Re: [MBZ] Head flatness

[Jim Cathey]

and on the corner where the coolant leak was I have gap of (.075 mm) I 
think the limit is (.08 mm). This is checking with a machine tool flat 
alignment bar. Not sure if I want to have the head milled.


I thought MB was pretty anal about this, and if it was under the
limit then it was good.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] New battery technology, at a cost

[Jim Cathey]

So, have they solved the 20% per year (independent
of charge/discharge cycles) capacity loss that was
inherent in LiON batteries?  Or, like for phones and
computers, do they just disregard this and hope you
don't notice?

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] DIY not

[Jim Cathey]

Not everything booth said was always 100% correct.  I bet I can slap a 
good used piston in, replace the one rod and be good to go.  Somebody 
on this list replace their bent #1 rod only and have not had a bit of 
trouble.


You are probably right, especially if you're not planning
to get another 200kmi out of it.  But the other 5 rods
will be vulnerable to exactly the same problem, so keep
a weather eye out.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] hey OK Don, what is that GPS you have?

[Dieselhead]

We had a Canadian engineer who bought a new R Diesel  in the US in 
2008, and he tried to use the GPS in it to navigate.  It tried to 
take him to exits that had been gone two years or more, and in 
general was unable to get him to his destination.  Before he finished 
and went back to Canada, he quit using it and used a paper map.  He 
said he got a real deal on the R, and he loved it other than the GPS. 
When I talked to him a couple of months ago, he still loves the R.


The Iway also used Navteq maps.  This is a question for you maybe 
you will know, is there some sort of update for the Navteq maps that 
will work on any GPS?  The only thing really wrong with mine is the 
maps are a couple of years out of date, and I cant find an update 
that says iWay.


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Re: [MBZ] Head flatness

[E M]

What's the average going rate for new valve guides on W124 head ?

Thanks,

Ed
300E

2009/12/1 Frederick W Moir 

> Robert.
> Check around the combustion chambers for a wear ring from the gasket. If
> there is one the head should be planed. Around here, clean and skim is less
> than $100.
> My $0.02
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
>
>
> At 09:00 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
>
>> I got the head off my E300 over the holiday. checked the flatness of the
>> head and on the corner where the coolant leak was I have gap of (.075 mm) I
>> think the limit is (.08 mm). This is checking with a machine tool flat
>> alignment bar. Not sure if I want to have the head milled.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robert Massmann
>> Oregonia, Ohio 45054
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Dieselhead]

Ja,

I used my "merican tools on that Whitworth and BSF junk on my (then 
new) purple turnip.



Dwight, Curt, et al.
Wot no BSF of Whitworth?
Fred Moir



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Re: [MBZ] blown?

[RELNGSON]

> ...So you think they will replace your Turbo when the battery overheats 
> and sets the thing on fire? Or does that only happen to cell phones and 
> laptops?...
> 
Turbo? MY Turbo? You are thinking of someone else, to be sure.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Generators

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:52:51 -0600 OK Don  wrote:

> That's what I thought. I guess the voltage across the two would be
> interesting to watch on a scope though 

As long as you used two scope probes and two input channels and added one
channel to the inverted representation of the other so you didn't try to
float the scope.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Frederick W Moir]

Jim, et al.
Yup! 10mm XZN, long extension
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred

At 11:20 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:

While we're on the subject
2.6 head bolts. What size XZN? 8 mm? 10 mm? It IS XZN, right?
I want to do the head gasket this weekend and I've never had a
Mercedes cam cover off before.  What am I going to find in there?
Any other 'might not be in the toolbox' tools that I ought to know
about?
Thanks in advance.
Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Generators

[OK Don]

That's what I thought. I guess the voltage across the two would be
interesting to watch on a scope though ---

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:40:48 -0600 OK Don  wrote:
>
> > What if you power each half of the 220 death defyinhg wire with a
> > seperate tiny generator? Double the fun?
>
> As long as you don't try to run a 220 V appliance, you won't see any
> difference. The 110 V will make things function as they ought. The voltage
> seen on a 220 V outlet, however, will go between 220 V and zero at a rate
> that's the difference in frequency between the two generators.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with
> others.
> The Devil's Dictionary
> Ambrose Bierce
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Generators

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:40:48 -0600 OK Don  wrote:

> What if you power each half of the 220 death defyinhg wire with a
> seperate tiny generator? Double the fun?

As long as you don't try to run a 220 V appliance, you won't see any
difference. The 110 V will make things function as they ought. The voltage
seen on a 220 V outlet, however, will go between 220 V and zero at a rate
that's the difference in frequency between the two generators.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] DIY not

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Not everything booth said was always 100% correct.  I bet I can slap a 
good used piston in, replace the one rod and be good to go.  


New rings no matter what else you do, OK?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

I don't remember seeing any springs, maybe thats part of the problem...


Or maybe the flex joint is farther upstream.

Looking at the pic from Bosal, I don't see a spring-loaded joint, so I don't 
know how it works.

http://info.rockauto.com/Bosal/Detail2.html?05211751.gif

http://info.rockauto.com/Walker/Detail.html?128-953.jpg

Here we go, this looks like the donut in a flex joint to me:
https://b2b.bosalnafta.com/products/partsimages/BOS256002-1.jpg


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Re: [MBZ] New battery technology, at a cost

[Rich Thomas]

So you think they will replace your Turbo when the battery overheats and 
sets the thing on fire?  Or does that only happen to cell phones and 
laptops?


--R

relng...@aol.com wrote:
 New Lightweight Battery Option for The Porsche 911 GT3, 911 GT3 RS and 
Boxster Spyder



  


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[MBZ] New battery technology, at a cost

[RELNGSON]

 New Lightweight Battery Option for The Porsche 911 GT3, 911 GT3 RS and 
Boxster Spyder

 ATLANTA, Nov. 23, 2009 – Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, is the 
first car maker in the world to offer a starter battery with lithium-ion 
technology. Weighing less than 13 lb or 6 kg, the new battery is more than 22 
lb 
or 10 kg lighter than a conventional 60 Ah lead battery.

 The new lithium-ion battery will be available as an option as of January 
2010 for the 911 GT3, 911 GT3 RS, and Boxster Spyder and is delivered with 
the car. It is priced at $1,700.
 The new battery was developed specifically for lower weight. In sports 
cars designed for superior driving dynamics as is the case with both versions 
of the 911 GT3 and the Boxster Spyder, less weight naturally means greater 
agility and driving dynamics.

 The lithium-ion battery has the same length and width dimensions of the 
regular battery, but is approximately 2.8” or 70 millimeters lower. The 
fastening points, electrical connections and voltage range are fully 
compatible, 
allowing simple and quick replacement of the standard lead battery, for 
example when racing on the track.
 The cars are delivered with both batteries and are ready for use 
throughout the whole year. The lightweight battery offers a very high standard 
of 
everyday driving qualities but its starting capacity is limited at temperatures 
below 32 degrees F or 0 degrees C, due to its specific features.

 With its nominal capacity of 18 Ah, the lithium-ion battery offers a level 
of practical output and performance not only comparable to that of a 60 Ah 
lead battery, but better in many cases.
 Only about 30 percent of the total capacity is actually available for 
practical use with a conventional car battery, but this restriction does not 
apply to the lithium-ion battery. On the contrary, through its distinctive comp
osition – and, in particular, the independence of the chemical composition 
of the electrolytes from the charge status – a lithium-ion battery 
consistently offers almost 100 percent of its capacity.

 Power delivery by the lithium-ion battery throughout its useful charge 
range is likewise better, providing its full power, for example, when starting 
the engine as the energy level is mostly independent of the current charge 
level.

 After the engine has started, the new Porsche battery shows further 
benefits in the charge process as it is able to charge quicker due to less 
internal resistance. Other advantages: the lithium-ion battery allows for a 
significantly greater number of charging and discharging cycles, the 
self-discharging effect is lower and the service life of the battery is longer.

 The lithium-ion battery being introduced by Porsche as the pioneer in this 
area is made up of wound film of carbon and iron phosphate with a ceramic 
film moisturized by the electrolyte that serves as a separating layer in 
between. Compared with other types of lithium-ion batteries that use a 
combination of manganese oxide, cobalt oxide or nickel, this 
lithium-iron-phosphate 
battery, as it is called, offers advantages when used as a starter battery. 
It is robust and consistently guarantees the usual voltage of 12 V for the car
’s on-board network.

 The lightweight battery is made up of four cells and integrated electronic 
controls. This battery management system protects the battery from major 
discharges and guarantees a consistent charge level within the individual 
cells. Once battery voltage drops below a certain threshold, a warning signal 
reminds the driver to re-charge the battery either simply by driving the car 
or by means of a conventional battery charger.

 The new lithium-ion battery will also be available for retrofitting from 
February 2010 on the three models mentioned from Porsche Tequipment.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Jim Arnott]

While we're on the subject

2.6 head bolts. What size XZN? 8 mm? 10 mm? It IS XZN, right?

I want to do the head gasket this weekend and I've never had a  
Mercedes cam cover off before.  What am I going to find in there?


