice ones were in a state surplus auction last week, but I 
hadn't done my due diligence and wasn't sure what to bid, so I just watched.  
Both went for around $230 each.  And these were big, full size (tall) safes.

I would most likely bolt it down to the floor.

The way they rate safes is pretty interesting - it's based on how long it would 
take someone to crack it under ideal conditions.

Dan

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> From: Jim Cathey 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Banned" 
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 5:25 PM
> Safes are heavy.  Really old
> ones are (I guess) fairly
> easy to break into.  If you can bolt them down it's
> even better.  Used safes turn up rarely.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[Jim Cathey]

Safes are heavy.  Really old ones are (I guess) fairly
easy to break into.  If you can bolt them down it's
even better.  Used safes turn up rarely.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Estate Wagon video - excellent

[E M]

depends, are you going up hill or down?  lol

Ed
300E

2009/6/20 Curt Raymond 

> Holy boat batman! Whats the towing capacity of a 300TD?
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Christopher McCann 
> Subject: [MBZ] W123 Estate Wagon video - excellent
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com, Ian Palko ,Charles
> Binter , webmas...@sspx.org
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt4YNetuKA
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Safe Mania

[E M]

lol, I keep looking around for an old vintage barber chair.

Ed
300E

2009/6/20 LWB250 

>
> For some reason I have gotten the idea that I need an old safe.  Maybe to
> store stuff in, I don't know.  It's one of those "cruising Craigslist and
> seeing something that makes you think, "It would be cool to have one of
> those..."
>
> Anyone here have any knowledge of safes, and if so, want to share it?
>
> I know they are heavy, but moving it is no problem, as I have all the
> rigging and stuff I need from work.
>
> Dan
>
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[MBZ] Safe Mania

[LWB250]

For some reason I have gotten the idea that I need an old safe.  Maybe to store 
stuff in, I don't know.  It's one of those "cruising Craigslist and seeing 
something that makes you think, "It would be cool to have one of those..."

Anyone here have any knowledge of safes, and if so, want to share it?

I know they are heavy, but moving it is no problem, as I have all the rigging 
and stuff I need from work.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

well the seafoam didnt seem to work, so Im going to try and pull the 
carb off and see what I can figure out.


E M wrote:

nah, bubble bath doesn't work very well for such things.

Ed
300E

2009/6/20 Kaleb C. Striplin 

  

Maybe i should try some of that seafoam stuff first.

Jim Cathey wrote:



Sounds like you got crud in a jet.  Take it apart and clean
it out.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[dave walton]

If they are using a non-standard drive controller, you are screwed
until they come out with drivers for XP.

What model laptop?

-Dave Walton

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:24 PM, LarryT wrote:
> The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista Ultimate.  I have been
> trying to install my copy of XP Home wince early April when I decided the
> "improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it impossible for me to live
> with Vista.  Since then I have been progresively moved up the Help Chain
> getting more and more experienced (and less and less knowledgable)
> "experts".  None seem to know how to install XP onto a SATA Hard drive -
> even the *new* 500GB HD I bought specifically for this purpose.
>
> Absolutely no luck in getting XP running on a SATA HD - so don;t believe the
> salespeople who tell you XP can be installed easily. Even using nLight to
> integrate the drivers into the XP install discs have not worked.  Will try
> it again just to be sure.  I'm pretty computer literate but when they start
> offering instructions it's like they are speaking another language - one
> *they* don't understand either
>
> I installed Vista in my new HD hoping it would be easier to work with if it
> were installed with *my* specific wants considered from the get-go.  No such
> luck -
>
> I finally found out how to install XP as a second OS - but it's not very
> easy to work with
>
> Not much fun so I've gone back to my Acer with XP Home
>
> Good luck -
> LarryT  91 300D
>
> "How come the proposed
> 'univ health care'
> excludes congress?"
> - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:16 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
>
>
>> According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow buyers of "higher end"
>> versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP at no extra charge.
>>
>> By Doug Barney
>> Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine
>>
>> Windows 7: You Can
>> Go Back
>> When Vista came out, many new users clamored for the right to move back to
>> XP. Unfortunately, going back wasn't always easy and wasn't usually free.
>> With that lesson in mind, Microsoft
>> just announced that
>> new Windows 7 customers will have a year-and-a-half to move back down to XP
>> or even Vista (however, the plan only applies to high-end versions of
>> Windows 7).
>>
>> While this is a nice gesture, I think downgraders will be few and far
>> between -- maybe just those who depend on that random app that Windows 7
>> chokes on. What would make you want or need to go back to XP? And would
>> there ever be a reason to move from Windows 7 to Vista? Answers readily read
>> at dbar...@redmondmag.com.
>>
>>
>> http://redmondmag.com/blogs/doug-barney/2009/06/windows-7-you-can-go-back.aspx
>>
>> Personally, the more I use OSX, the more i like it.  No 64 bit migration
>> problems.  It has always been 64 bit.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[LWB250]

Get a Mac and run whatever Windows operating system you want XP, Vista, 
etc., using BootCamp or a virtual machine like Parallels or Virtual Box (free!)

I just set up XP under BootCamp on the youngest's 17" C2D iMac, as his XBox is 
in the shop and he had some Windows games he wanted to play.

