date:20090913


Michael Esh wrote:
I say let them speed..better than pulling me over for going 75.  And 
when they do not speed, traffic piles up behind them and everyone takes 
off again when the police exit the hightway.


You do have a point there. Nobody wants to pass a cop when the cop's doing the 
limit. A marked squad doing 70 down the freeway would actually create a hazard.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh)



A bargain at twice the price. Why hasn't this listing been 'canceled by author' 
already?


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Re: [MBZ] Oscilloscope

2009-09-13 Thread Frederick W Moir


Rolf, Jim.
This is, as described, an Olde Tek scope. It weighs probably 50# 
and sits on an angled cart that has openings for two extra plug-ins.
That said, it works and has a calibrated sweep etc. Though the last 
time it was calibrated Pontious was a pilot!

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dinosaur juice in compression ignition engines preferred.

At 12:52 AM 9/13/2009, you wrote:
I am in Atlanta, how much you think it weighs? I found a local one 
for $75 but $40 is more my range these days.

Rolf



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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

Maybe I've been lucky - but I've never had any problems with rebuilds - 
neither the ones I rebuilt or the ones bought rebuilt.  I'm surprised so 
many have had problems (maybe not so many?).


Anyway, a friend worked at a company that rebuilt starters, alternators and 
such - he said they could machine the rotating parts in a way that they'd 
fail after the warranty had run out.   Don't know if that's true or urban 
legend but I can see machining something that would have a certain lifespan.


LarryT

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Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:54 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare


Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net writes:


HIgh quality OEM hydraulic parts can be rebuilt, every airplane you've
flown in has them.  Got to be: cleaned, honed, inspected for pits,
reassembled with high quality seals, tested and appropriately stored.
After all of that, they have to be properly installed  bleed.
I bought Reman calipers from Rusty and they were 100%


The ones I just bought, and the ones I bought before that, were remans
from Rusty. If these only last two years, I'll buy new next time.

I bled the system today and it seems to all be working well after
grinding down the left front pads.

Allan
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[MBZ] Get Wet

2009-09-13 Thread LWB250

History of the Super Soaker.  Interesting that a scientist from JPL invented 
it

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/09/history_of_the_super_soaker.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890

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Re: [MBZ] passing

you said every lane on the Interstate is a passing lane. If they were not, 
the speed (or lack of same) of left lane traffic would block everyone


Actually, that's what I was trying to avoid - when people get in the left 
lane (assume 2 lanes in each direction for this case) and drive at the same 
speed as a car in the right lane - and they *do* block traffic and long 
lines sometimes form.  It also makes people impatient and start to do dumb 
things like passing on the right or even on the edge of the road.  In this 
case it appears to be legal to pass on the right.


State laws vary on the legality of passing on the right - here's a listing 
of state laws :

http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

It appears to be legal to pass on the right on interstates - or perhaps the 
state laws take precedent - which appears to be the case.


Passing on the right on a 2 lane road appears to be illegal in all areas.


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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] passing


...Obviously, when there are 3,4 or more lanes in each direction I'd like
to
see every other lane designated as a passing lane - and when traffic is
extremely heavy, all lanes could be used to keep traffic moving - but 
when

it clears out, go back to using the left lane for passing...


Actually, in the States that know what they are doing, every lane on the
Interstate is a passing lane. If they were not, the speed (or lack of 
same) of

left lane traffic would block everyone. Did you miss this, somehow?

It's just logic.

RLE





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[MBZ] MB StarTec

I created a Free account last year and used it once in a while.  Was trying 
to access it yesterday and was not allowed to enter.  It said my UserName as 
not available for renewal.


https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

They * do* offer daily, weekly and yearly rates for access (yearly is $3k) 
but the free access seems to be gone


Has anyone else noticed this?  Am I reading the situation correctly?

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Re: [MBZ] MB StarTec

2009-09-13 Thread John Robbins


LarryT wrote:
I created a Free account last year and used it once in a while.  Was 
trying to access it yesterday and was not allowed to enter.  It said my 
UserName as not available for renewal.


https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

Has anyone else noticed this?  Am I reading the situation correctly?


Are you sure it was StarTek instead of the EPC version of StarTek?

http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/

That is the only free version I know of.  They still ask for your credit 
card, but they don't charge it.


John

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Re: [MBZ] Alive WAS Sunhil

2009-09-13 Thread John Robbins


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

you are alive?


Every so often ;)

I **finally** got the wagon on the road last night!!  It is much faster 
than I remembered it.  Not CDI fast, but still very fast indeed.  Much 
faster than my 2.5T.


John

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

2009-09-13 Thread Rick Knoble


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the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that really
made the internet so charming in earlier days.


IMHO, the destruction of mom and pop downtown shops was a top down deal, not 
bottom up.  The solution is to shop local, meaning locally owned businesses, 
not corporate mega-chains. Here on this list, it means buying from Rusty 
(and you) for new parts and K'leb  for used stuff.


Rick
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what i'm saying is that it compromises our ability to fully commit to
quality. a place like autohausaz shows up selling bosch at roughly their
cost, which, as a bosch distributor, is lower than any mom and pop can buy
it for. they have access to millions of dollars in financing, so they can
spread the word on their great prices. everyone sees they are telling the
truth as that alternator that seems to sell for about $140 is there for
$110. This is all true and nothing can be done by mom pop about it.

But then comes the sleight for hand that transforms the deal. AZ can't stay
in business, obviously, selling everything at cost, but they still always
have to support the notion that they are selling cheap. So rather than
sell a quality part that wholesales for $55 and sells for $75, which makes
them look ordinary, they simply sub a cheap chinese part they buy for $10
and sell it for $40. The consumer, now confident that AZ is cheaper can
see that they are selling the same part people want $75 to for $40.

In reality, AZ is only cheaper on bosch (basically because bosch lets them
violate their TOS, if you will, by selling wholesale to the retail public)
and has no advantage at all when comparing like with like. their solution
is to convince you to compare like with unlike and conclude that AZ is
cheaper

mom pop are now put in the position where the customer now thinks that
part X should cost him $40, which is below the wholesale cost of $55 for the
quality part. at this point, what can mom pop do other than to find some
kind of chinese part that costs less than $40 to sell for that $40 price?

where this ends though is walmart. mom pop rapidly disappear as their
customers all flock to cheaper AZ for woeful chinese parts sold by people
who were working at burger king last week. AZ can now raise the prices on
their chinese junk to $65, which is almost as much as the customer could
have gotten a quality part for when mom pop were still around. At the end
of the day, we all end up losers, except for an elite few large companies
and we look back wondering what happened to the good old days.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote:

--
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that really
made the internet so charming in earlier days.

IMHO, the destruction of mom and pop downtown shops was a top down deal,
not bottom up. The solution is to shop local, meaning locally owned
businesses, not corporate mega-chains. Here on this list, it means buying
from Rusty (and you) for new parts and K'leb for used stuff.

Rick
Off to the farmers market this afternoon, to shop local

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

We were at Goddard state park in Warwick RI.

Full menu was:
 
Coffee and dunkin donuts (required by law at any public event in NE)
Homemade clam chowdah made with freshly dug quahogs
Burgers and cheese burgers-beef, and turkey
Hot dogs
Italian Hot sausage
Curt's  special burger topping-maple bacon, peppers, onions and mushrooms
sautéed in cast iron frying pans over a vintage Coleman stove.
A huge mixed greens salad.
A nice assortment of crudités -(thanks to Fred's meticulous chopping.)
Cheescake (NY deli type)
Cold beverages

Benz menu:
1985 300D
1978 240D
1987 190DT
1985 190D 2.2
2000 S430
1975 300D

So mark your calendars and make a trip to New England second Saturday in
September next year. 

Dwight 
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

So where did you have it?  What was on the menu?

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
 In spite of a few showers, we had great gathering today. Being hardy New
 Englanders, the rain didn't bother us. We had homemade  chowdah, Curt's
butt
 kicking burgers with bacon, onions, peppers and mushrooms, etc.   Had six
 nice cars and  10  nice people. Pix to follow.

