Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses
WILTON wrote: Ooops. Oh, I messed up! He sent 'em directly ro me. I thought they were to the list. 'Sorry. He did it right, he sent it to the list with a courtesy copy to Wilton. So Wilton got it right away, the rest of us got a link to it after Kleb approved his message. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses
It was DEFINITELY the radio amplifier in the trunk, NOT the cell phone. I was talking 'bout the cell phone box, 'cause I thought when I got into the trunk that that box was the radio amp; quickly realized it (the box) was the phone; 'didn't find the radio amp 'til I was locking up for the day. Culprit was radio amp. 'Went out this morning and plugged stuff back in; now to hope everything is working OK. BTW, found no drain at battery; antenna and radio amp in trunk remain unplugged. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses OK, so it was definitely the radio amplifier, or definitely the cell phone box that was the culprit? Your announcement was a bit confusing to me, you were talking about both... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses
Thanks, Mitch, and thanks, again, Scott. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric drain/fuses WILTON wrote: Ooops. Oh, I messed up! He sent 'em directly ro me. I thought they were to the list. 'Sorry. He did it right, he sent it to the list with a courtesy copy to Wilton. So Wilton got it right away, the rest of us got a link to it after Kleb approved his message. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 Power steering pump
OK, on to another project. I've been nursing the power steering pump on my 91 350SDL for years. It would get a bit noisy; I'd top it up with very small amount of fluid, and it would be quiet for many months. Several months ago, it was slightly noisy, and I topped it up, but it continues to be constantly slightly noisy (not loud at all, but I hear it). 'Time to finally do something about it. New or rebuilt one from Rusty, I'm thinking? Some are probably going to say, Rebuild it, yourself. In earlier times, I would have, but now, I'll just write check. Are the good shops that rebuild them? I'm thinking, I'll just write a check (credit card) to Rusty. Working up list for Rusty, now; shall I include power steering pump? Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/b155af7e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Radio amplifier
If you've been following my problems with battery electric drain on my 91 350SDL for the past three weeks or so (way too long!), you now know that the culprit was a defective radio amplifier in the trunk. Where can I get an amplifier repaired or, if necessary, get a new one, i. e., aside from big $$$ to MB? Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/f37dfb07/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio amplifier
http://www.beckerautosound.com/ This may work for you assuming it's a Becker. Steve On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If you've been following my problems with battery electric drain on my 91 350SDL for the past three weeks or so (way too long!), you now know that the culprit was a defective radio amplifier in the trunk. Where can I get an amplifier repaired or, if necessary, get a new one, i. e., aside from big $$$ to MB? Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/f37dfb07/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/a60b2a75/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boost Pressure on 1984 300D
That is not true, perhaps increased wear but no melted pistons. I know many people who, either on accident (myself with a rotted hose) or on purpose (crazy people) who have run with out wastegate hose. Even with the overboost protection removed it was not until I got to the end of a 400mile drive through the mountains that I found mine loose. It's certainly not a good idea for all kinds of reason but there is no need to worry about your pistons melting. -Rolf Peter Frederick wrote: Absolute max 12.9, anything more and the pistons seem to get all squishy on top for some reason. 12 is good, 10 will feel very sluggish. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio amplifier
WILTON wrote: If you've been following my problems with battery electric drain on my 91 350SDL for the past three weeks or so (way too long!), you now know that the culprit was a defective radio amplifier in the trunk. Where can I get an amplifier repaired or, if necessary, get a new one, i. e., aside from big $$$ to MB? I'd ask that question of Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What is a track arm?
I went to the dealership for an alignment and they said my track arms need to be replaced. I have never heard of this term and wonder if its UCA or LCA or? I have heard of tie rods being called track rods but not sure what the track arms are. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123/126 steerinb box rebuild?
Also anyone rebuilt a steering box before? Suggestions? Recommendations? Hints? I have seen the DIY floating around. Doesn't look horribly difficult if you are careful. I have 2 in the cars that need to be rebuild and 1 123 and 1 126 that I planned on selling afterwards. For the price they charge for rebuilts they should bring a decent penny for a junkyard find and a $20 kit. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD
Does anyone know if a 55 gallon drum will fit in the back of the 1982 wagon? I am going to pick up a couple of them and would rater not ask the wife for Caravan. :{) Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) What is a track arm?
