Re: [MBZ] griots correction
Gotta love tail drops in the transmit queue! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 15, 2010, at 20:01, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Or it makes it there too quickly and excess gets dropped, which is sometimes my problem. Walt On Dec 15, 2010 8:00 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: www.griots.com.. Data stored in brain does not always make to typing fingers. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] griots correction
Yep, buffer overrun due to excess sensory input also is bad, especially when the watchdog timer is set to 15 minutes when it happens... hellooo brainwarp! Walt On Dec 16, 2010 6:14 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard starting 300TD
I'd think it indicates that they are a problem; disconnect the GP relay on the good one to find out. BTW, GP relays can completely and utterly fail yet still be able to light the light; it seems to happen to the ones that have small slotted head screws holding the case together; one at each corner of the side with all the electrical connections. The two halves of the case have a gasket/o-ring cross-section type of seal between them which can shrink (linearly, not diametrically) and split, leaving a gap through which water can infiltrate. When this happens on the side that mounts to the car, water can get close enough to be drawn in by capillary action. The water gets in and shorts out the electronics; mine was more than half full. (If your GP relay is glued/welded/non-openable, this failure cannot occur) This mode of failure seems particular to instances where the GP relay is mounted vertically beneath the hood/fender joint (I had it happen in an '85 300D, but not in an '84 300SD)... I suspect that water infiltration could also be an issue with relays that were missing the protective cap that covers all the electrical connections; the plastic pin in the place of the sixth GP pin has a vent hole in the very top... Then there are the frakko brand electrolytic crapacitors, which seem to start failing after 10 years or so; this is also what takes out many CC amps... When I had two OM 617's I kept a spare GP relay (and a set of plugs) on the shelf. Using and removing the injection lines, you can replace all of them, including the back one, in about half of an hour... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 15, 2010, at 16:56, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Another question. The good 300TD starts without glowing when the engine is warm. The bad 85 300TD always needs to be glowed before starting, regardless of engine temperature. It starts quicker when it's warm, but I still need to glow it or it cranks a lot. Does this observation mean the glow plugs aren't the problem? On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yeah that sounds right. I forget these things, maybe I should use a notebook or something when doing these jobs. But those gearwrenches are great tools. --R On 12/14/2010 10:35 AM, John Reames wrote: An 8mm gearwrench for the electrical connections, and a 10mm for the plugs proper. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 14, 2010, at 10:28, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Might want to check your glow plugs, relay, and CHECK YOUR FUSE. The 84 SD was getting a bit balky, even in warm weather, I replaced a couple of glow plugs and the relay (which did not appear to be relaying very well for reasons unclear), and it fires right up (though I have not yet tried it today after last night way down in the 20s). I CHANGED THE FUSE too, first thing, but it was OK so that was not the issue. Sort of minimal stuff that you should probably check as a matter of course, but makes quite the difference. Note: changing the glow plugs really benefits from a 10mm (I think) gearwrench as that is about the only thing I could fit in there easily to loosen/tighten everything. The relay is easy to change, make sure you disconnect the battery first. --R On 12/14/2010 10:14 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: This is a new problem for me. The 1985 300TD recently had a valve adjustment so I wasn't too worried about it starting in the cold. Well, I should have been! Yesterday, with a temp of around 23 F., after sitting in the street for a mere 6 hours the 300TD barely started up without running down the (relatively new) battery. I had to key the glow cycle three times for an additional 10-20 seconds each time before it fired up. So how do I diagnose whether this is bad glow plugs or low compression? Or could it be something else? The car never fires up quickly in the best of circumstances, compared to the '83 turbo diesel wagon, although it has adequate power and acceleration. Fuel is clean, too (I recently changed the tank strainer and other filters). As always, TIA. Andrew 1983 300TD starts like a 300TE 1985 300TD needs to be wound up ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] OT: Scale of the Universe
Why do tourists tilt at windmills? Besides, science is good for the economy; scientists are employed, and therefore pay taxes and buy stuff. (It also keeps them off the streets!) Not to mention that all this wondering has led mankind to (pair to) stepping foot on other celestial bodies; this has required technological developments which have entered into our daily lives...) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 15, 2010, at 21:58, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Somehow this baloney seems useless and nonsense. It does not assist me exchange my slave cylinder. It does not help me make my fried egg in the morning. Nobody will never get there and all of this 'science' is pure speculation based on 'tested' scientific 'methods' that have a semblance of rationality, but are pure speculation and mathematical slight of hand. We cannot even find peace half way around the block or half way around the world - why is this stuff even put up on the web? I guess it is more 'science' pornography. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard starting 300TD
