Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Is there a difference in torque procedure between the injection pumps
with o-rings in the DV and those without?  On my '85 300TD with
non-turbo engine, DV's used O-rings, and the 30-30-35 procedure was
correct.

-Max

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

That's the om60x procedure. The 617 uses 50Nm in one step IIRC.

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On Mar 11, 2010, at 14:27, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Not sure about a '74; for the OM61x engines (as well as later
 engines) the procedure is torque to 30Nm, release, 30Nm, release, then

 30+5Nm.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- 
 boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of B Dike
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:58 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

 Hi All,

 Could someone please post the torque sequence for delivery valves?   
 This is for the 74 240D.

 Thanks,

 Bruce




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Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

2010-03-12 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I have a spare intake but don't remember if those bits are still
attached, I'll take a look later but I won't be able to mail until maybe
Saturday or maybe a week from Saturday.  I'll let you know.

-Max 

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:52 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

Someone took off bits from the engine in my SDL.  I am looking for the 3
metal tabs the are bolted to the intake manifold, and the plastic clips
for the back 3 injection lines clip into them.  There is also a metal
clip that is supposed to bolt under the manifold and holds the back
three lines.  I need that also.

Some genius decided the engine was not supposed to have them, so they 
took off the hardware to stabilize the injection lines.You might 
get by with that for a while on the old heavy, short lines, but not with
the long, light lines of the OM603

If anyone (Kaleb?) has these around on a spare engine, I sure would like
to have them on my engine.  Send me an email off-list.

TIA
126die...@gmail.com

1987 300SDL

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

2010-03-12 Thread pm7088
Seems to me that the plastic bits were cooked and brittle on my 300SDL, better 
to start with new ones from a TRusty sort of fellow. 




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- Original Message - 
From: Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil 
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:50:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed 

I have a spare intake but don't remember if those bits are still 
attached, I'll take a look later but I won't be able to mail until maybe 
Saturday or maybe a week from Saturday. I'll let you know. 

-Max 

-Original Message- 
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:52 PM 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Subject: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed 

Someone took off bits from the engine in my SDL. I am looking for the 3 
metal tabs the are bolted to the intake manifold, and the plastic clips 
for the back 3 injection lines clip into them. There is also a metal 
clip that is supposed to bolt under the manifold and holds the back 
three lines. I need that also. 

Some genius decided the engine was not supposed to have them, so they 
took off the hardware to stabilize the injection lines. You might 
get by with that for a while on the old heavy, short lines, but not with 
the long, light lines of the OM603 

If anyone (Kaleb?) has these around on a spare engine, I sure would like 
to have them on my engine. Send me an email off-list. 

TIA 
126die...@gmail.com 

1987 300SDL 

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

2010-03-12 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Good point - I only have extra metal bits.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

Seems to me that the plastic bits were cooked and brittle on my 300SDL,
better to start with new ones from a TRusty sort of fellow. 




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- Original Message -
From: Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:50:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed 

I have a spare intake but don't remember if those bits are still
attached, I'll take a look later but I won't be able to mail until maybe
Saturday or maybe a week from Saturday. I'll let you know. 

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:52 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed 

Someone took off bits from the engine in my SDL. I am looking for the 3
metal tabs the are bolted to the intake manifold, and the plastic clips
for the back 3 injection lines clip into them. There is also a metal
clip that is supposed to bolt under the manifold and holds the back
three lines. I need that also. 

Some genius decided the engine was not supposed to have them, so they
took off the hardware to stabilize the injection lines. You might get by
with that for a while on the old heavy, short lines, but not with the
long, light lines of the OM603 

If anyone (Kaleb?) has these around on a spare engine, I sure would like
to have them on my engine. Send me an email off-list. 

TIA
126die...@gmail.com 

1987 300SDL 

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread John Reames
There is a difference between the pumps where the DV's screw into  
steel pieces and the ones where they screw directly into the aluminium  
pump body.




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On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:44, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,  
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:



Is there a difference in torque procedure between the injection pumps
with o-rings in the DV and those without?  On my '85 300TD with
non-turbo engine, DV's used O-rings, and the 30-30-35 procedure was
correct.

-Max

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

That's the om60x procedure. The 617 uses 50Nm in one step IIRC.

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On Mar 11, 2010, at 14:27, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


Not sure about a '74; for the OM61x engines (as well as later
engines) the procedure is torque to 30Nm, release, 30Nm, release,  
then



30+5Nm.

-Max

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boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of B Dike
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:58 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

Hi All,

Could someone please post the torque sequence for delivery valves?
This is for the 74 240D.

Thanks,

Bruce




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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread John Reames
Maybe you had a Cali special 85... They had an IP that used the 33  
tooth spline socket for the DV's.  The 6 point hex socket DV's use the  
other procedure.


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On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:44, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,  
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:



Is there a difference in torque procedure between the injection pumps
with o-rings in the DV and those without?  On my '85 300TD with
non-turbo engine, DV's used O-rings, and the 30-30-35 procedure was
correct.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

That's the om60x procedure. The 617 uses 50Nm in one step IIRC.

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On Mar 11, 2010, at 14:27, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


Not sure about a '74; for the OM61x engines (as well as later
engines) the procedure is torque to 30Nm, release, 30Nm, release,  
then



30+5Nm.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-
boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of B Dike
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:58 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

Hi All,

Could someone please post the torque sequence for delivery valves?
This is for the 74 240D.

Thanks,

Bruce




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Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

2010-03-12 Thread John Reames

Don't forget to get new rubber pads for underneath them.

FWIW, I keep both the pads and the clips on hand.

