Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues
This is my quarterly trip to Burbank... No rental car, no nuthin... -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:58:36 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues Message-ID: aanlktinnftc4midnbk+ta75ch248mb_qtvlcmperd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Where you going in so-cal, Curt? Bob R On Jul 23, 2010 10:52 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Took the Red 190D for inspection today. He pulled it in an immediately said Do the lights suck at night? I said I dunno, I've never driven it at night to which he replied They're pointed right at the ground and proceeded to adjust them for me, for free... Then we noticed the pool of ATF under the car. Whoops, didn't see that before. It makes a small pool under the nose and another under the pan, could that be just a bad cooler line? I've got a gasket and filter for a trans service I was planning on doing in a week or two. He wouldn't go any further at that point, I feel bad for dirtying his nice clean inspection bay... Fortunately I'm off to So-Cal next week so my Indy can have a week to get things right. If he can't (or if he isn't around, he hasn't returned my call yet) I may have to buy Dwights 240D pronto! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid?
I'd better buy 7 litres then. Actually as I think about it maybe I should have him use the regular stuff for this first change, then maybe in a year do it again to M1 to flush the crap out and maybe detect any more leaks without breaking the bank. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:01:24 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid? Message-ID: aanlktim8kf5ae+uqnzoqdyfrfkus2hpeu_9wcabb4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A change is 6 liters, a refill is 7.1 liters, per the technical data book. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So when my Red 190D goes in for the punch list I'm going to have the transmission serviced. My Indy will put in M1 if I bring it, how much do I need? '84 190D auto trans. -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
I was going to say the same, I've got a '52 Farmall that hasn't seen leaded fuel in 20+ years. Hasn't ever had a lead substitute either. I was told that years of running on leaded fuel hardened the valve seats so they aren't a problem now. The same source also said if any head work is done hardened (sodium filled?) should be installed so no problems will happen in the future. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:14:31 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL Message-ID: 5e9795d1-d891-481d-b2b5-9dcef9ffd...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Unleaded premium will be fine. In fact, it will work BETTER than leaded fuel, since you won't be polishing off the valve seats and honing marks with lead oxide. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
How come nobody picks on you for a pile of parts cars? ;) Mao has his out front, mine cower beside the garage. Well the 240D is front and center in the driveway, I haven't figured out how to drag it to a good parking spot yet, need to roust out the Cub Cadet. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:48:52 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Message-ID: 20100723234852.e3700f16.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: Its cheaper to buy a nicer car... I bought this car to learn how to work on cars. I did all the brakes, the exhaust, the water pump (should remember to get that back), rust repair, the antenna, replaced and repainted the hood, re-did the dash pod (with LED lighting), radiator hoses, drag link (which I should also keep), idler arm, and other stuff I can't even recall right now. Its been a great classroom. If you get another 123 - keep the whole thing as a parts car. Having a spare is _way_ handy! Just tonight I borrowed the engine start lock assembly from the parts car for a daily driver so I make the 200 mile trip tomorrow... Rusty will be getting an order soon - but as good as he is, he cannot beat the time it takes me to walk out to the hulk. :) And we can start calling you Kaleb Jr. *grin* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
On the /5 BMW motorcycles the cure to run on unleaded regular in place of leaded premium was dual plugs (drilling and tapping the heads for a second plug, then adding a second coil etc) and then when the valves caused problems, or preventatively, adding hardened seats. Valves were not replaced unless they were worn beyond limits, and then with the standard valves. The 450 needed premium leaded. I'd say put in the plugs with the 2 or 4 grounds,and try it on 10% ethanol gas. I think that will work. If you get pinging, the try adding a hot coil to put more fire to the plugs. The ethanol raises the octane rating. I have run all the MB gassers I ever had on regular unleaded with 10% ethanol and had no problem, but the 450 engine may be a little higher compression than the standard MB Gasser. I was going to say the same, I've got a '52 Farmall that hasn't seen leaded fuel in 20+ years. Hasn't ever had a lead substitute either. I was told that years of running on leaded fuel hardened the valve seats so they aren't a problem now. The same source also said if any head work is done hardened (sodium filled?) should be installed so no problems will happen in the future. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:14:31 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL Message-ID: 5e9795d1-d891-481d-b2b5-9dcef9ffd...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Unleaded premium will be fine. In fact, it will work BETTER than leaded fuel, since you won't be polishing off the valve seats and honing marks with lead oxide. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
As I recall, every MB engine already has hard valve seats so there's no issue there. The 450 engine is a wheezy-for-US job that's extra low compression anyway. Europe got the high-compression 280, 350, and 500 engines. Not us. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
