Re: [MBZ] Ford diesels

[Fmiser]

> > Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Of course, I want a diesel.  I'd prefer a Cummins, but I'm
> > not fond of the Dodge body or transmission.

> Jim Cathey wrote:
> 
> The NV4500 you don't like?

Well, actually the NV4500 is fine.  But I thought Dodge didn't
get those until late '90s - like the same time as the 24v
engine.  Which means it's to new (read "expensive") for my
budget for beater farm truck duty.

I think I neglected to mention part of my motivation is my
2-door doesn't have enough passenger space, so 4-door is high on
the list of requirements.  And I don't think Dodge made those
long enough ago.

> > What about the normally aspirated?
> 
> Dad's (92?) is great.  Not a powerhouse, but just fine.
> He always said it was a bit 'off' upshifting, but I don't
> think he wrapped it out far enough.  The one time I drove
> it, without him along, I treated it like the 200D and wound
> it out before shifting.  Gears/rpm's mated perfectly when
> I did that.  Nice truck.

Sounds like it would fit my needs fine.  Now to find a 4-door,
4-wheel drive, 1-ton, single wheel under my price cap.  GM 6.2
is also on the list.

> > What's to watch out for?
> 
> Cavitation in the cooling system that holes the block.
> Ford's MUST have had their cooling system maintained
> properly, or the engine could be trash, or nearly so.
> The insidious invisible killer.

Hmmm, that's going to be hard to spot on a driveway inspection,
isn't it?   Even if I test the coolant and the necessary
additives are present that doesn't mean they have been there all
along.

Thanks for the report. :)

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] self insurance is not a good idea without brakes

[Hendrik & Fay]

Because they only come with 2 brakes, you know cost cutting and all 
that. I think they have a handbrake but don't quote me on that.


Hendrik
who is being a snobby E class driver

Dieselhead wrote:

So Woger,  How come only 2 brakes work on your 4 year old Cheap class?





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Re: [MBZ] self insurance

[Hendrik & Fay]

Huuh? Don't you get a medal for running over an Arsebishop?

Hendrik

relng...@aol.com wrote:
...I think we could entertain some rational thought processes about self 
insurance and the

compulsory need for insurance and taxes...


So you have maybe a million bucks to set aside for the day you rear end a 
Veyron in your car with only half the brakes working? Or run over the local 
Archbishop in a crosswalk?


RLE

  


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Re: [MBZ] this guy is on crack

[Hendrik & Fay]

And the wheels are completley wrong in offset.
So the story about the seller being a super dooper mechanic might be a 
bit dubious, if he can't figure out that late 90's 15 inch wheels will 
not work on a pre 85 Merc.


Hendrik
who has those sort of mags on the TE

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

this guy is on crack





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Re: [MBZ] Mileage and windage phenomenon

[Hendrik & Fay]

You can also confirm this phenomenon by walking into a strong wind and 
then turning around and have it behind you, which is easier?


Hendrik
who is always interested in phenomenon but can't spell it

Bob Rentfro wrote:

Last year I made a trip to LA. Going over, driving into a wicked headwind,
got 40 mpg in the TDI Jetta. Driving home, wicked wind to my back, got 51
mpg. Seriously. I checked my math twice.

Bob R
  




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Re: [MBZ] Ford diesels

[Jim Cathey]

Of course, I want a diesel.  I'd prefer a Cummins, but I'm not
fond of the Dodge body or transmission.


The NV4500 you don't like?


What about the normally aspirated?


Dad's (92?) is great.  Not a powerhouse, but just fine.
He always said it was a bit 'off' upshifting, but I don't
think he wrapped it out far enough.  The one time I drove
it, without him along, I treated it like the 200D and wound
it out before shifting.  Gears/rpm's mated perfectly when
I did that.  Nice truck.


What's to watch out for?


Cavitation in the cooling system that holes the block.
Ford's MUST have had their cooling system maintained
properly, or the engine could be trash, or nearly so.
The insidious invisible killer.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] this guy is on crack

[Alex Chamberlain]

> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/2333027200.html
>

Those "nice after market wheels 16 inch" sure look like the special
forged CLK alloys.  Which wouldn't fit on a 116 without spacers.
Weird.

Alex

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[MBZ] Ford diesels

[Fmiser]

I'm dreaming of replacing my farm truck.

Of course, I want a diesel.  I'd prefer a Cummins, but I'm not
fond of the Dodge body or transmission.

So I'm looking further - but I don't know much about the Fords.
A '92 will be a non-turbo, right?  I have heard the 7.3 turbo is
a pretty good engine.  What about the normally aspirated?
What's to watch out for?

I'm after a sturdy work truck, not a high speed machine.  I will
expect it to pull 7000 lbs of trailer - but I don't need it to
outrun my tired 240 when loaded. :)

So what's the word on these old engines?  Trouble - or a good deal?

-- Philip



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Do Chickens shriek?

[Russ Williams]

The top ears should have a spacer between the ears with a bolt that runs 
from the back to the front

thru the slot on the bracket with a large washer and a lock nut.
I'll try to tack a couple of pics tomorrow of the setup on my 240D it's 
the same as a 617.
Come to think of it have to asjust the belts on the 300D if I can get 
sone good shots

with my phone I'll send those to the list.

Russ W.

On 4/19/2011 10:06 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
There should be a large square-nut/follower that rides on the long 
threaded bolt.  That is a split nut, and the nut should have a bolt 
from the top eye


I'm not picturing this.

Our car has a skinny little 1/8" long bolt that somehow
ties into the front of the big bolt going through both top
ears of the alternator and the bracket.  Behind the head
of this big bolt is a big washer, spreading the load to the
slot in the bracket.  The other end of this big bolt, at
the other upper ear of the alternator, was free.

The skinny bolt has a big hex screw thingy at the outboard
end, it moves the bracket back and forth, tightening the belt.

I assume, though I haven't dug into it that far yet, that
there is also a pivot bolt at the bottom of the alternator.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] self insurance

[Dieselhead]

So Woger,  How come only 2 brakes work on your 4 year old Cheap class?


 > ...I think we could entertain some rational thought processes about self

 insurance and the
 compulsory need for insurance and taxes...


So you have maybe a million bucks to set aside for the day you rear end a
Veyron in your car with only half the brakes working? Or run over the local
Archbishop in a crosswalk?

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] this guy is on crack

[Dieselhead]

For the right price you could turn it into a Benz der camino


this guy is on crack

 Original Message 
Subject:Classic 1980 Mercedes 300SD -
Date:   Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:39:00 -0500
From:   Kaleb Striplin 
To: Kaleb C. Striplin 




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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Do Chickens shriek?

[Dieselhead]

You have the newer type.  What you have is the same as our 81 OM616 
I was not sure which type you had.  Glad you found the culprit.



There should be a large square-nut/follower that rides on the long 
threaded bolt.  That is a split nut, and the nut should have a bolt 
from the top eye


I'm not picturing this.

Our car has a skinny little 1/8" long bolt that somehow
ties into the front of the big bolt going through both top
ears of the alternator and the bracket.  Behind the head
of this big bolt is a big washer, spreading the load to the
slot in the bracket.  The other end of this big bolt, at
the other upper ear of the alternator, was free.

The skinny bolt has a big hex screw thingy at the outboard
end, it moves the bracket back and forth, tightening the belt.

I assume, though I haven't dug into it that far yet, that
there is also a pivot bolt at the bottom of the alternator.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Loren Faeth]

Kaleb,

So glad to hear that Regina is ok.  As someone else said, cars can be 
replaced, people not.  That said, it is really tough to lose a car 
that is rare, or has been in the family for a long time.  Like an 
E430 or an 87 TD.  It is luck that nobody else was in the car and 
that Regina is unhurt.


Its a fact of life now that we are overrun with illegal aliens, and 
other members of the 47% of the population that live off the 53% that 
pay taxes.  Few or none of the 47% have car insurance.  That is why I 
will not go without uninsured motorist, but ours is to cover the loss 
of the car and medical, and is not that expensive compared to the 
basic liability.  It is a really unfortunate that in OK the uninsured 
Motorist insurance is such a ripoff.


If whoever hit Regina is a citizen, then  you should be able to find 
out if they have a job.  If so, the suggestion someone made about 
small claims may be the best route to follow.  When it gets to 
garnishment, you may get some action, but most of the deadbeats will 
quit work and then only work for cash after that.  At least you might 
recover part of the value of the car, assuming ins won't pay 
anything.  Bummer any way it goes down, it seems at this point.