 Dwight

  

 
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Re: [MBZ] MB StarTec

John is correct, in that the EPC is still free - my subscription last year
expired, nad I was able to renew it this year at no cost.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:18 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote:

 LarryT wrote:

 I created a Free account last year and used it once in a while.  Was
 trying to access it yesterday and was not allowed to enter.  It said my
 UserName as not available for renewal.

 https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

 Has anyone else noticed this?  Am I reading the situation correctly?


 Are you sure it was StarTek instead of the EPC version of StarTek?

 http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/

 That is the only free version I know of.  They still ask for your credit
 card, but they don't charge it.

 John


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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

Don, Yes-if we know you are coming, we will make the chowdah without the
customary fried Iowa  bacon in the base.  also we will have fish cakes or
soy burgers.  And we have had tons of fresh veggies each year. 
Dwight 

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1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

I could have eaten there w/out any dietary compromises (chowda).

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 they had chowda and wicked burgers.

 Sounds good right now.

 Bob R

 On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:

  so they only had burgers?  in other words, yea, I read the post.
 
  Wonko the Sane wrote:
 
  What was on the menu?  Did you not read his post?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

Right on-I too am off to local farmers.  Destruction  of mom and pos was
diabolical plot by evil W's and other big boxes.
Conspiracy rant off.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

--
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
 downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that really
 made the internet so charming in earlier days.

IMHO, the destruction of mom and pop downtown shops was a top down deal, not

bottom up.  The solution is to shop local, meaning locally owned businesses,

not corporate mega-chains. Here on this list, it means buying from Rusty 
(and you) for new parts and K'leb  for used stuff.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

Dwight wrote:
 And we have had tons of fresh veggies each year.

Wonko - pick me up on the way east next year.
I can share driving with ya.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] California fire pix

Rolf wrote:
 Boston.com always has the most fantastic photos from any current event.
 Thanks for sharing.

Those are all probably getty images.
They are the fundamental image source for media, I believe.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

Right on again.

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

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On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

what i'm saying is that it compromises our ability to fully commit to
quality.  a place like autohausaz shows up selling bosch at roughly their
cost, which, as a bosch distributor, is lower than any mom and pop can buy
it for.  they have access to millions of dollars in financing, so they can
spread the word on their great prices.  everyone sees they are telling the
truth as that alternator that seems to sell for about $140 is there for
$110.  This is all true and nothing can be done by mom  pop about it.

But then comes the sleight for hand that transforms the deal.  AZ can't stay
in business, obviously,  selling everything at cost, but they still always
have to support the notion that they are selling cheap.  So rather than
sell a quality part that wholesales for $55 and sells for $75, which makes
them look ordinary, they simply sub a cheap chinese part they buy for $10
and sell it for $40.  The consumer, now confident that AZ is cheaper can
see that they are selling the same part people want $75 to  for $40.

In reality, AZ is only cheaper on bosch (basically because bosch lets them
violate their TOS, if you will, by selling wholesale to the retail public)
and has no advantage at all when comparing like with like.  their solution
is to convince you to compare like with unlike and conclude that AZ is
cheaper

mom  pop are now put in the position where the customer now thinks that
part X should cost him $40, which is below the wholesale cost of $55 for the
quality part.  at this point, what can mom  pop do other than to find some
kind of chinese part that costs less than $40 to sell for that $40 price?

where this ends though is walmart.  mom  pop rapidly disappear as their
customers all flock to cheaper AZ for woeful chinese parts sold by people
who were working at burger king last week.  AZ can now raise the prices on
their chinese junk to $65, which is almost as much as the customer could
have gotten a quality part for when mom  pop were still around.  At the end
of the day, we all end up losers, except for an elite few large companies
and we look back wondering what happened to the good old days.



On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote:

 --
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

 the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
 downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that really
 made the internet so charming in earlier days.


 IMHO, the destruction of mom and pop downtown shops was a top down deal,
 not bottom up.  The solution is to shop local, meaning locally owned
 businesses, not corporate mega-chains. Here on this list, it means buying
 from Rusty (and you) for new parts and K'leb  for used stuff.

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

2009-09-13 Thread Peter T. Arnold


Theres a limit.

15 years ago I needed a starter for my kids POS Ford Escort.  $150 
Rebuilt from local parts store, owed by a friend.  Same friend had 
wanted to retire and sell me the store.  I read the writing on the wall, 
had no interest.


I pulled starter, it was cooked.

Local MotorMart sold me one for $29.

My friend told me it was POS starter, maybe but it was warenteed for 
Life which ended up being about 2 years.


I cannot pay a X5 factor to support the little guy.


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the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that 
really

made the internet so charming in earlier days.


IMHO, the destruction of mom and pop downtown shops was a top down 
deal, not bottom up.  The solution is to shop local, meaning locally 
owned businesses, not corporate mega-chains. Here on this list, it 
means buying from Rusty (and you) for new parts and K'leb  for used 
stuff.


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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

Dwight wrote:
 Right on-I too am off to local farmers.  Destruction  of mom and pos was
 diabolical plot by evil W's and other big boxes.
 Conspiracy rant off.

The term we tried to invent 8 years ago (on banned) is wallyrigged.
Maybe it can stick this time.
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

the problem is that mom pop are not being abandoned for 5x but for 5
cents. and you aren't even getting the nickel for the most part, but just
getting confused on the bait and switch

and the issue is much bigger than money. it is more about destroying a fine
way of life for a really crappy one. some people care more about the kind
of world they live in than they do about the illusion of having another
nickel. alas, most people don't.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.netwrote:

Theres a limit.

15 years ago I needed a starter for my kids POS Ford Escort. $150 Rebuilt
from local parts store, owed by a friend. Same friend had wanted to retire
and sell me the store. I read the writing on the wall, had no interest.

I pulled starter, it was cooked.

Local MotorMart sold me one for $29.

My friend told me it was POS starter, maybe but it was warenteed for Life
which ended up being about 2 years.

I cannot pay a X5 factor to support the little guy.

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the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that really
made the internet so charming in earlier days.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

2009-09-13 Thread LWB250

I have expressed my opinion about the wallyworld plague before, and how it 
literally destroyed the economy and culture of the small town I lived in in 
Wisconsin.

Suffice to say that I patently refuse to buy anything from WalMart and will 
continue to do so.  I know my actions have little effect, but it's the only way 
I can express my opinion and have an effect, albeit a small one.

FWIW, we sometimes have the same thing happen selling generator parts.  Some 
things are easily sourced from others, and when people do so, they often end up 
coming back to buy the good part from us.  In a lot of cases it's dealers who 
sell stuff on eBay and online for next to nothing.  How they do it, I don't 
know, but they can't be making enough money to be profitable, I believe.

Poos



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 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 1:08 PM
 the problem is that mom  pop are
 not being abandoned for 5x but for 5
 cents.  and you aren't even getting the nickel for the
 most part, but just
 getting confused on the bait and switch
 
 and the issue is much bigger than money.  it is more
 about destroying a fine
 way of life for a really crappy one.  some people care
 more about the kind
 of world they live in than they do about the illusion of
 having another
 nickel.  alas, most people don't.
 
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.netwrote:
 
  Theres a limit.
 
  15 years ago I needed a starter for my kids POS Ford
 Escort.  $150 Rebuilt
  from local parts store, owed by a friend.  Same
 friend had wanted to retire
  and sell me the store.  I read the writing on the
 wall, had no interest.
 
  I pulled starter, it was cooked.
 
  Local MotorMart sold me one for $29.
 
  My friend told me it was POS starter, maybe but it was
 warenteed for Life
  which ended up being about 2 years.
 
  I cannot pay a X5 factor to support the little
 guy.
 
 
  --
  Pete Arnold
 
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 it are confidential to
  the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If
 you have received it
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 Please do not staple,
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 may damage your
  screen.  All communications may be subject to
 interception or monitoring by
  the men in black helicopters for security purposes.
 Please rely on your own
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 any liability for any
  damage arising from any bug or virus infection.
 
  Rick Knoble wrote:
 
 
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  the consumer is now doing the exact same thing
 he did to destroy
  downtown america to destroy the downtown small
 town component that really
  made the internet so charming in earlier
 days.
 
