Re: [MBZ] Steering box replacment

2010-02-10 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Peter,

I may be doing the same job in the future - appreciate any insights you
gain doing this job.

-Max 

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Subject: [MBZ] Steering box replacment


I'm getting ready to change the steering box, drag link, and the other
tie rod on my 87 300D.  Anybody changed a steering box on one of these?
Any gotcha's in there I need to watch out for?

I'm hoping to get this done in one evening -- driving the 72 280 SE 4.5
is gonna bankrupt me!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] NEW EURO HEADLIGHTS - THANKS RUSTY

2010-02-10 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Well then I've been ripped - I didn't get any wiring!

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] NEW EURO HEADLIGHTS - THANKS RUSTY

OK - I had to look it up - he did say that they come with the bulbs and
wiring --


W123 Bosch European Headlight Assembly $225.00
W124 Bosch European Headlight Assemby $205.00
W126 Sedan Bosch European Headlight Assembly $340.00
W126 Coupe Bosch European Headlight Assembly $300.00
W201 Bosch European Headlight Assembly $215.00 These Assemblies include
all bulbs, connectors and wiring.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com
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 I will keep the sale going this whole month, but quantities are
limited.
 Call now!


 Rusty Cullens


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[MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html


This thread is useless without pictures.
How far from Wilton's house is it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, drum brakes

2010-02-10 Thread Allan Streib
I have not been following this thread, but...

In a truck often there is a load-sensitive proportioning valve for the
rear brakes.  Meaning, if there is a lot of weight in the back the valve
opens and more brake pressure is applied to the rear brakes.  If the
valve got stuck open this could lead to rear brake lockup under lightly
loaded conditions.

Allan

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:36 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 I saw no signs at all of leaking.  Do you know if the ABS in those
 things is 4 wheel or just rear?  Know how to test the system to figure
 out why my ABS light is on?

 Donald Snook wrote:
  Kaleb wrote: Anybody know anything about drum brakes?  The drums on
  the back of my suburban were real grabby, you very lightly touch the
  pedal and they grab.  I adjusted them out to where I do not think
  they were doing anything at all, I have noticed they have now self
  adjusted back to what is probably correct, but grab real bad.
 
  Are you certain that the wheel cylinders are not leaking?  That will
  cause them to grab. It doesn't take much and those things are famous
  for leaking.
 
  Donald H. Snook
 
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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas
He could be here in 3 or 4 hours.  Even without pics the word picture is 
extremely compelling.  Use your mind's eye!


--R

Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html


This thread is useless without pictures.
How far from Wilton's house is it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread WILTON
'Could probably get there in 3 or 4 hours, but I don't think I wanta be that 
close to it.  ;)


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for



Rich Thomas wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html


This thread is useless without pictures.
How far from Wilton's house is it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Connector

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas
So what would that thing be called on the schematic?  Looking at the 
schematics and the list of components it doesn't leap out at me.


--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

Any specs on the connector, like which hole is what?


It's on the car's schematic, usually found in the ETM.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Rich Thomas wrote:

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html

 This thread is useless without pictures.


Somebody local to the guy PLEASE call him and get pix!  Even cell
phone ones would do.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread LarryT
You'd be the envy of the MB list!  BTW, I used to live in Summerville - 
unfortunately there must be someone there now willing to build such a 
machine.


LarryT

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http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html

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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas

Come on, putcho pants on da ground, hat turn sideways, and come on down!

--R

WILTON wrote:
'Could probably get there in 3 or 4 hours, but I don't think I wanta 
be that close to it.  ;)


Wilton

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Rich Thomas wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html


This thread is useless without pictures.
How far from Wilton's house is it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Hi Randy,

Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26 in the back yard
and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter of
all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5 days.


We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)

This is a very big deal for D.C.

Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
great!

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

 How was the storm in your area on the weekend?

 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Connector

2010-02-10 Thread Jim Cathey
So what would that thing be called on the schematic?  Looking at the 
schematics and the list of components it doesn't leap out at me.


Diagnostic connector?  Follow the tach signal, it's usually easy
to find the tachometer on the schematic.

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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Note: I might have a problem with SERIOUS inquiries only!

How could anyone keep a straight face?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Come on, putcho pants on da ground, hat turn sideways, and come on down!

 --R


 WILTON wrote:

 'Could probably get there in 3 or 4 hours, but I don't think I wanta be
 that close to it.  ;)

 Wilton

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for


  Rich Thomas wrote:

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html


 This thread is useless without pictures.
 How far from Wilton's house is it?

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Snook's Caddy was Re: One down and one to go

2010-02-10 Thread Donald Snook
Andrew wrote:  OMG what a disaster.

You know what is interesting is all of the predictions of dire consequences and 
total expensive failures for this car are nearly identical to the predictions 
for expensive repairs and total failure of the BMW I just sold.  A lot of folks 
claimed that the 7 series I purchased a while back would have horrible 
reliability, some terribly expensive repair would occur, and I would throw good 
money into it and it would be a terrible car.

The reality is this:  The radiator started leaking within a week of my purchase 
(it was the original). I replaced it.  It cost me about $200.  The key lock 
cylinder housing mechanism broke and I had to get that fixed.  It cost less 
than $300.  I drove the car almost 9,000 miles and was paid 58.5 cents (50.5 
since January) per mile for work travel (which amounted to about half the 
miles).  I got between 23-25 mpg on these trips.  I changed the oil 3 times.  I 
only had to pay for 1 of these oil changes.  I had about $3200 in the car and 
sold it for $4800.

So, for me, the predictions of awful consequences for this current car don't 
really scare me (although I am knocking on wood right now). So, I bet I will be 
okay.  I can drive this car for next to nothing and do minor maintenance and 
cosmetic issues, and turn around and sell it for $1000 profit.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT, drum brakes

2010-02-10 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: I saw no signs at all of leaking.  Do you know if the ABS in those
things is 4 wheel or just rear?  Know how to test the system to figure
out why my ABS light is on?

AH HA!  That is important information. I either didn't know the ABS light was 
on or I forgot about it.  That could be causing the grabbing.  Did you just put 
different size tires on it than it had before?  If so, then that is probably 
the problem because the ABS was calibrated to the previous tire size.  If you 
didn't change the tire size, then it is probably a wheel speed sensor that is 
out of whack and causing the grabbing.  I don't know exactly how to check that, 
but I know somebody who does.  I'll call them today.

What year is the truck again?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook's Caddy was Re: One down and one to go

2010-02-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 all of the predictions of dire consequences and total expensive failures for 
 this car
are nearly identical to the predictions for expensive repairs and total 
failure of the
BMW I just sold.

I think you've just been lucky in that you haven't had any electrical
problems, which are the real killer on luxury cars since about the
early '90s.  A circuit board for everything from seat memory to side
markers, and every one of them just waiting to mysteriously fail and
force you to buy a new one from the dealer.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread LWB250
We've been getting all of this on it's way to you...

However, this last storm that is now pounding you never materialized to the 
level they predicted.  We got maybe 3 yesterday out of the predicted 6-8, 
and it barely caused a fuss for most people.

A lot of the rural school districts are shut down because of the blowing and 
drifting, but major roads are clear and open.

A secondary point for fun:

I have a snowblower attachment for my tractor, which I have yet to mount for he 
season, because it's such a PITA to put on and take off.  I decided I would 
leave it off, since if I put it on, it wouldn't snow.