Any other 'might not be in the toolbox' tools that I ought to know  
about?


Thanks in advance.

Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 300TD Rear lift gate shock bolts

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:01:58 -0500 Michael Esh  wrote:

> I had to replace the rear hatch struts on my and wagon and had a very  
> difficult time getting the bolts out of the forward fittings.  They  
> are star bolts and I ended up having to drill them out and use an ez- 
> out to remove them.  Do I have to get replacement bolts from a  
> dealership?

Call Rusty tomorrow at (800) 741-5252 and ask.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] License plate frames

[TE]

Funny... we'll see if it lasts. As for other weird NC news, I went to the
DMV today to register my 79 Lincoln Mark V and they changed back to blue
plates. WTF happened with the red? It took them that long to realize that
red can barely be read on a moving car?

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:53 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] License plate frames

As of today, in NC, license plate frames that obscure the state name or
registration stickers are illegal.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] the resurrection

[RELNGSON]

> Not everything booth said was always 100% correct.   I bet I can slap 
> a
> good used piston in, replace the one rod and be good to go.   Somebody on
> this list replace their bent #1 rod only and have not had a bit of 
> trouble...
> 
Other than your time, you don't have much to lose by trying this idea. Go 
for it. The engine swap can come later.

RLE
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] MB nav

[RELNGSON]

...Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> As someone in the business, who works on the real "mercedes" of 
Navigation
> systems that Mercedes actually uses, I say go for a Garmin.  They use 
high
> quality Navteq maps, which are a critical part of a Navigation system's
> ability to work properly.

Speaking of that very subject, the Nav system in my 2008 W204 has had one 
(very costly) update disc issued, as far as I know. Is anything else coming?

I don't use mine much but there are a lot of complaints about it (MB vs the 
others) on the mbworld.org website.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[OK Don]

The big wrench is for lossening the big nut in the middle that clamps the
splined slip joint - you need to be able to collapse the shaft to get it off
of the pilot shaft on the differential ---

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> For the driveshaft removal I'll have my compliment of wrenches and whatnot.
>
> Speaking of which looking at Peachparts it seems as though a big wrench or
> pipewrench is required/handy for removing the driveshaft, can anybody
> comment on that? I'll be towing with the car on a dolly and as its an auto
> and I'll be going nearly 100 miles I figured I'd better get the driveshaft
> off.
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with
> others.
> The Devil's Dictionary
> Ambrose Bierce
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Dieselhead]

Yes, and absolutely.  When it comes to really stubborn stuff, a new, 
genu-wine vicegrip works best.  On the vw, once the allen heads were 
ruined, I figured clamping on a vicegrip was not going to hurt 
anything.


a few new bolts from Rusty (or from some vw dealer in that case) is 
cheaper than having to take the car in to some shop.Since that 
was before I knew about Rusty, and undoubtedly before anyone was 
selling parts online, I used the same vicegrips to tighten the bolts 
after the repair.  I figured I would not own the VW long enough to 
have to deal with it again, and if I did, I owned the secret weapon, 
vicegrips.


I tried a little with vicegrips when last I messed with it but 
didn't want to booger the heads. Maybe if I needed to try it again 
I'd buy a brand new pair of real vicegrip brand locking pliers...


-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] hey OK Don, what is that GPS you have?

[Greg Fiorentino]

+1 on the Garmin.  I bought one for the wife a while back.  I found that I
could get a free upgrade on the maps, but had trouble downloading the
update.  I phoned customer support and was NOT on hold at all.  I got a guy
in Olathe KS who knew what to do and got me back up and running in minutes.

The unit does everything you need for an automotive GPS.

Just a satisfied customer.

Greg

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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey OK Don, what is that GPS you have?

The Iway also used Navteq maps.  This is a question for you maybe you 
will know, is there some sort of update for the Navteq maps that will 
work on any GPS?  The only thing really wrong with mine is the maps are 
a couple of years out of date, and I cant find an update that says iWay.

Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> As someone in the business, who works on the real "mercedes" of Navigation
> systems that Mercedes actually uses, I say go for a Garmin.  They use high
> quality Navteq maps, which are a critical part of a Navigation system's
> ability to work properly.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
wrote:
>
>   
>> Was it a Garmin?  I cant remember.  The one I have had for several years
is
>> a Lowrance Iway 500c, but the maps are starting to get a little outdated
and
>> there is not update available for it.  The one that replaced it, the 600c
is
>> also out of production and I guess Lowrance is getting out of the auto
gps
>> business.  Its quite a shame.  I was looking at the stuff at best buy or
>> wherever, the Garmins, Tomtom etc, and the Lowrance is just the Mercedes
of
>> GPS units, the rest seem just cheap in comparison.
>>
>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>> 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89
>> 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro
>> manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
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Re: [MBZ] support

[Mountain Man]

Kaleb wrote:
> speaking of which, am I supposed to be finding you some parts?

I think you should find all of us some parts for 12.5% greater price
than next month.
I mean, all the other parts guys are doin' deals - why not Okie parts deals?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD Rear lift gate shock bolts

[Greg Fiorentino]

I did this job on the '79 a few months back and don't recall any problems
other than fitting things in tight spaces.  I'm thinking that a stronger
class of bolt should be used in this application, ...might cost a buck or 2
more.  It seems to me that there is considerable force on these parts, and
better to over engineer than not.  Perhaps an alloy socket-head cap screw,
which are readily available without going to the stealership.

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300TD (with new crate engine)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics
'97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke

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On Behalf Of Michael Esh
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD Rear lift gate shock bolts

Thanks Kaleb,
I make things so difficult somtimes I wonder how I accomplish anything.
Mike


On Dec 1, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> I would think you could just get the proper size and thread pitch  
> and it should be fine.
>
> Michael Esh wrote:
>> I had to replace the rear hatch struts on my and wagon and had a  
>> very difficult time getting the bolts out of the forward fittings.   
>> They are star bolts and I ended up having to drill them out and use  
>> an ez-out to remove them.  Do I have to get replacement bolts from  
>> a dealership?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD Rear lift gate shock bolts

[Michael Esh]

Thanks Kaleb,
I make things so difficult somtimes I wonder how I accomplish anything.
Mike


On Dec 1, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I would think you could just get the proper size and thread pitch  
and it should be fine.


Michael Esh wrote:
I had to replace the rear hatch struts on my and wagon and had a  
very difficult time getting the bolts out of the forward fittings.   
They are star bolts and I ended up having to drill them out and use  
an ez-out to remove them.  Do I have to get replacement bolts from  
a dealership?

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [MBZ] 300TD Rear lift gate shock bolts

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I would think you could just get the proper size and thread pitch and it 
should be fine.


Michael Esh wrote:
I had to replace the rear hatch struts on my and wagon and had a very 
difficult time getting the bolts out of the forward fittings.  They 
are star bolts and I ended up having to drill them out and use an 
ez-out to remove them.  Do I have to get replacement bolts from a 
dealership?

Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] support

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

speaking of which, am I supposed to be finding you some parts? 


Curt Raymond wrote:

Yeahbut I don't complain...

BTW, Kaleb, thanks for supporting this list and making it available for us, I 
really appreciate it!

And I buy parts from Kaleb, money in his pocket pays for the list.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:35:58 EST
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Ahh the complaints of a non-supporter of a free service...


What do you mean by "non-supporter?" I can't picture anyone as cheap as you 
sending money to Kleb for anything.


RLE


  
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Re: [MBZ] Broken plastic front seat belt buckle on W123 300TD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you just need to replace the entire seat belt assembly, not the cover 
for the pillar.


andrew strasfogel wrote:

Part of the plastic male fitting on my right front seat belt has broken
off.  The seat belt still works, but it's probably a safety issue so I want
to fix it.  Do I need to replace the entire seat belt assembly, including
the upholstered vinyl pillar covering for the reel??Otherwise, how would
I thread in a new belt or buckle?

Andrew
1985 300TD (blue interior)
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Re: [MBZ] 91 300e parts needed

[OK Don]

$215 - I wonder what Rusty or Jabba sell them for? Are these Chinese
knock-offs?

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Troy Kocher wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a passenger side front turn signal and headlight
>> assembly they would like to part with.  My son hit a deer.
>>
>> Please reply off list.
>>
>>
>
> Would something like this do the trick?
> search.ebay.com/380176903570
>
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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Here is what I know.  Engine has right around 150K on it, everything 
else looks just fine.  Before I pulled the head I check the compression 
and posted the results here.  Basically everything was just fine, #1 was 
lower than the rest, but still in spec. I also posted the measurements I 
took of the bores, which i could not make much sense out of.  The 
consensus was yes #1 was worn, but not terribly so.  I think my options 
at this point with this engine is to just replace #1 rod and piston, put 
it back together and see what happens.  Spend more money and replace all 
6 rods, which I hate to do if its not going to last anyway, just put in 
a straight used rod of the original type, and see how long it goes, or 
dig out that spare 603 and see what its story is. 

I want to hear from the guy who only replaced  his #1 rod.  Im going to 
have to look back thru my emails and see who that was.