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On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:39, pm7...@comcast.net wrote:

Seems to me that the plastic bits were cooked and brittle on my  
300SDL, better to start with new ones from a TRusty sort of fellow.





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All Mail to:
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- Original Message -
From: Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil 


To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:50:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

I have a spare intake but don't remember if those bits are still
attached, I'll take a look later but I won't be able to mail until  
maybe

Saturday or maybe a week from Saturday. I'll let you know.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:52 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

Someone took off bits from the engine in my SDL. I am looking for  
the 3
metal tabs the are bolted to the intake manifold, and the plastic  
clips

for the back 3 injection lines clip into them. There is also a metal
clip that is supposed to bolt under the manifold and holds the back
three lines. I need that also.

Some genius decided the engine was not supposed to have them, so they
took off the hardware to stabilize the injection lines. You might
get by with that for a while on the old heavy, short lines, but not  
with

the long, light lines of the OM603

If anyone (Kaleb?) has these around on a spare engine, I sure would  
like

to have them on my engine. Send me an email off-list.

TIA
126die...@gmail.com

1987 300SDL

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
No, it was a grey market car, 5 speed manual, manual windows/sunroof,
non-turbo engine but the injection pump was an odd ball, did not exactly
match any of the descriptions in the MBUSA service manual.  It seemed to
be an iteration just beyond the last non-turbo pump described in the
manual.  However, it did have the 33 spline-toothed DV's with O-rings.

-Max 

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Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

Maybe you had a Cali special 85... They had an IP that used the 33 tooth
spline socket for the DV's.  The 6 point hex socket DV's use the other
procedure.

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On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:44, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Is there a difference in torque procedure between the injection pumps 
 with o-rings in the DV and those without?  On my '85 300TD with 
 non-turbo engine, DV's used O-rings, and the 30-30-35 procedure was 
 correct.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:38 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Cc: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

 That's the om60x procedure. The 617 uses 50Nm in one step IIRC.

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 On Mar 11, 2010, at 14:27, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,

 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Not sure about a '74; for the OM61x engines (as well as later
 engines) the procedure is torque to 30Nm, release, 30Nm, release, 
 then

 30+5Nm.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- 
 boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of B Dike
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:58 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

 Hi All,

 Could someone please post the torque sequence for delivery valves?
 This is for the 74 240D.

 Thanks,

 Bruce




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Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part

2010-03-12 Thread LarryT
Thx Peter - 
Sorry I asked the question twice - still don't know how that happened - 


Larry

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Wide open throttle switch OR idle switch, depending on application.   
On a 60x it's the idle switch that turns on the idle control system.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

No, it was a grey market car, 5 speed manual, manual windows/sunroof,
non-turbo engine but the injection pump was an odd ball, did not exactly
match any of the descriptions in the MBUSA service manual.  It seemed to
be an iteration just beyond the last non-turbo pump described in the
manual.  However, it did have the 33 spline-toothed DV's with O-rings.



I was under the impression that the euros had the M pump, similar to the M pumps 
on the 60x engines here, while the US 617 engines had the MW. The only 617 I 
know of here with an injection pump by Mynä Diesel has an M pump from a euro 
617, as the Mynä modifications do not work with the MW pump's governor.


Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread John Reames
How does the description compare to the IP off a NA (naturally  
aspirated) OM60x?


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On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:38, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,  
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:



No, it was a grey market car, 5 speed manual, manual windows/sunroof,
non-turbo engine but the injection pump was an odd ball, did not  
exactly
match any of the descriptions in the MBUSA service manual.  It  
seemed to

be an iteration just beyond the last non-turbo pump described in the
manual.  However, it did have the 33 spline-toothed DV's with O-rings.

-Max

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Maybe you had a Cali special 85... They had an IP that used the 33  
tooth

spline socket for the DV's.  The 6 point hex socket DV's use the other
procedure.

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On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:44, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
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Is there a difference in torque procedure between the injection pumps
with o-rings in the DV and those without?  On my '85 300TD with
non-turbo engine, DV's used O-rings, and the 30-30-35 procedure was
correct.

-Max

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That's the om60x procedure. The 617 uses 50Nm in one step IIRC.

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53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


Not sure about a '74; for the OM61x engines (as well as later
engines) the procedure is torque to 30Nm, release, 30Nm, release,
then



30+5Nm.

-Max

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Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

Hi All,

Could someone please post the torque sequence for delivery valves?
This is for the 74 240D.

Thanks,

Bruce




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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I think you nailed it, M pump sounds right.  Sold the car about six years ago...

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
 No, it was a grey market car, 5 speed manual, manual windows/sunroof, 
 non-turbo engine but the injection pump was an odd ball, did not 
 exactly match any of the descriptions in the MBUSA service manual.  It 
 seemed to be an iteration just beyond the last non-turbo pump 
 described in the manual.  However, it did have the 33 spline-toothed DV's 
 with O-rings.


I was under the impression that the euros had the M pump, similar to the M 
pumps on the 60x engines here, while the US 617 engines had the MW. The only 
617 I know of here with an injection pump by Mynä Diesel has an M pump from a 
euro 617, as the Mynä modifications do not work with the MW pump's governor.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some genius decided the engine was not supposed to have them, so they took
 off the hardware to stabilize the injection lines.    You might get by with
 that for a while on the old heavy, short lines, but not with the long, light
 lines of the OM603

Like Pete A. said, why bother fussing with brittle 25-year-old plastic
bits from a parts car---all those parts are available new from Ma
Benz, and aren't too expensive.

Or you can do like I do and use good-quality zip ties and small pieces
of Sorbothane (the best vibration-absorbing material known to man,
available in small quantities from McMaster-Carr) to attach the lines
to the existing metal brackets.  Or do like Jim C. does and use scraps
of old bicycle inner tubes.

