Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
I think they use pictures taken by the lunar orbiter in the mid 60's, so it may not have any of the stuff left behind by the Apollo missions, which according to some did not actually occur, or should I say they went into Earth orbit for a few days and then came down again. Probably just as easy to go to the moon, jump around and come home, than try and keep a big secret, involving thousands of people. Like the say, the hard thing about space travel is lift off and re-entry, the stuff in between is relatively easy. Hendrik LarryT wrote: If anyone's interested, Google Moon, has a map of the moon to use just like the one (sorta) we use to look at our neighbrhoods. Haven't spotted the Moon Mobile - the little RV - but I'm still looking. Emjoy - http://www.google.com/moon/ ;-) LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
Illogical. --R Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I think you might already be past the point of no return, so you might as well get some enjoyment out of whatever you have left. My logic sez to retain what little I have - that might be fun. Rationale & logic are good exercise - try it sometime - you too might enjoy it. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/9e5ab5f7/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Watch this
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:05:39 EDT relng...@aol.com wrote: > http://www.flixxy.com/low-altitude-aerobatics-hidef.htm That's some mighty impressive flying, even right down the Danube in front of the Hungarian parliment in Budapest. The risk factor is rather high. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Craig McCluskey wrote: Andrew was bragging about Adsit having a rebuilt head at a low price; Dan just commented on the price and the source. Oooh, I thought Poos was commenting on Andy's request that Mike deliver and install the head off his new parts motor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
--R wrote: > I think you might already be past the point of no return, so you might as > well get some enjoyment out of whatever you have left. My logic sez to retain what little I have - that might be fun. Rationale & logic are good exercise - try it sometime - you too might enjoy it. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] clunking or hard upshifts
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:00:22 -0400 glenn brown wrote: > > I've been meaning to ask you folks about a clunking or hard upshifts > which have started recently in my '84 300D. This only seems to happen > under mundane acceleration and not at advanced revs and does not occur > on down shifts. I know there has been talk previously about the flex > disc, but can't recall the symptoms. Any suggestions? TIA. Been messing around in the engine compartment? Knock off any vacuum lines? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:20:03 -0400 andrew strasfogel wrote: > Ditto. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin > wrote: > > > huh? I don't know what you guys missed, but it was very plain to me. Andrew was bragging about Adsit having a rebuilt head at a low price; Dan just commented on the price and the source. > > LWB250 wrote: > > > >> Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase "You get what you pay for" > >> applies here. > >> > >> 'nuf said publicly. > >> > >> Dan I other words, shall I spell it out?, run away from Adsit as fast as your hairy little legs will carry you. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
I think you might already be past the point of no return, so you might as well get some enjoyment out of whatever you have left. --R Mountain Man wrote: --R- wrote: You need to take up drinking. that destroys brain cells logic and thinking enhances what brain cells I might have mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/44415ad6/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] inline fuel filter motherlode
Item # 200365182287 Chris 1985 300SD 244K miles --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Mountain Man wrote: > From: Mountain Man > Subject: Re: [MBZ] inline fuel filter motherlode > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 8:04 PM > Chris wrote: > > Anyway, I have them on ebay for $5.00 > > ebay auction link? > please. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
--R- wrote: > You need to take up drinking. that destroys brain cells logic and thinking enhances what brain cells I might have mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
You need to take up drinking. --R Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: They did not lie, were incapable of lying. Yeah, right. And Obama is more conservative than JFK - as long as we are talking Di / Elvis. The compleat principle of konspiracy is that you won't see it. If it were something that could be seen, it, by definition is not a conspiracy. Hence, all that we see is potentially conspiracy. Hey - I reported what I have seen from freaks. I never said I believed it, but I haven't seen any rational response against the konspiracy idea - I have seen more idiocy in response. So, do as the gov't sez, believe all they say. That is not intelligent in the least. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/54abc87f/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
Hey y'all! Ho mah beer and watchiss! --R WILTON wrote: Many people obviously will go to any length to show how crazy as Hell they are. Surely, it can't be ALL ignorance, can it? Wilton - Original Message - From: "LWB250" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] what? There were two incidents with high pressure ammonia transmission lines (pipelines) when I was living in Tampa. There was a line about 1/4 mile south of my house. It was buried, but they had manholes where they could access control valves and monitoring equipment. Some meth head who thought they could tap one of the valves and get some ammonia for his lab got hosed in one of the vaults. He lived, but probably wished he hadn't. He was severely burned and had major lung damage. Add to this his incarceration that was for a number of years for several charges and his life was pretty much in the tank. The second incident involved an idiot who rappelled off the side of a bridge over the Alafia River, where another ammonia transmission line was suspended under the bridge. He was successful in breaching the line with a battery powered drill, amazingly enough. The resulting plume of ammonia that blew out of the hole he drilled knocked him into the river, where he was picked up by the local gendarmes. The amount of ammonia that was released into the air caused a massive evacuation of the area. Another couple of good reasons why I am glad I don't live in Florida any more Dan --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Mitch Haley wrote: From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] what? To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 7:28 PM Peter T. Arnold wrote: > Too late, any cloud that would effect a cars engine would have kilt you a long time ago. You folks just don't comprehend how nasty this stuff it. Minor leak? Call out the fire department, they wear air packs and DELUGE it with water. That's why I said to throw the car in reverse as soon as you smell it, before it kills your engine or you. Seems like your only hope, if indeed the cloud ahead is concentrated enough to deprive your car of oxygen. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Ditto. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > huh? > > LWB250 wrote: > >> Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase "You get what you pay for" applies >> here. >> >> 'nuf said publicly. >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 > 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/b75eca18/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD!
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM, John Freer wrote: > In CA, DMV says you can sell as many cars as you want as long as you > aren't making a profit which would then require a license. That's an > easy qualifier for me. > > John With a loophole like that, there are hundreds of *actual* dealerships who meet that criteria. EdB -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/fa18511b/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w126: gen1 & gen2 - what's the difference?
'91 can also "hide" a malfunctioning amplifier in the trunk and cause three weeks of frustration trying to find culprit draining battery. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] w126: gen1 & gen2 - what's the difference? 81-85 was the old style sealed beam lights, in 86 they went to the updated climate control, body moulding, and the newer style lights with wipers along with other things. 88 got the updated sound system with the speakers in the doors, 89-91 had the updated interior, dual air bags etc. 91 also has the radio with the 2 piece setup that could hook a cd changer up to. Christopher McCann wrote: What is the difference between gen1 and gen2 on the 126 chassis? When did gen2 start? Specifically, what are the differences in headlights? Thanks, Chris 1985 300SD 244K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.22/2253 - Release Date: 07/21/09 18:02:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/276078cf/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Watch this
http://www.flixxy.com/low-altitude-aerobatics-hidef.htm ** What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood0009) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/588e656e/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD!