I guess I sort of lost that battle.  If I put it on now, we'll be snow-less for 
the rest of the winter, I'll bet

Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:53 AM
 Hi Randy,
 
 Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
 
 Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had 
 26 in the back yard
 and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday
 and Tuesday.  :)
 
 We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux
 that started last
 night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
 winds, and another foot to
 accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should
 be  so lucky!  I've
 lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND
 coldest winter of
 all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a
 snowstorm like this, but
 temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over
 the next 5 days.
 
 
 We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with
 accumulation:
 
 Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
 Tuesday, Feb. 2:    4
 Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
 Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)
 
 This is a very big deal for D.C.
 
 Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last
 night and it handled
 great!
 
 No mas!
 
 Andrew
 snow covered 1985 300TD
 
 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
 wrote:
 
  How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
 
  Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] Snook's Caddy was Re: One down and one to go

2010-02-10 Thread LWB250
Donald,

It's like my Crown Vic - when the company bought it and I started researching 
the car in depth I found all sorts of ugly things, like what it cost to 
repair/replace the load leveling system, tranny, etc.

The heck with it.  I have driven it for nearly two years and have not had a 
problem with it to-date, nor do I expect any.

Certainly there are high priced items on the car that could fail, but I'm not 
going to worry about it every mile I drive it.

FWIW, I like the newer Cadillacs with the real angular look.  I'm not sure 
they suit my tastes enough that I would buy one, but they are nice looking.

Dan



--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's Caddy was Re: One down and one to go
 To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 11:14 AM
 Andrew wrote:  OMG what a
 disaster.
 
 You know what is interesting is all of the predictions of
 dire consequences and total expensive failures for this car
 are nearly identical to the predictions for expensive
 repairs and total failure of the BMW I just sold.  A
 lot of folks claimed that the 7 series I purchased a while
 back would have horrible reliability, some terribly
 expensive repair would occur, and I would throw good money
 into it and it would be a terrible car.
 
 The reality is this:  The radiator started leaking
 within a week of my purchase (it was the original). I
 replaced it.  It cost me about $200.  The key lock
 cylinder housing mechanism broke and I had to get that
 fixed.  It cost less than $300.  I drove the car
 almost 9,000 miles and was paid 58.5 cents (50.5 since
 January) per mile for work travel (which amounted to about
 half the miles).  I got between 23-25 mpg on these
 trips.  I changed the oil 3 times.  I only had to
 pay for 1 of these oil changes.  I had about $3200 in
 the car and sold it for $4800.
 
 So, for me, the predictions of awful consequences for this
 current car don't really scare me (although I am knocking on
 wood right now). So, I bet I will be okay.  I can drive
 this car for next to nothing and do minor maintenance and
 cosmetic issues, and turn around and sell it for $1000
 profit.
 
 
 Donald H. Snook
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Anthony Galioto
THIS GLOBAL WARMING IS TERRIBLE !!!


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We've been getting all of this on it's way to you...

 However, this last storm that is now pounding you never materialized to the
 level they predicted.  We got maybe 3 yesterday out of the predicted 6-8,
 and it barely caused a fuss for most people.

 A lot of the rural school districts are shut down because of the blowing
 and drifting, but major roads are clear and open.

 A secondary point for fun:

 I have a snowblower attachment for my tractor, which I have yet to mount
 for he season, because it's such a PITA to put on and take off.  I decided I
 would leave it off, since if I put it on, it wouldn't snow.

 I guess I sort of lost that battle.  If I put it on now, we'll be snow-less
 for the rest of the winter, I'll bet

 Dan


 --- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:53 AM
  Hi Randy,
 
  Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
 
  Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had
  26 in the back yard
  and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday
  and Tuesday.  :)
 
  We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux
  that started last
  night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
  winds, and another foot to
  accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should
  be  so lucky!  I've
  lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND
  coldest winter of
  all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a
  snowstorm like this, but
  temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over
  the next 5 days.
 
 
  We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with
  accumulation:
 
  Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
  Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
  Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
  Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)
 
  This is a very big deal for D.C.
 
  Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last
  night and it handled
  great!
 
  No mas!
 
  Andrew
  snow covered 1985 300TD
 
  On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
  wrote:
 
   How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
  
   Randy
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT, drum brakes

2010-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah right, my library doesn't have that...

Anyway I took the Ranger to work today and STOMPED on the brakes a bunch of 
time. Grabbiness is solved. I think the whole problem is how my wife drives. 
She uses the brakes lightly frequently. I suspect when she's driving the rear 
brakes rarely do anything. I brake less frequently and harder so all the brakes 
get used.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:18:23 -0500
From: Tim C bb...@crone.us
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, drum brakes
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Thank your local librarian.

I assume that this is in fact a general TSB, I just pulled the 2003
one for a 3.0FI gas.

If Kaleb cans PDFs I'll load it on my server and send a link.

-Tim

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

 Rick,

 Do you have access to the actual TSB? Mine is a 2003, looks like thats for
 a '96, wonder if its the same?

 I look on here http://www.carcomplaints.com/ to see if there is a TSB
 related to whatever problem I have found, and then I go to the local library
 and use their AllData link to look it up and print it out if need be.

 Rick


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
No longer the politically correct term. Now it is climate change since they 
cannot really prove the warming theory.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Anthony Galioto
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


THIS GLOBAL WARMING IS TERRIBLE !!!


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We've been getting all of this on it's way to you...

 However, this last storm that is now pounding you never materialized to the
 level they predicted.  We got maybe 3 yesterday out of the predicted 6-8,
 and it barely caused a fuss for most people.

 A lot of the rural school districts are shut down because of the blowing
 and drifting, but major roads are clear and open.

 A secondary point for fun:

 I have a snowblower attachment for my tractor, which I have yet to mount
 for he season, because it's such a PITA to put on and take off.  I decided I
 would leave it off, since if I put it on, it wouldn't snow.

 I guess I sort of lost that battle.  If I put it on now, we'll be snow-less
 for the rest of the winter, I'll bet

 Dan


 --- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:53 AM
  Hi Randy,
 
  Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
 
  Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had
  26 in the back yard
  and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday
  and Tuesday.  :)
 
  We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux
  that started last
  night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
  winds, and another foot to
  accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should
  be  so lucky!  I've
  lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND
  coldest winter of
  all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a
  snowstorm like this, but
  temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over
  the next 5 days.
 
 
  We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with
  accumulation:
 
  Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
  Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
  Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
  Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)
 
  This is a very big deal for D.C.
 
  Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last
  night and it handled
  great!
 
  No mas!
 
  Andrew
  snow covered 1985 300TD
 
  On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
  wrote:
 
   How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
  
   Randy
  


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here yet. 
That is ok with me. I hope we don't
get a whole lot more.

I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours are. 
We will likely have at least some
snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.

How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or some 
other source of heat?

I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul it 
out and make sure it will still run.
I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go with 
either diesel or propane. It is only
7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our gas 
furnace and the microwave etc if we
swap stuff back and forth.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Hi Randy,

Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26 in the back yard
and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter of
all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5 days.


We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)

This is a very big deal for D.C.

Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
great!

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

 How was the storm in your area on the weekend?

 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Snook's Caddy was Re: One down and one to go

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
I agree. There really is no point in worrying about things like this. All 
modern vehicles have issues that can be
expensive to fix. A Neon or whatever they now call it can be expensive to fix 
if the wrong things go bad. My b in l
is a mechanic and my younger son is an apprentice. They tell me the horror 
stories of trying to keep some of these
things running. People are hard on cars and sometimes they have to pay the 
price.