I went to the dealership for an alignment and they said my track arms need to be replaced. I have never heard of this term and wonder if its UCA or LCA or? I have heard of tie rods being called track rods but not sure what the track arms are. Aren't those the support links that go rearwards to the chassis? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
MB Classic, never heard of it. relng...@aol.com wrote: While paging through MB Classic at BN today, I came across a multipage picture article about the 126. Talks about what goes wrong, where the rust is, which one to buy, which has the most value, which engines are most popular with their advice. There is a big table showing serial numbers vs. years of production. There are also a few words about reimporting cars to Germany and that diesel 126s have no market there. They like the 3.0 and 5.6 engines best. It's well worth the trip to BN to read this magazine, free of course. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/d8188415/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/995e37c1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD
Michael Esh wrote: Does anyone know if a 55 gallon drum will fit in the back of the 1982 wagon? I am going to pick up a couple of them and would rater not ask the wife for Caravan. :{) I'm 99.9% sure 'a drum' would fit in the back of a S123 laying down lengthwise. Not so sure that two would fit back there at the same time. Reasonably sure it can't fit under the roof standing on end. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What is a track arm?
Also called Track Rod/Guide Rod -- it attaches to the firewall behind the front wheel, has a ball and socket joint that can wear out (you can buy just that part or the arm bushings and socket both), attaches to the back of the LCA with some sort of joint (bushings etc), which can also wear out. Keeps the wheel from moving fore/aft. If that is what they are talking about. The parts aren't much and the replacement isn't very hard either. You could do it yourself pretty easily. Track Rod Mount (big ball joints on firewall) $55 Guide Rod Mount Kit (bushings etc.) $14 (This was a few years ago on price) http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm --R Jim Cathey wrote: I went to the dealership for an alignment and they said my track arms need to be replaced. I have never heard of this term and wonder if its UCA or LCA or? I have heard of tie rods being called track rods but not sure what the track arms are. Aren't those the support links that go rearwards to the chassis? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/eabf2f77/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
also known as guide rods, brake support rods. They run from the lower control arm to a big bushing mounted to the body. Its the mount/bushing that goes bad. Very common. winmutt wrote: I went to the dealership for an alignment and they said my track arms need to be replaced. I have never heard of this term and wonder if its UCA or LCA or? I have heard of tie rods being called track rods but not sure what the track arms are. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/fa33c661/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD
As I recall it can fit something about 34 high, but don't hold me to that. A drum is not quite that big diameter so should fit, at least one, maybe 2 side by side ( though that might not work)? Are they about 4ft high, maybe 2ft diameter? --R Michael Esh wrote: Does anyone know if a 55 gallon drum will fit in the back of the 1982 wagon? I am going to pick up a couple of them and would rater not ask the wife for Caravan. :{) Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Power steering pump
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:24:39 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: but it continues to be constantly slightly noisy (not loud at all, but I hear it). 'Time to finally do something about it. New or rebuilt one from Rusty, I'm thinking? It certainly depends upon what comes in the rebuild kit. If the rebuild kit has only gaskets and seals, it most likely won't cure a constantly noisy pump. I took the new route for the '94 E420. I hope yours is not as expensive nor as hard to get out. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD
My burn barrel is just under 24 in diameter, and 36 high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD
It's a wagon. Put it on the roof. Be sure to send us photos! Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD As I recall it can fit something about 34 high, but don't hold me to that. A drum is not quite that big diameter so should fit, at least one, maybe 2 side by side ( though that might not work)? Are they about 4ft high, maybe 2ft diameter? --R Michael Esh wrote: Does anyone know if a 55 gallon drum will fit in the back of the 1982 wagon? I am going to pick up a couple of them and would rater not ask the wife for Caravan. :{) Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD
With the lower back seats removed it should fit. And there is always the roof, I borught home 8 bales of pine straw and 35 bags of bark recently. Should have had a picture of that :( -Rolf R A Bennell wrote: It's a wagon. Put it on the roof. Be sure to send us photos! Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 55 gallon drum - 300 TD As I recall it can fit something about 34 high, but don't hold me to that. A drum is not quite that big diameter so should fit, at least one, maybe 2 side by side ( though that might not work)? Are they about 4ft high, maybe 2ft diameter? --R Michael Esh wrote: Does anyone know if a 55 gallon drum will fit in the back of the 1982 wagon? I am going to pick up a couple of them and would rater not ask the wife for Caravan. :{) Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
Jim, Rich, Kaleb thanks. Just not sure why its called a arm. The guide rod lca bushing requires a spring compressor no? -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: Also called Track Rod/Guide Rod -- it attaches to the firewall behind the front wheel, has a ball and socket joint that can wear out (you can buy just that part or the arm bushings and socket both), attaches to the back of the LCA with some sort of joint (bushings etc), which can also wear out. Keeps the wheel from moving fore/aft. If that is what they are talking about. The parts aren't much and the replacement isn't very hard either. You could do it yourself pretty easily. Track Rod Mount (big ball joints on firewall) $55 Guide Rod Mount Kit (bushings etc.) $14 (This was a few years ago on price) http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm --R Jim Cathey wrote: I went to the dealership for an alignment and they said my track arms need to be replaced. I have never heard of this term and wonder if its UCA or LCA or? I have heard of tie rods being called track rods but not sure what the track arms are. Aren't those the support links that go rearwards to the chassis? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/eabf2f77/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. Chris --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:47 AM MB Classic, never heard of it. relng...@aol.com wrote: While paging through MB Classic at BN today, I came across a multipage picture article about the 126. Talks about what goes wrong, where the rust is, which one to buy, which has the most value, which engines are most popular with their advice. There is a big table showing serial numbers vs. years of production. There are also a few words about reimporting cars to Germany and that diesel 126s have no market there. They like the 3.0 and 5.6 engines best. It's well worth the trip to BN to read this magazine, free of course. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/d8188415/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/995e37c1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
The guide rod can be replaced without a spring compressor. According to Kaleb, hook the LCA to an immobile object (concrete pillar or tree) with a come-a-long and slowly winch the LCA forward until the guide rod mount can be taken loose. Luther winmutt wrote: Jim, Rich, Kaleb thanks. Just not sure why its called a arm. The guide rod lca bushing requires a spring compressor no? -Rolf -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
Yes but the bushing in there sits under the spring perch? -Rolf Benz Hogs wrote: The guide rod can be replaced without a spring compressor. According to Kaleb, hook the LCA to an immobile object (concrete pillar or tree) with a come-a-long and slowly winch the LCA forward until the guide rod mount can be taken loose. Luther winmutt wrote: Jim, Rich, Kaleb thanks. Just not sure why its called a arm. The guide rod lca bushing requires a spring compressor no? -Rolf -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
Look at the scan of the PP catalog in the link I sent you -- it has locations of the various bits. --R winmutt wrote: Yes but the bushing in there sits under the spring perch? -Rolf Benz Hogs wrote: The guide rod can be replaced without a spring compressor. According to Kaleb, hook the LCA to an immobile object (concrete pillar or tree) with a come-a-long and slowly winch the LCA forward until the guide rod mount can be taken loose. Luther winmutt wrote: Jim, Rich, Kaleb thanks. Just not sure why its called a arm. The guide rod lca bushing requires a spring compressor no? -Rolf -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Win7 and XP
This link is for a technet video about the XP mode of Win 7 http://edge.technet.com/Media/Windows-XP-mode-for-Windows-7/ In the sidebar of the link above, there are additional videos of interest: * http://edge.technet.com/Media/How-to-use-the-new-VHD-features-of-Windows-7--Server-2008-R2/How to use the new VHD features of Windows 7 / Server 2008 R2 * Includes booting into a virtual machine. * http://edge.technet.com/Media/User-State-Migration-with-Windows-7/Migrating from Windows XP to W t Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta * Migration from XP ro WIn 7 using the deployment toolkit http://edge.technet.com/Media/Windows-XP-Migration-to-Windows-7-RC-using-MDT-Beta-1-Part-1-The-OS-Install/Windows XP Migration to Window eta 1 - Part 1: The OS Install Windows 7 price and discounts: http://mcpmag.com/articles/2009/06/25/windows-7-pricing-discounts-unveiled.aspx Loren Faeth -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/69f68525/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio amplifier
Radio in center console has Mercedes Benz label; amp in trunk has MB part # 001 820 92 89. Wilton - Original Message - From: SteveB mguzzir...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio amplifier http://www.beckerautosound.com/ This may work for you assuming it's a Becker. Steve On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If you've been following my problems with battery electric drain on my 91 350SDL for the past three weeks or so (way too long!), you now know that the culprit was a defective radio amplifier in the trunk. Where can I get an amplifier repaired or, if necessary, get a new one, i. e., aside from big $$$ to MB? Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/f37dfb07/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/a60b2a75/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
My wife and son are thinking about replacing the tan MB-Tex seats in our project 1985 300CD and I wanted to find out what seats will fit. I am assuming that the rear seat is special to the coupe? Will any 300D front seats work? I believe that I have read here about list members using pool noodles and whatnot to repair the seat bottoms. My wife is somewhat skeptical about the durability of these repairs and is curious to see how long these repairs have lasted before needing redone or replaced. Thanks as always Todd Smith Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
Don't the front seat backs have to hinge forward for back seat entry/exit? Wilton - Original Message - From: Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility My wife and son are thinking about replacing the tan MB-Tex seats in our project 1985 300CD and I wanted to find out what seats will fit. I am assuming that the rear seat is special to the coupe? Will any 300D front seats work? I believe that I have read here about list members using pool noodles and whatnot to repair the seat bottoms. My wife is somewhat skeptical about the durability of these repairs and is curious to see how long these repairs have lasted before needing redone or replaced. Thanks as always Todd Smith Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. So, what in the world is BN? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
WILTON wrote: Don't the front seat backs have to hinge forward for back seat entry/exit? Indeed, if you want access to the back seat. It might be possible to put the soft parts from another 123 seat on the coupe front seat framework. Hopefully a voice of experience can chime in here. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
Barnes Noble http://www.worldcarfans.com/104033110842/new-mb-classic-magazine-is-launched http://www.germancarzone.com/older-mbs-classics/22683-mb-classic-mercedes-benz-strich-8s.html http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-MERCEDES-BENZ-CLASSIC-MAGAZINE-PAGODA-SL-230-280_W0QQitemZ220439955086QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090623?IMSfp=TL090623154002r21199 Chris 1985 300SD 243K miles --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 1:00 PM On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. So, what in the world is BN? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
