Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting ACC3 into ACC2? and other w123 questions
Looking at the epc, I'd guess it would be almost everything heat/AC related that is under the dash... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 21:45, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote: Hi, I was excited that we finally got a you-pull yard, and it's almost on my way to work! So now I have good odds of being late. :) Unfortunately they don't post a list of cars in the yard, but they are pretty well organized. I stopped by this morning and found a well- kept 300D turbo that wasn't much picked-over. Of particular interest to me, this car has the horizontal row ACC (which I think means the tolerable ACC3) versus my 300D with vertical row ACC (I think that's evil Chrysler ACC2 ?) which at the moment still kind of works. Nonetheless in the way of planning, this leads me to the questions: - Can I replace ACC2 with ACC3? Unwired tools is out of my price range for this car. - If so, what parts do I need to pull? On other miscellany, is it possible to swap upholstery on seat- bottoms? Any radiator-pulling gotchas? Anything else I will wish I had pulled? :) Thanks, -Tim who is excited and a little overwhelmed to have a you-pull nearby ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
If you only want to test up/down, then the plug is sufficient. If you want radio reception too, then you will need to screw the coax cable connector into the mast base... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 22:42, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the seminar. Fortunately for me, the antenna is a spare I got for free so I can do as you suggest. Do I need to just plug it in, or should I also screw in the cable from the car's wiring harness that attaches to the base of the the mast?? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:47 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Andrew, An antenna from a 123 sedan WILL fit as long as the main body of the antenna motor is the same as the one from the sedan then it will work in the TD. You will need to exchange the pieces at the top where it meets the body, both the inside and the outside. If for some reason you can't get the inside pieces at the top off (some will just slide right off) then you can exchange the whole mast body holder on the top of the antenna motor box. It's just held in with one small screw which you remove and then pull the tube out of the box after taking the mast out of the tube. Make sure you get the screw back into the hole in the mast holder tube when you push the tube back into the box. From your description of the problem I think you may have a problem with the clutch on the retraction/extension wheel. Just take the whole thing out and take the cover off the motor box and plug the power back in and you will see what moves and what doesn't. There is a wheel in there with a clutch in the center which connects the motor to the wheel and arms on the wheel that click over a counter on a switch system to shut the motor off after a set number of rotations of the wheel. If the clutch slips too much the nut will turn with the gears and shaft but the wheel will not turn so the antenna and the counter on the switch is not moved and the motor keeps running. Oh, you will need to get the antenna into the full down position in order to get the unit out of the car. If you are good enough at contortions you may even be able to do the whole thing in place but for me it was easier to take it out. When you get the cover off the motor box you will see the wheel with a big nut in the center and a tab bent up to keep the nut from moving. Bend the tab down and tighten the nut 2-3 flats, NOT TURNS, and bend the tab back up. Connect the electrical plug and test to see if the nut is tight enough for the wheel to move right. If not and the antenna still sticks and doesn't move without a little help then go through the whole process again to tighten the nut an extra flat and test again. You don't have to put the cover back or the whole thing into place in the car just hold it and have someone operate the key. Leave the antenna switch in the full up position and the radio on. Do not tighten the nut more then 1 flat at a time after the first adjustment or you may get it too tight and burn out the motor if for some reason the antenna gets hard to move later. While you are in there make sure that the pinch wheel at the bottom left of the wheel is moving right and maybe give it just a drop of oil at the pivot and on the center of the pinch wheel. Just went through this whole thing a couple of months back after replacing the antenna mast on my 83 300TD. Now if I can find a new suspension pump in the junk yard I will be in hog heaven. Manfred Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:39:29 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
[MBZ] 300 TD
Hi Manfred - how is the 300TD project coming along? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accelerator gas strut
Yes-during the discussion a few months ago about Curt's failed one on his later 240D,(82?) I discovered that my 78 doesn't have one as I was going to replace it. Someone-Fred I think pined out that MB had made a retrofit for earlier 240D's. Rusty said they are called 'dashpot shocks My 240D bucks badly at just the right points-made me wonder if 50 years of shifting cars and tucks had gone down the drain-it is tricky to shift and rpm it just right so it doesn't buck. Now that I know it's not me, I just finesse it. FWIW Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Accelerator gas strut What the hell does this strut do anyway? Helps prevent bucking. It does, too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Antenna
glugging acetone into it from below, let it soak in then work the mast in and out by hand. Hi Jim - Yeah, I think that's what it needs - complete removal, detailed cleaning and check the gearbox for proper operation. I checked the manual and found 8231.pdf to contain info saying to clean the mast with cleaning pad (looks like a standard Hirschmann cleaning pad) then wipe with clean cloth. I suspect the antenna has gunk (technical term) in the connections so as Jim and others are probably right that it should come off for cleaning. I wonder if I should replace the inner tracking thingie when I'm in there? Hmmm... Thx for all the help gang -- LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto Antenna I have cleaned it really well - but with it on the car - not removed. Would that make a difference? Always did for me. Try taking your 'clean' antenna mast out and glugging acetone into it from below, let it soak in then work the mast in and out by hand. See how much crap oozes out along the segments. Try that 20-30 times, or until it starts coming out clean. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Getting down into bottom-feeding range
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1716468938.html 1998 Mercedes ML - $4100 (Mount Pleasant) This is a 1998 Mercedes Ml-320 with approx. 161000 miles. It is in really good condition and has all the extras including heated seats. Call for a showing 843-514-4001 Serious inquires only ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting ACC3 into ACC2? and other w123 questions
