Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Nice tip Philip. I had a master machine shop guy tell me some of that many years ago but he didn't explain it and I failed to grasp it well enough to use it to my benefit. You did good, now I'll use it. Thanks Harry Reusing copper seal rings generally works fine _IF_ you anneal the copper before re-installing. Since copper work hardens, and hardens if it is heated and allowed to cool slowly (opposite of iron) then the process to anneal is to get it hot and cool it quickly. I learned this trick when working on light aircraft. 1. Fire up a propane torch (gas stove, ox-acetylene, etc) 2. Hold the ring in the flame. Don't use your fingers. :) I like using a wire 'cause it doesn't act as a heat sink and the ring heats up pretty evenly. 3. Once the copper reaches glowing red, quench it in water. (Be careful in sunlight. It can be harder to see the glow and its possible to make the copper molten.) Now the copper is full-soft and will easily conform to the sealing surfaces. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 140
The slip clutches can wear out and fail; had it happen on a 91 corolla; back in 2000, the motor alone was $300. With the w210 (canbus versions), the rear motors are smart insofar as they have the door control module integrated with them. The fronts are separate from the door control module. The only programming required is to run the window to the limit and hold the switch for a few seconds (not all the way down into express; just the normal rolldown). Not doing this only disables the express up/down feature on that window. (you have to do the same thing when reconnecting the battery and it is documented in the OM. I believe the mechanism used for the limit is a magnet on the motor shaft, a hall effect sensor, and a revolution-counter... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 11, 2010, at 19:56, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Is that the senses when your finger is on the glass and doesn't pinch it, but when it goes defective the window refuses to move at all system? If so, whatever happened to a simple current sense that shuts down the motor, or a slip clutch? Walt On Dec 11, 2010 7:48 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Lexus has them too, in some models. Not just argon filled, but they are colored as well, so you have to get one that matches the rest... They also have smart window motors, although I don't know if they are as much of a hassle as MBs or not. Can you spell S..T...U..P...I...D? The numbskulls who thought this stuff up forgot that one of the reasons people (yeah, even rich ones) bought them because they hold their value so well. Grossly expensive replacements for stuff that breaks all the time and cannot be fixed but has to be swapped out kill resale value, and the idea of dumping a hundred grand on a car with no resale value might seem reasonable to a street walker turned movie star, but business people with lots of money HAVE lots of money because the watch every single penny of it. Disposable luxury cars only work if you just lease them, and then the dealer or manufacturer is stuck with a huge loss. Teenybopper marketing gone wild! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Ach good thing I pay AAA. (10% off @ NAPA)... BTW, MBNA only wants to tow you to a dealer... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 11, 2010, at 13:34, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I got a letter from MBNA saying that they are expanding coverage by dropping the service for anyone who does not get their car regularly serviced at a MB stealership. If your car is under warranty, you are still covered. If you don't buy your car from a stealership you will never be covered. The MB Roadside Assistance was a cool thing. Now it is not. RIP MB Roadside Assistance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Very Cool - thanks for sharing that trick! Now that I have a proper blue wrench, I can do neat stuff like this... -Max From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 1:25:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives! Craig wrote: I did not have the correct size of copper sealing rings for the banjo fittings, so I re-used the old ones. There is a slow weeping of gasoline from the lower banjo on the lower fuel pump. I got a new one of the smaller, check valve-to-pump copper sealing rings and installed that. Then I redid the banjo fitting and tried running the engine again. The torrent of gasoline had stopped, but the banjo fitting on the lower pump was weeping gasoline. After REALLY TIGHTENING that, the weeping stopped and I called it good. Reusing copper seal rings generally works fine _IF_ you anneal the copper before re-installing. Since copper work hardens, and hardens if it is heated and allowed to cool slowly (opposite of iron) then the process to anneal is to get it hot and cool it quickly. I learned this trick when working on light aircraft. 1. Fire up a propane torch (gas stove, ox-acetylene, etc) 2. Hold the ring in the flame. Don't use your fingers. :) I like using a wire 'cause it doesn't act as a heat sink and the ring heats up pretty evenly. 3. Once the copper reaches glowing red, quench it in water. (Be careful in sunlight. It can be harder to see the glow and its possible to make the copper molten.) Now the copper is full-soft and will easily conform to the sealing surfaces. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 140
We are NOT going to have any flame wars. On 12/12/2010 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you say you want to start a flame war? h, well, ok. you lead and i will follow -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
- fog lights aimed too low Are they, really? If they're lighting up any road such that you could drive faster than about 20MPH with them alone, then they're mis-aimed IMHO. And don't even get me started on all those wretched Subies and Dodges that don't even have shrouds in their 'fog' lamps, which are much more like blinding high beams mounted down low than anything suitable for use in extremely foggy conditions. On an MB, if you find yourself needing to open your driver's door in order to see the stripe, in order to stay on the road as you creep along, you can turn on the fog lamps instead (and perhaps turn off the lows) and creep along in more safety and comfort. _That_ is what fog lights are for. They should feel absolutely useless in any normal conditions, and absolutely priceless when they really are needed. - speedometer that makes ticking noise -- I think it's from the odometer because I think I noticed the 1/10s digit moving irregularly in synchronism with the ticking. I hope this doesn't mean removing the instrument cluster and fixing the odometer. The electronic speedometers do tick. There's a stepper motor that drives the odometer chain. Our later 107's and the 126's do this. The high-miles 107 ticks louder than the others. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:25:49 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Reusing copper seal rings generally works fine _IF_ you anneal the copper before re-installing. Thanks, Fred! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire decision time: 195/65 or 205/60?
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i run 18s on my 124. like 245/40/18 or something around there Really? How'd you manage it without them rubbing? I scored a set of 500E rims and good tires for practically nothing that I'd like to put on my 300E, but I don't see how a tire that fat is going to fit without flaring the fenders or at least rolling the inner lip. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake line flush
I'd only use brake fluid; anything that doesn't move when you flush with brake fluid will not move once the system is back together. -Max From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 6:53:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] Brake line flush Actually, clutch line, not brake line this time - but I'm thinking about brakes too. So I'm about to replace the clutch master and slave cylinder (parts in route from Rusty). So while I have the cylinders off the line, I was thinking it could be a good idea to flush any rust, crud, etc. Any suggestions on a suitable fluid? Water? I'm concerned about getting it _all_ out before the real stuff goes back in. Brake fluid? Will it dissolve any of the crud? Denature alcohol? Acetone? Diesel/kerosene? Thoughts and suggestions welcome. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oh Sh....