 
  IMHO, the destruction of mom and pop downtown
 shops was a top down deal,
  not bottom up.  The solution is to shop
 local, meaning locally owned
  businesses, not corporate mega-chains. Here on
 this list, it means buying
  from Rusty (and you) for new parts and K'leb 
 for used stuff.
 
  Rick
  Off to the farmers market this afternoon, to shop
 local
 
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

i'd have to think about it for a while. what would you say was your
original definition of the term?

there is a woman up the street who is crazy. previously, she went to war
against the snakes in the neighborhood. the snakes frighten her, so she
called the police everyday in an effort to eradicate them . then when the
police seemed to lose interest, she tried to get everyone on the block to
kill the snakes on their property. sanity prevailed, however, as these
snakes eat rats and we'd rather have snakes that just lie around all day
digesting rat than having the rats alive.

now she is calling the police about dogs. teh dogs are barking. this means
they are in distress. animal control must investigate and all the dogs in
distress must be confiscated by the government. so there is a swat team of
animal control on my corner right now investigating this dog torture ring.

so now i have to get dressed and go up the block and cuss everyone out.
this doesn't relate to anything, but it just popped up on me and i figured
i'd share :)

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

Dwight wrote:
Right on-I too am off to local farmers. Destruction of mom and pos was
diabolical plot by evil W's and other big boxes.
Conspiracy rant off.

The term we tried to invent 8 years ago (on banned) is wallyrigged.
Maybe it can stick this time.
mao

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[MBZ] assist with diagnosis on no start

2009-09-13 Thread drcscruggs

I bought a 82 300sd with the idea of a transplant engine for my G-wagen.  My G 
has the 2.8 (110) engine and I wanted to dieselize it.  Am I totally nuts 
(changing from 110 in line 6 petro to 617 diesel 5 cylinder)?  



Also, would the transmission on the G-wagen fit the 617 diesel?  




The car (300sd) is hard to start.  My thought is it is the glow plugs?  The 
glow plug light comes on and goes off (like it is supposed to do) but will not 
start without just a puff of starter fluid.  After the engine has warmed up it 
starts without hesitation.  It seems to run well after starting, tho I don't 
think the turbo is kicking in when it is supposed to do so (vacuum issue?).  
Anyway, I got this car for the engine (rust bucket) as it seemed to run pretty 
well, but is too slooow or non start (without assist).  




Can someone give an idea on what I need to do to get it to start like it is 
supposed to do? I do not like the idea of starter fluid ignition/starting ( I 
know is bad).  




Note, it has 130k on speedo (that is nonfunctional).  I believe engine/car  to 
have about 200k on it.  Why?  the seats are intact, pedal wear has about that 
(200k miles total guess on my part).   That is how I arrived at about 200k.




Long note, sorry for length, my knowledge is limited and hoping for some sage 
advice.  




Thanks 

charles


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Sent: Sun, Sep 13, 2009 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare








Dwight wrote:
 Right on-I too am off to local farmers.  Destruction  of mom and pos was
 diabolical plot by evil W's and other big boxes.
 Conspiracy rant off.

The term we tried to invent 8 years ago (on banned) is wallyrigged.
Maybe it can stick this time.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

AND - those employeed by Wal-Mart are receiving food stamps (SNAP now) to be
able to feed their families 

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 the problem is that mom  pop are not being abandoned for 5x but for 5
 cents.  and you aren't even getting the nickel for the most part, but just
 getting confused on the bait and switch

 and the issue is much bigger than money.  it is more about destroying a
 fine
 way of life for a really crappy one.  some people care more about the kind
 of world they live in than they do about the illusion of having another
 nickel.  alas, most people don't.


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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

Thanks for sharing - if she succeeds in getting rid of the dogs, let us
know.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

i'd have to think about it for a while. what would you say was your
original definition of the term?

now she is calling the police about dogs. teh dogs are barking. this
means
they are in distress. animal control must investigate and all the dogs in
distress must be confiscated by the government. so there is a swat team of
animal control on my corner right now investigating this dog torture
ring.

so now i have to get dressed and go up the block and cuss everyone out.
this doesn't relate to anything, but it just popped up on me and i figured
i'd share :)

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

no, the police will probably not help her much and then she will ask us to
help her and we wont' either. then next week it will start all over again
with something else.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:21 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for sharing - if she succeeds in getting rid of the dogs, let us
know.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:

i'd have to think about it for a while. what would you say was your
original definition of the term?

now she is calling the police about dogs. teh dogs are barking. this
means
they are in distress. animal control must investigate and all the dogs
in
distress must be confiscated by the government. so there is a swat team
of
animal control on my corner right now investigating this dog torture
ring.

so now i have to get dressed and go up the block and cuss everyone out.
this doesn't relate to anything, but it just popped up on me and i
figured
i'd share :)

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Re: [MBZ] MB StarTec

Thanks John - That's what I did wrong.  Sorry to have bothered you - I 
should have figured it out myself.


Enjoy your Sunday -
LarryT

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LarryT wrote:
I created a Free account last year and used it once in a while.  Was 
trying to access it yesterday and was not allowed to enter.  It said my 
UserName as not available for renewal.


https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

Has anyone else noticed this?  Am I reading the situation correctly?


Are you sure it was StarTek instead of the EPC version of StarTek?

http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/

That is the only free version I know of.  They still ask for your credit 
card, but they don't charge it.


John

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

2009-09-13 Thread Peter Frederick


Sadly it only takes on lunatic to ruin the peace and quiet.

We are very lucky, we have had good neighbors next door for many,  
many years.  I guess that house attracts reasonable, stable people  
(plain colonial with lots of knotty pine panelling).  Not a  
pretentious house.  The current folks are the best neighbors one  
could as for.


The new house in the 'burg next door doesn't draw such nice people,  
being and upscale sort of place, but everyone that has lived there  
has been perfectly pleasant, if somewhat obsessed with lawn care.   
The first two got into financial trouble and had to move, luckily  
actually selling the house so they didn't go bankrupt, but you know  
what I mean.


One horse's backside can make the whole place a strain

Somebody needs to tell this woman about nuisance reporting -- it's at  
least a misdemeanor and if she keeps it up, not only could she do  
jail time and get a record, someday she's going to convince everyone  
she's just making things up and then something real will come up, and  
no one will respond.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

jabba wrote:
 and you aren't even getting the nickel for the most part, but just
 getting confused on the bait and switch

I like the text on the Florida's Natural co-op premium
not-from-concentrate OJ we purchase.  Speaks to the same issue.  Other
mega-national corporations put juice in the carton from Brazil or
other less expensive source - skrew the laws that do not govern
there like they do here in USA.  So, now we need some better health
care system to cover up the cost saving from some inferior product
coming in cartons of OJ.  It is not only the nickel saved and
bait/switch - it is all of our products sourced out of our area.  Buy
local as often as possible.  Pay as much as possible for items you
need.  My son wrenches every day on cars - well, not every day now, as
biz has evaporated - but he says you can notice difference in OE
rotors, OE exhaust parts - they last, whereas aftermarket does not
last.  Whatever the difference - pay it and you will be ahead, instead
of behind.  Only we can affect business practices, since the bozos in
DC are not capable of even collecting taxes.  Eliminate DC and we
could be much better.  They accomplish nothing, anywhere.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

jabba wrote:
 but, as i've said, they don't
 care as they think they got a free nickel, when they got nothing but reamed
 and made the world a vastly inferior place.

annihilate the education system also, as they are the system that has
indoctrinated all of us of the value of a nickel.  there is no need to
be indoctrinated like this.  I did not like it when I heard Tim Worth
and Gary Hart speak it 30 years ago - I don't like it now.  Our
advanced kulture of service economy is good enuf to shove in the
sewer.  Save a nickel does not come down the line enuf to be of any
use to the people in the country.  Annihilate DC.
mao

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jabba wrote:
 i'd have to think about it for a while.  what would you say was your
 original definition of the term?

original definition? - exactly what you are speaking about.  no nickel
saved, no nickel earned, mere rape by mega-national corporation
skrewing with every last one of their suppliers to get the lowest
prices.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] assist with diagnosis on no start



Ether isn't good. Ether in a glow plug engine is very bad.
In order to start, you need fuel, compression, and heat.