Check the atmospheric vent line to the fuel tank; if it has completely plugged (it can plug with algae inside the tank) then the tank can hold enough vacuum to cause air to be sucked into the lines at the engine (even new ones with new seals, etc), or even to collapse the tank. You can try to remove the fuel fill cap when you shut down; you may hear air being sucked in, or even have to pull the cap pretty hard to get it off the fill tube. Regardless, if removing and reinstalling the cap at shutdown remedies the hot starting issue, suspect a plugged atmospheric vent line. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 15, 2010, at 19:21, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Actually i did have a hard starting problem when hot and I still have the problem. Now that it is cold again (michigan) the problem has become less of an issue. I have replaced all hoses and lines as well as installing a new lift pump from Rusty and the check valve on the engine side of the injection pump. Mike On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Didn't someone (Micheal Esh perhaps) have a starting problem and just recently figured out the cause of his HOT start problem? Rick Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:02:44 -0600 From: b...@mts.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard starting 300TD Didn't someone suggest air leakage into the fuel lines? That sounds like it may not be getting fuel - assuming it has reasonable compression etc. Randy who is no expert on diesels On 15/12/2010 3:56 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Another question. The good 300TD starts without glowing when the engine is warm. The bad 85 300TD always needs to be glowed before starting, regardless of engine temperature. It starts quicker when it's warm, but I still need to glow it or it cranks a lot. Does this observation mean the glow plugs aren't the problem? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] griots correction
Watchdog timer? What happens when it expires and forces a reboot? Or do are you referring to the connection timeout instead? (connection resets seem to be very costly, especially when multiple context switches are involved) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:23, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, buffer overrun due to excess sensory input also is bad, especially when the watchdog timer is set to 15 minutes when it happens... hellooo brainwarp! Walt On Dec 16, 2010 6:14 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard starting 300TD
I've had good luck with the local Bosch diesel service shop - look in your yellow pages or google them. Also, if you've got a good independent MB shop, they may offer that service as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard starting 300TD Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: After that, pull the injectors and have the compression checked and have the injectors tested while they're out (don't forget to use new heat shields when you put the injectors back in). Does anyone know of a good injector service shop (can test, balance, and if necessary rebuild injectors using quality components). Or is this something that any diesel service shop normally does fairly well? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
PGA = Potomac German Auto (now part of the LKQ Empire but still has lots of MB stuff at fair prices and they ship. http://www.pgauto.com/ -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:27 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted David Bruckmann wrote: I'm not sure what rough shape means. I opened it up, with the plan to replace the shaft seal. The shaft is stuck in the cover and the cover bushing-to-shaft is _way_ to loose. And the shaft has worn grooves, and scoring from the body bushing. The pump from the parts car is actually in better shape - except the seal grooves are deeper. Both, I suspect, ran for a considerably amount of time without sufficient clean oil in the system. :( I haven't bought used parts since Atlanta Stutgard closed shop... Is there a respectable used parts supplier? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beam patterns from different times and and countries.
Did you forget to paste in the URL? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beam patterns from different times and and countries. This website has a excellent explanation of the different bulbs - their wattage, useage, etc along with images of many different lens'.Very informative. This guy makes a great relay kit for Porsche (and others) headlights so they can take more power safely. LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: relng...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beam patterns from different times and and countries. ..Isn't the lamp lens customized for lighting patterns in different countries? Maybe 4 was the US pattern?.. It is for right or left hand traffic. Beyond that, the beam patterns with H-4s have been the same for decades. For the one example I know about, the stock headlights in my '95 W202 C280 used H-4 (100/160W) bulbs producing the Euro beam pattern with the low beam sharp cutoff which is the same beam pattern my 2008 C300's Bi-Xenon low beams have. And the old Cibie Z-Beams in my Porsche with JC Whitney 100/160W H-4s (four relays) have the exact same pattern. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] griots correction
Till the WDT forces a reboot, you kinda just stand there. When it triggers, you get a what happened? moment, with that slightly fuzzy feeling that's kind of like you had a shot ot two, and ten seconds later you've forgot it even happened. Walt, who's wet cold, but made On Dec 16, 2010 7:00 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Watchdog timer? What happens when it expires and forces a reboot? Or do are you referring to the connection timeout instead? (connection resets seem to be very costly, especially when multiple context switches are involved) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:23, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, buffer overrun due to excess sensory input also is bad, especially when the watchdog timer is set to 15 minutes when it happens... hellooo brainwarp! Walt On Dec 16, 2010 6:14 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
What do you lube it with? On 12/16/2010 6:41 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3317 - Release Date: 12/15/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Scale of the Universe
So, does that somebody WILL get there?; Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Scale of the Universe Somehow this baloney seems useless and nonsense. It does not assist me exchange my slave cylinder. It does not help me make my fried egg in the morning. Nobody will never get there and all of this 'science' is pure speculation based on 'tested' scientific 'methods' that have a semblance of rationality, but are pure speculation and mathematical slight of hand. We cannot even find peace half way around the block or half way around the world - why is this stuff even put up on the web? I guess it is more 'science' pornography. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
I'm not sure of the official lube; I used some plain old wheel bearing grease on my '95, and it still is too slow. I'm not sure if that is the grease or a problem with the motor. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 What do you lube it with? On 12/16/2010 6:41 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3317 - Release Date: 12/15/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
