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Re: [MBZ] radials
Alex Chamberlain wrote: The owner's manual for the 1989 BMW 325iX I bought in 1994 said (paraphrased) that radial tires take a set to the corner they are first installed on, and should never be rotated, not even front to back. The patron saint of a fuel economy forum says to never move a tire, as your MPG will drop measurably if you do. He posted pics of the OEM tires on his wife's Acura MDX after 60,000 miles at sidewall max load pressure to prove that rotating was not necessary. Front: http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/MDX_Front_s_-_Michelin_X-Terrains_at_60K_miles.jpg Rear: http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/MDX_Rears_-_Michelin_X-Terrains_at_60K_miles.jpg Here's a front tire on his Accord after 101,000 miles at 50-65psi with no rotation: http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/Accord_Fronts_at_101_000_miles.jpg And a rear at the same mileage/pressure: http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/Accord_Rears_at_101_000_miles.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:27 AM, jgi...@comcast.net wrote: ..U will like it! I promise! It�s the best site ever! Your bug is back. It is probably a java script thing or someone stole your email password. I had one like that a while back. I will post what I did to fix it later this AM. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming
Guys, I can only tell you my experience with TWO 1964 Corvairs. They ran great and they did corner like they were on rails. I once took an Olds F85 small V8 off the line at a redlight. I was a 4 spd manual and he was an automatic. I did not experience any over steer or traction problems. Again, they would leak too much oil. Mine ran great because I had a Chevy mechanic who told me how much I could tweak the timing and points and not hurt anything. Really made the cars run with a lot more power and better mileage as well. And yes I saw several wrecked in junk yards when I was seeking parts (during college so I did most of my own repairs), but then I saw a lot of equally smashed VW bugs and larger cars and Ralph never attacked any of them. I always thought Ralph had a personal vendetta against the Corvair and GM. And yes Fred, that 140hp turbo Monza was something else! Just dreaming of the good ole days :-)) Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] radials
That is all fine and good if you live where you don't need traction. Winter weather will send you spinning in a hurry with tires that hard. On another note, what is the difference between US spec tires and the rest of the world? Max pressure is usually 40psi on passenger tires here but I see 50-65 max elsewhere. Mike On Dec 2, 2011 6:34 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: The owner's manual for the 1989 BMW 325iX I bought in 1994 said (paraphrased) that radial tires take a set to the corner they are first installed on, and should never be rotated, not even front to back. The patron saint of a fuel economy forum says to never move a tire, as your MPG will drop measurably if you do. He posted pics of the OEM tires on his wife's Acura MDX after 60,000 miles at sidewall max load pressure to prove that rotating was not necessary. Front: http://www.cleanmpg.com/**photos/data/2/MDX_Front_s_-_** Michelin_X-Terrains_at_60K_**miles.jpghttp://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/MDX_Front_s_-_Michelin_X-Terrains_at_60K_miles.jpg Rear: http://www.cleanmpg.com/**photos/data/2/MDX_Rears_-_** Michelin_X-Terrains_at_60K_**miles.jpghttp://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/MDX_Rears_-_Michelin_X-Terrains_at_60K_miles.jpg Here's a front tire on his Accord after 101,000 miles at 50-65psi with no rotation: http://www.cleanmpg.com/**photos/data/2/Accord_Fronts_** at_101_000_miles.jpghttp://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/Accord_Fronts_at_101_000_miles.jpg And a rear at the same mileage/pressure: http://www.cleanmpg.com/**photos/data/2/Accord_Rears_at_** 101_000_miles.jpghttp://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/Accord_Rears_at_101_000_miles.jpg __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming
Many people drive on tires that are over 10 years old and have never had an incident. Some have also died doing the same thing. Do you feel lucky? One reason I put my loved ones in a Mercedes is to stack the odds in their favor. I'm not going to undo that by trying to save $100 on tires. Firestone used to have a production facility here in Cleveland a while back. I knew the plant manager. He HAD to use Firestone tires on his car. He would only put Michelin's on his wife's car. I admired his thinking. -Dave Walton On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:13 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Guys, I can only tell you my experience with TWO 1964 Corvairs. They ran great and they did corner like they were on rails. I once took an Olds F85 small V8 off the line at a redlight. I was a 4 spd manual and he was an automatic. I did not experience any over steer or traction problems. Again, they would leak too much oil. Mine ran great because I had a Chevy mechanic who told me how much I could tweak the timing and points and not hurt anything. Really made the cars run with a lot more power and better mileage as well. And yes I saw several wrecked in junk yards when I was seeking parts (during college so I did most of my own repairs), but then I saw a lot of equally smashed VW bugs and larger cars and Ralph never attacked any of them. I always thought Ralph had a personal vendetta against the Corvair and GM. And yes Fred, that 140hp turbo Monza was something else! Just dreaming of the good ole days :-)) Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] radials
Michael Canfield wrote: That is all fine and good if you live where you don't need traction. Winter weather will send you spinning in a hurry with tires that hard. Have you ever tried it? I've been running the underAchieva at 51psi for three winters now. Goes uphill through freah snow that drags the undercarriage lightly. Seems to cut down to dirt/pavement better with high pressure. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Andrew and global warming
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2011/12/01/salvaging-the-mythology-of-man-caused-global-warming/ --R On 12/1/11 10:54 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I beg to differ. I am way more open minded than the troglodytes who refuse to see the light of day! On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Maxmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Great responses, couldn't have said it better, but I'm sceptical that Andrew can be reasoned with on this issue. Thanks, -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Sonic the other day Its a gummit motors POS car programmed to turn into every carhop drive in it gets near. Didn't get that name for nuttin. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