Actually, the myth was that the lead oxide produced an ablative coating -- that is, one that wears away but doesn't wear the underlying seat -- and protected the valve seats in cheapo crap Detroit motors with the valve seat (and guide) machined directly into the cast iron of the head. This is bunkum -- the lead oxide acts as a grinding compound on the valve seats, not a lubricant or ablative coating or any such nonsense, to say nothing of the lead oxide powder that got into the oil and goes through the filter. All you have to do is look a the seat when you take the valve out and see the nice, shiny ring on both valve and seat, unless there was so much crap on it that the valve didn't seat at all, which wasn't uncommon. Nor was a wad of melted lead oxide on the spark plug! Remember lead fouling where the deposits melted at high speed and load and shorted the plugs out? After all the screaming and bullshit, it turned out that not only was there no damage from using unleaded fuel in such engines, they typically lasted 100,000 miles longer when unleaded fuel was used. GM didn't stop using directly machined valve seats and guides until they started using aluminum heads, and the buggers go forever. Don't forget, leaded premium had up to 4 grams of lead per gallon in it -- you could get lead poisoning by pumping gas! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
What is the difference between the engine components? Different head, or different pistons/rods, etc.? --R On 7/24/2010 9:38 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: As I recall, every MB engine already has hard valve seats so there's no issue there. The 450 engine is a wheezy-for-US job that's extra low compression anyway. Europe got the high-compression 280, 350, and 500 engines. Not us. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
It already has hardened valve seats -- the only real problem would be detonation, so if ti pings richen it up a bit, or add some ethanol or other octane booster. I'd try premium unleaded before getting all bent out of shape. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
What is the difference between the engine components? Different head, or different pistons/rods, etc.? That I don't know for sure, but I think it was all in the head. (Crappy cam, larger chambers, etc.) All a byproduct of flawed thinking, where parts-per-million was the goal rather than parts-per-mile. Your tax dollars at work! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. But what's in the bottle? Is it recycled? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
I needed oil for our '91 300D (182K mi) and finally found some at Advance Auto - M1 Turbo Truck in 5W40. I hesitated at 1st but the bottle says substitute for 15W40 I haven't seen this before. The present oil (15W40 M1) has about 4k on it so I'm getting ready. But since we're having 100F days here I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put a 5W in it? I'm seeing oil pressure around 1.5 bar when idling at 210F. any comments? Thx LarryT 91 300D Import - Export Putting Buyers Sellers Together -- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. But what's in the bottle? Is it recycled? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?
The Mamabenz threw the compressor belt the other day. I recharged the system (converted to 134) a coupla weeks back and it was BLOWING COLD (sorta) but the compressor was making graunching sounds, and the belt was squeaking and sorta floppy, though it seemed fairly tight at rest. I figured the compressor was on its last. Probably why the belt let go. I have a new set of belts to replace them all, so was gonna do that anyway, but probably should get a new compressor to keep mama happy. I have not particularly followed all the discussion on that -- what compressor would be appropriate or readily available (i.e., somewhat affordable), and considering the 134 conversion. The 79TD has a compressor on it that seemed to work the one time I put in a can of R12 (which soon leaked out), but don't know if that is where it was leaking or what. Possible swap? Or one from a junker? Or a new one of some sort? Or one of those japcar compressors? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts NOW OIL
I think that stuff is fine, as long as it has the diesel rating. Wasn't there a lot of discussion on various M1 formulations and reformulations, etc. that basically renamed their diesel rated oils? --R On 7/24/2010 10:16 AM, Larry T wrote: I needed oil for our '91 300D (182K mi) and finally found some at Advance Auto - M1 Turbo Truck in 5W40. I hesitated at 1st but the bottle says substitute for 15W40 I haven't seen this before. The present oil (15W40 M1) has about 4k on it so I'm getting ready. But since we're having 100F days here I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put a 5W in it? I'm seeing oil pressure around 1.5 bar when idling at 210F. any comments? Thx LarryT 91 300D Import - Export Putting Buyers Sellers Together -- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. But what's in the bottle? Is it recycled? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Larry, I thought you were the oil guy :-) (I need to send you a sample.) All I can get here is the M1 15-40. My 90 like your 91 holds about 1.5 bar even at 100C idling. My $0.02 Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts I needed oil for our '91 300D (182K mi) and finally found some at Advance Auto - M1 Turbo Truck in 5W40. I hesitated at 1st but the bottle says substitute for 15W40 I haven't seen this before. The present oil (15W40 M1) has about 4k on it so I'm getting ready. But since we're having 100F days here I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put a 5W in it? I'm seeing oil pressure around 1.5 bar when idling at 210F. any comments? Thx LarryT 91 300D Import - Export Putting Buyers Sellers Together -- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. But what's in the bottle? Is it recycled? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts NOW OIL
Rich Thomas wrote: I think that stuff is fine, as long as it has the diesel rating. Wasn't there a lot of discussion on various M1 formulations and reformulations, etc. that basically renamed their diesel rated oils? 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck is the same stuff as 5W40 Delvac One, AFAIK. One of the best synthetic diesel oils out there. Meijer has it for $16.99 a gallon this week. Page 32 of the ad: http://meijer.shoplocal.com/meijer/default.aspx?action=entryflashstoreref=23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?