So what did you get? -Max From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 11:40:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] Oh Sh http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/2108702727.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:10:19 -0700 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: but the banjo fitting on the lower pump was weeping gasoline. After REALLY TIGHTENING that, the weeping stopped and I called it good. I found when replacing the soft lines from the accumulators to the struts on my 500SEL that the torque specs for the banjo bolts in the FSM were ridiculously low. I was using new copper washers, but still had to tighten the heck out of them to get them not to leak. Probably about 50 lb-ft versus the M-B spec of 20 or so. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Same with the ATF cooler lines at the trans on the 123 240D. but in that case the banjo bolts stretch at about 30. It is really hard to get them to hold even with new bolts and washers. Most other banjo bolts will hold well On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:10:19 -0700 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: but the banjo fitting on the lower pump was weeping gasoline. After REALLY TIGHTENING that, the weeping stopped and I called it good. I found when replacing the soft lines from the accumulators to the struts on my 500SEL that the torque specs for the banjo bolts in the FSM were ridiculously low. I was using new copper washers, but still had to tighten the heck out of them to get them not to leak. Probably about 50 lb-ft versus the M-B spec of 20 or so. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and non-adjustable front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to change the water pump) If you are getting a full alignment at the dealer, and your car is 10-15 years old, expect several of the rubber bits to require replacement, with dealer parts. I'm not suggesting you or anyone should pass on needed replacement items, or put off properly servicing a car. I'm just saying, most likely by the time you have done a proper full alignment at the dealer on your older car, you will have well earned, and dare I say, paid for, your free Roadside Assistance. Dealers do not operate as charities for those of us who have a thing for German iron. Ed 300E On 12 December 2010 00:07, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming the stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts from the stealer does help MB. You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in part going towards covering your free roadside assist? Nothing in life is free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving you something, you're paying for it one way or another. Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just like your alignment, is helping to pay for the free stuff. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
I can't figure out why the W1241987 300TD wagons are going so cheap compared to the W123 300TDs. Marshall Booth always insisted the 124s were way superior in many ways to the 123 technology. I hate their looks, which is why I am a W123 300TD collector instead of seeking that perfect W124 300TD... On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Read your mail from a coupla days ago about whoever was looking for a new diesel. --R On 12/11/2010 6:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling? That car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this one, who knows... What is the price of the 20-minute-away one that you know? The seller has another white 1992 300D for twice the money. Tell us more about the perfect one 20 minutes away? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
If you're at home, and by an outlet, maybe hit it with a hairdryer for a few minutes? Not too hot, keep it moving, you don't want to damage the paint or anything. I've had that too, where a mild day allows water to get inside, then freezes. If I know it's going to be really cold, I try to park so that the drivers door is facing the sun the next morning. Even if cold, that bit of sun can sometimes make a difference I find. Ed 300E On 13 December 2010 10:54, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and non-adjustable front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to change the water pump) If you are getting a full alignment at the dealer, and your car is 10-15 years old, expect several of the rubber bits to require replacement, with dealer parts. I'm not suggesting you or anyone should pass on needed replacement items, or put off properly servicing a car. I'm just saying, most likely by the time you have done a proper full alignment at the dealer on your older car, you will have well earned, and dare I say, paid for, your free Roadside Assistance. Dealers do not operate as charities for those of us who have a thing for German iron. Ed 300E On 12 December 2010 00:07, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming the stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts from the stealer does help MB. You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in part going towards covering your free roadside assist? Nothing in life is free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving you something, you're paying for it one way or another. Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just like your alignment, is helping to pay for the free stuff. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
You can heat the key then put it in and try again. After enough repetitions it will go. Even is you just put it in your pocket to warm for a minute. I have never spent more than 5 min doing that and breathing on the doorlock while the key is warming in my pocket. I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and non-adjustable front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to change the water pump) If you are getting a full alignment at the dealer, and your car is 10-15 years old, expect several of the rubber bits to require replacement, with dealer parts. I'm not suggesting you or anyone should pass on needed replacement items, or put off properly servicing a car. I'm just saying, most likely by the time you have done a proper full alignment at the dealer on your older car, you will have well earned, and dare I say, paid for, your free Roadside Assistance. Dealers do not operate as charities for those of us who have a thing for German iron. Ed 300E On 12 December 2010 00:07, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming the stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts from the stealer does help MB. You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in part going towards covering your free roadside assist? Nothing in life is free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving you something, you're paying for it one way or another. Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just like your alignment, is helping to pay for the free stuff. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Heat the key with a cigarette lighter. Insert into lock, allow heat to transfer, repeat until lock turns. Allan On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54 -0500, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oh Sh....
First I need to buy a pocket gun before I visit, I don't want to run into the husband. --R On 12/13/2010 9:48 AM, Max Dillon wrote: So what did you get? -Max From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 11:40:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] Oh Sh http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/2108702727.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Unhappy Brake Noises
Last night I drove the 300SD (the mamabenz) and noticed it was making a grinding sound from the right rear brake. Checked it out, the inner pad was down to about 1/8 and the other was about 1/4. Rotor was OK. I was able to use a C-clamp to compress the outer piston a bit but the inner was not moving. I'm guessing the one piston is seized? Time for a new caliper? Not sure why that would make Unhappy Noises but is the only thing I can see. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 140
i would hope not, but some of these guys are just desperate for any sort of trouble On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: We are NOT going to have any flame wars. On 12/12/2010 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you say you want to start a flame war? h, well, ok. you lead and i will follow -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding
Update: after about 15(!) hours I finished the job. Stopped twice to eat. I was rather sore on Sunday morning... Sad news for OK Don: the Sir Tools $100 bushing press did not survive unscathed. It worked great on the '95 car, but my '87 wagon proved to be made of firmer stuff (or perhaps rustier/older). The center bolt, with Acme threads, stripped while trying to pull out the old bushing. I finally figured out a way to use the HF ball joint C-clamp in combination with the ST press and got'er done, but probably lost a few hours messing around with that bushing alone. A new center bolt will make the tool usable again - have sent inquiry to seller to see if they can do a warranty replacement. I was also slowed down because I ordered one wrong strut - I was confused about the whole M10 vs. M12 issue and mis-matched the bolt kit vs. the strut. I think that for future reference, the proper thing to do is order all M12 stuff when replacing all the struts - the wheel carrier mounting points will accept the M12 but would need the sleeves for the M10 bolts. While figuring out the problem, I spent some time consulting the FSM and then my order vs. the EPC and found my mistake. New order to Rusty forthcoming; next side SHOULD go faster. Of note, the outer bushing for the spring link was totally shot; these joints have accordion rubber boots on each side, and the old joint had no rubber boots left and thus no grease but lots and lots of play. -Max From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 2:26:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding Dieselvolk, This a.m. I dove into rebuilding the rear suspension on my '87 wagon. Started by pulling the spring link on the right side, and replaced the inner bushing using a piece of 3/8 acme threaded rod. Took about 2.5 hours to do that. Incidentally, the sleeve for the inner bushing is not tapered on this car like it was on my '95 E300. Replacement bushing is same part number as for the '95. The original bushing in this '87 300TD has a head at one end of the inner-most sleeve, which I had to cut off in order to get clearance to push the bushing out. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Headlights Q
Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
My theory is that the 124 wagons are more complex / more expensive to maintain and repair, but the owners for the most part are frugal (compared to average MB owner) and don't keep them up well so the end result is a car that will need a lot of $$ and time invested to bring back to a reasonable driving condition, where as a 123 wagon is much less costly to make the same repairs (one can easily spend $1000 on rear suspension parts for a 124, as I've recently discovered, twice...). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 11:00:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D? I can't figure out why the W1241987 300TD wagons are going so cheap compared to the W123 300TDs. Marshall Booth always insisted the 124s were way superior in many ways to the 123 technology. I hate their looks, which is why I am a W123 300TD collector instead of seeking that perfect W124 300TD... On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Read your mail from a coupla days ago about whoever was looking for a new diesel. --R On 12/11/2010 6:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling? That car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this one, who knows... What is the price of the 20-minute-away one that you know? The seller has another white 1992 300D for twice the money. Tell us more about the perfect one 20 minutes away? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