That one has has always been especially easy for me!! Wilton - Original Message - From: "John Freer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD! In CA, DMV says you can sell as many cars as you want as long as you aren't making a profit which would then require a license. That's an easy qualifier for me. John On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM, WILTON wrote: Two? Just 2? They're tough; didn't know any state was that tough on it; they musta been needing some (more) money. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD! Wilton wrote: "I think in my state (NC), anybody buying/selling above a certain number of vehicles a year (I don't know the number - don't care - just trying to get in a "dig."), must have a dealer license.;<)" That happened to me in Missouri. The Department of Revenue sent me a letter saying I could not register or sell another car because I did not have a Dealer's license. My wife sold two cars that year. I think I am okay. This is my first car sold this year (I sold the Volvo in Nov. of last year). As long as I keep it to every six months, I'll never have more than 2 sales in a year. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/b569a4be/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] clunking or hard upshifts
I've been meaning to ask you folks about a clunking or hard upshifts which have started recently in my '84 300D. This only seems to happen under mundane acceleration and not at advanced revs and does not occur on down shifts. I know there has been talk previously about the flex disc, but can't recall the symptoms. Any suggestions? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/8d294820/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w126: gen1 & gen2 - what's the difference?
81-85 was the old style sealed beam lights, in 86 they went to the updated climate control, body moulding, and the newer style lights with wipers along with other things. 88 got the updated sound system with the speakers in the doors, 89-91 had the updated interior, dual air bags etc. 91 also has the radio with the 2 piece setup that could hook a cd changer up to. Christopher McCann wrote: What is the difference between gen1 and gen2 on the 126 chassis? When did gen2 start? Specifically, what are the differences in headlights? Thanks, Chris 1985 300SD 244K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.22/2253 - Release Date: 07/21/09 18:02:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/276078cf/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
huh? LWB250 wrote: Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase "You get what you pay for" applies here. 'nuf said publicly. Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD!
In CA, DMV says you can sell as many cars as you want as long as you aren't making a profit which would then require a license. That's an easy qualifier for me. John On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM, WILTON wrote: > Two? Just 2? They're tough; didn't know any state was that tough on it; > they musta been needing some (more) money. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD! > > >> Wilton wrote: "I think in my state (NC), anybody buying/selling above a >> certain number of >> vehicles a year (I don't know the number - don't care - just trying to get >> in a "dig."), must have a dealer license.;<)" >> >> That happened to me in Missouri. The Department of Revenue sent me a >> letter saying I could not register or sell another car because I did not >> have a Dealer's license. My wife sold two cars that year. >> >> I think I am okay. This is my first car sold this year (I sold the Volvo >> in Nov. of last year). As long as I keep it to every six months, I'll >> never have more than 2 sales in a year. >> >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/b569a4be/attachment.html> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] inline fuel filter motherlode
Chris wrote: > Anyway, I have them on ebay for $5.00 ebay auction link? please. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
--R wrote: > They did not lie, were incapable of lying. Yeah, right. And Obama is more conservative than JFK - as long as we are talking Di / Elvis. The compleat principle of konspiracy is that you won't see it. If it were something that could be seen, it, by definition is not a conspiracy. Hence, all that we see is potentially conspiracy. Hey - I reported what I have seen from freaks. I never said I believed it, but I haven't seen any rational response against the konspiracy idea - I have seen more idiocy in response. So, do as the gov't sez, believe all they say. That is not intelligent in the least. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I guess Marshalls mailbox finally filled up.
List: Mercedes Member: mboo...@pitt.edu Action: Subscription disabled. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
Many people obviously will go to any length to show how crazy as Hell they are. Surely, it can't be ALL ignorance, can it? Wilton - Original Message - From: "LWB250" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] what? There were two incidents with high pressure ammonia transmission lines (pipelines) when I was living in Tampa. There was a line about 1/4 mile south of my house. It was buried, but they had manholes where they could access control valves and monitoring equipment. Some meth head who thought they could tap one of the valves and get some ammonia for his lab got hosed in one of the vaults. He lived, but probably wished he hadn't. He was severely burned and had major lung damage. Add to this his incarceration that was for a number of years for several charges and his life was pretty much in the tank. The second incident involved an idiot who rappelled off the side of a bridge over the Alafia River, where another ammonia transmission line was suspended under the bridge. He was successful in breaching the line with a battery powered drill, amazingly enough. The resulting plume of ammonia that blew out of the hole he drilled knocked him into the river, where he was picked up by the local gendarmes. The amount of ammonia that was released into the air caused a massive evacuation of the area. Another couple of good reasons why I am glad I don't live in Florida any more Dan --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Mitch Haley wrote: From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] what? To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 7:28 PM Peter T. Arnold wrote: > Too late, any cloud that would effect a cars engine would have kilt you a long time ago. You folks just don't comprehend how nasty this stuff it. Minor leak? Call out the fire department, they wear air packs and DELUGE it with water. That's why I said to throw the car in reverse as soon as you smell it, before it kills your engine or you. Seems like your only hope, if indeed the cloud ahead is concentrated enough to deprive your car of oxygen. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
> Michael Esh wrote: > The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the > transfer of engine and such from the the 82. Is there a site > that has information on the rear suspension of the wagons that > would help us trouble shoot? Ask right here! A few of us are experienced - if not actually experts. --Philip, slowly becoming a W123 wagon master mechanic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] w126: gen1 & gen2 - what's the difference?
What is the difference between gen1 and gen2 on the 126 chassis? When did gen2 start? Specifically, what are the differences in headlights? Thanks, Chris 1985 300SD 244K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
There were two incidents with high pressure ammonia transmission lines (pipelines) when I was living in Tampa. There was a line about 1/4 mile south of my house. It was buried, but they had manholes where they could access control valves and monitoring equipment. Some meth head who thought they could tap one of the valves and get some ammonia for his lab got hosed in one of the vaults. He lived, but probably wished he hadn't. He was severely burned and had major lung damage. Add to this his incarceration that was for a number of years for several charges and his life was pretty much in the tank. The second incident involved an idiot who rappelled off the side of a bridge over the Alafia River, where another ammonia transmission line was suspended under the bridge. He was successful in breaching the line with a battery powered drill, amazingly enough. The resulting plume of ammonia that blew out of the hole he drilled knocked him into the river, where he was picked up by the local gendarmes. The amount of ammonia that was released into the air caused a massive evacuation of the area. Another couple of good reasons why I am glad I don't live in Florida any more Dan --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Mitch Haley wrote: > From: Mitch Haley > Subject: Re: [MBZ] what? > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 7:28 PM > Peter T. Arnold wrote: > > Too late, any cloud that would effect a cars engine > would have kilt you a long time ago. You folks just > don't comprehend how nasty this stuff it. Minor > leak? Call out the fire department, they wear air > packs and DELUGE it with water. > > > That's why I said to throw the car in reverse as soon as > you smell it, before it kills your engine or you. Seems like > your only hope, if indeed the cloud ahead is concentrated > enough to deprive your car of oxygen. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD!