I bought the unwired tools product and have been very satisfied. Though the only thing that it does not do is operate the fresh air vent. Otherwise nice product. Douglas -- From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting ACC3 into ACC2? and other w123 questions Looking at the epc, I'd guess it would be almost everything heat/AC related that is under the dash... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 21:45, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote: Hi, I was excited that we finally got a you-pull yard, and it's almost on my way to work! So now I have good odds of being late. :) Unfortunately they don't post a list of cars in the yard, but they are pretty well organized. I stopped by this morning and found a well- kept 300D turbo that wasn't much picked-over. Of particular interest to me, this car has the horizontal row ACC (which I think means the tolerable ACC3) versus my 300D with vertical row ACC (I think that's evil Chrysler ACC2 ?) which at the moment still kind of works. Nonetheless in the way of planning, this leads me to the questions: - Can I replace ACC2 with ACC3? Unwired tools is out of my price range for this car. - If so, what parts do I need to pull? On other miscellany, is it possible to swap upholstery on seat- bottoms? Any radiator-pulling gotchas? Anything else I will wish I had pulled? :) Thanks, -Tim who is excited and a little overwhelmed to have a you-pull nearby ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
Yeah, I sort of figured that out maybe 10 seconds after hitting the send button. It's nice to be able to at least attempt to fix this myself. One of my (in-car) 300TD antennas is making a noise when the mast approaches its maximum extent, but not while lowering when (or after) shutting down. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:25 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If you only want to test up/down, then the plug is sufficient. If you want radio reception too, then you will need to screw the coax cable connector into the mast base... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 22:42, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the seminar. Fortunately for me, the antenna is a spare I got for free so I can do as you suggest. Do I need to just plug it in, or should I also screw in the cable from the car's wiring harness that attaches to the base of the the mast?? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:47 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Andrew, An antenna from a 123 sedan WILL fit as long as the main body of the antenna motor is the same as the one from the sedan then it will work in the TD. You will need to exchange the pieces at the top where it meets the body, both the inside and the outside. If for some reason you can't get the inside pieces at the top off (some will just slide right off) then you can exchange the whole mast body holder on the top of the antenna motor box. It's just held in with one small screw which you remove and then pull the tube out of the box after taking the mast out of the tube. Make sure you get the screw back into the hole in the mast holder tube when you push the tube back into the box. From your description of the problem I think you may have a problem with the clutch on the retraction/extension wheel. Just take the whole thing out and take the cover off the motor box and plug the power back in and you will see what moves and what doesn't. There is a wheel in there with a clutch in the center which connects the motor to the wheel and arms on the wheel that click over a counter on a switch system to shut the motor off after a set number of rotations of the wheel. If the clutch slips too much the nut will turn with the gears and shaft but the wheel will not turn so the antenna and the counter on the switch is not moved and the motor keeps running. Oh, you will need to get the antenna into the full down position in order to get the unit out of the car. If you are good enough at contortions you may even be able to do the whole thing in place but for me it was easier to take it out. When you get the cover off the motor box you will see the wheel with a big nut in the center and a tab bent up to keep the nut from moving. Bend the tab down and tighten the nut 2-3 flats, NOT TURNS, and bend the tab back up. Connect the electrical plug and test to see if the nut is tight enough for the wheel to move right. If not and the antenna still sticks and doesn't move without a little help then go through the whole process again to tighten the nut an extra flat and test again. You don't have to put the cover back or the whole thing into place in the car just hold it and have someone operate the key. Leave the antenna switch in the full up position and the radio on. Do not tighten the nut more then 1 flat at a time after the first adjustment or you may get it too tight and burn out the motor if for some reason the antenna gets hard to move later. While you are in there make sure that the pinch wheel at the bottom left of the wheel is moving right and maybe give it just a drop of oil at the pivot and on the center of the pinch wheel. Just went through this whole thing a couple of months back after replacing the antenna mast on my 83 300TD. Now if I can find a new suspension pump in the junk yard I will be in hog heaven. Manfred Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:39:29 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting ACC3 into ACC2? and other w123 questions
It would be better to have the donor car next to your car. I would guess that the best way is to remove, as John says, everything heat/AC related under the dash, including the dash wiring harness, and the parts under the hood, and the engine compartment wiring harness. You would have to note the positions of the components and label all the wiring connections. It would be a good time to replace the dash pad also, as you would have the dash stripped nearly enough to replace the pad. It is probably easier to change the evap in a 124. That is considered a bear of a job. Yes, you can change the upholstery on the seats. Looking at the epc, I'd guess it would be almost everything heat/AC related that is under the dash... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 21:45, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote: Hi, I was excited that we finally got a you-pull yard, and it's almost on my way to work! So now I have good odds of being late. :) Unfortunately they don't post a list of cars in the yard, but they are pretty well organized. I stopped by this morning and found a well-kept 300D turbo that wasn't much picked-over. Of particular interest to me, this car has the horizontal row ACC (which I think means the tolerable ACC3) versus my 300D with vertical row ACC (I think that's evil Chrysler ACC2 ?) which at the moment still kind of works. Nonetheless in the way of planning, this leads me to the questions: - Can I replace ACC2 with ACC3? Unwired tools is out of my price range for this car. - If so, what parts do I need to pull? On other miscellany, is it possible to swap upholstery on seat-bottoms? Any radiator-pulling gotchas? Anything else I will wish I had pulled? :) Thanks, -Tim who is excited and a little overwhelmed to have a you-pull nearby ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