Or like the cheap, colorful nutritionless food served at the same? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Sonic the other day Its a gummit motors POS car programmed to turn into every carhop drive in it gets near. Didn't get that name for nuttin. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
With the car or with the wife? My auntie got a Corvair back in the late 60s or early 70s, used. I remember it was a light metallic blue sort of color, with a blue interior. It had this chrome kleenex box holder mounted on a swinging arm under the glove box, it was really cool. You could reach down and swing the holder out, grab a wipe, and when you hit it the spring would swing it back in. Looking back, I really liked that car, both the styling(it was the more rounded version) and the color. It might have been the turbo, I vaguely remember my dad and uncles talking about it as being sorta cool. I had a buddy in high school who had an older one, clapped out in sorta turd brown color in and out. He rigged up a hose from the dash to the trunk, wherein he would stash a bottle of whiskey with the hose end in it, and while driving around on a Sat night be able to take a little toot off the whiskey. Very inventive. One morning we were all in class, and heard all these fire trucks and such coming to the school. So we go look out the window, his car was parked down the street a bit, and see the firemen spraying the car, it was burning and belching smoke. Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and it flared up and burned the car up. This is your Corvair. This was your Corvair on drugs. Somehow or other his parents discovered the initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old clapped-out beetle. --R On 12/2/11 12:40 AM, Fred Moir wrote: Was fun while it lasted, and I never go a ticket in it. It continues to amaze me that I physically survived that marriage, mentally, well who knows? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
On Friday, December 02, 2011 8:24 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Sonic the other day Its a gummit motors POS car programmed to turn into every carhop drive in it gets near. Is it one of those that's a rebadged Korean or Japanese car? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
On Friday, December 02, 2011 9:43 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Sonic the other day [...] Is it one of those that's a rebadged Korean or Japanese car? Aha it's an Aveo, i.e. a Daewoo. Also sold variously as a Chevrolet, Holden, Pontiac, and Suzuki according to Wikipedia. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Andrew and global warming
Whoopee! YOURE all gonna die. But next year you will be reincarnated by albore the messiah! Right after you pay your carbon tax Already got our carbon tax down here in Oz, comes into effect next year! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
The only climate experts who fly first class work for Exxon. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well the climate scientists should run that scenario in their models, account for the occasional (which of late seems to be more frequent than occasional) volcano eruptions injecting huge amounts of stuff in the atmosphere. And old Mr. Sun too, don't forget old Mr. Sun has been acting up a bit lately too (and other planets appear to be wait for it warming too!). Unfortunately the technology/science just ain't there yet. The problem here is not whether or not the premise is true or false; rather, it is whether the modeling and data are sufficiently accurate to actually make the projections on which all the hoohah is based on. Factor in the big money involved for research and political actions, and the recent revelations about the process for all these pronouncements, and the whole thing becomes a bit dubious to many people (many of whom are smart enough and sufficiently knowledgeable to opine on the physics of the matter). I could probably dig into it all and educate myself sufficiently to make some sort of reasoned judgment, but why bother when the surrounding political aspects make it minimally interesting to do so as all that seems to be the overriding aspect (surprise!). There might be something to it all, but taking away my truck while the rest of the world wants them too (and air conditioning and washing machines!) just ain't gonna do one bit of good. Go work on the Chinese and the Indians, then get back to me after you get them organized. (Hint: They will say tink you berry mooch and go about their business.) But if you are a Warmist, then that is your right, and you can hand-wring over it all you want. You can even send money to Algore if you want. Sorta like debating which religion is better or true based on various observations about human behavior and nature and such. Although I do like the idea of becoming a climate expert and flying off here and there in first class, staying at some nice hotels, and eating some good food and drinking some good wine all the while telling the rich to send me some mo' money. I should get back in the consulting business... --R On 12/1/11 4:43 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: So if mankind disappeared from the planet overnight along with all our greenhouse gas emitting activities, are you saying the polar ice caps would continue to melt, ocean levels would continue to rise, and average temperatures would continue their inexorable upward momentum for the next 50 to 100 years because of Mt. Pinatubo and other natural disasters? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com** wrote: I heard the stats for Kilauea once. I wish I could remember, but is an incredible amount. When Mt. Penetubo blew, I heard that stats on that one. I think it was something like in one day, that volcano emitted more sulphur, ash, lead, etc. (you pick the pollutant) than the total emissions of every vehicle ever made. Volcan Tungurahua in Ecuador is erupting again. We stayed in Banos (actually up on the slope of the volcano, at Luna Runtun, at the base of the volcano, at Christmas 2 years ago. It was venting a bit when we were there. Banos and other towns in the vicinity are being evacuated. It is a beautiful area, with lots of excitement! The people there seem to roll with it, even though it periodically wipes out their farms and towns. (The) eruption of Tungurahua volcano created large clouds of gas and ash above the summit and it's directed towards the southeast and the west, near city of Banos. Ash cloud up to 4 kilometers in the sky and pyroclastic flows approximately one kilometer down the volcano flank could be seen on Tuesday. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Gore was at a local college recently. He flew in by private jet, which I guess is ok due to the privacy of it. What isn't ok, is leaving all your hummer/limo/escort/etc convoy idling for the duration of your speech and hobnob. Then chastising people for driving. At the same event. Then saying it was offset by planting a few hundred trees someplace. You be the judge. Walt On Dec 2, 2011 9:54 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The only climate experts who fly first class work for Exxon. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well the climate scientists should run that scenario in their models, account for the occasional (which of late seems to be more frequent than occasional) volcano eruptions injecting huge amounts of stuff in the atmosphere. And old Mr. Sun too, don't forget old Mr. Sun has been acting up a bit lately too (and other planets appear to be wait for it warming too!). Unfortunately the technology/science just ain't there yet. The problem here is not whether or not the premise is true or false; rather, it is whether the modeling and data are sufficiently accurate to actually make the projections on which all the hoohah is based on. Factor in the big money involved for research and political actions, and the recent revelations about the process for all these pronouncements, and the whole thing becomes a bit dubious to many people (many of whom are smart enough and sufficiently knowledgeable to opine on the physics of the matter). I could probably dig into it all and educate myself sufficiently to make some sort of reasoned judgment, but why bother when the surrounding political aspects make it minimally interesting to do so as all that seems to be the overriding aspect (surprise!). There might be something to it all, but taking away my truck while the rest of the world wants them too (and air conditioning and washing machines!) just ain't gonna do one bit of good. Go work on the Chinese and the Indians, then get back to me after you get them organized. (Hint: They will say tink you berry mooch and go about their business.) But if you are a Warmist, then that is your right, and you can hand-wring over it all you want. You can even send money to Algore if you want. Sorta like debating which religion is better or true based on various observations about human behavior and nature and such. Although I do like the idea of becoming a climate expert and flying off here and there in first class, staying at some nice hotels, and eating some good food and drinking some good wine all the while telling the rich to send me some mo' money. I should get back in the consulting business... --R On 12/1/11 4:43 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: So if mankind disappeared from the planet overnight along with all our greenhouse gas emitting activities, are you saying the polar ice caps would continue to melt, ocean levels would continue to rise, and average temperatures would continue their inexorable upward momentum for the next 50 to 100 years because of Mt. Pinatubo and other natural disasters? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com** wrote: I heard the stats for Kilauea once. I wish I could remember, but is an incredible amount. When Mt. Penetubo blew, I heard that stats on that one. I think it was something like in one day, that volcano emitted more sulphur, ash, lead, etc. (you pick the pollutant) than the total emissions of every vehicle ever made. Volcan Tungurahua in Ecuador is erupting again. We stayed in Banos (actually up on the slope of the volcano, at Luna Runtun, at the base of the volcano, at Christmas 2 years ago. It was venting a bit when we were there. Banos and other towns in the vicinity are being evacuated. It is a beautiful area, with lots of excitement! The people there seem to roll with it, even though it periodically wipes out their farms and towns. (The) eruption of Tungurahua volcano created large clouds of gas and ash above the summit and it's directed towards the southeast and the west, near city of Banos. Ash cloud up to 4 kilometers in the sky and pyroclastic flows approximately one kilometer down the volcano flank could be seen on Tuesday. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Troglodytes and global warming
I am irked at seeing my name on the subject line of a topic I didn't initiate. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Whoopee! YOURE all gonna die. But next year you will be reincarnated by albore the messiah! Right after you pay your carbon tax Already got our carbon tax down here in Oz, comes into effect next year! __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
Rich Thomas wrote: Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and it flared up and burned the car up. This is your Corvair. This was your Corvair on drugs. Somehow or other his parents discovered the initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old clapped-out beetle. A couple of my classmates had old Mustang IIs. One of them was out with her friends, ran out of weed, and was looking in the glove box for more using a lighter for light to search by. After the girls vacated the car, it burned to the ground. Her parents decided that they had endangered their daughter by sticking her in a gussied up Pinto, and out of guilt bought her a brand new car to replace the sbox she torched. Another girl in my class got a brand new Monte Carlo for a graduation present, right before her parents found out she was pregnant. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
I went to school with two brothers who had a whole stable of these that they raced competitively. Also had a retired teacher that lived next to me when I was growing up that had a red one with almost no miles on it. People were always stopping to make her offers on it, but she would not sell. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: With the car or with the wife? My auntie got a Corvair back in the late 60s or early 70s, used. I remember it was a light metallic blue sort of color, with a blue interior. It had this chrome kleenex box holder mounted on a swinging arm under the glove box, it was really cool. You could reach down and swing the holder out, grab a wipe, and when you hit it the spring would swing it back in. Looking back, I really liked that car, both the styling(it was the more rounded version) and the color. It might have been the turbo, I vaguely remember my dad and uncles talking about it as being sorta cool. I had a buddy in high school who had an older one, clapped out in sorta turd brown color in and out. He rigged up a hose from the dash to the trunk, wherein he would stash a bottle of whiskey with the hose end in it, and while driving around on a Sat night be able to take a little toot off the whiskey. Very inventive. One morning we were all in class, and heard all these fire trucks and such coming to the school. So we go look out the window, his car was parked down the street a bit, and see the firemen spraying the car, it was burning and belching smoke. Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and it flared up and burned the car up. This is your Corvair. This was your Corvair on drugs. Somehow or other his parents discovered the initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old clapped-out beetle. --R On 12/2/11 12:40 AM, Fred Moir wrote: Was fun while it lasted, and I never go a ticket in it. It continues to amaze me that I physically survived that marriage, mentally, well who knows? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Hydrogen as the fuel of the future?