Let's start with heat. The simplest thing to do is to glow for 30 seconds 
instead of cranking as soon as the light goes out.


You can unplug the glow plug harness from the glow plug relay, and jumper the 
pins in the connector on the plug harness to test the plugs individually. You 
can do this crudely with an ohmmeter, or better yet, jump an ammeter between the 
positive battery terminal and a wire to a glow plug. The plug should draw around 
20A initially and then taper down to about 10A after a few seconds. If you do 
that with all five, you'll see which one(s) don't act right.


If the plugs are all good, plug the connector back into the relay, turn the key 
on, and check for voltage at a glow plug.


Compression: one thing commonly overlooked is valve adjustment. If your valves 
are tight, it's not going to want to start when cold. While you've got the valve 
cover off, slowly turn the engine until the timing marks line up on the front 
cam tower and read the crank position on the crank damper. If the crank is five 
degrees ahead of the cam, you need a new cam chain.


If the above check out OK, post a follow-up and we'll get into fuel issues, 
starting with the hand primer pump.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

I'd also like to see congress take a few years off - I'd even be willing to 
pay for their vacation - they'd do far less damage like that than when they 
are creating all kinds of new laws that are un-necessary at best and 
socialist at worst.


We'd never miss them and the country would likely be better off the longer 
they remain on vacation.  Of course, they'd never go for it (the vacation) 
because the population would see how little they (congress) are needed.


For that matter, the federal laws passed in the last 40 years could be 
declared null and void with little or no consequence.


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jabba wrote:

but, as i've said, they don't
care as they think they got a free nickel, when they got nothing but 
reamed

and made the world a vastly inferior place.


annihilate the education system also, as they are the system that has
indoctrinated all of us of the value of a nickel.  there is no need to
be indoctrinated like this.  I did not like it when I heard Tim Worth
and Gary Hart speak it 30 years ago - I don't like it now.  Our
advanced kulture of service economy is good enuf to shove in the
sewer.  Save a nickel does not come down the line enuf to be of any
use to the people in the country.  Annihilate DC.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare


LarryT wrote:

For that matter, the federal laws passed in the last 40 years could be 
declared null and void with little or no consequence.


We're off topic for this list, but I've always thought it should be 100 years. 
(until the 100th birthday of the Federal Reserve Act, then it should be more 
than 100 years).


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] assist with diagnosis on no start

To corraborate Mitch's excellent suggestions - all the hard to start issues
i've had with 615, 616, and 617 engines have been related to one of the
following: air in a fuel line, bad glow plugs, or too tight valves (other
than too cold with the wrong oil).

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Ether isn't good. Ether in a glow plug engine is very bad.
In order to start, you need fuel, compression, and heat.

Let's start with heat. The simplest thing to do is to glow for 30 seconds
instead of cranking as soon as the light goes out.

You can unplug the glow plug harness from the glow plug relay, and jumper
the pins in the connector on the plug harness to test the plugs
individually. You can do this crudely with an ohmmeter, or better yet, jump
an ammeter between the positive battery terminal and a wire to a glow plug.
The plug should draw around 20A initially and then taper down to about 10A
after a few seconds. If you do that with all five, you'll see which one(s)
don't act right.

If the plugs are all good, plug the connector back into the relay, turn the
key on, and check for voltage at a glow plug.

Compression: one thing commonly overlooked is valve adjustment. If your
valves are tight, it's not going to want to start when cold. While you've
got the valve cover off, slowly turn the engine until the timing marks line
up on the front cam tower and read the crank position on the crank damper.
If the crank is five degrees ahead of the cam, you need a new cam chain.

If the above check out OK, post a follow-up and we'll get into fuel issues,
starting with the hand primer pump.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

I have a draft email in my Yahoo account for that purpose...

It used to be that if I just clicked out of Rusty's site my purchases would 
remain, musta been a cookie or something. Was pretty handy although a bit of a 
privacy concern.

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:32:00 -0500
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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That's what post-it notes on the side of the monitor are for 

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:31 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

  I wish Rustys site had a Wish List that lasted even when we log out!  I
 often have a few small things to order the next time I need something big
 but always forget about them!

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

Sure you could, we had turkey burgers, Fred even brought a can of garbonzo 
beans should a veggie show up...

We had:
Burgers
Dogs
Chowda
Hot sausage
peppers, onions,  and mushrooms fried with bacon

Dr. Gonzo's special peppermash was a big hit too. http://www.drgonzos.com/

Dwight thinks we've got the mix about right this year but next year if we can 
break the 6 car limit we've been stuck on I've got another special surprise to 
roll out...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:11:18 -0500
From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I could have eaten there w/out any dietary compromises (chowda).

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 they had chowda and wicked burgers.

 Sounds good right now.

 Bob R


  
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

Well we have room for about 20 cars-so keep planning for next year.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:01 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

Sure you could, we had turkey burgers, Fred even brought a can of garbonzo
beans should a veggie show up...

We had:
Burgers
Dogs
Chowda
Hot sausage
peppers, onions,  and mushrooms fried with bacon

Dr. Gonzo's special peppermash was a big hit too. http://www.drgonzos.com/

Dwight thinks we've got the mix about right this year but next year if we
can break the 6 car limit we've been stuck on I've got another special
surprise to roll out...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:11:18 -0500
From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I could have eaten there w/out any dietary compromises (chowda).

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 they had chowda and wicked burgers.

 Sounds good right now.

 Bob R


  
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[MBZ] 240D sticky throttle

So those of you who weren't at the ChowdaQ didn't get the report that I brought
my 190D instead of the 240D because of the throttle sticking on the 240D. I
drove the 240D to work Friday and the throttle was real annoying all the way
home. It'd stick at about 2500rpm which made for a nice cruise control but
annoying...

So today I finally got to look at it. I lubricated all the fittings save one
which I couldn't get apart. I bent one bit of frame back that looked like it
might have been rubbing. Lubricated all the pivot points too and still the
stick.
Finally in desparation I pulled the little shock thing, it turns out crud had
built up in the dust shield and was making the shock sticky. I cleaned it good
and now theres no problem. I took the car for a good half hour drive and it
slows like it should again.

I also got a look at the oil cooler bypass. My Indy did a real good job with
that, he ran the new oil cooler lines I'd bought up to where they belong and
then used a piece of hose to jump from one line to the other and clamped it
good. I couldn't detect any sign of leakage although the car only has 3 hours
runtime on it with the repair. At anyrate if/when I get an oil cooler it'll be
easy to install with the lines already in place.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh)

No idea but I emailed about it. Its probably sold by now...

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:16:02 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh)
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A bargain at twice the price. Why hasn't this listing been 'canceled by author' 
already?



  
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Re: [MBZ] MB StarTec

2009-09-13 Thread John Robbins


LarryT wrote:
Sorry to have bothered you 


Nonsense! You did no such thing. :-)

John


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[MBZ] OT mimosa tree

2009-09-13 Thread Fmiser

I have enjoyed seeing friends mimosa trees, so I'm thinking of
adding one or two to my yard.

And since this list is the best place on the web for quality
information on _any_ subject

Are there hidden pains, secret tricks, problems etc. regarding
having a mimosa tree?

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 240D sticky throttle

Curt
What shock thing?

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:31 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] 240D sticky throttle

So those of you who weren't at the ChowdaQ didn't get the report that I
brought my 190D instead of the 240D because of the throttle sticking on the
240D. I drove the 240D to work Friday and the throttle was real annoying all
the way home. It'd stick at about 2500rpm which made for a nice cruise
control but annoying...

So today I finally got to look at it. I lubricated all the fittings save one
which I couldn't get apart. I bent one bit of frame back that looked like it
might have been rubbing. Lubricated all the pivot points too and still the
stick.
Finally in desparation I pulled the little shock thing, it turns out crud
had built up in the dust shield and was making the shock sticky. I cleaned
it good and now theres no problem. I took the car for a good half hour drive
and it slows like it should again.