Two? Just 2? They're tough; didn't know any state was that tough on it; they musta been needing some (more) money. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD! Wilton wrote: "I think in my state (NC), anybody buying/selling above a certain number of vehicles a year (I don't know the number - don't care - just trying to get in a "dig."), must have a dealer license.;<)" That happened to me in Missouri. The Department of Revenue sent me a letter saying I could not register or sell another car because I did not have a Dealer's license. My wife sold two cars that year. I think I am okay. This is my first car sold this year (I sold the Volvo in Nov. of last year). As long as I keep it to every six months, I'll never have more than 2 sales in a year. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/b569a4be/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD!
Wilton wrote: "I think in my state (NC), anybody buying/selling above a certain number of vehicles a year (I don't know the number - don't care - just trying to get in a "dig."), must have a dealer license.;<)" That happened to me in Missouri. The Department of Revenue sent me a letter saying I could not register or sell another car because I did not have a Dealer's license. My wife sold two cars that year. I think I am okay. This is my first car sold this year (I sold the Volvo in Nov. of last year). As long as I keep it to every six months, I'll never have more than 2 sales in a year. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/b569a4be/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
Peter T. Arnold wrote: Too late, any cloud that would effect a cars engine would have kilt you a long time ago. You folks just don't comprehend how nasty this stuff it. Minor leak? Call out the fire department, they wear air packs and DELUGE it with water. That's why I said to throw the car in reverse as soon as you smell it, before it kills your engine or you. Seems like your only hope, if indeed the cloud ahead is concentrated enough to deprive your car of oxygen. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
'Won't help much if the car's dead. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] what? Fmiser wrote: Unless you drive into a large "cloud" of it and the car dies. So what's the moral to that story? If your nose starts burning with the stench of ammonia, hold your breath and slam the car into reverse? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Redghost wrote: > What does one look like? Tuesday is surplus store day, but the local PC > recycle shops are no doubt filled to the gills with them > > clay http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/9244 EdB -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/309f0c3d/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
Too late, any cloud that would effect a cars engine would have kilt you a long time ago. You folks just don't comprehend how nasty this stuff it. Minor leak? Call out the fire department, they wear air packs and DELUGE it with water. -- Pete Arnold 32° "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway Mitch Haley wrote: Fmiser wrote: Unless you drive into a large "cloud" of it and the car dies. So what's the moral to that story? If your nose starts burning with the stench of ammonia, hold your breath and slam the car into reverse? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase "You get what you pay for" applies here. 'nuf said publicly. Dan --- On Tue, 7/21/09, andrew strasfogel wrote: > From: andrew strasfogel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:12 AM > Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve > job for only $500, plus the core > charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to > make a profit. > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel > wrote: > > > What's the package price for you to fly it in and > install it? > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh > wrote: > > > >> We will pulling the engine in few weeks and > hopefully the head will be > >> intact. What is the value of such a > head? i am sure it can be discounted > >> for a fellow member. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> > >> On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > >> > >> Michael Esh wrote: > >>> > >>>> We ended up towing in on the dolly with > rear wheels on the ground for > >>>> about 150 miles. Did we ruin > transmission as well? > >>>> > >>> > >>> Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but > I'm sure you did it no > >>> favors. > >>> If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate > the drive shaft for a trip > >>> that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head > when you blew the engine, did > >>> you? > >>> > >>> Mitch. > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to: > >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
What does one look like? Tuesday is surplus store day, but the local PC recycle shops are no doubt filled to the gills with them clay On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:39 PM, tyler wrote: Old Model Ms have a removable cable. I'm pretty sure all one needs to do to switch from AT to PS/2 is to plug in the cable with a PS/2 connector on one end. I believe I am typing this e-mail right now on one that was originally an AT keyboard when I found it in a trash can, and has since been "upgraded" to PS/2. Tyler This is correct, and in fact, if one were industrious enough they could wire the adapter in line via the cable itself and not need a PS/2 to USB dongle, though the cable might come out looking a little chewed up. If I could get ahold of a true Model M (or two) I would hook it up. I used to have the ThinkPad M13, that was all black and had a mouse stick in the center. They came with the original ThinkPad docking stations. Just as well built as the M, and absolutely no need for a mouse. Unfortunately mine was destroyed in a move (even an M can succumb to several hundred pounds dropped on top of it in the bottom of a box) and they are rare the last one I found was close to $200. A company called Unicomp has bought the old M molds and offers "new" M's that aren't quite the same quality as the originals, but I've heard are pretty close. But that's probably like saying a Chinese built Mercedes (built under control with Mercedes tool and die) is the same as a German built Mercedes. There M13's are $99. *sighs* I miss that keyboard hey, on a related note. Clay, oh Master of College Auctions, you haven't seen any M13's around Seattle have you? EdB -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/daa04bea/attachment.html > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Ed Booher wrote: > If I could get ahold of a true Model M (or two) I would hook it up. I used > to have the ThinkPad M13, that was all black and had a mouse stick in the > center. They came with the original ThinkPad docking stations. Just as well > built as the M, and absolutely no need for a mouse. Unfortunately mine was > destroyed in a move (even an M can succumb to several hundred pounds dropped > on top of it in the bottom of a box) and they are rare the last one I > found was close to $200. > Ah look! Here's one: http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Model-M-13-Trackpoint-II-Clicky-Keyboard-NIB_W0QQitemZ270429336226QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item3ef6d832a2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1240|293%3A1|294%3A50 Current Bid - $187.50 *sigh* EdB -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/5c07fb44/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:39 PM, tyler wrote: > Old Model Ms have a removable cable. I'm pretty sure all one needs to do to > switch from AT to PS/2 is to plug in the cable with a PS/2 connector on one > end. > > I believe I am typing this e-mail right now on one that was originally an > AT keyboard when I found it in a trash can, and has since been "upgraded" to > PS/2. > > Tyler > This is correct, and in fact, if one were industrious enough they could wire the adapter in line via the cable itself and not need a PS/2 to USB dongle, though the cable might come out looking a little chewed up. If I could get ahold of a true Model M (or two) I would hook it up. I used to have the ThinkPad M13, that was all black and had a mouse stick in the center. They came with the original ThinkPad docking stations. Just as well built as the M, and absolutely no need for a mouse. Unfortunately mine was destroyed in a move (even an M can succumb to several hundred pounds dropped on top of it in the bottom of a box) and they are rare the last one I found was close to $200. A company called Unicomp has bought the old M molds and offers "new" M's that aren't quite the same quality as the originals, but I've heard are pretty close. But that's probably like saying a Chinese built Mercedes (built under control with Mercedes tool and die) is the same as a German built Mercedes. There M13's are $99. *sighs* I miss that keyboard hey, on a related note. Clay, oh Master of College Auctions, you haven't seen any M13's around Seattle have you? EdB -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/daa04bea/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
Fmiser wrote: Unless you drive into a large "cloud" of it and the car dies. So what's the moral to that story? If your nose starts burning with the stench of ammonia, hold your breath and slam the car into reverse? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]
I'm impress, Mitch. You even got the formatting to forward so the stuff is actually readable! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1278402274.html > Donald Snook wrote: > > In fact, I think a wagon like this > would be much superior to a minivan or an SUV if all you used > it for was hauling around the kids and groceries. These are > actually pretty good cars. > > If we had 4-5 kids, I would probably buy this! If you have ever fought with more than 2 car seats in a car at a time, it's easy to understand why minivans are popular. But I'd still rather not have to work on a minivan. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what?