When my daughter got broadsided in her SL, I was so glad she was in 
an MB.  IN a lesser car, she could have been killed, being hit on the 
driver's side.  When she got broadsided in my SDL, I was really 
bummed about the car, but still very glad she was in a MB.  When 
Arleen got rear ended, again I was very glad she was in an MB.  In 
each of these cases, they walked away from what could have been a 
very serious accident.


Best wishes to all of you.

BTW,  Anna got the Idle air control yesterday.  Thanks!

Loren
Friends don't let friends drive Toadas.


Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to 
file claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental 
car but I don't need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with 
that mention it up front or wait till later? If it comes down to it 
I would rather have a free rental car than nothing but would rather 
have the money for the rental car. Any other advise it's been a 
while since I have messed with INS companies


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Re: [MBZ] so much for installing new NSS

[Craig]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:23:58 -0400 glenn brown 
wrote:

> After installing the new NSS, the bloody thing now will not start in
> either P or N.  What's up?

Is there some rotary adjustment to get it to line up with the
transmission's positions?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

It was white trash.  Yes, if it was some illegal mexican I would 
never be able to catch them.  I can find this white trash lady and 
get a judgement on her, even if I never get any money at least it 
will be hanging over hear head.


On 4/19/2011 4:03 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
He did not say what the national origins of the hitter were, but 
in Texas the chances of a "guest worker" (comprising a large 
fraction of the population) having either 1) a license, 2) a 
registration, 3) insurance, and/or 4) legal papers is 
vanishingly small.  My guess is that OK is not radically different.


--R

Allan wrote:
>  If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get 
any money.  If they had money they would have insurance.  That 
they don't have insurance tells you they think they have 
nothing to lose.

>


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Re: [MBZ] this guy is on crack

[Bob Rentfro]

Janky crack at that...

Bob R
On Apr 19, 2011 8:16 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> this guy is on crack
>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:39:00 -0500
> From: Kaleb Striplin 
> To: Kaleb C. Striplin 
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[MBZ] Its not as bad as I thought

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I can fix this myself, all it appears to need is a fender, door, 
some trim, and a little suspension work on the drivers side.  Door 
is bowed at the top because it is crunched in the middle and the 
hinges are bent.  Did not get into the structure of the car at all 
nearest I can tell.  So, I guess I can put it back on the road 
even if it turns out the white walmart trash has no insurance.


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Re: [MBZ] self insurance

[RELNGSON]

> ...I think we could entertain some rational thought processes about self 
> insurance and the
> compulsory need for insurance and taxes...
> 
So you have maybe a million bucks to set aside for the day you rear end a 
Veyron in your car with only half the brakes working? Or run over the local 
Archbishop in a crosswalk?

RLE

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[MBZ] this guy is on crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

this guy is on crack

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Date:   Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:39:00 -0500
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Do Chickens shriek?

[Jim Cathey]

There should be a large square-nut/follower that rides on the long 
threaded bolt.  That is a split nut, and the nut should have a bolt 
from the top eye


I'm not picturing this.

Our car has a skinny little 1/8" long bolt that somehow
ties into the front of the big bolt going through both top
ears of the alternator and the bracket.  Behind the head
of this big bolt is a big washer, spreading the load to the
slot in the bracket.  The other end of this big bolt, at
the other upper ear of the alternator, was free.

The skinny bolt has a big hex screw thingy at the outboard
end, it moves the bracket back and forth, tightening the belt.

I assume, though I haven't dug into it that far yet, that
there is also a pivot bolt at the bottom of the alternator.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Jim Cathey]

What are the chances a used line at a junkyard will be good?  Do they
fail often?


Does your car (or any putative donor) have intact anti-vibration
clamps and pads?  The lines 'ring' if they're not there, and
fatigue crack in a hurry.

Hey, I bet you could weld it!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Mileage and windage

[Jim Cathey]

I've never measured/documented the wind effects on fuel economy 
before, so

thought this was cool.


A tailwind is a serious boon to fuel economy!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Mileage and windage

[Bob Rentfro]

Last year I made a trip to LA. Going over, driving into a wicked headwind,
got 40 mpg in the TDI Jetta. Driving home, wicked wind to my back, got 51
mpg. Seriously. I checked my math twice.

Bob R
On Apr 19, 2011 7:34 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
> We drove the ML320 to DFW and back on Sunday. There was an
> approximately 30mph wind from the South SouthWest all day. I filled the
tank
> before we left town, filled it just North of the airport on the way back,
> and again as soon as we got back to town. I was driving with the cruise
> control set to the speed limit, 70 most of the way, 60 the last 30-40
miles
> or so (Texas is weird that way).
>
> Going South, with the headwind, we got 20.3mpg. Coming home with a
tailwind,
> we got 26.3mpg.
>
> The ML is not what you'd call aerodynamic, so I'm not surprised to see a
> measurable difference, I just didn't expect it to be this dramatic. Almost
> forgot, we had an extra 350 or so pouinds in the car on the return trip
> (daughter and son-in-law plus baggage).
>
> I've never measured/documented the wind effects on fuel economy before, so
> thought this was cool.
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Re: [MBZ] Mileage and windage

[Peter Frederick]

Yeah, you can be astonished sometimes.  Makes you wonder just how bad  
the milage is in those pickups where the hood is higher than a tall  
man, eh?  Gotta be terrible.


Back a million years ago, I drove up to pick up my sister at Purdue  
in our old 1968 Ford wagon with a 240 six cylinder.  Used less than a  
quarter tank going up, more than 3/4 tank coming back, so I suspect  
the milage difference was similar.  35 mph tailwind on the way up,  
same wind the opposite direction on the way back.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Dieselhead]

PGA might sell you a used line for $50 or so.  Last new one I bought 
was $125.  It PAYS to keep the plastic and metal holders for the 
injector lines clamped down tight.


Last time I bought a set, it was maybe $350.   Six or eight  years 
ago.  Wish I'd kept the five used ones.



Ah, that makes sense.  Bummer.  On the up side it looks like this
particular one is relatively easy to replace, it has the fewest
connectors and the best chance of wiggling under the intake manifold.

For the very short term, I put in a stretchy 3/16" neoprene washer
from my friendly Home Depot.  Came in a bag of 5, the other 4 and
appropriate tools are in the glovebox; I don't expect them to hold up
very long.  The engine seems to have smoothed out enough I don't think
it will bounce out of the compartment. :) I plays my games and I takes
my chances, hopefully nothing catastrophic will result since it is
otherwise a decent engine.

What are the chances a used line at a junkyard will be good?  Do they
fail often?

In any case thanks for all the assistance.  If I wind up taking off
the manifold I assume I should follow John/Loren's DV repair writeup
and replace the DV springs at the same time?

Thanks,
-Tim

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:

 Sorry, you don't have a delivery valve problem, you have a cracked injector
 line.

 Buy a new one, they cannot be repaired.

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Walt Zarnoch]

I agree, call them what they are. It's not like it's a racial slur, it's the
proper term.
The media and present administration just want to make it "correct".

Walt, who would legaly gain citizenship in any country he flees to should
the US go to the throne room of Hades with a picnic lunch.
On Apr 19, 2011 10:27 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> call them what they are: illegal alien.
>
>>He did not say what the national origins of the hitter were, but in
>>Texas the chances of a "guest worker" (comprising a large fraction
>>of the population) having either 1) a license, 2) a registration, 3)
>>insurance, and/or 4) legal papers is vanishingly small. My guess is
>>that OK is not radically different.
>>
>>--R
>>
>>Allan wrote:
 > If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get
any money. If they had money they would have insurance. That
they don't have insurance tells you they think they have nothing
to lose.
>
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[MBZ] Mileage and windage

[OK Don]

We drove the ML320 to DFW and back on Sunday. There was an
approximately 30mph wind from the South SouthWest all day. I filled the tank
before we left town, filled it just North of the airport on the way back,
and again as soon as we got back to town. I was driving with the cruise
control set to the speed limit, 70 most of the way, 60 the last 30-40 miles
or so (Texas is weird that way).

Going South, with the headwind, we got 20.3mpg. Coming home with a tailwind,
we got 26.3mpg.

The ML is not what you'd call aerodynamic, so I'm not surprised to see a
measurable difference, I just didn't expect it to be this dramatic. Almost
forgot, we had an extra 350 or so pouinds in the car on the return trip
(daughter and son-in-law plus baggage).

I've never measured/documented the wind effects on fuel economy before, so
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Rich Thomas]

You are so pejorative

--R

On 4/19/2011 10:19 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

call them what they are:  illegal alien.

He did not say what the national origins of the hitter were, but in 
Texas the chances of a "guest worker" (comprising a large fraction of 
the population) having either 1) a license, 2) a registration, 3) 
insurance, and/or 4) legal papers is vanishingly small.  My guess is 
that OK is not radically different.