We're looking for a new refrigerator to replace a 10 year old Maytag side-by-side, which was about $1200 in 1999. A very similar model from Whirlpool is now about $700, and the latest, greatest, all the bells and whistles model is well over $2400, so the inflation argument could go either direction WRT refrigerators. I'm thinking that refrigerator prices have dropped by about 40% since 1999. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Prices rising? Are y'all seeing prices rising? I was in Grand Forks ND yesterday. My good wife loves Kohl's and we don't have them here so we have to go south once a month so she can get another purse. May need to build on to the house in order to store them soon. In any event, I bought 4 trailer tires mounted on wheels in Menards on March 17 for $44 each. Yesterday, the same things were $54. Quite a hike in a bit over a month. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel
Does anyone KNOW the factory spec for 0-62 mph in a '95 E300 Diesel? Given that the HP and torque is less than an OM603, it will be slower than 11 seconds but how much is the key. My car seems to have great power higher in the RPM band, but it's a little less powerful down low. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel The 210 turbo is sub 9 seconds, and will walk all over the E320. The 0-15 time is bad on the td, but the 20-80 time is good! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 16:53, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: John Reames wrote: That sounds a wee bit optimistic... The turbo 606 units are intercooled... The turbo 606 is about 175 hp and 250 lb-ft of torque. I think the turbo 603, were more like 145hp and 200 lb-ft, and the na 606 was more like 135 hp and 155 lb-ft... But those are guesstimates from memory... That sounds about right, give or take a couple of hp. I've got to think a W210 with 175hp would be slower than a W201 with 170hp and a stick shift. I think my 190E 2.3-16v was something like 7.5-8 seconds 0-60 according to Road and Track. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
And it will last 60% as long. --R On 4/30/2010 10:32 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: We're looking for a new refrigerator to replace a 10 year old Maytag side-by-side, which was about $1200 in 1999. A very similar model from Whirlpool is now about $700, and the latest, greatest, all the bells and whistles model is well over $2400, so the inflation argument could go either direction WRT refrigerators. I'm thinking that refrigerator prices have dropped by about 40% since 1999. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Prices rising? Are y'all seeing prices rising? I was in Grand Forks ND yesterday. My good wife loves Kohl's and we don't have them here so we have to go south once a month so she can get another purse. May need to build on to the house in order to store them soon. In any event, I bought 4 trailer tires mounted on wheels in Menards on March 17 for $44 each. Yesterday, the same things were $54. Quite a hike in a bit over a month. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Does anyone KNOW the factory spec for 0-62 mph in a '95 E300 Diesel? I didn't find that, but I did find a couple of 2.5 Cheap Classe cars of interest. Makes me want a 605.960 all the more, it looks like that engine was the equal of the 603 turbo. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=7370 http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=109120 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel
Max, Even though the Nitske I have goes to 95, I can find any listings for E300 Diesel. Maybe I missed something but I looked couple times. Only 320E as late 124's. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel Does anyone KNOW the factory spec for 0-62 mph in a '95 E300 Diesel? Given that the HP and torque is less than an OM603, it will be slower than 11 seconds but how much is the key. My car seems to have great power higher in the RPM band, but it's a little less powerful down low. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel The 210 turbo is sub 9 seconds, and will walk all over the E320. The 0-15 time is bad on the td, but the 20-80 time is good! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 16:53, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: John Reames wrote: That sounds a wee bit optimistic... The turbo 606 units are intercooled... The turbo 606 is about 175 hp and 250 lb-ft of torque. I think the turbo 603, were more like 145hp and 200 lb-ft, and the na 606 was more like 135 hp and 155 lb-ft... But those are guesstimates from memory... That sounds about right, give or take a couple of hp. I've got to think a W210 with 175hp would be slower than a W201 with 170hp and a stick shift. I think my 190E 2.3-16v was something like 7.5-8 seconds 0-60 according to Road and Track. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting ACC3 into ACC2? and other w123 questions
Wouldn't it be cheaper simply to purchase the model you want? I have seen a lot of decent 300D turbos on the market for under $2k, and the price trend is down, not up. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It would be better to have the donor car next to your car. I would guess that the best way is to remove, as John says, everything heat/AC related under the dash, including the dash wiring harness, and the parts under the hood, and the engine compartment wiring harness. You would have to note the positions of the components and label all the wiring connections. It would be a good time to replace the dash pad also, as you would have the dash stripped nearly enough to replace the pad. It is probably easier to change the evap in a 124. That is considered a bear of a job. Yes, you can change the upholstery on the seats. Looking at the epc, I'd guess it would be almost everything heat/AC related that is under the dash... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 21:45, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote: Hi, I was excited that we finally got a you-pull yard, and it's almost on my way to work! So now I have good odds of being late. :) Unfortunately they don't post a list of cars in the yard, but they are pretty well organized. I stopped by this morning and found a well-kept 300D turbo that wasn't much picked-over. Of particular interest to me, this car has the horizontal row ACC (which I think means the tolerable ACC3) versus my 300D with vertical row ACC (I think that's evil Chrysler ACC2 ?) which at the moment still kind of works. Nonetheless in the way of planning, this leads me to the questions: - Can I replace ACC2 with ACC3? Unwired tools is out of my price range for this car. - If so, what parts do I need to pull? On other miscellany, is it possible to swap upholstery on seat-bottoms? Any radiator-pulling gotchas? Anything else I will wish I had pulled? :) Thanks, -Tim who is excited and a little overwhelmed to have a you-pull nearby ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Retrofitting ACC3 into ACC2? and other w123 questions