I made the trip at lunchtime and they were out of them. --R Christopher McCann wrote: Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. Chris --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:47 AM MB Classic, never heard of it. relng...@aol.com wrote: While paging through MB Classic at BN today, I came across a multipage picture article about the 126. Talks about what goes wrong, where the rust is, which one to buy, which has the most value, which engines are most popular with their advice. There is a big table showing serial numbers vs. years of production. There are also a few words about reimporting cars to Germany and that diesel 126s have no market there. They like the 3.0 and 5.6 engines best. It's well worth the trip to BN to read this magazine, free of course. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/d8188415/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/995e37c1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/2ec1b908/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
If the spring base is intact, the effort to repad the seat is not all that bad. I used a piece of scrap carpet first on top of the spring base tied on with nylong pull ties. Then added the fibrefill type padding on top of that and slipped the cover back on. A major improvement at very little expense and minimal effort. I did not put the pool noodle into the spring base as I did not think the seat needed to be firmer. I think now that the seat has been used for a bit that I should pull the cover again and add a bit more fo the padding but it is not bad as it is. Now I have issues with the seat back as the horsehair pad is deteriorating. Don't know if anyone has come up with a do it yourself repair for the backs or if the general concensus is that one just orders new horsehair pads for the seat backs. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Smith, Todd Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:40 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility My wife and son are thinking about replacing the tan MB-Tex seats in our project 1985 300CD and I wanted to find out what seats will fit. I am assuming that the rear seat is special to the coupe? Will any 300D front seats work? I believe that I have read here about list members using pool noodles and whatnot to repair the seat bottoms. My wife is somewhat skeptical about the durability of these repairs and is curious to see how long these repairs have lasted before needing redone or replaced. Thanks as always Todd Smith Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
yep, that is exactly right. Benz Hogs wrote: The guide rod can be replaced without a spring compressor. According to Kaleb, hook the LCA to an immobile object (concrete pillar or tree) with a come-a-long and slowly winch the LCA forward until the guide rod mount can be taken loose. Luther winmutt wrote: Jim, Rich, Kaleb thanks. Just not sure why its called a arm. The guide rod lca bushing requires a spring compressor no? -Rolf -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
You dont remove that part, you remove it where it bolts to the body, and unscrew out the adjustment on the arm. When you put it back together, you will have to get an alignment done. winmutt wrote: Yes but the bushing in there sits under the spring perch? -Rolf -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
yep, only coupe seats will work. WILTON wrote: Don't the front seat backs have to hinge forward for back seat entry/exit? Wilton -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WOW! This is unique
My mother in law had a Pacer when it was new and 2 Gremlins previous to that. Pretty basic cars but they were not too bad. The Gremlins were olive green and caramel colored and the Pacer was caramel as well. I do remember the one Gremlin squeaking terribly. They had to drive down a gravel road to and from the highway and I think the dust got into something in the front suspension. I recall them trying to spray WD40 or something similar in on the spring etc but it did not help much. About enough to drive you crazy. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WOW! This is unique On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:49 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Now, if you can find a Pacer you could own 2 of the ugliest cars ever made. One reason the Pacer was so ugly was its weird proportions, which I think were actually well-intentioned---the designers tried to make a small car that still seemed roomy inside by making it very wide for its length. (Wider than a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow, according to Wikipedia!) Quite different from the prevailing style in which subcompacts are tall and narrow. I think the short, wide design is arguably better suited to American roads, while a narrow car works better on European and Japanese roads. But there's no way to make a short, wide car attractive. I was at an orphan car meet this past weekend that featured a few AMCs, including a Gremlin and a Maverick, but no Pacers. I wanted to take a picture from directly behind, from which angle, because of the bulging side glass and inboard C-pillars, the Pacer looks like a fat guy wearing suspenders. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/2bea5cf5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
MB Classic, never heard of it Somehow, I don't picture you spending much time in a book store. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/1da03323/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/acc18b99/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - of sorts - penetrating oil test results
I wonder if anyone else has tried using biodiesel as a penetrating oil. I have had exceptional luck freeing up rusted/seized stuff by soaking in it. I have a couple of adjustable reamers that I used a long time ago to ream king pin bushings on a Volvo 544. They were seized up hard. After a soak in B99 they worked like new. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - of sorts - penetrating oil test results *FWIW - captured from another list, I make no claim for it's authenticity:* Don't forget the April 2007 Machinist's Workshop magazine comparison test. They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a scientifically rusted environment. Penetrating oil . Average load None .. 516 pounds WD-40 238 pounds PB Blaster .. 214 pounds Liquid Wrench 127 pounds Kano Kroil ... 106 pounds ATF-Acetone mix...53 pounds The ATF-Acetone mix was a home brew mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the home brew was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that Liquid Wrench is about as good as Kroil for about 20% of the price. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/99 843543/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a track arm?