Andrew does NOT have a spare SLS pump, but IS seeking a 1985 300TD engine. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: PGA = Potomac German Auto (now part of the LKQ Empire but still has lots of MB stuff at fair prices and they ship. http://www.pgauto.com/ -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:27 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted David Bruckmann wrote: I'm not sure what rough shape means. I opened it up, with the plan to replace the shaft seal. The shaft is stuck in the cover and the cover bushing-to-shaft is _way_ to loose. And the shaft has worn grooves, and scoring from the body bushing. The pump from the parts car is actually in better shape - except the seal grooves are deeper. Both, I suspect, ran for a considerably amount of time without sufficient clean oil in the system. :( I haven't bought used parts since Atlanta Stutgard closed shop... Is there a respectable used parts supplier? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
Wheel bearing grease is pretty thick. What about synthetic motor oil or ATF? On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:44 -0500, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm not sure of the official lube; I used some plain old wheel bearing grease on my '95, and it still is too slow. I'm not sure if that is the grease or a problem with the motor. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 What do you lube it with? On 12/16/2010 6:41 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3317 - Release Date: 12/15/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!
I have no experience with these on a Mercedes diesel (living in the mild PNW now), but when I was living in upstate NY I installed a hose heater on my Volvo 122S. I would power it up when I got up in the morning, leaving it on for about an hour. The car would start right up and the heater and defroster would blow warm as soon as the engine started up. Installation was easy. As long as the heater was installed vertically convection would carry the heated water throughout the engine in short order. I can't imagine anything better or easier than this for an add-on. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Chris N John Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:27 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!! Hi, everyone We too are having issues with our car starting this winter (1980 300 SD). Hubbie put about 4 different hose heaters on it last winter. The last one finally worked once or twice. (We won't mention the local car parts store) We tried it again in November and it seemed to be doing fine and then the morning we had appointments to keep 80 miles away and temp was -20, guess what? Yep-- it didn't work at all. We made it to appointments, but used up our easy travel margin of time for sure!! So, my question is: the block heaters sound more dependable and efficient but hubbie is concerned about problems installing in the old car. He thinks it will be hard to seal up after removing the old plug, which seems to be another big concern, too. Any feedback from you experts? Should we keep trying the hose heaters, and is there one that really works long term?? Thanks for advice! Wishing you all a Wonderful Christmas Season and a Great New Year to come, Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 (KALEB -- Need your help)
Hello Kaleb, Pls see my reply to Allan. re: the lubricant - the can said Lubricant. I know, I should be more picky. But I was trying to help the WW in preparation of a small snow storm moving through today and that was all I could find. Thx Kaleb - Hopefully you have one for a low price --- LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 What do you lube it with? On 12/16/2010 6:41 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3317 - Release Date: 12/15/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard starting 300TD
Thanks - I will definitely try this at home! On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:45 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Check the atmospheric vent line to the fuel tank; if it has completely plugged (it can plug with algae inside the tank) then the tank can hold enough vacuum to cause air to be sucked into the lines at the engine (even new ones with new seals, etc), or even to collapse the tank. You can try to remove the fuel fill cap when you shut down; you may hear air being sucked in, or even have to pull the cap pretty hard to get it off the fill tube. Regardless, if removing and reinstalling the cap at shutdown remedies the hot starting issue, suspect a plugged atmospheric vent line. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 15, 2010, at 19:21, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Actually i did have a hard starting problem when hot and I still have the problem. Now that it is cold again (michigan) the problem has become less of an issue. I have replaced all hoses and lines as well as installing a new lift pump from Rusty and the check valve on the engine side of the injection pump. Mike On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Didn't someone (Micheal Esh perhaps) have a starting problem and just recently figured out the cause of his HOT start problem? Rick Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:02:44 -0600 From: b...@mts.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard starting 300TD Didn't someone suggest air leakage into the fuel lines? That sounds like it may not be getting fuel - assuming it has reasonable compression etc. Randy who is no expert on diesels On 15/12/2010 3:56 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Another question. The good 300TD starts without glowing when the engine is warm. The bad 85 300TD always needs to be glowed before starting, regardless of engine temperature. It starts quicker when it's warm, but I still need to glow it or it cranks a lot. Does this observation mean the glow plugs aren't the problem? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
Hi Max, The movement is slow and sounds like it's on a dry surface - even though I wet it down.I removed the cover you mentioned and lubed the shaft under the cover - helped a little. See my reply to Allan where I discuss Rusty's phone call. Sounds like we both have a new transmission in out future. I'm starting a search for a used one at Rusty's suggestion... New one's are over $500. Take care -- LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Max Dillon Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:41 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beam patterns from different times and and countries.