> > > pm7...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > 1) One 'safety' aspect is that you cannot tolerate an > > > atmosphere that is about 100 time smaller that leathel. > > relng...@aol.com wrote: > > > > I can't understand #1 at all. > Mitch Haley wrote: > > I think he's saying that the maximum endurable concentration > is about 1% of the lethal concentration, so you'll be fleeing > long before it can kill you. Unless you drive into a large "cloud" of it and the car dies. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We're all gonna dieeeeeeee.....
> ned kleinhenz wrote: > We all store 10 to 50 gallons of > gasoline right in the gas tanks of the cars parked in our > garages. Hey! Speak for yourself! _I_ don't do such things - my cars are all diesel power. If there's any gasoline in those tanks I've got other issues than just _safety_. > If that worries you, > how about the thousands of gallons of di-hydrogen oxide > contained in indoor swimming pools. Lots of people die from Ooooh. Yeah - that's nasty stuff! I've heard that everyone who's ever ingested any eventually died. Doesn't bode well for those of us still alive. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 85 380SE for sale $600 Atlanta
I recently moved and finally got my previous house rented. but the downside is I lost my 3 car garage where I had the 380se waiting for the time $$ to get it back running. New house only has a 2 car garage and parking outside is not an option. Soo it's gotta go as the tennant needs the space. The good. Body interior and almost all ancillary systems in excellent condition. Approx 118,000 miles. The bad. timing chain jumped and so needs repair for timing chain and probably bent valves etc etc. Two small things that would also need fixed that I just never got around to 1) AC monovalve needs fixed 2) idle sensor thing needs looked at ( would occasionally idle fast and other times was ok. This really is too good to go to the crusher. Anyone know how much would need to be changed if I decided to turn it into a 300SD?? I'm assuming you'd need the engine, fuel/KLIMA stuff, transmission, not sure what how much a pain it would be to add the glow plug wiring/relay stuff and not sure if you'd have to change the ignition switch pictures available on request. Needs to be gone in the next week maybe two at the latest. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Pretty nice MB on CL
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1281599460.html Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/fdc69835/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD!
I think in my state (NC), anybody buying/selling above a certain number of vehicles a year (I don't know the number - don't care - just trying to get in a "dig."), must have a dealer license. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD! Well, the 1993 Cadillac is sold! I bought it from a farmer from a small town in Kansas called Beloit and sold it to a farmer in a small town called Sedgwick! Now, I will drive the Grand Marquis until I am tired of it and then the cycle starts all over again. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/44e35546/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W126 Seat Frame
I found this on the Boston CL-emailed the seller hoping it was for a W123. He said he bought it for a 1985 300SD. New in box, he wants 50.00. Thought someone might want such a deal. He doesn't have MB part number. No interest, etc. http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/1279781215.html Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/4d25328b/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
I hate where Caps Lock is on my keyboard; I keep hitting it accidentally - often; then have to backup to correct all the caps, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: tyler wrote: I use the old (mid 80s) keyboards as the quality gradually went down over time. They don't have a windows/apple key, but I simply remap the "caps lock" for that purpose, as I've never found any use for that key, except for accidentally bumping it. I've got a couple of originals, circa 1982 with the ten function keys up the side. Very heavy, and very good keyswitches. There were adapters to plug them into AT motherboards at one time. I wonder if you could stack the PC to AT adapter and the AT to PS/2 adapter to hook one up to a modern motherboard? You can indeed---I have done it. If you like having Control where the Caps Lock is on modern keyboards (next to A), that's a great way to go. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
Old Model Ms have a removable cable. I'm pretty sure all one needs to do to switch from AT to PS/2 is to plug in the cable with a PS/2 connector on one end. I believe I am typing this e-mail right now on one that was originally an AT keyboard when I found it in a trash can, and has since been "upgraded" to PS/2. Tyler Mitch Haley wrote: tyler wrote: I use the old (mid 80s) keyboards as the quality gradually went down over time. They don't have a windows/apple key, but I simply remap the "caps lock" for that purpose, as I've never found any use for that key, except for accidentally bumping it. I've got a couple of originals, circa 1982 with the ten function keys up the side. Very heavy, and very good keyswitches. There were adapters to plug them into AT motherboards at one time. I wonder if you could stack the PC to AT adapter and the AT to PS/2 adapter to hook one up to a modern motherboard? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The Cadillac is SOLD!