Those bushings wear out too where the arm attaches to the LCA. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You dont remove that part, you remove it where it bolts to the body, and unscrew out the adjustment on the arm. When you put it back together, you will have to get an alignment done. winmutt wrote: Yes but the bushing in there sits under the spring perch? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More A330
From: NTSB Press Releases ntsbpressrelea...@ntsb.gov Reply-To: NTSB AVIATION LIST aviat...@listserv.ntsb.gov Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:52:44 -0400 To: aviat...@listserv.ntsb.gov Subject: NTSB INVESTIGATING TWO RECENT INCIDENTS INVOLVING POSSIBLE A-330 SPEED AND ALTITUDE INDICATION ANOMALIES NTSB ADVISORY National Transportation Safety Board Washington, DC 20594 June 25, 2009 NTSB INVESTIGATING TWO RECENT INCIDENTS INVOLVING POSSIBLE A-330 SPEED AND ALTITUDE INDICATION ANOMALIES The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating two recent incidents in which airspeed and altitude indications in the cockpits of Airbus A-330 aircraft may have malfunctioned. The first incident occurred May 21, 2009, when TAM Airlines flight 8091 (Brazilian registration PT-MVB) flying from Miami, Florida to Sao Paulo, Brazil, experienced a loss of primary speed and altitude information while in cruise flight. Initial reports indicate that the flight crew noted an abrupt drop in indicated outside air temperature, followed by the loss of the Air Data Reference System and disconnections of the autopilot and autothrust, along with the loss of speed and altitude information. The flight crew used backup instruments and primary data was restored in about 5 minutes. The flight landed at Sao Paulo with no further incident and there were no injuries and damage. The Safety Board has become aware of another possibly similar incident that occurred on June 23 on a Northwest Airlines A-330 (registration unknown) flying between Hong Kong and Tokyo. The aircraft landed safely in Tokyo; no injuries or damage was reported. Data recorder information, Aircraft Condition Monitoring System messages, crew statements and weather information are being collected by NTSB investigators. Further information on both incidents will be released when it becomes available. ### NTSB Public Affairs ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/679f21f6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
Thanks, I didn't think about hinging forward, of course if the rear seat is not accessible then that may lessen the mischief that the boy child can get into but not much, I think Todd -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 14:02 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility WILTON wrote: Don't the front seat backs have to hinge forward for back seat entry/exit? Indeed, if you want access to the back seat. It might be possible to put the soft parts from another 123 seat on the coupe front seat framework. Hopefully a voice of experience can chime in here. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
Thanks, How long have you had this repair and is any of your seat cover cracked or torn? Todd -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 14:48 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility If the spring base is intact, the effort to repad the seat is not all that bad. I used a piece of scrap carpet first on top of the spring base tied on with nylong pull ties. Then added the fibrefill type padding on top of that and slipped the cover back on. A major improvement at very little expense and minimal effort. I did not put the pool noodle into the spring base as I did not think the seat needed to be firmer. I think now that the seat has been used for a bit that I should pull the cover again and add a bit more fo the padding but it is not bad as it is. Now I have issues with the seat back as the horsehair pad is deteriorating. Don't know if anyone has come up with a do it yourself repair for the backs or if the general concensus is that one just orders new horsehair pads for the seat backs. Randy Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
Hi Gary, Will the ones you suggested do video from a DSL line (broadband)? Also, can I plug a Dell keyboard, mouse, and monitor into the laptops? Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123/126 steerinb box rebuild?