I agree strongly that you need to do SOMETHING to dampen vibration of
those lines (and a homebrew solution could definitely improve on the
way it was originally engineered, pace Dr. Booth).  I believe
excessive vibration was the cause of the failure of #6 line on my
'87---it cracked right above the connection to the IP.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part

2010-03-12 Thread Rusty Cullens

can you send me a picture of it?

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Subject: [MBZ] Unknown Part



Hi Rusty -
   I'm trying to identify a part I need  - it's part of the accelerator 
linkage and located above #5 GP.  It has a square electrical plug attached 
to the drivers side of the switch and it has two little rollers that 
contact part of the linkage that rotates as the pedal is pushed causing 
the rollers to move.  One of the rollers has a flat spot.


   It looks almost like a Thermo-tine (sp?) device.  I looked at EPC and 
the WSM without any luck.  I will ask the list in he hopes they know what 
it is.


   BTW - I just ordered a GP Relay.

Thx
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Outback Steakhouse (theres somewhere you should go when you come here, comedy 
 gold!)

Yup.  Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty
much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think.

Having been to Oz and heard some really thick accents there,
especially in Tasmania, I wince every time an Outback commercial comes
on the TV---couldn't they have gotten an actual Aussie actor to do the
voiceover, instead of an American trying (and failing pitifully) to do
the accent?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part

2010-03-12 Thread LarryT

Yes, will take one this afternoon or tomorrow.  Thx

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can you send me a picture of it?

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Subject: [MBZ] Unknown Part



Hi Rusty -
   I'm trying to identify a part I need  - it's part of the accelerator 
linkage and located above #5 GP.  It has a square electrical plug 
attached to the drivers side of the switch and it has two little rollers 
that contact part of the linkage that rotates as the pedal is pushed 
causing the rollers to move.  One of the rollers has a flat spot.


   It looks almost like a Thermo-tine (sp?) device.  I looked at EPC and 
the WSM without any luck.  I will ask the list in he hopes they know what 
it is.


   BTW - I just ordered a GP Relay.

Thx
Larry

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Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part

2010-03-12 Thread R A Bennell
WOT switch! Just get one for a Toyota. Should work fine at WOT.

Randy

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Wide open throttle switch OR idle switch, depending on application.   
On a 60x it's the idle switch that turns on the idle control system.

Peter



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[MBZ] Superturbo vids

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

AMG Dave, AKA Spudboy, put some of the old crazy Finn vids on his web site:

http://w124performance.com/movies/Mercedes/SuperTurbos/

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Frederick W Moir



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   1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo

Date: 2010-03-11, 8:11PM

Hard to find DIESEL!! 30-35 mpg! Newer tires, alternator, belt, 
radiator, hoses, glowplugs. Nice Panasonic CD player, tinted windows. 
Air blows cold. 285,000 miles. Car runs well. It did just have a recent 
transmission service, but Aamco advised that the transmission should be 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas

Does Kleb have a tranny?

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Hard to find DIESEL!! 30-35 mpg! Newer tires, alternator, belt, 
radiator, hoses, glowplugs. Nice Panasonic CD player, tinted windows. 
Air blows cold. 285,000 miles. Car runs well. It did just have a 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

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AAMCO believes all transmissions should be rebuilt by AAMCO.

Slightly scary that the car has been serviced by places like AAMCO and Instant 
Oil Change, but if they are willing to give the car away for less than I paid 
for the Morrison 2.5, I guess you can't complain.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz - $500 (Fall River)

2010-03-12 Thread Frederick W Moir



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This car runs ok, does need work, such as a transmission, a globe plug 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz - $500 (Fall River)

2010-03-12 Thread degcoast
So Fred, if I bought this would you know how to fix the 'globe plug'? 
Must be bad shape-cheapest I have ever seen a w210 diesel.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz - $500 (Fall River)

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas

Car needs a globe plug in the Twin Cities (Fall Rive/New Beige)

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz - $500 (Fall River)

2010-03-12 Thread degcoast

Maybe it's a Euro then if it needs a globe plug.

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Car needs a globe plug in the Twin Cities (Fall Rive/New Beige)

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz - $500 (Fall River)

2010-03-12 Thread Frederick W Moir

Dwight.
I can fix anything! Just give me lots of money!
Har-de-har-har.
My thought on the low price is of the dreaded Piscean Spring Perch!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

On 3/12/2010 1:42 PM, degco...@cox.net wrote:
So Fred, if I bought this would you know how to fix the 'globe plug'? 
Must be bad shape-cheapest I have ever seen a w210 diesel.

Dwight

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This car runs ok, does need work, such as a transmission, a globe 
plug and a switch control for the windows and is got some rust

White 1996 E 300D MERCEDES.

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Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:53 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:
 WOT switch! Just get one for a Toyota. Should work fine at WOT.

Because it will go to WOT whenever it feels like?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Frederick W Moir wrote:

 http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/1639950073.html to contact the

 AAMCO believes all transmissions should be rebuilt by AAMCO.


And they're unlikely to know jack about Mercedes diesel vacuum tranny
controls, so it could just be something in the vacuum system causing
the slippage.

Or you could put M-1 or Lucas trans additive in it and drive it for a
while and see if that cures it.

Seems like a steal regardless.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz - $500 (Fall River)

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

That's the cheapest rusty W210 diesel I've ever seen.
I'd be all over that if it were a 1998 turbo. (and 500 miles closer)

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Superturbo project platform?