Well, I guess there is still hope for me. Back in the 70s when I looked at the hydrogen thing, I became aware of the idea of Solar Power Satellites. Some of the hydrogen people had soured on the Hydrogen Economy idea, mostly because of the economics of it, secondarily on the technical aspects. I spent some time with some of them, they had sorta exhausted the alternative energy funding for it, someone pointed me to SPS. Very interesting idea, a lot of merits to it, really the best way to do solar power. The concept has a lot of merit, technically, economically, and environmentally, but not for small-minded folks as it would require some bold action and thinking. And require much less infrastructure disruption than hydrogen. It was feasible back then, would be even more so today with the current technological advancements though with Jimmah Cahtah we lost the mindset to do big things in an Apollo-like manner. I rang up the guy who was pushing the concept, one Peter Glaser, he was out of town so I chatted up his secretary, she put me on to his colleague Phil Chapman (who had been an Apollo astronaut), I ended up working with them while I was finishing my thesis, then full time after that (and met my wife there!). Phil was an Aussie, a pretty wild guy, very smart (well, technically), he and I had a lot of fun together. Peter had a very interesting background too, a Czech who fled the jew-hating Nazis and commies and came to the US and did well. They were both in some very interesting circles, Phil knew Arthur C. Clarke (and a bunch of other sci-fi guys) pretty well, and introduced Peter to him and they got along very well. One of those sci-fi guys came to Phil's (2nd or 3rd, see technically smart above) wedding, I forget which one, but I gave him a ride and we had a very interesting conversation. I think one or more of these papers might have my name in amongst the authors, I'll have to look at them sometime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power This is a pretty good overview of the whole thing. --R On 12/1/11 7:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Our nation was built on crazy ideas, hell our whole world is built on the crazies, squares never accomplish everything. Hydrogen or solar, or wind, or who knows what. Thats the next thing, right now we're flailing around trying to find something and the thing that pisses me off, the thing that is the most destructive to the whole process is all the asshats that sit around with nothing better to do than say well thats not going to work. Man, I'd said I wasn't gonna do it, and now I gone and did it. Typical... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
andrew strasfogel wrote: The only climate experts who fly first class work for Exxon. Vice President Gore now works for Exxon-Mobil? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Thanks for the tip, I'll send them my resume. --R On 12/2/11 9:54 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: The only climate experts who fly first class work for Exxon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one. Dan who drove VWs all through high school and never left a burning roach in the ashtray Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and it flared up and burned the car up. This is your Corvair. This was your Corvair on drugs. Somehow or other his parents discovered the initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old clapped-out beetle. A couple of my classmates had old Mustang IIs. One of them was out with her friends, ran out of weed, and was looking in the glove box for more using a lighter for light to search by. After the girls vacated the car, it burned to the ground. Her parents decided that they had endangered their daughter by sticking her in a gussied up Pinto, and out of guilt bought her a brand new car to replace the sbox she torched. Another girl in my class got a brand new Monte Carlo for a graduation present, right before her parents found out she was pregnant. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
Dan Penoff wrote: Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one. One of my classmates and her older sister got a pair of late model used Firebirds, a blue one and a black one. Neither one had a Screaming Chicken on the hood, and I don't think either one was a Trans Am. I think their parents, and possibly the parents of the Mustang II girls, figured a small back seat was a good back seat. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. A.k.a. Hood Chicken, Hood Poultry, or Iranian National Bird? Those are the nicknames I remember. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
I'm betting Al Gore doesn't fly coach. Just saying. A bit of research would likely find others who don't either. Just saying. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:54 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: The only climate experts who fly first class work for Exxon. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well the climate scientists should run that scenario in their models, account for the occasional (which of late seems to be more frequent than occasional) volcano eruptions injecting huge amounts of stuff in the atmosphere. And old Mr. Sun too, don't forget old Mr. Sun has been acting up a bit lately too (and other planets appear to be wait for it warming too!). Unfortunately the technology/science just ain't there yet. The problem here is not whether or not the premise is true or false; rather, it is whether the modeling and data are sufficiently accurate to actually make the projections on which all the hoohah is based on. Factor in the big money involved for research and political actions, and the recent revelations about the process for all these pronouncements, and the whole thing becomes a bit dubious to many people (many of whom are smart enough and sufficiently knowledgeable to opine on the physics of the matter). I could probably dig into it all and educate myself sufficiently to make some sort of reasoned judgment, but why bother when the surrounding political aspects make it minimally interesting to do so as all that seems to be the overriding aspect (surprise!). There might be something to it all, but taking away my truck while the rest of the world wants them too (and air conditioning and washing machines!) just ain't gonna do one bit of good. Go work on the Chinese and the Indians, then get back to me after you get them organized. (Hint: They will say tink you berry mooch and go about their business.) But if you are a Warmist, then that is your right, and you can hand-wring over it all you want. You can even send money to Algore if you want. Sorta like debating which religion is better or true based on various observations about human behavior and nature and such. Although I do like the idea of becoming a climate expert and flying off here and there in first class, staying at some nice hotels, and eating some good food and drinking some good wine all the while telling the rich to send me some mo' money. I should get back in the consulting business... --R On 12/1/11 4:43 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: So if mankind disappeared from the planet overnight along with all our greenhouse gas emitting activities, are you saying the polar ice caps would continue to melt, ocean levels would continue to rise, and average temperatures would continue their inexorable upward momentum for the next 50 to 100 years because of Mt. Pinatubo and other natural disasters? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com** wrote: I heard the stats for Kilauea once. I wish I could remember, but is an incredible amount. When Mt. Penetubo blew, I heard that stats on that one. I think it was something like in one day, that volcano emitted more sulphur, ash, lead, etc. (you pick the pollutant) than the total emissions of every vehicle ever made. Volcan Tungurahua in Ecuador is erupting again. We stayed in Banos (actually up on the slope of the volcano, at Luna Runtun, at the base of the volcano, at Christmas 2 years ago. It was venting a bit when we were there. Banos and other towns in the vicinity are being evacuated. It is a beautiful area, with lots of excitement! The people there seem to roll with it, even though it periodically wipes out their farms and towns. (The) eruption of Tungurahua volcano created large clouds of gas and ash above the summit and it's directed towards the southeast and the west, near city of Banos. Ash cloud up to 4 kilometers in the sky and pyroclastic flows approximately one kilometer down the volcano flank could be seen on Tuesday. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming? now kids and their cars
One of my son's high school classmates got a Jagyoowah XK-R for his 16th, that lasted 2 weeks until he bought a tree with it. So daddy bought him a Hummer (the huge original) so he would be safer. My son was driving the 79 TD, and was arguably safer. (Benz content) No comment on any of the St Agnes girls who might or might not have ridden in the wagon, if they could have stood the stench of Houston-heat-marinated lacrosse gear he and his buds left in there. --R On 12/2/11 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one. Dan who drove VWs all through high school and never left a burning roach in the ashtray Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and it flared up and burned the car up. This is your Corvair. This was your Corvair on drugs. Somehow or other his parents discovered the initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old clapped-out beetle. A couple of my classmates had old Mustang IIs. One of them was out with her friends, ran out of weed, and was looking in the glove box for more using a lighter for light to search by. After the girls vacated the car, it burned to the ground. Her parents decided that they had endangered their daughter by sticking her in a gussied up Pinto, and out of guilt bought her a brand new car to replace the sbox she torched. Another girl in my class got a brand new Monte Carlo for a graduation present, right before her parents found out she was pregnant. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
On Dec 2, 2011 6:45 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Friday, December 02, 2011 9:43 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Sonic the other day Is it one of those that's a rebadged Korean or Japanese car? Aha it's an Aveo, i.e. a Daewoo. Bzzt, wrong. The Sonic is a clean-sheet domestic small car design, possibly GM's first such since the Cavalier. Your tax dollars at work! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
On Dec 2, 2011 7:23 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Bzzt, wrong. The Sonic is a clean-sheet domestic small car design, possibly GM's first such since the Cavalier. Your tax dollars at work! Oops, never mind. Allan's right. I was thinking of the Cruze. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
On Friday, December 02, 2011 7:23 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Bzzt, wrong. The Sonic is a clean-sheet domestic small car design, possibly GM's first such since the Cavalier. Your tax dollars at work! Wikipedia says it's based on the GM Gamma II platform, with development either by GM Daewoo responsible for the architecture. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
On Friday, December 02, 2011 10:34 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Wikipedia says it's based on the GM Gamma II platform, with development either by GM Daewoo responsible for the architecture. Sorry, I'd initially phrased that differently and then screwed up the edit. Meant to say: Wikipedia says it's based on the GM Gamma II platform, with GM Daewoo responsible for the architecture. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
G Mann wrote: I'm betting Al Gore doesn't fly coach. Just saying. A bit of research would likely find others who don't either. Just saying. First class is too pedestrian for Al. He charters his own jet. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
Allan Streib wrote: Wikipedia says it's based on the GM Gamma II platform, with GM Daewoo responsible for the architecture. Does that make it the Aveo II? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Secret Message for Rusty
What can you sell me VW 505.01 oil for? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
Roger Wilco. Manfred Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:53:52 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber Please post if you find something good... Allan J C Whitney sells (or sold, when we did my brother's 75 300D) asphalt sound deadening material. It's still in use, so it's gotta be out there, if not in pre-cut versions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
If he flew commercial I am sure he would be mobbed by well wishers. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: G Mann wrote: I'm betting Al Gore doesn't fly coach. Just saying. A bit of research would likely find others who don't either. Just saying. First class is too pedestrian for Al. He charters his own jet. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rusty