MacDan


--- On Sat, 6/20/09, LarryT  wrote:

> From: LarryT 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7  FWIW
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:24 PM
> The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late
> march has Vista Ultimate.  I have been trying to
> install my copy of XP Home wince early April when I decided
> the "improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it
> impossible for me to live with Vista.  Since then I
> have been progresively moved up the Help Chain getting more
> and more experienced (and less and less knowledgable)
> "experts".  None seem to know how to install XP onto a
> SATA Hard drive - even the *new* 500GB HD I bought
> specifically for this purpose.
> 
> Absolutely no luck in getting XP running on a SATA HD - so
> don;t believe the salespeople who tell you XP can be
> installed easily. Even using nLight to integrate the drivers
> into the XP install discs have not worked.  Will try it
> again just to be sure.  I'm pretty computer literate
> but when they start offering instructions it's like they are
> speaking another language - one *they* don't understand
> either
> 
> I installed Vista in my new HD hoping it would be easier to
> work with if it were installed with *my* specific wants
> considered from the get-go.  No such luck -
> 
> I finally found out how to install XP as a second OS - but
> it's not very easy to work with
> 
> Not much fun so I've gone back to my Acer with XP Home
> 
> Good luck -
> LarryT  91 300D
> 
> "How come the proposed
> 'univ health care'
> excludes congress?"
> - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:16 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
> 
> 
> > According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow
> buyers of "higher end" versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP
> at no extra charge.
> > 
> > By Doug Barney
> > Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine
> > 
> > Windows
> 7: You Can Go Back
> > When Vista came out, many new users clamored for the
> right to move back to XP. Unfortunately, going back wasn't
> always easy and wasn't usually free. With that lesson in
> mind, Microsoft just
> announced that new Windows 7 customers will have a
> year-and-a-half to move back down to XP or even Vista
> (however, the plan only applies to high-end versions of
> Windows 7).
> > 
> > While this is a nice gesture, I think downgraders will
> be few and far between -- maybe just those who depend on
> that random app that Windows 7 chokes on. What would make
> you want or need to go back to XP? And would there ever be a
> reason to move from Windows 7 to Vista? Answers readily read
> at dbar...@redmondmag.com.
> > 
> > http://redmondmag.com/blogs/doug-barney/2009/06/windows-7-you-can-go-back.aspx
> > 
> > Personally, the more I use OSX, the more i like
> it.  No 64 bit migration problems.  It has always
> been 64 bit.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl

[MG]

I do, not to be confused with Bush. Lots of decorative possibilities 
and with a new house coming along rather nicely I do have to think 
about that.


Manfred


Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:19:10 -0500
From: Mountain Man 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl

Manfred> wrote:
> Interesting mental image that induces. Probably just my dirty nerve
> connections up there.

You have dirty nerve connections?  Hmmm...
Oh, you like bush.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[LWB250]

Now that I think about this it sounds bogus.  We were using HP desktops 
downgraded to XP a year ago that had SATA drives in them.

Have you low level formatted the drive and started from scratch?

Dan

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Barry Stark  wrote:

> From: Barry Stark 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7  FWIW
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:58 PM
> Larry -
> That seems strange to me as my 3 year old Dell desktop has
> a 320Gb SATA hard
> drive and I just recently purchased an OEM copy of XP pro
> and installed it
> without incident. Could it have something to do with the
> laptop BIOS somehow
> not being compatible with XP or driver problems?
> 
> Barry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of LarryT
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
> 
> The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista
> Ultimate.  I have been 
> trying to install my copy of XP Home wince early April when
> I decided the 
> "improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it
> impossible for me to live
> 
> with Vista.  Since then I have been progresively moved
> up the Help Chain 
> getting more and more experienced (and less and less
> knowledgable) 
> "experts".  None seem to know how to install XP onto a
> SATA Hard drive - 
> even the *new* 500GB HD I bought specifically for this
> purpose.
> 
> Absolutely no luck in getting XP running on a SATA HD - so
> don;t believe the
> 
> salespeople who tell you XP can be installed easily. Even
> using nLight to 
> integrate the drivers into the XP install discs have not
> worked.  Will try 
> it again just to be sure.  I'm pretty computer
> literate but when they start 
> offering instructions it's like they are speaking another
> language - one 
> *they* don't understand either
> 
> I installed Vista in my new HD hoping it would be easier to
> work with if it 
> were installed with *my* specific wants considered from the
> get-go.  No such
> 
> luck -
> 
> I finally found out how to install XP as a second OS - but
> it's not very 
> easy to work with
> 
> Not much fun so I've gone back to my Acer with XP Home
> 
> Good luck -
> LarryT  91 300D
> 
> "How come the proposed
>  'univ health care'
> excludes congress?"
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Loren Faeth" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:16 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW
> 
> 
> > According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow
> buyers of "higher end" 
> > versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP at no extra
> charge.
> >
> > By Doug Barney
> > Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine
> >
> > Windows
> 7: You Can
> 
> > Go Back
> > When Vista came out, many new users clamored for the
> right to move back to
> 
> > XP. Unfortunately, going back wasn't always easy and
> wasn't usually free. 
> > With that lesson in mind, Microsoft 
> > just
> announced 
> > that new Windows 7 customers will have a
> year-and-a-half to move back down
> 
> > to XP or even Vista (however, the plan only applies to
> high-end versions 
> > of Windows 7).
> >
> > While this is a nice gesture, I think downgraders will
> be few and far 
> > between -- maybe just those who depend on that random
> app that Windows 7 
> > chokes on. What would make you want or need to go back
> to XP? And would 
> > there ever be a reason to move from Windows 7 to
> Vista? Answers readily 
> > read at dbar...@redmondmag.com.
> >
> >
> http://redmondmag.com/blogs/doug-barney/2009/06/windows-7-you-can-go-back.as
> px
> >
> > Personally, the more I use OSX, the more i like
> it.  No 64 bit migration 
> > problems.  It has always been 64 bit.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[Barry Stark]

Larry -
That seems strange to me as my 3 year old Dell desktop has a 320Gb SATA hard
drive and I just recently purchased an OEM copy of XP pro and installed it
without incident. Could it have something to do with the laptop BIOS somehow
not being compatible with XP or driver problems?