All right, all right, I won't do it! Just hoping it was feasible. :) Thanks for the responses, you all have no doubt saved me many hours of frustrations and SWMBO-battle. Thanks! -Tim On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:58 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be cheaper simply to purchase the model you want? I have seen a lot of decent 300D turbos on the market for under $2k, and the price trend is down, not up. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It would be better to have the donor car next to your car. I would guess that the best way is to remove, as John says, everything heat/AC related under the dash, including the dash wiring harness, and the parts under the hood, and the engine compartment wiring harness. You would have to note the positions of the components and label all the wiring connections. It would be a good time to replace the dash pad also, as you would have the dash stripped nearly enough to replace the pad. It is probably easier to change the evap in a 124. That is considered a bear of a job. Yes, you can change the upholstery on the seats. Looking at the epc, I'd guess it would be almost everything heat/AC related that is under the dash... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 21:45, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote: Hi, I was excited that we finally got a you-pull yard, and it's almost on my way to work! So now I have good odds of being late. :) Unfortunately they don't post a list of cars in the yard, but they are pretty well organized. I stopped by this morning and found a well-kept 300D turbo that wasn't much picked-over. Of particular interest to me, this car has the horizontal row ACC (which I think means the tolerable ACC3) versus my 300D with vertical row ACC (I think that's evil Chrysler ACC2 ?) which at the moment still kind of works. Nonetheless in the way of planning, this leads me to the questions: - Can I replace ACC2 with ACC3? Unwired tools is out of my price range for this car. - If so, what parts do I need to pull? On other miscellany, is it possible to swap upholstery on seat-bottoms? Any radiator-pulling gotchas? Anything else I will wish I had pulled? :) Thanks, -Tim who is excited and a little overwhelmed to have a you-pull nearby ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The right 524td, if there is such a thing
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Where do you live again? If you get it I may have to fly out and give it a ride... Near the other Portland, about as far away from you as I could be... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
I hear that the primary reason that the Canadian economy is doing better than the US economy is that our housing industry is still strong. We are still building and people are still paying higher prices for homes. There is a suggestion that that is a bubble that will ultimately burst. On the rising prices issue, I also note an ad in the local paper this week for 7/16 aspenite sheathing for almost $11 per sheet. Last summer I was paying between $7 and $8 and it had been cheaper in the spring. I think it was under $7 early last year and rose as the summer came. Have not looked elsewhere to see if that is the going rate but suspect it is. Was in Lowes and Menards on Wednesday but did not think to check the prices there as I had not yet seen that ad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Prices rising? Are y'all seeing prices rising? I was in Grand Forks ND yesterday. My good wife loves Kohl's and we don't have them here so we have to go south once a month so she can get another purse. May need to build on to the house in order to store them soon. In any event, I bought 4 trailer tires mounted on wheels in Menards on March 17 for $44 each. Yesterday, the same things were $54. Quite a hike in a bit over a month. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
But they do not last as long as they used to. Most parts now made in Asia and not as robust as they once were. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Prices rising? We're looking for a new refrigerator to replace a 10 year old Maytag side-by-side, which was about $1200 in 1999. A very similar model from Whirlpool is now about $700, and the latest, greatest, all the bells and whistles model is well over $2400, so the inflation argument could go either direction WRT refrigerators. I'm thinking that refrigerator prices have dropped by about 40% since 1999. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Prices rising? Are y'all seeing prices rising? I was in Grand Forks ND yesterday. My good wife loves Kohl's and we don't have them here so we have to go south once a month so she can get another purse. May need to build on to the house in order to store them soon. In any event, I bought 4 trailer tires mounted on wheels in Menards on March 17 for $44 each. Yesterday, the same things were $54. Quite a hike in a bit over a month. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
Except on computers and stuff of that nature. I have a laser printer, copier, fax, scanner machine with 2 paper trays etc that I bought a number of years back. It is a Panasonic Workio and I paid through the proverbial nose for it - I think close to $5K. In any event, it is considered obsolete and there are apparently no software upgrades for it to permit me to readily move up to Windows 7. I can go no further than XP I think, although Vista might work. In any event, the service fellow - it is on an annual contract for repair, maintenance, and toner - tells me I might want to just get a new one as the current model is only about $1K to buy brand new. I just bought an Acer i7 chip machine with 6 or 8 Gigs of RAM (can't recall and it is not here ) and a terrabyte of hard drive etc for just under $1K. I could not buy the parts and put one together for the cost in the local Staples store. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
I met yesterday with a builder for the house addition I am starting soon, he told me I should buy the SIPs now as the price is going up in the next couple of weeks. Apparently demand is starting to pick up a bit, though I can't imagine basic prices should be any higher since fuel prices are still fairly low. I guess I will have to do that, save a coupla $thou. --R On 4/30/2010 12:23 PM, R A Bennell wrote: I hear that the primary reason that the Canadian economy is doing better than the US economy is that our housing industry is still strong. We are still building and people are still paying higher prices for homes. There is a suggestion that that is a bubble that will ultimately burst. On the rising prices issue, I also note an ad in the local paper this week for 7/16 aspenite sheathing for almost $11 per sheet. Last summer I was paying between $7 and $8 and it had been cheaper in the spring. I think it was under $7 early last year and rose as the summer came. Have not looked elsewhere to see if that is the going rate but suspect it is. Was in Lowes and Menards on Wednesday but did not think to check the prices there as I had not yet seen that ad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Prices rising? Are y'all seeing prices rising? I was in Grand Forks ND yesterday. My good wife loves Kohl's and we don't have them here so we have to go south once a month so she can get another purse. May need to build on to the house in order to store them soon. In any event, I bought 4 trailer tires mounted on wheels in Menards on March 17 for $44 each. Yesterday, the same things were $54. Quite a hike in a bit over a month. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel
Thanks for checking Dwight. The truth is out there... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:56 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel Max, Even though the Nitske I have goes to 95, I can find any listings for E300 Diesel. Maybe I missed something but I looked couple times. Only 320E as late 124's. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel Does anyone KNOW the factory spec for 0-62 mph in a '95 E300 Diesel? Given that the HP and torque is less than an OM603, it will be slower than 11 seconds but how much is the key. My car seems to have great power higher in the RPM band, but it's a little less powerful down low. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel The 210 turbo is sub 9 seconds, and will walk all over the E320. The 0-15 time is bad on the td, but the 20-80 time is good! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 16:53, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: John Reames wrote: That sounds a wee bit optimistic... The turbo 606 units are intercooled... The turbo 606 is about 175 hp and 250 lb-ft of torque. I think the turbo 603, were more like 145hp and 200 lb-ft, and the na 606 was more like 135 hp and 155 lb-ft... But those are guesstimates from memory... That sounds about right, give or take a couple of hp. I've got to think a W210 with 175hp would be slower than a W201 with 170hp and a stick shift. I think my 190E 2.3-16v was something like 7.5-8 seconds 0-60 according to Road and Track. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel
Thanks for looking Mitch, I guess I'll be spending the $40 or whatever for the technical data book that might cover my car. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Does anyone KNOW the factory spec for 0-62 mph in a '95 E300 Diesel? I didn't find that, but I did find a couple of 2.5 Cheap Classe cars of interest. Makes me want a 605.960 all the more, it looks like that engine was the equal of the 603 turbo. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=7370 http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=109120 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
I think your situation has been helped tremendously by your bankers, who seem to have maintained sobriety and skepticism and thus avoided the sub-prime mortgage mess that our politicians/investment bankers/mortgage lenders/aspiring home-owners have gotten us into. It is clear to me that if the bankers and mortgage lenders here in the U.S. of A. had shown more fiscal sense than greed, we would not be in nearly the mess we are in now. The whole stinking pile of do-do required many actors to do their part, and if one class of actors had refused to participate then maybe things would have turned out a little different. OK, I'll stop with the politics now, even though I'm flying under the flag of economics... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Prices rising? I hear that the primary reason that the Canadian economy is doing better than the US economy is that our housing industry is still strong. We are still building and people are still paying higher prices for homes. There is a suggestion that that is a bubble that will ultimately burst. On the rising prices issue, I also note an ad in the local paper this week for 7/16 aspenite sheathing for almost $11 per sheet. Last summer I was paying between $7 and $8 and it had been cheaper in the spring. I think it was under $7 early last year and rose as the summer came. Have not looked elsewhere to see if that is the going rate but suspect it is. Was in Lowes and Menards on Wednesday but did not think to check the prices there as I had not yet seen that ad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Prices rising? Are y'all seeing prices rising? I was in Grand Forks ND yesterday. My good wife loves Kohl's and we don't have them here so we have to go south once a month so she can get another purse. May need to build on to the house in order to store them soon. In any event, I bought 4 trailer tires mounted on wheels in Menards on March 17 for $44 each. Yesterday, the same things were $54. Quite a hike in a bit over a month. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I met yesterday with a builder for the house addition I am starting soon, he told me I should buy the SIPs now as the price is going up in the next couple of weeks That's interesting, Rich---what made you go with SIPs? Upfront cost, insulating properties, energy tax credits, all of the above? I've been researching alternatives to conventional stick building for a new house I plan to build within the next few years or so, in the hope of better passive climate control, sound deadening, and fire resistance... there are lots of options, assuming you can find a builder willing to think outside the box a bit, and get a permit for something other than a plain vanilla McMansion. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I've been researching alternatives to conventional stick building for a new house I plan to build within the next few years or so, in the hope of better passive climate control, sound deadening, and fire resistance... there are lots of options, assuming you can find a builder willing to think outside the box a bit, and get a permit for something other than a plain vanilla McMansion. I've wanted to do straw, but it's labor intensive, concrete is not the ideal stucco material, and the really good stuff like lime plaster takes skill to do. Prefab domes erected by owner beat paying a contractor to assemble anything else. I'm leaning towards a sort of split level two story of conventional construction. The garage floor will be a few feet higher than the basement floor. The garage ceiling will be level with the first floor ceiling (13' or so garage height), and the 2nd floor will be on top of the first floor and garage. I figure it would take about $25k worth of materials to enclose 2000 sq feet of living space and 700sq feet of garage. Exterior walls of 2x6 conventional construction packed full of cellulose, wood basement with 2x8 walls, garage foundation of foam lego blocks poured full of concrete. Lots of untinted windows on the south side, with enough low-e glass on the other three sides to make it legal (stupid California wankers sticking the whole country with an air conditioning centric building code). Either that, or put low-e glass all around on the plans and just install proper stuff on the south wall, hope the inspectors are too stupid to notice. I think I could do the whole thing for $60k and three months of my time. One time I was looking at a Menard's house kit, and asked a builder friend how much he'd charge (labor only) to build the frame. He quoted me $25k IIRC. You know how many months I'd need to work to earn $25k? And now many weeks it would take an inexperienced carpenter to frame a house? It'd be far better to take a leave of absence and DIY. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising? now SIPs