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=pcar_id=275697904


I the W202 a decent chassis, or a mini W210?
20mpg hwy doesn't impress me, but the car looks nice. Might be fun to drop a 
hopped up 602 or 603 in it, but I'm not sure I like the fact that it weighs 
400lb more than a W201.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread degcoast
Looks just like my 90.  It too seemed to have a mildly slipping tranny 
on take off. Put Magic Elixir 1 in it and it has been fine for 50K miles 
now.  If it were closer, I'd be tempted to have a matching pair.


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.
Wickford, RI


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

Frederick W Moir wrote:


http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/1639950073.html to contact 
the


AAMCO believes all transmissions should be rebuilt by AAMCO.



And they're unlikely to know jack about Mercedes diesel vacuum tranny
controls, so it could just be something in the vacuum system causing
the slippage.

Or you could put M-1 or Lucas trans additive in it and drive it for a
while and see if that cures it.

Seems like a steal regardless.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz - $500 (Fall River)

2010-03-12 Thread degcoast

Well I can go look at it anyone wants.
I agree-I am not interested in non turbo w210.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.
Wickford, RI


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


That's the cheapest rusty W210 diesel I've ever seen.
I'd be all over that if it were a 1998 turbo. (and 500 miles closer)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part

2010-03-12 Thread R A Bennell
From what I hear lately, Toyotas work well at wide open throttle. Brakes may 
be lacking, but throttle is good.

Hard to slow a good Toyota down.

Randy who still has one old Toyota in the fleet

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:53 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:
 WOT switch! Just get one for a Toyota. Should work fine at WOT.

Because it will go to WOT whenever it feels like?

Alex



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Re: [MBZ] Superturbo project platform?

2010-03-12 Thread WILTON

Why show photos of a car different from the one described?

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Superturbo project platform?



http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=pcar_id=275697904


I the W202 a decent chassis, or a mini W210?
20mpg hwy doesn't impress me, but the car looks nice. Might be fun to drop 
a hopped up 602 or 603 in it, but I'm not sure I like the fact that it 
weighs 400lb more than a W201.


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

Outback Steakhouse (theres somewhere you should go when you come here, comedy 
gold!)


Yup.  Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty
much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think.


You forgot Paul Hogan.
Now, THIS is a knife.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NHcTM5IA4

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] loose lines

2010-03-12 Thread RELNGSON
 I believe excessive vibration was the cause of the failure of #6 line 
 on my
 '87---it cracked right above the connection to the IP.
 
Believe me, work hardening of a vibrating solid metal tube (vs flex) can 
lead to serious consequences when it breaks off. Speaking from personal 
experience.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Superturbo project platform?

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:

Why show photos of a car different from the one described?


Good point. It sure doesn't look burgundy/tan to me.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 Yup.  Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty
 much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think.

 You forgot Paul Hogan.

I didn't forget him... but that movie is nearly 25 years old (ouch!).

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Superturbo project platform?

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 I the W202 a decent chassis, or a mini W210?

Ask Roger.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] loose lines

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:35 AM,  relng...@aol.com wrote:
 I believe excessive vibration was the cause of the failure of #6 line
 on my
 '87---it cracked right above the connection to the IP.

 Believe me, work hardening of a vibrating solid metal tube (vs flex) can
 lead to serious consequences when it breaks off.

I had to look up work hardening, but that sure makes sense.  I did
notice that the cracked line when removed had little or no give, where
the new line though visually identical was very slightly flexible at
the bends.  So apparently it vibrated itself into a hard, brittle
state and then didn't need much more vibration to snap at a weak
point.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Yup.  Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty
much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think.

You forgot Paul Hogan.


I didn't forget him... but that movie is nearly 25 years old (ouch!).


Mad Max movies were 1978-85, Crocodile Dundee 86-01.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Someone must want these

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1640960411.html

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Re: [MBZ] Someone must want these

2010-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1640960411.html


AC machine maybe, but who wants a tranny flush machine hooked up to their car?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Mad Max movies were 1978-85, Crocodile Dundee 86-01.

Yeah, I know.  Maybe it's just the crowd I hang out with, but I feel
like the Max Max series is a far more enduring cultural touchstone
than the Crocodile Dundee movies.  I remembered Paul Hogan, but I had
forgotten about That's not a knife... THIS is a knife! until you
posted.  But nobody talks or writes about a movie set in a
post-apocalyptic, post-civilization dog-eat-dog world without
referencing The Road Warrior (Max Max 2 to you, Hendrik).

Alex

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[MBZ] Saving CV joints

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
If I have a CV joint with a boot that has just started to crack---the
joint presumably is still good, as there's still a lot of grease
inside the boot and the joint isn't making any funny noises---what is
the best way to protect the joint if the car must be driven before the
new boot arrives?  I'm thinking of wrapping a scrap of heavy plastic
painter's tarp around the cracked boot and fastening at both ends with
zip ties.  Thoughts?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Someone must want these

2010-03-12 Thread LWB250
I've got a coolant flush/recovery machine that I don't think has ever been 
used.  It's in the back of our white room at the shop.

I've been tempted to put it on CL to see if there are any takers, but I have no 
idea what it's worth.

Dan



--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Someone must want these
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 2:55 PM
 Rich Thomas wrote:
  http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1640960411.html
 
 AC machine maybe, but who wants a tranny flush machine
 hooked up to their car?
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Saving CV joints

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas
How about duct tape?  There is some kind that is waterproof I think.  I 
would think the plastic would just shred off.


--R

On 3/12/2010 3:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

If I have a CV joint with a boot that has just started to crack---the
joint presumably is still good, as there's still a lot of grease
inside the boot and the joint isn't making any funny noises---what is
the best way to protect the joint if the car must be driven before the
new boot arrives?  I'm thinking of wrapping a scrap of heavy plastic
painter's tarp around the cracked boot and fastening at both ends with
zip ties.  Thoughts?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Saving CV joints

2010-03-12 Thread LWB250
I would clean the outside of the boot around the cracked area aqs best as 
possible and put a piece of duct tape or something on it.  If you're only 
talking about days (as opposed to weeks) until replacement, nothing 
catastrophic is going to happen unless you're out off-roading with it every 
day.