What kind of compressor? Our stable of MB's has York, A6, R4, and Nippondenso, depending on age. Did it seize? If so, it'll take some cleaning to get all the abrasive gunk out of the system. I'm a big fan of the refrigerant I use for testing, the operating pressures are a lot lower and the mineral oil lubricates better. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Hi Dwight - You wrote thought you were the oil guy :-) I kinda saw that coming! But I learned long ago there's always someone who knows more than I do - which is true for anyone IMO. Where are you located? (I know, I could look it up, but where's the fun it that?) I guess the Richmond Va area rec'd the new formulations first? I need to check the M1 site to see what they say. Rich mentioned a thread about oil recently - I missed it. It's been a tough summer. I've been preoccupied - the knee I had replaced last June is failing - so mobility is harder at the time I need to be up and around - plus, I'm doing some new stuff work wise which takes a lot of time. I'll either get a new knee next month or a spacer (Yuck - that's a bad option) which will be needed if infection is found during the surgery. Pre-surgery tests have been negative, but the doc is very cautious. If the spacer is used, it'll be in for 2-3 months and I won't be able to put weight on it. Fun, Huh? I'll be looking for that sample -- ;-) LarryT 91 300D Import - Export Putting Buyers Sellers Together -- From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:28 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Larry, I thought you were the oil guy :-) (I need to send you a sample.) All I can get here is the M1 15-40. My 90 like your 91 holds about 1.5 bar even at 100C idling. My $0.02 Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts I needed oil for our '91 300D (182K mi) and finally found some at Advance Auto - M1 Turbo Truck in 5W40. I hesitated at 1st but the bottle says substitute for 15W40 I haven't seen this before. The present oil (15W40 M1) has about 4k on it so I'm getting ready. But since we're having 100F days here I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put a 5W in it? I'm seeing oil pressure around 1.5 bar when idling at 210F. any comments? Thx LarryT 91 300D Import - Export Putting Buyers Sellers Together -- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. But what's in the bottle? Is it recycled? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?
Don't know what kind, I'll have to get under there and take a look today, see if it is indeed seized or just almost. I'll see what the TD has on it too. The car is an 84, but I don't know if the compressor is original. So you're saying that if I test it with your homebrew refrigerant recipe, it might work well in the converted system? Does the test recipe use 134 or R12 oil? (Note that when I say converted, it has a sticker, proper fittings, and there is a receipt for a good Benz shop doing the conversion for some significant $$, which I am figuring means they did it right I'll see if I can dig that out and see if there is any detail on what was done, I don't remember.) I'll dig out your posting on the matter, and re-read it. --R On 7/24/2010 10:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: What kind of compressor? Our stable of MB's has York, A6, R4, and Nippondenso, depending on age. Did it seize? If so, it'll take some cleaning to get all the abrasive gunk out of the system. I'm a big fan of the refrigerant I use for testing, the operating pressures are a lot lower and the mineral oil lubricates better. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?
So you're saying that if I test it with your homebrew refrigerant recipe, it might work well in the converted system? Supposedly it does. I've back-converted the only R134a system I've used it in. Removed fitting adapters, flushed out compressor, replaced mineral oil, etc. Sticker peeled off, but saved. Does the test recipe use 134 or R12 oil? R12. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues
so when are you there? I have to be in Corona/Anaheim end of next month. Bob R On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: This is my quarterly trip to Burbank... No rental car, no nuthin... -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:58:36 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues Message-ID: aanlktinnftc4midnbk+ta75ch248mb_qtvlcmperd...@mail.gmail.comaanlktinnftc4midnbk%2bta75ch248mb_qtvlcmperd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Where you going in so-cal, Curt? Bob R On Jul 23, 2010 10:52 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Took the Red 190D for inspection today. He pulled it in an immediately said Do the lights suck at night? I said I dunno, I've never driven it at night to which he replied They're pointed right at the ground and proceeded to adjust them for me, for free... Then we noticed the pool of ATF under the car. Whoops, didn't see that before. It makes a small pool under the nose and another under the pan, could that be just a bad cooler line? I've got a gasket and filter for a trans service I was planning on doing in a week or two. He wouldn't go any further at that point, I feel bad for dirtying his nice clean inspection bay... Fortunately I'm off to So-Cal next week so my Indy can have a week to get things right. If he can't (or if he isn't around, he hasn't returned my call yet) I may have to buy Dwights 240D pronto! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Dieselhead wrote: Now, Tell be about how your new detriot iron is better than a rusty old MB? Tell me about that old rusty MB and a 2005 MB. I wonder if there is a way to do that type of filmed crash test report. That might be interesting, although, I doubt if they have cut back on their infamous crush zones. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Curt wrote: Mao has his out front, mine cower beside the garage. Actually, that is the back door. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
I'm running 5w-40 in both the 2.5T cars - run colls just fine, and stays at 85C even when it's 100F outside, after a highway run, and has 1.5 bar at idle. The other heats up to 105C in the same conditions, but still has 1.5 bar at idle. It's probably getting time to send samples in again - I'll check. I'm still getting good reports back after 10,000 miles on the oil, but I change it then anyway. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.netwrote: Larry, I thought you were the oil guy :-) (I need to send you a sample.) All I can get here is the M1 15-40. My 90 like your 91 holds about 1.5 bar even at 100C idling. My $0.02 Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Now: Oil