--R

Allan wrote:
>  If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get any 
money.  If they had money they would have insurance.  That they 
don't have insurance tells you they think they have nothing to lose.




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Re: [MBZ] so much for installing new NSS

[Dieselhead]

Amen.  Usually, I find the problem is the bushings in the shift rod.

you need to make sure the two "legs" of the actuator on the shift 
lever are in the switch, then put it in neutral, loosen the screw on 
the actuator, and adjust it so that the holes line up, then tighten 
the screw.  A drill bit of the proper size works well to get them 
aligned.


Usually not a problem, but once in a while you get a switch that's 
far enough off to prevent it from working with the old setting.


also make sure it's plugged in properly -- the lock ring has to be 
completely released or the plug isn't seated.


Also, so the plastic bushings in the levers need to be replaced?  A 
sloppy shift rod from worn or missing bushings may not be moving the 
switch correctly.


Peter


-Original Message-

From: glenn brown 
Sent: Apr 19, 2011 3:23 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] so much for installing new NSS


I was finally able to install a new neutral safety switch in my '84 
300D as the original one got to a point where it would not start in 
P . . . only in N.  After installing the new NSS, the bloody thing 
now will not start in either P or N.  What's up?  TIA.


G. M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Dieselhead]

call them what they are:  illegal alien.

He did not say what the national origins of the hitter were, but in 
Texas the chances of a "guest worker" (comprising a large fraction 
of the population) having either 1) a license, 2) a registration, 3) 
insurance, and/or 4) legal papers is vanishingly small.  My guess is 
that OK is not radically different.


--R

Allan wrote:
 >  If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get 
any money.  If they had money they would have insurance.  That 
they don't have insurance tells you they think they have nothing 
to lose.




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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Tim C]

Ah, that makes sense.  Bummer.  On the up side it looks like this
particular one is relatively easy to replace, it has the fewest
connectors and the best chance of wiggling under the intake manifold.

For the very short term, I put in a stretchy 3/16" neoprene washer
from my friendly Home Depot.  Came in a bag of 5, the other 4 and
appropriate tools are in the glovebox; I don't expect them to hold up
very long.  The engine seems to have smoothed out enough I don't think
it will bounce out of the compartment. :) I plays my games and I takes
my chances, hopefully nothing catastrophic will result since it is
otherwise a decent engine.

What are the chances a used line at a junkyard will be good?  Do they
fail often?

In any case thanks for all the assistance.  If I wind up taking off
the manifold I assume I should follow John/Loren's DV repair writeup
and replace the DV springs at the same time?

Thanks,
-Tim

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
> Sorry, you don't have a delivery valve problem, you have a cracked injector
> line.
>
> Buy a new one, they cannot be repaired.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Dieselhead]

John Reames has a good writeup for 606 which has the same DV, that 
marshall added to.  I added my own notes.  You can find it in 
archives or I will send it directly if you want.



This afternoon (another warm day!) it got a lot worse all at once, and
just now I caught it in the act: one of the delivery valve holders (#3
from front) is spurting fuel.  Seeing it reminded me that it was
repaired by the PO using silicon tape, and since it was working I'd
forgotten it.

Anyway I guess I'll take it off and see what I can see, hopefully it
will just be a simple adjustment in the cylinder and everyone will be
happy.

Thanks for all the help!

Thanks,
-Tim

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:

 lifters?

 On 4/6/2011 10:39 PM, Tim C wrote:


 I started the '87 300SDL with the #22 head 7 times after noon today.
 Four of the times, there was a distinct loudness for a second or two
 after start.

 The first time I was at the fuel station, and it literally sounded
 like a big truck started right next to me.  At first I thought it was
 just an echo, but then it went away.  I guessed maybe it was the AC
 compressor (first warm day, doesn't work anyhow), but I flipped the
 climate control to EC after lunch and still heard it.  Again heard
 when I started out from work, and then when I picked the kids up from
 school.  Oddly, not at the Wal-Mart this afternoon, nor at the Sam's
 Club this evening.

 Thus between the first occurrence and this evening, there were only
 two starts where I did not hear the noise.  I don't know how to
 describe it except that the engine runs really loud - not a strange
 sound, just an amplification of its usual sound - for a second or two
 after startup, and it is obvious enough that I'm pretty sure I'd have
 noticed it before.
  - The oil pressure seems to come up as fast as usual, but maybe it
 started leaking down for some reason?  About 1K since last change,
 that was the first change after the oil pan replacement.  M1 15/50.
  - Might the starter not be disengaging?  Is that really a failure
 mode for a 603, and how would I be able to tell if that was it?
  - Could a fan/compressor/alternator clutch failure cause the engine
 to run louder?

 By way of other clues, this was the first warm (mid-60s) day where I
 made several short trips, and it was humid.  Several of my stops were
 on the order of minutes, and of course I noticed it at the same time
 as the new fuel (and that from a new station).

 Thanks for any ideas, recommendations, or suggestions to relax and
 embrace the louder clatta. :)

 Thanks,
 -Tim

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Dan Penoff]

You have a couple of choices if the perp has insurance:

1.) You can let them provide the rental car, which will be something small and 
inadequate, or;

2.) Some insurers will give you a per diem for a rental car. When my son's car 
was totaled last year the insurance company gave me $25/day for a rental per 
diem.

Ask up front.

Dan

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On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file claim 
> with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't need a 
> rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front or wait 
> till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental car than 
> nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any other advise 
> it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
> 
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Re: [MBZ] that's OK

[OK Don]

Crap - another illegal alien (we don't recognize those from the States of
Northern Agression).

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> RLE wrote:
> > would gladly ride his bike from now on (just abandon his car alongside
> the
> > road) including during the Illinois winters.
>
> eh, I'd ride southwest to OK where it is slightly warmer...
> mao
>
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car insurance

[OK Don]

Yes - Oklahoma has the best insurance comission the insurance companies can
buy ---

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> You can self insure in Indiana.  You simply post a $40,000 bond with the
> state for the duration of the insurance period.  No interest.  No waiver of
> liability above that, either, so you are at real risk of losing your
> possessions, as in home and retirement savings, if you are at fault in an
> accident.
>
> All it would take is a serious injury to wipe you out -- my little trip and
> followup surgery a few years bad cost $10,000, and it was very minor.
>
> Not having adequate insurance is a very poor idea, for many reasons.  You
> might view insurance companies as predatory, as they in fact often are, but
> there are means to fix that (long prison terms and big fines have a tendency
> to make people to the line, eh?)
>
> Peter
>
> --
>
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car insurance

[OK Don]

You can self insure in OK - you just have to post the appropriate bond, etc.
indicting that you are financially capable of covering your liability should
you screw up and maim someone in there new Vette, Benz, whatever.
Insurance allows you to be financially responsible without have the actual
up front cash first. Your freedom ends where my nose begins, and that
includes your demonstrate4d ability to cover your risk when you engage in
risky behavior - driving on the public roads.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Hendrik wrote:
> > Hendrik
> > who reckons that insurance is a necessary evil, like taxes and
> politicians
>
> These are compulsory and involuntary requirements to quell some fears
> that some dirt bag sales force has shoved down our throats for
> generations.  Drop Mr. DirtBag sales man and I think we could
> entertain some rational thought processes about self insurance and the
> compulsory need for insurance and taxes.  This is all about liberty
> and freedom.  When we are required to do this type of stuff for a
> captive business venture, it is usually called scam and illegal.  Not
> so for insurance - all a 'necessary' evil - curious how we have been
> brainwashed in the fears we know how to mimic back just as we have
> been taught.  Fear is a wonderful marketing tool, eh?
>  mao
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car insurance

[Peter Frederick]

You can self insure in Indiana.  You simply post a $40,000 bond with  
the state for the duration of the insurance period.  No interest.  No  
waiver of liability above that, either, so you are at real risk of  
losing your possessions, as in home and retirement savings, if you  
are at fault in an accident.


All it would take is a serious injury to wipe you out -- my little  
trip and followup surgery a few years bad cost $10,000, and it was  
very minor.


Not having adequate insurance is a very poor idea, for many reasons.   
You might view insurance companies as predatory, as they in fact  
often are, but there are means to fix that (long prison terms and big  
fines have a tendency to make people to the line, eh?)


