Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers

2011-09-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
I too have an airless sprayer and it works well enough for some jobs, 
bought it to paint the lounge but it's too messy for indoor use, unless 
you cover everything you don't want painted.
Ended up that I made the missus paint the lounge with a brush because of 
the rough texture on the walls we could not use a roller.
I did use the airless thingy to spray my shed and as long as you water 
down the paint so it runs through the machine, it made that job real 
easy and quick.


Hendrik
who is making sure that people are paying attention by sometimes not 
writing a 'who is'



Dan Penoff wrote:

Mine was not the kind that slings paint, it was a teal sprayer. I think I 
paid a little under $100 for it. No hoses, all self-contained.

I believe it used some sort of vibrating or reciprocating arrangement to run 
the pump portion, hence the noise level. It was like an electric razor on 
steroids to give you an idea of the noise it made.

Very difficult to control the paint flow, and using a latex paint I found it to 
have a really poor pattern in that the droplets it sprayed were quite large.

I bought it to do a number of closet doors that I didn't want to brush, but the 
results were so poor I ended up redoing them with a brush

Dan

  

  



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Re: [MBZ] Beemer Dude seems depressed

2011-09-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 23, 2011 9:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2614059196.html


With all those new parts that is a great deal on one of the best cars BMW
ever made, the E34 ( although I 'd rather have the big six).

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers

2011-09-24 Thread Dan Penoff
I have this thing that is a long handle with a roller thar you use like a 
syringe. You suck paint up into the handle, then compress it as you go, 
feeding paint to the roller.

Haven't used it in some time, but it was fairly effective. Lots of cleanup to 
do with all the bits and pieces, however.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2011, at 1:31 AM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com 
wrote:

 I second the roller that holds paint in the handle, kind of like a big
 syringe.  I think they are about $20 and work very well for large areas.  In
 addition to reducing trips to the paint bucket, the long handle lets you
 reach almost anything without a ladder (and that really speeds things up).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 6:19 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers
 
 My cousin has a roller handle with a pump and suction hose, you manually
 stroke 
 it to bring more paint up to the roller. I'm sure it was cheaper than a
 Power 
 Painter, and assume there'd be less splatter from a roller than from an
 airless 
 sprayer.
 
 On the E420, was that the one that was parked for some time, and you want to
 
 sell? If the problem was self healing, it'll probably continue to get better
 
 with usage and M-1.
 
 Mitch.
 
 
 Craig wrote:
 I need to paint the insides of the walls from which we removed the
 asbestos contaminated sheetrock.
 
 I have been thinking about one of those cheap airless paint sprayers that
 works by slinging the paint off a rotating scroll part. IIRC, Wagner
 makes one.
 
 Are those any good? Is there a better alternative?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Beemer Dude seems depressed

2011-09-24 Thread Michael Canfield
I think I would be having the crackhead mechanic arrested for stealing my
converter if I was him.

Sounds like a sweet deal for a Beemer nut.

Mike
On Sep 24, 2011 12:06 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2614059196.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers

2011-09-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
That's more like it.

Bob R
Who is paying attention
On Sep 23, 2011 11:16 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 I too have an airless sprayer and it works well enough for some jobs,
 bought it to paint the lounge but it's too messy for indoor use, unless
 you cover everything you don't want painted.
 Ended up that I made the missus paint the lounge with a brush because of
 the rough texture on the walls we could not use a roller.
 I did use the airless thingy to spray my shed and as long as you water
 down the paint so it runs through the machine, it made that job real
 easy and quick.

 Hendrik
 who is making sure that people are paying attention by sometimes not
 writing a 'who is'


 Dan Penoff wrote:
 Mine was not the kind that slings paint, it was a teal sprayer. I think
I paid a little under $100 for it. No hoses, all self-contained.

 I believe it used some sort of vibrating or reciprocating arrangement to
run the pump portion, hence the noise level. It was like an electric razor
on steroids to give you an idea of the noise it made.

 Very difficult to control the paint flow, and using a latex paint I found
it to have a really poor pattern in that the droplets it sprayed were quite
large.

 I bought it to do a number of closet doors that I didn't want to brush,
but the results were so poor I ended up redoing them with a brush

 Dan






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[MBZ] A paint roller won't do ...

2011-09-24 Thread Craig
Thanks to all who suggested paint rollers that suck up paint into the
handle. Those would work well if we were painting a normal wall. As I
said in my original post, however,

 I need to paint the INSIDES of the walls from which we removed the
 asbestos contaminated sheetrock. [emphasis added]

I need to paint around the exposed 2x4s and in all the nooks and crannies,
encapsulating whatever asbestos fibers are left.