Who cares? If it meets the CI-4 standard thats good enough for me. The car was leaking a quart in ~800 miles and I was changing at 3,000 miles so I used the cheapest oil I could get. The new Red 190D will get Mobil 1 5w40 and after analysis will probably get changes around 12,000 miles. The old car still had clean analysis reports at 15,000 but the engine sounded different so I changed and backed down to 12,000 mile changes. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:07:45 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Message-ID: m16305x9am@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. But what's in the bottle? Is it recycled? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] M1 5w40
We used to go through this all the time, I'm glad we're down to a couple times a year. IIRC Marshall said there were 3 MB blessed M1 formulations, 0w40, 15w50 and 5w40. What is now bottled as 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck used to be 5w40 Truck and SUV (that name is now used on a 5w30 I believe) and is the same stuff (less a boron tracer) as Delvac 1. Supposedly Delvac 1 met a slightly more stringent spec than the 0w40 or 15w50 but all are good oils. My '85 190D had a steady diet of 5w40 for 90,000 miles with no issues whatsoever. I liked it because it was thin and allowed easy starts in the winter time while not pouring out of ever seam like the 0w40. My '83 240D back before I went super discount had at some point each of the M1 formulations. The 0w40 made the car start much better in extreme (-20F) cold but leaked very badly even back before that engine leaked at its worst. 15w50 leaked much less and was still easier to start with in the winter time than conventional oil and the 5w40 was someplace in the middle. I get M1 5w40 at Autozone, about once a month they have a deal with 5 quarts and a filter for $25 at which point I usually get 10 quarts (five in the morning and five in the afternoon). I usually get a filter for the Ranger and put it in the truck when that goes to Spee-Dee for a change for which they credit me $5. I've also been using M1 5w40 in the motorcycles. When I first changed to it I noticed that shifts got a little more crisp. I also think my Honda CB900f has gotten a bit easier to start. Its a 4cyl and those bikes are notorious for hard cold starts and sometimes difficult restarts when fully warm. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:16:57 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Message-ID: 210e1d6de6da49368c0d6a1ebecc4...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I needed oil for our '91 300D (182K mi) and finally found some at Advance Auto - M1 Turbo Truck in 5W40. I hesitated at 1st but the bottle says substitute for 15W40 I haven't seen this before. The present oil (15W40 M1) has about 4k on it so I'm getting ready. But since we're having 100F days here I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put a 5W in it? I'm seeing oil pressure around 1.5 bar when idling at 210F. any comments? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
I would guess the legendary survivability of an MB has only gotten better over the years. COmputer simulations and such Ease of computing, etc... I am sure that is what MB and NTSB would say. Dieselhead wrote: Now, Tell be about how your new detriot iron is better than a rusty old MB? Tell me about that old rusty MB and a 2005 MB. I wonder if there is a way to do that type of filmed crash test report. That might be interesting, although, I doubt if they have cut back on their infamous crush zones. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lead?
Friday, July 23, 2010 7:22 PM From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Thanks, but the 100LL/avgas option doesn't seem too realistic.??With whatever the?price of 100 octane (7 pts above even present day?premium) combined with my thirsty steed's 11 mpg,?my 450's cost per moving mile would rival that of the space shuttle... Last I heard, 80/87 was about six bucks per gallon and a car with an oxygen sensor can't use leaded fuel. RLE ** My 74 is pre-cat made for leaded gas engine. I believe 74 was the final yr for leaded at least in MBZ's. Thirsty but worth it...225 hp can break the rear end loose in all gears. DBV, old and grey in a chick magnet what a waste information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Both 5w40 and 15w40 should act like straight 40 weight when they are (all) hot. The difference between the two is that when the 5w40 is cold, it behaves like 5 weight at the same temperature (whatever is specified), and the 15w40 behaves like 15 weight... In between the specified low and high temperatures, the viscosities will be in-between the low value and the high value. Iirc, the M1 formula M is only available in 5w40, and is MB 229.51 approved (for all MB's) The current FASP (factory approved service products) list should show for certain. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 24, 2010, at 10:16, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I needed oil for our '91 300D (182K mi) and finally found some at Advance Auto - M1 Turbo Truck in 5W40. I hesitated at 1st but the bottle says substitute for 15W40 I haven't seen this before. The present oil (15W40 M1) has about 4k on it so I'm getting ready. But since we're having 100F days here I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put a 5W in it? I'm seeing oil pressure around 1.5 bar when idling at 210F. any comments? Thx LarryT 91 300D Import - Export Putting Buyers Sellers Together -- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. But what's in the bottle? Is it recycled? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues
Tomorrow through a week from today. Drop me a note when you go next month, I've got to go out a couple more times this year but I don't remember exactly when. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:09:03 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues Message-ID: aanlktikbwfo6kagps0lcrbzmehrwutllfoh2bxef5...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 so when are you there? I have to be in Corona/Anaheim end of next month. Bob R On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: This is my quarterly trip to Burbank... No rental car, no nuthin... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