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car insurance

[Mountain Man]

Hendrik wrote:
> Hendrik
> who reckons that insurance is a necessary evil, like taxes and politicians

These are compulsory and involuntary requirements to quell some fears
that some dirt bag sales force has shoved down our throats for
generations.  Drop Mr. DirtBag sales man and I think we could
entertain some rational thought processes about self insurance and the
compulsory need for insurance and taxes.  This is all about liberty
and freedom.  When we are required to do this type of stuff for a
captive business venture, it is usually called scam and illegal.  Not
so for insurance - all a 'necessary' evil - curious how we have been
brainwashed in the fears we know how to mimic back just as we have
been taught.  Fear is a wonderful marketing tool, eh?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] that's OK

[Mountain Man]

RLE wrote:
> would gladly ride his bike from now on (just abandon his car alongside the
> road) including during the Illinois winters.

eh, I'd ride southwest to OK where it is slightly warmer...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Peter Frederick]

Sorry, you don't have a delivery valve problem, you have a cracked  
injector line.


Buy a new one, they cannot be repaired.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car insurance

[Hendrik & Fay]

So what do you propose as an alternative to this "legalized scam"?
Operating a vehicle is a risky business because humans are not perfect 
and make mistakes, thus the requirement for insurance.
I suppose it is the same in the US of A, insofar that those who have 
assets, protect those assets with insurance, whilst those who live from 
day to day, and have nothing, don't worry about covering themselves.
I have assets to protect and have to have insurance, it's only third 
party property because my cars are not worth that much and I can afford 
to buy another car if one gets written off but I cannot afford to pay 
for someone else's car. That's a risk I take, in order to save a few 
hundred dollars a year and if I do the math I am sure that I would have 
saved the cost of the cars I have. It is a form of self insurance.
I am a fan of compulsory third party property insurance, which is not a 
requirement in South Oz but is in some other Oz states. We do have 
compulsory insurance for third party injury, which is part of a vehicles 
registration (which may be a scam insofar that there is no choice of 
insurer), however there are lots of people who drive without 
registration or even licenses, so if you get hit by one of them you are 
stuffed.


Anyway I am glad that Reggie is OK, I was a bit worried because she had 
that drama with her neck when we visited, is she gonna get that checked out?


Hendrik
who reckons that insurance is a necessary evil, like taxes and politicians

Mountain Man wrote:

Allan wrote:
  

If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get any money.  If they 
had money they would have insurance.  That they don't have insurance tells you 
they think they have nothing to lose.




Or, it tells you that they are complete patriots.
Insurance is legalized scam, pure and simple.
The objective is to provide a certain security in a place where you or
your property is harmed.  Many times, it turns out insco end up to
help the perp more than you.
A true patriot would want freedom and deny the state's claim that all
drivers need insurance.
One further - the true patriot would claim the state has zero purview
to require a person to have a license - driving is a matter of
commerce.  And the constitution - which I am reading does not cover
sovereigns anymore these days, thank you Barry - cannot limit the
exercise of commercial operations.
Liberty and freedom are things we assume - but things that have been
ripped from any grasp we may hope or wish we have.  Liberty and
freedom do not exist.
mao


  



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[MBZ] '83 240D 4speed manual for sale

[Fmiser]

Spotted while trolling...

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/2327354284.html

1983 Mercedes 240D 4cyl diesel, Dark Green
Manual Transmission: 4spd
267,000 miles
In family since new

This is a good looking Mercedes, no wrecks, and has been in the family since 
new so most likely I could answer any questions about the car. It needs a 
couple of things, such as a front end alignment; just updated routine 
maintenance that I have not had the time to perform. It is a second vehicle to 
me and I don't need it so I'm looking for someone who can appreciate this car 
and give it the time it deserves. Feel free to call, txt or email with any 
questions. Thanks! 

No affiliation

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?

[Dieselhead]

There should be a large square-nut/follower that rides on the long 
threaded bolt.  That is a split nut, and the nut should have a bolt 
from the top eye of the alt through 1/2 of the split nut threaded 
into the far side if the split nut.  IF the split nut is flipped 
over, the small bolt from the alt threads into the close side, and 
there is NO clamping action.


In that case,  it would do what you describe.


Normal tightening procedure is to loosen the clamp bolt, adjust the 
tension, then tighten the clamp bolt.



Didn't you say that you just put this one back into service after a 
long downtime? Are you sure that the tensioner is backing off or is 
it the rust on the pulleys wearing the belts down and causing the 
loosening?


It's coming loose, definitely.  Belts aren't wearing.


Uh,  the clamp bolt.

Usually, the rust keeps it locked solid.
Maybe try purple loctite?


What clamp bolt?  This is the adjuster that sticks
out the side like it's making a right turn.  Uses a
13mm wrench to adjust.   No clamp bolt I can see,
it's supposed to have a tight enough friction fit
to stay put.

Which this one does not, and so it's now wearing a
lovely dab of blue locktite.  We'll see how it goes.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Tim C]

Okay, I need to break this down.  I looked in the EPC but I have no
idea what I am seeing.  I have never messed with an IP so I'd be happy
for pointers. :)

I pulled the DV cover open at work, scraped all the old silicon tape
out.  The little metal ring that sits on top of the line is obviously
cracked; I assume that is supposed to be like a washer, pushing down
the cover of the fuel line, which then (correctly) sits in its little
cone in the DV.  I don't see how I can get the fuel line apart to
replace the little washer.

To make the car work this evening, I put on some new silicon tape.  I
also tried using one of my oil washers, but while it fit it didn't
seem to do anything useful, so I took it out lest it decompose into
the IP.  Will pull out the silicon tape since it's not helping much,
if any; had to two-foot high idle it all the way home.

To make the car work tomorrow, what can I pick up today?  Anything?
[Or is that, "go outside and fix the 300D"... :]

Will new o-rings and copper seals fix the fuel line leak?  I thought
that was for below the DV.  Or does that make it not run the fuel up?

Thanks,
-Tim

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
> Get new o-rings and copper seals and do the job properly -- you are losing 
> prime on the IP and it will be very hard to start in cold weather.
>
> Peter
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Tim C 
>>Sent: Apr 19, 2011 1:30 PM
>>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise
>>
>>This afternoon (another warm day!) it got a lot worse all at once, and
>>just now I caught it in the act: one of the delivery valve holders (#3
>>from front) is spurting fuel.  Seeing it reminded me that it was
>>repaired by the PO using silicon tape, and since it was working I'd
>>forgotten it.
>>
>>Anyway I guess I'll take it off and see what I can see, hopefully it
>>will just be a simple adjustment in the cylinder and everyone will be
>>happy.
>>
>>Thanks for all the help!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-Tim
>>
>>On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>>> lifters?
>>>
>>> On 4/6/2011 10:39 PM, Tim C wrote:

 I started the '87 300SDL with the #22 head 7 times after noon today.
 Four of the times, there was a distinct loudness for a second or two
 after start.

 The first time I was at the fuel station, and it literally sounded
 like a big truck started right next to me.  At first I thought it was
 just an echo, but then it went away.  I guessed maybe it was the AC
 compressor (first warm day, doesn't work anyhow), but I flipped the
 climate control to EC after lunch and still heard it.  Again heard
 when I started out from work, and then when I picked the kids up from
 school.  Oddly, not at the Wal-Mart this afternoon, nor at the Sam's
 Club this evening.

 Thus between the first occurrence and this evening, there were only
 two starts where I did not hear the noise.  I don't know how to
 describe it except that the engine runs really loud - not a strange
 sound, just an amplification of its usual sound - for a second or two
 after startup, and it is obvious enough that I'm pretty sure I'd have
 noticed it before.
  - The oil pressure seems to come up as fast as usual, but maybe it
 started leaking down for some reason?  About 1K since last change,
 that was the first change after the oil pan replacement.  M1 15/50.
  - Might the starter not be disengaging?  Is that really a failure
 mode for a 603, and how would I be able to tell if that was it?
  - Could a fan/compressor/alternator clutch failure cause the engine
 to run louder?

 By way of other clues, this was the first warm (mid-60s) day where I
 made several short trips, and it was humid.  Several of my stops were
 on the order of minutes, and of course I noticed it at the same time
 as the new fuel (and that from a new station).

 Thanks for any ideas, recommendations, or suggestions to relax and
 embrace the louder clatta. :)

 Thanks,
 -Tim

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Re: [MBZ] that's OK

[RELNGSON]

> ...He did not say what the national origins of the hitter were, but in
> Texas the chances of a "guest worker" (comprising a large fraction of
> the population) having either 1) a license, 2) a registration, 3)
> insurance, and/or 4) legal papers is vanishingly small.  My guess is
> that OK is not radically different
> 
All of this would be ok with Mao because it's all a conspiracy anyway. He 
would gladly ride his bike from now on (just abandon his car alongside the 
road) including during the Illinois winters.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] underinsured/uninsured

[RELNGSON]

> ...All uninsured  does here is cover medical bills if the other party 
> does not have insurance
> 
Your State Insurance Commission is to blame.