I think Dan's suggestion,

 I have used the rental bulk sprayers, and they are, without question,
 the only way to go when painting large areas. It requires more prep
 work, but you can cover a far greater area in much less time.

is what I will explore.

Thank you for the information that the paint slingers are not worth the
bother.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

2011-09-24 Thread Max Dillon
Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi guys,
As some of you already know, last week I picked up a 1967 300SEL thats
been
sitting since the late 1980s.  I've modernized my website and started a
blog
about my work on this (and other) cars that some of you might be
interested
in.

http://www.jaimekop.com/

Enjoy,
Jaime
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Looks like a lot of fun!

Max
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Re: [MBZ] A paint roller won't do ...

2011-09-24 Thread Dan Penoff
The best thing about the rental bulk sprayers is that they can cover a very 
large area in a short time.

A couple of caveats:

They use a LOT of paint

You have to move quickly, or you will put down a gallon of paint in a very 
small area

Once you get the hang of it things go very rapidly. Just find a place you can 
practice a couple of shots and you'll be good to go.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 Thanks to all who suggested paint rollers that suck up paint into the
 handle. Those would work well if we were painting a normal wall. As I
 said in my original post, however,
 
 I need to paint the INSIDES of the walls from which we removed the
 asbestos contaminated sheetrock. [emphasis added]
 
 I need to paint around the exposed 2x4s and in all the nooks and crannies,
 encapsulating whatever asbestos fibers are left.
 
 I think Dan's suggestion,
 
 I have used the rental bulk sprayers, and they are, without question,
 the only way to go when painting large areas. It requires more prep
 work, but you can cover a far greater area in much less time.
 
 is what I will explore.
 
 Thank you for the information that the paint slingers are not worth the
 bother.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers

2011-09-24 Thread Jim Cathey
I too have an airless sprayer and it works well enough for some jobs, 
bought it to paint the lounge but it's too messy for indoor use, 
unless you cover everything you don't want painted.


When we painted the kitchen, part w/popcorn ceiling, I made a deal
with my wife.  She prepped, I painted.  I used the airless.  I think
it took me 20 minutes, whereas she spent a couple of days cleaning and
masking.  She was not happy to see how fast the airless sprayer went,
her first exposure to one!  (Typical Wagner suck-from-a-bucket type.)

They're also excellent at laying on paint that you're going to
brush out.

I have a buzzer type that I got at a garage sale, but I've never
used it.  Looks noisy!  The Wagner is the typical high-pressure
diaphragm hydraulic pump.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] A paint roller won't do ...

2011-09-24 Thread G Mann
Craig,

In your instance, a rental of an airless paint rig makes sense I think. The
type I have is almost like a car wash in output. The paint comes out of the
nozzle at 1200 psi, it covers ever possible nook and cranny, which in your
case of doing the interior of a wall would work well I think,

Just lay down plastic tarp, tape the edges down tight to cover the entire
floor area, do the same for walls. Over spray isn't much of a problem with
the airless paint guns. I own two and application is so precise and focused
on outside work I seldom even tape off, unless it's a window.

Most rental yards have them, a days rent isn't to bad considering the
quick results you get with them.

Suit up, mask up, spray and return. You are done. It's as easy as washing
your car,, only with paint.  I imagine you want to drape the entire area
with plastic and seal it off to contain any asbestos fibers that might be
floating around anyway, right?

Grant...

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 Thanks to all who suggested paint rollers that suck up paint into the
 handle. Those would work well if we were painting a normal wall. As I
 said in my original post, however,

  I need to paint the INSIDES of the walls from which we removed the
  asbestos contaminated sheetrock. [emphasis added]

 I need to paint around the exposed 2x4s and in all the nooks and crannies,
 encapsulating whatever asbestos fibers are left.

 I think Dan's suggestion,

  I have used the rental bulk sprayers, and they are, without question,
  the only way to go when painting large areas. It requires more prep
  work, but you can cover a far greater area in much less time.

 is what I will explore.

 Thank you for the information that the paint slingers are not worth the
 bother.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

2011-09-24 Thread Dieselhead

Wow!  Nice website too!

To me, the 109 and the pre-1970 SLs are the sexiest postwar MBs.  I 
appreciate your efforts to save a classic.