Really? I'm thinking of a 124 wagon, actually. Bob R On Dec 13, 2010 9:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: My theory is that the 124 wagons are more complex / more expensive to maintain and repair, but the owners for the most part are frugal (compared to average MB owner) and don't keep them up well so the end result is a car that will need a lot of $$ and time invested to bring back to a reasonable driving condition, where as a 123 wagon is much less costly to make the same repairs (one can easily spend $1000 on rear suspension parts for a 124, as I've recently discovered, twice...). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 11:00:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D? I can't figure out why the W1241987 300TD wagons are going so cheap compared to the W123 300TDs. Marshall Booth always insisted the 124s were way superior in many ways to the 123 technology. I hate their looks, which is why I am a W123 300TD collector instead of seeking that perfect W124 300TD... On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Read your mail from a coupla days ago about whoever was looking for a new diesel. --R On 12/11/2010 6:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling? That car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this one, who knows... What is the price of the 20-minute-away one that you know? The seller has another white 1992 300D for twice the money. Tell us more about the perfect one 20 minutes away? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
night vs. day Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unhappy Brake Noises
Bad wheel bearing? But it sounds like you may have a bad caliper too. Last night I drove the 300SD (the mamabenz) and noticed it was making a grinding sound from the right rear brake. Checked it out, the inner pad was down to about 1/8 and the other was about 1/4. Rotor was OK. I was able to use a C-clamp to compress the outer piston a bit but the inner was not moving. I'm guessing the one piston is seized? Time for a new caliper? Not sure why that would make Unhappy Noises but is the only thing I can see. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unhappy Brake Noises
Can you apply a little air pressure and get the stuck piston to move out? Once you can see the bore, you can condemn or rebuild. I finally have a small air compressor and used this method when I rebuilt the calipers on my '95 E300, works pretty slick but you need to modulate the pressure and use something other than fingers to 'catch' the piston. -Max (fingers much better now, thank you). From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 12:04:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] Unhappy Brake Noises Last night I drove the 300SD (the mamabenz) and noticed it was making a grinding sound from the right rear brake. Checked it out, the inner pad was down to about 1/8 and the other was about 1/4. Rotor was OK. I was able to use a C-clamp to compress the outer piston a bit but the inner was not moving. I'm guessing the one piston is seized? Time for a new caliper? Not sure why that would make Unhappy Noises but is the only thing I can see. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
I looked at a few real junkers before I bought my junker, $3000 on Ebay at the peak of the MB-diesel market frenzy a few years ago. -Max From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 12:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D? Really? I'm thinking of a 124 wagon, actually. Bob R On Dec 13, 2010 9:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: My theory is that the 124 wagons are more complex / more expensive to maintain and repair, but the owners for the most part are frugal (compared to average MB owner) and don't keep them up well so the end result is a car that will need a lot of $$ and time invested to bring back to a reasonable driving condition, where as a 123 wagon is much less costly to make the same repairs (one can easily spend $1000 on rear suspension parts for a 124, as I've recently discovered, twice...). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 11:00:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D? I can't figure out why the W1241987 300TD wagons are going so cheap compared to the W123 300TDs. Marshall Booth always insisted the 124s were way superior in many ways to the 123 technology. I hate their looks, which is why I am a W123 300TD collector instead of seeking that perfect W124 300TD... On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Read your mail from a coupla days ago about whoever was looking for a new diesel. --R On 12/11/2010 6:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling? That car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this one, who knows... What is the price of the 20-minute-away one that you know? The seller has another white 1992 300D for twice the money. Tell us more about the perfect one 20 minutes away? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Mao- You emailed me this weekend, do you still need it? -Rolf On 12/12/2010 10:01 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I finally did a search and found a torrent from the rooskies that had the entire manual set including the transmission manual - it might be in the CD set? Kleb - do you want a W123 manual in your system here for people to download? Or, should I just email it to people? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
There is a nice looking example on atlanta craigslist. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/2105913163.html -Rolf On 12/11/2010 04:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: I want a 124 diesel wagon I've decided. Help. Bob R On Dec 11, 2010 1:08 PM, Mountain Manmaontin@gmail.com wrote: --R wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html I like that. Are you in the neighborhood? And... what is with the white one for twice as much? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? -Rolf On 12/11/2010 09:45 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D Black - $2995 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another garage? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Heat the key with a cigarette lighter. Insert into lock, allow heat to transfer, repeat until lock turns. Allan On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54 -0500, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Rolf wrote: You emailed me this weekend, do you still need it? Thanks, no. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
How did the seller manage to upload 4 photos on CL? The car appears perfect except that it is IMO butt-ugly. I would also want to know what DOESN'T work in order to figure out what to pay. Andrew (ever the skeptic) On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? -Rolf On 12/11/2010 09:45 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D Black - $2995 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
I also noticed its missing the headlight wipers... You can always include HTML in a CL post. -Rolf On 12/13/2010 12:39 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: How did the seller manage to upload 4 photos on CL? The car appears perfect except that it is IMO butt-ugly. I would also want to know what DOESN'T work in order to figure out what to pay. Andrew (ever the skeptic) On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? -Rolf On 12/11/2010 09:45 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D Black - $2995 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
That is good but are they compatible. I assume so but it is too cold to mess with it right now. Randy On 13/12/2010 11:15 AM, Dieselhead wrote: night vs. day Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding
How much did the parts cost, roughly? Are the rear SLS struts the same as on the W123 300TD? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Update: after about 15(!) hours I finished the job. Stopped twice to eat. I was rather sore on Sunday morning... Sad news for OK Don: the Sir Tools $100 bushing press did not survive unscathed. It worked great on the '95 car, but my '87 wagon proved to be made of firmer stuff (or perhaps rustier/older). The center bolt, with Acme threads, stripped while trying to pull out the old bushing. I finally figured out a way to use the HF ball joint C-clamp in combination with the ST press and got'er done, but probably lost a few hours messing around with that bushing alone. A new center bolt will make the tool usable again - have sent inquiry to seller to see if they can do a warranty replacement. I was also slowed down because I ordered one wrong strut - I was confused about the whole M10 vs. M12 issue and mis-matched the bolt kit vs. the strut. I think that for future reference, the proper thing to do is order all M12 stuff when replacing all the struts - the wheel carrier mounting points will accept the M12 but would need the sleeves for the M10 bolts. While figuring out the problem, I spent some time consulting the FSM and then my order vs. the EPC and found my mistake. New order to Rusty forthcoming; next side SHOULD go faster. Of note, the outer bushing for the spring link was totally shot; these joints have accordion rubber boots on each side, and the old joint had no rubber boots left and thus no grease but lots and lots of play. -Max From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 2:26:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding Dieselvolk, This a.m. I dove into rebuilding the rear suspension on my '87 wagon. Started by pulling the spring link on the right side, and replaced the inner bushing using a piece of 3/8 acme threaded rod. Took about 2.5 hours to do that. Incidentally, the sleeve for the inner bushing is not tapered on this car like it was on my '95 E300. Replacement bushing is same part number as for the '95. The original bushing in this '87 300TD has a head at one end of the inner-most sleeve, which I had to cut off in order to get clearance to push the bushing out. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Philip wrote: How about a URL for the torrent? Either the original or from your system? Ya know... that should be possible, eh? Lemme ask the guru about making that happen. Or, I could email to you? Then you can put up the tranny torrent? The whole torrent is 410mb, the tranny torrent is 100mb. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
I could if I knew how... On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I also noticed its missing the headlight wipers... You can always include HTML in a CL post. -Rolf On 12/13/2010 12:39 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: How did the seller manage to upload 4 photos on CL? The car appears perfect except that it is IMO butt-ugly. I would also want to know what DOESN'T work in order to figure out what to pay. Andrew (ever the skeptic) On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? -Rolf On 12/11/2010 09:45 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D Black - $2995 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
If anyone has a manual for the 5spd getrag or LSD diffs, I would appreciate the sharing. On 12/13/2010 12:38 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Rolf wrote: You emailed me this weekend, do you still need it? Thanks, no. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? On the front right fender where they should be? I also noticed its missing the headlight wipers After 199x (where x=1, I believe) they were an option. You see a lot of 260Es without them (and without sunroof!). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:36 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another garage? An adhesive-backed foam insulating strip over the keyhole? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire decision time: 195/65 or 205/60?