Hi Max -- You asked forget to paste in the URL Probably, I'm famous for that ;-) Try this: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html Sorry 'bout that! ;-) Take care -- LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Max Dillon Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:42 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beam patterns from different times and and countries. Did you forget to paste in the URL? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beam patterns from different times and and countries. This website has a excellent explanation of the different bulbs - their wattage, useage, etc along with images of many different lens'.Very informative. This guy makes a great relay kit for Porsche (and others) headlights so they can take more power safely. LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: relng...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beam patterns from different times and and countries. ..Isn't the lamp lens customized for lighting patterns in different countries? Maybe 4 was the US pattern?.. It is for right or left hand traffic. Beyond that, the beam patterns with H-4s have been the same for decades. For the one example I know about, the stock headlights in my '95 W202 C280 used H-4 (100/160W) bulbs producing the Euro beam pattern with the low beam sharp cutoff which is the same beam pattern my 2008 C300's Bi-Xenon low beams have. And the old Cibie Z-Beams in my Porsche with JC Whitney 100/160W H-4s (four relays) have the exact same pattern. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
PGA may be our friend - see my earlier post with their URL. On my foray to the pick-n-pull a few weeks ago, I noticed that all the MB WW's had been violently stripped of their motors. Very sad - all the transmission arms bent, all the plastic/rubber covers ripped and broken off. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Max, The movement is slow and sounds like it's on a dry surface - even though I wet it down.I removed the cover you mentioned and lubed the shaft under the cover - helped a little. See my reply to Allan where I discuss Rusty's phone call. Sounds like we both have a new transmission in out future. I'm starting a search for a used one at Rusty's suggestion... New one's are over $500. Take care -- LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Max Dillon Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:41 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
Allen, Yes, grease undoubtably too thick. I think that some type of silicon lubricant has been recommended. ATF would probably work fine too, just keep it away from the glass and wiper. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Wheel bearing grease is pretty thick. What about synthetic motor oil or ATF? On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:44 -0500, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm not sure of the official lube; I used some plain old wheel bearing grease on my '95, and it still is too slow. I'm not sure if that is the grease or a problem with the motor. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 What do you lube it with? On 12/16/2010 6:41 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Did you lubricate because the movement is too slow? On my '95, the plastic cover over the reticulating mechanism is easy to pop-off - there are two catches at the bottom, you simply pull a little and it should pop off. You'll have access to clean and lube everything but the shaft which comes out of the motor. On my '87, the cover is screwed down and the entire WW assembly must be removed in order to properly clean/lubricate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of l02tur...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 Hi Gang, My wife told me the WW was acting funny (she always talks in highly technical terms) so I checked it out tonight – because we’re having a snow storm tomorrow. Great timing, huh? Anyway, it sounds like the wiper blade is dry and dragging across the glass. It wasn’t as I sprayed it with cleaner fluid. I lubricated the mechanism as much as I could without disassembling anything. It’s a bit better. But I worry. Anyone BTDT? TIA - LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3317 - Release Date: 12/15/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Over the last couple of nights I've been pecking away at the left side links/bushings on my 300TD. I started by pulling the wheel, brake caliper, and rotor, and then taking loose the parking brake shoes and the brake backing plate/dust shield. On my '95, I didn't need to loosen the brake backing plate, but on this '87 car it is required and makes the whole job much easier. The spring link came off next, using a trolley jack to lower it to let the spring relax so it could be safely removed. I used the Sir Tools M0085 bushing press (with stripped threads on the bolt) in combination with the Harbor Freight ball joint tool to press out the outer spring link bushing which is in the bottom of the wheel carrier. On this side of the car, the wheel carrier casting was different which made placing the cups of the M0085 much easier so that it sat perfectly flush on the edge of the bushing and it came out quite nicely. Cleaned up the hole with wire brush, lubricated with anti-seize paste, and pulled the new bushing in with the M0085 (the end threads are still good enough to do this part of the job). Next I replaced the thrust link and the tie-rod link; again I used the MB special tool for removing tied rod ends, which easily popped off the tie rod from the wheel carrier. Pulling link and camber link were next, but couldn't complete the installation of these without new hardware, coming in the next box of goodies from Rusty. Good news for OK Don: Both Toolsource and Sir Tools have offered to replace the broken M0085 under warranty, so you will be getting either a new tool or a new bolt. Toolsource says they've already shipped a replacement tool, but I've got to return the broken tool to ensure it's covered by the warranty. Sir Tools says that they won't have a replacement bolt until January, but we probably won't have to wait for that. If a certain box is delivered this afternoon, I may be able to entertain you all with a happy ending later tonight! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