We're doing a timber frame addition. The frame can go up quickly (3-4 days as it is shipped all cut and ready to erect) and the SIPs are probably another 4-5 days as they will be mostly cut at the fab facility, some trimming on-site. I can have the whole addition up and dried in less than 2 weeks, then I can start doing all the other work. Much faster than a stick frame structure, and will be much better insulated (though that aspect is not a huge issue here). I am more interested in speed and the timber frame is aesthetic, and SIPs and timber frames just make sense. SIPS for standard stick construction will save money initially and in the long run too (construction labor and insulating value) so that sorta offsets the higher initial cost for material. Insect resistance is better too (good benefit for me). The guy doing the actual construction work is an architect/builder that does LEED/green construction, and had a SIP facility at his site but got out of that and has outsourced to another local facility (or something, not quite sure how they worked it out). I went up there and visited the plant which basically consisted of a big glue squirter and a hydraulic press to squeeze a stack of panels and foam and 2x's together until the glue set up, and some work benches where they cut the panels before shipping if that was specced. Fairly low tech, you could pretty much do the same thing with a big stack of concrete blocks. A 4x24ft x 4.5 panel weighed maybe 150lb if that, fairly easy to deal with. The foam comes with some holes cut for wire chases, and the panels are marked so you know where they are. I made a little blog if you are interested to follow the project, right now I am waiting for the county to give me my permits, hope to have that next week and get the foundation started soon thereafter if the concrete guy ever gets back to me (he says he is starting to get busy, and is my gating factor now). http://marshhouseaddition.blogspot.com/ --R On 4/30/2010 1:13 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I met yesterday with a builder for the house addition I am starting soon, he told me I should buy the SIPs now as the price is going up in the next couple of weeks That's interesting, Rich---what made you go with SIPs? Upfront cost, insulating properties, energy tax credits, all of the above? I've been researching alternatives to conventional stick building for a new house I plan to build within the next few years or so, in the hope of better passive climate control, sound deadening, and fire resistance... there are lots of options, assuming you can find a builder willing to think outside the box a bit, and get a permit for something other than a plain vanilla McMansion. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
What John said. Manfred Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:42:39 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna Thanks for the seminar. Fortunately for me, the antenna is a spare I got for free so I can do as you suggest. Do I need to just plug it in, or should I also screw in the cable from the car's wiring harness that attaches to the base of the the mast?? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 TD
I've been driving it for the past two weeks. That's how I know it probably needs a new pump. When I put weight on the back with the engine running the back doesn't come up. However if I drive down the road with the load, in a few blocks with the bumps and all the back end will come up from 15 at one mark on the bumper to 17 or within 2 of the normal ride height of 19 for that same point. I guess that's not too bad with about 650 lbs back of the wheels (5 bags of portland). It accelerates faster then the sedan I have does and starts better. The engine sounds real good but the transmission still occasionally slips on the 2-3 shift. I still think it has something to do with the valve body (sticking valve) but I'm not worried enough about it to go in after it. Manfred Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:48:29 -0400 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] 300 TD Hi Manfred - how is the 300TD project coming along? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
Ah but it will use 40% less electricity. Manfred Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:42:01 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Prices rising? And it will last 60% as long. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel
I've been looking but haven't been able to find anything definitive... The wiki Mercedes-Benz W124 article shows that the 3.0L 24V engine is 134hp and 155lb-ft with a 0-100km/h of 12.8-13.8 seconds (max speed noted as 187-200km/h) According to the 210 article, the turbo version is 175hp and 243lb-ft (the w124 turbo 12V version is 145hp and 201lb-ft, 0-100km/h in 10.9 seconds) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:42, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Does anyone KNOW the factory spec for 0-62 mph in a '95 E300 Diesel? Given that the HP and torque is less than an OM603, it will be slower than 11 seconds but how much is the key. My car seems to have great power higher in the RPM band, but it's a little less powerful down low. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel The 210 turbo is sub 9 seconds, and will walk all over the E320. The 0-15 time is bad on the td, but the 20-80 time is good! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 16:53, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: John Reames wrote: That sounds a wee bit optimistic... The turbo 606 units are intercooled... The turbo 606 is about 175 hp and 250 lb-ft of torque. I think the turbo 603, were more like 145hp and 200 lb-ft, and the na 606 was more like 135 hp and 155 lb-ft... But those are guesstimates from memory... That sounds about right, give or take a couple of hp. I've got to think a W210 with 175hp would be slower than a W201 with 170hp and a stick shift. I think my 190E 2.3-16v was something like 7.5-8 seconds 0-60 according to Road and Track. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First Ride(s) in my '95 E300 Diesel
Iirc, the 605 never made it into the states, and was just a 5 cyl version of the 606 (with all of the same issues) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:54, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Does anyone KNOW the factory spec for 0-62 mph in a '95 E300 Diesel? I didn't find that, but I did find a couple of 2.5 Cheap Classe cars of interest. Makes me want a 605.960 all the more, it looks like that engine was the equal of the 603 turbo. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=7370 http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=109120 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