Hi guys,
As some of you already know, last week I picked up a 1967 300SEL thats been
sitting since the late 1980s.  I've modernized my website and started a blog
about my work on this (and other) cars that some of you might be interested
in.

http://www.jaimekop.com/

Enjoy,
Jaime
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[MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

2011-09-24 Thread W140
 I ask a question and the answers are posted to the site to help both the List 
members and me. Why clutter the list with thanks and follow-ups to more clutter 
up the list?  I thank the people who answer personally. 
It’s hard enough to filter through the list with all the “Off topic” stuff as 
it is.  I have had more than one list of which consisted of 15 entries and not 
one was related to cars or MB’s. 
If  I’m off base, I apologize.  
I was a member of the OLD list where ther was no off topics so I'm a little 
spoiled. Sorry
 
Walt Lasher
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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

2011-09-24 Thread Allan Streib
Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com writes:

 As some of you already know, last week I picked up a 1967 300SEL thats been
 sitting since the late 1980s.

Looks like a nice find...

-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

2011-09-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:

Wow!  Nice website too!

To me, the 109 and the pre-1970 SLs are the sexiest postwar MBs.  I 
appreciate your efforts to save a classic.


This style isn't bad either. How hard is it to find uncracked ivory steering 
wheels?
http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2612119878.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

2011-09-24 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:

 How hard is it to find uncracked ivory steering wheels?

I have one that's close.  It has surface cracks where the center
supports join the rim, but no separations on the rim.  Could be filled
with bondo or similar.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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[MBZ] CL three pedal W123

2011-09-24 Thread Mitch Haley

2.3 gasser, euro lights/bumpers
http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2605515848.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

2011-09-24 Thread LWB250
There used to be a guy I knew who restored the ivory steering wheels for VWs. 
 it wasn't that expensive and it looked very nice.

I have seen DIY instructions for it as well...

Dan



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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:

 How hard is it to find uncracked ivory steering wheels?

I have one that's close.  It has surface cracks where the center
supports join the rim, but no separations on the rim.  Could be filled
with bondo or similar.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

2011-09-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What was the old list with no off topics? I bet it was boring

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On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:51 PM, W140 w...@juno.com wrote:

 I ask a question and the answers are posted to the site to help both the List 
 members and me. Why clutter the list with thanks and follow-ups to more 
 clutter up the list?  I thank the people who answer personally. 
 It’s hard enough to filter through the list with all the “Off topic” stuff as 
 it is.  I have had more than one list of which consisted of 15 entries and 
 not one was related to cars or MB’s. 
 If  I’m off base, I apologize.  
 I was a member of the OLD list where ther was no off topics so I'm a little 
 spoiled. Sorry
 
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[MBZ] 190d tranny update

2011-09-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Swapped out the tranny witha known good one, well it was good last time I drove 
the car it came out of. Took about 4 hours start to finish. It's buttoned up 
ready to test drive. Does go forward and back so will see what happens.  Seems 
this tranny might need that spring upgrade seemed to have too soft of a 2 3 
shift iirc

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[MBZ] Gump update

2011-09-24 Thread clay monroe
She is off to the crusher Monday.  I am parting with her for all of $300, but I 
get to keep the bundt wheels I redid with the new tires.  Maybe I can get a wee 
bit more cash if I find somebody in need of wheels with new tires.

I had a little luck getting her parted out and made another $300 or so in 
engine parts.  The rest of the spare parts shelves will be posted on CL so I 
can make an investment in another tri star some day



clay 

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] OT rental sprayers

2011-09-24 Thread RELNGSON
 The best thing about the rental bulk sprayers is that they can cover 
 a very large area in a short time.
 
 A couple of caveats:
 
 They use a LOT of paint
 
 You have to move quickly, or you will put down a gallon of paint in a very 
 small area
 
 Once you get the hang of it things, go very rapidly. Just find a place you 
 can practice a couple of shots and you'll be good to go
 
All so true. I rented an airless sprayer a few years back to re-stain my 
front fence which was about 70 feet long. Of course I had little idea about 
what I was doing but knew I wasn't going do it with a brush. I'll bet I used 
two gallons of stain but the fence was well and truly covered along with a 
bit on me. The application may have taken 15 minutes but the cleanup of the 
equipment took far longer. The rental place made it plain that if they had to 
do any cleaning I was going to pay plenty for their work.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] barn find

2011-09-24 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Hi guys,
 As some of you already know, last week I picked up a 1967 300SEL thats 
 been
 sitting since the late 1980s.  I've modernized my website and started a 
 blog
 about my work on this (and other) cars that some of you might be 
 interested
 in.
 