Frederick W Moir wrote:

Kaleb.
This may get a bit wordy.
The engine in question is worn with x miles on it and who knows what 
kind of previous care.
The minimum necessary work to return it to service is:- one used 
piston, no more worn than the 5 remaining and of the same weight (mass?).

Six connecting rods true and balanced, plus gaskets etc.
Six rods because the remaining ones are flawed.
Pistons matched by weight.
We never scratch honed cylinders, they seat slower but tighter when 
put into a smooth bore.
The cylinder bores are worn out of spec. They were however running 
well and, absent the bent rod issue, would have continued to do so for 
the remainder of the engines useful life.
It is a gamble. Yours to choose. Being the type who likes to return 
things to Mfg. spec. I wouldn't do it,  but you may well get away with 
it.
The short block from your spare engine would bolt in, after 
inspection. Nicht wahr?

My groats worth.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


At 09:07 AM 12/1/2009, you wrote:

you wouldnt what?  Return the engine to service?

Frederick W Moir wrote:

Kaleb, et al.
The piston is no longer "round". A lot of pistons are "Cam ground"/



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Re: [MBZ] 91 300e parts needed

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

see the link at the bottom of each message.

Troy Kocher wrote:

Does anyone have a passenger side front turn signal and headlight
assembly they would like to part with.  My son hit a deer.

Please reply off list.

Troy Kocher

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[MBZ] ATTN Dave Walton

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Hey dave,

Did you check out those pics I posted after I pulled my #1 rod/piston?  
Did your look similar when you did it.  So you just replaced the 1 rod, 
how many miles have you put on it since?


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Re: [MBZ] Generators

[OK Don]

Hmmm - clean the loose rust out of the can with a handfull of nuts (steel,
not pecan) and a lot of shaking, rinse, dry, then coat with POR or the
special motorcycle tank saver stuff?

What if you power each half of the 220 death defyinhg wire with a seperate
tiny generator? Double the fun?

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>  Thanks! Sounds like you need a new gas can though ;)
>>
>
> It's an heirloom!  When it starts leaking out the bottom,
> then I'll maybe replace it.  All the new ones are plastic...
>
>
> So... My house has 220v for the dryer and range. My teeny 1200w (peak mind
>> you) generator does not. From what has been discussed on the 220v talks so
>> far if I just run a cable of death I'll probably find that I've only got
>> half my 110v outlets working, does that sound right?
>>
>
> No, not if you wire L1-L2 together and feed into that and Neutral.
> (This is all part of the magic cable, the cable of Happiness and
> Death, Charlie!)  Then all your 120V circuits are energized, and
> none of the 220V ones are.  It's a really slick way to feed a house
> with an underpowered generator.  You can only back-feed one of
> these sockets if it has Neutral, which four-pin sockets do for
> certain.  If you have a 220V-only (no Neutral) appliance, you
> can't attach a generator there because you won't have a
> center-tap, and you will likely explode something.
>
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Curt Raymond]

For the driveshaft removal I'll have my compliment of wrenches and whatnot.

Speaking of which looking at Peachparts it seems as though a big wrench or 
pipewrench is required/handy for removing the driveshaft, can anybody comment 
on that? I'll be towing with the car on a dolly and as its an auto and I'll be 
going nearly 100 miles I figured I'd better get the driveshaft off.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:59:17 -0500
From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
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Curt,
I have  10mm socket we can use on Saturday but I don't know about the rest
of your specs.- XZN
Foreign to me. I grew up on 9/16"
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


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On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square

Curt.
I have a 10mm. 'arfinch drive XZN socket that you can borrow.
Snap-on S6193
I'd send a picture, but the noise level is too high. I could send one off
list?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Curt Raymond]

That'd be a driver though wouldn't it? Sits in the bolthead?
I need a cap driver (I'm sure theres better terms than I'm using) sits OVER the 
head of the bolt.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:48:00 -0500
From: "Robert Massmann" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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    reply-type=original

I just bought a set at an auto parts outlet. Brand Name "Performance Tools". 
It had the 6, 8, 10, 12 mm for only about 7.00 dollars. They appeared 
stronger than an S & K set, one of which stripped when I was removing the 
head on my E300 with a leaky head gasket.

Regards,
Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio 45054

1995 E300D 281K
1985 300CD 328K
1982 300D 250K
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Frederick W Moir]

Dwight.
Yea verily.
Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious by this son of York.
If memory serves, Richard the Third-rate.
Y'know, like Fred o' Lynn and all other typos.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
MG owners lament. A Whitworth, a Whitworth, my kingdom for a Whitworth.
"They're coming to take me away, ha har."

At 09:14 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:

BSF of Whitworth???
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.



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Re: [MBZ] DIY not

[Bob Rentfro]

BLASPHEMER!!!

Bob R

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Not everything booth said was always 100% correct.  I bet I can slap a good
> used piston in, replace the one rod and be good to go.  Somebody on this
> list replace their bent #1 rod only and have not had a bit of trouble.
>
> Donald Snook wrote:
>
>> RLE wrote:
>>
>> "Ya know, even before I was kicked off the Ritter list which was a few
>> years
>> back, it was well known and discussed widely that these engines were
>> designed on the verge of failure and that the only acceptable repair was a
>> factory
>> reman."
>>
>> That's exactly what Dr. Booth used to say.
>>
>>
>> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Head flatness

[Frederick W Moir]

Robert.
Check around the combustion chambers for a wear ring from the gasket. 
If there is one the head should be planed. Around here, clean and 
skim is less than $100.

My $0.02
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

At 09:00 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
I got the head off my E300 over the holiday. checked the flatness of 
the head and on the corner where the coolant leak was I have gap of 
(.075 mm) I think the limit is (.08 mm). This is checking with a 
machine tool flat alignment bar. Not sure if I want to have the head milled.


Regards,
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Oregonia, Ohio 45054



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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

BSF of Whitworth???

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


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On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square

Dwight, Curt, et al.
Wot no BSF of Whitworth?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
I was in the Air Force when Pontius was a pilot!

At 08:59 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
>Curt,
>I have  10mm socket we can use on Saturday but I don't know about the rest
>of your specs.- XZN
>Foreign to me. I grew up on 9/16"
>Dwight


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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Frederick W Moir]

Dwight, Curt, et al.
Wot no BSF of Whitworth?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
I was in the Air Force when Pontius was a pilot!

At 08:59 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:

Curt,
I have  10mm socket we can use on Saturday but I don't know about the rest
of your specs.- XZN
Foreign to me. I grew up on 9/16"
Dwight



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[MBZ] Head flatness

[Robert Massmann]

I got the head off my E300 over the holiday. checked the flatness of the head 
and on the corner where the coolant leak was I have gap of (.075 mm) I think 
the limit is (.08 mm). This is checking with a machine tool flat alignment bar. 
Not sure if I want to have the head milled.

Regards,
Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio 45054

1995 E300D 281K
1985 300CD 328K
1982 300D 250K
1981 Rabbit Truck 200K
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Curt,
I have  10mm socket we can use on Saturday but I don't know about the rest
of your specs.- XZN
Foreign to me. I grew up on 9/16"
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square

Curt.
I have a 10mm. 'arfinch drive XZN socket that you can borrow.
Snap-on S6193
I'd send a picture, but the noise level is too high. I could send one off
list?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Looking for a small country to rule.
Diesel preferred

At 04:31 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
>Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to 
>remove the axles from a 201 or 124?
>I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) 
>rather than sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...
>Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and 
>those look like a driver will work which is really strange because I 
>KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets 
>(pounded them on, don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally 
>in my last go-around with the diff my Indy did the replacement for 
>me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff 
>in my 190D needs replacement (which is more or less why I'm getting 
>the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.
>Very strange.
>-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Robert Massmann]

I just bought a set at an auto parts outlet. Brand Name "Performance Tools". 
It had the 6, 8, 10, 12 mm for only about 7.00 dollars. They appeared 
stronger than an S & K set, one of which stripped when I was removing the 
head on my E300 with a leaky head gasket.


Regards,
Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio 45054

1995 E300D 281K
1985 300CD 328K
1982 300D 250K
1981 Rabbit Truck 200K

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Triple square


Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to 
remove the axles from a 201 or 124?
I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) rather 
than sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...


Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and those 
look like a driver will work which is really strange because I KNOW my car 
has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets (pounded them on, 
don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally in my last go-around with 
the diff my Indy did the replacement for me. I'm getting a parts car 
(probably anyway) Saturday and the diff in my 190D needs replacement 
(which is more or less why I'm getting the car) and I'm gonna do it myself 
this time.


Very strange.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] DIY not

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Not everything booth said was always 100% correct.  I bet I can slap a 
good used piston in, replace the one rod and be good to go.  Somebody on 
this list replace their bent #1 rod only and have not had a bit of trouble.


Donald Snook wrote:

RLE wrote:

"Ya know, even before I was kicked off the Ritter list which was a few years
back, it was well known and discussed widely that these engines were
designed on the verge of failure and that the only acceptable repair was a 
factory
reman."