they are just your standard sort of amg knockoff wheels and bolt up just fine On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i run 18s on my 124. like 245/40/18 or something around there Really? How'd you manage it without them rubbing? I scored a set of 500E rims and good tires for practically nothing that I'd like to put on my 300E, but I don't see how a tire that fat is going to fit without flaring the fenders or at least rolling the inner lip. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Isn't there some kind of lock deicer in a spray can? --R On 12/13/2010 12:36 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another garage? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Heat the key with a cigarette lighter. Insert into lock, allow heat to transfer, repeat until lock turns. Allan On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54 -0500, andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
PAH! Southerners know nothing... Take a propane torch and just touch the lock with it for a second (while its lit obviously) it'll melt the ice out easy peasy. No propane torch? Go get a wind proof butane lighter, same deal, hold it on longer. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54:24 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out Message-ID: aanlkti=r76puh_z8al2h0m9uvefu4e-rzktulahur...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
Dieselhead wrote: night vs. day Isn't H3 a single filament bulb? Did somebody put fog lamps in the headlamp mounts? Or did the old USA spec sealed beams say H3 on them? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Max Dillon wrote: Very Cool - thanks for sharing that trick! Now that I have a proper blue wrench, I can do neat stuff like this... It does not take much to get a little copper ring hot enough. A little jewelers butane torch would likely be enough. Even a cheap propane torch does well. If you use something that gets really hot, be careful not to liquify it! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Philip wrote: How about a URL for the torrent? Either the original or from your system? http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w123/214248-w123-body-om617a-factory-service-manuals.html About 3/4 of the way down the page the guy links to isohunt webpage where he links the piratebay torrent. The 2610 transmission manual is 100mb, the torrent is 410mb. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding
~$650 for a complete set of links and bushings and hardware, ~$300 for the subframe mounts and rear shocks for the sedan. The SLS struts for the 124 wagon are not the same as the 123 I'm pretty sure; I replaced my leaking struts last summer with a $150 used set in really nice condition. I'm sure I wouldn't pay the price for new struts, but I never asked. -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 12:41:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding How much did the parts cost, roughly? Are the rear SLS struts the same as on the W123 300TD? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Update: after about 15(!) hours I finished the job. Stopped twice to eat. I was rather sore on Sunday morning... Sad news for OK Don: the Sir Tools $100 bushing press did not survive unscathed. It worked great on the '95 car, but my '87 wagon proved to be made of firmer stuff (or perhaps rustier/older). The center bolt, with Acme threads, stripped while trying to pull out the old bushing. I finally figured out a way to use the HF ball joint C-clamp in combination with the ST press and got'er done, but probably lost a few hours messing around with that bushing alone. A new center bolt will make the tool usable again - have sent inquiry to seller to see if they can do a warranty replacement. I was also slowed down because I ordered one wrong strut - I was confused about the whole M10 vs. M12 issue and mis-matched the bolt kit vs. the strut. I think that for future reference, the proper thing to do is order all M12 stuff when replacing all the struts - the wheel carrier mounting points will accept the M12 but would need the sleeves for the M10 bolts. While figuring out the problem, I spent some time consulting the FSM and then my order vs. the EPC and found my mistake. New order to Rusty forthcoming; next side SHOULD go faster. Of note, the outer bushing for the spring link was totally shot; these joints have accordion rubber boots on each side, and the old joint had no rubber boots left and thus no grease but lots and lots of play. -Max From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 2:26:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding Dieselvolk, This a.m. I dove into rebuilding the rear suspension on my '87 wagon. Started by pulling the spring link on the right side, and replaced the inner bushing using a piece of 3/8 acme threaded rod. Took about 2.5 hours to do that. Incidentally, the sleeve for the inner bushing is not tapered on this car like it was on my '95 E300. Replacement bushing is same part number as for the '95. The original bushing in this '87 300TD has a head at one end of the inner-most sleeve, which I had to cut off in order to get clearance to push the bushing out. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
LOL @ gills totally looked and didnt see them. Even looked in 2 diff pics! You guys like that wagon I posted? -Rolf On 12/13/2010 12:47 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? On the front right fender where they should be? I also noticed its missing the headlight wipers After 199x (where x=1, I believe) they were an option. You see a lot of 260Es without them (and without sunroof!). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Philip wrote: How about a URL for the torrent? Either the original or from your system? http://www.vo2ov.com/Mercedes-W123-OM617-and-716-factory-service-manuals-quot-_65451.html?bookid=65451 Is a torrent some type of text file that I could read and provide link? This is the website that has the torrent, but all I get is a .torrent file with nothing I can read, except that it opens in my bit torrent client. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Max Dillon wrote: Very Cool - thanks for sharing that trick! Now that I have a proper blue wrench, I can do neat stuff like this... It does not take much to get a little copper ring hot enough. A little jewelers butane torch would likely be enough. That's how I do it. Mini butane torch in one hand, can of circuit-board freeze spray in the other. Lay the washer down on a clean patch of concrete and have at it. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
If somebody wants to get the files I don't mind hosting them, unless someone else will do so. I don't want to go to pirate bay or East european websites. Some are legit, but many are not. Philip wrote: How about a URL for the torrent? Either the original or from your system? http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w123/214248-w123-body-om617a-factory-service-manuals.html About 3/4 of the way down the page the guy links to isohunt webpage where he links the piratebay torrent. The 2610 transmission manual is 100mb, the torrent is 410mb. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
Rolf wrote: That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? How can you tell? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Dieselhead wrote: If somebody wants to get the files I don't mind hosting them, unless someone else will do so. I don't want to go to pirate bay or East european websites. Some are legit, but many are not. I have a W123 folder that came out of the torrent zip file - which I tossed, or it downloaded as a folder. Shall I zip and email to you? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
I was blind and didnt see the gills. Must be the fact that my eyeballs are frozen. -Rolf On 12/13/2010 02:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Rolf wrote: That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? How can you tell? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
You close enough to check it out? Looks good so I wonder how bad the left side is bashed and how bad the suspension/engine/trans is LOL @ gills totally looked and didnt see them. Even looked in 2 diff pics! You guys like that wagon I posted? -R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding
SLS 124 wagon struts are Very pricey. (Close to unobtanium) Rusty cut me a deal for new ones for the TE, but the price still hurt. ~$650 for a complete set of links and bushings and hardware, ~$300 for the subframe mounts and rear shocks for the sedan. The SLS struts for the 124 wagon are not the same as the 123 I'm pretty sure; I replaced my leaking struts last summer with a $150 used set in really nice condition. I'm sure I wouldn't pay the price for new struts, but I never asked. -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 12:41:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding How much did the parts cost, roughly? Are the rear SLS struts the same as on the W123 300TD? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Update: after about 15(!) hours I finished the job. Stopped twice to eat. I was rather sore on Sunday morning... Sad news for OK Don: the Sir Tools $100 bushing press did not survive unscathed. It worked great on the '95 car, but my '87 wagon proved to be made of firmer stuff (or perhaps rustier/older). The center bolt, with Acme threads, stripped while trying to pull out the old bushing. I finally figured out a way to use the HF ball joint C-clamp in combination with the ST press and got'er done, but probably lost a few hours messing around with that bushing alone. A new center bolt will make the tool usable again - have sent inquiry to seller to see if they can do a warranty replacement. I was also slowed down because I ordered one wrong strut - I was confused about the whole M10 vs. M12 issue and mis-matched the bolt kit vs. the strut. I think that for future reference, the proper thing to do is order all M12 stuff when replacing all the struts - the wheel carrier mounting points will accept the M12 but would need the sleeves for the M10 bolts. While figuring out the problem, I spent some time consulting the FSM and then my order vs. the EPC and found my mistake. New order to Rusty forthcoming; next side SHOULD go faster. Of note, the outer bushing for the spring link was totally shot; these joints have accordion rubber boots on each side, and the old joint had no rubber boots left and thus no grease but lots and lots of play. -Max From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 2:26:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding Dieselvolk, This a.m. I dove into rebuilding the rear suspension on my '87 wagon. Started by pulling the spring link on the right side, and replaced the inner bushing using a piece of 3/8 acme threaded rod. Took about 2.5 hours to do that. Incidentally, the sleeve for the inner bushing is not tapered on this car like it was on my '95 E300. Replacement bushing is same part number as for the '95. The original bushing in this '87 300TD has a head at one end of the inner-most sleeve, which I had to cut off in order to get clearance to push the bushing out. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
I think these have insert bulbs and are not sealed beams. I also assume they are not original as they have Volvo imprinted in the glass. The problem I have is that there is a huge difference between high and low beam. I find the low beam does not provide sufficient view ahead and unfortunately most of the time it is not possible to use high beam due to other traffic. So, I am looking to improve without breking the bank. I think I will order a set of the Bosch and see if it makes much difference. Randy On 13/12/2010 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Dieselhead wrote: night vs. day Isn't H3 a single filament bulb? Did somebody put fog lamps in the headlamp mounts? Or did the old USA spec sealed beams say H3 on them? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding
I really am repelled by that costly newfangled 1986 technology. Give me the 1979 stuff anyday. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: SLS 124 wagon struts are Very pricey. (Close to unobtanium) Rusty cut me a deal for new ones for the TE, but the price still hurt. ~$650 for a complete set of links and bushings and hardware, ~$300 for the subframe mounts and rear shocks for the sedan. The SLS struts for the 124 wagon are not the same as the 123 I'm pretty sure; I replaced my leaking struts last summer with a $150 used set in really nice condition. I'm sure I wouldn't pay the price for new struts, but I never asked. -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 12:41:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding How much did the parts cost, roughly? Are the rear SLS struts the same as on the W123 300TD? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Update: after about 15(!) hours I finished the job. Stopped twice to eat. I was rather sore on Sunday morning... Sad news for OK Don: the Sir Tools $100 bushing press did not survive unscathed. It worked great on the '95 car, but my '87 wagon proved to be made of firmer stuff (or perhaps rustier/older). The center bolt, with Acme threads, stripped while trying to pull out the old bushing. I finally figured out a way to use the HF ball joint C-clamp in combination with the ST press and got'er done, but probably lost a few hours messing around with that bushing alone. A new center bolt will make the tool usable again - have sent inquiry to seller to see if they can do a warranty replacement. I was also slowed down because I ordered one wrong strut - I was confused about the whole M10 vs. M12 issue and mis-matched the bolt kit vs. the strut. I think that for future reference, the proper thing to do is order all M12 stuff when replacing all the struts - the wheel carrier mounting points will accept the M12 but would need the sleeves for the M10 bolts. While figuring out the problem, I spent some time consulting the FSM and then my order vs. the EPC and found my mistake. New order to Rusty forthcoming; next side SHOULD go faster. Of note, the outer bushing for the spring link was totally shot; these joints have accordion rubber boots on each side, and the old joint had no rubber boots left and thus no grease but lots and lots of play. -Max From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 2:26:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] More W124 rear suspension rebuilding Dieselvolk, This a.m. I dove into rebuilding the rear suspension on my '87 wagon. Started by pulling the spring link on the right side, and replaced the inner bushing using a piece of 3/8 acme threaded rod. Took about 2.5 hours to do that. Incidentally, the sleeve for the inner bushing is not tapered on this car like it was on my '95 E300. Replacement bushing is same part number as for the '95. The original bushing in this '87 300TD has a head at one end of the inner-most sleeve, which I had to cut off in order to get clearance to push the bushing out. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
Bosch 7 H4s are great. They do have a distinct upper/left cutout thay may take some getting used to. I have used them since 1973, I think. Still have the originals and most of the subsequent ones. Silver is still good. For my bucks, at least when I bought em and they were made in der vaterland, they were the best. The ones you buy now may be made in lower slobovia, so who knows? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
sure, or I can set up an ftp site for you to put them in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
R A Bennell wrote: Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? I think H3 is high-beam or driving lights. H4 is hi/low beam. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
He did say he has high/low beams but the lows are really bad. I wonder if someone stuck in the high-beam lamps from a Volvo and used a dual-filament bulb. I don't recall if Volvo ever used separate high/low beam lamps, but that could explain problems with low beam performance. Allan On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:56 -0600, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: R A Bennell wrote: Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? I think H3 is high-beam or driving lights. H4 is hi/low beam. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
H3 can be single element or dual (Hi Low) H4, I believe can also be either depending on the bulb/reflector combination and application. R A Bennell wrote: Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? I think H3 is high-beam or driving lights. H4 is hi/low beam. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unhappy Brake Noises
Max Dillon wrote: Can you apply a little air pressure and get the stuck piston to move out? Once you can see the bore, you can condemn or rebuild. I finally have a small air compressor and used this method when I rebuilt the calipers on my '95 E300, works pretty slick but you need to modulate the pressure and use something other than fingers to 'catch' the piston. -Max (fingers much better now, thank you). Jim uses an old grease gun and water to avoid the explosion. -- Philip, thinking I should rig some fittings for my grease gun ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
The way torrents work is: Find a torrent from one of the many Torrent sites for the subject you are looking for - but before you do that, donload and install one of the torrent downloaders like utorrent or bittorrent (www.bittorrent.com) Click Download on the Torrent for the desired subject - the Open when the menu pops up. It will open Bit torrent or utorrent as you chose and request a location to save the downloaded file. it will take a while to download depending on how many people are also downloading the same file. After you download a file you are asked to leave your utorrent/bittorrent open so the file you downloaded can be downloaded by others. The more who do this, the faster downloads occur. I've had 1 hour TV programs download in 10 minutes and car images take weeks. Once the file is downloaded you can view it if the form is pdf or similar. If it is a rar file you will have to get a translator. But no big deal regardless. As with anything having to do with the net and downloads, it's a good idea to have a effective antivirus in effect. I use Norton provided by Comcast which has caught all the bugs so far. I know it is considered illegal to download copyrighted material - unless it is considered a library or a loan from a friend - then it's OK - but digital libraries are a no-no. Just so you'll know the official line.. Let me know if you have any questions. LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Mountain Man Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 2:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual Dieselhead wrote: If somebody wants to get the files I don't mind hosting them, unless someone else will do so. I don't want to go to pirate bay or East european websites. Some are legit, but many are not. I have a W123 folder that came out of the torrent zip file - which I tossed, or it downloaded as a folder. Shall I zip and email to you? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