Most of us are not prepared to drive a mid 60's Impala so that we can have a 
simple car. There are not enough of
the amenities we have come to expect.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Donald Snook
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:14 AM
To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's Caddy was Re: One down and one to go


Andrew wrote:  OMG what a disaster.

You know what is interesting is all of the predictions of dire consequences and 
total expensive failures for this
car are nearly identical to the predictions for expensive repairs and total 
failure of the BMW I just sold.  A lot
of folks claimed that the 7 series I purchased a while back would have horrible 
reliability, some terribly
expensive repair would occur, and I would throw good money into it and it would 
be a terrible car.

The reality is this:  The radiator started leaking within a week of my purchase 
(it was the original). I replaced
it.  It cost me about $200.  The key lock cylinder housing mechanism broke and 
I had to get that fixed.  It cost
less than $300.  I drove the car almost 9,000 miles and was paid 58.5 cents 
(50.5 since January) per mile for work
travel (which amounted to about half the miles).  I got between 23-25 mpg on 
these trips.  I changed the oil 3
times.  I only had to pay for 1 of these oil changes.  I had about $3200 in the 
car and sold it for $4800.

So, for me, the predictions of awful consequences for this current car don't 
really scare me (although I am
knocking on wood right now). So, I bet I will be okay.  I can drive this car 
for next to nothing and do minor
maintenance and cosmetic issues, and turn around and sell it for $1000 profit.


Donald H. Snook



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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
Gee, I wonder if I could do that with my 300D? John Deere Green! Think a brush 
will do or should we splurge and get
a roller?

Randy

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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:07 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html

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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Just make sure you get the paint a JD dealer's so it is genuwine.
Then a bumper sticker-my other car is a tractor. 


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

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On Behalf Of R A Bennell
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

Gee, I wonder if I could do that with my 300D? John Deere Green! Think a
brush will do or should we splurge and get
a roller?

Randy

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:07 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html

--R



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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas

Bunch of rattle cans should do it.  Dollar store stuff is fine.

--R

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Just make sure you get the paint a JD dealer's so it is genuwine.
Then a bumper sticker-my other car is a tractor. 



Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.

Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of R A Bennell
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

Gee, I wonder if I could do that with my 300D? John Deere Green! Think a
brush will do or should we splurge and get
a roller?

Randy

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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:07 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html

--R



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Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

2010-02-10 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Maybe for a crown vic but not a 300D

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

Bunch of rattle cans should do it.  Dollar store stuff is fine.

--R

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
 Just make sure you get the paint a JD dealer's so it is genuwine.
 Then a bumper sticker-my other car is a tractor. 


 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
 Wickford, RI

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of R A Bennell
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:35 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for

 Gee, I wonder if I could do that with my 300D? John Deere Green! Think a
 brush will do or should we splurge and get
 a roller?

 Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:07 AM
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 Subject: [MBZ] OK THIS is the one I have been waiting for


 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1594021401.html

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

 We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here
 yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
 get a whole lot more.

 I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours
 are. We will likely have at least some
 snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.

 How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or
 some other source of heat?

 I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul
 it out and make sure it will still run.
 I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go
 with either diesel or propane. It is only
 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our
 gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
 swap stuff back and forth.

 Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


 Hi Randy,

 Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

 Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26 in the back yard
 and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

 We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
 night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
 accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
 lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter
 of
 all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
 temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5
 days.


 We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

 Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
 Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
 Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
 Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)

 This is a very big deal for D.C.

 Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
 great!

 No mas!

 Andrew
 snow covered 1985 300TD

 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

  How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
 
  Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.


Firewood comes from stores?
Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or half of 
one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total overkill)




We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.


It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w 2-stroke 
generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale for $90-100 on 
occasion.
Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power line to 
the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his boats, and backfed 
the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the marine batteries. I suspect 
you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand. If you backfeed any part of the 
electrical wiring, you must isolate it by turning off the breaker or removing 
the fuse.



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I can power my furnace, a few lights with my 1500w genny.  Not fat 
living but is way ahead of nothing!  I wouldn't want much more due to 
cost, fuel use {got to lug it around and it's got to be fresh!}, crank 
starting etc.
Fireplace is NOT a good heat source!  With the draft it draws, it will 
be grossly inefficient when it pumps all the warm air out of the house.
I'm sure guys with 5KW will pipe in, different strokes for different 
folks..  I'm very happy to just exist for a few days every couple of years.


YMMV

Pete



On 2/10/2010 2:04 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennellb...@mts.net  wrote:

   

We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here
yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
get a whole lot more.

I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours
are. We will likely have at least some
snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.

How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or
some other source of heat?

I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul
it out and make sure it will still run.
I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go
with either diesel or propane. It is only
7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our
gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
swap stuff back and forth.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Hi Randy,

Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26 in the back yard
and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter
of
all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5
days.


We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)

This is a very big deal for D.C.

Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
great!

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennellb...@mts.net  wrote:

 

How was the storm in your area on the weekend?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
Only some of the power lines are buried here, mostly in the newer areas. Power 
still has to get here from the north
and be distributed about and that is pretty well all overhead stuff.

We rarely suffer outages of any duration - more often a blink of the lights and 
we are back up. However, the
thought still crosses my mind that we might be in tough shape if the power was 
out for long in the cold times so I
bought the little generator. I have recently been looking at a bigger but older 
one that runs on propane but the
fellow who wishes to sell it has never personally had it running or seen it 
running so I am not sure I want it. It
is also a couple of hundred miles away so not easy to go have a look at, esp 
this time of year. It is only 10Kw and
my existing one is 7.5Kw so not a huge increase in power. The bigger one is not 
portable unless one makes some sort
of cart for it. Don't know if that is important but I might want to use it at 
the lake or some such as well.

What sort of heat does your home have? Gas by the sounds of it.

Got to go for now.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

 We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge accumulations here
 yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
 get a whole lot more.

 I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be long gone before ours
 are. We will likely have at least some
 snow around until sometime in late March or even into April.

 How did you make out without power for a day? Do you have a fireplace or
 some other source of heat?

 I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but I really should haul
 it out and make sure it will still run.
 I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have been better to go
 with either diesel or propane. It is only
 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could run the blower on our
 gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
 swap stuff back and forth.

 Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


 Hi Randy,

 Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

 Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26 in the back yard
 and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

 We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started last
 night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another foot to
 accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!  I've
 lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest winter
 of
 all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like this, but
 temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next 5
 days.


 We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

 Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
 Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
 Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
 Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)

 This is a very big deal for D.C.

 Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it handled
 great!

 No mas!

 Andrew
 snow covered 1985 300TD

 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

  How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
 
  Randy
 
  

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).

-Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

andrew strasfogel wrote:
 Unfortunately, all
 the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.

Firewood comes from stores?
Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or
half of one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
overkill)

 
 We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our 
 fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
for $90-100 on occasion.
Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] crash safety not

2010-02-10 Thread RELNGSON
 What ever it is, we did verify that it's NOT a Smart Car ---..
 
And the sugar cane truck head-on (with a VW something) was nothing like 
this picture.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
 could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
 car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
 for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

 andrew strasfogel wrote:
  Unfortunately, all
  the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.