Just my $0.02.

Dan


--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Saving CV joints
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 3:33 PM
 If I have a CV joint with a boot that
 has just started to crack---the
 joint presumably is still good, as there's still a lot of
 grease
 inside the boot and the joint isn't making any funny
 noises---what is
 the best way to protect the joint if the car must be driven
 before the
 new boot arrives?  I'm thinking of wrapping a scrap of
 heavy plastic
 painter's tarp around the cracked boot and fastening at
 both ends with
 zip ties.  Thoughts?
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] Saving CV joints

2010-03-12 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Do you have the special $400 press for assembling the metal can portion
of the boot?  Without the tool, I remember someone reporting success
assembling the can with vice grips and such, but I think that it will be
a tough row to hoe.

-Max 

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Subject: [MBZ] Saving CV joints

If I have a CV joint with a boot that has just started to crack---the
joint presumably is still good, as there's still a lot of grease inside
the boot and the joint isn't making any funny noises---what is the best
way to protect the joint if the car must be driven before the new boot
arrives?  I'm thinking of wrapping a scrap of heavy plastic painter's
tarp around the cracked boot and fastening at both ends with zip ties.
Thoughts?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT For you mac daddies

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas
I got Netflix working on the macbook, but downloading the Silverlight 
plugin did not take in daughter's user instance, I had to quit that user 
and log in to the new one I set up, and started FF and it ran fine.  I 
think that is kinda weird as it should be running the same executable, 
but maybe profiles are stored differently for different users?  I don't 
know enough about mac file structure to see if I can patch one profile 
over or something, I guess it really doesn't matter except for the 
pissoff factor.


Plugged it into the Samsung LCD panel with a DVI-HDMI cable, I had 
twiddled with display settings before so it all worked fine.  Streaming 
seemed pretty good, there was only one stutter at one point, that might 
have been the file and not the stream.


Watched Aguirre The Wrath of God.  Was a very poor transfer, sound was 
bad but since it was in German with English subtitles it didn't really 
matter, and was in 4:3 for some reason not the original wide screen, but 
it was still an intense movie.  I had not seen if for ages so was fun to 
revisit it.  Will have to find something else tonight and see if a newer 
flick looks better.


--R (becoming a mac daddy I guess, or at least mackin)

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Re: [MBZ] loose lines

2010-03-12 Thread Peter Frederick

They rub through as well, this is also a bad thing.

Diesel fuel everywhere.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

2010-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
I was not asking for the plastic clips.  I was asking for the CADMIUM 
PLATED STEEL tabs the plastic clips attach to (on the back 3 cyl). 
The metal tabs are bolted to the intake manifold.


I also need the CADMIUM PLATED STEEL clip that is bolted under the 
manifold to hold the back 3 lines.


I can't replace the plastic clips without something for them to clip 
onto.  The original post sez: ... looking for the 3 metal tabs the 
are bolted to the intake manifold,   Note the word: METAL



Private to Max:  Thanks Max, I will wait.

Seems to me that the plastic bits were cooked and brittle on my 
300SDL, better to start with new ones from a TRusty sort of fellow.





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- Original Message -
From: Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:50:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

I have a spare intake but don't remember if those bits are still
attached, I'll take a look later but I won't be able to mail until maybe
Saturday or maybe a week from Saturday. I'll let you know.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:52 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OM603 Bits needed

Someone took off bits from the engine in my SDL. I am looking for the 3
metal tabs the are bolted to the intake manifold, and the plastic clips
for the back 3 injection lines clip into them. There is also a metal
clip that is supposed to bolt under the manifold and holds the back
three lines. I need that also.

Some genius decided the engine was not supposed to have them, so they
took off the hardware to stabilize the injection lines. You might
get by with that for a while on the old heavy, short lines, but not with
the long, light lines of the OM603

If anyone (Kaleb?) has these around on a spare engine, I sure would like
to have them on my engine. Send me an email off-list.

TIA
126die...@gmail.com

1987 300SDL

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Re: [MBZ] work hardening

2010-03-12 Thread RELNGSON
 ...I had to look up work hardening, but that sure makes sense.  I did
 notice that the cracked line when removed had little or no give,..
 
I could have clarified that the tube will break off in a fitting that is 
not vibrating. I have to say that in my case it was a copper line but I would 
think aluminum would be subject to the same failure although perhaps in a 
different number of bending cycles.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Spork plugs (380 SL)

2010-03-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Today it's a lot warmer outside, about 44 °F; somewhat more pleasant.  
I looked for C144, and found it buried underneath the washer reservoir. 
 It's a big fat three-pin plastic barrel connector, and the brittle 
alignment ears finished breaking off as I played with it.  With the 
ears missing it can be connected wrong if you're not careful, so I 
aligned to the sites of the missing ears and used a Sharpie to mark an 
arrow on the barrel that matches one molded into the plug, which should 
help.  I measured the switch continuity, and found that both WOT and 
Idle settings worked correctly.  On the engine side the Common and Idle 
pins were grounded, as they should be.  (One hard ground, one grounded 
by the cold-oil sensor.)  The resistance to ground of the Idle pin was 
23 kΩ, for whatever that's worth.


I rigged a wire from Pin 3 of the engine diagnostic connector into the 
passenger compartment so that I can watch the lambda valve duty cycle 
as I drive.  (This is the BR/GN wire [ground switched] from the valve, 
not the BK/RD/WT [positive feed from the fuel pump relay].)  I put the 
Fluke 87 in the car, as it has a backlight.