 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 Enjoy,
 Jaime...
 
The resurrection of an older car (that is worth the cost and time) is a lot 
of fun, certainly equalling the pride of the finished product when it's 
done. It's a whole lot different than buying an already restored car which may 
not quite meet your standards anyway. These projects always end up taking 
more time (and money) than originally thought but a big mistake is corner 
cutting which will be regretted later.

Your new website looks really good and makes me wish I had the knowledge 
and patience to create one somewhere near that good. I looked at the old site 
again and stumbled across the tale of Alvaro's Porsche Targa buy. What year 
is that car?

Roger E.

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Re: [MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

2011-09-24 Thread Hans Neureiter
If you recall, the what's his names list was categorized as to diesels,
gassers, 116's, 123's, 124' ansd so on -- and general -- and banned,
i.e. temporarily kicked off.
I understand Marshall was on banned for a while.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 What was the old list with no off topics? I bet it was boring

 --
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 '82 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] CL three pedal W123

2011-09-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I came very close to buying such a thing when I bought my 240D. Probably should 
at least have gone and looked at it.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:50:10 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] CL three pedal W123
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2.3 gasser, euro lights/bumpers
http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2605515848.html



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[MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what people think of 
it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job has a lot of things about 
it that piss me off and I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest might do me 
good.

Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 132

2011-09-24 Thread Curt Raymond


--- On Sat, 9/24/11, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com 
mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

 From: mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 132
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 5:18 PM
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    1. Re: OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers
 (Bob Rentfro)
    2. A paint roller won't do ... (Craig)
    3. Re: 300SEL W109 (Max Dillon)
    4. Re: A paint roller won't do ... (Dan
 Penoff)
    5. Re: OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers
 (Jim Cathey)
    6. Re: A paint roller won't do ... (G
 Mann)
    7. Re: 300SEL W109 (Dieselhead)
    8. To those who wonder why I don't answer
 on the list. (W140)
    9. Re: 300SEL W109 (Allan Streib)
   10. Re: 300SEL W109 (Mitch Haley)
   11. Re: 300SEL W109 (Allan Streib)
   12. CL three pedal W123 (Mitch Haley)
   13. Re: 300SEL W109 (LWB250)
   14. Re: To those who wonder why I don't answer on
 the list.
       (Kaleb C. Striplin)
   15. 190d tranny update (Kaleb C. Striplin)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:04:20 -0700
 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap airless paint sprayers
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 That's more like it.
 
 Bob R
 Who is paying attention
 On Sep 23, 2011 11:16 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
 wrote:
  I too have an airless sprayer and it works well enough
 for some jobs,
  bought it to paint the lounge but it's too messy for
 indoor use, unless
  you cover everything you don't want painted.
  Ended up that I made the missus paint the lounge with
 a brush because of
  the rough texture on the walls we could not use a
 roller.
  I did use the airless thingy to spray my shed and as
 long as you water
  down the paint so it runs through the machine, it made
 that job real
  easy and quick.
 
  Hendrik
  who is making sure that people are paying attention by
 sometimes not
  writing a 'who is'
 
 
  Dan Penoff wrote:
  Mine was not the kind that slings paint, it was
 a teal sprayer. I think
 I paid a little under $100 for it. No hoses, all
 self-contained.
 
  I believe it used some sort of vibrating or
 reciprocating arrangement to
 run the pump portion, hence the noise level. It was like an
 electric razor
 on steroids to give you an idea of the noise it made.
 
  Very difficult to control the paint flow, and
 using a latex paint I found
 it to have a really poor pattern in that the droplets it
 sprayed were quite
 large.
 
  I bought it to do a number of closet doors that I
 didn't want to brush,
 but the results were so poor I ended up redoing them with a
 brush
 
  Dan
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:24:56 -0600
 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
 To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] A paint roller won't do ...
 Message-ID: 20110924092456.60f95568.diese...@pisquared.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 Thanks to all who suggested paint rollers that suck up
 paint into the
 handle. Those would work well if we were painting a normal
 wall. As I
 said in my original post, however,
 
  I need to paint the INSIDES of the walls from which we
 removed the
  asbestos contaminated sheetrock. [emphasis added]
 
 I need to paint around the exposed 2x4s and in all the
 nooks and crannies,
 encapsulating whatever asbestos fibers are left.
 
 I think Dan's suggestion,
 
  I have used the rental bulk sprayers, and they are,
 without question,
  the only way to go when painting large areas. It
 requires more prep
  work, but you can cover a far greater area in much
 less time.
 
 is what I will explore.
 