 Firewood comes from stores?
 Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
 Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or
 half of one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
 overkill)

 
  We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
  fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

 It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
 for $90-100 on occasion.
 Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
 line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
 boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
 marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
 If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
 by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.


 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I like it, but such a beast might be more expensive than a gasoline
powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a fee to someone
for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering solution though,
with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician wire in the
connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace and maybe
some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with maybe only a
3kw or 5kw generator.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up
to our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You 
 could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into 
 that car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much 
 power for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas
furnace).

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

 andrew strasfogel wrote:
  Unfortunately, all
  the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.

 Firewood comes from stores?
 Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for
sale?
 Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or 
 half of one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
 overkill)

 
  We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting 
  our fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

 It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w 
 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on 
 sale for $90-100 on occasion.
 Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power

 line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his 
 boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the 
 marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on
hand.
 If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it

 by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.


 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Shame on you for being unprepared...

I doubt she'd be so excited if the power company came and said We're going to 
bury your power lines so you don't have another outage, your share of the cost 
is $5000.


-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:04:23 -0500
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Power outages in the winter are quite rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.  The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow, when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel, because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning there was no
assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime soon.  We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.  Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of snow.  Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.  This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about freezing in the
dark.

Andrew


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas
That would be the ideal, though I think they are kinda pricey for no 
more than you might use it.  A small gasoline generator with a few 5gal 
cans of gas in the garage (cycle them so they don't get funky) would 
serve to crank up your heat occasionally to keep the house bearable.  
Though with the global warming you are experiencing power outages might 
be more frequent in the future and the natgas would be a better choice.  
Whoever our list colleague is who sells gensets should establish a 
presence in DC, you could be his agent and probably make a killing 
starting next week.


My niece in Alexandria didn't get their power back until Sunday night, 
it was starting to get quite chilly in their house.  If you have a 
fireplace you might want to look at a good woodstove insert, a fireplace 
sucks your warm air right up the chimney.  Oh, and buy a chainsaw and go 
around to all the trees that have collapsed in the heavy wet snow, load 
up your TD... be a manly man.  Let it dry over the summer and you're 
good to go.  I collected  a lot of firewood like that when I lived up by 
Boston, nor'easters and the neighborhood and town tree dump were my 
friend.  I had a woodstove in the kitchen, the last winter we were there 
I only spent $500 on oil for the burner over like 5-6 months.


--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

  



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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread LWB250
She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all the 
hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.

As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby 
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the 
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these lines 
drop me a note off list.

I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major outage 
since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local substation a few 
months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was fun coming home to a 
lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots of questions from the 
neighbors after that


Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
 Power outages in the winter are quite
 rare in DC, so we had  no backup plan
 - no generator or even firewood for our fireplace. 
 The power went out at
 6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
 when the house
 temp. was approx. 62 degrees.  Throughout the day, the
 outside temp. dropped
 during the snowstorm.  By 8 pm the inside temp was
 down to 54 while it was
 19 F. outside.  We debated checking into a hotel,
 because the power company
 (Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning
 there was no
 assurance we  would get our electricity back anytime
 soon.  We finally
 decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
 brilliant
 decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm. 
 Howls of joy ensued.
 
 Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
 outages due to high
 winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of
 snow.  Unfortunately, all
 the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
 firewood.  This time,
 however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
 thermostat to 68 so there
 will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
 again...
 
 We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
 converting our
 fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
 
 Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
 power lines were
 BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
 freezing in the
 dark.
 
 Andrew
 
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
 wrote:
 
  We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
 accumulations here
  yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
  get a whole lot more.
 
  I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
 long gone before ours
  are. We will likely have at least some
  snow around until sometime in late March or even into
 April.
 
  How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
 have a fireplace or
  some other source of heat?
 
  I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
 I really should haul
  it out and make sure it will still run.
  I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
 been better to go
  with either diesel or propane. It is only
  7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
 run the blower on our
  gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
  swap stuff back and forth.
 
  Randy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
 Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 
 
  Hi Randy,
 
  Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
 
  Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
 had  26 in the back yard
  and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled
 Monday and Tuesday.  :)
 
  We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part
 deux that started last
  night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
 winds, and another foot to
  accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC
 should be  so lucky!  I've
  lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest
 AND coldest winter
  of
  all time.  We normally get a warming trend after
 a snowstorm like this, but
  temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing
 over the next 5
  days.
 
 
  We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with
 accumulation:
 
  Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
  Tuesday, Feb. 2:    4
  Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
  Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)
 
  This is a very big deal for D.C.
 
  Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow
 last night and it handled
  great!
 
  No mas!
 
  Andrew
  snow covered 1985 300TD
 
  On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
 wrote:
 
   How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
  
   Randy
  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread LWB250
I can give you some ballpark numbers for a couple of nice air cooled automatic 
standby systems:

8kW natural gas with 100A automatic transfer switch - around $2400

13kW with same - around $3900

These can be set up for LP as well if you don't have natural gas.

That's with shipping, no installation, but unlimited customer and technical 
support.

If you have done any sort of house wiring and/or plumbing you can install one.  
It's really quite simple.

I have two sump pumps in my basement that absolutely cannot fail.  One can 
handle things unless there are torrential downpours for hours, but without 
electricity it would be a matter of minutes before my basement would be afloat.

With a standby generator installed, I am comfortable leaving on vacations and 
the like, as I know that I won't come home to a flooded basement.  The 
additional privilege of having power during an outage for the rest of the house 
is icing on the cake.

The size of my generator is such that there is little I can't run when we're 
off-grid, but that's the exception for most.  Being in the business has 
allowed me to get a much larger unit than I could otherwise afford

Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 3:49 PM
 I like it, but such a beast might be
 more expensive than a gasoline
 powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a
 fee to someone
 for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering
 solution though,
 with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician
 wire in the
 connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace
 and maybe
 some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with
 maybe only a
 3kw or 5kw generator.
 
 -Max
 



  


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Peter Hertzing
In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted heat source.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I like it, but such a beast might be more expensive than a gasoline
 powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a fee to someone
 for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering solution though,
 with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician wire in the
 connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace and maybe
 some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with maybe only a
 3kw or 5kw generator.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

 What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up
 to our utility natural gas line?

 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
 SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

  I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
  could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into
  that car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much
  power for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas
 furnace).
 
  -Max
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 
  andrew strasfogel wrote:
   Unfortunately, all
   the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
 
  Firewood comes from stores?
  Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for
 sale?
  Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or
  half of one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
  overkill)
 
  
   We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting
   our fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
 
  It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
  2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on
  sale for $90-100 on occasion.
  Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power

  line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
  boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
  marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on
 hand.
  If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it

  by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
 
 
  Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
I am chiming in late but I agree - good but expensive. If you look at places 
like Lowes they likely sell a setup
that is installed in a box outside - wired into the sytem and automatic so you 
won't even know the power is off in
some cases. Cost will be like $10K. Given you are in the city you probably need 
less than that. Wait until summer
when no one remembers the snowstorm and buy a used one off of Kijiji or 
something such and then keep it tuned up so
it will run when you need it.

There are diesel ones available too so that would even be better than gasoline 
given your diesel cars. You could
siphon the fuel out of the cars if need be and that would be enough to keep you 
going for a bit with small
generator.

Natural gas would be nice but you could also consider one fired by propane. 
Propane stored in tanks in your garage
would not get old like gasoline.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
 could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
 car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
 for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

 andrew strasfogel wrote:
  Unfortunately, all
  the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.