Well, the 1993 Cadillac is sold! I bought it from a farmer from a small town in Kansas called Beloit and sold it to a farmer in a small town called Sedgwick! Now, I will drive the Grand Marquis until I am tired of it and then the cycle starts all over again. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/44e35546/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > tyler wrote: >> >> I use the old (mid 80s) keyboards as the quality gradually went down over >> time. They don't have a windows/apple key, but I simply remap the "caps >> lock" for that purpose, as I've never found any use for that key, except for >> accidentally bumping it. > > I've got a couple of originals, circa 1982 with the ten function keys up the > side. Very heavy, and very good keyswitches. There were adapters to plug > them into AT motherboards at one time. I wonder if you could stack the PC to > AT adapter and the AT to PS/2 adapter to hook one up to a modern > motherboard? > You can indeed---I have done it. If you like having Control where the Caps Lock is on modern keyboards (next to A), that's a great way to go. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
tyler wrote: I use the old (mid 80s) keyboards as the quality gradually went down over time. They don't have a windows/apple key, but I simply remap the "caps lock" for that purpose, as I've never found any use for that key, except for accidentally bumping it. I've got a couple of originals, circa 1982 with the ten function keys up the side. Very heavy, and very good keyswitches. There were adapters to plug them into AT motherboards at one time. I wonder if you could stack the PC to AT adapter and the AT to PS/2 adapter to hook one up to a modern motherboard? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
I use the old (mid 80s) keyboards as the quality gradually went down over time. They don't have a windows/apple key, but I simply remap the "caps lock" for that purpose, as I've never found any use for that key, except for accidentally bumping it. Tyler Alex Chamberlain wrote: OK, I get it. You are not talking about the original IBM clicky Model M but the later versions with the "Windows" key between Ctrl and Alt. Not the same thing, but still decent. So Windows maps to Command. Anyone running XP on a Mac out there who knows whether there is a way to change the mappings so the keys are in the right order regardless of operating system--- i.e. Command maps to Alt and Option to Windows when running XP? Having used Macs for 20+ years and Windows since 3.1, whenever that was, I am really used to Alt on Windows boxes and Command on Macs being next to the space bar, and this question is one of the things that makes me hesitant to switching to a one-box solution with an Intel Mac. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > you can always pick em up at the thrift store for a dollar or two. they > still come with lonovo machines, but the new ones just dont' seem to click > as crisp. > OK, I get it. You are not talking about the original IBM clicky Model M but the later versions with the "Windows" key between Ctrl and Alt. Not the same thing, but still decent. So Windows maps to Command. Anyone running XP on a Mac out there who knows whether there is a way to change the mappings so the keys are in the right order regardless of operating system--- i.e. Command maps to Alt and Option to Windows when running XP? Having used Macs for 20+ years and Windows since 3.1, whenever that was, I am really used to Alt on Windows boxes and Command on Macs being next to the space bar, and this question is one of the things that makes me hesitant to switching to a one-box solution with an Intel Mac. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] inline fuel filter motherlode
Whatever happened to our parts wish-lists, Chris? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: > Found nearly 800 inline fuel filters. Paper filter material. Little brass > inserts in the inlet and outlet tubes. They are made in china, have a > Mercedes part number on the cases, but have an audi logo on the filters. > Bizarre. More bizarre: the EPC lists OM615, OM616, OM601, OM602 and OM603 as > applications for this filter, but not OM617. I'm not sure why... can't see > why it would not work on an OM607...maybe the ones with the 90 degree elbow > is specified for the OM617...? > > Anyway, I have them on ebay for $5.00 for a box of 5, plus $5.00 s&h. Buy a > couple boxes to make the shipping worthwhile ($1 added to S&H for each > additional box) and be set forever. > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > 1985 300SD 244K miles > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/ccb14486/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
What car? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:26 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > Difficult the first time. After that, not so bad. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:07 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension > > > I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 > turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for > a living... > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh wrote: > > > Andrew, > > When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. > > > > Mike > > > > On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > > Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core > >> charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel > >> wrote: > >> > >> What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh > wrote: > >>> > >>> We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be > >>>> intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be > >>>> discounted > >>>> for a fellow member. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Michael Esh wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for > >>>>>> about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no > >>>>> favors. > >>>>> If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a > trip > >>>>> that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the > engine, > >>>>> did > >>>>> you? > >>>>> > >>>>> Mitch. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- next part -- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: < > >> > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html > > > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/049483aa/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
you can always pick em up at the thrift store for a dollar or two. they still come with lonovo machines, but the new ones just dont' seem to click as crisp. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:42 PM, tyler wrote: > Good to hear somebody else has good taste in keyboards! I love these things > and have 3 of them- and use them with USB adapters on my newer macs also. > > I can type almost twice as fast, and without ever any wrist pain with these > keyboards. I program professionally and I couldn't physically type all day > long on these cheap newer membrane keyboards that feel like I'm typing on > raisins floating in a bowl of oatmeal. Plus they never wear out, and have > enough weight stay put on the desk. > > Tyler > '87 190D Turbo > > Gary Hurst wrote: > >> keyboard is >> old IBM click click PS/2 model and mouse is some cheap generic usb optical >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/99d76dad/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
Good to hear somebody else has good taste in keyboards! I love these things and have 3 of them- and use them with USB adapters on my newer macs also. I can type almost twice as fast, and without ever any wrist pain with these keyboards. I program professionally and I couldn't physically type all day long on these cheap newer membrane keyboards that feel like I'm typing on raisins floating in a bowl of oatmeal. Plus they never wear out, and have enough weight stay put on the desk. Tyler '87 190D Turbo Gary Hurst wrote: keyboard is old IBM click click PS/2 model and mouse is some cheap generic usb optical ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Difficult the first time. After that, not so bad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for a living... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh wrote: > Andrew, > When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. > > Mike > > On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core >> charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel >> wrote: >> >> What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh wrote: >>> >>> We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be >>>> intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be >>>> discounted >>>> for a fellow member. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>>> >>>> Michael Esh wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for >>>>>> about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no >>>>> favors. >>>>> If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip >>>>> that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, >>>>> did >>>>> you? >>>>> >>>>> Mitch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for a living... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh wrote: > Andrew, > When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. > > Mike > > On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core >> charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel >> wrote: >> >> What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh wrote: >>> >>> We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be >>>> intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be >>>> discounted >>>> for a fellow member. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>>> >>>> Michael Esh wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for >>>>>> about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no >>>>> favors. >>>>> If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip >>>>> that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, >>>>> did >>>>> you? >>>>> >>>>> Mitch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
the key between alt and control is the one that works for the mac stuff. i dont know the names of them. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > . keyboard is > > old IBM click click PS/2 model and mouse is some cheap generic usb > optical > > > > Ah, the second best keyboard ever made after the original Apple > Extended aka Saratoga. I take it that it works fine with the Mini > through a PS/2-to-USB adaptor? But how do the Control and Alt keys > map to Control, Option, and Command on the Mac? > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/d72bb132/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] microcenter raises old mac mini price back up to 499
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > . keyboard is > old IBM click click PS/2 model and mouse is some cheap generic usb optical > Ah, the second best keyboard ever made after the original Apple Extended aka Saratoga. I take it that it works fine with the Mini through a PS/2-to-USB adaptor? But how do the Control and Alt keys map to Control, Option, and Command on the Mac? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 44, Issue 81
Reminder: Our Patron Saint Marshall decreed that nothing goes into the
crankcase accept the recommended viscosity oil {Mobile1 being the preferred
distillate}
When I was young and foolish, I'd use cam lube on the camshaft & lifters during
assembly, use STP as an Assembly lube, leave the coil wire off untill I'd
confirmed oil pressure.