Hmm my laserjet 4m+ shouldn't have any driver issues... But then it's not a lobotomized windows printer that expects the host machine to do a lot of the work... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 12:32, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Except on computers and stuff of that nature. I have a laser printer, copier, fax, scanner machine with 2 paper trays etc that I bought a number of years back. It is a Panasonic Workio and I paid through the proverbial nose for it - I think close to $5K. In any event, it is considered obsolete and there are apparently no software upgrades for it to permit me to readily move up to Windows 7. I can go no further than XP I think, although Vista might work. In any event, the service fellow - it is on an annual contract for repair, maintenance, and toner - tells me I might want to just get a new one as the current model is only about $1K to buy brand new. I just bought an Acer i7 chip machine with 6 or 8 Gigs of RAM (can't recall and it is not here ) and a terrabyte of hard drive etc for just under $1K. I could not buy the parts and put one together for the cost in the local Staples store. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:57:10 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Hmm my laserjet 4m+ shouldn't have any driver issues... But then it's not a lobotomized windows printer that expects the host machine to do a lot of the work... Indeed. An HP PostScript capable, ethernet connected printer can be driven by almost anything. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes Wall Parking
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/wrong_thats_how_you_did_it_par.php :) Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 Mercedes W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Wall Parking
tom tomscat wrote: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/wrong_thats_how_you_did_it_par.php Those are the best pics I've seen, but the Jalopnik readers' comments are better: http://jalopnik.com/5526703/honey-you-parked-the-car-where ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s)
Since there's been considerable talk recently regarding Hirschmann antennas, I thought I'd query you guys as to what may be causing the Hirschmann auto antenna on my '84 300D to be inoperative. Some of you may recall that I replaced the left rear quarter panel last fall and removed the Hirschmann antenna when this work was done (Note: I've previously removed the antenna to clean the innards and reinstalled and all was fine). Upon reinstallating the antenna after the left rear quarter was replaced and painted, I had a heckuva time getting rid of a buzzing sound when the radio was on and connected/reconnected the antenna numerous times and the automatic rise/lower function of the antenna worked all during this time until I finally got rid of the buzz and then the rise/lower function disappeared. I've since mechanically raised the antenna mast and left the antenna unplugged . . . cheaper that way. I just measured the continuity across the little motor (red green wires) in the Hirschmann antenna case at 0.7 ohm. I've also measured voltage at the plug which plugs onto the pins on top of the Hirschmann antenna case: Pin 6 = Gnd. Pin 1 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 2 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 3 to pin 6 = ~ 11.3 VDC whether key/radion is on or off Pin 4 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Pin 5 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Anyone got any clues? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:32 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Except on computers and stuff of that nature. Yes, very much so, early adopter penalty for quickly-changing industries. LCD TVs, for example, have come down a lot even since Christmas, maybe one day I will buy one. I've seen very little change on used Mercedes seasonal prices in the last year, though. :) I have a laser printer, copier, fax, scanner machine with 2 paper trays etc that I bought a number of years back. It is a Panasonic Workio and I paid through the proverbial nose for it - I think close to $5K. In any event, it is Looks like some of the WorkIO printers used Postscript + PCL, so if you don't use the 'scanner' function much you should be able to keep it printing using generic drivers, and I assume that it would still do copying/fax without a PC attached (i.e. internally) at that price. FWIW standalone scanners are relatively cheap, and are often available at thrift stores. :) John/Craig, I also use HP, but my parallel scanner isn't supported anymore. I can use it as a copier into the LJ5 though... I just bought an Acer i7 chip machine with 6 or 8 Gigs of RAM (can't recall and it is not here ) and a terrabyte of hard drive etc for just under $1K. I could not buy the parts and put one together for the cost in the local Staples store. I've noticed that too, PC manufacturers are really doing an amazing job keeping assembly margins low. -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
Yep, and the plus model is a smudge faster, but more importantly, it duplexes. Plus the 4/4+/5 series (no suffix or m suffix only) are some of the cheapest per page, based on consumable costs. Rated life of cartridges is/was conservative, and you would get quite a bit more than the label said (10-20%!!!), plus no expiration date chip in the cartridges, and no documented microdot date/serial number encodings... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 15:18, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:57:10 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Hmm my laserjet 4m+ shouldn't have any driver issues... But then it's not a lobotomized windows printer that expects the host machine to do a lot of the work... Indeed. An HP PostScript capable, ethernet connected printer can be driven by almost anything. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s)
Check your grounds. Every last one of them. Make sure you have bare metal on bare metal and things are good and tight. I suspect one was loose or forgotten by the painters... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 15:56, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Since there's been considerable talk recently regarding Hirschmann antennas, I thought I'd query you guys as to what may be causing the Hirschmann auto antenna on my '84 300D to be inoperative. Some of you may recall that I replaced the left rear quarter panel last fall and removed the Hirschmann antenna when this work was done (Note: I've previously removed the antenna to clean the innards and reinstalled and all was fine). Upon reinstallating the antenna after the left rear quarter was replaced and painted, I had a heckuva time getting rid of a buzzing sound when the radio was on and connected/reconnected the antenna numerous times and the automatic rise/lower function of the antenna worked all during this time until I finally got rid of the buzz and then the rise/lower function disappeared. I've since mechanically raised the antenna mast and left the antenna unplugged . . . cheaper that way. I just measured the continuity across the little motor (red green wires) in the Hirschmann antenna case at 0.7 ohm. I've also measured voltage at the plug which plugs onto the pins on top of the Hirschmann antenna case: Pin 6 = Gnd. Pin 1 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 2 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 3 to pin 6 = ~ 11.3 VDC whether key/radion is on or off Pin 4 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Pin 5 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Anyone got any clues? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