 Firewood comes from stores?
 Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
 Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or
 half of one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
 overkill)

 
  We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
  fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

 It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
 for $90-100 on occasion.
 Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
 line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
 boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
 marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
 If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
 by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.


 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
Wow, nice prices. I think I would have to pay double that here.

If you were in an area where power failed all the time, you might want to go 
even deeper into this stuff. Do a
google search and you should come up with a story by a fellow in Florida who 
got tired of hurricanes taking out his
power. He got one of the Lister style diesel engines now made in India and 
hooked it up to a big generator head. A
nice setup if you need it.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of LWB250
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


I can give you some ballpark numbers for a couple of nice air cooled automatic 
standby systems:

8kW natural gas with 100A automatic transfer switch - around $2400

13kW with same - around $3900

These can be set up for LP as well if you don't have natural gas.

That's with shipping, no installation, but unlimited customer and technical 
support.

If you have done any sort of house wiring and/or plumbing you can install one.  
It's really quite simple.

I have two sump pumps in my basement that absolutely cannot fail.  One can 
handle things unless there are
torrential downpours for hours, but without electricity it would be a matter of 
minutes before my basement would be
afloat.

With a standby generator installed, I am comfortable leaving on vacations and 
the like, as I know that I won't come
home to a flooded basement.  The additional privilege of having power during an 
outage for the rest of the house is
icing on the cake.

The size of my generator is such that there is little I can't run when we're 
off-grid, but that's the exception for
most.  Being in the business has allowed me to get a much larger unit than I 
could otherwise afford

Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 3:49 PM
 I like it, but such a beast might be
 more expensive than a gasoline
 powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a
 fee to someone
 for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering
 solution though,
 with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician
 wire in the
 connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace
 and maybe
 some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with
 maybe only a
 3kw or 5kw generator.

 -Max







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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
Check with your insurance company first. Many are reluctant to have any sort of 
wood stove in the house. I expect
they would ban fireplaces too if they could. Probably most fireplaces are more 
of a decoration than a useful item.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Peter Hertzing
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted heat source.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I like it, but such a beast might be more expensive than a gasoline
 powered generator to purchase, and you may have to pay a fee to someone
 for installation.  It would be an elegant engineering solution though,
 with no need to re-fuel.  If you had an electrician wire in the
 connection so you only had emergency power for the furnace and maybe
 some lights and the microwave, you'd be in business with maybe only a
 3kw or 5kw generator.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

 What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up
 to our utility natural gas line?

 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
 SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

  I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
  could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into
  that car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much
  power for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas
 furnace).
 
  -Max
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 
  andrew strasfogel wrote:
   Unfortunately, all
   the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.
 
  Firewood comes from stores?
  Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for
 sale?
  Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or
  half of one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
  overkill)
 
  
   We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting
   our fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.
 
  It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
  2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on
  sale for $90-100 on occasion.
  Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power

  line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
  boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
  marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on
 hand.
  If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it

  by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.
 
 
  Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Kevin
That and air quality districts are popping up and deciding when you can and
cannot use your fireplace or stove, regardless of EPA approval.

Fortunately, I moved somewhere that it's still considered acceptible (and
the norm) to burn yard debris.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:55:51PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote:
 Check with your insurance company first. Many are reluctant to have any sort 
 of wood stove in the house. I expect
 they would ban fireplaces too if they could. Probably most fireplaces are 
 more of a decoration than a useful item.
 

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
An insert can make a fireplace much more efficient (although still lousy 
compared to a stove) and much more comfortable to live with...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:31:26 -0500
From: Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
Message-ID: 4b73098e.9010...@comcast.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I can power my furnace, a few lights with my 1500w genny.  Not fat 
living but is way ahead of nothing!  I wouldn't want much more due to 
cost, fuel use {got to lug it around and it's got to be fresh!}, crank 
starting etc.
Fireplace is NOT a good heat source!  With the draft it draws, it will 
be grossly inefficient when it pumps all the warm air out of the house.
I'm sure guys with 5KW will pipe in, different strokes for different 
folks..  I'm very happy to just exist for a few days every couple of years.

YMMV

Pete



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
After the ice storm here in '08 firewood was not only free for the asking in 
some cases you could get paid to TAKE it...

Before I was sidelined with chest pain I was doing pretty well putting firewood 
ahead. Now I'm behind again... Might go cut some this weekend since our 
snowstorm is turning out to be a squib.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:04:52 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
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That would be the ideal, though I think they are kinda pricey for no 
more than you might use it.  A small gasoline generator with a few 5gal 
cans of gas in the garage (cycle them so they don't get funky) would 
serve to crank up your heat occasionally to keep the house bearable.  
Though with the global warming you are experiencing power outages might 
be more frequent in the future and the natgas would be a better choice.  
Whoever our list colleague is who sells gensets should establish a 
presence in DC, you could be his agent and probably make a killing 
starting next week.

My niece in Alexandria didn't get their power back until Sunday night, 
it was starting to get quite chilly in their house.  If you have a 
fireplace you might want to look at a good woodstove insert, a fireplace 
sucks your warm air right up the chimney.  Oh, and buy a chainsaw and go 
around to all the trees that have collapsed in the heavy wet snow, load 
up your TD... be a manly man.  Let it dry over the summer and you're 
good to go.  I collected  a lot of firewood like that when I lived up by 
Boston, nor'easters and the neighborhood and town tree dump were my 
friend.  I had a woodstove in the kitchen, the last winter we were there 
I only spent $500 on oil for the burner over like 5-6 months.

--R



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread WILTON
Anybody know of a 5 or 6 kw Diesel-powered gen set?  Honda, Mahindra, 
whoever, etc?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all 
the hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.


As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby 
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the 
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these 
lines drop me a note off list.


I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major 
outage since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local 
substation a few months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was 
fun coming home to a lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots 
of questions from the neighbors after that



Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:


From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
Power outages in the winter are quite
rare in DC, so we had no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.
The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees. Throughout the day, the
outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm. By 8 pm the inside temp was
down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside. We debated checking into a hotel,
because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning
there was no
assurance we would get our electricity back anytime
soon. We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.
Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of
snow. Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
firewood. This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
wrote:

 We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
accumulations here
 yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
 get a whole lot more.

 I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
long gone before ours
 are. We will likely have at least some
 snow around until sometime in late March or even into
April.

 How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
have a fireplace or
 some other source of heat?

 I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
I really should haul
 it out and make sure it will still run.
 I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
been better to go
 with either diesel or propane. It is only
 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
run the blower on our
 gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
 swap stuff back and forth.

 Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


 Hi Randy,

 Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

 Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
had 26 in the back yard
 and lost power for a day. Work was canceled
Monday and Tuesday. :)

 We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part
deux that started last
 night. Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
winds, and another foot to
 accumulate before it's all over. Whistler BC
should be so lucky! I've
 lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest
AND coldest winter
 of
 all time. We normally get a warming trend after
a snowstorm like this, but
 temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing
over the next 5
 days.


 We've had FOUR consecutive snow storms with
accumulation:

 Saturday, Jan. 30: 6
 Tuesday, Feb. 2: 4
 Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6: 25
 Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)

 This is a very big deal for D.C.

 Benz content: I drove the 83 300TD in the snow
last night and it handled
 great!

 No mas!

 Andrew
 snow covered 1985 300TD

 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
wrote:

  How was the storm in your area on the weekend?
 
  Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas
A guy I know was telling me about some Amish people he knew, they had a 
diesel engine for something (they will use diesel engines directly but 
not generate electricity with them for reasons that are not clear to me) 
and ran the radiator into the house to warm it.  So I'm thinking you 
could get your diesel car, do a bypass on the radiator, hook a gen head 
to the crank pulley with a long belt and the gen on a wheeled cart that 
would roll right over the engine, like a hospital bed table, and you 
would be good to go as long as you had diesel.


--R

Peter Hertzing wrote:

In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted heat source.

  



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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread R A Bennell
I have seen them in a local store. Chinese stuff I suppose but it looked 
reasonably well put together. Check out
some of the Farm  Fleet or similar stores down your way or maybe Grizzley or 
Harbour Freight etc.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Anybody know of a 5 or 6 kw Diesel-powered gen set?  Honda, Mahindra,
whoever, etc?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all
the hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.

As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these
lines drop me a note off list.

I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major
outage since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local
substation a few months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was
fun coming home to a lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots
of questions from the neighbors after that


Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
 Power outages in the winter are quite
 rare in DC, so we had no backup plan
 - no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.
 The power went out at
 6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
 when the house
 temp. was approx. 62 degrees. Throughout the day, the
 outside temp. dropped
 during the snowstorm. By 8 pm the inside temp was
 down to 54 while it was
 19 F. outside. We debated checking into a hotel,
 because the power company
 (Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning
 there was no
 assurance we would get our electricity back anytime
 soon. We finally
 decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
 brilliant
 decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.
 Howls of joy ensued.

 Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
 outages due to high
 winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of
 snow. Unfortunately, all
 the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
 firewood. This time,
 however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
 thermostat to 68 so there
 will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
 again...

 We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
 converting our
 fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

 Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
 power lines were
 BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
 freezing in the
 dark.

 Andrew

 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
 wrote:

  We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
 accumulations here
  yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
  get a whole lot more.
 
  I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
 long gone before ours
  are. We will likely have at least some
  snow around until sometime in late March or even into
 April.
 
  How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
 have a fireplace or
  some other source of heat?
 
  I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
 I really should haul
  it out and make sure it will still run.
  I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
 been better to go
  with either diesel or propane. It is only
  7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
 run the blower on our
  gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
  swap stuff back and forth.
 
  Randy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
 Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
 
 
  Hi Randy,
 
  Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.
 
  Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
 had 26 in the back yard
  and lost power for a day. Work was canceled
 Monday and Tuesday. :)
 
  We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part
 deux that started last
  night. Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
 winds, and another foot to
  accumulate before it's all over. Whistler BC
 should be so lucky! I've
  lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest
 AND coldest winter
  of
  all time. We normally get a warming trend after
 a snowstorm like this, but
  temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing
 over the next 5
  days.
 
 
  We've had FOUR consecutive 

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
I am an evolved manly-man.  Whenever I hear a chain saw I track down the
manly tree crew workers and offer to take the cut logs off their hands for
free, if they dump them in the alley near my garage.  Works like a charm, a
true win-win because it saves them hauling to the dump.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 That would be the ideal, though I think they are kinda pricey for no more
 than you might use it.  A small gasoline generator with a few 5gal cans of
 gas in the garage (cycle them so they don't get funky) would serve to crank
 up your heat occasionally to keep the house bearable.  Though with the
 global warming you are experiencing power outages might be more frequent in
 the future and the natgas would be a better choice.  Whoever our list
 colleague is who sells gensets should establish a presence in DC, you could
 be his agent and probably make a killing starting next week.

 My niece in Alexandria didn't get their power back until Sunday night, it
 was starting to get quite chilly in their house.  If you have a fireplace
 you might want to look at a good woodstove insert, a fireplace sucks your
 warm air right up the chimney.  Oh, and buy a chainsaw and go around to all
 the trees that have collapsed in the heavy wet snow, load up your TD... be a
 manly man.  Let it dry over the summer and you're good to go.  I collected
  a lot of firewood like that when I lived up by Boston, nor'easters and the
 neighborhood and town tree dump were my friend.  I had a woodstove in the
 kitchen, the last winter we were there I only spent $500 on oil for the
 burner over like 5-6 months.

 --R


 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
 our utility natural gas line?




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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Rich Thomas

Then you need a woodstove and a splitter, go off the heat grid.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I am an evolved manly-man.  Whenever I hear a chain saw I track down the
manly tree crew workers and offer to take the cut logs off their hands for
free, if they dump them in the alley near my garage.  Works like a charm, a
true win-win because it saves them hauling to the dump.

  



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Re: [MBZ] To mechanics, 40% of a modern car is a black box

2010-02-10 Thread Rolf

Reasons why I drive a W123.

On 02/07/2010 11:10 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

Interesting stuff here, related to the Toyota situation.

 
http://blogs.computerworld.com/15547/toyotas_lesson_software_can_be_unsafe_at_any_speed

Where's Ralph Nader on this?  He seems to be blaming the NHTSA.

 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6125PY20100203


   



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Re: [MBZ] OT, drum brakes

2010-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

95 Suburban.  Its stock size tires.

Donald Snook wrote:

Kaleb wrote: I saw no signs at all of leaking.  Do you know if the ABS in those
things is 4 wheel or just rear?  Know how to test the system to figure
out why my ABS light is on?

AH HA!  That is important information. I either didn't know the ABS light was 
on or I forgot about it.  That could be causing the grabbing.  Did you just put 
different size tires on it than it had before?  If so, then that is probably 
the problem because the ABS was calibrated to the previous tire size.  If you 
didn't change the tire size, then it is probably a wheel speed sensor that is 
out of whack and causing the grabbing.  I don't know exactly how to check that, 
but I know somebody who does.  I'll call them today.

What year is the truck again?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread WILTON
'Just Googled a bunch of 'em; 'hadn't heard much about small (5kw, etc) 
Diesel ones before.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


I have seen them in a local store. Chinese stuff I suppose but it looked 
reasonably well put together. Check out
some of the Farm  Fleet or similar stores down your way or maybe Grizzley 
or Harbour Freight etc.


Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


Anybody know of a 5 or 6 kw Diesel-powered gen set?  Honda, Mahindra,
whoever, etc?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


She is right - our utilities in Florida were underground, and despite all
the hurricane related outages a few years ago ours never even blinked.

As for a generator, it's not a bad idea - some of the smaller home standby
units we sell are quite affordable, especially when you consider the
inconvenience of being out of power.  If you have questions along these
lines drop me a note off list.

I have a 25kW natural gas unit at my house and have yet to have a major
outage since I installed it.  We had an interrupter blow at a local
substation a few months ago, but we were only out for 45 minutes.  It was
fun coming home to a lit house when everyone else was dark, however.  Lots
of questions from the neighbors after that


Dan


--- On Wed, 2/10/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:


From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:04 PM
Power outages in the winter are quite
rare in DC, so we had no backup plan
- no generator or even firewood for our fireplace.
The power went out at
6:45 AM Saturday during the onslaught of heavy, wet snow,
when the house
temp. was approx. 62 degrees. Throughout the day, the
outside temp. dropped
during the snowstorm. By 8 pm the inside temp was
down to 54 while it was
19 F. outside. We debated checking into a hotel,
because the power company
(Pepco) was warning of a multiple day event, meaning
there was no
assurance we would get our electricity back anytime
soon. We finally
decided to bundle up and stay put, which turned out to be a
brilliant
decision because the power came back on at 10:10 pm.
Howls of joy ensued.