I also got a look at the oil cooler bypass. My Indy did a real good job with
that, he ran the new oil cooler lines I'd bought up to where they belong and
then used a piece of hose to jump from one line to the other and clamped it
good. I couldn't detect any sign of leakage although the car only has 3
hours runtime on it with the repair. At anyrate if/when I get an oil cooler
it'll be easy to install with the lines already in place.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] 240D sticky throttle


Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Curt
What shock thing?


I think it comes with stick shift cars to prevent surging. Cathey had fun 
cobbling one up on his 190D manny conversion.


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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

I actually have several ideas on this front.

#1. Congressional layoffs. The money saved is not just in having too many 
legislators (which we do) but that each legislator has too much staff...

#2. No paid congressional travel anywhere other than from their home district 
to Washington and back. Ever.

#3. All legislators will work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week for 1 month at a 
time. Then they go home for a month. Then another month in DC, then home. 
Missing votes is not an option without a berevement or medical release.

In Washington all legislators will be housed in dormitory style housing.
In Washington all legislators will be issued a 10'x6' office. It will have a 
desk, a computer a phone and 3 chairs. Connected will be one staff office, it 
will be 10'x10', it will have 2 desks, 2 computers, 2 phones, 6 chairs. There 
will be no carpet, no windows, no art. Offices are to work in.

I could go on all night with this.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:19:21 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I'd also like to see congress take a few years off - I'd even be willing to 
pay for their vacation - they'd do far less damage like that than when they 
are creating all kinds of new laws that are un-necessary at best and 
socialist at worst.

We'd never miss them and the country would likely be better off the longer 
they remain on vacation.  Of course, they'd never go for it (the vacation) 
because the population would see how little they (congress) are needed.

For that matter, the federal laws passed in the last 40 years could be 
declared null and void with little or no consequence.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D sticky throttle

Where is it?

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

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On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D sticky throttle

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
 Curt
 What shock thing?

I think it comes with stick shift cars to prevent surging. Cathey had fun 
cobbling one up on his 190D manny conversion.

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

I could go for that - actually the Va legislature works kind of like that - 
The General Assembly meets annually, beginning on the second Wednesday in 
January, for 60 days in even-numbered years and for 30 days in odd-numbered 
years, with an option to extend annual sessions for a maximum of 30 days.. 
There are usually 1000+ bills to consider but because of the time frame many 
are tossed out.


The gov can call a special session if there are severe budget/economic 
problems but it doesn't happen often


Also, the Gov serves for a single 4 year term, then he's gone.

I really like your ideas about the fed legislature - especially the austere 
offices - just like Walmart actually!  But for slightly different reasons - 
Mr Walton said his managers were supposed to be on the road and not in a 
fancy office.


Limiting their travel to once a year would save gobs of money.  Also, they 
should fly commercial, business class - no exceptions.  No limos, they can 
be driven to the office in a Taurus.  Count their lucky stars I'd allow a 
chauffer - but there's no reason they can all ride together in a few buses 
from the dorm!


The temps in their offices must be on 78 in the summer and 62 in the winter. 
Work fast and you stay warm!


I'd also limit their pay drastically.  Can't tie it to minimum wage because 
they'd increase min wage, but to make it equal to what, ...  say an engineer 
makes fresh out of college - $65 or $70k per year IIRC.


I'd also (as long as we're dreaming because that's what this is) I'd say no 
lawyers!  Only people with business degrees, engineering, scientific or 
economic degree's can be elected.


May as well require them to have worked 5 years at some point after high 
school but running a business would count.


Oh yeah, about campaign promises -  if they don't make a concerted effort to 
do what they promise within  the 1st 2 sessions then they must leave. 
Resign and find another job.


Also, they take an OATH to observe  protect the Constitution.  If they 
introduce things that undermine this country (like leaving our borders open) 
bring them up on charges.


You know? I bet we could pick the top 10 and start to push for this.. 
Without congress it cannot go anywhere but maybe we could get the American 
people behind it and require every legislature running must declare they 
will work within these guidelines and work to change them to the LAW!  In 
the meantime they still adhere to them.  It'd be a great vote getter for 
those running who choose to endorse our ideas IMO.


Oh well, enuf dreamin'
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Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:53 PM
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare


I actually have several ideas on this front.

#1. Congressional layoffs. The money saved is not just in having too many 
legislators (which we do) but that each legislator has too much staff...


#2. No paid congressional travel anywhere other than from their home 
district to Washington and back. Ever.


#3. All legislators will work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week for 1 month at 
a time. Then they go home for a month. Then another month in DC, then 
home. Missing votes is not an option without a berevement or medical 
release.


In Washington all legislators will be housed in dormitory style housing.
In Washington all legislators will be issued a 10'x6' office. It will have 
a desk, a computer a phone and 3 chairs. Connected will be one staff 
office, it will be 10'x10', it will have 2 desks, 2 computers, 2 phones, 6 
chairs. There will be no carpet, no windows, no art. Offices are to work 
in.


I could go on all night with this.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:19:21 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 6ebcdf75cb334ff9902a4dce28db6...@toshibalaptop
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reply-type=original

I'd also like to see congress take a few years off - I'd even be willing 
to
pay for their vacation - they'd do far less damage like that than when 
they

are creating all kinds of new laws that are un-necessary at best and
socialist at worst.

We'd never miss them and the country would likely be better off the longer
they remain on vacation.  Of course, they'd never go for it (the vacation)
because the population would see how little they (congress) are needed.

For that matter, the federal laws passed in the last 40 years could be
declared null and void with little or no consequence.

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[MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

My '86 300E is blowing the #3 fuse.

According to the fuse panel lid, #3 is in charge of parking / tail light
right, headlamp cleaning unit, illumination: license plate, instrument,
control elements [not sure that last one means].

I have tried the following -- always resulting in a blown fuse when I turn
the headlights.

- unplug right rear bulb cluster
- remove both license plate bulbs
- unplug instrument cluster

Each time, the fuse still blows.

I can't find any way to unplug the headlight wipers, other than to cut what
I think are the wires (NOT going to go there, even though the wipers don't
work).

Any suggestions? I have awakened about 3 AM several times over the past few
weeks trying to troubleshoot this. I am (was) an electronics technician, so
I should be able to track down a short -- but can't seem to. I am pretty
close to disconnecting ground from the battery and using an ohmmeter to see
if something that should be hot is actually ground, but I suspect
unexpected ground would feed back through the entire wiring harness.

--
DPAD.

The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and
confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their
own ways.
-- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger.
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have a draft email in my Yahoo account for that purpose...
 
 It used to be that if I just clicked out of Rusty's site my purchases
 would remain, musta been a cookie or something. Was pretty handy
 although a bit of a privacy concern.

Actually, a cookie is something on YOUR computer ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

Curt wrote:
 #1. Congressional layoffs. The money saved is not just in having too many 
 legislators (which we do) but that each legislator has too much staff...


Don't forget all the money put to decent use in the ekonomy - no
lobbyists allowed, since they are all layed off.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 240D sticky throttle

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:57:01 -0400 Dwight E. Giles, Jr
degco...@cox.net wrote:

 Where is it?

On a W123, it connects between the bellcrank on the side of the valve
cover and the body of the injection pump.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:32:09 -0500 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 My '86 300E is blowing the #3 fuse.
 
 According to the fuse panel lid, #3 is in charge of parking / tail light
 right, headlamp cleaning unit, illumination: license plate, instrument,
 control elements [not sure that last one means].
 
 I have tried the following -- always resulting in a blown fuse when I
 turn the headlights.
 
 - unplug right rear bulb cluster
 - remove both license plate bulbs
 - unplug instrument cluster
 
 Each time, the fuse still blows.

So the fuse blows when you turn on the headlights, but not otherwise? Is
there something that allows the headlight wipers to run only if the
headlights are on?


 I can't find any way to unplug the headlight wipers, other than to cut
 what I think are the wires (NOT going to go there, even though the
 wipers don't work).

You shouldn't have to go there. The guys in Stuttgart should have made the
headlight wiper motor replaceable.