You need to take some pics and post all this on a web site or blog. I guess it is too late, but it would be nice if everyone did that. Doesn't take long and is very helpful to see the actual job with comments. --R On 12/16/2010 5:06 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Over the last couple of nights I've been pecking away at the left side links/bushings on my 300TD. I started by pulling the wheel, brake caliper, and rotor, and then taking loose the parking brake shoes and the brake backing plate/dust shield. On my '95, I didn't need to loosen the brake backing plate, but on this '87 car it is required and makes the whole job much easier. The spring link came off next, using a trolley jack to lower it to let the spring relax so it could be safely removed. I used the Sir Tools M0085 bushing press (with stripped threads on the bolt) in combination with the Harbor Freight ball joint tool to press out the outer spring link bushing which is in the bottom of the wheel carrier. On this side of the car, the wheel carrier casting was different which made placing the cups of the M0085 much easier so that it sat perfectly flush on the edge of the bushing and it came out quite nicely. Cleaned up the hole with wire brush, lubricated with anti-seize paste, and pulled the new bushing in with the M0085 (the end threads are still good enough to do this part of the job). Next I replaced the thrust link and the tie-rod link; again I used the MB special tool for removing tied rod ends, which easily popped off the tie rod from the wheel carrier. Pulling link and camber link were next, but couldn't complete the installation of these without new hardware, coming in the next box of goodies from Rusty. Good news for OK Don: Both Toolsource and Sir Tools have offered to replace the broken M0085 under warranty, so you will be getting either a new tool or a new bolt. Toolsource says they've already shipped a replacement tool, but I've got to return the broken tool to ensure it's covered by the warranty. Sir Tools says that they won't have a replacement bolt until January, but we probably won't have to wait for that. If a certain box is delivered this afternoon, I may be able to entertain you all with a happy ending later tonight! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
I was thinking more like ATF, wheel bearing grease would be way too think. On 12/16/2010 10:48 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Wheel bearing grease is pretty thick. What about synthetic motor oil or ATF? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
Yeah, really smart stuff. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124 I was thinking more like ATF, wheel bearing grease would be way too think. On 12/16/2010 10:48 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Wheel bearing grease is pretty thick. What about synthetic motor oil or ATF? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Yes, I thought about that, but I don't have a place to share the pictures. Lousy excuse - I'm sure someone on this list could have helped me out, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I do plan to write up a comprehensive step-by-step with lessons learned, tools, part numbers, etc, but don't anyone hold their breath. Maybe that will be a good project for the Christmas break. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga You need to take some pics and post all this on a web site or blog. I guess it is too late, but it would be nice if everyone did that. Doesn't take long and is very helpful to see the actual job with comments. --R On 12/16/2010 5:06 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Over the last couple of nights I've been pecking away at the left side links/bushings on my 300TD. I started by pulling the wheel, brake caliper, and rotor, and then taking loose the parking brake shoes and the brake backing plate/dust shield. On my '95, I didn't need to loosen the brake backing plate, but on this '87 car it is required and makes the whole job much easier. The spring link came off next, using a trolley jack to lower it to let the spring relax so it could be safely removed. I used the Sir Tools M0085 bushing press (with stripped threads on the bolt) in combination with the Harbor Freight ball joint tool to press out the outer spring link bushing which is in the bottom of the wheel carrier. On this side of the car, the wheel carrier casting was different which made placing the cups of the M0085 much easier so that it sat perfectly flush on the edge of the bushing and it came out quite nicely. Cleaned up the hole with wire brush, lubricated with anti-seize paste, and pulled the new bushing in with the M0085 (the end threads are still good enough to do this part of the job). Next I replaced the thrust link and the tie-rod link; again I used the MB special tool for removing tied rod ends, which easily popped off the tie rod from the wheel carrier. Pulling link and camber link were next, but couldn't complete the installation of these without new hardware, coming in the next box of goodies from Rusty. Good news for OK Don: Both Toolsource and Sir Tools have offered to replace the broken M0085 under warranty, so you will be getting either a new tool or a new bolt. Toolsource says they've already shipped a replacement tool, but I've got to return the broken tool to ensure it's covered by the warranty. Sir Tools says that they won't have a replacement bolt until January, but we probably won't have to wait for that. If a certain box is delivered this afternoon, I may be able to entertain you all with a happy ending later tonight! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Maybe I should go down for a weekend and let you do mine and take you and your young ladies to dinner a coupla times. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga Yes, I thought about that, but I don't have a place to share the pictures. Lousy excuse - I'm sure someone on this list could have helped me out, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I do plan to write up a comprehensive step-by-step with lessons learned, tools, part numbers, etc, but don't anyone hold their breath. Maybe that will be a good project for the Christmas break. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga You need to take some pics and post all this on a web site or blog. I guess it is too late, but it would be nice if everyone did that. Doesn't take long and is very helpful to see the actual job with comments. --R On 12/16/2010 5:06 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Over the last couple of nights I've been pecking away at the left side links/bushings on my 300TD. I started by pulling the wheel, brake caliper, and rotor, and then taking loose the parking brake shoes and the brake backing plate/dust shield. On my '95, I didn't need to loosen the brake backing plate, but on this '87 car it is required and makes the whole job much easier. The spring link came off next, using a trolley jack to lower it to let the spring relax so it could be safely removed. I used the Sir Tools M0085 bushing press (with stripped threads on the bolt) in combination with the Harbor Freight ball joint tool to press out the outer spring link bushing which is in the bottom of the wheel carrier. On this side of the car, the wheel carrier casting was different which made placing the cups of the M0085 much easier so that it sat perfectly flush on the edge of the bushing and it came out quite nicely. Cleaned up the hole with wire brush, lubricated with anti-seize paste, and pulled the new bushing in with the M0085 (the end threads are still good enough to do this part of the job). Next I replaced the thrust link and the tie-rod link; again I used the MB special tool for removing tied rod ends, which easily popped off the tie rod from the wheel carrier. Pulling link and camber link were next, but couldn't complete the installation of these without new hardware, coming in the next box of goodies from Rusty. Good news for OK Don: Both Toolsource and Sir Tools have offered to replace the broken M0085 under warranty, so you will be getting either a new tool or a new bolt. Toolsource says they've already shipped a replacement tool, but I've got to return the broken tool to ensure it's covered by the warranty. Sir Tools says that they won't have a replacement bolt until January, but we probably won't have to wait for that. If a certain box is delivered this afternoon, I may be able to entertain you all with a happy ending later tonight! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Sure, I'll be free in February, my rate is only $55 per hour plus expenses. I think that if I'd only done the spring link bushings and the camber link on this car, all my troubles would have been solved. Replacing them all removes any doubt, and now I shouldn't have to touch them for another 150k miles or so. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga Maybe I should go down for a weekend and let you do mine and take you and your young ladies to dinner a coupla times. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga Yes, I thought about that, but I don't have a place to share the pictures. Lousy excuse - I'm sure someone on this list could have helped me out, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I do plan to write up a comprehensive step-by-step with lessons learned, tools, part numbers, etc, but don't anyone hold their breath. Maybe that will be a good project for the Christmas break. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga You need to take some pics and post all this on a web site or blog. I guess it is too late, but it would be nice if everyone did that. Doesn't take long and is very helpful to see the actual job with comments. --R On 12/16/2010 5:06 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Over the last couple of nights I've been pecking away at the left side links/bushings on my 300TD. I started by pulling the wheel, brake caliper, and rotor, and then taking loose the parking brake shoes and the brake backing plate/dust shield. On my '95, I didn't need to loosen the brake backing plate, but on this '87 car it is required and makes the whole job much easier. The spring link came off next, using a trolley jack to lower it to let the spring relax so it could be safely removed. I used the Sir Tools M0085 bushing press (with stripped threads on the bolt) in combination with the Harbor Freight ball joint tool to press out the outer spring link bushing which is in the bottom of the wheel carrier. On this side of the car, the wheel carrier casting was different which made placing the cups of the M0085 much easier so that it sat perfectly flush on the edge of the bushing and it came out quite nicely. Cleaned up the hole with wire brush, lubricated with anti-seize paste, and pulled the new bushing in with the M0085 (the end threads are still good enough to do this part of the job). Next I replaced the thrust link and the tie-rod link; again I used the MB special tool for removing tied rod ends, which easily popped off the tie rod from the wheel carrier. Pulling link and camber link were next, but couldn't complete the installation of these without new hardware, coming in the next box of goodies from Rusty. Good news for OK Don: Both Toolsource and Sir Tools have offered to replace the broken M0085 under warranty, so you will be getting either a new tool or a new bolt. Toolsource says they've already shipped a replacement tool, but I've got to return the broken tool to ensure it's covered by the warranty. Sir Tools says that they won't have a replacement bolt until January, but we probably won't have to wait for that. If a certain box is delivered this afternoon, I may be able to entertain you all with a happy ending later tonight! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search