M1 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck has been so named for at least 4 years... The 5w40 weight has been around much longer than that but under the other name as noted in my other message. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:58 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Message-ID: df50b4e1527c4a1481a8aff628203...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Dwight - You wrote thought you were the oil guy :-) I kinda saw that coming! But I learned long ago there's always someone who knows more than I do - which is true for anyone IMO. Where are you located? (I know, I could look it up, but where's the fun it that?) I guess the Richmond Va area rec'd the new formulations first? I need to check the M1 site to see what they say. Rich mentioned a thread about oil recently - I missed it. It's been a tough summer. I've been preoccupied - the knee I had replaced last June is failing - so mobility is harder at the time I need to be up and around - plus, I'm doing some new stuff work wise which takes a lot of time. I'll either get a new knee next month or a spacer (Yuck - that's a bad option) which will be needed if infection is found during the surgery. Pre-surgery tests have been negative, but the doc is very cautious. If the spacer is used, it'll be in for 2-3 months and I won't be able to put weight on it. Fun, Huh? I'll be looking for that sample -- ;-) LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
One more oil post-did the M1 15-50 become 15-50 extended or EP or something like hat? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:13 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts M1 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck has been so named for at least 4 years... The 5w40 weight has been around much longer than that but under the other name as noted in my other message. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:58 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Message-ID: df50b4e1527c4a1481a8aff628203...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Dwight - You wrote thought you were the oil guy :-) I kinda saw that coming! But I learned long ago there's always someone who knows more than I do - which is true for anyone IMO. Where are you located? (I know, I could look it up, but where's the fun it that?) I guess the Richmond Va area rec'd the new formulations first? I need to check the M1 site to see what they say. Rich mentioned a thread about oil recently - I missed it. It's been a tough summer. I've been preoccupied - the knee I had replaced last June is failing - so mobility is harder at the time I need to be up and around - plus, I'm doing some new stuff work wise which takes a lot of time. I'll either get a new knee next month or a spacer (Yuck - that's a bad option) which will be needed if infection is found during the surgery. Pre-surgery tests have been negative, but the doc is very cautious. If the spacer is used, it'll be in for 2-3 months and I won't be able to put weight on it. Fun, Huh? I'll be looking for that sample -- ;-) LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 5w40
I don't think the Boron tracer was used to differentiate a retail vs commerical offerings. If I remember, the Boron tracer helped differentiate CAT DEO 5w40 from Mobil branded 5w40. I have not had much success with the 0w40 and have stuck with 5w40 occassionally using 15w50 in some MB's. My Jeep 4.0, Subaru, Kubotas, and Dodge truck all get some variant of Mobil 5w40 or Chevron or Mobil 15w40. The farm equipment generally gets 15w40. With new emissions requirements, I believe the Delvac formulations are now different whereas before we believed them to be the same. -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:23:18 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] M1 5w40 We used to go through this all the time, I'm glad we're down to a couple times a year. IIRC Marshall said there were 3 MB blessed M1 formulations, 0w40, 15w50 and 5w40. What is now bottled as 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck used to be 5w40 Truck and SUV (that name is now used on a 5w30 I believe) and is the same stuff (less a boron tracer) as Delvac 1. Supposedly Delvac 1 met a slightly more stringent spec than the 0w40 or 15w50 but all are good oils. My '85 190D had a steady diet of 5w40 for 90,000 miles with no issues whatsoever. I liked it because it was thin and allowed easy starts in the winter time while not pouring out of ever seam like the 0w40. My '83 240D back before I went super discount had at some point each of the M1 formulations. The 0w40 made the car start much better in extreme (-20F) cold but leaked very badly even back before that engine leaked at its worst. 15w50 leaked much less and was still easier to start with in the winter time than conventional oil and the 5w40 was someplace in the middle. I get M1 5w40 at Autozone, about once a month they have a deal with 5 quarts and a filter for $25 at which point I usually get 10 quarts (five in the morning and five in the afternoon). I usually get a filter for the Ranger and put it in the truck when that goes to Spee-Dee for a change for which they credit me $5. I've also been using M1 5w40 in the motorcycles. When I first changed to it I noticed that shifts got a little more crisp. I also think my Honda CB900f has gotten a bit easier to start. Its a 4cyl and those bikes are notorious for hard cold starts and sometimes difficult restarts when fully warm. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:16:57 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Message-ID: 210e1d6de6da49368c0d6a1ebecc4...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I needed oil for our '91 300D (182K mi) and finally found some at Advance Auto - M1 Turbo Truck in 5W40. I hesitated at 1st but the bottle says substitute for 15W40 I haven't seen this before. The present oil (15W40 M1) has about 4k on it so I'm getting ready. But since we're having 100F days here I'm wondering if it's a good idea to put a 5W in it? I'm seeing oil pressure around 1.5 bar when idling at 210F. any comments? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues
10-4. On Jul 24, 2010 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Tomorrow through a week from today. Drop me a note when you go next month, I've got to go out a couple more times this year but I don't remember exactly when. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:09:03 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject:... aanlktikbwfo6kagps0lcrbzmehrwutllfoh2bxef5...@mail.gmail.comaanlktikbwfo6kagps0lcrbzmehrwutllfoh2bxef5%2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 so when are you there? I have to be in Corona/Anaheim end of next month. Bob R On Sat, Jul 24, 201... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.oki... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL Scam?