That's exactly what Dr. Booth used to say.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

this SURE sounds like the next post will be Snookie wanting somebody to 
buy HIS BMW.


Donald Snook wrote:

Ok Don wrote: "Hmmm - this might be the time to swap that Euro 500 engine into the 
car - Regina would like it better that way --- If not, another 603 engine seems to be the 
ticket -- at least you have a good head to match to a good block."

I bet Regina would like a BMW. :)


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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Donald Snook wrote:

Kaleb wrote:

"so you really think I will need to sleeve it?  If I have to replace the
piston and sleeve it, thats going to add quite a bit to the total.  I
might have to start investigating that wierd 603 I have"

You should have bought a BMW.


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Re: [MBZ] hey OK Don, what is that GPS you have?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The Iway also used Navteq maps.  This is a question for you maybe you 
will know, is there some sort of update for the Navteq maps that will 
work on any GPS?  The only thing really wrong with mine is the maps are 
a couple of years out of date, and I cant find an update that says iWay.


Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

As someone in the business, who works on the real "mercedes" of Navigation
systems that Mercedes actually uses, I say go for a Garmin.  They use high
quality Navteq maps, which are a critical part of a Navigation system's
ability to work properly.

Jaime


On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  

Was it a Garmin?  I cant remember.  The one I have had for several years is
a Lowrance Iway 500c, but the maps are starting to get a little outdated and
there is not update available for it.  The one that replaced it, the 600c is
also out of production and I guess Lowrance is getting out of the auto gps
business.  Its quite a shame.  I was looking at the stuff at best buy or
wherever, the Garmins, Tomtom etc, and the Lowrance is just the Mercedes of
GPS units, the rest seem just cheap in comparison.

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Re: [MBZ] License plate frames

[Bob Rentfro]

It, too, is law here in AZ...haven't heard of anyone getting the $135
ticket

Bob R

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> That lasted about a year in Texas, the cops used it as an excuse to pull
> over people, and the people were not happy.  The legislators learned that
> pretty quickly.
>
> --R
>
>
> WILTON wrote:
>
>> As of today, in NC, license plate frames that obscure the state name or
>> registration stickers are illegal.
>>
>> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Faulty W123 speedometer in 1983 300TD

[Jim Cathey]

Jim, is that a Yes or a No answer to my question?


I neither sold you that transmission, nor looked in
the crate when it got to your place.  Couldn't tell you.

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1975 Mercedes Benz - $1495 (back mountain)

[Frederick W Moir]

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1975 Mercedes Benz Model 230, 4 door sedan, 4 cyl., auto. 114,600 
miles. Stored in garage last 12 years. Body good, interior good, 
just needs a little TLC. Have all books and parts manual. This could 
be a beautiful show car! Old enough to be eligible for antique 
plates and insurance. Moving, must sell. I am asking 1495- obo Call 
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Re: [MBZ] Broken plastic front seat belt buckle on W123 300TD

[Jim Cathey]

Part of the plastic male fitting on my right front seat belt has broken
off.  The seat belt still works, but it's probably a safety issue so I 
want
to fix it.  Do I need to replace the entire seat belt assembly, 
including
the upholstered vinyl pillar covering for the reel??Otherwise, how 
would

I thread in a new belt or buckle?


Yes to the new belt (half) and reel, no to the pillar cover.
The buckle end fits through the hole on the cover, once you
remove the cover.

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[MBZ] 300TD Rear lift gate shock bolts

[Michael Esh]

I had to replace the rear hatch struts on my and wagon and had a very  
difficult time getting the bolts out of the forward fittings.  They  
are star bolts and I ended up having to drill them out and use an ez- 
out to remove them.  Do I have to get replacement bolts from a  
dealership?

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak

[Curt Raymond]

I don't remember seeing any springs, maybe thats part of the problem...

I'm kind of hoping Rusty or Dr. Fatty will chime in with such a thing they'd 
like to sell me. I've got the rest of an order pretty much ready to go (need to 
go check my filter stock first though.)

-Curt

Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:00:50 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID: <4b15a022.8060...@voyager.net>
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Curt Raymond wrote:
>
The leak appears to be between the pipe coming from the exhaust
manifold and the next pipe which dips down under the car. Theres a kind
of joint there,

If it has springs on the bolts, it's probably a moving joint with a beveled 
donut in the middle to seal the two pipes together as they move.

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Curt Raymond]

Arf inch drive? I didn't know they'd neck one down that far...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:20:34 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square
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Curt.
I have a 10mm. 'arfinch drive XZN socket that you can borrow.
Snap-on S6193
I'd send a picture, but the noise level is too high. I could send one off list?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Looking for a small country to rule.
Diesel preferred

At 04:31 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
>Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to 
>remove the axles from a 201 or 124?
>I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) 
>rather than sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...
>Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and 
>those look like a driver will work which is really strange because I 
>KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets 
>(pounded them on, don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally 
>in my last go-around with the diff my Indy did the replacement for 
>me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff 
>in my 190D needs replacement (which is more or less why I'm getting 
>the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.
>Very strange.
>-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Curt Raymond]

I tried a little with vicegrips when last I messed with it but didn't want to 
booger the heads. Maybe if I needed to try it again I'd buy a brand new pair of 
real vicegrip brand locking pliers...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:43:48 -0600
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square
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I found the socket at a independent FLAPS.  I am sure snap-on or the 
like can get them for a price.  On vw and on my 126, I also used 
vicegrips to break them loose.  The bolts on my 126 were rammed in 
with loctite.  They were really locked and st-born.


>Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to 
>remove the axles from a 201 or 124?
>I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) 
>rather than sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...
>
>Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and 
>those look like a driver will work which is really strange because I 
>KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets 
>(pounded them on, don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally 
>in my last go-around with the diff my Indy did the replacement for 
>me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff 
>in my 190D needs replacement (which is more or less why I'm getting 
>the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.
>
>Very strange.
>
>-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Kevin]

A local non-McParts auto parts store had the 10mm XZN I needed for the rear
suspension of the 201. It wasn't a socket, but this turned out to be an
advantage as I didn't have room for a socket on the top of it, and instead used
a gear wrench to tighten it down.

The 603 head used a larger one IIRC, and that one I dug up the mercedes part
number from some german tool site, then called Rusty who was able to get the
tool using the mercedes part number for a bit cheaper than the german tool
site was. This was several years ago (four? five? can't remember), so good luck
if you go this route. This tool accepted a 1/2 drive ratchet, which worked 
nicely with the gargantuan breaker bar I have for dealing with rusty jeeps. 

On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 01:31:01PM -0800, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to remove 
> the axles from a 201 or 124?
> I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) rather than 
> sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...
> 
> Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and those 
> look like a driver will work which is really strange because I KNOW my car 
> has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets (pounded them on, 
> don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally in my last go-around with 
> the diff my Indy did the replacement for me. I'm getting a parts car 
> (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff in my 190D needs replacement (which 
> is more or less why I'm getting the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.

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Re: [MBZ] Zeppelin over SFO

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

Interesting, I guess FAA rules about an armored bulkhead and locked flight deck 
don't apply to airships?


Probably don't apply to 14 seaters.
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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Donald Snook]

Randy wrote: "Does this mean you have decided you want to sell your BMW?"

No.  Just a little Mercedes v. BMW humor.


Donald H. Snook

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[MBZ] Driving sideways in Sweden

[Mitch Haley]

W123 and Volvo 740 content.
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Re: [MBZ] License plate frames

[Rich Thomas]

That lasted about a year in Texas, the cops used it as an excuse to pull 
over people, and the people were not happy.  The legislators learned 
that pretty quickly.


--R

WILTON wrote:

As of today, in NC, license plate frames that obscure the state name or 
registration stickers are illegal.

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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians, was Re: MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid

[WILTON]

Yes, the hills are a little more pronounced in the Raleigh/Durham area 
(Eastern edge of the Piedmont); hills here in Goldsboro are significantly 
less significant, though.  'Went through Durham on 147 on way to and from 
Charlotte few days ago.  I do go to Duke occasionally, but my Duke 
neurologist will see me in Greenville next time (Feb).

We'll get together for lunch sometime.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim C" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians,was Re: MB 240D Diesel 
Hydrogen hybrid



No kidding, you can see forever out there. :) I was going to and from
Durham so at least 147 has some dips.  And some low points in the
road, too.

On an unrelated note, I live right behind Duke Hospital; drop me a
line if you are up here for Duke or VA and want to grab lunch
sometime.

-Tim

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:25 PM, WILTON  wrote:

Yeah, VERY modest hills around here; I'm on the coastal plain.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Tim C" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:20 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians,was Re: MB 240D Diesel
Hydrogen hybrid


On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey  
wrote:


But are hybrids really being done 'right'? Most of
'em still seem to drive like regular cars, with a
motor that runs at varying RPM's and loads.


Late to the discussion, but for once I can answer a question.