Barry

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of LarryT
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista Ultimate.  I have been 
trying to install my copy of XP Home wince early April when I decided the 
"improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it impossible for me to live

with Vista.  Since then I have been progresively moved up the Help Chain 
getting more and more experienced (and less and less knowledgable) 
"experts".  None seem to know how to install XP onto a SATA Hard drive - 
even the *new* 500GB HD I bought specifically for this purpose.

Absolutely no luck in getting XP running on a SATA HD - so don;t believe the

salespeople who tell you XP can be installed easily. Even using nLight to 
integrate the drivers into the XP install discs have not worked.  Will try 
it again just to be sure.  I'm pretty computer literate but when they start 
offering instructions it's like they are speaking another language - one 
*they* don't understand either

I installed Vista in my new HD hoping it would be easier to work with if it 
were installed with *my* specific wants considered from the get-go.  No such

luck -

I finally found out how to install XP as a second OS - but it's not very 
easy to work with

Not much fun so I've gone back to my Acer with XP Home

Good luck -
LarryT  91 300D

"How come the proposed
 'univ health care'
excludes congress?"
- Original Message - 
From: "Loren Faeth" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW


> According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow buyers of "higher end" 
> versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP at no extra charge.
>
> By Doug Barney
> Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine
>
> Windows 7: You Can

> Go Back
> When Vista came out, many new users clamored for the right to move back to

> XP. Unfortunately, going back wasn't always easy and wasn't usually free. 
> With that lesson in mind, Microsoft 
> just announced 
> that new Windows 7 customers will have a year-and-a-half to move back down

> to XP or even Vista (however, the plan only applies to high-end versions 
> of Windows 7).
>
> While this is a nice gesture, I think downgraders will be few and far 
> between -- maybe just those who depend on that random app that Windows 7 
> chokes on. What would make you want or need to go back to XP? And would 
> there ever be a reason to move from Windows 7 to Vista? Answers readily 
> read at dbar...@redmondmag.com.
>
>
http://redmondmag.com/blogs/doug-barney/2009/06/windows-7-you-can-go-back.as
px
>
> Personally, the more I use OSX, the more i like it.  No 64 bit migration 
> problems.  It has always been 64 bit.
>
>
> Loren Faeth -- next part --
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Estate Wagon video - excellent

[Curt Raymond]

Holy boat batman! Whats the towing capacity of a 300TD?

-Curt

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann 
Subject: [MBZ] W123 Estate Wagon video - excellent
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com, Ian Palko ,    Charles
    Binter , webmas...@sspx.org
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt4YNetuKA

Very neat video. I like the proper name for the third seat: Kindersitzbank.

Chris




  
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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D wheels and extreme mods

[Curt Raymond]

Pimp My Ride did a Suzuki van once and a Datsun (!) Maxima. I can't remember 
the rapper dude thats on there's name but he'd never even heard of a Datsun...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:26:08 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 67 200D wheels and extreme mods
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Bob Hamilton  wrote:

> I got a kick out of the extreme mods comments.  A couple years ago, I would
> have been delighted to have gone out to the workshop and found the car gone
> and then have the police tell me they were tracking the thief.  And then to
> be taken somewhere and been presented with a fully customized 200D with a
> 3.0L BlueTec, 7 speed transmission, leather interior, sweet sound system,
> etc. etc.


I've had dreams about the "Overhaulin'" TV show taking care of one of my
project cars for me too!

I've watched probably 50 or so episodes of that show, though, and never seen
them restore anything but American cars, except for one VW microbus.  Would
be great to see them do over a classic Benz with an updated drivetrain.

Alex


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

[LarryT]

The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista Ultimate.  I have been 
trying to install my copy of XP Home wince early April when I decided the 
"improvements' MS made when creating Vista made it impossible for me to live 
with Vista.  Since then I have been progresively moved up the Help Chain 
getting more and more experienced (and less and less knowledgable) 
"experts".  None seem to know how to install XP onto a SATA Hard drive - 
even the *new* 500GB HD I bought specifically for this purpose.


Absolutely no luck in getting XP running on a SATA HD - so don;t believe the 
salespeople who tell you XP can be installed easily. Even using nLight to 
integrate the drivers into the XP install discs have not worked.  Will try 
it again just to be sure.  I'm pretty computer literate but when they start 
offering instructions it's like they are speaking another language - one 
*they* don't understand either


I installed Vista in my new HD hoping it would be easier to work with if it 
were installed with *my* specific wants considered from the get-go.  No such 
luck -


I finally found out how to install XP as a second OS - but it's not very 
easy to work with


Not much fun so I've gone back to my Acer with XP Home

Good luck -
LarryT  91 300D

"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"
- Original Message - 
From: "Loren Faeth" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW


According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow buyers of "higher end" 
versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP at no extra charge.


By Doug Barney
Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine

Windows 7: You Can 
Go Back
When Vista came out, many new users clamored for the right to move back to 
XP. Unfortunately, going back wasn't always easy and wasn't usually free. 
With that lesson in mind, Microsoft 
just announced 
that new Windows 7 customers will have a year-and-a-half to move back down 
to XP or even Vista (however, the plan only applies to high-end versions 
of Windows 7).