Does this smell like a scam to you? from WILLIAM SANDRA williamsandr...@gmail.com to Norman Benz okdon...@gmail.com date Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM subject Re: Mercedes 190D 1984 project car - $600 (Norman, OK) Date: 2010-07-24, 12:19PM CDT Reply to: mailed-by gmail.com signed-by gmail.com hide details 3:44 PM (16 minutes ago) Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible. 1.Name to be on the payment _2.Home address__ City_State _ Zip Code___3.Cell phone #__I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and will receive your calls via email ** Thanks -- Hello, i will like to know if you still have it for sale? -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Totaled Car
It just occurred that I had not updated the list on our Altima being totaled last month. Here's how it played out: It took the stealership almost two weeks to get the car checked out. I had to wail on them to the point where they wouldn't take my calls. Too bad the claims person at the insurance company we made the claim against was on vacation - I think she could have pushed them to get things done in more timely manner. Anyway, more about that shortly. I got a call from their settlement person, who gave me the amount they would total the car out at (about $5300). Once I sent them the title they would send me the check by overnight carrier. I did so and received the check shortly after. Very prompt and accommodating. I had also made a claim against them for the per diem, arguing that even though they were willing to provide a rental for my son, he couldn't do it as he was not 18. My point was that he had to rely on friends and acquaintances to haul him around for the duration of his stay, thereby incurring expenses to do so. They paid us $25/day for the duration of the claim period, which was about three weeks. I think we got about $600.00 for that. Now the last thing - his return airfare. Since it's the responsibility of the insurer at fault to make you whole I'm thinking they should pay for his return fare, since his car was totaled and it would have been his way back. They balked a little on this, but prevailing wisdom ruled, and they reimbursed me for the cost of his airfare, too. All in all it was not an unpleasant experience. The only bad part was trying to work with the dealer they had the car taken to, as they were total asses. I fixed their wagon, however, as I expressed my displeasure about this to the claims person, who had someone call me and take down all of the information (including dates, times, and names) to follow up. Apparently, this stealership has just recently signed on to work with this insurer, and they were very interested in feedback regarding their work. Anyway, the youngster now drives a really nice red 2005 Ford Focus ZR5 SES that I found for him through a local Ford dealer I know. Despite being a bad experience, it ended up being a good one, for the most part. The insurer was Encompass. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Totaled Car
LWB250 wrote: I got a call from their settlement person, who gave me the amount they would total the car out at (about $5300). Once I sent them the title they would send me the check by overnight carrier. I did so and received the check shortly after. Very prompt and accommodating. When my parents' car got totaled last year, that's what Farm Bureau wanted to do. Give the free and clear title in exchange for a verbal promise of a check. But that's how we do business. Well, the way I do business is not to give away my car without a written agreement. I think they ended up sending the check to the agent, who exchanged title for check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
It is beschtunkende-run away. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] CL Scam? Does this smell like a scam to you? from WILLIAM SANDRA williamsandr...@gmail.com to Norman Benz okdon...@gmail.com date Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM subject Re: Mercedes 190D 1984 project car - $600 (Norman, OK) Date: 2010-07-24, 12:19PM CDT Reply to: mailed-by gmail.com signed-by gmail.com hide details 3:44 PM (16 minutes ago) Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible. 1.Name to be on the payment _2.Home address__ City_State _ Zip Code___3.Cell phone #__I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and will receive your calls via email ** Thanks -- Hello, i will like to know if you still have it for sale? -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:01:34 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Does this smell like a scam to you? I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Hmmm ... but it's not sold yet. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank. Fine, but he doesn't get the car or the title until it clears Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:06:07 -0400 Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net wrote: It is beschtunkende What does that mean? I can't find a page that knows that word. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
Craig McCluskey wrote: Fine, but he doesn't get the car or the title until it clears Sometimes, fake cashier's checks bounce 2-3 months after depositing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
Yup - per the ad, cash only, and the ad stays up till the tranaction is complete. *http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1860825396.html* On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:01:34 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Does this smell like a scam to you? I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Hmmm ... but it's not sold yet. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank. Fine, but he doesn't get the car or the title until it clears Craig -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
I read that in the Craigs List fraud page. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Fine, but he doesn't get the car or the title until it clears Sometimes, fake cashier's checks bounce 2-3 months after depositing. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
This one DOES sound like a Nigerian...use of the word advert, I will like to know... Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] CL Scam? Does this smell like a scam to you? from WILLIAM SANDRA williamsandr...@gmail.com to Norman Benz okdon...@gmail.com date Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM subject Re: Mercedes 190D 1984 project car - $600 (Norman, OK) Date: 2010-07-24, 12:19PM CDT Reply to: mailed-by gmail.com signed-by gmail.com hide details 3:44 PM (16 minutes ago) Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible. 1.Name to be on the payment _2.Home address__ City_State _ Zip Code___3.Cell phone #__I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and will receive your calls via email ** Thanks -- Hello, i will like to know if you still have it for sale? -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
It's very odd sounding. For private party car sales I'd ask for cash, or a check drawn on a local bank and you meet at the bank to cash it and sign over the title. Allan OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Does this smell like a scam to you? from WILLIAM SANDRA williamsandr...@gmail.com to Norman Benz okdon...@gmail.com date Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM subject Re: Mercedes 190D 1984 project car - $600 (Norman, OK) Date: 2010-07-24, 12:19PM CDT Reply to: mailed-by gmail.com signed-by gmail.com hide details 3:44 PM (16 minutes ago) Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible. 1.Name to be on the payment _2.Home address__ City_State _ Zip Code___3.Cell phone #__I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and will receive your calls via email ** Thanks -- Hello, i will like to know if you still have it for sale? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?