The Ford and Toyota GE hybrids use CVTs, which are computer-controlled
variable transmissions. (I don't know about other makes.) Our Ford
Escape hybrid gas engine stayed around 1800 RPM on our Thanksgiving
trip, when it was running. (I was having fun with my new CarChip so I
have oodles of logs to play in. :) No matter how hard I jammed the
accelerator, I was never above 2000 RPM for more than 10s; the engine
would immediately start to back down, even on modest hills (we were
out Wilton's way so nothing big to play on).

Which brings me to my actual question: the engine on this thing is
getting whipped. My wife drives it daily <5 miles round-trip, so it
stays cold, and in the city. Because of the CVT I can't drive it
flat-out, and I don't drive it that much anyway. Mileage has dropped
about 10% since we got it in '07, most of that in the last 6-9 months
(since wife started 3/day trips to school). Ford dealer "tech" can't
find anything wrong, though that might say more about the dealer than
the vehicle.

Two questions:
1) Is there something I can do to avoid worsening carbon deposits?
Techron additives? Will a synthetic oil help?
2) Is there some way to clean existing deposits out? I don't DIY this
vehicle, and I'm not even sure what I'd ask a mechanic to do.

Thanks for any tips,
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[R A Bennell]

As I said, the bolt that I had to remove was not all that tight. However, with 
hardened sockets, they often crack
when a lot of pressure is applied - so who knows - maybe softer was better?

Randy

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Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Triple square


Doing that would anneal the driver to a dead soft condition, I'm VERY
surprised you didn't twist it to failure.


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R A Bennell wrote:
> If you get desperate, try heating a socket that almost fits to cherry red 
> with a torch and then tapping it onto
the
> bolt head while it is soft. I had a friend do that for me with a nice Snap On 
> socket about 40 years ago and I
still
> have the socket. It did not have to undo anything all that tight but it had 
> to fit in a spot that I was unable to
> reach with a normal socket. I was working on a Honda motorcyle engine and 
> there was one bolt I could not reach
with
> any of my normal sockets. It was 10MM and back then I had very little by way 
> of metric tools. We made a 10MM deep
> socket out of a 3/8 deep socket with some heat and a bolt with that head 
> clamped in a vice.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:31 PM
> To: Diesel List
> Subject: [MBZ] Triple square
>
>
> Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to remove 
> the axles from a 201 or 124?
> I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) rather than 
> sockets. Male vs female if you
> prefer...
>
> Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and those 
> look like a driver will work which is
> really strange because I KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I 
> broke 2 9mm sockets (pounded them on,
> don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally in my last go-around with 
> the diff my Indy did the replacement
for
> me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff in my 
> 190D needs replacement (which is more
or
> less why I'm getting the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.
>
> Very strange.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust leak

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

The leak appears to be between the pipe coming from the exhaust manifold and 
the next pipe which dips down under the car. Theres a kind of joint there,


If it has springs on the bolts, it's probably a moving joint with a beveled 
donut in the middle to seal the two pipes together as they move.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Mitch Haley]

John Robbins wrote:

The green thing from Finland is the one that's really turned up, and it 
was a green W123 wagon.


I was either thinking of that, or this, AnttI M's W115:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/Wahva115/C126W115.jpg

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[MBZ] License plate frames

[WILTON]

As of today, in NC, license plate frames that obscure the state name or 
registration stickers are illegal.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Peter T. Arnold]

Doing that would anneal the driver to a dead soft condition, I'm VERY 
surprised you didn't twist it to failure.



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R A Bennell wrote:

If you get desperate, try heating a socket that almost fits to cherry red with 
a torch and then tapping it onto the
bolt head while it is soft. I had a friend do that for me with a nice Snap On 
socket about 40 years ago and I still
have the socket. It did not have to undo anything all that tight but it had to 
fit in a spot that I was unable to
reach with a normal socket. I was working on a Honda motorcyle engine and there 
was one bolt I could not reach with
any of my normal sockets. It was 10MM and back then I had very little by way of 
metric tools. We made a 10MM deep
socket out of a 3/8 deep socket with some heat and a bolt with that head 
clamped in a vice.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:31 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Triple square


Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to remove the 
axles from a 201 or 124?
I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) rather than 
sockets. Male vs female if you
prefer...

Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and those look 
like a driver will work which is
really strange because I KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 
2 9mm sockets (pounded them on,
don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally in my last go-around with the 
diff my Indy did the replacement for
me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff in my 190D 
needs replacement (which is more or
less why I'm getting the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.

Very strange.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians, was Re: MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid

[Peter T. Arnold]

A huge technical difference between a 20+ year old diesel and a modern 
electronic controlled gasoline engine.  I doubt very much if you can 
"Carbon up" the combustion chamber of a modern well running gasoline engine.



--
Pete Arnold
2007 HHR
'95 F-250 P.S.D.
'54 Metropolitan {Hanger Queen}
Looking at used D/P

Member of Escapees &
National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club

Curt Raymond wrote:

I never thought about it before but the not-warming-up problem should be even 
worse with a hybrid because of the time spent driving on just electric...

Your wife is a great candidate for an electric car.

I wonder if they have a block heater for that engine? A pre-warmed engine would 
experience less of the issue although it would surely be present.

I'd say the only way to "fix" the issue would be to increase the oil change frequency, or rather analyze the oil and decide based on that, it'll be way less in mileage than whatever was recommended though. 
Then load it up and DRIVE it hard. Put some sandbags or something else heavy in it, make the engine work. Marshall said that revs made a difference but more important was load, hills help but barring that weight will do.


I've had some pretty impressive Italian tune ups because I tend to buy cars 
that are badly carboned up. In both my 190D and 240D at some point maybe 2-3 
months after purchase I'd be cruising down the highway and start to lose power 
just a bit, the POOF, big cloud of black smoke and better power (and easier 
cold starts) than before.
In my 190D one time my wife and I were going to a concert in western MA (in the 
"mountains" and laboring up a hill on the Mass Pike in heavy traffic in July 
heat (with a trunkload of luggage) it happened again. This was when I'd been daily 
driving that car for years...
So revs, load and temp all contribute to the Italian tune up, and I think you 
can make due without one if you can step up the others

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:20:06 -0500
From: Tim C 
Subject: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians,was Re:  MB 240D
Diesel Hydrogen hybrid
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
  

But are hybrids really being done 'right'? ?Most of
'em still seem to drive like regular cars, with a
motor that runs at varying RPM's and loads.



Late to the discussion, but for once I can answer a question.

The Ford and Toyota GE hybrids use CVTs, which are computer-controlled
variable transmissions. (I don't know about other makes.)  Our Ford
Escape hybrid gas engine stayed around 1800 RPM on our Thanksgiving
trip, when it was running.  (I was having fun with my new CarChip so I
have oodles of logs to play in. :)  No matter how hard I jammed the
accelerator, I was never above 2000 RPM for more than 10s; the engine
would immediately start to back down, even on modest hills (we were
out Wilton's way so nothing big to play on).

Which brings me to my actual question: the engine on this thing is
getting whipped.  My wife drives it daily <5 miles round-trip, so it
stays cold, and in the city.  Because of the CVT I can't drive it
flat-out, and I don't drive it that much anyway.  Mileage has dropped
about 10% since we got it in '07, most of that in the last 6-9 months
(since wife started 3/day trips to school).  Ford dealer "tech" can't
find anything wrong, though that might say more about the dealer than
the vehicle.

Two questions:
1) Is there something I can do to avoid worsening carbon deposits?
Techron additives?  Will a synthetic oil help?
2) Is there some way to clean existing deposits out?  I don't DIY this
vehicle, and I'm not even sure what I'd ask a mechanic to do.

Thanks for any tips,
-Tim


  
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Frederick W Moir]

Curt.
I have a 10mm. 'arfinch drive XZN socket that you can borrow.
Snap-on S6193
I'd send a picture, but the noise level is too high. I could send one off list?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Looking for a small country to rule.
Diesel preferred

At 04:31 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to 
remove the axles from a 201 or 124?
I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) 
rather than sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...
Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and 
those look like a driver will work which is really strange because I 
KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets 
(pounded them on, don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally 
in my last go-around with the diff my Indy did the replacement for 
me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff 
in my 190D needs replacement (which is more or less why I'm getting 
the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.

Very strange.
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Frederick W Moir]

Dwight, et al.
Could be!
The groat's worth is just to indicate it's worth less than $0.02.
Though, today if you had a genuine groat, (money not cereal) it would 
be worth quite a bit more than 2 cents.

TMI
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel Rocks!

At 04:01 PM 12/1/2009, you wrote:

Fred-are you saying this could be a groat rope?
Dwight



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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[Dieselhead]

I found the socket at a independent FLAPS.  I am sure snap-on or the 
like can get them for a price.  On vw and on my 126, I also used 
vicegrips to break them loose.  The bolts on my 126 were rammed in 
with loctite.  They were really locked and st-born.



Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to 
remove the axles from a 201 or 124?
I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) 
rather than sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...


Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and 
those look like a driver will work which is really strange because I 
KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets 
(pounded them on, don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally 
in my last go-around with the diff my Indy did the replacement for 
me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff 
in my 190D needs replacement (which is more or less why I'm getting 
the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.