While this is a nice gesture, I think downgraders will be few and far 
between -- maybe just those who depend on that random app that Windows 7 
chokes on. What would make you want or need to go back to XP? And would 
there ever be a reason to move from Windows 7 to Vista? Answers readily 
read at dbar...@redmondmag.com.


http://redmondmag.com/blogs/doug-barney/2009/06/windows-7-you-can-go-back.aspx

Personally, the more I use OSX, the more i like it.  No 64 bit migration 
problems.  It has always been 64 bit.



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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

Is the car named Rolf?

-Rolf

archer wrote:

From: "Gary Hurst" 
rear discs are vastly overrated.


Rich Thomas <

Can you do any upgrades on the car?  I noticed rear drums, could you
retrofit discs?  Maybe drop a blown 350 in it for a little extra 
mph?

 Chop, drop, channel?  Some AR rims and fat tires?  Flamethrower
exhausts?
 Big thumper sound system?  Some underbody neon?  Hydraulics for some
bouncin and low ridin?  Or maybe some twennyfos and donked?
Other than that it looks pretty nice.
--R



Bob Hamilton wrote:
After 4 years, I have the 200D pretty much finished.  There are 
pictures

and even a video with audio at:
http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D#
I think it looks pretty good.  I've done all the body work and 
painting

myself - learned lots and had patience to get it done.  I drove it
yesterday
morning for the first time in over 4 years.
Definitely a nice car to drive.  Bob


Hi Bob,
How much do you want for it?  Where do you live?
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)

[archer]

From: "Gary Hurst" 
rear discs are vastly overrated.


Rich Thomas <

Can you do any upgrades on the car?  I noticed rear drums, could you
retrofit discs?  Maybe drop a blown 350 in it for a little extra mph?
 Chop, drop, channel?  Some AR rims and fat tires?  Flamethrower
exhausts?
 Big thumper sound system?  Some underbody neon?  Hydraulics for some
bouncin and low ridin?  Or maybe some twennyfos and donked?
Other than that it looks pretty nice.
--R



Bob Hamilton wrote:

After 4 years, I have the 200D pretty much finished.  There are pictures
and even a video with audio at:
http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D#
I think it looks pretty good.  I've done all the body work and painting
myself - learned lots and had patience to get it done.  I drove it
yesterday
morning for the first time in over 4 years.
Definitely a nice car to drive.  Bob


Hi Bob,
How much do you want for it?  Where do you live?
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Dash mat color

[Jim Cathey]

I have a dash mat that I have had for several years and haven't used 
it, since it is light brown. Does anyone know of something simple that 
I can use to dye it black. I have looked for the dye I used to make 
Tyedye tshirts with though cannot find it anymore.


RIT dye?  Fabric store?

Rather than a rug of any sort I'd try the molded plastic Coverlays.
Two of them on our SL's and they look great.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding

[Jim Cathey]

I recall reading somewhere that pushing the pedal 1/2 way down with a 
small board and leaving it like that will keep more than a few drops 
leaking out.

I havent tried this as it doesn't make sense


When the pedal is released vent holes are opened into the
reservoir so that as temperature rises the fluid will leak
back into the tank rather than apply the brakes.  The failure
of this vent is what burned out the rear brakes on my 190D.
Anyway, with the vent closed it's very hard for the fluid
to glug out.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers

[LarryT]

Sorry I'm late responding to this - had a new knee installed and haven't 
been computer friendly for a while.  Knee is healing nicely BTW.


re the Cash for Clunkers (CFC).

There's a few problems no one has mentioned -
These are from the Car & Driver website

"Five Reasons "Cash for Clunkers" is a Joke - Car News

Why Cash for Clunkers is more a political maneuver than substantive help for 
the U.S. auto industry-or the environment.


BY STEVE SILER
June 2009

With news that Congress has passed its ballyhooed $1 billion "Cash for 
Clunkers" bill, we feel compelled to voice our skepticism about the program. 
Here's the bill in a nutshell: Buyers of new vehicles between July 1 and 
November 1 will be given a voucher for $3500 if they forfeit a post-1984 car 
or truck that has been registered for at least one year and has a combined 
fuel economy rating at least 4 mpg lower than their new vehicle. The voucher 
grows to $4500 if the increase in fuel economy is 10 mpg or higher. The old 
car or truck is then crushed and recycled.
Here are five reasons we don't think this program is worth the time it took 
to draft it, let alone a billion dollars:


1) The voucher replaces the trade-in deal you might otherwise get from the 
dealership; it's not in addition to the car's private sale or trade-in 
value. In other words, if you're trading in a car that's worth $3000, your 
net gain is only $500. Although if your car is worth $100, CFC couldn't come 
at a better time.


2) We're not sure how many folks driving cars worth $3500 or less are in the 
market for a new car in the first place. Sure, there's the occasional 
fresh-out-of-college new-hire (we're not sure who's hiring right now, but we'll 
play make-believe) that might still be ready to move from a Dodge Omni to a 
shiny new Honda Insight, but people driving cheap old beaters are probably 
doing so because they can't afford a new car. And $3500 doesn't go far when 
the average transaction price of new cars hovers around $24K. The vouchers 
don't apply toward the purchase of used cars, for which the majority of old 
beaters are traded in.


3) People driving large, gas-gulping old cars and trucks often do so because 
they need the utility those vehicles provide. Old station wagons, for 
example, have few modern counterparts that are as versatile while achieving 
better fuel economy. Ditto pickups, which have gotten bigger and more 
capable but not much more fuel-efficient. And if the government thinks that 
someone is going to step out of a 1994 Dodge Ram into a Honda Fit, they need 
to get out of D.C. a little more often.