The belt has to be REALLY tight, otherwise it will flop around and make noise that sounds like the compressor is going out. Rich Thomas wrote: The Mamabenz threw the compressor belt the other day. I recharged the system (converted to 134) a coupla weeks back and it was BLOWING COLD (sorta) but the compressor was making graunching sounds, and the belt was squeaking and sorta floppy, though it seemed fairly tight at rest. I figured the compressor was on its last. Probably why the belt let go. I have a new set of belts to replace them all, so was gonna do that anyway, but probably should get a new compressor to keep mama happy. I have not particularly followed all the discussion on that -- what compressor would be appropriate or readily available (i.e., somewhat affordable), and considering the 134 conversion. The 79TD has a compressor on it that seemed to work the one time I put in a can of R12 (which soon leaked out), but don't know if that is where it was leaking or what. Possible swap? Or one from a junker? Or a new one of some sort? Or one of those japcar compressors? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
Classic scam. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: This one DOES sound like a Nigerian...use of the word advert, I will like to know... Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] CL Scam? Does this smell like a scam to you? from WILLIAM SANDRA williamsandr...@gmail.com to Norman Benz okdon...@gmail.com date Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM subject Re: Mercedes 190D 1984 project car - $600 (Norman, OK) Date: 2010-07-24, 12:19PM CDT Reply to: mailed-by gmail.com signed-by gmail.com hide details 3:44 PM (16 minutes ago) Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible. 1.Name to be on the payment _2.Home address__ City_State _ Zip Code___3.Cell phone #__I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and will receive your calls via email ** Thanks -- Hello, i will like to know if you still have it for sale? -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Totaled Car
I should have mentioned that they sent me a settlement statement in advance with all the details spelled out. I did resist when she first told me that I had to send them the executed title. Then she mentioned that the statement would be sent to me overnight for review, as I had to sign off on it and send it with the title. Dan --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totaled Car To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:38 PM LWB250 wrote: I got a call from their settlement person, who gave me the amount they would total the car out at (about $5300). Once I sent them the title they would send me the check by overnight carrier. I did so and received the check shortly after. Very prompt and accommodating. When my parents' car got totaled last year, that's what Farm Bureau wanted to do. Give the free and clear title in exchange for a verbal promise of a check. But that's how we do business. Well, the way I do business is not to give away my car without a written agreement. I think they ended up sending the check to the agent, who exchanged title for check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
yes, it is a scam. OK Don wrote: Does this smell like a scam to you? from WILLIAM SANDRA williamsandr...@gmail.com to Norman Benz okdon...@gmail.com date Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM subject Re: Mercedes 190D 1984 project car - $600 (Norman, OK) Date: 2010-07-24, 12:19PM CDT Reply to: mailed-by gmail.com signed-by gmail.com hide details 3:44 PM (16 minutes ago) Thanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible. 1.Name to be on the payment _2.Home address__ City_State _ Zip Code___3.Cell phone #__I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and will receive your calls via email ** Thanks -- Hello, i will like to know if you still have it for sale? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3025 - Release Date: 07/24/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?
What does REALLY mean? Like how much play at the middle once it is tight.? --R On 7/24/2010 6:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The belt has to be REALLY tight, otherwise it will flop around and make noise that sounds like the compressor is going out. Rich Thomas wrote: The Mamabenz threw the compressor belt the other day. I recharged the system (converted to 134) a coupla weeks back and it was BLOWING COLD (sorta) but the compressor was making graunching sounds, and the belt was squeaking and sorta floppy, though it seemed fairly tight at rest. I figured the compressor was on its last. Probably why the belt let go. I have a new set of belts to replace them all, so was gonna do that anyway, but probably should get a new compressor to keep mama happy. I have not particularly followed all the discussion on that -- what compressor would be appropriate or readily available (i.e., somewhat affordable), and considering the 134 conversion. The 79TD has a compressor on it that seemed to work the one time I put in a can of R12 (which soon leaked out), but don't know if that is where it was leaking or what. Possible swap? Or one from a junker? Or a new one of some sort? Or one of those japcar compressors? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?
well I thought I had one on really tight one time, did not move much at all with engine off. When running, it sounds like the compressor was about to go out. So, I tightened it just a little more and it is now quiet. Rich Thomas wrote: What does REALLY mean? Like how much play at the middle once it is tight.? --R On 7/24/2010 6:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The belt has to be REALLY tight, otherwise it will flop around and make noise that sounds like the compressor is going out. Rich Thomas wrote: The Mamabenz threw the compressor belt the other day. I recharged the system (converted to 134) a coupla weeks back and it was BLOWING COLD (sorta) but the compressor was making graunching sounds, and the belt was squeaking and sorta floppy, though it seemed fairly tight at rest. I figured the compressor was on its last. Probably why the belt let go. I have a new set of belts to replace them all, so was gonna do that anyway, but probably should get a new compressor to keep mama happy. I have not particularly followed all the discussion on that -- what compressor would be appropriate or readily available (i.e., somewhat affordable), and considering the 134 conversion. The 79TD has a compressor on it that seemed to work the one time I put in a can of R12 (which soon leaked out), but don't know if that is where it was leaking or what. Possible swap? Or one from a junker? Or a new one of some sort? Or one of those japcar compressors? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3025 - Release Date: 07/24/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crash safety
.Tell me about that old rusty MB and a 2005 MB. I wonder if there is a way to do that type of filmed crash test report. That might be interesting, although, I doubt if they have cut back on their infamous crush zones... Instead of all this whistling in the dark about how safe the old cars are, in general, why don't you go to Youtube and observe the IIHS barrier crash tests on the newest cars. And some vs the old stuff. The best of all is the 1963 Impala vs A 2009 Impala. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yeah, right
...My 74 is pre-cat made for leaded gas engine.? I believe 74 was the final yr for leaded at least in MBZ's.?? Thirsty but worth it...225 hp can break the rear end loose in all gears.. My '73 450SE had 195hp according to the owner's manual and drank gas like I don't know what. Where does your extra 30hp come from or is it gray-market car? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Audi?