Rolf - I think it depends on why you want to rebuild the steering gear. If it is just leaking then you can replace most of the soft parts with pretty good results, but if you have excessive play, then it might be pretty tough to do a proper rebuild and get the clearances correct without having all the special tools to hold the various assemblies while you are establishing the necessary running torques. Take a look at the section in the manual (46-220) about rebuilding the steering gearbox and I think that you will see what I mean. Most folks just go down to the bone yard and buy a good used box for about $100. If you go to a do it yourself yard you may get one even cheaper and then you can test the play as well before pulling the box. Barry -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of winmutt Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123/126 steerinb box rebuild? Also anyone rebuilt a steering box before? Suggestions? Recommendations? Hints? I have seen the DIY floating around. Doesn't look horribly difficult if you are careful. I have 2 in the cars that need to be rebuild and 1 123 and 1 126 that I planned on selling afterwards. For the price they charge for rebuilts they should bring a decent penny for a junkyard find and a $20 kit. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
by do video, what you mean exactly? as in how well will streaming video work or as a video editing tool and sending stuff around the internet? for the former, i don't know, but my guess is that it would work to some degree that could be adequate and i'd say yes to the latter. i'm not sure what kind of connects an ibook has. you can look all the up online or wait for penoff to read this as he seems to know all this stuff off the top of his head On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi Gary, Will the ones you suggested do video from a DSL line (broadband)? Also, can I plug a Dell keyboard, mouse, and monitor into the laptops? Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody need new toys
http://www.murphyauctions.net/jackcarrolls.html Ford dealer is going on the block. One dozen two post lifts and lots of toys that will go for pennies. I am going to see what the rolling tool chests fetch and bring one home. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody need new toys
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:46:41 -0700 Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://www.murphyauctions.net/jackcarrolls.html Ford dealer is going on the block. One dozen two post lifts and lots of toys that will go for pennies. I am going to see what the rolling tool chests fetch and bring one home. The only problem is that they are in Seattle, Washington, and not Los Alamos, New Mexico. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
Smith, Todd wrote: Thanks, I didn't think about hinging forward, of course if the rear seat is not accessible then that may lessen the mischief that the boy child can get into but not much, I think 16 year old girls are limber. They can climb over seat backs. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody need new toys
http://www.murphyauctions.net/jackcarrolls.html There's half a dozen things there that I'd love to have. But probably not going to... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123/126 steerinb box rebuild?
Most folks just go down to the bone yard and buy a good used box for about $100. If you go to a do it yourself yard you may get one even cheaper and then you can test the play as well before pulling the box. Mine was $22 at the U-Pull. (But they took another $13 for the Pittman arm that I wasn't willing or prepared to take off of it.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Seat Compatibility
assuming that the rear seat is special to the coupe? Will any 300D front seats work? All seats are special to the coupe. I've had fairly good luck repairing seats, and Rusty has brand-new seat covers that will make it look new. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What's faster, a TDI or a 6.2 Chevy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-M9k5UrD54 Or how about the General Lee vs the Hutchmobile? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiAE0VzTQTM And Larry can appreciate this, the £1500 Porsche Challenge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jPaYnaKVDk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
I just meant streaming video that would work without a lot of pauses. Both the PC laptop with 1.5 gigs and the desktop with 2.4 gigs do streaming video well with very few interruptions. Don't really have to have streaming video on this machine since this first cheap Apple computer is just to see if I can learn how to operate an Apple and get used to it. If it works out I'll go ahead and buy a later model Apple with an Intel chip that will handle PC stuff too. Found the connections on the net which look pretty much like PC connections, but not sure if the computers require an Apple keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. When I repaired some back in the early '90s for some docs, I remember that they did have to have their own mice, parts, etc. I'll wait for Penoff as you suggest just to be sure. The guy who sells them might also have used kbs, mice, and monitors if they're required. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com by do video, what you mean exactly? as in how well will streaming video work or as a video editing tool and sending stuff around the internet? for the former, i don't know, but my guess is that it would work to some degree that could be adequate and i'd say yes to the latter. i'm not sure what kind of connects an ibook has. you can look all the up online or wait for penoff to read this as he seems to know all this stuff off the top of his head On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi Gary, Will the ones you suggested do video from a DSL line (broadband)? Also, can I plug a Dell keyboard, mouse, and monitor into the laptops? Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