4) Naturally, we have some reservations about any bill designed to 
facilitate wiping out-we're sorry, recycling-any automotive species. And let's 
face it, while there are a lot of bona fide clunkers out there, we're afraid 
that a bunch of future classics will get caught in this roundup. We propose, 
then, that a certified auto enthusiast (paid, of course) be placed at all 
certified CFC dealerships to screen the cars that are brought in, returning 
the cool cars-including anything with T-tops-to the streets.


5) Besides cleansing the U.S. of gas-guzzling pigs, the other supposed 
benefit of the CFC program is to provide a short-term boost to the starving 
auto business. However, we hope these legislators don't expect it to 
meaningfully help the domestic automakers. Many of the automobiles with 
fuel-economy ratings high enough to qualify for the vouchers come from Japan 
and Korea.


On the bright side, the cost to taxpayers will be minimal when no one 
actually participates."


Hold on, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.   Another billion in spending. 
still only 1/1000th of a trillion


LarryT
91 300D (Clunker?  at 30mpg's?) ;-/


"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Cash for clunkers


Apparently our government is now going to be giving out coupons if you 
trade in your old "clunker" or "guzzler" on a new vehicle that gets better 
fuel economy.  Up to $4500.  Trade-ins must go to the crusher.


So, looks like buying that clapped out old Benz for a few hundred bucks 
could get you a good start on a new one.


Is the list mom now a coupon millionaire?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] ON-T Sat fun

[Jim Cathey]

Two more hours and I have the bottom cushion mostly
on, and the headrest on, and the back cushion off.
Now I have to cut holes in the new back cushion for
the headrest posts.  Scary.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] W123 Estate Wagon video - excellent

[Christopher McCann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt4YNetuKA

Very neat video. I like the proper name for the third seat: Kindersitzbank.

Chris





  

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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

[John Robbins]

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Do you have a web or youtube link to the EcoCAR competition?


Yep!

http://www.ecocarchallenge.org/
http://greengarageblog.org/

John


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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)

[Gary Hurst]

yeah, poos has a good eye.  i thought there was something "wrong" with the
look in the picture.  he is right that it is the bundts.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, LWB250  wrote:

>
> While it's a beautiful car, and my very favorite model, the bundts look
> like crap on this car.  Go back to the color-keyed covers and steel wheels
> and it would be perfect.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> But very nice - you did a great job of restoration on it.
>
> Dan
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > From: Gary Hurst 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 2:09 PM
> > rear discs are vastly overrated.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Rich Thomas <
> > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Can you do any upgrades on the car?  I noticed
> > rear drums, could you
> > > retrofit discs?  Maybe drop a blown 350 in it for
> > a little extra mph?
> > >  Chop, drop, channel?  Some AR rims and fat
> > tires?  Flamethrower exhausts?
> > >  Big thumper sound system?  Some underbody
> > neon?  Hydraulics for some
> > > bouncin and low ridin?  Or maybe some twennyfos
> > and donked?
> > >
> > > Other than that it looks pretty nice.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > >> After 4 years, I have the 200D pretty much
> > finished.  There are pictures
> > >> and even a video with audio at:
> > >> http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D#
> > >>
> > >> I think it looks pretty good.  I've done all
> > the body work and painting
> > >> myself - learned lots and had patience to get it
> > done.  I drove it yesterday
> > >> morning for the first time in over 4 years.
> > >>
> > >> Definitely a nice car to drive.
> >   Bob
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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)

[LWB250]

While it's a beautiful car, and my very favorite model, the bundts look like 
crap on this car.  Go back to the color-keyed covers and steel wheels and it 
would be perfect.

Just my $0.02.

But very nice - you did a great job of restoration on it.

Dan

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> From: Gary Hurst 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 2:09 PM
> rear discs are vastly overrated.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Can you do any upgrades on the car?  I noticed
> rear drums, could you
> > retrofit discs?  Maybe drop a blown 350 in it for
> a little extra mph?
> >  Chop, drop, channel?  Some AR rims and fat
> tires?  Flamethrower exhausts?
> >  Big thumper sound system?  Some underbody
> neon?  Hydraulics for some
> > bouncin and low ridin?  Or maybe some twennyfos
> and donked?
> >
> > Other than that it looks pretty nice.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > Bob Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >> After 4 years, I have the 200D pretty much
> finished.  There are pictures
> >> and even a video with audio at:
> >> http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D#
> >>
> >> I think it looks pretty good.  I've done all
> the body work and painting
> >> myself - learned lots and had patience to get it
> done.  I drove it yesterday
> >> morning for the first time in over 4 years.
> >>
> >> Definitely a nice car to drive.   
>   Bob
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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D is completed (almost)

[Gary Hurst]

rear discs are vastly overrated.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Can you do any upgrades on the car?  I noticed rear drums, could you
> retrofit discs?  Maybe drop a blown 350 in it for a little extra mph?
>  Chop, drop, channel?  Some AR rims and fat tires?  Flamethrower exhausts?
>  Big thumper sound system?  Some underbody neon?  Hydraulics for some
> bouncin and low ridin?  Or maybe some twennyfos and donked?
>
> Other than that it looks pretty nice.
>
> --R
>
>
> Bob Hamilton wrote:
>
>> After 4 years, I have the 200D pretty much finished.  There are pictures
>> and even a video with audio at:
>> http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D#
>>
>> I think it looks pretty good.  I've done all the body work and painting
>> myself - learned lots and had patience to get it done.  I drove it yesterday
>> morning for the first time in over 4 years.
>>
>> Definitely a nice car to drive.  Bob
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Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding

[LarryT]

Hi Ned,
   Perhaps attach the extra piece of hose to the hose connection at the 
chassis?   I know you'd have to work fast to prevent loss of fluid - but if 
the hose is a tight fit it can be pressed into place quickly and only the 
fluid leaking while unscrewing the hose will be lost.