 Thank you for the information that the paint slingers are
 not worth the
 bother.
 
 
 Craig
 
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:41:26 -0400
 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109
 Message-ID: 

[MBZ] Whoops!

2011-09-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Sorry about that folks, don't wake from a nap and immediately email!

Fumble fingers strikes again.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread LWB250
Where in Chicago?

Understand that Chicago proper is not that big, but the Tri-State area, 
as it's known, is probably the size of Rhode Island. To traverse it from north 
to south can easily take over two hours or more on a day with good traffic.

Literally hundreds of little incorporated towns that each have their own 
atmosphere, way of life, etc. You can get big city or rural life within a 
fairly small range, depending on where you need to be for work.

I don't think the climate is going to be significantly different.  Cost of 
living will probably be lower, depending on where you want to land.

Good Midwestern work ethic, lots of good people, relatively safe in most places 
and easy to get around unless you're living in the city.

Before anyone can comment more specifically, you're going to have to come up 
with some details...

Dan (former Midwesterner/Cheesehead/Hoosier)




From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:34 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what people think of 
it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job has a lot of things about 
it that piss me off and I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest might do me 
good.

Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

-Curt

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[MBZ] Daughter's new car

2011-09-24 Thread M G
Went to pick up the 83 300TD today. Drove home about 100 miles without any 
problems. Now just need to start on the little issues. Vacuum problems, a 
replacement window motor for the left rear door, check on what is needed on the 
sunroof and most important look at the front brakes. One side seems to be in 
need of a caliper and hose as it isn't releasing right. That of course means 
two calipers and hoses as well as Akibonos? at the very least. Those seem to be 
the most important things. Later I will probably need to look at the condition 
of the suspension front and rear. The engine seems to be good though slow to 
accelerate. It's possible that the turbo is dragging. I'll know more when I 
hook up a gauge and take it for a drive.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

2011-09-24 Thread LWB250
Those were the lists at Richarde Sexton's mbz.org Web site.  They continue to 
be archived there.

Marshall lurked on the original Banned list, IIRC, but left due to the naughty 
language.

The problem with the narrow subject lists was that there were too many people, 
myself included, who had interests and cars that spanned multiple lists, and it 
made it difficult at times to keep things straight as well as having limited 
traffic due to the narrow subject matter.

They were never boring, it's just that traffic could be sporadic at times due 
to the limited number of members.  The Veteran's list still exists on Kleb's 
site, but I haven't seen traffic on it in months.

Dan (one of the original Banned members)



From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

If you recall, the what's his names list was categorized as to diesels,
gassers, 116's, 123's, 124' ansd so on -- and general -- and banned,
i.e. temporarily kicked off.
I understand Marshall was on banned for a while.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 What was the old list with no off topics? I bet it was boring

 --
 Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX
 '82 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

2011-09-24 Thread w123wagon
I'm betting the window regulator rather than the motor. I'll also bet the banjo 
bolt is clogged, at the very least. Did you check the cap on the ALDA to see if 
someone has messed with it. I never assume the previous owned had a clue. It 
saves me a lot of aggravation and almost always proves me right.

Dave
SoCal
82 240D
84 300TD (Euro)
85 300TD (Cali)

On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:12 PM, M G wrote:

 Went to pick up the 83 300TD today. Drove home about 100 miles without any 
 problems. Now just need to start on the little issues. Vacuum problems, a 
 replacement window motor for the left rear door, check on what is needed on 
 the sunroof and most important look at the front brakes. One side seems to be 
 in need of a caliper and hose as it isn't releasing right. That of course 
 means two calipers and hoses as well as Akibonos? at the very least. Those 
 seem to be the most important things. Later I will probably need to look at 
 the condition of the suspension front and rear. The engine seems to be good 
 though slow to accelerate. It's possible that the turbo is dragging. I'll 
 know more when I hook up a gauge and take it for a drive.
 
 Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Curt Raymond
The job is in the west loop. Little place you may have heard of, Harpo 
Studios...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago
Message-ID:
1316905794.34221.yahoomail...@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Where in Chicago?

Understand that Chicago proper is not that big, but the Tri-State area, 
as it's known, is probably the size of Rhode Island. To traverse it from north 
to south can easily take over two hours or more on a day with good traffic.

Literally hundreds of little incorporated towns that each have their own 
atmosphere, way of life, etc. You can get big city or rural life within a 
fairly small range, depending on where you need to be for work.