Underinsured coverage for the property damage portion of my policy is 18 
bucks annually for two cars and is mandatory by Washington state law.

RLE
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] so much for installing new NSS

[Peter Frederick]

you need to make sure the two "legs" of the actuator on the shift lever are in 
the switch, then put it in neutral, loosen the screw on the actuator, and 
adjust it so that the holes line up, then tighten the screw.  A drill bit of 
the proper size works well to get them aligned.

Usually not a problem, but once in a while you get a switch that's far enough 
off to prevent it from working with the old setting.

also make sure it's plugged in properly -- the lock ring has to be completely 
released or the plug isn't seated.

Also, so the plastic bushings in the levers need to be replaced?  A sloppy 
shift rod from worn or missing bushings may not be moving the switch correctly.

Peter


-Original Message-
>From: glenn brown 
>Sent: Apr 19, 2011 3:23 PM
>To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>Subject: [MBZ] so much for installing new NSS
>
>
>I was finally able to install a new neutral safety switch in my '84 300D as 
>the original one got to a point where it would not start in P . . . only in N. 
> After installing the new NSS, the bloody thing now will not start in either P 
>or N.  What's up?  TIA.
> 
>G. M. Brown
>Brevard, NC  
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Rich Thomas]

If the car was not worth a lot, or the damage was less than$nk (where n 
is like 3 or 5 depending on where you are) you can go to small claims 
court, which a pretty minimal effort thing, and get a judgment.  If the 
defendant does not show up, you win.  If the def does show up and you 
win (likely) then the judge will tell the def to pay up or work out some 
kind of plan.  If the def fails to do that on schedule then you can get 
them arrested for contempt, etc. and liens on stuff.  At least that is 
how it worked in Mass when I took some jackleg mechanic to SCC when he 
screwed up a brake job on my truck back when ("forgot" to put in some 
parts, cost me $400 to put them right plus what I had paid him).  When a 
deputy showed up with an arrest warrant at his house, and his wife 
answered the door, that got HER attention which promptly got HIS 
attention and monthly checks from HER.  I'm sure it cost him more in the 
long run ( heh heh) than it would have to just pay up.


--R

On 4/19/2011 5:19 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Bottom line is you can't get blood out of a turnip.  If they have no
money, and you don't have uninsured coverage, you're  probably SOL.

If there's no question of fault you could probably go to court and get a
judgment but that will at minimum involve your time, filing fees of some
sort and maybe an attorney.  Then you need to collect.  If they don't
pay maybe you can get their wages (if any) garnished.  And remember this
will all move at the speed of the court system meaning you might have
some resolution in 12 - 18 months.

I'm not a lawyer and I don't live in OK but that's how I see things.


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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Allan Streib]

Bottom line is you can't get blood out of a turnip.  If they have no
money, and you don't have uninsured coverage, you're  probably SOL.

If there's no question of fault you could probably go to court and get a
judgment but that will at minimum involve your time, filing fees of some
sort and maybe an attorney.  Then you need to collect.  If they don't
pay maybe you can get their wages (if any) garnished.  And remember this
will all move at the speed of the court system meaning you might have
some resolution in 12 - 18 months.

I'm not a lawyer and I don't live in OK but that's how I see things.
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Mitch Haley]

Rich Thomas wrote:
He did not say what the national origins of the hitter were, but in 
Texas the chances of a "guest worker" (comprising a large fraction of 
the population) having either 1) a license, 2) a registration, 3) 
insurance, and/or 4) legal papers is vanishingly small.  My guess is 
that OK is not radically different.


I think if an illegal alien had hit Reggie and wiped out Kleb's new car, Kleb 
would be screaming long and loud about it.


Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Rich Thomas]

He did not say what the national origins of the hitter were, but in 
Texas the chances of a "guest worker" (comprising a large fraction of 
the population) having either 1) a license, 2) a registration, 3) 
insurance, and/or 4) legal papers is vanishingly small.  My guess is 
that OK is not radically different.


--R

Allan wrote:

>  If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get any money.  If 
they had money they would have insurance.  That they don't have insurance tells 
you they think they have nothing to lose.
>


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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Peter Frederick]

Get new o-rings and copper seals and do the job properly -- you are losing 
prime on the IP and it will be very hard to start in cold weather.

Peter


-Original Message-
>From: Tim C 
>Sent: Apr 19, 2011 1:30 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise
>
>This afternoon (another warm day!) it got a lot worse all at once, and
>just now I caught it in the act: one of the delivery valve holders (#3
>from front) is spurting fuel.  Seeing it reminded me that it was
>repaired by the PO using silicon tape, and since it was working I'd
>forgotten it.
>
>Anyway I guess I'll take it off and see what I can see, hopefully it
>will just be a simple adjustment in the cylinder and everyone will be
>happy.
>
>Thanks for all the help!
>
>Thanks,
>-Tim
>
>On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>> lifters?
>>
>> On 4/6/2011 10:39 PM, Tim C wrote:
>>>
>>> I started the '87 300SDL with the #22 head 7 times after noon today.
>>> Four of the times, there was a distinct loudness for a second or two
>>> after start.
>>>
>>> The first time I was at the fuel station, and it literally sounded
>>> like a big truck started right next to me.  At first I thought it was
>>> just an echo, but then it went away.  I guessed maybe it was the AC
>>> compressor (first warm day, doesn't work anyhow), but I flipped the
>>> climate control to EC after lunch and still heard it.  Again heard
>>> when I started out from work, and then when I picked the kids up from
>>> school.  Oddly, not at the Wal-Mart this afternoon, nor at the Sam's
>>> Club this evening.
>>>
>>> Thus between the first occurrence and this evening, there were only
>>> two starts where I did not hear the noise.  I don't know how to
>>> describe it except that the engine runs really loud - not a strange
>>> sound, just an amplification of its usual sound - for a second or two
>>> after startup, and it is obvious enough that I'm pretty sure I'd have
>>> noticed it before.
>>>  - The oil pressure seems to come up as fast as usual, but maybe it
>>> started leaking down for some reason?  About 1K since last change,
>>> that was the first change after the oil pan replacement.  M1 15/50.
>>>  - Might the starter not be disengaging?  Is that really a failure
>>> mode for a 603, and how would I be able to tell if that was it?
>>>  - Could a fan/compressor/alternator clutch failure cause the engine
>>> to run louder?
>>>
>>> By way of other clues, this was the first warm (mid-60s) day where I
>>> made several short trips, and it was humid.  Several of my stops were
>>> on the order of minutes, and of course I noticed it at the same time
>>> as the new fuel (and that from a new station).
>>>
>>> Thanks for any ideas, recommendations, or suggestions to relax and
>>> embrace the louder clatta. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Tim
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Rental?

[RELNGSON]

> ...Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file 
> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I 
> don't need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up 
> front or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free 
> rental car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. 
> Any other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS 
> companies..
> 
If it really is a write-off, why would you think you (not her?) are 
entitled to a rental car? They pay for the value of the car and that's it. Is 
this 
the one with a salvage title?

RLE
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[MBZ] so much for installing new NSS

[glenn brown]

I was finally able to install a new neutral safety switch in my '84 300D as the 
original one got to a point where it would not start in P . . . only in N.  
After installing the new NSS, the bloody thing now will not start in either P 
or N.  What's up?  TIA.
 
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC   
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Mountain Man]

Allan wrote:
> If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get any money.  If 
> they had money they would have insurance.  That they don't have insurance 
> tells you they think they have nothing to lose.
>

Or, it tells you that they are complete patriots.
Insurance is legalized scam, pure and simple.
The objective is to provide a certain security in a place where you or
your property is harmed.  Many times, it turns out insco end up to
help the perp more than you.
A true patriot would want freedom and deny the state's claim that all
drivers need insurance.
One further - the true patriot would claim the state has zero purview
to require a person to have a license - driving is a matter of
commerce.  And the constitution - which I am reading does not cover
sovereigns anymore these days, thank you Barry - cannot limit the
exercise of commercial operations.
Liberty and freedom are things we assume - but things that have been
ripped from any grasp we may hope or wish we have.  Liberty and
freedom do not exist.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

All uninsured  does here is cover medical bills if the other party does not 
have insurance.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2011, at 2:42 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> Interesting... here uninsured/underinsured is a very small additional cost, 
> so cheap you'd be foolish not to have it.  I'd drop collision before I 
> dropped uninsured if I were trying to pinch pennies.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:36 -0500, "OK Don"  wrote:
>> N, OK is not a no-fault state; no, uninsured is not part of a standard
>> policy - it's an additional cost item, close to the same cost as standard
>> insurance. I do have it, as we've only had one case where the other party
>> had insurance, despite the law. However, I have a fraction of the number of
>> cars to cover that Kaleb has.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?