Scanners are a pita. Scsi seems to be the closest to universal as there is, and they are a pita. Oddly, most standalone scanners work very well with Linux boxes and macs... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 16:54, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:32 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Except on computers and stuff of that nature. Yes, very much so, early adopter penalty for quickly-changing industries. LCD TVs, for example, have come down a lot even since Christmas, maybe one day I will buy one. I've seen very little change on used Mercedes seasonal prices in the last year, though. :) I have a laser printer, copier, fax, scanner machine with 2 paper trays etc that I bought a number of years back. It is a Panasonic Workio and I paid through the proverbial nose for it - I think close to $5K. In any event, it is Looks like some of the WorkIO printers used Postscript + PCL, so if you don't use the 'scanner' function much you should be able to keep it printing using generic drivers, and I assume that it would still do copying/fax without a PC attached (i.e. internally) at that price. FWIW standalone scanners are relatively cheap, and are often available at thrift stores. :) John/Craig, I also use HP, but my parallel scanner isn't supported anymore. I can use it as a copier into the LJ5 though... I just bought an Acer i7 chip machine with 6 or 8 Gigs of RAM (can't recall and it is not here ) and a terrabyte of hard drive etc for just under $1K. I could not buy the parts and put one together for the cost in the local Staples store. I've noticed that too, PC manufacturers are really doing an amazing job keeping assembly margins low. -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s)
It has to be a FUSE if you ask me! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:49:39 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s) Check your grounds. Every last one of them. Make sure you have bare metal on bare metal and things are good and tight. I suspect one was loose or forgotten by the painters... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 15:56, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Since there's been considerable talk recently regarding Hirschmann antennas, I thought I'd query you guys as to what may be causing the Hirschmann auto antenna on my '84 300D to be inoperative. Some of you may recall that I replaced the left rear quarter panel last fall and removed the Hirschmann antenna when this work was done (Note: I've previously removed the antenna to clean the innards and reinstalled and all was fine). Upon reinstallating the antenna after the left rear quarter was replaced and painted, I had a heckuva time getting rid of a buzzing sound when the radio was on and connected/reconnected the antenna numerous times and the automatic rise/lower function of the antenna worked all during this time until I finally got rid of the buzz and then the rise/lower function disappeared. I've since mechanically raised the antenna mast and left the antenna unplugged . . . cheaper that way. I just measured the continuity across the little motor (red green wires) in the Hirschmann antenna case at 0.7 ohm. I've also measured voltage at the plug which plugs onto the pins on top of the Hirschmann antenna case: Pin 6 = Gnd. Pin 1 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 2 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 3 to pin 6 = ~ 11.3 VDC whether key/radion is on or off Pin 4 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Pin 5 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Anyone got any clues? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s)
What else doesn't work? Wilton - Original Message - From: buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s) It has to be a FUSE if you ask me! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:49:39 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s) Check your grounds. Every last one of them. Make sure you have bare metal on bare metal and things are good and tight. I suspect one was loose or forgotten by the painters... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 30, 2010, at 15:56, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Since there's been considerable talk recently regarding Hirschmann antennas, I thought I'd query you guys as to what may be causing the Hirschmann auto antenna on my '84 300D to be inoperative. Some of you may recall that I replaced the left rear quarter panel last fall and removed the Hirschmann antenna when this work was done (Note: I've previously removed the antenna to clean the innards and reinstalled and all was fine). Upon reinstallating the antenna after the left rear quarter was replaced and painted, I had a heckuva time getting rid of a buzzing sound when the radio was on and connected/reconnected the antenna numerous times and the automatic rise/lower function of the antenna worked all during this time until I finally got rid of the buzz and then the rise/lower function disappeared. I've since mechanically raised the antenna mast and left the antenna unplugged . . . cheaper that way. I just measured the continuity across the little motor (red green wires) in the Hirschmann antenna case at 0.7 ohm. I've also measured voltage at the plug which plugs onto the pins on top of the Hirschmann antenna case: Pin 6 = Gnd. Pin 1 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 2 to pin 6 = 0 VDC Pin 3 to pin 6 = ~ 11.3 VDC whether key/radion is on or off Pin 4 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Pin 5 to pin 6 = ~ 12 VDC radio on; ~ 0.05 VDC radio off Anyone got any clues? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
I've had excellent luck with my Agfa usb scanner with Linux, better than with Windows even. The exception is OCR software, the AGFA offering is vastly superior to the Linux. -Curt Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:51:42 -0400 From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Prices rising? Message-ID: c8fe1ff8-2ad0-40bb-83ed-df4cc365a...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Scanners are a pita. Scsi seems to be the closest to universal as there is, and they are a pita. Oddly, most standalone scanners work very well with Linux boxes and macs... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 300D Hirschmann auto antenna gremlin(s)
antenna on my '84 300D to be inoperative. Some of you may recall that I replaced the left rear quarter panel last fall and removed the Hirschmann antenna when this work was done Grounding. There's a big knot of grounds back there, it might be partially messed up. The new panel might have ended up insulated from the rest. How's the braided ground cable that goes to the antenna mast? Three things to check right there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Prices rising?
enclose 2000 sq feet of living space and 700sq feet of garage. Your ratios, Sir, are all wrong! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New C-Class ventilates parking garage
I think the driver was an accident that did happen! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Foot was stuck on the gas -- same deal as the Toyota? I still think a computer controlled throttle is a disaster waiting to occur! Peter -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