My 78 240D has a recent rock hit in one headlight glass. The bulb is ok but the glass is toast. Now off to Rustyland for a replacement. Hpefully it's easy to replace - can't be too hard -- It's always something - LarryT 91 300D 78 240D -Original Message- From: Dieselhead Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 2:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q Bosch 7 H4s are great. They do have a distinct upper/left cutout thay may take some getting used to. I have used them since 1973, I think. Still have the originals and most of the subsequent ones. Silver is still good. For my bucks, at least when I bought em and they were made in der vaterland, they were the best. The ones you buy now may be made in lower slobovia, so who knows? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] frozen lock mechanism
...What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle?.. Bring out a pan of hot water and flow it over the lock area. Later, squirt in some sort of deicer other than what you were using. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
I've been told that torches and concrete don't play well together - the concrete can explode if heated too fast - but a mini-butane is probably safe... -Max From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 2:02:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives! On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Max Dillon wrote: Very Cool - thanks for sharing that trick! Now that I have a proper blue wrench, I can do neat stuff like this... It does not take much to get a little copper ring hot enough. A little jewelers butane torch would likely be enough. That's how I do it. Mini butane torch in one hand, can of circuit-board freeze spray in the other. Lay the washer down on a clean patch of concrete and have at it. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q 78 240D W123
after I sent this I began to think I am probably wrong about it having a bulb - it's probably a sealed beam - right? It's stock as far as I know LarryT 78 240D -Original Message- From: l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 3:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q My 78 240D has a recent rock hit in one headlight glass. The bulb is ok but the glass is toast. Now off to Rustyland for a replacement. Hpefully it's easy to replace - can't be too hard -- It's always something - LarryT 91 300D 78 240D -Original Message- From: Dieselhead Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 2:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q Bosch 7 H4s are great. They do have a distinct upper/left cutout thay may take some getting used to. I have used them since 1973, I think. Still have the originals and most of the subsequent ones. Silver is still good. For my bucks, at least when I bought em and they were made in der vaterland, they were the best. The ones you buy now may be made in lower slobovia, so who knows? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] caliper squeezing
...Rotor was OK. I was able to use a C-clamp to compress the outer piston a bit but the inner was not moving. I'm guessing the one piston is seized?.. Did you open the bleeder a tiny bit to allow the fluid behind the piston to escape? Not a good idea to push the crud in the caliper upstream. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
H3s? are you certain? H3 lamps are single-filament bulbs; what should be in there should be dual-filament lamps (like H4s) so you have High and Low beam from the same lamps. obviously some PO was screwing with your cars lamps; have you stood in front of them with the lights on in both High and Low to see what's actually lighting up? i've seen some examples where people have played games with putting Highs only in where the Fogs go, etc, but odds are better some DSPO took H3 lamps and tried to use them with H4 bulbs (which won't work well, as you're finding out)... no telling exactly how they'd do this since H3s have a single Pos wire lead and ground through the base as opposed to a 3-prong plug like H4s have, but it'll probably be pretty clear what's going on as soon as you pull the lamp housing out to see what's behind it. hopefully they didn't bugger up the wiring trying to use the wrong lamps! in any case, i'd recommend Cibié H4 lamps over anything else i've tried; we've got some in the family that are still performing well after a decade or more in use. Hella lamps always seemed like the difference between High and Low was too great and the lenses seemed like they cracked very quickly in all the cars our family has used them in (giving us the 'opportunity' to try something else). Sunpowers were terribly poor at directing light and harsh on glare for oncoming traffic. the rectangular IPFs i've tried also had this problem, as well as some others. if you're getting light out of the main lamps on both High and Low settings and it really is an H3 housing, chances are you have an H4 bulb in an H3 housing and need to get a proper H4 lamp housing to use with your H4 bulbs. get good ones, and you'll probably never need to replace them, and wonder why you've been living with such poor lighting for so long.;-) cheers! e On 13/Dec/10 09:07, R A Bennell wrote: Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
You've been told right. Actually it is entrained air and captured moisture that vaporize, causing the concrete to flake off very forcefully. I've been told that torches and concrete don't play well together - the concrete can explode if heated too fast - but a mini-butane is probably safe... -Max From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 2:02:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives! On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Max Dillon wrote: Very Cool - thanks for sharing that trick! Now that I have a proper blue wrench, I can do neat stuff like this... It does not take much to get a little copper ring hot enough. A little jewelers butane torch would likely be enough. That's how I do it. Mini butane torch in one hand, can of circuit-board freeze spray in the other. Lay the washer down on a clean patch of concrete and have at it. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
I can look again but I believe it says H3 on the lens. I thought that normally, 2 lamp systems had larger diameter than 4 lamp systems back in the day when we all used sealed beam lamps. Am I wrong? In any event, these definitely have both high and low beam. The 115 has only 2 lamps obviously apart from the fog lights. They work ok too as additional close light but not too good for travel at highway speeds - if I remember right, they also go out when one switches to low beam. I do not do a lot of night driving any more but find that I need much more light than I once did. I drove the MB back from the lake 2 summers ago in the dark and it was an awful trip. I felt like I was driving through a tunnel for a good part of it. Part is 2 lane and much of the 4 lane part is close enough to the other side that one cannot run on high beam most of the time. Add to that the concern about wildlife on the road and it is not a pleasant trip. So, I am looking for better light in case I have to do it again. I had a set of the Bosch in a Chevy back in about 1975 and remember them as being good. I also had a single one in my 1979 Goldwing. I think I still have it but only one so I don't think I want to do this until I have two and it won't get actually installed until April likely as it is cold here and the car is in the garage for the duration. I put the battery tender on it yesterday and that is about all I will likely do with it until the weather warms up a lot unless I decide to haul seats inside and work on them in the basement. Randy On 13/12/2010 2:40 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: H3s? are you certain? H3 lamps are single-filament bulbs; what should be in there should be dual-filament lamps (like H4s) so you have High and Low beam from the same lamps. obviously some PO was screwing with your cars lamps; have you stood in front of them with the lights on in both High and Low to see what's actually lighting up? i've seen some examples where people have played games with putting Highs only in where the Fogs go, etc, but odds are better some DSPO took H3 lamps and tried to use them with H4 bulbs (which won't work well, as you're finding out)... no telling exactly how they'd do this since H3s have a single Pos wire lead and ground through the base as opposed to a 3-prong plug like H4s have, but it'll probably be pretty clear what's going on as soon as you pull the lamp housing out to see what's behind it. hopefully they didn't bugger up the wiring trying to use the wrong lamps! in any case, i'd recommend Cibié H4 lamps over anything else i've tried; we've got some in the family that are still performing well after a decade or more in use. Hella lamps always seemed like the difference between High and Low was too great and the lenses seemed like they cracked very quickly in all the cars our family has used them in (giving us the 'opportunity' to try something else). Sunpowers were terribly poor at directing light and harsh on glare for oncoming traffic. the rectangular IPFs i've tried also had this problem, as well as some others. if you're getting light out of the main lamps on both High and Low settings and it really is an H3 housing, chances are you have an H4 bulb in an H3 housing and need to get a proper H4 lamp housing to use with your H4 bulbs. get good ones, and you'll probably never need to replace them, and wonder why you've been living with such poor lighting for so long.;-) cheers! e On 13/Dec/10 09:07, R A Bennell wrote: Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] caliper squeezing