[Mountain Man]

Curt wrote:
> Tighten the mount bolts...
>
> On both my 240Ds to tighten the bolt I first have to loosen the (17mm I 
> believe) mount bolt, then tighten the adjuster bolt, the re-tighten the mount 
> bolt.
>

Same story here.
Only one add point - check the entire bracket, as it was cracked in my
car and I drove it that way for a couple years before we took a good
look and found it was cracked, resulting in frequent loosening of any
adjustment, yada, yada...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Allan Streib]

Interesting... here uninsured/underinsured is a very small additional cost, so 
cheap you'd be foolish not to have it.  I'd drop collision before I dropped 
uninsured if I were trying to pinch pennies.

Allan

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:36 -0500, "OK Don"  wrote:
> N, OK is not a no-fault state; no, uninsured is not part of a standard
> policy - it's an additional cost item, close to the same cost as standard
> insurance. I do have it, as we've only had one case where the other party
> had insurance, despite the law. However, I have a fraction of the number of
> cars to cover that Kaleb has.
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[OK Don]

N, OK is not a no-fault state; no, uninsured is not part of a standard
policy - it's an additional cost item, close to the same cost as standard
insurance. I do have it, as we've only had one case where the other party
had insurance, despite the law. However, I have a fraction of the number of
cars to cover that Kaleb has.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Tim C  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Allan Streib 
> wrote:
> > If the other party have no insurance and you don't have
> uninsured/underinsured coverage I'm not sure your insurance company will
> help you much as they are not on the hook for anything.  They only subrogate
> claims they have to pay to their insured.  Is OK a "no fault" state?
>
> Agreed, I had missed where Kaleb said he didn't have uninsured
> motorist.  I assume he has already asked his insco agent, since they
> may have some quirky OK laws that might help him.
>
> I also tend to agree with:
>
> > If you have to hire a lawyer, forget it.  You'll end up owing him more
> than your losses.
>
> You should be able to include legal expenses as damages.  I would say,
> forget it if you have to "pay" a lawyer, some work on contingency but
> maybe not for an uninsured case - at least that was our experience
> with rear-ending #1.
>
> Finally, take Regina out to a nice dinner.  First couple nights after
> an accident my wife gets really antsy.
>
> -Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[OK Don]

Ditto - hope nothing turns up in the next few days.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:27 PM, E M  wrote:

> Glad to hear your wife is ok.  The car did its job.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 19 April 2011 12:45, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>
> > It's illegal for sure I told wife to call the police and let them know.
> As
> > for uninsured motorist I do not have that nor do I carry full coverage on
> > that vehicle
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:37 AM, John Freer  wrote
> > > That's why you have Uninsured Motorists coverage on your insurance
> > > policy. Also, be sure the State knows about this as it is illegal to
> > > drive without insurance in most states.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  >
> > wrote:
> > >> She was alone she is fine but who know what may surface. Wife just
> > called her INS geiko and as it turns out it does not appear she has
> > insurance so I guess I will have to sue her and probably will never see a
> > dime
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Evidently God didn't want you to have that car. Is she okay? Were the
> > boys
> > >>> with her?
> > >>>
> > >>> Bob R
> > >>> On Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
> > wrote:
> >  Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to
> file
> > >>> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but
> I
> > don't
> > >>> need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it
> up
> > front
> > >>> or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free
> > rental
> > >>> car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car.
> > Any
> > >>> other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Tim C]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> If the other party have no insurance and you don't have 
> uninsured/underinsured coverage I'm not sure your insurance company will help 
> you much as they are not on the hook for anything.  They only subrogate 
> claims they have to pay to their insured.  Is OK a "no fault" state?

Agreed, I had missed where Kaleb said he didn't have uninsured
motorist.  I assume he has already asked his insco agent, since they
may have some quirky OK laws that might help him.

I also tend to agree with:

> If you have to hire a lawyer, forget it.  You'll end up owing him more than 
> your losses.

You should be able to include legal expenses as damages.  I would say,
forget it if you have to "pay" a lawyer, some work on contingency but
maybe not for an uninsured case - at least that was our experience
with rear-ending #1.

Finally, take Regina out to a nice dinner.  First couple nights after
an accident my wife gets really antsy.

-Tim

>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:48 -0400, "John Reames"  wrote:
>> Amen on the subrogation; they do have staff lawyers who do nothing but 
>> recovering damages to cover insurance claims...
>>
>> Are you sure you don't have uninsured coverage? Some states mandate it, even 
>> where insurance is mandated... (Doesn't that sound like quite the boon; 
>> everyone has to carry insurance and the policies must include uninsured 
>> motorist coverage) and then you have to get rental coverage... And use 
>> by non-owner coverage...
>>
>> It's a bit like fishing licenses; you need a salt water license and a 
>> freshwater license, and there is no discount for having both. (and it's not 
>> like a sport fishing license let's you be in two places at once--if it did, 
>> I'd buy two or three sets!)
>>
>> --
>> John W Reames
>> jream...@verizon.net
>> Home: +14106646986
>> Mobile: +14437915905
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 14:07, Tim C  wrote:
>>
>> > My lesson, as I posted yesterday, came from this very forum: go
>> > through your own insurance company.  If you don't have rental you can
>> > pay out of pocket, and the insco will subrogate and you might even get
>> > reimbursed... though probably not going to get money from a stone.
>> >
>> > Glad Regina's okay.
>> >
>> > On the up side I hear Geico is a real bear if you're on the receiving
>> > end, so maybe you should be happy the assailant dropped it.
>> >
>> > -Tim
>> > who knows why his SDL was noisy
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  
>> > wrote:
>> >> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file 
>> >> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I 
>> >> don't need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it 
>> >> up front or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a 
>> >> free rental car than nothing but would rather have the money for the 
>> >> rental car. Any other advise it's been a while since I have messed with 
>> >> INS companies
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Craig]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:17:51 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file
> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I
> don't need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention
> it up front or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather
> have a free rental car than nothing but would rather have the money for
> the rental car. Any other advise it's been a while since I have messed
> with INS companies

I'm sorry to hear of your problems. Let us know how it progresses.


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Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?

[Craig]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:39:19 -0700 Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> > The 17mm nut on the top alternator bolt is missing altogether.
> 
> I checked my records, and find that there was a spate of
> spontaneous belt loosening three years ago, no mention of
> boltery.  From this, and the state of the exposed end of
> the bolt, I suspect that the nut has been missing a _long_
> time, perhaps since I got the car.  (In 2002.)

Amazing how things work better when they are as the Benz engineers
designed them!  :-)


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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Allan Streib]

If the other party have no insurance and you don't have uninsured/underinsured 
coverage I'm not sure your insurance company will help you much as they are not 
on the hook for anything.  They only subrogate claims they have to pay to their 
insured.  Is OK a "no fault" state?

If you have to sue the other party it's unlikely you'll get any money.  If they 
had money they would have insurance.  That they don't have insurance tells you 
they think they have nothing to lose.

If they happened to be leasing the car you could in theory sue the lessor as 
the owner of the vehicle.  I'm not sure how that works in practice however.  If 
they were leasing the car they should have been required by the terms of the 
lease to have insurance.  The lessor probably has their own backup coverage 
though.

If you have to hire a lawyer, forget it.  You'll end up owing him more than 
your losses.

Allan





On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:48 -0400, "John Reames"  wrote:
> Amen on the subrogation; they do have staff lawyers who do nothing but 
> recovering damages to cover insurance claims...
> 
> Are you sure you don't have uninsured coverage? Some states mandate it, even 
> where insurance is mandated... (Doesn't that sound like quite the boon; 
> everyone has to carry insurance and the policies must include uninsured 
> motorist coverage) and then you have to get rental coverage... And use by 
> non-owner coverage...
> 
> It's a bit like fishing licenses; you need a salt water license and a 
> freshwater license, and there is no discount for having both. (and it's not 
> like a sport fishing license let's you be in two places at once--if it did, 
> I'd buy two or three sets!)
> 
> --
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> jream...@verizon.net
> Home: +14106646986
> Mobile: +14437915905
> 
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 14:07, Tim C  wrote:
> 
> > My lesson, as I posted yesterday, came from this very forum: go
> > through your own insurance company.  If you don't have rental you can
> > pay out of pocket, and the insco will subrogate and you might even get
> > reimbursed... though probably not going to get money from a stone.
> > 
> > Glad Regina's okay.
> > 
> > On the up side I hear Geico is a real bear if you're on the receiving
> > end, so maybe you should be happy the assailant dropped it.
> > 
> > -Tim
> > who knows why his SDL was noisy
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  
> > wrote:
> >> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file 
> >> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I 
> >> don't need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it 
> >> up front or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a 
> >> free rental car than nothing but would rather have the money for the 
> >> rental car. Any other advise it's been a while since I have messed with 
> >> INS companies
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[John Reames]

Amen on the subrogation; they do have staff lawyers who do nothing but 
recovering damages to cover insurance claims...