teh connections are usb, so you need an adapter if you want to use ps2 keyboard and/or mouse. any usb mouse and keyboard works i think it was find for streaming video. i just don't remember for sure though. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I just meant streaming video that would work without a lot of pauses. Both the PC laptop with 1.5 gigs and the desktop with 2.4 gigs do streaming video well with very few interruptions. Don't really have to have streaming video on this machine since this first cheap Apple computer is just to see if I can learn how to operate an Apple and get used to it. If it works out I'll go ahead and buy a later model Apple with an Intel chip that will handle PC stuff too. Found the connections on the net which look pretty much like PC connections, but not sure if the computers require an Apple keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. When I repaired some back in the early '90s for some docs, I remember that they did have to have their own mice, parts, etc. I'll wait for Penoff as you suggest just to be sure. The guy who sells them might also have used kbs, mice, and monitors if they're required. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com by do video, what you mean exactly? as in how well will streaming video work or as a video editing tool and sending stuff around the internet? for the former, i don't know, but my guess is that it would work to some degree that could be adequate and i'd say yes to the latter. i'm not sure what kind of connects an ibook has. you can look all the up online or wait for penoff to read this as he seems to know all this stuff off the top of his head On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi Gary, Will the ones you suggested do video from a DSL line (broadband)? Also, can I plug a Dell keyboard, mouse, and monitor into the laptops? Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery
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CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Look for Joe Knight
He lives in the East Bay (SFO). Dan --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: [MBZ] OT: Look for Joe Knight To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 12:30 AM Joe - if you are out there, send me an email. I'm going to be in San Diego for a bit and I've lost your email and don't remember for sure which part of CA you live in. Anyone else have Joe's email? Anyone else in San Diego area? Drop me an email - maybe we can get together. Take care, Max '87 300TD 312k miles -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/efad5ac6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/d09ca859/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
archer wrote: I just meant streaming video that would work without a lot of pauses. Both the PC laptop with 1.5 gigs and the desktop with 2.4 gigs do streaming video well with very few interruptions. Ever since CPUs were measured in Ghz instead of Mhz, glitches in video streaming are usually from throughput on the source when watched from the internet. My 400 Mhz Cyrex CPU and slow motherboard integrated video had some minor problems with watching video, the 2.66Ghz Intel Celeron (crippled Pentium 4) that replaced it could simultaneously record and play (timeshift a TV show) at up to DVD Long Play resolution, but if I recorded at full standard DVD rates I had to disable timeshift. (I like to start watching a one hour TV show 10-20 minutes after it begins, and skip commercials as I watch. That way I finish watching about time the broadcast is finished.) my new 2.5Ghz AMD dual core can do any play/record functions I might want, but encoding and burning a DVD in Vista DVD Maker takes a couple of hours. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
--- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/d09ca859/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/7e42c818/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
connections, but not sure if the computers require an Apple keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. When I repaired some back in the early '90s for some docs, I remember that they did have to have their own mice, parts, etc. I'll wait for Penoff as you suggest just to be sure. The guy who sells them might also have used kbs, mice, and monitors if they're required. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com by do video, what you mean exactly? as in how well will streaming video work or as a video editing tool and sending stuff around the internet? for the former, i don't know, but my guess is that it would work to some degree that could be adequate and i'd say yes to the latter. i'm not sure what kind of connects an ibook has. you can look all the up online or wait for penoff to read this as he seems to know all this stuff off the top of his head On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi Gary, Will the ones you suggested do video from a DSL line (broadband)? Also, can I plug a Dell keyboard, mouse, and monitor into the laptops? Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
The iBooks should work with an external mouse and keyboard, if they are USB. If they are older ones with the little round connectors then no. An external monitor will need a little pigtail to connect the monitor's cable to the mini-DV port on the iBook. Apple store sells them, be sure you get the one for your model. I have a G4 PowerBook 1Ghz and 768M RAM it does streaming video, e.g. YouTube just fine with our cable internet service; can't speak to how it would work on DSL i'd guess it might have a little more chance of being choppy but that really just means you're trying to suck more through of the pipe than it can deliver. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
The iBooks should work with an external mouse and keyboard, if they are USB. If they are older ones with the little round connectors then no. People forget that the i-Everything was post-ADB, post-SCSI, and after firewire came along. If the CPU's faster than about 300 MHz, in other words. Our 400 MHz pismo has a little trouble with youtube, but will play a DVD just fine, much bigger and with a faster frame rate. So it's a bit on the edge. Anything faster will probably be just fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody need new toys
Make the online bid and arrange for shipping when you win clay On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:46:41 -0700 Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://www.murphyauctions.net/jackcarrolls.html Ford dealer is going on the block. One dozen two post lifts and lots of toys that will go for pennies. I am going to see what the rolling tool chests fetch and bring one home. The only problem is that they are in Seattle, Washington, and not Los Alamos, New Mexico. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