Today there is another likelihood of more widespread
outages due to high
winds, coupled with the additional 10 (25 cm) of
snow. Unfortunately, all
the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy
firewood. This time,
however, my Winnipeg BIL told us to ratchet up the
thermostat to 68 so there
will be more residual house heat should the lines go down
again...

We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or
converting our
fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

Donna is forever - and rightfully - complaining that if our
power lines were
BURIED (like in Winnipeg) we wouldn't have to worry about
freezing in the
dark.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net
wrote:

 We have had little bits of snow on and off but no huge
accumulations here
 yet. That is ok with me. I hope we don't
 get a whole lot more.

 I am willing to bet that your big snow piles will be
long gone before ours
 are. We will likely have at least some
 snow around until sometime in late March or even into
April.

 How did you make out without power for a day? Do you
have a fireplace or
 some other source of heat?

 I bought a generator a few years ago just in case but
I really should haul
 it out and make sure it will still run.
 I bought a gas powered unit but it probably would have
been better to go
 with either diesel or propane. It is only
 7500W so not big enough to do a whole lot but could
run the blower on our
 gas furnace and the microwave etc if we
 swap stuff back and forth.

 Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on
Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew


 Hi Randy,

 Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

 Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we
had 26 in the back yard
 and lost power for a day. Work was canceled
Monday and Tuesday. :)

 We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part
deux that started last
 night. Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling
winds, and another foot to
 accumulate before it's all over. Whistler BC
should be so lucky! I've
 lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest
AND coldest winter
 of
 

Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I do the same. Just don't understand why they can't sell the stuff.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

Then you need a woodstove and a splitter, go off the heat grid.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
I am an evolved manly-man.  Whenever I hear a chain saw I track down the
manly tree crew workers and offer to take the cut logs off their hands for
free, if they dump them in the alley near my garage.  Works like a charm, a
true win-win because it saves them hauling to the dump.

 

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Jim Cathey
What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up 
to

our utility natural gas line?


Probably not really cost-effective for most people.
They cost a lot more than the usual rope-pull generattle,
but if you want automatic turnkey operation they're excellent.

You can make do with a camping genny, like the 1600W Coleman
I used for our longest power outage, but the common 5-7kW
job is much easier to live with, and doesn't use so much
gasoline that you can't keep it fed.  The 1600W was pure
Green Acres, if you remember that old TV show episode.
(And ironic, considering where I live.)

One of those, some experience in powering the house with it,
and a rack of wood to burn and you're good for quite some time.
Keep the freezers cold and some lights on, and heat with wood.

The enclosed 5kW diesels on wheels are surprisingly quiet.
I got a dead Costco one that needs a new voltage regulator.
Still haven't fixed that yet, our primary backup source is
the usual 6kW hardware store special.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] I think somebody got shot in here

2010-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320485997882fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

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[MBZ] idle speed

2010-02-10 Thread Allan Streib
This winter my idle speed after a cold start seems to be a little too
low.  The whole car shakes at idle on a cold morning.  With just a
slight throttle, maybe an additional 50 RPM or so, everything is normal.

I did replace my motor mounts last fall, could this have altered the
idle speed at all, i.e. if the motor is now sitting a little higher on
the new mounts could the accelerator linkage need some adjustment?

Once the engine has warmed up, the shaking at idle is much reduced.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] I think somebody got shot in here

2010-02-10 Thread Allan Streib
Need to call in The Wolf?

Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320485997882fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: I think somebody got shot in here

2010-02-10 Thread Jim Cathey

Need to call in The Wolf?


Oak's nice.

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[MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale

2010-02-10 Thread Peter Hertzing
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ctd/1591456798.html

Okay - I'll bite.  I have never had a diesel and want you guys to tell me if
this would be a good one to own.  My current benz is a 1995 E320 and I have
been pretty impressed with the design and performance.  What do I need to be
aware of on this car?  How about auto tranny?  Do they last longer on a
understressed diesel then on my way to powerflow gasser?

I'm thinking about looking at the car tommorow what should I look for?

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender??

2010-02-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:54:56 -0500 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 http://richmond.craigslist.org/ctd/1547545749.html
 
 With 228k mi it should either have a new engine or be burning oil by
 now - right?

It ain't necessarily so ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
My previous abode had two fireplace inserts so I am aware of their pros and
cons.

I was thinking that a buiilt-in *natural gas* powered generator that somehow
exhausts through the furnace flue would make the most elegant solution, but
is that even possible?  I guess I could Google it.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
 our utility natural gas line?


 Probably not really cost-effective for most people.
 They cost a lot more than the usual rope-pull generattle,
 but if you want automatic turnkey operation they're excellent.

 You can make do with a camping genny, like the 1600W Coleman
 I used for our longest power outage, but the common 5-7kW
 job is much easier to live with, and doesn't use so much
 gasoline that you can't keep it fed.  The 1600W was pure
 Green Acres, if you remember that old TV show episode.
 (And ironic, considering where I live.)

 One of those, some experience in powering the house with it,
 and a rack of wood to burn and you're good for quite some time.
 Keep the freezers cold and some lights on, and heat with wood.

 The enclosed 5kW diesels on wheels are surprisingly quiet.
 I got a dead Costco one that needs a new voltage regulator.
 Still haven't fixed that yet, our primary backup source is
 the usual 6kW hardware store special.

 -- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Dieselhead

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD



Nothing personal Andrew, but we are all safe for a couple of days 
while DC is buried in snow!


I say :

mas!
Mas!

let it snow (in DC!)

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread John Reames
That's about what we had up here (Baltimore). We got 20.5 from the one  
that just ended.  We got 28 from the weekend one.  It's well above my  
three year old's eyeballs.  I don't remember the previous two.  I  
think our season totals are close to 80 inches!


We have not seen a city snow plow make it past our house since Friday  
night.  We have gone out and dug a couple of them out, though.  We  
hand dug some of our street (i put in at least 13 hours snow removal  
since saturday...) and all the benzes (2 99 e300's and an 85 300d)  
fired right up once they were cleared.  The one e300 did okay in the  
snow when we got out and went to BJ's to fill the trunk (ice melter,  
cat litter, cat food, paper products...), and I did okay backing all  
the way into my spot...


With the travel ban phase 3 snow emergency in place, we just sit  
here...


BTW, can anyone spare some global warming to send our way?

--
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On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:53, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Hi Randy,

Thanks for asking - I thought nobody cared.

Last Saturday's storm was a record breaker - we had  26 in the back  
yard

and lost power for a day.  Work was canceled Monday and Tuesday.  :)

We are now in the grip of the blizzard of '10 part deux that started  
last
night.  Temperatures are in the low 20s, howling winds, and another  
foot to
accumulate before it's all over.  Whistler BC should be  so lucky!   
I've
lived in DC since 1975 and this is by far the snowiest AND coldest  
winter of
all time.  We normally get a warming trend after a snowstorm like  
this, but
temperatures are not going to rise much above freezing over the next  
5 days.



We've had  FOUR consecutive snow storms with accumulation:

Saturday, Jan. 30:  6
Tuesday, Feb. 2:4
Friday/Saturday, Feb 5-6:  25
Tuesday/Wednesday, Feb. 9- 10: 10 (still snowing)

This is a very big deal for D.C.