I just bled them all (like 3 times) a coupla weeks ago, ran new fluid in so I think it is probably OK. --R On 12/13/2010 3:36 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Rotor was OK. I was able to use a C-clamp to compress the outer piston a bit but the inner was not moving. I'm guessing the one piston is seized?.. Did you open the bleeder a tiny bit to allow the fluid behind the piston to escape? Not a good idea to push the crud in the caliper upstream. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Mountain Man wrote: Philip wrote: How about a URL for the torrent? Either the original or from your system? Ya know... that should be possible, eh? Lemme ask the guru about making that happen. Or, I could email to you? Then you can put up the tranny torrent? The whole torrent is 410mb, the tranny torrent is 100mb. Eeek! No! Don't email it! Any attachment over 5 Mb is too big for my email! Torrent, ftp, or http work okay for download. I don't think anyone would want me to host it. Or, put in on Deposit Files - and let us each download it. http://depositfiles.com/en/ -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Or use DropBox. Let me know if you want to use this and I can send an invite and get us BOTH more space... https://www.dropbox.com Rick Or, put in on Deposit Files - and let us each download it. http://depositfiles.com/en/ -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Leaves a nasty scorch mark too. I use a chunk of brick... -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives! Message-ID: 31941.60957...@web180015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been told that torches and concrete don't play well together - the concrete can explode if heated too fast - but a mini-butane is probably safe... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
Not so. I can show you h3 headlights with hi-low. The /5 BMWs all came out with H3 headlights. The /6 series came out with the h4. Come here and I will show you the original H-3 hi-low headlight from my BMW. I had Lucas H3s in my 200D for a short while. When the H4s came out, I bought the Bosch H-4s and still have them. H3 is only an older technology. H3s? are you certain? H3 lamps are single-filament bulbs; what should be in there should be dual-filament lamps (like H4s) so you have High and Low beam from the same lamps. obviously some PO was screwing with your cars lamps; have you stood in front of them with the lights on in both High and Low to see what's actually lighting up? i've seen some examples where people have played games with putting Highs only in where the Fogs go, etc, but odds are better some DSPO took H3 lamps and tried to use them with H4 bulbs (which won't work well, as you're finding out)... no telling exactly how they'd do this since H3s have a single Pos wire lead and ground through the base as opposed to a 3-prong plug like H4s have, but it'll probably be pretty clear what's going on as soon as you pull the lamp housing out to see what's behind it. hopefully they didn't bugger up the wiring trying to use the wrong lamps! in any case, i'd recommend Cibié H4 lamps over anything else i've tried; we've got some in the family that are still performing well after a decade or more in use. Hella lamps always seemed like the difference between High and Low was too great and the lenses seemed like they cracked very quickly in all the cars our family has used them in (giving us the 'opportunity' to try something else). Sunpowers were terribly poor at directing light and harsh on glare for oncoming traffic. the rectangular IPFs i've tried also had this problem, as well as some others. if you're getting light out of the main lamps on both High and Low settings and it really is an H3 housing, chances are you have an H4 bulb in an H3 housing and need to get a proper H4 lamp housing to use with your H4 bulbs. get good ones, and you'll probably never need to replace them, and wonder why you've been living with such poor lighting for so long. ;-) cheers! e On 13/Dec/10 09:07, R A Bennell wrote: Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q 78 240D W123
l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: after I sent this I began to think I am probably wrong about it having a bulb - it's probably a sealed beam - right? It's stock as far as I know Yup - if it is USA stock. I think it was after 1990 before US DOT allowed anything but sealed beam. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q 78 240D W123
Fmiser wrote: l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: after I sent this I began to think I am probably wrong about it having a bulb - it's probably a sealed beam - right? It's stock as far as I know Yup - if it is USA stock. I think it was after 1990 before US DOT allowed anything but sealed beam. My first memory is the headlamps on 1985 1/2 Ford Escorts, but there might have been an LTD or Thunderbird or something with fixed headlamps before then. Or I might be wrong in remembering Ford as the innovator that got the law changed. MBZ had replaceable bulbs for 1987 model year. My '87 190D has them, my '86 190E does not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
A brick can blow too, unless it is thoroughly baked dry (Firebrick) I use a steel plate. The hood of a Porshe works well as a cutting table too. You want something metallic, not something that will hold water molecules. Leaves a nasty scorch mark too. I use a chunk of brick... -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives! Message-ID: 31941.60957...@web180015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been told that torches and concrete don't play well together - the concrete can explode if heated too fast - but a mini-butane is probably safe... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
The.. hoo.. Do I even want to know? Walt On Dec 13, 2010 5:33 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A brick can blow too, unless it is thoroughly baked dry (Firebrick) I use a steel plate. The hood of a Porshe works well as a cutting table too. You want something metallic, not something that will hold water molecules. Leaves a nasty scorch mark too. I use a chunk of brick... -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives! Message-ID: 31941.60957...@web180015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been told that torches and concrete don't play well together - the concrete can explode if heated too fast - but a mini-butane is probably safe... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q 78 240D W123
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: My first memory is the headlamps on 1985 1/2 Ford Escorts, but there might have been an LTD or Thunderbird or something with fixed headlamps before then. Or I might be wrong in remembering Ford as the innovator that got the law changed. The escorts definately had them in the 80's. They were atrocious too... I drove an Escort as a driver for Domino's Pizza back then (company car) and often felt I would have done better holding a flashlight out the window. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission manual
Dieselhead wrote: sure, or I can set up an ftp site for you to put them in. I think that sounds like the most useful thing. Gimme a log-in / password offlist that you can delete or change once the file is there? While dropbox sounds easy, I think I would rather upload it to your private area. And, I intend to only upload one file: W123 716 Manual transmission Manual.pdf which is 100mb - is that 100 Mercedes Benz? The transmission file is the only one I wanted. While that is probably considered *hot* - at least it is not the entire service manual... which might be a bit more detectable by Napolitano geek-squad. Maybe we should rename this baby to something odd like MBT.pdf. Then once on your drive, rename it to something you recognize? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
Dieselhead wrote: You close enough to check it out? Looks good so I wonder how bad the left side is bashed and how bad the suspension/engine/trans is I asked a couple days ago. --R said it is 45 minutes away, and suggested some W124 that he put up earlier last week that is in his neighborhood - I couldn't find the thread. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlights Q