Re: [MBZ] wiper innards
...What do you lube it with?.. Ru-Glyde. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not Snow Leopard is an improvement over OSX 10.5.6 which came installed in my refurbished MacBook? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
Probably is. Here is the list of enhancements http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/enhancements-refinements.html On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:23 -0500, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not Snow Leopard is an improvement over OSX 10.5.6 which came installed in my refurbished MacBook? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
Quite a few improvements so I'll load it. Windows finally irritated me enough that I got the Mac out and am starting to learn it. Sort of like learning a new language since it's so different than WindowsXP. Thanks, Gerry On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Probably is. Here is the list of enhancements http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/enhancements-refinements.html On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:23 -0500, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not Snow Leopard is an improvement over OSX 10.5.6 which came installed in my refurbished MacBook? Thanks, Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Good news indeed! Enough other projects have risen, that I won't be getting to the rear end again untill well into Jan. I might even wait for warm weather (I'm getting softer in my olf age). On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Good news for OK Don: Both Toolsource and Sir Tools have offered to replace the broken M0085 under warranty, so you will be getting either a new tool or a new bolt. Toolsource says they've already shipped a replacement tool, but I've got to return the broken tool to ensure it's covered by the warranty. Sir Tools says that they won't have a replacement bolt until January, but we probably won't have to wait for that. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield Wiper W124
Kaleb, et al. Herr Doktor marshall advocated M1 ATF on the sliding shaft. I have used it and it works to this day. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 12/16/2010 5:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I was thinking more like ATF, wheel bearing grease would be way too think. On 12/16/2010 10:48 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Wheel bearing grease is pretty thick. What about synthetic motor oil or ATF? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Google Blogspot lets you set up a blog, you can post pictures and text and whatever. --R On 12/16/2010 5:53 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Yes, I thought about that, but I don't have a place to share the pictures. Lousy excuse - I'm sure someone on this list could have helped me out, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I do plan to write up a comprehensive step-by-step with lessons learned, tools, part numbers, etc, but don't anyone hold their breath. Maybe that will be a good project for the Christmas break. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga You need to take some pics and post all this on a web site or blog. I guess it is too late, but it would be nice if everyone did that. Doesn't take long and is very helpful to see the actual job with comments. --R On 12/16/2010 5:06 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Over the last couple of nights I've been pecking away at the left side links/bushings on my 300TD. I started by pulling the wheel, brake caliper, and rotor, and then taking loose the parking brake shoes and the brake backing plate/dust shield. On my '95, I didn't need to loosen the brake backing plate, but on this '87 car it is required and makes the whole job much easier. The spring link came off next, using a trolley jack to lower it to let the spring relax so it could be safely removed. I used the Sir Tools M0085 bushing press (with stripped threads on the bolt) in combination with the Harbor Freight ball joint tool to press out the outer spring link bushing which is in the bottom of the wheel carrier. On this side of the car, the wheel carrier casting was different which made placing the cups of the M0085 much easier so that it sat perfectly flush on the edge of the bushing and it came out quite nicely. Cleaned up the hole with wire brush, lubricated with anti-seize paste, and pulled the new bushing in with the M0085 (the end threads are still good enough to do this part of the job). Next I replaced the thrust link and the tie-rod link; again I used the MB special tool for removing tied rod ends, which easily popped off the tie rod from the wheel carrier. Pulling link and camber link were next, but couldn't complete the installation of these without new hardware, coming in the next box of goodies from Rusty. Good news for OK Don: Both Toolsource and Sir Tools have offered to replace the broken M0085 under warranty, so you will be getting either a new tool or a new bolt. Toolsource says they've already shipped a replacement tool, but I've got to return the broken tool to ensure it's covered by the warranty. Sir Tools says that they won't have a replacement bolt until January, but we probably won't have to wait for that. If a certain box is delivered this afternoon, I may be able to entertain you all with a happy ending later tonight! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
send it to me and I will put it up On 12/16/2010 4:53 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Yes, I thought about that, but I don't have a place to share the pictures. Lousy excuse - I'm sure someone on this list could have helped me out, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I do plan to write up a comprehensive step-by-step with lessons learned, tools, part numbers, etc, but don't anyone hold their breath. Maybe that will be a good project for the Christmas break. -Max -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