Benz content:  I drove the 83 300TD in the snow last night and it  
handled

great!

No mas!

Andrew
snow covered 1985 300TD

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:


How was the storm in your area on the weekend?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread John Reames
Probaby have the engine to spin a compressor to refrigerate milk...  
The multiletter agencies are kinda funny about that...


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On Feb 10, 2010, at 18:04, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 wrote:


A guy I know was telling me about some Amish people he knew, they  
had a diesel engine for something (they will use diesel engines  
directly but not generate electricity with them for reasons that are  
not clear to me) and ran the radiator into the house to warm it.  So  
I'm thinking you could get your diesel car, do a bypass on the  
radiator, hook a gen head to the crank pulley with a long belt and  
the gen on a wheeled cart that would roll right over the engine,  
like a hospital bed table, and you would be good to go as long as  
you had diesel.


--R

Peter Hertzing wrote:
In regards to the fireplace - I would get a wood insert for the  
fireplace.
Then you can power the blower with your new gas generator.  This  
would be
the lowest cost way to be sure you would have an  uninterrupted  
heat source.





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Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender??

2010-02-10 Thread Allan Streib
Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net writes:

 On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:54:56 -0500 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 http://richmond.craigslist.org/ctd/1547545749.html
 
 With 228k mi it should either have a new engine or be burning oil by
 now - right?

 It ain't necessarily so ...

Yeah, IIRC Marshall said that they ALL would eventually fail.  Some
sooner, some later.

Here recently there's been the theory that the real cause of the bent
rods is hydrolocking caused by a leaking head gasket.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Dieselhead

Bonus, you could always go sit in the nice warm car!

Being a Diesel,  you can even sleep in the nice warm car with no fear 
of CO., but you should pipe the exhaust outside.



I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale

2010-02-10 Thread Dieselhead
For the price, you might not get hurt too much.  At 300k, it needs 
new nozzles, a new timing chain and new chain guides.  While you are 
doing that, may was well put on a new tensioner and water 
pump/thermostat.  If they have evidence the PO replaced those within 
100k or so, that is a plus.


If the chain stretch measures ok, it most likely will need the new 
guides within 50k, or they might break the chain, and that breaks the 
cam and the cam bearings.


If you do the work yourself, you are looking at maybe $500 for parts.

Check the jack points for rust.  Check the shocks.  If they are not 
Bilsteins, deduct $500-$750.  have an alignment shop check the 
suspension.



http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ctd/1591456798.html

Okay - I'll bite.  I have never had a diesel and want you guys to tell me if
this would be a good one to own.  My current benz is a 1995 E320 and I have
been pretty impressed with the design and performance.  What do I need to be
aware of on this car?  How about auto tranny?  Do they last longer on a
understressed diesel then on my way to powerflow gasser?

I'm thinking about looking at the car tommorow what should I look for?

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] I think somebody got shot in here

2010-02-10 Thread Dieselhead

Looks perfect for Wonko!  It even comes with a bumper sticker!




(S!  Don't tell him!)

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:29:20 -0500 andrew strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking that a buiilt-in *natural gas* powered generator that
 somehow exhausts through the furnace flue would make the most elegant
 solution, but is that even possible?  I guess I could Google it.

You could run the exhaust pipe inside and have it heat the house, but you
would not want to terminate it in the flue; the flue isn't designed for
that kind of thing. You would want to make sure none of the exhaust has
any (or should I say, ANY) possibility of coming inside the house.


Craig

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[MBZ] I hate it when that happens

2010-02-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
I have a VIA EPIA mini-ITX motherboard in a VIA Sereniti case which I
powered up this evening. As we were getting ready for dinner, we heard a
fairly loud whistling noise. Shirley pointed to my office and the cloud
of smoke coming from the computer. I guess one of the power supply's
electrolytics dried up and blew. Oh very well.


Craig

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[MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-10 Thread E M
Anyone else a fan of the old 600 SWB ?  I've been watching lots of YouTube
vids on them.  Has to rate as one of my top 5 all time fave Mercedes.

The Maybach might be a great car, but by comparison, it almost seems a parts
bin car, which it kinda is.

Ed
300E
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 Diesel for sale

2010-02-10 Thread John Freer
All of what he said but also don't forget to make sure the head has
been upgraded to at least a # 17 and the cat converter in the engine
compartment has been replaced.

IOW, lots of issues!

John

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 For the price, you might not get hurt too much.  At 300k, it needs new
 nozzles, a new timing chain and new chain guides.  While you are doing that,
 may was well put on a new tensioner and water pump/thermostat.  If they have
 evidence the PO replaced those within 100k or so, that is a plus.

 If the chain stretch measures ok, it most likely will need the new guides
 within 50k, or they might break the chain, and that breaks the cam and the
 cam bearings.

 If you do the work yourself, you are looking at maybe $500 for parts.

 Check the jack points for rust.  Check the shocks.  If they are not
 Bilsteins, deduct $500-$750.  have an alignment shop check the suspension.

 http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ctd/1591456798.html

 Okay - I'll bite.  I have never had a diesel and want you guys to tell me
 if
 this would be a good one to own.  My current benz is a 1995 E320 and I
 have
 been pretty impressed with the design and performance.  What do I need to
 be
 aware of on this car?  How about auto tranny?  Do they last longer on a
 understressed diesel then on my way to powerflow gasser?

 I'm thinking about looking at the car tommorow what should I look for?

 Peter
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Re: [MBZ] E 320 Coil Packs

2010-02-10 Thread Thomas Savage

Peter Hertzing wrote:

no two plugs per pack sorry its a 1995


Ah.  I was thinking W210 with the V6.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
Natural gas (or propane) is the way to go IMO.  The fuel doesn't go bad and
the carb doesn't gum up.  And with Natural gas there's no storage problem (I
have a 500 gal underground propane tank).  The downside is you need a more
costly generator that's set up for LP on NG.  My neighbor in FL had a 40KW
NG generator that fed the neighborhood after several hurricanes.

Diesel may be more efficient but there are the fuel issues (transportation,
storage, shelf life).  

Scott

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 15:37
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

What do people think of [her idea of] purchasing a generator hooked up to
our utility natural gas line?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I like the inverter idea, I wonder how much power Andrew needs? You
 could leave the diesel Benz idling while plugging the inverter into that
 car and the furnace into the inverter, but you may need too much power
 for the start draw from the furnace blower (assuming gas furnace).

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:28 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew

 andrew strasfogel wrote:
  Unfortunately, all
  the stores are closed so I can't go out and buy firewood.

 Firewood comes from stores?
 Anybody on Craigslist or in the WaPost offering delivered wood for sale?
 Do you have room in the garage to stack a 4'x8'x16 rick of wood, or
 half of one? (a full cord = three 16 ricks = 128 cubic feet = total
 overkill)

 
  We are considering getting a gas powered generator, or converting our
  fireplace to natural gas, as a result of this experience.

 It doesn't take much to run a furnace. One of those little 1000w
 2-stroke generators can do it if the furnace is 110v. I see them on sale
 for $90-100 on occasion.
 Before he got the standby generator, my dad put an outlet in the power
 line to the central heat boiler, brought in the batteries out of his
 boats, and backfed the outlet with an inverter hooked up to all the
 marine batteries. I suspect you've got a few group 49 batteries on hand.
 If you backfeed any part of the electrical wiring, you must isolate it
 by turning off the breaker or removing the fuse.


 Mitch.

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