I don't think the climate is going to be significantly different. ?Cost of 
living will probably be lower, depending on where you want to land.

Good Midwestern work ethic, lots of good people, relatively safe in most places 
and easy to get around unless you're living in the city.

Before anyone can comment more specifically, you're going to have to come up 
with some details...

Dan (former Midwesterner/Cheesehead/Hoosier)




From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:34 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what people think of 
it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job has a lot of things about 
it that piss me off and I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest might do me 
good.

Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Fmiser
 Curt Raymond wrote:

 I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.
 
 There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering
 what people think of it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my
 current job has a lot of things about it that piss me off and
 I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest might do me good.

Heh.  Chicago is probably one of the least mid-west of any
mid-west cities.  Though Denver is a contender.

It should ease the culture shock anyway.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Benz Hogs
Transportation by 4 wheel vehicle SUCKS as most interstates are 
frequently parkerstates.  Plan to use public transportation unless your 
job is in a far suburb (= more than 20-30 mi from downtown) as parking 
garages downtown are upwards of $14-28 per day.  Some suburbs have very 
crappy parking that can cost $30-60/month to park your car.  Housing 
prices in some suburbs are very overpriced along with fairly high taxes.


 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (316,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)

On 9/24/2011 5:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what people think of 
it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job has a lot of things about 
it that piss me off and I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest might do me 
good.

Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL W109

2011-09-24 Thread Dieselhead

If you buy it, I have a nice set of bumpers for it I'd like to sell.

This style isn't bad either. How hard is it to find uncracked ivory 
steering wheels?

http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2612119878.html



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Re: [MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

2011-09-24 Thread Dieselhead
I think Walt is talking about the Dickarde list.  Or maybe the 
original Mercedes Veterans list.



What was the old list with no off topics? I bet it was boring



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So in other words Chicago sucks

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 Transportation by 4 wheel vehicle SUCKS as most interstates are frequently 
 parkerstates.  Plan to use public transportation unless your job is in a far 
 suburb (= more than 20-30 mi from downtown) as parking garages downtown are 
 upwards of $14-28 per day.  Some suburbs have very crappy parking that can 
 cost $30-60/month to park your car.  Housing prices in some suburbs are very 
 overpriced along with fairly high taxes.
 
 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
 '87 300SDL (316,xxx mi)
 '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)
 
 On 9/24/2011 5:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.
 
 There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what people think 
 of it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job has a lot of things 
 about it that piss me off and I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest 
 might do me good.
 
 Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.
 
 -Curt
 
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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

2011-09-24 Thread Max Dillon
w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm betting the window regulator rather than the motor. I'll also bet
the banjo bolt is clogged, at the very least. Did you check the cap on
the ALDA to see if someone has messed with it. I never assume the
previous owned had a clue. It saves me a lot of aggravation and almost
always proves me right.

Dave
SoCal
82 240D
84 300TD (Euro)
85 300TD (Cali)

On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:12 PM, M G wrote:

 Went to pick up the 83 300TD today. Drove home about 100 miles
without any problems. Now just need to start on the little issues.
Vacuum problems, a replacement window motor for the left rear door,
check on what is needed on the sunroof and most important look at the
front brakes. One side seems to be in need of a caliper and hose as it
isn't releasing right. That of course means two calipers and hoses as
well as Akibonos? at the very least. Those seem to be the most
important things. Later I will probably need to look at the condition
of the suspension front and rear. The engine seems to be good though
slow to accelerate. It's possible that the turbo is dragging. I'll know
more when I hook up a gauge and take it for a drive.
 
 Manfred

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Tell us more!  Color, rust, price, seller, records...

Once I get my wagon back on the road, and get the Infiniti sorted, I'm sorely 
tempted to invest in another project.

Max
-- 
Max, 
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Dieselhead
For west loop, you want to study the CTA train maps and Metra train 
maps.  You might very likely live North and West from where you would 
work.  There are some downtown areas being refurbished, but in 
general, you will find living in most of CHicago proper, much like 
living in NYC or Baston.  Tough place to own a car.  Many carless 
people are quite happy without.


Lots of activities near the lakefront.  Lots of interesting 
things/business/places in Chicago proper.


From Aurora in you mostly want to stay north of the BNSF Mainland, 
until West of Cicero.  You want to stay out of Cicero.  If you take a 
job, or interview, the locals will make suggestions as to where you 
might live.


http://www.transitchicago.com/assets/1/maps/cta_Train_Map_-_April_2011.pdf

http://metrarail.com/content/metra/en/home/maps_schedules/metra_system_map.html





I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what 
people think of it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job 
has a lot of things about it that piss me off and I'm thinking half 
a decade in the midwest might do me good.


Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Dieselhead

Only if you want a car there.  same as any big city.



So in other words Chicago sucks


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Or if you just don't like your organized crime 'The Chicago Way'.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-pension-0925-20110925,0,4585188.story
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-03-22/news/0903210227_1_aig-mayor-richard-daley-bonuses
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-18/news/ct-met-kass-0918-20110918_1_solyndra-loan-guarantee-obama-fundraisers-obama-white-house

Dieselhead wrote:

Only if you want a car there.  same as any big city.



So in other words Chicago sucks



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Re: [MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

2011-09-24 Thread Allan Streib
I was on mbz.org's diesel and vets lists, I don't recall them being
strictly off-topic verbotten but perhaps they just tended to be.

Allan

LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 Those were the lists at Richarde Sexton's mbz.org Web site.  They continue to 
 be archived there.

 Marshall lurked on the original Banned list, IIRC, but left due to the 
 naughty language.

 The problem with the narrow subject lists was that there were too many 
 people, myself included, who had interests and cars that spanned multiple 
 lists, and it made it difficult at times to keep things straight as well as 
 having limited traffic due to the narrow subject matter.

 They were never boring, it's just that traffic could be sporadic at times due 
 to the limited number of members.  The Veteran's list still exists on Kleb's 
 site, but I haven't seen traffic on it in months.

 Dan (one of the original Banned members)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

I lived there for a while.  Don't plan to again.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Short term at least I intend to live very close to work, I've been commuting 57 
miles each way for a year, 55 miles each way for 5 years before that and 45 
miles each way for 3 years before that. I'm ready for a shorter commute.

Overpriced housing means different things to different people. In 2006 I paid 
$180k for a 900sqft house on 1/4 acre, how does that compare? Of course a 
similar house is now available for half...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:22:04 -0500
From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago
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Transportation by 4 wheel vehicle SUCKS as most interstates are
frequently parkerstates.  Plan to use public transportation unless your
job is in a far suburb (= more than 20-30 mi from downtown) as parking
garages downtown are upwards of $14-28 per day.  Some suburbs have very
crappy parking that can cost $30-60/month to park your car.  Housing
prices in some suburbs are very overpriced along with fairly high taxes.

  Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (316,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)

On 9/24/2011 5:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

 There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what people think 
 of it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job has a lot of things 
 about it that piss me off and I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest might 
 do me good.

 Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Mountain Man
Luther wrote:
 Transportation by 4 wheel vehicle SUCKS...

You moved?
From Oak Park to Forest Park?
Oh... big move - maybe 6 blocks...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote:
 I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

I grew up in Oak Park - Luther just moved from Oak Park.  Oak Park is
a very nice close-in town and an easy commute via public transit to
West Loop, I would think.  I'm sure you can find good housing within
walking distance if you wanted - even rent for 5 years.  There are bad
areas, for sure, but most of the suburban areas all have their
character differences but are nice, even Cicero which Dieselhead
poo-poo's - I agree with him, but... there are nice areas even there,
really.  I live far northwest at the fringe of suburbia so I don't
know anything about close-in - I just always like trips to town every
5 years and am amazed at how cosmopolitan most areas are these days.
My neighbor's son just completed a degree in cinema and lived in that
general area - I will ask him this week about living in that area.
There is always lots of stuff happening if you live in town like in a
neighborhood near Harpo.  Plus, lots happening in suburbia.

When you come for interview, Luther, me, Rick, ds will meet you at the
nation's best hot dog place far west from Harpo in River Grove -
google Gene  Jude's voted #1 in nation as reported by HuffPo.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Last time I was there 4 or 5 yr ago, landing at OHare the pilot says, 
The temperature is minus 15F and the wind is 25 knots from the 
southwest.  A nice balmy day.


If you are working for Okra, you might want to have a nice solid 
contract.  The Okra network, whatever it is called, has fewer viewers 
than Algore's network if you can imagine that.  I can't imagine that 
will go on very long.  And when Obama gets shown the door, she will be 
in mourning.


On the other hand, the upside is that there are some good pizza joints 
around that town.


Aren't there any opportunities in places where it is a bit warmer?

--R

On 9/24/11 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I know we have some Chi-town residents on here.