Are you sure you don't have uninsured coverage? Some states mandate it, even 
where insurance is mandated... (Doesn't that sound like quite the boon; 
everyone has to carry insurance and the policies must include uninsured 
motorist coverage) and then you have to get rental coverage... And use by 
non-owner coverage...

It's a bit like fishing licenses; you need a salt water license and a 
freshwater license, and there is no discount for having both. (and it's not 
like a sport fishing license let's you be in two places at once--if it did, I'd 
buy two or three sets!)

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On Apr 19, 2011, at 14:07, Tim C  wrote:

> My lesson, as I posted yesterday, came from this very forum: go
> through your own insurance company.  If you don't have rental you can
> pay out of pocket, and the insco will subrogate and you might even get
> reimbursed... though probably not going to get money from a stone.
> 
> Glad Regina's okay.
> 
> On the up side I hear Geico is a real bear if you're on the receiving
> end, so maybe you should be happy the assailant dropped it.
> 
> -Tim
> who knows why his SDL was noisy
> 
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  
> wrote:
>> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file claim 
>> with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't need 
>> a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front or 
>> wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental 
>> car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any 
>> other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OM603/300SDL startup noise

[Tim C]

This afternoon (another warm day!) it got a lot worse all at once, and
just now I caught it in the act: one of the delivery valve holders (#3
from front) is spurting fuel.  Seeing it reminded me that it was
repaired by the PO using silicon tape, and since it was working I'd
forgotten it.

Anyway I guess I'll take it off and see what I can see, hopefully it
will just be a simple adjustment in the cylinder and everyone will be
happy.

Thanks for all the help!

Thanks,
-Tim

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> lifters?
>
> On 4/6/2011 10:39 PM, Tim C wrote:
>>
>> I started the '87 300SDL with the #22 head 7 times after noon today.
>> Four of the times, there was a distinct loudness for a second or two
>> after start.
>>
>> The first time I was at the fuel station, and it literally sounded
>> like a big truck started right next to me.  At first I thought it was
>> just an echo, but then it went away.  I guessed maybe it was the AC
>> compressor (first warm day, doesn't work anyhow), but I flipped the
>> climate control to EC after lunch and still heard it.  Again heard
>> when I started out from work, and then when I picked the kids up from
>> school.  Oddly, not at the Wal-Mart this afternoon, nor at the Sam's
>> Club this evening.
>>
>> Thus between the first occurrence and this evening, there were only
>> two starts where I did not hear the noise.  I don't know how to
>> describe it except that the engine runs really loud - not a strange
>> sound, just an amplification of its usual sound - for a second or two
>> after startup, and it is obvious enough that I'm pretty sure I'd have
>> noticed it before.
>>  - The oil pressure seems to come up as fast as usual, but maybe it
>> started leaking down for some reason?  About 1K since last change,
>> that was the first change after the oil pan replacement.  M1 15/50.
>>  - Might the starter not be disengaging?  Is that really a failure
>> mode for a 603, and how would I be able to tell if that was it?
>>  - Could a fan/compressor/alternator clutch failure cause the engine
>> to run louder?
>>
>> By way of other clues, this was the first warm (mid-60s) day where I
>> made several short trips, and it was humid.  Several of my stops were
>> on the order of minutes, and of course I noticed it at the same time
>> as the new fuel (and that from a new station).
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas, recommendations, or suggestions to relax and
>> embrace the louder clatta. :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Tim C]

My lesson, as I posted yesterday, came from this very forum: go
through your own insurance company.  If you don't have rental you can
pay out of pocket, and the insco will subrogate and you might even get
reimbursed... though probably not going to get money from a stone.

Glad Regina's okay.

On the up side I hear Geico is a real bear if you're on the receiving
end, so maybe you should be happy the assailant dropped it.

-Tim
who knows why his SDL was noisy

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file claim 
> with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't need a 
> rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front or wait 
> till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental car than 
> nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any other advise 
> it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Windshield

[Fmiser]

> Larry T wrote:

> Need a w'shield for 78 240D -- any suggestions? 

Covered a couple times in the last few months.  Check the
archive for details.

Ended up getting Pilkington glass and Precision gasket.  Shop
installed it.

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:27 AM, E M  wrote:
> Glad to hear your wife is ok.  The car did its job.
>

Ditto!  Can you buy the car back from the insurance co and maybe part
it out, or swap the engine into something else?  210s are old enough
by now that there's got to be some with bad engines out there for
cheap.

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[E M]

Glad to hear your wife is ok.  The car did its job.

Ed
300E

On 19 April 2011 12:45, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:

> It's illegal for sure I told wife to call the police and let them know. As
> for uninsured motorist I do not have that nor do I carry full coverage on
> that vehicle
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:37 AM, John Freer  wrote
> > That's why you have Uninsured Motorists coverage on your insurance
> > policy. Also, be sure the State knows about this as it is illegal to
> > drive without insurance in most states.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> wrote:
> >> She was alone she is fine but who know what may surface. Wife just
> called her INS geiko and as it turns out it does not appear she has
> insurance so I guess I will have to sue her and probably will never see a
> dime
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Evidently God didn't want you to have that car. Is she okay? Were the
> boys
> >>> with her?
> >>>
> >>> Bob R
> >>> On Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
> wrote:
>  Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file
> >>> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I
> don't
> >>> need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up
> front
> >>> or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free
> rental
> >>> car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car.
> Any
> >>> other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Mitch Haley]

Rich Thomas wrote:
You could go into the car rental business, charge the ins co $120/day 
for a full-size luxury car (a Benz), just like Avishertzdollar.


Anybody know what a reasonably high mpg car (Fusion/Malibu/ or maybe 
Colbalt/Cruze class) costs for a week these days with unlimited mileage?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

It's illegal for sure I told wife to call the police and let them know. As for 
uninsured motorist I do not have that nor do I carry full coverage on that 
vehicle

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On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:37 AM, John Freer  wrote
> That's why you have Uninsured Motorists coverage on your insurance
> policy. Also, be sure the State knows about this as it is illegal to
> drive without insurance in most states.
> 
> John
> 
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>> She was alone she is fine but who know what may surface. Wife just called 
>> her INS geiko and as it turns out it does not appear she has insurance so I 
>> guess I will have to sue her and probably will never see a dime
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>> 
>>> Evidently God didn't want you to have that car. Is she okay? Were the boys
>>> with her?
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> On Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
 Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file
>>> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't
>>> need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front
>>> or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental
>>> car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any
>>> other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
 
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[John Freer]

That's why you have Uninsured Motorists coverage on your insurance
policy. Also, be sure the State knows about this as it is illegal to
drive without insurance in most states.

John

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> She was alone she is fine but who know what may surface. Wife just called her 
> INS geiko and as it turns out it does not appear she has insurance so I guess 
> I will have to sue her and probably will never see a dime
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>
>> Evidently God didn't want you to have that car. Is she okay? Were the boys
>> with her?
>>
>> Bob R
>> On Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>>> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file
>> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't
>> need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front
>> or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental
>> car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any
>> other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Rich Thomas]

You could go into the car rental business, charge the ins co $120/day 
for a full-size luxury car (a Benz), just like Avishertzdollar.


--R

On 4/19/2011 12:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file claim 
with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't need a 
rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front or wait 
till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental car than 
nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any other advise 
it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

She was alone she is fine but who know what may surface. Wife just called her 
INS geiko and as it turns out it does not appear she has insurance so I guess I 
will have to sue her and probably will never see a dime

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> Evidently God didn't want you to have that car. Is she okay? Were the boys
> with her?
> 
> Bob R
> On Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file
> claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't
> need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front
> or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental
> car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any
> other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D perfect for Wilton, except it's black

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2328521597.html
>>
> The wing doesn't look that bad, but the ill fitting SEC grill = barf.

Yeah, it looks weird, doesn't it?  I know I've seen SEC-style grills
for W124s that looked better-integrated than that, probably in the
Performance Products catalog.  This one's probably some kind of
Chinese cheapie.

I'm definitely going to go take a look at this thing considering how
low the asking price is---if nothing else maybe I could sell the grill
and the wheels and have the rest for a parts car.  Maybe it even has a
post-#14 head!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D perfect for Wilton, except it's black

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2328521597.html

The SEC grill, BBS wheels, gold badges, rear wing, and one clear
corner lens make it get 40 MPG!