Mr/Mrs/Ms Dieselhead, i have seen several applications of H3s where they were used in separate High and Low lamps (my 1150 Oilhead is one example), but if you can just how me a link to any spec anywhere that states that H3 bulbs have more than one filament, i'll believe you. so far, i've never seen any reference to any H3 bulb that had more than one filament, especially since they have a completely different base than H4s and only single-wire leads instead of connectors. (i checked again briefly just for giggles, but didn't find anything like a dual-filament H3 listed anywhere, including Osram/Sylvania and Hellas websites.) doesn't mean it didn't happen, but i've yet to see it and would appreciate it if you can help show me an example. cheers! e On 13/Dec/10 13:58, Dieselhead wrote: Not so. I can show you h3 headlights with hi-low. The /5 BMWs all came out with H3 headlights. The /6 series came out with the h4. Come here and I will show you the original H-3 hi-low headlight from my BMW. I had Lucas H3s in my 200D for a short while. When the H4s came out, I bought the Bosch H-4s and still have them. H3 is only an older technology. H3s? are you certain? H3 lamps are single-filament bulbs; what should be in there should be dual-filament lamps (like H4s) so you have High and Low beam from the same lamps. obviously some PO was screwing with your cars lamps; have you stood in front of them with the lights on in both High and Low to see what's actually lighting up? i've seen some examples where people have played games with putting Highs only in where the Fogs go, etc, but odds are better some DSPO took H3 lamps and tried to use them with H4 bulbs (which won't work well, as you're finding out)... no telling exactly how they'd do this since H3s have a single Pos wire lead and ground through the base as opposed to a 3-prong plug like H4s have, but it'll probably be pretty clear what's going on as soon as you pull the lamp housing out to see what's behind it. hopefully they didn't bugger up the wiring trying to use the wrong lamps! in any case, i'd recommend Cibié H4 lamps over anything else i've tried; we've got some in the family that are still performing well after a decade or more in use. Hella lamps always seemed like the difference between High and Low was too great and the lenses seemed like they cracked very quickly in all the cars our family has used them in (giving us the 'opportunity' to try something else). Sunpowers were terribly poor at directing light and harsh on glare for oncoming traffic. the rectangular IPFs i've tried also had this problem, as well as some others. if you're getting light out of the main lamps on both High and Low settings and it really is an H3 housing, chances are you have an H4 bulb in an H3 housing and need to get a proper H4 lamp housing to use with your H4 bulbs. get good ones, and you'll probably never need to replace them, and wonder why you've been living with such poor lighting for so long. ;-) cheers! e On 13/Dec/10 09:07, R A Bennell wrote: Some may recall my questions about upgrading headlights on my 75 300D. Basic round 7 headlights. Currently has rather flat lenses with a Volvo name cast in and says H3. Anyone know what the difference is between H3 and H4? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
They are on the passenger fender in the photos. On 12/13/2010 11:34 AM, Rolf wrote: That is a salvage. Where is the shark gills? -Rolf On 12/11/2010 09:45 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D Black - $2995 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 426/3305 - Release Date: 12/09/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Dieselhead wrote: A brick can blow too, unless it is thoroughly baked dry (Firebrick) I use a steel plate. The hood of a Porshe works well as a cutting table too. You want something metallic, not something that will hold water molecules. Just dangle the ring from a short piece of steel wire. Makes it easy to drop in the cup of water too. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
More often than not those do not have headlight wipers, it was an add on option. On 12/13/2010 11:44 AM, Rolf wrote: I also noticed its missing the headlight wipers... You can always include HTML in a CL post. -Rolf -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] BAT '85 W123TD
Doesn't someone need this? Where is it located? http://bringatrailer.com/2010/12/12/bat-exclusive-clean-1985-mercedes-benz-300td/ 146 pictures to boot. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT '85 W123TD
Mountain Man wrote: Doesn't someone need this? Donna S needs this. Where is it located? Austin? http://bringatrailer.com/2010/12/12/bat-exclusive-clean-1985-mercedes-benz-300td/ Oh, Andrew... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H3/H4
H-3s are a single filament small bulb with a short wire tail with a male connector, used in fog and driving lights. They come in various wattages and colors. H-4s are round capsule twin filament headlight bulbs, also in various wattages and even in blue for the ricer set. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 61, Issue 72
...I think it was after 1990 before US DOT allowed anything but sealed beam... Indeed. My 1995 C280 came with H-4s and therefor the Euro beam pattern. Whn I installed 160/100s with relays, the lighting was quite satisfactory. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
Hi Max, Last Summer you were prepping for a rear suspension repair upgrade. At the time several people (incl. me) requested a list parts needed. Were you ever able to put that list onto paper? Would love to see it - still no specific problems but it's one of those problems that sneak up on you without noticing. I assume the '95 is all back together by now? Driving nicely I hope? Sorry if you have gone over this - there are so many MBZ posts I often get behind in reading all of them. Hope I don't miss something important... Did you notice a big improvement? TIA - Larry T 91 300D -Original Message- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? I'll send it directly (anyone else need it?) but I'm not sure it will all apply to you, as the hardware changed at some point, increasing the bolt size from M10 to M12 I believe. Maybe someone here is smart enough to know if the larger bolts will be fine as long as ALL the camber/torque/strut/etc arms are replaced along with bushings and sleeves? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Hey Max - When you get that list, please share it, OK?? My '91 300D might need a similar rebuild one of these days Thx LarryT 91 300D In God We Trust -- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT? Dieselvolk, I'm putting together a Rusty-gram to get the rubber and hardware bits so that I can rebuild the rear suspension on my '95 E300. I'm planning to go whole hog: differential to sub frame mounts, sub frame to body mounts, and all the various bushings and torque arms and struts that hold the wheel carrier in position. I'm expecting at least a boat ride at this year's Rusty-Q, as I've probably already made two or three of his boat payments. Someone, I believe it was Dieselhead, recently shared their observations, and I remember that removing the mounts that hold sub frame to body was loads of fun and games. What tools/hardware should I gather in advance to help this procedure along? Can I rent the $$$ tools somewhere? Any other tidbits of wisdom will be appreciated. Still smoking, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 328k miles '95 E300 275k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro lighting/when?
..My first memory is the headlamps on 1985 1/2 Ford Escorts, but there might have been an LTD or Thunderbird or something with fixed headlamps before then. Or I might be wrong in remembering Ford as the innovator that got the law changed... Back in the sixties the furrin car accessory stores in Washington started importing Euro lights and they sold very well. Lucas, Bosch, Hella, Marchal etc. And everybody with sealed beams in a post-66 Porsche wanted the twin H-1 units. The state cops began pulling over a few people and harassing them about their lights. Finally, the local car clubs got together, wrote a new State regulation allowing their lights and hired an attorney to present it to the State Commission On Equipment for approval. The entire Commission consisted of a State Patrol Captain sitting behind an old green metal desk in Olympia. In due course, he approved the change in wording and the Legislature OKd it. The Feds didn't like that a State had the temerity to overrule them but when the lights were made legal in a driver's home state, they couldn't be ticketed elsewhere. Something similar happened in re: XKE covered headlights in California but I can't recall when, being no student of Jags. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unhappy Brake Noises
Jim uses an old grease gun and water to avoid the explosion. Ayup. Don't use air, it's got much less pressure than any hydraulic method, and is quite unsafe. Either use the brake system of the car, or the water/grease-gun trick. (The grease gun pipe threads right into the caliper.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another garage? Is the flap still over they keyhole? If so, there's also a thin plastic drip shield that's supposed to be over the lock assembly on the inside of the door, so that it doesn't get rained on by the window. That doesn't last long, and is one of the first things lost when the door is worked on. (The other being the vapor barrier.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 06:35:37 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: - fog lights aimed too low Are they, really? If they're lighting up any road such that you could drive faster than about 20MPH with them alone, then they're mis-aimed IMHO. The top edges of the beams hit the road about 20 feet in front of the car. 20 mph is 29.33 ft/s, so the four-second-rule says the top edges of the beam should hit the road about 117 feet in front of the car. And don't even get me started on all those wretched Subies and Dodges that don't even have shrouds in their 'fog' lamps, which are much more like blinding high beams mounted down low than anything suitable for use in extremely foggy conditions. I share your irritation. The cars that have their sharp-cutoff low beams aimed exactly horizontal should be ticketed, too. On an MB, if you find yourself needing to open your driver's door in order to see the stripe, in order to stay on the road as you creep along, you can turn on the fog lamps instead (and perhaps turn off the lows) and creep along in more safety and comfort. I've driven in those conditions in a blizzard. The car I was driving, though, didn't have fog lights. The electronic speedometers do tick. There's a stepper motor that drives the odometer chain. Our later 107's and the 126's do this. The high-miles 107 ticks louder than the others. That's a relief; thank you for that bit of information. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