There might be an opportunity for me in Chicago, wondering what people think of 
it. I'm a New Englander for sure but my current job has a lot of things about 
it that piss me off and I'm thinking half a decade in the midwest might do me 
good.

Gimmie the good and the bad in a condensed version.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] To those who wonder why I don't answer on the list.

2011-09-24 Thread Gerry Archer

I've been off and on the list since the server was in Canada.  It seems to
have evolved from a strictly Mercedes repair and discussion list into a
DIY list where you can get info about nearly anything from well informed
members.  The OT submissions seems to be the glue that holds the list
together when it isn't discussing various Mercedes subjects.
My two cents,
Gerry
'83 300D
'83 240D
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From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com

If you recall, the what's his names list was categorized as to diesels,
gassers, 116's, 123's, 124' ansd so on -- and general -- and banned,
i.e. temporarily kicked off.
I understand Marshall was on banned for a while.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
ka...@striplin.netwrote:



What was the old list with no off topics? I bet it was boring

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'82 300SD



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Re: [MBZ] OT rental sprayers

2011-09-24 Thread G Mann
On the presumption you are using water based paint [most are in todays
market] try this.
Fill a 5 gallon plastic pail with plain water, add a bit of dish soap, any
time you stop spraying drop the spray handle into the bucket.  While you are
doing other stuff, the paint is soaking off the outside of the rig. When you
are done painting scrub the spray nozzle and handle with a nylon brush in
the soapy water.  Drop the pickup tube into the 5 gallon bucket and [outside
of course] spray soapy water through the rig until it stops spraying paint
and starts spraying clean water.  Change the soapy water to clean fresh
water and flush the system with that.  There is a material you can buy that
preserves the paint gun [keeps it from rusting etc]  I can't remember the
name of it just now [old timers disease I suppose] but if you ask your paint
supply store about it, I'm betting they know it and carry it.  Run some of
that through the pump/sprayer/lines as a final rinse and your rental yard
will love you.  Takes longer to type all this than it does to do it.  I
always use this procedure with my airless rigs [I have two] and never have a
problem.  All the airless pumps use a diaphram style pumping system so you
won't hurt it with water or soapy water. for that matter I use one of my
airless rigs to paint trucks and large equipment with automotive type
paint... clean up by running thinner through the lines and nozzle.. same
cleanup system.. different type paint. {fyi,, it takes a special nozzle size
and type to spray automotive paint}

HTH, Happy painting.

Grant...

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:03 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  The best thing about the rental bulk sprayers is that they can cover
  a very large area in a short time.
 
  A couple of caveats:
 
  They use a LOT of paint
 
  You have to move quickly, or you will put down a gallon of paint in a
 very
  small area
 
  Once you get the hang of it things, go very rapidly. Just find a place
 you
  can practice a couple of shots and you'll be good to go
 
 All so true. I rented an airless sprayer a few years back to re-stain my
 front fence which was about 70 feet long. Of course I had little idea about
 what I was doing but knew I wasn't going do it with a brush. I'll bet I
 used
 two gallons of stain but the fence was well and truly covered along with a
 bit on me. The application may have taken 15 minutes but the cleanup of the
 equipment took far longer. The rental place made it plain that if they had
 to
 do any cleaning I was going to pay plenty for their work.

 RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

2011-09-24 Thread Max Dillon
Your buyer will surface...

'73 450SL for $6k nearby, or a 108, that's what I'm thinking about.

Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Like a big sedan?

--R

On 9/24/11 9:21 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
 Tell us more!  Color, rust, price, seller, records...

 Once I get my wagon back on the road, and get the Infiniti sorted,
I'm sorely tempted to invest in another project.

 Max
 -- Max, Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Craig
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:04:52 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 If you are working for Okra, you might want to have a nice solid 
 contract.  The Okra network, whatever it is called, has fewer viewers 
 than Algore's network if you can imagine that.  I can't imagine that 
 will go on very long.  And when Obama gets shown the door, she will be 
 in mourning.

Okra? Algore's network?


 Aren't there any opportunities in places where it is a bit warmer?

You forget, he is from Maine. Chicago is likely to be warmer.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicago

2011-09-24 Thread Benz Hogs
Exactly 6 blocks 1 north and 5 west.  Cut $75/mo off our rent and 
added wood floors, a dining room, large kitchen, and a pantry the size 
of our old kitchen.


 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (312,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)

On 9/24/2011 9:36 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Luther wrote:

Transportation by 4 wheel vehicle SUCKS...


You moved?
 From Oak Park to Forest Park?
Oh... big move - maybe 6 blocks...
mao



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