--
Peter Arnold
Windsor, CT
- Original Message -
From: "Robert Bigham"
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:49:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 44, Issue 81
Hello Loren
Make me an deal on chain and tensioner. I have a new piston, spring, and wire
clip for the tensioner up top on the side of the head, but might not be able to
find them. I understand there might be any of several curved rail tensioners
inside the timing case - at least one has a replaceable plastic shoe - but I
won't know which I have until I open the beast up.
I use Castrol 20W-50 most of the time with a quart of Rislone (to make my son
happy; he says the General recommends it) and 1/3 bottle of GM Assembly Lube to
make sure there's plenty of whatever a rubbing tappet needs.
I have a box (lifetime supply) of filters bought on the cheap on ebay - Hengst,
Mann, Knecht. The cartridges are indeed small.
Horrible confession: I sometimes don't change oil as often as I should. Once I
let it go 10,000 miles, and whatever makes 20W-50 act like 50 must have worn
out. My oil pressure dropped a lot and I was really worried. Fresh oil change
restored oil pressure then. I promise to be good in the future.
Thanks for your interest
Robert
>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:25 -0500
>From: Loren Faeth
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 102 engine oiling, time lag, filters, noises,
> whatever
>M102 has a single row chain. You should measure chain stretch, at
>least roughly. It may or may not need to be replaced.
>
>If you nee a chain, I have a new chain and tensioner that I will
>make you a deal on. Ended up selling the car before I got the new chain in.
>
>Are you using dino oil or M1? M1 might quiet things down some.
>
>As was cited before, be sure to use Knecht or Hengst filters. An
>inferior filter could allow oil to drain out, where the OE filter might not.
>Your filter is not much bigger than the oil filter on a BMW /5
>motorcycle engine, so it does not hold a lot of oil.
>
>At 11:36 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
>
>>Hello Wilton, Curt, Tyler, and any lurkers
>>
>>Thank all of you for your interest.
>>
>>Wilton, your time lag seems like mine. You don't apparently have
>>noises, and I do. The noises are not big except after a real road
>>trip - it seems as if things really drain dry after a stop when the
>>oil is as hot as it gets on the highway.
>>
>>My oil filter has a long bolt through the middle with no pipe, no
>>hole, no spear, and no o-rings. Bolt has threads on the bottom and
>>accepts a sealing washer on the top. The filter housing drains
>>essentially dry when filter removed.
>>
>>Curt - the noises go away when the oil pressure comes up, for which
>>Gott sie Dank.
>>
>>Tyler - I hope to avoid an experience like yours. I'm sure you
>>understand why. But I do have a spare engine that's supposed to be
>>good with 106K miles on it.
>>
>>I have read that one ought to replace the timing components
>>"somewhere between 150,000 miles and 200,000 miles." I suppose I
>>ought to overhaul the timing components with my 156,000 miles and
>>strange noises. As best I can tell, if the timing chain lets go,
>>I'm likely to need that spare engine.
>>
>>Best regards to all
>>
>>Robert
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 44, Issue 81
Hello Loren Make me an deal on chain and tensioner. I have a new piston, spring, and wire clip for the tensioner up top on the side of the head, but might not be able to find them. I understand there might be any of several curved rail tensioners inside the timing case - at least one has a replaceable plastic shoe - but I won't know which I have until I open the beast up. I use Castrol 20W-50 most of the time with a quart of Rislone (to make my son happy; he says the General recommends it) and 1/3 bottle of GM Assembly Lube to make sure there's plenty of whatever a rubbing tappet needs. I have a box (lifetime supply) of filters bought on the cheap on ebay - Hengst, Mann, Knecht. The cartridges are indeed small. Horrible confession: I sometimes don't change oil as often as I should. Once I let it go 10,000 miles, and whatever makes 20W-50 act like 50 must have worn out. My oil pressure dropped a lot and I was really worried. Fresh oil change restored oil pressure then. I promise to be good in the future. Thanks for your interest Robert >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:25 -0500 >From: Loren Faeth >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 102 engine oiling, time lag, filters, noises, > whatever >M102 has a single row chain. You should measure chain stretch, at >least roughly. It may or may not need to be replaced. > >If you nee a chain, I have a new chain and tensioner that I will >make you a deal on. Ended up selling the car before I got the new chain in. > >Are you using dino oil or M1? M1 might quiet things down some. > >As was cited before, be sure to use Knecht or Hengst filters. An >inferior filter could allow oil to drain out, where the OE filter might not. >Your filter is not much bigger than the oil filter on a BMW /5 >motorcycle engine, so it does not hold a lot of oil. > >At 11:36 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote: > >>Hello Wilton, Curt, Tyler, and any lurkers >> >>Thank all of you for your interest. >> >>Wilton, your time lag seems like mine. You don't apparently have >>noises, and I do. The noises are not big except after a real road >>trip - it seems as if things really drain dry after a stop when the >>oil is as hot as it gets on the highway. >> >>My oil filter has a long bolt through the middle with no pipe, no >>hole, no spear, and no o-rings. Bolt has threads on the bottom and >>accepts a sealing washer on the top. The filter housing drains >>essentially dry when filter removed. >> >>Curt - the noises go away when the oil pressure comes up, for which >>Gott sie Dank. >> >>Tyler - I hope to avoid an experience like yours. I'm sure you >>understand why. But I do have a spare engine that's supposed to be >>good with 106K miles on it. >> >>I have read that one ought to replace the timing components >>"somewhere between 150,000 miles and 200,000 miles." I suppose I >>ought to overhaul the timing components with my 156,000 miles and >>strange noises. As best I can tell, if the timing chain lets go, >>I'm likely to need that spare engine. >> >>Best regards to all >> >>Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine 102 oil filter draining down (Yes indeed it does).