 Any suggestions? 

Do you have a schematic?


 I have awakened about 3 AM several times over the past few weeks trying
 to troubleshoot this. 

We gotta help this guy! He needs his sleep!


 I am pretty close to disconnecting ground from the battery and using an
 ohmmeter to see if something that should be hot is actually ground,
 but I suspect unexpected ground would feed back through the entire
 wiring harness.

It might.


 DPAD.

Do I really want to know?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net wrote:
 In spite of a few showers, we had great gathering today. Being hardy New
 Englanders, the rain didn't bother us. We had homemade  chowdah, Curt's butt
 kicking burgers with bacon, onions, peppers and mushrooms, etc.   Had six
 nice cars and  10  nice people. Pix to follow.

So where are the pitchers?  I want to see what all y'all look like.

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

LarryT wrote:
 If they
 introduce things that undermine this country (like leaving our borders open)
 bring them up on charges.

I have followed this rationale for years, but am beginning to not like
the borders element of borders, language, culture (Michael Savage).
Very few of us are indigenous peoples - most of us have loong history
of past immigration, some more recent.  I am rethinking the borders
thing, as it seems a sham strawman that should be dropped.  What to do
with some of the issues open borders brings - I don't know, but I am
growing to reject the closed border thing.  It sounds more like a
boondoggle that is becoming a federal program that never ends, doesn't
do any of what it set out to accomplish, and costs more and more
dollars.  Me? - I'm ready to scrap the closed borders option.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

I doubt it -- which is why I don't think that part of the circuit is
involved.

I am going to have to print out the wiring diagram and start tracing stuff.
If that doesn't work, I will just drive the car during daylight hours (no
right rear light, no dash lights, no license lights).

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote:

 Is there something that allows the headlight wipers to run only if the
 headlights are on?




-- 
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confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their
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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

Craig wrote:
 So the fuse blows when you turn on the headlights, but not otherwise? Is
 there something that allows the headlight wipers to run only if the
 headlights are on?

Yeah - eliminate systems, somehow.
Narrow the culprit down to a handful of potential flaws.
Disconnect the wiper see if that works.
Take the bulbs out of the other systems that are related to the problem.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

I've done that already, with the exception of the headlight wipers.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Craig wrote:
  So the fuse blows when you turn on the headlights, but not otherwise? Is
  there something that allows the headlight wipers to run only if the
  headlights are on?

 Yeah - eliminate systems, somehow.
 Narrow the culprit down to a handful of potential flaws.
 Disconnect the wiper see if that works.
 Take the bulbs out of the other systems that are related to the problem.
 mao

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[MBZ] It seems I am overrun by 190Ds

2009-09-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Picked up another one today, this one is a 84 5 speed manny.  Drove it 
back home from the OKC area today, should have stopped by and saw OK Don 
but didnt have time.  Boy there is sure a difference between the manny 
and auto 190D.  For starters, going 75 on the highway results in I would 
say about 2800rpm engine speed, in the auto its probably 3300rpm or so. 
Im going to have to get rid of some of these things.


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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 
84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

Wonko wrote:
 I've done that already, with the exception of the headlight wipers.


Different chassis here (W123) - but we had similar issue that was at
the dimmer switch.  Do not touch the dimmer switch, and we had tail
lights.  Twiddle the dimmer switch?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

I should add this -- the problem suddenly appeared. We took the car to Omaha
(about two hours away) with no issues, had dash lights all the way home.
Wife mentioned that she had no dash lights in her car, and #3 fuse is what
I found. Well, actually, it started with the right rear tail light being
out, and then the wife mentioned the dash lights.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

Craig wrote:
So the fuse blows when you turn on the headlights, but not otherwise? Is
there something that allows the headlight wipers to run only if the
headlights are on?

Yeah - eliminate systems, somehow.
Narrow the culprit down to a handful of potential flaws.
Disconnect the wiper see if that works.
Take the bulbs out of the other systems that are related to the problem.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] It seems I am overrun by 190Ds

Kaleb wrote:
 Im going to
 have to get rid of some of these things.

The manny-tranny?
Let me know if/when.
mao

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[MBZ] Scary diesel ponton project

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/1370945509.html

This ought to keep someone busy for a while.  (Not me!)  At least the
price is reasonable.

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Re: [MBZ] It seems I am overrun by 190Ds

Fix up one that actually works, bring it to me, and drive your 300E home.
Maybe. No promises. AC has to be really cold, though, and you need to pay me
$500 for the top of the line tires on the 300E.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Picked up another one today, this one is a 84 5 speed manny.  Drove it back
 home from the OKC area today, should have stopped by and saw OK Don but
 didnt have time.  Boy there is sure a difference between the manny and auto
 190D.  For starters, going 75 on the highway results in I would say about
 2800rpm engine speed, in the auto its probably 3300rpm or so. Im going to
 have to get rid of some of these things.

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 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com


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[MBZ] Battery Warmer

Cold will be approaching soon.
I cannot imagine a battery tray warmer should be only made in china,
but I cannot fathom where I might find a USA made one.  Also, this
cannot be a huge design problem - can it?  Maybe someone here has the
intuition and design ideas to make one, here in USA? or give ideas how
to make one?
thanks
mao

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[MBZ] Did somebody need a 123 wagon hatch?

Andrew maybe?  This is just down the road from me---I'd be happy to go
take a look if someone on the list is interested (although shipping
might be more hassle than it's worth).  Being that this is the
salt-free Pacific Northwest, you can probably believe the seller's
claim of no rust.

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/1369805753.html

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

2009-09-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

The headlight wipers will not come on unless you have the headlights on 
at the same time you are doing the windshield washers.  In any case, you 
do not have to cut the wire to the headlight wiper motors, there are 
connectors, just follow the wire from the headlight back a little bit 
and you will see it.  Seems like you have a short in the headlights to 
me somewhere.


Wonko the Sane wrote:

My '86 300E is blowing the #3 fuse.

According to the fuse panel lid, #3 is in charge of parking / tail light
right, headlamp cleaning unit, illumination: license plate, instrument,
control elements [not sure that last one means].

I have tried the following -- always resulting in a blown fuse when I turn
the headlights.

- unplug right rear bulb cluster
- remove both license plate bulbs
- unplug instrument cluster

Each time, the fuse still blows.

I can't find any way to unplug the headlight wipers, other than to cut what
I think are the wires (NOT going to go there, even though the wipers don't
work).

Any suggestions? I have awakened about 3 AM several times over the past few
weeks trying to troubleshoot this. I am (was) an electronics technician, so
I should be able to track down a short -- but can't seem to. I am pretty
close to disconnecting ground from the battery and using an ohmmeter to see
if something that should be hot is actually ground, but I suspect
unexpected ground would feed back through the entire wiring harness.

  


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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 
84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

How reliable are the AWD 2001 300E wagons?  Especially the AWD system. 
Never really wanted one  but this one is $10K w/89K mi - seems reasonable 
altho I;m not in the market right now.  Do the AWD systems require a lot of 
maintenence?http://richmond.craigslist.org/ctd/1365741780.html


http://richmond.craigslist.org/ctd/1365741780.html
in case anyone is interested.  photos make it look nice -

LarryT

OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
www.youroil.net



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

The headlight wipers will not come on unless you have the headlights on at 
the same time you are doing the windshield washers.  In any case, you do 
not have to cut the wire to the headlight wiper motors, there are 
connectors, just follow the wire from the headlight back a little bit and 
you will see it.  Seems like you have a short in the headlights to me 
somewhere.


Wonko the Sane wrote:

My '86 300E is blowing the #3 fuse.

According to the fuse panel lid, #3 is in charge of parking / tail light
right, headlamp cleaning unit, illumination: license plate, instrument,
control elements [not sure that last one means].

I have tried the following -- always resulting in a blown fuse when I 
turn

the headlights.

- unplug right rear bulb cluster
- remove both license plate bulbs
- unplug instrument cluster

Each time, the fuse still blows.

I can't find any way to unplug the headlight wipers, other than to cut 
what
I think are the wires (NOT going to go there, even though the wipers 
don't

work).