Maybe??

LarryT  91 300D


"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"

- Original Message - 
From: "ned kleinhenz" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding



>


Good answer, Peter.  But what if you want to change the hoses?

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Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding

[LarryT]

I recall reading somewhere that pushing the pedal 1/2 way down with a small 
board and leaving it like that will keep more than a few drops leaking out.


I havent tried this as it doesn't make sense - but I haven't spent anytime 
contemplating it.  Maybe it will work?


Later -

"How come the proposed
'univ health care'
excludes congress?"


- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding


Is this to suggest theres a way to prevent all the fluid coming out when the 
caliper is disconnected?

I suppose you could pinch the soft line, would that do it any serious harm?
When I was working on my 240D I figured letting the brake fluid run out into 
a pan was the easiest way of changing it...


-Curt

Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:16:07 -0500
From: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Vacuum bleeding with a MitiVac works great. You can tell the
difference between the stream of small bubbles from the bleed screw
and large air bubbles from the empty caliper.

Flush clean fluid in while you are at it, too, no need to operate a
brand new caliper with ancient brake fluid!

Easy to tell when the clean fluid has reached the caliper, too.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding

[LarryT]

Hey Gang -
   This is a great discussion - plus, it jolted my memory of a possible 
problem.  Early last year or possibly in 2007, I replaced my rubber hoses 
(Rusty) &  front calipers with ones purchased from a fellow lister.  They 
were from a '95 300D but fit my 91 W124 300D perfectly.  Trouble is, I 
didn't give a thought to the ABS system during the change!  Completely 
missed the connection -  My bad.


   Now, this means I did what I usually do when replacing calipers - 
disconnect old caliper and rubber brake hoses and replace with new rubber 
hose.   It's been a while but I believe I attached the rubber hoses to the 
calipers immediately after connecting the hoses to the chassis connection. 
I don't recall losing much brake fluid but I did use my pressure bleeder to 
flush new fluid thru the new hoses and calipers.


   My question is (finally) - I did nothing special to bleed the ABS 
system.  I pressure bled the front brake system but don't recall if I did 
the rear - I didn't replace anything in the rear so maybe not.


   Anyway - I don't have any reason to suspect my ABS is not working 
properly.  The system self-test works normally when turning the key to 
start, the brake pedal is firm and the pedal stays where it should when 
sitting with foot on brake pedal.  I have always heard a little chirping 
(like air from a overflow) when applying brakes - the sound has been there 
as long as we have owned the car so I think it's normal.  Am I wrong?? 
Should I flush the ABS somehow?  I'll check the WSM to see what it says ---


Thx gang -
LarryT 91 300D


"How come the proposed
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excludes congress?"

- Original Message - 
From: "Hendrik & Fay" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 ABS brake bleeding


I have had success using a one way valve as found in the vacuum system of 
Benzes.
You just have to get a wee little plastic hose and use a bit of soft wire 
to lock it onto the nipple and valve.


Hendrik
full of tips and tricks and other stuff

OK Don wrote:

Umm - no.  The rear calipers were removed, the rear flexible lines were
removed. The master cylinder was replaced. All new fluid is going in - 
just

need to get it to the rear!






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Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb

[Bill R]

Thanks for the info Tom.  I've been tied up with my writing project and am a
few hundred emails behind once more.  I'm figuring out a few things on the
S320, though I don't get a lot of opportunity to drive it.  I'm just glad my
lead footed darling wife doesn't do distance driving anymore [she covered
Gainesville to Naples some years ago when she was doing medical case
management].  She has already commented that it seems to hit 80 with no
encouragement, and when she starts wondering why everyone else on the road
is going so slowly she has learned to check the speedometer.  I'm sure 140
would be next if she were on the freeway.  The activated carbon filter seems
to be working ok as I only caught a sniff of smoke once, and I doubt she has
stopped just to honor the car.  It is a great ride though, and the first car
that I would rather drive than my '81 300SD.  Each time it has been in for
some issue the dealer has filled the tank, also.  WE have yet to put any
fuel in it, and I suspect they fill it up in hopes that we will not be near
them when we first have to do so.  We might come back and pound on one of
them.  I'm not looking for this to save any fuel costs over her I30.  That
one was bad enough at near 20 MPG, and used regular.  I had them check on
the hydraulic pump on the driver's door, and that one seems to be dead.  I
wonder if the pump is the same for all four doors as a replacement might be
available from a donor car somewhere.  The other three and the trunk all
work fine.  She says she has noticed that people seem to give her a bit of
space when she approaches intersections in this one vs. the I30.  
KALEB - do you have a good hydraulic pump from a rear door that will fit
this thing?
BillR 


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Thomas Savage
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB

Bill R wrote:
> This was dealer maintained all the way, and has factory everything.  I
> have not completely figured out what everything is as yet, but the
> Parktronic is interesting.  

Congrats!  Good choice on a '97 over a '94.  Have you had it up to 100 yet?

At the moment my darling wife is out giving the
> charcoal filter a test run.  Though I have never seen her smoke, she has
> done so since she was a kid.  The air filter is automatic in case of too
> much CO or some other toxin is present, though for her it will be to help
> with second hand smoke. Personally I wonder how effective it might be with
> self generated toxic air.  We are taking it to Atlanta next month and
often
> stop at a BBQ on the way, so I might find out.  

There are three cabin filters on a W140.  The recirc filter is in the 
passenger footwell; the main filter is under the hood on top of the 
blower motor; and the pollen filter behind the evaporator, which is a 
huge PIA, costs $400, and is probably original and doesn't really work 
like it is supposed to at this point.  None of them are automatic, you 
have to push a button to turn on the super filter.  You should check and 
replace the two normal filters; "dealer service" is code for "we pretend 
these don't exist."