Hello Wilton It drains down. My filter housing is on the driver's side of the block. It has a lid on top held on with a long bolt, remove bolt, take off cap, lift old cartridge out to the top. All done from above. Drain is in the bottom and seems to go directly into oil gallery and back through the pump into the sump. I sent you a way to see an image of the parts on a MB factory EPC earlier. Thanks for your interest. Robert Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:51:53 -0400 From: "WILTON" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will the real expert on oiling system of Engine 102 please stand up? Car Identification So, from what I'm seeing on oil filters on similar engines of that time, oil can't drain DOWN from your filter with engine off, can it? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] veg-user generalities (was: RE: similarities)
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Re: [MBZ] Black goo in fuel
Hello Lee If no one else comes up with a remedy other than new fuel tank, let me know and I'll copy some information on getting rid of bacteria or whatever (black goo) in diesel and snail mail it to you. It's supposed to be possible and even not too idfficult - you just have to do it right. Best regards Robert Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:45:39 -0600 From: Lee Einer Subject: Re: [MBZ] black goo in fuel My wife's 1980 300CD has been getting black goo in the fuel system. Recently, we had to replace the in line fuel filter twice on a 120 mile trip. What to do? I just called our local diesel repair shop. The helpful mechanic said that there was no way to clean the tank and that we would have to have a replacement fuel tank installed. LOL, I think not. How do y'all deal with algae or bad diesel crapping up your filters? Any helpful advice? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT I'm gonna buy me a murkareee
Cool! But $10K? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT I'm gonna buy me a murkareee http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1280868168.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Kaleb truck, 6.5 turbo 5sp
http://centralmich.craigslist.org/cto/1257064164.html You could carry a W201 and haul another! 95 chevrolet 1 ton 4x4 6.5 turbo diesel, 5 sp. man, 12 ft bed, 160,000 miles, runs geat, NO RUST (989) 424-7460 Edwin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Andrew, When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
ROFLOL -- Peter T. Arnold P.M. x3 All Mail to: Secretary Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 A.F. & A.M. 34 Country Club Drive Windsor, CT 06095 - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:39:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics The conspiracy freaks are lame, we're talking about a government that couldn't cover up a third rate hotel burglary 2 years later... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:57:36 -0500 From: Mountain Man Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <3485b4230907201957j46029569p57cc7246ce616...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loren wrote: > A salute to all who were involved with Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs > leading to this achievement. SALUTE! Yabbutt... Why not address the issue of whether they actually put foot on the moon? There are people who have plenty to say about the antics of the guys that supposedly put foot on the moon - never a direct answer to direct questions, etc. The concept of a walk on the moon is fascinating - now, as well as 40 years ago - but I could hear a bit more from the conspiracy freaks about the likeliness that the walk on the moon never occurred. mao -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/adafaaff/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/1ac42f9a/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
The conspiracy freaks are lame, we're talking about a government that couldn't cover up a third rate hotel burglary 2 years later... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:57:36 -0500 From: Mountain Man Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <3485b4230907201957j46029569p57cc7246ce616...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loren wrote: > A salute to all who were involved with Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs > leading to this achievement. SALUTE! Yabbutt... Why not address the issue of whether they actually put foot on the moon? There are people who have plenty to say about the antics of the guys that supposedly put foot on the moon - never a direct answer to direct questions, etc. The concept of a walk on the moon is fascinating - now, as well as 40 years ago - but I could hear a bit more from the conspiracy freaks about the likeliness that the walk on the moon never occurred. mao -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/adafaaff/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
Thats exactly what my inlaws had... Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:11:00 -0400 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4a6523b4.80...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kevin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:01:46PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: >> Curt Raymond wrote: >>> Hmm, maybe it wasn't front wheel drive then, it looked just like the one >>> in the link. I think it was a Chevy though, might have been an Olds, >>> wasn't a Buick for sure. >> The big boats were Chevy Caprice and Buick Roadmonster. No Olds. > > There was an olds available, but I've only ever seen the wagon (custom > cruiser). By golly, you and Curt are right, there was a Custom Cruiser in 1991, looks like the bulbous Caprice. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/photos/1991_Oldsmobile_Cruiser_Wagon_W.jpg -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/9114cd59/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. By not replacing much of anything? The last head job I had done cost me $120. That's to disassemble, clean, mill two aluminum heads flat, cut 12 three angle valve seats and 12 valves, trim 12 valve stems to regain the original pushrod geometry, and reassemble. Would have been a bargain if I'd noticed they got a valve keeper in wrong before I put the head back on the engine. That was a PITA to fix, would have taken me two minutes if I'd inspected the head carefully before I put it back on the engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? How many pounds of luggage is he allowed these days, and what does a 617 head with valve train and prechambers weigh? At least you know the baggage handlers won't be throwing it very far. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh wrote: > >> We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be >> intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted >> for a fellow member. >> >> Mike >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: >> >> Michael Esh wrote: >>> >>>> We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for >>>> about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? >>>> >>> >>> Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no >>> favors. >>> If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip >>> that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did >>> you? >>> >>> Mitch. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh wrote: > We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be > intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted > for a fellow member. > > Mike > > > On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Michael Esh wrote: >> >>> We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for >>> about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? >>> >> >> Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no >> favors. >> If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip >> that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did >> you? >> >> Mitch. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/6303ec81/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Now THIS is a woody!
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:06:38 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1279965685.html Really beautiful car. The price has one or two too many zeroes for me, though! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
'Always thought they looked funny/strange with that Plexiglas hump on top. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this Buy that one and relive your fond memories in a Collector Classic! --R Donald Snook wrote: Kevin wrote: "There was an olds available, but I've only ever seen the wagon (custom cruiser)." Well here you go: http://www.familycarinfo.com/1992OldsmobileCustomCruiser.html We used one of these as a Courtesy Car (giving rides to customers) at the Oldsmobile Dealership I worked at. In fact, it was the courtesy car for 10 years until they upgraded to a Olds Silhouette Minivan. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/c2e24c78/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
'Been counting to ten over and over all night trying to calm down before responding. 'Decided I may as well just go ahead and say it - what a bunch of "conspiracy" BS and crazy as Hell!! Maybe, somebody's been eating too many suspicious-type mushrooms. (Maybe I'll count to ten some more.) ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mountain Man" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics Loren wrote: A salute to all who were involved with Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs leading to this achievement. SALUTE! Yabbutt... Why not address the issue of whether they actually put foot on the moon? There are people who have plenty to say about the antics of the guys that supposedly put foot on the moon - never a direct answer to direct questions, etc. The concept of a walk on the moon is fascinating - now, as well as 40 years ago - but I could hear a bit more from the conspiracy freaks about the likeliness that the walk on the moon never occurred. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Oops - Michigan. Never mind. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:21 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > You need to have it towed back to front, i.e., with the FRONT wheels > rolling along and the rear wheels sitting on the dolly. I can't say if you > ruined the transmission, but there is a chance that you did. But don't > despair: there are plenty of wagons out there with good drive trains, if you > can do your own transplants. Are you near NJ? > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Michael Esh wrote: > >> The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the transfer of >> engine and such from the the 82. Is there a site that has information on >> the rear suspension of the wagons that would help us trouble shoot? >> >> Had trouble with front wheels wobbling and throwing the pickup around at >> about 45 MPH so we took it off the dolly and tried to drive it for a ways. >> The seller had told us the engine was in bad shape but what the heck. We >> drove it off the dolly and within minutes there was loud bang and the engine >> died. We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for >> about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? >> >> Thanks to Rick Noble for the words of encouragement on the way back to >> Michigan as well as the palomino seats he donated. All parts will be put to >> use. >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/8b4360e7/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
You need to have it towed back to front, i.e., with the FRONT wheels rolling along and the rear wheels sitting on the dolly. I can't say if you ruined the transmission, but there is a chance that you did. But don't despair: there are plenty of wagons out there with good drive trains, if you can do your own transplants. Are you near NJ? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Michael Esh wrote: > The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the transfer of engine > and such from the the 82. Is there a site that has information on the rear > suspension of the wagons that would help us trouble shoot? > > Had trouble with front wheels wobbling and throwing the pickup around at > about 45 MPH so we took it off the dolly and tried to drive it for a ways. > The seller had told us the engine was in bad shape but what the heck. We > drove it off the dolly and within minutes there was loud bang and the engine > died. We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for > about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? > > Thanks to Rick Noble for the words of encouragement on the way back to > Michigan as well as the palomino seats he donated. All parts will be put to > use. > > Thanks, > Mike > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/5fb488ff/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
Donald Snook wrote: Ed wrote: "I apologize, the Custom Cruiser moved less than 5000 units in 1992 and was then cancelled. So it was not available past that point" Here's one of those 5000 made for sale. It only has 27K miles! http://tiny.cc/iLLSL Funny, while you were posting that, I was searching for Custom Cruisers, found three, that one was teh only '92. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=259826683 http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=262956580 http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=255659026 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Paging Kleb -- 1988 mercedes benz 260E $500
Your car is waiting for you. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1279504986.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the transfer of engine and such from the the 82. Is there a site that has information on the rear suspension of the wagons that would help us trouble shoot? Had trouble with front wheels wobbling and throwing the pickup around at about 45 MPH so we took it off the dolly and tried to drive it for a ways. The seller had told us the engine was in bad shape but what the heck. We drove it off the dolly and within minutes there was loud bang and the engine died. We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Thanks to Rick Noble for the words of encouragement on the way back to Michigan as well as the palomino seats he donated. All parts will be put to use. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Now THIS is a woody!