Any suggestions? I have awakened about 3 AM several times over the past 
few
weeks trying to troubleshoot this. I am (was) an electronics technician, 
so

I should be able to track down a short -- but can't seem to. I am pretty
close to disconnecting ground from the battery and using an ohmmeter to 
see

if something that should be hot is actually ground, but I suspect
unexpected ground would feed back through the entire wiring harness.




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95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 
87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 
240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com



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[MBZ] OT: 747 Pilot Comments About Carrying the Shuttle

just east of the beach out over the water. Then, once
we reached the NASA airspace of the Kennedy Space Center, we cut over to the
Banana/Indian Rivers and flew down the middle of them to show the people of
Titusville, Port St.Johns and Melbourne just what a 747 with a shuttle on it
looked like. We stayed at 1,000 feet and since we were dragging our flaps
at Flaps 5, our speed was down to around 190 to 210 knots. We could see
traffic stopping in the middle of roads to take a look. We heard later that
a Little League Baseball game stop to look and everyone cheered as we became
their 7th inning stretch. Oh say can you see...

After reaching Vero Beach, we turned north to follow the coast line
back up to the Shuttle Landing Facility (SLF). There was not one person
laying on the beach...they were all standing and waving! What a sight I
thought...and figured they were thinking the same thing. All this time I
was bugging the engineers, all three of them, to re-compute our fuel and
tell me when it was time to land. They kept saying Not yet Triple, keep
showing this thing off which was not a bad thing to be doing. However, all
this time the thought that the landing, the muscling of this 600,000 pound
beast, was getting closer and closer to my reality. I was pumped up! We
got back to the SLF and were still 10,000 pounds too heavy to land so I said
I was going to do a low approach over the SLF going the opposite direction
of landing traffic that day. So at 300 feet, we flew down the runway,
rocking our wings like a whale rolling on its side to say hello to the
people looking on! One turn out of traffic and back to the runway to
land...still 3,000 pounds over gross weight limit. But the engineers agreed
that if the landing were smooth, there would be no problem. Oh thanks
guys, a little extra pressure is just what I needed! So we landed at
603,000 pounds and very smoothly if I have to say so myself. The landing
was so totally controlled and on speed, that it was fun. There were a few
surprises that I dealt with, like the 747 falls like a rock with the orbiter
on it if you pull the throttles off at the normal point in a landing and
secondly, if you thought you could hold the nose off the ground after the
mains touch down, think again...IT IS COMING DOWN!!! So I flew it down to
the ground and saved what I have seen in videos of a nose slap after
landing. Bob's video supports this! :8-)

Then I turned on my phone after coming to a full stop only to find 50
bazillion emails and phone messages from all of you who were so super to be
watching and cheering us on! What a treat, I can't thank y'all enough. For
those who watched, you wondered why we sat there so long. Well, the shuttle
had very hazardous chemicals on board and we had to be sniffed to
determine if any had leaked or were leaking. They checked for
Monomethylhydrazine (N2H4 for Charlie Hudson) and nitrogen tetroxide (N2O4).
Even though we were clean, it took way too long for them to tow us in to
the mate-demate area. Sorry for those who stuck it out and even waited
until we exited the jet.

I am sure I will wake up in the middle of the night here soon,
screaming and standing straight up dripping wet with sweat from the
realization of what had happened. It was a thrill of a lifetime. Again I
want to thank everyone for your interest and support. It felt good to bring
Atlantis home in one piece after she had worked so hard getting to the
Hubble Space Telescope and back.

Triple Nickel

NASA Pilot

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[MBZ] OT: Canadian and U.S. governments

2009-09-13 Thread archer


(From another list:)
Most Canadians think of themselves living in a democracy like USians, which 
is wrong (in both cases).  In reality Canada, like the US is a democratic 
republic.  The difference being that Canada evolved gradually into a 
democratic republic and US was designed to be a democratic republic.
On the face of it, the US, being carefully engineered by the founders to 
protect its citizens from tyranny and the abuse of government, should be 
less tyrranical than Canada which evolved from a once despotic monarchy, 
but the opposite is actually true.
I have lived in the US and in Canada, and have often wondered why this 
should be so.  The conclusion I came to is not very original, but may fit. 
I think that just like people, governments live up to their expectations. 
The USian expects government to be abusive and corrupt, and that is what 
they have.  The Canadian expects their government to provide order and 
stability without corruption, and that is pretty much what they have. 
That is not to say that there is no corruption or abuse by government and 
politicians in Canada, but when it occurs there is no tolerance for it. 
On the other hand, the USian expects their politicians to be corrupt and 
their many alphabetic agencies to be abusive, they are quick to forgive 
overly zealous enforcement or politicians caught with their hands in the 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah fest report

It isn't pretty!

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net
 wrote:
  In spite of a few showers, we had great gathering today. Being hardy New
  Englanders, the rain didn't bother us. We had homemade  chowdah, Curt's
 butt
  kicking burgers with bacon, onions, peppers and mushrooms, etc.   Had six
  nice cars and  10  nice people. Pix to follow.

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

I know but cookies can be tracked. If you were in the tinfoil hat set you'd be 
worried about that...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:44:11 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have a draft email in my Yahoo account for that purpose...

 It used to be that if I just clicked out of Rusty's site my purchases
 would remain, musta been a cookie or something. Was pretty handy
 although a bit of a privacy concern.

Actually, a cookie is something on YOUR computer ...

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

2009-09-13 Thread archer

Just downloaded Rainlendar from filehippo.com.  It's supposed to have a place 
where you can put stuff you want to do when you get around to it, but I haven't 
had time to play with it yet.  Downloaded it some time ago but it wasn't very 
user friendly then.  Seems to be much better now.  Its free and not too big.
Gerry

From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
I have a draft email in my Yahoo account for that purpose...
It used to be that if I just clicked out of Rusty's site my purchases would 
remain, musta been a cookie or something. Was pretty handy although a bit of a 
privacy concern.

From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
That's what post-it notes on the side of the monitor are for 

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:31 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
 I wish Rustys site had a Wish List that lasted even when we log out! I
 often have a few small things to order the next time I need something big
 but always forget about them!
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Re: [MBZ] OT mimosa tree

2009-09-13 Thread Rich Thomas


Don't do it.

--R

Fmiser wrote:

I have enjoyed seeing friends mimosa trees, so I'm thinking of
adding one or two to my yard.

And since this list is the best place on the web for quality
information on _any_ subject

Are there hidden pains, secret tricks, problems etc. regarding
having a mimosa tree?

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Warmer

Slap some Peltier chips to the sides of your battery ---

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold will be approaching soon.
 I cannot imagine a battery tray warmer should be only made in china,
 but I cannot fathom where I might find a USA made one.  Also, this
 cannot be a huge design problem - can it?  Maybe someone here has the
 intuition and design ideas to make one, here in USA? or give ideas how
 to make one?
 thanks
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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:22:26 -0400 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 How reliable are the AWD 2001 300E wagons?  Especially the AWD system. 
 Never really wanted one  but this one is $10K w/89K mi - seems
 reasonable  altho I;m not in the market right now.  Do the AWD systems
 require a lot of 
 maintenence?http://richmond.craigslist.org/ctd/1365741780.html
 
 http://richmond.craigslist.org/ctd/1365741780.html
 in case anyone is interested.  photos make it look nice -

You know, you might get more visibility if you started a NEW thread with a
new subject when you want to ask a question about a totally different
subject.

That said, if you don't need the complications of all the extra hardware
of an AWD system, you'd probably best stay away from it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

Are you sure that the borders aren't being closed to keep us in???


 I have followed this rationale for years, but am beginning to not like
 the borders element of borders, language, culture (Michael Savage).
 Very few of us are indigenous peoples - most of us have loong history
 of past immigration, some more recent.  I am rethinking the borders
 thing, as it seems a sham strawman that should be dropped.  What to do
 with some of the issues open borders brings - I don't know, but I am
 growing to reject the closed border thing.  It sounds more like a
 boondoggle that is becoming a federal program that never ends, doesn't
 do any of what it set out to accomplish, and costs more and more
 dollars.  Me? - I'm ready to scrap the closed borders option.
 mao


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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I know but cookies can be tracked. If you were in the tinfoil hat set
 you'd be worried about that...