Very strange.

-Curt



 
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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Curt Raymond]

I'd be perfectly happy with a 200hp 617, in a wagon with a tow hitch and a 
small teardrop trailer. Wife and I would love to go cross-country with a rig 
like that.

I suppose it wouldn't be terrible with a standard 617 even, just slower...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:03:48 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID: <4b1584b4.6070...@voyager.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Pretty sure they did a 617 at one point. Wasn't the powerhouse the newer 
> engines are but quite respectable...


What was that green thing with OM617 and intercooler on top of the valve cover, 
W114, W115? I don't think it was a W123.

I'd be perfectly happy with a 250hp OM604. Was there a 16v diesel back then, 
and 
was there a factory turbo version, or would I have to step up to the OM605?

Mitch.


  
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[MBZ] Exhaust leak

[Curt Raymond]

My I'm just full of on-topic questions today...
I'm putting together a parts order so I'm trying to think through every problem 
I've got on 2 different cars...

My '83 240D has an exhaust leak. The mufflers and pipes are all new and look 
fine. The leak appears to be between the pipe coming from the exhaust manifold 
and the next pipe which dips down under the car. Theres a kind of joint there, 
I don't know what to call it. Theres a little soot on the firewall and thats 
the area I'm hearing the leak from.
I wonder if theres a gasket in that joint which has gone bad and causing the 
leak or if its a gasketless joint and I should just take it apart, smear in 
muffler mender and shove it back together with new bolts. The old bolts are 
very rusty and no doubt will need to be cut off.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Triple square

[R A Bennell]

If you get desperate, try heating a socket that almost fits to cherry red with 
a torch and then tapping it onto the
bolt head while it is soft. I had a friend do that for me with a nice Snap On 
socket about 40 years ago and I still
have the socket. It did not have to undo anything all that tight but it had to 
fit in a spot that I was unable to
reach with a normal socket. I was working on a Honda motorcyle engine and there 
was one bolt I could not reach with
any of my normal sockets. It was 10MM and back then I had very little by way of 
metric tools. We made a 10MM deep
socket out of a 3/8 deep socket with some heat and a bolt with that head 
clamped in a vice.

Randy

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:31 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Triple square


Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to remove the 
axles from a 201 or 124?
I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) rather than 
sockets. Male vs female if you
prefer...

Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and those look 
like a driver will work which is
really strange because I KNOW my car has cap head bolts. I know because I broke 
2 9mm sockets (pounded them on,
don't do that) trying to get them off... Finally in my last go-around with the 
diff my Indy did the replacement for
me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) Saturday and the diff in my 190D 
needs replacement (which is more or
less why I'm getting the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.

Very strange.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Zeppelin over SFO

[Rich Thomas]

Flying into a building it might bounce off!

--R

Allan Streib wrote:

Interesting, I guess FAA rules about an armored bulkhead and locked flight deck 
don't apply to airships?

Allan
--
1983 300D

On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:25 -0500, relng...@aol.com wrote:
  

http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/Zeppelin/Zeppelin.html

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Zeppelin over SFO

[Allan Streib]

Interesting, I guess FAA rules about an armored bulkhead and locked flight deck 
don't apply to airships?

Allan
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:25 -0500, relng...@aol.com wrote:
> http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/Zeppelin/Zeppelin.html
> 
> RLE
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[MBZ] Triple square

[Curt Raymond]

Anybody got a source for the 10mm (I think its 10mm) XZN required to remove the 
axles from a 201 or 124?
I googled but I can can get is drivers (like screwdrivers I mean) rather than 
sockets. Male vs female if you prefer...

Actually I just looked at the 124 diff replacement on Peachparts and those look 
like a driver will work which is really strange because I KNOW my car has cap 
head bolts. I know because I broke 2 9mm sockets (pounded them on, don't do 
that) trying to get them off... Finally in my last go-around with the diff my 
Indy did the replacement for me. I'm getting a parts car (probably anyway) 
Saturday and the diff in my 190D needs replacement (which is more or less why 
I'm getting the car) and I'm gonna do it myself this time.

Very strange.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Lug bolts

[Rusty Cullens]

not the same

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- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:21 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Lug bolts



An odd question I've been pondering lately.

Are 201 lug bolts the same as 123 alloy wheel lug bolts?
Alloy lugs are longer than those for steel wheels right?

Thanks

-Curt



 
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[MBZ] Zeppelin over SFO

[RELNGSON]

http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/Zeppelin/Zeppelin.html

RLE
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[MBZ] Lug bolts

[Curt Raymond]

An odd question I've been pondering lately.

Are 201 lug bolts the same as 123 alloy wheel lug bolts?
Alloy lugs are longer than those for steel wheels right?

Thanks

-Curt



  
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[MBZ] SAAB fades

[RELNGSON]

Saab Automobile on Tuesday faced the threat of closure as the General 
Motors board met on Tuesday (1 December, 2009) to hammer out plans after a deal 
collapsed to sell the Swedish brand.
 Time is running out for Saab after Swedish luxury car maker Koenigsegg 
pulled out of bid talks last week, putting in doubt the future of the 
loss-making GM unit and analysts have said the most likely outcome is a 
closure, 
Reuters noted.
 "The reality is that to try to get someone in at this stage just looks not 
feasible," an auto analyst who requested anonymity told the news agency. 
"There is no further quality offer likely to pop up."
 According to the report, Saab and the Swedish government have said other 
investors have approached GM regarding Saab, but in light of the US car 
maker's vow to drop the brand by early 2010, there is very little time in which 
to forge a new deal.
 "It is clear that they (GM) have to find a solution as quickly as 
possible, without high costs and without creating a situation of new 
competition," 
said professor Christer Karlsson at Copenhagen Business School.
 "For instance you can't sell it to anybody who wants to sell Saab on the 
Chinese market because then it will compete with GM's own products, since the 
new Buick [LaCrosse] is more or less the same car as the new Saab."
 According to the news agency, Swedish government officials met with GM 
this week ahead of the board meeting, which was expected to last all of Tuesday 
[EST], to underline that it was ready to provide loan guarantees to a new 
owner though it has ruled out taking a stake in Saab.
 State secretary Joran Hagglund told Swedish news agency TT after the 
meeting with GM in Detroit that he remained hopeful that a closure of the 
60-year-old brand might be avoided.
 Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Corp (BAIC), which tied up with 
Koeningsegg in October, could still be among the possible contenders to take 
over 
Saab, which has not made a profit since 2001, Reuters added.
 The report noted that Merbanco Merchant Banking, based in Wyoming, has 
also said it remains interested in Saab while US financier Ira Rennert and his 
Renco Group had also expressed interest in pursuing a deal for Saab before 
GM struck a preliminary deal with Koenigsegg earlier this year.
 Meanwhile, Bloomberg News, citing two people familiar with the talks, said 
GM may sell parts of Saab to BAIC and shutter the brand.
 A sale of assets, including production machinery, was among GM's options, 
the sources said.
 Beijing Auto plans to "move fast" on Saab to help improve its technology, 
the automaker's president Wang Dazong said yesterday, according to 
Bloomberg.
 "It's very difficult to see a future for Saab," Stefan Bratzel, director 
of the Centre of Automotive at the University of Applied Sciences in Bergisch 
Gladbach, Germany.
 Beijing Auto "is one of the potential candidates because Chinese 
manufacturers are looking for a foothold in Europe and need the 
distribution network, 
the technology and the brand", he was quoted as saying.
 The Wall Street Journal has suggested that Saab might sell BAIC the 
tooling for the outgoing 9-5 model, which dates back to the 1980s 9000 model on 
a 
platform developed jointly with the Fiat Group.
 Saab recently showed off a fully redesigned 9-5 for the 2010 model year - 
the first full makeover for the model in years - but it now seems unlikely 
this new car will ever go into production.

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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians

[Curt Raymond]

Good point on tire pressure, I'd been running 40psi in the Ranger (sidewall max 
is 44) and getting just about 20mpg on the highway.
SWMBO noticed that Ford recommends 30psi and deflated the tires accordingly, on 
my trip to deer camp I got ~18mpg. Last Thursday I went to 35psi (just to see) 
and got back up around 20mpg on a 400 mile round trip.

Thats not really enough data to be conclusive but its nice when the data fits 
the theory...

35 is nice because the ride is noticably softer than at 40 and the mileage is 
the same. Need new tires on the Ranger soon and I want to be sure to get some 
that will hold that pressure...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:53:01 -0600
From: John Robbins 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID: <4b15822d.1080...@msstate.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Tim C wrote:
> Because of the CVT I can't drive it flat-out

Why not?  Just because it isn't at a high RPM doesn't mean you aren't 
cleaning it out.  You're still making power, which makes heat, which in 
theory is what cleans things out in the diesels at least.  As others 
have said modern gas cars don't really carbon up though.


> Will a synthetic oil help?


Did it have synthetic oil when you were getting higher MPG?  The oil 
manufacturers claim you get higher mileage with the good synthetics. 
Also, make sure the dealer is putting in the correct weight oil 
specified in the manual.  Newer cars are able to run on thinner oils, 
which increases fuel economy.  Maybe by only a few percent, but all 
these things add up.