On the way to work the Fluke 87 said 70% during warmup.  While driving 
it was 65–82%, mostly hovered around 70–75%.  Idling was 75–79%, I saw 
it get to 85% at the end.  Idle RPM was lower, down around where it 
ought to be.  This is pretty rare on this car, in my experience so far. 
 I wonder if messing with the WOT/Idle switch connector affected this?


On the way home I again saw high duty cycles.  (Assuming that these are 
to be measured against ground and not across the valve, which would 
invert these numbers. [i.e. Wednesday's numbers.])  I checked the other 
vital statistics, and the RMS voltage (referenced to ground) was around 
6.5–7.5 V, probably OK, but the frequency was very suspect: usually 
around 4,400 Hz, but ranging from 2,500–5,500 Hz!  Some of my reading 
indicates that the 70 Hz range is more what it ought to be.  I 
definitely think that it's time to haul that engine computer out of 
there and have a look at it.


-- Jim



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[MBZ] Subject: Saving CV joints

2010-03-12 Thread RDeafBoy
I used Lexel clear sealant by Sashco Co[Some lumber stores  carry 
it]Mine were cracked pretty bad  i did it 5 yrs ago  it's  still holding 
great .[ going to install new axles this spring]
 
   I cleaned  the boots with lacquer thinner ,then  applied Lexel into the 
cracks dipping my finger into the lac thin to  work it in. Using the caulk 
gun means you have to roll the car so that you get  all around the boots.Coat 
a thin layer all the way around. Using the lacquer  thinner does not hurt 
the boots so use it so the stuff does not stick to your  fingers and work it 
around  Lexel is used as airplane  windshield adhesive so it is good 
stuff.
 
Bob 
 1983 240D
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[MBZ] Interesting MBs

2010-03-12 Thread OK Don
This looks enticing, if it was only closer ---
*http://tinyurl.com/yhd3rmx*
also -
*http://tinyurl.com/ykenpam*

A bit rusty, but still cool vehicles.
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Re: [MBZ] Ign Switch / GP Relay / Preglow Light (Was delivery valveproject)

2010-03-12 Thread Redghost
Cleo is a 95 with the 606 engine. Not sure where the failures are, but  
the gremlins are busy and electrical stuff is migrating south


clay

On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:46 AM, LarryT wrote:

Clay wrote not looking forward to replacing the biodegradable  
wiring harness


Is it the engine compartment WH or the one for the whole car?

I was hoping this problem was more common in the later MBs - like  
mid 90s - now you indicate it the early 90s like my '91 300D!


Darn...

LarryT
91300D

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ign Switch / GP Relay / Preglow Light (Was  
delivery valveproject)


No clue for your application, but I finally figured out what the  
lamp  out indicator was doing in the E300D.   Since there is  
afterglow  happening and there are no bulbs that have died, there  
is a short in  the wiring that makes the bulb out indicator light  
up until the post  glow is done.


I am not looking forward to replacing the biodegradable wiring  
harness


clay

On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:58 PM, LarryT wrote:


Hi Gang --
 I've been driving the W-124 to try and understand when and why  
the pre-glow light is coming on once in a while.  I drove about 1  
mi.  when it came on - I needed to turn so I hit the turn-signals  
and  brakes and the light blinked and went out momentarily then  
came on  again.   It repeated this behavior - the light came on,  
I'd hit the  brake a couple of times and the pre-glow light would  
go out, then  come back on after a couple of seconds and after  
20-30 seconds it  went out and stayed out for a few minutes.  It  
did this 2 or 3 times.


 While the ignition switch is not new, I am leaning toward the GP   
Relay being bad - I have been reading the procedure and hopefully   
will test it soon.   But I think I will replace the ign switch  
anyway.


 I need help finding the WSM procedure dealing with the ign.  
switch  - I have looked at all of the Gr 54 pdf's without seeing  
any dealing  with RR or testing the ignition switch.


 Anyone know where it might be?

Thanks!
LarryT
91 300D
W124

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Re: [MBZ] OT For you mac daddies

2010-03-12 Thread Redghost

Thank you Tim, I bow down to you

clay

On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Tim C wrote:


Clay,

http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/faqs-how-tos/10325-silverlight-3-0-works-same-fix-2-0-a.html

And poof it just worked. :)

-Tim

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net  
wrote:

Tim,

What is the hack for hackintosh?  I finally have mine up and  
running on all

cylinders but the nutflix thing just will not play well.

clay


On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Tim C. wrote:


See, on my wife's hackintosh (10.5) inside of 15 minutes I installed
Silverlight (had to convince it to go by deleting the processor- 
check

routine) and had Netflix up in one Google. Maybe it's just that the
hackintosh folks are more DIY and tend to publish their results.

Meanwhile, the real Macs in the basement languish, though I did  
get the G4

running 10.4 so my daughter could play Wendy's I-Spy game.

I've been really happy with the PS3s as media endpoints and PlayOn  
as a
streaming server, by the way; any desire for an AppleTV is long  
gone.


Best,
-Tim
who keeps his MAC address sequestered



--- Original Message ---
From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: 10-03-10, 12:53:31
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT For you mac daddies

It's a Netflix issue.  I've been watching the Netflix/mac situation


closely, as I have considered buying an AppleTV.  Until content  
other than

iTunes is available for purchase/download, I'm not interested.


Netflix seems to have ported some nice apps for the game  
consoles, but


their PC apps have been less than stellar from what I've heard.