Or you delete all your cookies either at browser close or with a manual
effort.

And you clean out your .macromedia flash folders. Like I do.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 747 Pilot Comments About Carrying the Shuttle

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:56:19 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

   I can't verify this, but it sounds legitimate.

From searching legitimate sites about the ferrying of the Shuttle back to
KSC, it's close. But I say no cigars:


 I said is that a skunk I smell? and the veterans of shuttle carrying
 looked at me and smiled and said Tires!  I said TIRES??? OURS??? 
 They smiled and shook their heads as if to call their Captain an
 amateur...okay, at that point I was.  The tires were so hot you could
 smell them in the cockpit.

With the aircraft moving forward through the air, any smell from the tires
would not be able to get to the engines to get funneled into the
compressor air directed to the cabin ventilation system.

Besides, every time a plane lands, there is a LOT of smoke from the tires.
Have you ever smelled ANY burning rubber on landing?


 We were burning fuel at a rate of 40,000 pounds per hour or 130 pounds
 per mile, or one gallon every length of the fuselage. 

The websites I consulted say a gallon every length-and-a-half of the
fuselage.


 Airliners and even a flight of two F-16s deviated from their flight
 plans to catch a glimpse of us along the way.

Extreme doubt.


 We dodged what was in reality very few clouds and storms,

They have a lead plane that seeks out the smooth route for the
747/shuttle.


 I had an idea...let's fly low and slow and show this beast off to all
 the taxpayers in Florida lucky enough to be outside on that Tuesday
 afternoon.  So at Ormond Beach we let down to 1,000 feet above the
 ground/water and flew just east of the beach out over the water.

Another extreme doubt.


 Then, once we reached the NASA airspace of the Kennedy Space Center, we
 cut over to the Banana/Indian Rivers and flew down the middle of them to
 show the people of Titusville, Port St.Johns and Melbourne just what a
 747 with a shuttle on it looked like.  We stayed at 1,000 feet and since
 we were dragging our flaps at Flaps 5, our speed was down to around
 190 to 210 knots. 

Yet another extreme doubt (YAED).



In addition, the following two extracts seem to contradict each other:

 The 747 flies with its nose 5 degrees up in the air to stay level, and
 when you bank, it feels like the shuttle is trying to say hey, let's
 roll completely over on our back

 So at 300 feet, we flew down the runway, rocking our wings like a whale
 rolling on its side to say hello to the people looking on!

With a $6 Billion shuttle?!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OK, experts, what do I try next?

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:03:19 -0500 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Craig McCluskey
 diese...@pisquared.netwrote:
 
  Is there something that allows the headlight wipers to run only if the
  headlights are on?
 
 I doubt it -- which is why I don't think that part of the circuit is
 involved.

Well, Kaleb said there is:

 The headlight wipers will not come on unless you have the headlights
 on at the same time you are doing the windshield washers.

In addition, you never answered my other question:

 So the fuse blows when you turn on the headlights, but not otherwise?


 I am going to have to print out the wiring diagram and start tracing
 stuff. 

Now that should get your old technician juices flowing! But answering my
other question should help us all get turned in the right direction.



 If that doesn't work, I will just drive the car during daylight
 hours (no right rear light, no dash lights, no license lights

That works, too.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange

2009-09-13 Thread Loren Faeth


Sounds like a plan.

However, my supply of new and used parts just got drastically smaller.


At 07:10 AM 9/11/2009, you wrote:
   If you want a easy to access place to list used parts, Yahoo 
Groups is pretty easy to set up - I can create a group for OkieBenz 
if needed - the only downside is people need to subscribe to a 
Group before gaining full access but the groups offer lots of 
flexibility in what can be posted.  A folder for parts available 
would be super easy - if you see something you want, just email the 
owner and make a deal.  Then the owner removes the sold part from 
the group folder and that takes care of maintenance.


   It would also be available for non-okie members to join also so 
you may end up with a larger audience for selling parts.


   Let me know if you want me to create a Yahoo Group for a parts 
sales tool.  Someone would need to monitor things to make sure it 
stays accurate and doesn't get hit with spam - I can monitor who 
joins the group is you wish -


LarryT
91 300D

OilAnalysis Time?
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange

You can always post what you have for sale to the list.  As for a 
message board sort or deal, that would be great as well, and can be 
added to Okiebenz.  I wonder if my couple of free labor web guys 
might know how to do that, or anybody else for that matter.

Loren Faeth wrote:
I have been cleaning house, garage, and so forth, and I am amazed 
at the pile of unused, new parts I have accumulated, along with 
used stuff to fit 110, 111,108, 107. 115, 123, 124 and 126 cars.


Fleabay is worthless
Craigslist is now spamlist, you get at least 10 spams for every 
real reply you get, and it is hard to pick out the real replies.

Nobody looks at ioffer and other would-be fleabay competitors


There is a lot of talent on the list.

Others on the list surely have the same type of stuff laying around.

And then there is Kaleb.


Here is my proposal:

We need a free place to list new and used parts for sale, open to 
anyone to buy, but only for list members (or ?) to sell
Pay by paypal.  It is simple  (yeah, I know, it is fleabay, but it 
is simple and it works)


If it gets really successful, we could also add an auction format, 
so that when getting rid of something is more important than 
price, we could list it and let the fun begin.


Anybody interested?

Anybody willing to work on the website?
I could host it, or perhaps Kaleb might want to, or someone else can.


Loren Faeth

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Re: [MBZ] 240D sticky throttle

2009-09-13 Thread Jim Cathey


I think it comes with stick shift cars to prevent surging.


They're all supposed to have them.  (The mannys.)
They tend to buck without them.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh)

2009-09-13 Thread Loren Faeth

I will sell mine for $900 this week.  Would not have sold it for $900 
last week.  In fleabay parlance: needs some buffing



At 09:48 PM 9/11/2009, you wrote:


Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:32:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: fred.s...@yahoo.com
Subject: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh)
fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting.

Please see below for more information.

Visit the posting at 
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Date: 2009-09-11, 8:11PM

1987 Mercedes Benz Wagon

6cylynder Turbo Diesel 300TD

power steering Driverside airbag

all leather seats interior seats 8

262,474 mls

cooper lifeliner GLS tires 195/65/R15

aluminum alloy stock rims

Good carfax report on service

$900oo or Best Offer!!! CALL-(603) 479-3375











   * Location: fremont, nh
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Re: [MBZ] Linux webserver botnet pushes malware

2009-09-13 Thread Loren Faeth







Uh, Wonko, what was that about no virus on linux.  We all know it is 
invincible because it is open source...


RIGHT!  WHO IS THIS REALLY? (Noah)


At 03:23 PM 9/12/2009, you wrote:

Attack of the open source zombies
...
A security researcher has discovered a cluster of infected Linux 
servers that have been corralled into a special ops botnet of sorts 
and used to distribute malware to unwitting people browsing the web.
Each of the infected machines examined so far is a dedicated or 
virtual dedicated server running a legitimate website, Denis 
Sinegubko, an independent researcher based in Magnitogorsk, Russia, 
told The Register. But in addition to running an Apache webserver to 
dish up benign content, they've also been hacked to run a second 
webserver known as nginx, which serves malware.


What we see here is a long awaited botnet of zombie web servers! A 
group of interconnected infected web servers with [a] common control 
center involved in malware distribution, Sinegubko wrote here. To 
make things more complex, this botnet of web servers is connected 
with the botnet of infected home computer(s).
The finding highlights the continuing evolution of bot herders as 
they look for new ways to issue commands to the hundreds of 
thousands of infected zombies under their control. It came the same 
day anti-virus provider Symantec reported Google Groups was being 
used as a master control channel for a recently discovered trojan. 
Four weeks ago, a researcher from Arbor Networks made a similar 
discovery when he found several Twitter profiles being used to run 
a botnet.snip

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/12/linux_zombies_push_malware/

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Warmer