Some other things...  Have you bought new tires?  Depending on the tire, 
you can have a vastly different rolling resistance.

Are they inflated to lower pressures than stock?  I've never had my car 
come back from a mechanic with a common tire pressure...

If there are underbody panels, are they still installed?  Those actually 
make quite a bit of difference at highway speeds.

Has any weight been added? ie, do you have more "stuff" in the car like 
a toolbox or something?

HTH!
John


  
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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[John Robbins]

Mitch Haley wrote:
What was that green thing with OM617 and intercooler on top of the valve 
cover, W114, W115? I don't think it was a W123.


I remember a W115 (I think) that had an intercooler instead of a hood. 
There was also a fellow here in the states that had a ducted intercooler 
on top of the valve cover.  I think that was a W126?


The green thing from Finland is the one that's really turned up, and it 
was a green W123 wagon.


I'd be perfectly happy with a 250hp OM604. Was there a 16v diesel back 
then, and was there a factory turbo version, or would I have to step up 
to the OM605?


The OM604 should be a 4-valve, 4 cylinder.  I have no idea if there was 
a stock turbo version or not.  There is a Finnish fellow that goes by 
"jeemuu" who has made 466HP () from an OM605!


John


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Re: [MBZ] support

[Curt Raymond]

Yeahbut I don't complain...

BTW, Kaleb, thanks for supporting this list and making it available for us, I 
really appreciate it!

And I buy parts from Kaleb, money in his pocket pays for the list.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:35:58 EST
From: relng...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] support
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Ahh the complaints of a non-supporter of a free service...
> 
What do you mean by "non-supporter?" I can't picture anyone as cheap as you 
sending money to Kleb for anything.

RLE


  
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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians

[Allan Streib]

On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:20 -0500, "Tim C"  wrote:

> Two questions:
> 1) Is there something I can do to avoid worsening carbon deposits?
> Techron additives?  Will a synthetic oil help?
> 2) Is there some way to clean existing deposits out?  I don't DIY this
> vehicle, and I'm not even sure what I'd ask a mechanic to do.

You're missing the point, it's the built-in carbon sequestration at work, it 
qualifies for additional carbon offset credits.

In all seriousness, do you have evidence of carbon deposits?  Or is this just 
speculation?  New engines, especially gasoline engines, should not really be 
prone to this.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[John Robbins]

Curt Raymond wrote:

Pretty sure they did a 617 at one point. Wasn't the powerhouse the
newer engines are but quite respectable...


They did indeed  There's only one I know about, and it had a big 
turbo with a supercharger as well.  The only thing anybody in the states 
knows about it comes from a few pictures, and a burnout video in a 
parking lot.  Unfortunately, there are no dyno graphs we know about. 
The biggest problem though, is that they replaced the engine with an 
OM606 before they actually drove the 617 anywhere.  :(


John

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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians

[Mitch Haley]

John Robbins wrote:


Are they inflated to lower pressures than stock?  I've never had my car 
come back from a mechanic with a common tire pressure...


When I got my General Altimax, my coasting ability decreased, and I lost at 
least 2mpg. I blew them up to 45psi and got back most of the loss, I was 
surprised that the new tires at 45 were no better than the old ones at 35.


If the Ford had a tire change about time the mpg went down, and you went away 
from the low rolling resistance OEM tires in favor of something with grip...



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

Pretty sure they did a 617 at one point. Wasn't the powerhouse the newer 
engines are but quite respectable...



What was that green thing with OM617 and intercooler on top of the valve cover, 
W114, W115? I don't think it was a W123.


I'd be perfectly happy with a 250hp OM604. Was there a 16v diesel back then, and 
was there a factory turbo version, or would I have to step up to the OM605?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Fred-are you saying this could be a groat rope?
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

Kaleb.
This may get a bit wordy.
The engine in question is worn with x miles on it and who knows what 
kind of previous care.
The minimum necessary work to return it to service is:- one used 
piston, no more worn than the 5 remaining and of the same weight (mass?).
Six connecting rods true and balanced, plus gaskets etc.
Six rods because the remaining ones are flawed.
Pistons matched by weight.
We never scratch honed cylinders, they seat slower but tighter when 
put into a smooth bore.
The cylinder bores are worn out of spec. They were however running 
well and, absent the bent rod issue, would have continued to do so 
for the remainder of the engines useful life.
It is a gamble. Yours to choose. Being the type who likes to return 
things to Mfg. spec. I wouldn't do it,  but you may well get away with it.
The short block from your spare engine would bolt in, after 
inspection. Nicht wahr?
My groats worth.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


At 09:07 AM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
>you wouldnt what?  Return the engine to service?
>
>Frederick W Moir wrote:
>>Kaleb, et al.
>>The piston is no longer "round". A lot of pistons are "Cam ground"/


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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians

[John Robbins]

Tim C wrote:

Because of the CVT I can't drive it flat-out


Why not?  Just because it isn't at a high RPM doesn't mean you aren't 
cleaning it out.  You're still making power, which makes heat, which in 
theory is what cleans things out in the diesels at least.  As others 
have said modern gas cars don't really carbon up though.




Will a synthetic oil help?



Did it have synthetic oil when you were getting higher MPG?  The oil 
manufacturers claim you get higher mileage with the good synthetics. 
Also, make sure the dealer is putting in the correct weight oil 
specified in the manual.  Newer cars are able to run on thinner oils, 
which increases fuel economy.  Maybe by only a few percent, but all 
these things add up.


Some other things...  Have you bought new tires?  Depending on the tire, 
you can have a vastly different rolling resistance.


Are they inflated to lower pressures than stock?  I've never had my car 
come back from a mechanic with a common tire pressure...


If there are underbody panels, are they still installed?  Those actually 
make quite a bit of difference at highway speeds.


Has any weight been added? ie, do you have more "stuff" in the car like 
a toolbox or something?


HTH!
John

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[MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians, was Re: MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid

[Curt Raymond]

I never thought about it before but the not-warming-up problem should be even 
worse with a hybrid because of the time spent driving on just electric...

Your wife is a great candidate for an electric car.

I wonder if they have a block heater for that engine? A pre-warmed engine would 
experience less of the issue although it would surely be present.

I'd say the only way to "fix" the issue would be to increase the oil change 
frequency, or rather analyze the oil and decide based on that, it'll be way 
less in mileage than whatever was recommended though. 
Then load it up and DRIVE it hard. Put some sandbags or something else heavy in 
it, make the engine work. Marshall said that revs made a difference but more 
important was load, hills help but barring that weight will do.

I've had some pretty impressive Italian tune ups because I tend to buy cars 
that are badly carboned up. In both my 190D and 240D at some point maybe 2-3 
months after purchase I'd be cruising down the highway and start to lose power 
just a bit, the POOF, big cloud of black smoke and better power (and easier 
cold starts) than before.
In my 190D one time my wife and I were going to a concert in western MA (in the 
"mountains" and laboring up a hill on the Mass Pike in heavy traffic in July 
heat (with a trunkload of luggage) it happened again. This was when I'd been 
daily driving that car for years...
So revs, load and temp all contribute to the Italian tune up, and I think you 
can make due without one if you can step up the others

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:20:06 -0500
From: Tim C 
Subject: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians,    was Re:  MB 240D
    Diesel     Hydrogen hybrid
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> But are hybrids really being done 'right'? ?Most of
> 'em still seem to drive like regular cars, with a
> motor that runs at varying RPM's and loads.

Late to the discussion, but for once I can answer a question.

The Ford and Toyota GE hybrids use CVTs, which are computer-controlled
variable transmissions. (I don't know about other makes.)  Our Ford
Escape hybrid gas engine stayed around 1800 RPM on our Thanksgiving
trip, when it was running.  (I was having fun with my new CarChip so I
have oodles of logs to play in. :)  No matter how hard I jammed the
accelerator, I was never above 2000 RPM for more than 10s; the engine
would immediately start to back down, even on modest hills (we were
out Wilton's way so nothing big to play on).

Which brings me to my actual question: the engine on this thing is
getting whipped.  My wife drives it daily <5 miles round-trip, so it
stays cold, and in the city.  Because of the CVT I can't drive it
flat-out, and I don't drive it that much anyway.  Mileage has dropped
about 10% since we got it in '07, most of that in the last 6-9 months
(since wife started 3/day trips to school).  Ford dealer "tech" can't
find anything wrong, though that might say more about the dealer than
the vehicle.

Two questions:
1) Is there something I can do to avoid worsening carbon deposits?
Techron additives?  Will a synthetic oil help?
2) Is there some way to clean existing deposits out?  I don't DIY this
vehicle, and I'm not even sure what I'd ask a mechanic to do.

Thanks for any tips,
-Tim


  
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb x 3

[Gary Hurst]

i'd ban this guy

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:29 PM,  wrote:

> > ...I got 3 copies
> >
> > --R..
> >
> There you have it.
>
> Fix it.
>
> RLE
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians, was Re: MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid

[Tim C]

No kidding, you can see forever out there. :) I was going to and from
Durham so at least 147 has some dips.  And some low points in the
road, too.