Dan



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 



wrote:



From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT For you mac daddies
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 10:14 AM
I am new to the mac thing, having
repaired my daughters flooded macbook and then fooling with
it a bit.  I tried the other evening to load up Netflix
on it, and it kept telling me it couldn't work because I had
an old OS (didn't) and old version of Firefox
(didn't).  Then I discovered I needed to load some MSFT
viewer as a plug-in, which I did about 10 times and it
wouldn't take.  Another hour or so digging with google
to try to find out why this damn thing wouldn't show a movie
(Netflix help was useless), I found an obscure procedure
wherein I needed to go create some new user profile and then
try it again, which worked, finally.  I am not sure who
is the bigger idiot in this exercise, Netflix or Apple (not
me) but it was a PITA.   I did not go back to
the original user profile to see if by doing the download in
the new user took in the original user (it was just
loading a plug-in to FF and I guess Safari, nothing very
exotic).  So 2 hours of screwing around with something
about mac's peculiarities finally got me to be able to see a
netflix movie at midnight by which time it was time to go to
bed.

They are so easy  Windows is abysmal (OK, that is
true, but I can't see where mac is particularly better,
especially on some simple aspect like loading a plug-in in a
browser)  THough I will admit that plugging it into the
Samsung LCD TV with a DVI-HDMI cable took just a few
minutes of fooling with output resolutions to get a half
decent pic on the TV, which is what we wanted to watch a
movie on.

--R



On 3/10/2010 10:02 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net


wrote:



http://charleston.craigslist.org/sys/1637027253.html


Those Lisas are worth a few hundred bucks apiece at


least on fleaBay.


Probably way too heavy to be worth shipping,


though.   Somebody local


should pick them up.

If I had one I'd keep it around as a curiosity just to


show people and


get all curmudgeonly about its document-centric


interface.  See, this


is what a GUI is supposed to be.  Harrumph!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Unknown Part

2010-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Its for the egr stuff

LarryT wrote:

Hi Rusty -
   I'm trying to identify a part I need  - it's part of the 
accelerator linkage and located above #5 GP.  It has a square 
electrical plug attached to the drivers side of the switch and it has 
two little rollers that contact part of the linkage that rotates as 
the pedal is pushed causing the rollers to move.  One of the rollers 
has a flat spot.


   It looks almost like a Thermo-tine (sp?) device.  I looked at EPC 
and the WSM without any luck.  I will ask the list in he hopes they 
know what it is.


   BTW - I just ordered a GP Relay.

Thx
Larry

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Re: [MBZ] 400E question for Craig

2010-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

naw, you dont have to, somebody already had pics posted I looked at.

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:35:28 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

  

Its the same car as you have basically.



I can take some pictures on Saturday, if that will help.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, too bad its not closer to me., well, where is this bonita springs 
anyway?


Rich Thomas wrote:

Does Kleb have a tranny?

--R

On 3/12/2010 1:20 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:



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Subject: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:19:41 -0800 (PST)
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fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting.

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   1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo

Date: 2010-03-11, 8:11PM

Hard to find DIESEL!! 30-35 mpg! Newer tires, alternator, belt, 
radiator, hoses, glowplugs. Nice Panasonic CD player, tinted windows. 
Air blows cold. 285,000 miles. Car runs well. It did just have a 
recent transmission service, but Aamco advised that the transmission 
should be rebuilt because of slipping. Good car for parts or fix it 
and convert it into a veggie oil burner! Sold as is.


   * Location: Bonita Springs
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Re: [MBZ] 400E question for Craig

2010-03-12 Thread OK Don
So, are you getting them tomorrow?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 naw, you dont have to, somebody already had pics posted I looked at.


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Re: [MBZ] 400E question for Craig

2010-03-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:49:38 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 naw, you dont have to, somebody already had pics posted I looked at.

So where are the pictures, that I might look at them, too?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread OK Don
Florida?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 yes, too bad its not closer to me., well, where is this bonita springs
 anyway?

 Rich Thomas wrote:

  Does Kleb have a tranny?


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:19 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 yes, too bad its not closer to me., well, where is this bonita springs 
 anyway?

Well, if you click on the fort myers craigslist at the left of the
chain at the top of the window, you get a page that says,

  ft myers / SW florida


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 400E question for Craig

2010-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well, I made the guy an offer on the assumption I could go down to 
dallas haul one back drive one back, but the one has its PS hose (not 
sure which) completely broken so would either have to attempt repair on 
site, or make 2 trips.  I emailed the guy and said I would take them but 
would have to be less as I would have to make 2 trips back and forth to 
Dallas.


OK Don wrote:

So, are you getting them tomorrow?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

  

naw, you dont have to, somebody already had pics posted I looked at.




  




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Re: [MBZ] 400E question for Craig

2010-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://www.w124performance.com/images/M119/PS_pumps/standard_pump/

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:49:38 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

  

naw, you dont have to, somebody already had pics posted I looked at.



So where are the pictures, that I might look at them, too?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

ah ha

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:19 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

  
yes, too bad its not closer to me., well, where is this bonita springs 
anyway?



Well, if you click on the fort myers craigslist at the left of the
chain at the top of the window, you get a page that says,

  ft myers / SW florida


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas

Send me the tranny and I'll go get the car.

--R

On 3/12/2010 10:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yes, too bad its not closer to me., well, where is this bonita springs 
anyway?


Rich Thomas wrote:

Does Kleb have a tranny?

--R

On 3/12/2010 1:20 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:



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Subject: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:19:41 -0800 (PST)
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   1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo

Date: 2010-03-11, 8:11PM

Hard to find DIESEL!! 30-35 mpg! Newer tires, alternator, belt, 
radiator, hoses, glowplugs. Nice Panasonic CD player, tinted 
windows. Air blows cold. 285,000 miles. Car runs well. It did just 
have a recent transmission service, but Aamco advised that the 
transmission should be rebuilt because of slipping. Good car for 
parts or fix it and convert it into a veggie oil burner! Sold as is.