What are those things that look like diesel injection lines on the right side? I thought it was only available as a 2.3L gasser in 1987. http://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/1856898381.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audi?
KJet! On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: What are those things that look like diesel injection lines on the right side? I thought it was only available as a 2.3L gasser in 1987. http://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/1856898381.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Buick pics
The replacement for the 300E. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick# -- When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. -- Oscar Wilde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buick pics
Wonko the Sane wrote: The replacement for the 300E. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick# I thought you were buying a LeSabre. http://oldrifles.com/fren-10-1_70.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 450 SL--Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 PM From: relng...@aol.com ...My 74 is pre-cat made for leaded gas engine.? I believe 74 was the final yr for leaded at least in MBZ's.?? Thirsty but worth it...225 hp can break the rear end loose in all gears.. My '73 450SE had 195hp according to the owner's manual and drank gas like I don't know what. Where does your extra 30hp come from or is it gray-market car? RLE ** No nothing gray about it. I am too lazy to look up the spec, but I believe 225 hp was the output for the 74. DBV, so there information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crash safety
I've seen that one, scary. Makes me glad I drive a modern car. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buick pics
That IS a LeSabre, a 1998 LeSabre Limited. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: The replacement for the 300E. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick# I thought you were buying a LeSabre. http://oldrifles.com/fren-10-1_70.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. -- Oscar Wilde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buick pics
Wonko the Sane wrote: That IS a LeSabre, a 1998 LeSabre Limited. My LeSabre is a 1866 French Army model with bayonet lug, the last of the rifle mountable French battle sabers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buick pics
Looks like there is a CLASSY car behind it --- On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: The replacement for the 300E. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick#http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buick pics
white bread --R On 7/24/2010 8:44 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: The replacement for the 300E. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick# ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
Given the wording I would say scam, note they make no mention of the car they want to buy, don't indicate that they want to see/drive the car and it just seems like an standard scamail, spewed out by the thousands. However one way to see if it's a scam is to google their email address, which in this case does not come up, or use the body of the email and google that and guess what, entering: hanks for the prompt response to my mail.I will be buying from you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank .I will need the following details to mail the payment as soon as possible. 1.Name to be on the payment _2.Home address__ City_State _ Zip Code___3.Cell phone #__I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your money .I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will be delivered within 2-3 working days.** I use a hearing impaired phone # and will receive your calls via email ** Thanks Brings up 616 results, hmmnh busy buyer. I would recommend not replying, if they are really interested in the car they will write again. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yes, it is a scam. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buick pics
Yawn Wonko the Sane wrote: The replacement for the 300E. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick# -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buick pics
Yawn next time you come to Jefferson, Kleb -- take a test drive. 5x the car that POS you sold me is. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Yawn Wonko the Sane wrote: The replacement for the 300E. http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Buick# -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. -- Oscar Wilde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crash safety
Peter wrote: I've seen that one, scary. Makes me glad I drive a modern car. Yeah. Eliminate any hazard. Eliminate any danger. Well planned life of luxury with zero complications or chance of complication sounds... boring. No thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Totaled Car
Last time I dealt with insurance (been a few years), state farm wanted you to come in, and they cut the check for you after seeing the title and photo id etc -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 24, 2010, at 17:38, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: LWB250 wrote: I got a call from their settlement person, who gave me the amount they would total the car out at (about $5300). Once I sent them the title they would send me the check by overnight carrier. I did so and received the check shortly after. Very prompt and accommodating. When my parents' car got totaled last year, that's what Farm Bureau wanted to do. Give the free and clear title in exchange for a verbal promise of a check. But that's how we do business. Well, the way I do business is not to give away my car without a written agreement. I think they ended up sending the check to the agent, who exchanged title for check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Yeah and it lost all c ratings... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 24, 2010, at 15:20, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net wrote: One more oil post-did the M1 15-50 become 15-50 extended or EP or something like hat? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:13 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts M1 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck has been so named for at least 4 years... The 5w40 weight has been around much longer than that but under the other name as noted in my other message. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:46:58 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Message-ID: df50b4e1527c4a1481a8aff628203...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Dwight - You wrote thought you were the oil guy :-) I kinda saw that coming! But I learned long ago there's always someone who knows more than I do - which is true for anyone IMO. Where are you located? (I know, I could look it up, but where's the fun it that?) I guess the Richmond Va area rec'd the new formulations first? I need to check the M1 site to see what they say. Rich mentioned a thread about oil recently - I missed it. It's been a tough summer. I've been preoccupied - the knee I had replaced last June is failing - so mobility is harder at the time I need to be up and around - plus, I'm doing some new stuff work wise which takes a lot of time. I'll either get a new knee next month or a spacer (Yuck - that's a bad option) which will be needed if infection is found during the surgery. Pre-surgery tests have been negative, but the doc is very cautious. If the spacer is used, it'll be in for 2-3 months and I won't be able to put weight on it. Fun, Huh? I'll be looking for that sample -- ;-) LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