On an unrelated note, I live right behind Duke Hospital; drop me a
line if you are up here for Duke or VA and want to grab lunch
sometime.

-Tim

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:25 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> Yeah, VERY modest hills around here; I'm on the coastal plain.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Tim C" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:20 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians,was Re: MB 240D Diesel
> Hydrogen hybrid
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>>
>> But are hybrids really being done 'right'? Most of
>> 'em still seem to drive like regular cars, with a
>> motor that runs at varying RPM's and loads.
>
> Late to the discussion, but for once I can answer a question.
>
> The Ford and Toyota GE hybrids use CVTs, which are computer-controlled
> variable transmissions. (I don't know about other makes.)  Our Ford
> Escape hybrid gas engine stayed around 1800 RPM on our Thanksgiving
> trip, when it was running.  (I was having fun with my new CarChip so I
> have oodles of logs to play in. :)  No matter how hard I jammed the
> accelerator, I was never above 2000 RPM for more than 10s; the engine
> would immediately start to back down, even on modest hills (we were
> out Wilton's way so nothing big to play on).
>
> Which brings me to my actual question: the engine on this thing is
> getting whipped.  My wife drives it daily <5 miles round-trip, so it
> stays cold, and in the city.  Because of the CVT I can't drive it
> flat-out, and I don't drive it that much anyway.  Mileage has dropped
> about 10% since we got it in '07, most of that in the last 6-9 months
> (since wife started 3/day trips to school).  Ford dealer "tech" can't
> find anything wrong, though that might say more about the dealer than
> the vehicle.
>
> Two questions:
> 1) Is there something I can do to avoid worsening carbon deposits?
> Techron additives?  Will a synthetic oil help?
> 2) Is there some way to clean existing deposits out?  I don't DIY this
> vehicle, and I'm not even sure what I'd ask a mechanic to do.
>
> Thanks for any tips,
> -Tim
>
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Re: [MBZ] support

[RELNGSON]

> Ahh the complaints of a non-supporter of a free service...
> 
What do you mean by "non-supporter?" I can't picture anyone as cheap as you 
sending money to Kleb for anything.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[Curt Raymond]

Pretty sure they did a 617 at one point. Wasn't the powerhouse the newer 
engines are but quite respectable...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:16:29 -0600
From: John Robbins 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Curt Raymond wrote:
> Put a 617 in it with the crazy Finn tweaks and be done with it...

All their crazy tweaks are done on OM60x engines though.  Now it is 
mostly the 4-valve OM605 and OM606.

John


  
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Re: [MBZ] I got me a bent rod

[John Robbins]

Frederick W Moir wrote:

Six rods because the remaining ones are flawed.


Depending on what you're wanting to get out of the engine... and how 
cheap you are, you could get another bad rodbender engine for cheap, and 
take one of the good rods/pistons out of it.  You'll have the older 
style rod so they'll be in the same weight class as the other rods... 
etc.  If you want to get 400k out of the motor you can drop all the 
money on it, but if you're just looking to get 100-150k out of it



Mercedes has specs on what tolerance you can have on the piston and rod 
weights.  Just make sure you're within those specs and be done with it! :)


That's just me and my cheap-ass self though ;)

BTW, I'm not always a proponent of doing hack job stuff like this... 
just ask Rusty or my bank. ;)


*Flame suit on*
John

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Re: [MBZ] Kleb x 3

[RELNGSON]

> ...I got 3 copies
> 
> --R..
> 
There you have it.

Fix it.

RLE
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians, was Re: MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid

[WILTON]

Yeah, VERY modest hills around here; I'm on the coastal plain.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim C" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:20 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians,was Re: MB 240D Diesel 
Hydrogen hybrid



On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

But are hybrids really being done 'right'? Most of
'em still seem to drive like regular cars, with a
motor that runs at varying RPM's and loads.


Late to the discussion, but for once I can answer a question.

The Ford and Toyota GE hybrids use CVTs, which are computer-controlled
variable transmissions. (I don't know about other makes.)  Our Ford
Escape hybrid gas engine stayed around 1800 RPM on our Thanksgiving
trip, when it was running.  (I was having fun with my new CarChip so I
have oodles of logs to play in. :)  No matter how hard I jammed the
accelerator, I was never above 2000 RPM for more than 10s; the engine
would immediately start to back down, even on modest hills (we were
out Wilton's way so nothing big to play on).

Which brings me to my actual question: the engine on this thing is
getting whipped.  My wife drives it daily <5 miles round-trip, so it
stays cold, and in the city.  Because of the CVT I can't drive it
flat-out, and I don't drive it that much anyway.  Mileage has dropped
about 10% since we got it in '07, most of that in the last 6-9 months
(since wife started 3/day trips to school).  Ford dealer "tech" can't
find anything wrong, though that might say more about the dealer than
the vehicle.

Two questions:
1) Is there something I can do to avoid worsening carbon deposits?
Techron additives?  Will a synthetic oil help?
2) Is there some way to clean existing deposits out?  I don't DIY this
vehicle, and I'm not even sure what I'd ask a mechanic to do.

Thanks for any tips,
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians, was Re: MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid

[Tim C]

It's been 10% down for a -long- time.  When I was driving it regularly
(almost 2 years ago now) I consistently got 30-32.  Over the 10 tanks
before our trip (just looking at the chart) we've been closer to 26.
If I am driving I can get it up to 28 over a tank or three, but I
don't drive it except on long trips.

That's 5 miles round trip, she parks for an hour or two after 2.5
miles.  It warms up, but just barely, if I drive a similar path, and
will only go into EV mode at the last third or so of the trip (has to
break 145F).  I'm sure the engine is running in its happy place, but I
can't dismiss that it is behaving differently than in the past, and
has been for about as long as I can attribute it to normal variance
without major marital discord.

If carbon is off the table, then what else can I have checked?  The
behavior is so similar to what I had on the 300D that it just seemed
like a match, I suppose it's good that it isn't a concern anymore.
FEH is around 91K, based on my interactions with the "tech" I think
I'll have to point him around a bit, but I can't find a good indy who
has worked on the hybrids. :(

I suppose I can just get him to look at random stuff, charge me the
diagnostic fee; then I'm clear at home, which fundamentally is the
root of my concern, but I'd rather him do -something- if there's
anything useful to do.

Thanks for any hints,
-Tim

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM,   wrote:
> And the problem is?
>
> 10% fuel mileage is about 3mpg on that car, well within normal distribution 
> of the data collecting errors.
>
> 5 miles is more than enough to warm it up.
>
> At about 1800 rpm, the engine is probably in it's "Sweet Spot" as designed to 
> maximize fuel mileage.
>
> Modern cars do not "carbon up", change oil at mfg's time table and drive it.
>
> I'm betting it's not broke, don't fix it.
>
>
> --
>
> Peter Arnold
>
> Windsor, CT
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim C" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 2:20:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [MBZ] Avoiding carbon for non-Italians, was Re: MB 240D Diesel 
> Hydrogen hybrid
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>> But are hybrids really being done 'right'? Most of
>> 'em still seem to drive like regular cars, with a
>> motor that runs at varying RPM's and loads.
>
> Late to the discussion, but for once I can answer a question.
>
> The Ford and Toyota GE hybrids use CVTs, which are computer-controlled
> variable transmissions. (I don't know about other makes.) Our Ford
> Escape hybrid gas engine stayed around 1800 RPM on our Thanksgiving
> trip, when it was running. (I was having fun with my new CarChip so I
> have oodles of logs to play in. :) No matter how hard I jammed the
> accelerator, I was never above 2000 RPM for more than 10s; the engine
> would immediately start to back down, even on modest hills (we were
> out Wilton's way so nothing big to play on).
>
> Which brings me to my actual question: the engine on this thing is
> getting whipped. My wife drives it daily <5 miles round-trip, so it
> stays cold, and in the city. Because of the CVT I can't drive it
> flat-out, and I don't drive it that much anyway. Mileage has dropped
> about 10% since we got it in '07, most of that in the last 6-9 months
> (since wife started 3/day trips to school). Ford dealer "tech" can't
> find anything wrong, though that might say more about the dealer than
> the vehicle.
>
> Two questions:
> 1) Is there something I can do to avoid worsening carbon deposits?
> Techron additives? Will a synthetic oil help?
> 2) Is there some way to clean existing deposits out? I don't DIY this
> vehicle, and I'm not even sure what I'd ask a mechanic to do.
>
> Thanks for any tips,
> -Tim
>
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[MBZ] Broken plastic front seat belt buckle on W123 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

Part of the plastic male fitting on my right front seat belt has broken
off.  The seat belt still works, but it's probably a safety issue so I want
to fix it.  Do I need to replace the entire seat belt assembly, including
the upholstered vinyl pillar covering for the reel??Otherwise, how would
I thread in a new belt or buckle?

Andrew
1985 300TD (blue interior)
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