my core 2 duo mini ran faster on snow leopard than leopard. it's been a while though for snow leopard so i wonder if something new will come down the pike soon enough On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:20 PM, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Quite a few improvements so I'll load it. Windows finally irritated me enough that I got the Mac out and am starting to learn it. Sort of like learning a new language since it's so different than WindowsXP. Thanks, Gerry On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Probably is. Here is the list of enhancements http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/enhancements-refinements.html On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:23 -0500, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not Snow Leopard is an improvement over OSX 10.5.6 which came installed in my refurbished MacBook? Thanks, Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
Leopard was a bit of a dog. I never upgraded my old G4 PowerBook from Tiger because I had heard from several sources that Leopard didn't perform well at all on the G[45] processors. Snow Leopard, of course, is Intel-only anyway. So I'm stuck with Tiger on the PowerBook. It's fine for that platform, and Apple is still providing updates for it (though I would guess that will end at some point). Allan On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:50 -0500, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: my core 2 duo mini ran faster on snow leopard than leopard. it's been a while though for snow leopard so i wonder if something new will come down the pike soon enough On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:20 PM, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Quite a few improvements so I'll load it. Windows finally irritated me enough that I got the Mac out and am starting to learn it. Sort of like learning a new language since it's so different than WindowsXP. Thanks, Gerry On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Probably is. Here is the list of enhancements http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/enhancements-refinements.html On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:23 -0500, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not Snow Leopard is an improvement over OSX 10.5.6 which came installed in my refurbished MacBook? Thanks, Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
Oh oh. Not Ru-Glyde, but Sil-Glyde. Had a tube of it for decades. Defintely superior to something that will run to the bottom. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
Leopard was faster on Intel, slower on PPC, from what I read. Daughter has Tiger on her G4, wife has Leopard on her Intel, and no one is hounding me about upgrading the OS. At release time I gathered that snow leopard was mostly a security and stability bump rather than a significant change to the user experience. 10.7 looks like it could be interesting, will we finally see a normal consumer laptop with a standard touchscreen? http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ Rumored summer '11, I saw somewhere. Personally I would wait (am waiting :) but neither of my Maccers is a power user. -Tim what comes after lion? On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Leopard was a bit of a dog. I never upgraded my old G4 PowerBook from Tiger because I had heard from several sources that Leopard didn't perform well at all on the G[45] processors. Snow Leopard, of course, is Intel-only anyway. So I'm stuck with Tiger on the PowerBook. It's fine for that platform, and Apple is still providing updates for it (though I would guess that will end at some point). Allan On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:50 -0500, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: my core 2 duo mini ran faster on snow leopard than leopard. it's been a while though for snow leopard so i wonder if something new will come down the pike soon enough On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:20 PM, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Quite a few improvements so I'll load it. Windows finally irritated me enough that I got the Mac out and am starting to learn it. Sort of like learning a new language since it's so different than WindowsXP. Thanks, Gerry On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Probably is. Here is the list of enhancements http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/enhancements-refinements.html On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:23 -0500, archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not Snow Leopard is an improvement over OSX 10.5.6 which came installed in my refurbished MacBook? Thanks, Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:41 -0500, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: 10.7 looks like it could be interesting, will we finally see a normal consumer laptop with a standard touchscreen? http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ Full-screen apps on a Mac is a radical change for Apple. They have never done that, and even the maximize button on a Mac application has never made the window full-screen (rather it just optimizes the window size). Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Snow Leopard vs OSX 10.5.6
Tim wrote: what comes after lion? Siamese tom cat -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
I'm not sure if it would work in this case, but permatex silicone dielectric grease works wonders as a lubricant as well. Walt On Dec 17, 2010 12:40 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Oh oh. Not Ru-Glyde, but Sil-Glyde. Had a tube of it for decades. Defintely superior to something that will run to the bottom. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