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Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
I was stumbling through the parking lot of an invisible 7-11, and saw Elvis and Di pumping gas into his pink Eldo convertible. Then I saw a naked cowgirl floating across the ceiling. My head's in Mississippi. --R Hendrik & Fay wrote: NASA just sent a satellite to the moon to scope out the the place and it took pictures of the bits left behind from the Apollo missions. Everybody loves a good conspiracy theory, just to keep us on edge. You know like Princess Di hanging out with Elvis on that secret Caribbean island in the middle of the Bermuda triangle. Hendrik who is too busy worrying about my own stuff to focus on other stuff and whether it is true or not Thomas Savage wrote: Mountain Man wrote: Yabbutt... Why not address the issue of whether they actually put foot on the moon? There are people who have plenty to say about the antics of the guys that supposedly put foot on the moon - never a direct answer to direct questions, etc. Only tinfoil hat-wearing spazzes like to pretend we didn't go to the moon. And that's fine, but you know who never contested the moon landing? The Soviets. They were paying closer attention than anyone and had the most to lose in that race, and never said boo about it. End of discussion. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
Buy that one and relive your fond memories in a Collector Classic! --R Donald Snook wrote: Kevin wrote: "There was an olds available, but I've only ever seen the wagon (custom cruiser)." Well here you go: http://www.familycarinfo.com/1992OldsmobileCustomCruiser.html We used one of these as a Courtesy Car (giving rides to customers) at the Oldsmobile Dealership I worked at. In fact, it was the courtesy car for 10 years until they upgraded to a Olds Silhouette Minivan. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/c2e24c78/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT I'm gonna buy me a murkareee
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Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
Ed wrote: "I apologize, the Custom Cruiser moved less than 5000 units in 1992 and was then cancelled. So it was not available past that point" Here's one of those 5000 made for sale. It only has 27K miles! http://tiny.cc/iLLSL Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/534feb48/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
Curt wrote: "Hmm, maybe it wasn't front wheel drive then, it looked just like the one in the link. I think it was a Chevy though, might have been an Olds, wasn't a Buick for sure." Here's ad for the Olds Cutlass Ciera Wagon. This is the small version of the wagon and it is front wheel drive. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/a2021df1/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
Kevin wrote: "There was an olds available, but I've only ever seen the wagon (custom cruiser)." Well here you go: http://www.familycarinfo.com/1992OldsmobileCustomCruiser.html We used one of these as a Courtesy Car (giving rides to customers) at the Oldsmobile Dealership I worked at. In fact, it was the courtesy car for 10 years until they upgraded to a Olds Silhouette Minivan. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/c2e24c78/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snooks needs this
Mitch wrote: "The big boats were Chevy Caprice and Buick Roadmonster. No Olds." Wrong. There was a big rear wheel drive Olds version of this same car. But, they stopped making them in 92 then the Buick and Chevy continued until 96. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/00c7c19a/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We're all gonna dieeeeeeee.....
Craig McCluskey wrote: See http://www.co2airguns.net/collection/technical_data/Press_Temp_Data/vapor%20pressure%20diagram%20for%20CO2.jpg I had that chart saved off, maybe 5 hard drives ago. I'd forgotten that you can't really liquify CO2 with condenser temps above 80 F or 27 C. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
If anyone's interested, Google Moon, has a map of the moon to use just like the one (sorta) we use to look at our neighbrhoods. Haven't spotted the Moon Mobile - the little RV - but I'm still looking. Emjoy - http://www.google.com/moon/ ;-) LarryT Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html - Original Message - From: "Thomas Savage" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics Mountain Man wrote: Yabbutt... Why not address the issue of whether they actually put foot on the moon? There are people who have plenty to say about the antics of the guys that supposedly put foot on the moon - never a direct answer to direct questions, etc. Only tinfoil hat-wearing spazzes like to pretend we didn't go to the moon. And that's fine, but you know who never contested the moon landing? The Soviets. They were paying closer attention than anyone and had the most to lose in that race, and never said boo about it. End of discussion. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apollo pics
NASA just sent a satellite to the moon to scope out the the place and it took pictures of the bits left behind from the Apollo missions. Everybody loves a good conspiracy theory, just to keep us on edge. You know like Princess Di hanging out with Elvis on that secret Caribbean island in the middle of the Bermuda triangle. Hendrik who is too busy worrying about my own stuff to focus on other stuff and whether it is true or not Thomas Savage wrote: Mountain Man wrote: Yabbutt... Why not address the issue of whether they actually put foot on the moon? There are people who have plenty to say about the antics of the guys that supposedly put foot on the moon - never a direct answer to direct questions, etc. Only tinfoil hat-wearing spazzes like to pretend we didn't go to the moon. And that's fine, but you know who never contested the moon landing? The Soviets. They were paying closer attention than anyone and had the most to lose in that race, and never said boo about it. End of discussion. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