I did notice one of
> the hydraulic door closers was not working all the time [drivers door],
but
> that is not something I think of as a necessity.  

Easiest fix in the world, as John said.  You'll miss it when you have to 
slam those heavy doors closed all the time.

The 'clean hand' extending
> trunk closer handle is also a new one on me.  Seems they have come up with
a
> few tricks since my 1981 was built.

My favorite of the new tricks (other than the multilink rear suspension 
and some semblance of rust protection) is the climate control 
diagnostics.  Start it up and hold the "rest" button for five or so 
seconds, and cycle through the options with the "auto" buttons.  You'll 
figure a few of them out, but I can dig up the whole list if you like.

Have fun,
Tom
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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D wheels and extreme mods

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Bob Hamilton  wrote:

> I got a kick out of the extreme mods comments.  A couple years ago, I would
> have been delighted to have gone out to the workshop and found the car gone
> and then have the police tell me they were tracking the thief.  And then to
> be taken somewhere and been presented with a fully customized 200D with a
> 3.0L BlueTec, 7 speed transmission, leather interior, sweet sound system,
> etc. etc.


I've had dreams about the "Overhaulin'" TV show taking care of one of my
project cars for me too!

I've watched probably 50 or so episodes of that show, though, and never seen
them restore anything but American cars, except for one VW microbus.  Would
be great to see them do over a classic Benz with an updated drivetrain.

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Re: [MBZ] 67 200D wheels and extreme mods

[WILTON]

Very well done!  Fantastic job!  Congratulations!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Hamilton" 

To: ; 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:03 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 67 200D wheels and extreme mods


There's a story to the wheels.  The previous (original owner) had taken 
the original wheels off and put on 14" steel wheels.  I got one of the 
original wheels and since he had passed on his daughter didn't know where 
the others were.  I did get 4 original hubcaps.  I thought of welding on 
little tabs on the wheels I got to make the hub caps work.  But, a couple 
years ago I had a 300D that my kids drove.  I had put new GoodYear tires 
on it.  The car started running rough and was getting real hard to start. 
I replaced the injectors and finally took it to a friend who only works on 
Mercedes.  The motor was gone - he bought it from me for $500.  So, as I 
was nearing completion on the 200D, I needed new tires and that got me to 
thinking about those new tires I put on the 300D.  I went to see him and 
the car was still sitting there.  He sold me back the wheels and tires for 
$150.  I did have to make a return trip to swap all the lug bolts as the 
ones for the alloy wheels need to be longer.  So, yes, they aren't 
original, but economically it was a good decision.  I didn't have the 
original wheels.  And the look, though not original, is still classic 
Mercedes.


I got a kick out of the extreme mods comments.  A couple years ago, I 
would have been delighted to have gone out to the workshop and found the 
car gone and then have the police tell me they were tracking the thief. 
And then to be taken somewhere and been presented with a fully customized 
200D with a 3.0L BlueTec, 7 speed transmission, leather interior, sweet 
sound system, etc. etc.  Putting a Chevy or Ford would just not be right. 
A new Mercedes diesel would be sweet.  In fact, my next work car is going 
to be a R320 BlueTec.  But alas, I don't live in California and nobody 
around here does that kind of stuff.  So, I persisted, put in a decent 
sound system and kept the rest original.  O.K. I also tinted the back 
windows.


I did take it for its first highway ride this morning.  It is rock solid 
on the highway.  Smooth, straight down the road.  Great visibility.  I'm 
still working to figure out my one turn signal that isn't working.  I need 
to get that fixed before I can get it to pass a safety.  All my road trips 
right now are illegal - unlicensed and unregistered.  It's kind of fun 
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist 350SD

[WILTON]

If it were 5 inches longer, it'd look just like my SDL.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim C" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Craigslist 350SD


I figure you all can run your own CL searches, but the latest incarnation 
of

this one cracked me up:
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1227425114.html

"Could well be the most cleanest & best 350SD in the country!"

Guess it is for buyers to determine which of the following two statements 
is

true:
"This car does not have one single problem. Everything works like new!"

Obviously not mine,
-Tim

PS - the "420SDL" from some time ago: the seller, who claimed to know
basically nothing about the car's mechanics, never got back to me with
pictures of the engine bay, so it's probably safe to assume it was just a
donor chassis with a modified engine. :/
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[MBZ] Dash mat color

[Douglas]

I have a dash mat that I have had for several years and haven't used it, since 
it is light brown. Does anyone know of something simple that I can use to dye 
it black. I have looked for the dye I used to make Tyedye tshirts with though 
cannot find it anymore.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[E M]

nah, bubble bath doesn't work very well for such things.

Ed
300E

2009/6/20 Kaleb C. Striplin 

> Maybe i should try some of that seafoam stuff first.
>
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you got crud in a jet.  Take it apart and clean
>> it out.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
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> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
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[MBZ] ON-T Sat fun

[Jim Cathey]

My fun is trying to install the new GAHH seat covers
on the 380 SL.  45 minutes in and I've managed to liberate
one seat cushion's pad... this could take all day!