The wing doesn't look that bad, but the ill fitting SEC grill = barf.

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Re: [MBZ] Totalled car

[Bob Rentfro]

Evidently God didn't want you to have that car. Is she okay? Were the boys
with her?

Bob R
On Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file
claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't
need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front
or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental
car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any
other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies
>
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[MBZ] Totalled car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file claim 
with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't need a 
rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front or wait 
till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental car than 
nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any other advise 
it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies

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[MBZ] '87 300D perfect for Wilton, except it's black

[Alex Chamberlain]

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2328521597.html

The SEC grill, BBS wheels, gold badges, rear wing, and one clear
corner lens make it get 40 MPG!

Especially the one clear corner.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Windshield

[Jim Cathey]

All because he doesn't know toput the trim in the rubber before the 
glass?


Yep.  He did say that the trim varied among cars, some was wide,
some was narrow.  I'd learned on the Chevy that you had to put it
in first, and he did mention that he personally would not do trucks
like that.  Unlike some of the guys in the biz, he would tackle the
gasketed cars.   But it was apparent that it wasn't his first choice!
I, however, was not about to try to tell him his business.  The only
reason I was there was to check out the state of the frame, which
was pristine.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?

[Curt Raymond]

Tighten the mount bolts...

On both my 240Ds to tighten the bolt I first have to loosen the (17mm I 
believe) mount bolt, then tighten the adjuster bolt, the re-tighten the mount 
bolt.

Which reminds me the '78 needs it.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:41:46 -0700
From: Jim Cathey 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?
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> Didn't you say that you just put this one back into service after a
> long downtime? Are you sure that the tensioner is backing off or is it
> the rust on the pulleys wearing the belts down and causing the
> loosening?

It's coming loose, definitely.  Belts aren't wearing.

> Uh,  the clamp bolt.
>> Usually, the rust keeps it locked solid.
>> Maybe try purple loctite?

What clamp bolt?  This is the adjuster that sticks
out the side like it's making a right turn.  Uses a
13mm wrench to adjust.   No clamp bolt I can see,
it's supposed to have a tight enough friction fit
to stay put.

Which this one does not, and so it's now wearing a
lovely dab of blue locktite.  We'll see how it goes.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Windshield

[Mitch Haley]

Jim Cathey wrote:

Need a w'shield for 78 240D -- any suggestions?


You could do what we did.  Call glass guy, he comes out
with a new one and manages to crack it after five hours
of trying to get it installed, and stomps off in disgust,
no charge.  It's better than the one he replaced, anyway!


All because he doesn't know toput the trim in the rubber before the glass?
And he said he's been doing it that way for years, and rubber gasket glass never 
goes in easy for him?


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?

[Jim Cathey]

The 17mm nut on the top alternator bolt is missing altogether.


I checked my records, and find that there was a spate of
spontaneous belt loosening three years ago, no mention of
boltery.  From this, and the state of the exposed end of
the bolt, I suspect that the nut has been missing a _long_
time, perhaps since I got the car.  (In 2002.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Windshield

[Jim Cathey]

Need a w'shield for 78 240D -- any suggestions?


You could do what we did.  Call glass guy, he comes out
with a new one and manages to crack it after five hours
of trying to get it installed, and stomps off in disgust,
no charge.  It's better than the one he replaced, anyway!

-- Jim



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[MBZ] W123 Windshield

[Larry T]

Howdy -- 

Need a w'shield for 78 240D -- any suggestions? 



Pls reply to l02tur...@comcast.net - for some reason I have to go to the 
comcast mail system to get my mail for this and several other lists. 



Thx 

LarryT 

78 240D 

91 300D 



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Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?

[Jim Cathey]

There are 3 bolts that have to be loosened.


Now I see what's going on!  The 17mm nut on the top alternator
bolt is missing altogether.  I put in one from the junk box
(w/lock washer) and tightened it.  That oughta help, and it
certainly explains the suddenness of the problem.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Wife rear-ended... continued...

[Jim Cathey]

So... bumper shocks... can I just pull a good-looking pair out of the
junkyard?  Looks like a simple three-bolt assembly through the trunk,
I assume the bumper attachment is similar?  What's the proper name, if
I should buy new?


Not sure you can, or would want to buy new ones.  New SDL bumpers
are near-unobtanium by now, and were shockingly expensive the last
time SWMBA was rear-ended in ours.  (Not our dime that time.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Wife rear-ended... continued...

[Tim C]

I do not have the wherewithal to make major modifications to SWMBO. :)
In 66% of her rear-end collisions this year she had stopped for
someone in front of her, so I can't really lay blame except maybe her
reactions are too abrupt.  She claims to be okay, wouldn't go to
hospital or ob, and went on about her day after, so...

Looking the SDL over, there are two obvious bits of damage: a
quarter-sized gouge out of the driver's side rear bumper, and a clear
rotation in the bumper (those little shock things? are different sizes
now).  From the scuffing it looks like the impact was mostly on the
left 3/4 of the bumper, which absorbed most of the energy by lifting
the back end of the car (or pushing the assailant under it, whichever
you prefer :).  I am very glad she was in the SDL, it would have been
a lot of damage - and probably a more painful impact - in the
plastic-tastic Ford.

So... bumper shocks... can I just pull a good-looking pair out of the
junkyard?  Looks like a simple three-bolt assembly through the trunk,
I assume the bumper attachment is similar?  What's the proper name, if
I should buy new?

Thanks,
-Tim

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Walt Zarnoch  wrote:
> And then she would put a bright red footprint on his rear end!
>
> Walt
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>> Could put one of those big orange triangle things accross her rear end.
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Re: [MBZ] SDL timing

[Max Dillon]

What is this "go get" stufff?  Jim seems to just look in the nearest pile and 
find what will work, I don't think I ever read anything from him about "go 
getting" unless it's to the junk yard.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 8:07:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL timing

You are late again.  After I got the cam right, the IP was 22 BTCD. 
More than one tooth.  Gotta go get a 7/16 bolt for the Catheyesque IP 
lock, but before the weather gets decent again, the real deal will 
probably show up from Mr. Q


>I think that if the lack of a chain tensioner allowed the chain to move one
>tooth on the cam, it would NOT allow the same to happen on the IP 
>timer.  If you
>spring for the IP locking tool, you can use this to check the 
>timing, or you can
>simply remove the plug and have a helper watch the hole carefully to see when
>the slot moves into view, and note the pointer/crank balancer 
>relation when the
>slot is exactly in the middle of the hole.
>
>  Very respectfully,
>/s/
>Max Dillon
>'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
>'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
>'73 Balboa 20 (High & dry until the head is back on)
>Charleston SC
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
>To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 12:15:39 AM
>Subject: [MBZ] SDL timing
>
>I checked the valve timing/chain stretch on the SDL this afternoon. 
>Guess what! 
>The chain is not stretched.  It actually shrunk.  It was at 22 
>degrees BTDC (no
>typo)  After a lot of checking and double checking, and yes, some triple
>checking, i determined the indicator on the crank was accurate, or 
>near enough.
>
>Then I took out the tensioner, and discovered/re-remembered that on the OM60x
>you can move the chain over a tooth without breaking the chain.  So I moved it
>one tooth, and ended up with 1 1/2 to 2 degrees stretch.  So, the chain is
>good.  Guides are good.  tensioner is good.
>
>Now I am guessing the IP is also off one tooth.  Not good.  That is the next
>part of the condenser replacement project.  Phase 3.  I am NOT looking forward
>to that.  I'd much rather time a 621, or a 615 or a 616 or even a 617.
>
>x
>
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Re: [MBZ] Do Chickens shriek?

[Russ Williams]

Jim,

There are 3 bolts that have to be loosened.
2 on the alt one top one bottom and one where the bracket mounts to the 
block.
If you don't loosen them the adjusting bolt will bend DAMHIK. when you 
get the Alt

adjusted tighten them back up. They are either 15 or 17 mm.

Russ W.

On 4/19/2011 1:41 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Didn't you say that you just put this one back into service after a 
long downtime? Are you sure that the tensioner is backing off or is 
it the rust on the pulleys wearing the belts down and causing the 
loosening?


It's coming loose, definitely.  Belts aren't wearing.


Uh,  the clamp bolt.

Usually, the rust keeps it locked solid.
Maybe try purple loctite?


What clamp bolt?  This is the adjuster that sticks
out the side like it's making a right turn.  Uses a
13mm wrench to adjust.   No clamp bolt I can see,
it's supposed to have a tight enough friction fit
to stay put.

Which this one does not, and so it's now wearing a
lovely dab of blue locktite.  We'll see how it goes.

-- Jim


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