Liqui-Moly $38.95 per 5 liter bottle Pentosin $35.50 per 5 liter bottle Motul $37.15 per 5 liter bottle All 3 are made in Germany. Most garages that buy from me use the Motul, it is apparently the German version of Mobil1. It is endorsed by Mercedes, Porsche, Audi VW. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:08 AM Subject: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rusty What can you sell me VW 505.01 oil for? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
andrew strasfogel wrote: If he flew commercial I am sure he would be mobbed by well wishers. And yet you seem to feel there is something wrong with an oil company exec flying commercial. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Not at all. They pose no safety risk of being mobbed by any sort of wishers, since they are not public figures. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: If he flew commercial I am sure he would be mobbed by well wishers. And yet you seem to feel there is something wrong with an oil company exec flying commercial. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rusty
Bueno...I will call you. Bob R On Dec 2, 2011 9:17 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Liqui-Moly $38.95 per 5 liter bottle Pentosin $35.50 per 5 liter bottle Motul $37.15 per 5 liter bottle All 3 are made in Germany. Most garages that buy from me use the Motul, it is apparently the German version of Mobil1. It is endorsed by Mercedes, Porsche, Audi VW. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:08 AM Subject: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rusty What can you sell me VW 505.01 oil for? Bob R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
andrew strasfogel wrote: Not at all. They pose no safety risk of being mobbed by any sort of wishers, since they are not public figures. So the line below was not intended as a slight to oil company execs? The only climate experts who fly first class work for Exxon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
That's the aveo that was built by daewoo the sonic is an all new vehicle built by gm Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Friday, December 02, 2011 8:24 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Sonic the other day Its a gummit motors POS car programmed to turn into every carhop drive in it gets near. Is it one of those that's a rebadged Korean or Japanese car? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That's the aveo that was built by daewoo the sonic is an all new vehicle built by gm Silly me. I thought Sonic was a hedgehog. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
And I thought it was a really bad drive in restaurant Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That's the aveo that was built by daewoo the sonic is an all new vehicle built by gm Silly me. I thought Sonic was a hedgehog. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
Roger Roger, what's the vector Victor? --R On 12/2/11 11:15 AM, MG wrote: Roger Wilco. Manfred Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:53:52 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber Please post if you find something good... Allan J C Whitney sells (or sold, when we did my brother's 75 300D) asphalt sound deadening material. It's still in use, so it's gotta be out there, if not in pre-cut versions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
I don't remember much of it, not surprisingly. While my Dad was an executive VP for a major Midwestern bank at the time and could have easily cut a check for a new car for me, I was expected to go to school, make good grades, and work for any luxuries I might desire. Hence the string of VWs throughout my younger years Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. A.k.a. Hood Chicken, Hood Poultry, or Iranian National Bird? Those are the nicknames I remember. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
I used fake quotes to denote the shills who write scientific papers funded by Exxon and other giant oil companies to debunk any link between human activity and climate change. These so-called experts are hired guns, not Exxon employees, although i could be wrong about that. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Not at all. They pose no safety risk of being mobbed by any sort of wishers, since they are not public figures. So the line below was not intended as a slight to oil company execs? The only climate experts who fly first class work for Exxon. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Craigslist photos
I am hamstrung by my local CL, which won't allow me to attach more than 4 photos to my listings Is there a way around this restriction? I've seen many listings with 4 photos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
andrew strasfogel wrote: I used fake quotes to denote the shills who write scientific papers funded by Exxon and other giant oil companies to debunk any link between human activity and climate change. These so-called experts are hired guns, not Exxon employees, although i could be wrong about that. I see. You don't like shills for companies they don't own posing as experts. How about AlGore posing as a phony expert in order to shill for companies he does own? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist photos
andrew strasfogel wrote: I am hamstrung by my local CL, which won't allow me to attach more than 4 photos to my listings Is there a way around this restriction? I've seen many listings with 4 photos. Instead of uploading 4 thumbnails to CL, upload a bunch up big ones someplace else and hotlink them into your CL ad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist photos
Host the photos at your favorite hosting site (Flickr, Photobucket, Picasa, etc. ) and use HTML for the pictures on CL. CL is not real HTML friendly for a whole ad, but should be fine for pictures. Remember, not everyone has super fast Internet, so keep them on the small side. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:33 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am hamstrung by my local CL, which won't allow me to attach more than 4 photos to my listings Is there a way around this restriction? I've seen many listings with 4 photos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist photos