   * Location: Bonita Springs
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[MBZ] HEY LARRY!!! Did you ever look at 46-8010????

2010-03-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:22:33 -0700 Craig McCluskey
diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:16:22 -0500 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  Thx Jim -
  Have you seen it in the WSM?  Couldn't find it.  I also looked in he
  EPC without any luck...
 
 You didn't read the email I sent last evening:
 
  Have a look at 46-8010.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)

2010-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

then you will drive it back here?

Rich Thomas wrote:

Send me the tranny and I'll go get the car.

--R

On 3/12/2010 10:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yes, too bad its not closer to me., well, where is this bonita 
springs anyway?


Rich Thomas wrote:

Does Kleb have a tranny?

--R

On 3/12/2010 1:20 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:



 Original Message 
Subject: 1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo - $950 (Bonita Springs)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:19:41 -0800 (PST)
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   1993 Mercedes 300D 2.5 Turbo

Date: 2010-03-11, 8:11PM

Hard to find DIESEL!! 30-35 mpg! Newer tires, alternator, belt, 
radiator, hoses, glowplugs. Nice Panasonic CD player, tinted 
windows. Air blows cold. 285,000 miles. Car runs well. It did just 
have a recent transmission service, but Aamco advised that the 
transmission should be rebuilt because of slipping. Good car for 
parts or fix it and convert it into a veggie oil burner! Sold as is.


   * Location: Bonita Springs
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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve torque

2010-03-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:23:42 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
  No, it was a grey market car, 5 speed manual, manual windows/sunroof,
  non-turbo engine but the injection pump was an odd ball, did not
  exactly match any of the descriptions in the MBUSA service manual.
  It seemed to be an iteration just beyond the last non-turbo pump
  described in the manual.  However, it did have the 33 spline-toothed
  DV's with O-rings.

 I was under the impression that the euros had the M pump, similar to
 the M pumps on the 60x engines here, while the US 617 engines had the
 MW.

The injection pump on our '82 240D/3.0 with an '84 Euro engine has the
splined injectors. (BTW, do not waste your money buying the Sir Tools
tools for them; their tools are junk.)

I thought the tag on it said it's a MW pump, but the tag (stamping into
the aluminum, actually) reads,

  PES5M55C320RS108-1
011 35253243
0 400 075 991
  617 070 4301 ER 0002

According to the Service Manual, Engines 615, 616, 617.91, page 07.1-001,
it's an M/RSF.

Does this take the multi-step torque procedure?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 400E question for Craig

2010-03-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:57:12 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 http://www.w124performance.com/images/M119/PS_pumps/standard_pump/

Ah, Dave Meimann's pictures. I saw them when I was trying to figure out
how to get the bracket off the front of the engine. They don't show the
hydraulic lines' connections to the steering box (which is what I thought
you said you found).


http://www.w124performance.com/images/M119/PS_pumps/standard_pump/mounting_bolts2_rear.jpg

says,
   These are the two 6mm socket-head bolts which hold the pump to
the bracket. It helps to remove the plastic air duct to the motor
mount for better access and visibility. These bolts are easier to
remove than the bolts which fasten the bracket to the engine
block.

I agree with removing the plastic air duct. In fact, removing it is
mandatory. I found removing the bolts that hold the bracket to the block
to be much easier than removing the ones that hold the pump to the
bracket, however.



http://www.w124performance.com/images/M119/PS_pumps/standard_pump/mounting_bolts4_rear.jpg

says,

These are two of the three bolts which fasten the bracket to the
 engine block. The third bolt is at the bottom center.

This is wrong. the third bolt is at the far right of the bracket casting
and is a through-hole. This bolt goes into the engine block from the
front. The two, threaded bolt holes with fingers pointing at them are the
ones into which bolts thread from the rear. The stud at the bottom
fastens the hydraulic fluid return line that plugs into the hole up on
the cannister.



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[MBZ] Sudden Acceleration Revisited

2010-03-12 Thread Jerry Herrman
With your collective indulgence, I'd like to re-open the discussion of the 
topic  sudden acceleration. You may recall in mid february I opened the 
discussion with this submission in vol. 51 issue 39, or thereabouts:

(   So yesterday I heard what I believe was a public service announcement (by 
some automotive   engineer, I think) on the radio saying that the least 
powerful brakes are going to easily overpower the most powerful engine.This 
suggests that applying your brakes firmly in an unexpected acceleration 
situation would prevent a catastrophe.)

Responses from subscribers to this forum suggested that applying the brakes 
firmly and immediately to stop the car would be successful, regardless of the 
power output of the engine. Applying the brakes to merely slow down the 
vehicle, most concluded, would likely result in overheating the brakes  to the 
point that they could be ineffective.

The recent report of a Prius driver's scary struggle with sudden unexpected 
acceleration raises this topic again.

I am taking no position on this issue. I am asking questions to better 
understand what is happening.

Here are several questions that circulate through my mind.

If a driver were to experience this phenomenon in a powerful car whose speed 
has gone well above 100 mph, would there be any hope of stopping the car using 
only the brakes?

Can a Prius whose driver is trying to brake the car continue to accelerate? How 
powerful is the Prius engine?

Can all cars be shifted easily into neutral in the event of this emergency?

Is there any down side to turning off the engine in this situation?

Having driven a 240D for many years, sudden acceleration sounded rather 
attractive . Now, not so much.

 

Jerry

1982 240D 60+ horsepower 



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