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[MBZ] OT Sat fun

[Rich Thomas]

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/06/stop-motion_post-it_pixel_short.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890

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[MBZ] 67 200D wheels and extreme mods

[Bob Hamilton]

There's a story to the wheels.  The previous (original owner) had taken the 
original wheels off and put on 14" steel wheels.  I got one of the original 
wheels and since he had passed on his daughter didn't know where the others 
were.  I did get 4 original hubcaps.  I thought of welding on little tabs on 
the wheels I got to make the hub caps work.  But, a couple years ago I had a 
300D that my kids drove.  I had put new GoodYear tires on it.  The car started 
running rough and was getting real hard to start.  I replaced the injectors and 
finally took it to a friend who only works on Mercedes.  The motor was gone - 
he bought it from me for $500.  So, as I was nearing completion on the 200D, I 
needed new tires and that got me to thinking about those new tires I put on the 
300D.  I went to see him and the car was still sitting there.  He sold me back 
the wheels and tires for $150.  I did have to make a return trip to swap all 
the lug bolts as the ones for the alloy wheels need to be longer.  So, yes, 
they aren't original, but economically it was a good decision.  I didn't have 
the original wheels.  And the look, though not original, is still classic 
Mercedes.

I got a kick out of the extreme mods comments.  A couple years ago, I would 
have been delighted to have gone out to the workshop and found the car gone and 
then have the police tell me they were tracking the thief.  And then to be 
taken somewhere and been presented with a fully customized 200D with a 3.0L 
BlueTec, 7 speed transmission, leather interior, sweet sound system, etc. etc.  
Putting a Chevy or Ford would just not be right.  A new Mercedes diesel would 
be sweet.  In fact, my next work car is going to be a R320 BlueTec.  But alas, 
I don't live in California and nobody around here does that kind of stuff.  So, 
I persisted, put in a decent sound system and kept the rest original.  O.K. I 
also tinted the back windows.

I did take it for its first highway ride this morning.  It is rock solid on the 
highway.  Smooth, straight down the road.  Great visibility.  I'm still working 
to figure out my one turn signal that isn't working.  I need to get that fixed 
before I can get it to pass a safety.  All my road trips right now are illegal 
- unlicensed and unregistered.  It's kind of fun running from the law!. 
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers details

[Curt Raymond]

Actually...

My '84 240D averages around 28mpg and GM makes MANY cars that get around 30mpg. 
Not super-econo-boxes either. The Malibu for instance is rated 22/33 and is a 
pretty good car...

BTW The PT Cruiser is rated ('09 anyway) 21/26. The one I had in Burbank last 
week came in at exactly 21 on the nose. I thrashed it though, I could see 
pulling 26. The problem is its TOO DAMMED SMALL to get that sort of low 
mileage. I see where Chrysler considers it an SUV, I consider it a really small 
station wagon that gets horrible mileage considering how under-powered it is.

My 240D started like a champ yesterday and felt way more comfortable and 
solid...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:22:32 -0500
From: Mountain Man 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers details
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Mitch wrote:
> "And some customers are holding back on purchases until the program takes
> effect, hurting dealers in the short term."

Lesseee I filled 10 gallons and the trip odo read 330 miles.
Is there something new that can beat my '84 240D with clutch?
...too bad, I guess I don't get to trade my working, fixable car for a
fine new car made in amerika.
What cars are there on the market that could do better than 240D, and
what price?
mao




  
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers details

[Gary Hurst]

the 1984 rule kills me.  i don't have any "clunkers" that new

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Rich Thomas wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure Kaleb will qualify.
>>
>> http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/706996.html
>>
>
> "And some customers are holding back on purchases until the program takes
> effect, hurting dealers in the short term."
>
> Right there you have a huge reason for the final destruction of our auto
> industry. Nobody has wanted to buy a car since the November election, for
> fear of missing out on a future $4000 government handout.
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel in summer

[Curt Raymond]

Its time to run down the basics, fuel filter(s?), air filter, oil change, maybe 
even a can of diesel purge.
I wouldn't have believed it but Marshall used to say dirty fuel filters would 
make fuel economy fall. One time I let the filters in my 240D get really bad 
and yup, mileage was noticably worse...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:24:59 -0500
From: Donald Snook 
Subject: [MBZ] Diesel in summer
To: "Mercedes@okiebenz.com" 
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I
was talking to a guy in our building this morning and he said he had a
Jetta Diesel and he noticed last summer (and so far this summer) that
his mileage has dropped from the low 40's to low 30's.  I told him I
thought it was just because he was using his a/c.  But, he said that he
has been using the a/c throughout  the spring and his mileage had not
dropped.   So, here's the puzzle.  ASSUMING he is accurate (and I am
not sure that he is), why would a diesel get worse fuel mileage in the
hot summer?

Donald H. Snook


  
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[MBZ] Craigslist 350SD

[Tim C]

I figure you all can run your own CL searches, but the latest incarnation of
this one cracked me up:
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1227425114.html

"Could well be the most cleanest & best 350SD in the country!"

Guess it is for buyers to determine which of the following two statements is
true:
"This car does not have one single problem. Everything works like new!"

Obviously not mine,
-Tim

PS - the "420SDL" from some time ago: the seller, who claimed to know
basically nothing about the car's mechanics, never got back to me with
pictures of the engine bay, so it's probably safe to assume it was just a
donor chassis with a modified engine. :/
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Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD wiring aux fan to run when AC is on

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:59:34 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> If I simply jumper the wires at the switch, the fan will run as soon as
> the key is turned on.  I just want it to run when the compressor turns
> on.  What is the best way to go about this?

Add an ice-cube relay. Wire the coil in parallel with the compressor
clutch. Wire a set of normally-open contacts in parallel with the
temperature switch.


> Probably going to add a can of that arctic boost stuff Zippy loves as
> well.

Zippy?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT, lawnmower surges at idle

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Maybe i should try some of that seafoam stuff first.

Jim Cathey wrote:

Sounds like you got crud in a jet.  Take it apart and clean
it out.

-- Jim



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