Standard USB for KB and Mouse. Get the 1.33 G4 iBook and it has bluetooth, wireless KB and Mouse then. Will also synch with your phone if need be. Can swap wallpapers, music, ringtones that way or synch contacts and appointments clay On Jun 26, 2009, at 5:49 PM, archer wrote: I just meant streaming video that would work without a lot of pauses. Both the PC laptop with 1.5 gigs and the desktop with 2.4 gigs do streaming video well with very few interruptions. Don't really have to have streaming video on this machine since this first cheap Apple computer is just to see if I can learn how to operate an Apple and get used to it. If it works out I'll go ahead and buy a later model Apple with an Intel chip that will handle PC stuff too. Found the connections on the net which look pretty much like PC connections, but not sure if the computers require an Apple keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. When I repaired some back in the early '90s for some docs, I remember that they did have to have their own mice, parts, etc. I'll wait for Penoff as you suggest just to be sure. The guy who sells them might also have used kbs, mice, and monitors if they're required. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com by do video, what you mean exactly? as in how well will streaming video work or as a video editing tool and sending stuff around the internet? for the former, i don't know, but my guess is that it would work to some degree that could be adequate and i'd say yes to the latter. i'm not sure what kind of connects an ibook has. you can look all the up online or wait for penoff to read this as he seems to know all this stuff off the top of his head On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi Gary, Will the ones you suggested do video from a DSL line (broadband)? Also, can I plug a Dell keyboard, mouse, and monitor into the laptops? Thanks, Gerry --- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com the quicksilver for $100 if you never need portability. if you ever need portability, one of those g4 ibooks. i was using a g4 that was a generation previous to the quicksilver until i finished upgrading everything to core2duo about a month ago. i was using pismos and a Pentium 4 for laptops until i got my core2 dell a year ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer wrote: Daughters neighbor has a recycle business. He has the following Apples for sale and I'm going to buy one and see if its possible to shake the PC habit. Will want to use the laptops as a desktop with a keyboard, a new Dell monitor, a mouse, and a printer plugged into it if that's possible. ISP is DSL. All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi - $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED --- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/e3bf951e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
Re: [MBZ] OT: Which Apple should I buy?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: All advice on which one an Apple newby should buy will be greatly appreciated. Gerry Gerry, I'm going to wade into this discussion and take the Devil's Advocate position. In the spirit of full disclosure, I do own Apple stock, and generally prefer Mac OS X over all other operating systems. That being said: == $235 A43 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi -- $125 A172 APPLE iBOOK G4 A1055 1.33GHz 512MB 60GB DVD WiFi -- The G4 iBook was a very nice machine, and these two examples will allow you to run Leopard, the last PowerPC version of the Mac OS. If you are going to buy one of these machines just to learn the OS, then one of these would be my recommendation. -- $150 A26 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $175 A139 APPLE iBOOK G3 A1007 900MHz 256MB 40GB DVD WiFi -- $100 A65 APPLE iBook A1005 G3 700MHz 256MB 20GB CD LAPTOP MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE AIRPORT CARD INSTALLED -- $100 A34 APPLE iBOOK 600MHz 640MB 40GB DVD CD-RW WiFi M6497 30 DAY DOA WARRANTY - MAC OS 10.4 TIGER iLIFE INSTALLED -- Do not, under any circumstances, buy a G3 anything. -- $100 (DESKTOP) SM1 APPLE QUICKSILVER POWER MAC G4 800MHZ 768MB CD-RW -- This machine will not officially run Leopard. You will have to learn how to force Leopard onto this system, and as such may become frustrated. With that being said, personally, I wouldn't offer any of these machines to a first time Apple buyer for several reasons without knowing specifically what you want to use a Mac to do. So I will make some assumptions and attempt to talk you forward based on that. First, the PowerPC (PPC) architecture is well and truly dead. Snow Leopard, Mac OS X 10.6, is Intel only and has absolutely no PPC code left in the system. Most games already are using a series of code that allows Windows games to be quickly ported to the *Intel* version of the Mac OS by using some of the WINE code to compile into the code to make the Windows API specific parts of the game think they are running on a Windows machine. This means that there is already software that simply will not run on any version of the PPC Mac OS, and that will only get worse as new software is written specifically for Snow Leopard. Second, out of all of the choices offered above the best ones are the G4 iBooks. These iBooks were introduced in 2004, and as such are already 5 years old technologically. The video processing (which is important for the video you mention) is only 32 MB in an ATI 9200 Radeon chip on the high end. Can you perform video functions with this chipset? Yes. Will it be fluid? Depends on what you are watching. YouTube regular video? Probably ok. YouTube HD video? Really pushing it. Hulu, CBS, ABC, etc? Depends on bit rate and resolution. Basically, bandwidth is important to get the data to you, however, it's still up to the video processor to decode and display that information. Third, while I am confident you will love the Mac OS if given an open and honest chance. There is always that learning curve for new ideology. Meaning, if you have Windows so ingrained that you just can't get your mind to wrap around how the Mac OS does things, you'll always feel like it's mocking you. Making you angry. With a PPC Mac, you are stuck with the Mac OS, or PPC Linux/BSD. Reference the First point and you increase the probability that this machine will sit unused. Fourth, while $235 will not buy you even a Core Solo (Intel) Mac Mini, when you can find them $399 will. In fact Power Max ( http://www.powermax.com/parts/show/c-u66060) has one in stock right now. 1.5 Ghz Core Solo, 512 MB RAM, 60 GB hard drive and 64 MB Video RAM with the Intel GMA950 integrated graphics system. Also not a powerhouse video card, but better at video decoding than the ATI. $599 will get you a Core Duo iMac with integrated 17 LCD monitor. $595 will also get you a 1st Generation Core Duo MacBook as well, if a laptop is truly important to you. What does your $164 (for the Core Solo Mini) in difference get you? Peace of Mind Insurance. The Intel Macs can run Windows. In fact several PC magazines say the best Windows PC to buy is a Mac. So if the Third point comes to pass that you just have to have Windows, you can remove the Mac OS and install Windows and chalk it up as a bad exercise. It also buys you the chance to use Snow Leopard (though in the case of the Core Solo, not at full strength. Snow really loves multiple core/multiple processors) which will be out in Sept, and will keep your Mac current for the next generation, thereby also allowing you to have less