Rick Knoble wrote: Host the photos at your favorite hosting site (Flickr, Photobucket, Picasa, etc. ) and use HTML for the pictures on CL. CL is not real HTML friendly for a whole ad, but should be fine for pictures. Remember, not everyone has super fast Internet, so keep them on the small side. Or post three big pics, with a link to the photobucket folder for those still interested after viewing the first three. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Rick I appreciate your help I have run both MS Essentials and AVG and both did not find anything. Yesterday MS Essentials found and removed 2 items. Douglas -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 4:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:27 AM, jgi...@comcast.net wrote: ..U will like it! I promise! It�s the best site ever! Your bug is back. It is probably a java script thing or someone stole your email password. I had one like that a while back. I will post what I did to fix it later this AM. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist photos
On 02/12/2011 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: Host the photos at your favorite hosting site (Flickr, Photobucket, Picasa, etc. ) and use HTML for the pictures on CL. CL is not real HTML friendly for a whole ad, but should be fine for pictures. Remember, not everyone has super fast Internet, so keep them on the small side. Or post three big pics, with a link to the photobucket folder for those still interested after viewing the first three. Or perhaps, combine them on your computer first so that two photos or more are put together as one photo? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Boot into safe mode with networking, download the free version of malwarebytes, update it and run a full san. DO NOT download malwarebytes before booting into safe mode. -Dave Walton On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Douglas jgi...@comcast.net wrote: Rick I appreciate your help I have run both MS Essentials and AVG and both did not find anything. Yesterday MS Essentials found and removed 2 items. Douglas -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 4:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:27 AM, jgi...@comcast.net wrote: ..U will like it! I promise! It�s the best site ever! Your bug is back. It is probably a java script thing or someone stole your email password. I had one like that a while back. I will post what I did to fix it later this AM. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
I know of an Al Gore - is that whom you mean? On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I used fake quotes to denote the shills who write scientific papers funded by Exxon and other giant oil companies to debunk any link between human activity and climate change. These so-called experts are hired guns, not Exxon employees, although i could be wrong about that. I see. You don't like shills for companies they don't own posing as experts. How about AlGore posing as a phony expert in order to shill for companies he does own? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist photos
I've never done that before. Is it complicated? On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 02/12/2011 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: Host the photos at your favorite hosting site (Flickr, Photobucket, Picasa, etc. ) and use HTML for the pictures on CL. CL is not real HTML friendly for a whole ad, but should be fine for pictures. Remember, not everyone has super fast Internet, so keep them on the small side. Or post three big pics, with a link to the photobucket folder for those still interested after viewing the first three. Or perhaps, combine them on your computer first so that two photos or more are put together as one photo? Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
But a small back seat is no deterrent at all for the determined and innovative. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming? Dan Penoff wrote: Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one. One of my classmates and her older sister got a pair of late model used Firebirds, a blue one and a black one. Neither one had a Screaming Chicken on the hood, and I don't think either one was a Trans Am. I think their parents, and possibly the parents of the Mustang II girls, figured a small back seat was a good back seat. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
I've known that Wilco guy; 'wonder where he lives now. Wilton - Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber Roger Wilco. Manfred Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:53:52 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber Please post if you find something good... Allan J C Whitney sells (or sold, when we did my brother's 75 300D) asphalt sound deadening material. It's still in use, so it's gotta be out there, if not in pre-cut versions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Climate change is cause for concern. Government reaction is cause for fear. Just my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Rick I appreciate your help I have run both MS Essentials and AVG and both did not find anything. Yesterday MS Essentials found and removed 2 items. If you are using web based email and click a bad link with malicious java script, your email gets highjacked. Okiebenz recently was infected with a malicious java script. It has happened to me. Clear your cookies. Clear your history. Change your password. Stop clicking links you are unsure of or are in your spam folder. Run the latest version of browser. I run Firefox and I have an add on named NoScript to prevent further malicious attacks. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Well put. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Climate change is cause for concern. Government reaction is cause for fear. Just my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Here's some interesting news: *Number of Americans acknowledging global warming rises -- poll * Jennifer Yachnin, EE reporter Published: Friday, December 2, 2011 Story Tools sponsored by *American Energy Innovation Council* * * An increasing number of Americans are once again embracing the idea that there is global warming, according to a new survey released by the Pew Research Center for the People the Press. The survey, which the center has conducted annually since 2006, found 63 percent of respondents believe there is solid evidence of global warming, marking the third year that figure has increased since it reached 57 percent in 2009. But the percentage of respondents indicating their belief in global warming still falls short of the 2006- to 2008-era surveys, which peaked at a high of 77 percent. The 2011 survey included 2,001 adults in a nationwide telephone poll conducted Nov. 9-14. The poll also found 38 percent of individuals thought that global warming is a very serious problem, up from 32 percent in 2010, but still short of the 45 percent who gave that answer in 2007. The survey also reaffirmed deep divisions based on political affiliations, with 77 percent of self-identified Democrats affirming evidence of global warming and 43 percent of self-identified Republicans doing so. Sixty-three percent of self-identified independent voters said global warming exists. In addition, respondents split about the causes of global warming based on their political affiliations, with 51 percent of Democrats blaming human activity for global warming, while 19 percent of Republicans gave that answer. Forty percent of independent voters identified human activity as the cause of rising temperatures. [image: Description: http://www.eenews.net/2/Story/9195/click_to_display/1059957099/ident.gif?r=fp74vtx6q7js=true] On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Well put. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Climate change is cause for concern. Government reaction is cause for fear. Just my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20111202/73f32155/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Just more evidence that the people are easily influenced. I am absolutely certain that only a few years ago we were being told that another ice age was coming. Randy On 02/12/2011 1:02 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Here's some interesting news: *Number of Americans acknowledging global warming rises -- poll * Jennifer Yachnin, EE reporter Published: Friday, December 2, 2011 Story Tools sponsored by *American Energy Innovation Council* * * An increasing number of Americans are once again embracing the idea that there is global warming, according to a new survey released by the Pew Research Center for the People the Press. The survey, which the center has conducted annually since 2006, found 63 percent of respondents believe there is solid evidence of global warming, marking the third year that figure has increased since it reached 57 percent in 2009. But the percentage of respondents indicating their belief in global warming still falls short of the 2006- to 2008-era surveys, which peaked at a high of 77 percent. The 2011 survey included 2,001 adults in a nationwide telephone poll conducted Nov. 9-14. The poll also found 38 percent of individuals thought that global warming is a very serious problem, up from 32 percent in 2010, but still short of the 45 percent who gave that answer in 2007. The survey also reaffirmed deep divisions based on political affiliations, with 77 percent of self-identified Democrats affirming evidence of global warming and 43 percent of self-identified Republicans doing so. Sixty-three percent of self-identified independent voters said global warming exists. In addition, respondents split about the causes of global warming based on their political affiliations, with 51 percent of Democrats blaming human activity for global warming, while 19 percent of Republicans gave that answer. Forty percent of independent voters identified human activity as the cause of rising temperatures. [image: Description: http://www.eenews.net/2/Story/9195/click_to_display/1059957099/ident.gif?r=fp74vtx6q7js=true] On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakisdsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Well put. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritcheyritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Climate change is cause for concern. Government reaction is cause for fear. Just my opinion. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
andrew strasfogel wrote: Here's some interesting news: *Number of Americans acknowledging global warming rises -- poll * So we now determine our scientific 'facts' based on popular opinion? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist photos
Cannot say I have done it but I doubt it would pose much of a problem. Randy On 02/12/2011 12:20 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I've never done that before. Is it complicated? On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Or perhaps, combine them on your computer first so that two photos or more are put together as one photo? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Did the poll ask, How much would YOU [i.e., not someone else like the rich] be willing to pay each year [ or day, month] to alleviate what you believe to be global warming? For such things like your electric bill, your fuels, your manufactured goods, various taxes and fees, your time, etc., or, say, as a fraction of your income or a total annual amount. That would be interesting to know, and a lot more telling that a simple I believe. Answering a phone poll question is nice and easy, but putting your money behind it is the real test of one's commitment to their opinion or belief; otherwise, it's just BS. I mean, we all believe there should be no starving kids in the world, right? Or no cancer. Or no whatever. And we would tell a phone poller that, but how many people actually do much to alleviate it $-wise? --R On 12/2/11 2:02 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Here's some interesting news: *Number of Americans acknowledging global warming rises -- poll * Jennifer Yachnin, EE reporter Published: Friday, December 2, 2011 Story Tools sponsored by *American Energy Innovation Council* * * An increasing number of Americans are once again embracing the idea that there is global warming, according to a new survey released by the Pew Research Center for the People the Press. The survey, which the center has conducted annually since 2006, found 63 percent of respondents believe there is solid evidence of global warming, marking the third year that figure has increased since it reached 57 percent in 2009. But the percentage of respondents indicating their belief in global warming still falls short of the 2006- to 2008-era surveys, which peaked at a high of 77 percent. The 2011 survey included 2,001 adults in a nationwide telephone poll conducted Nov. 9-14. The poll also found 38 percent of individuals thought that global warming is a very serious problem, up from 32 percent in 2010, but still short of the 45 percent who gave that answer in 2007. The survey also reaffirmed deep divisions based on political affiliations, with 77 percent of self-identified Democrats affirming evidence of global warming and 43 percent of self-identified Republicans doing so. Sixty-three percent of self-identified independent voters said global warming exists. In addition, respondents split about the causes of global warming based on their political affiliations, with 51 percent of Democrats blaming human activity for global warming, while 19 percent of Republicans gave that answer. Forty percent of independent voters identified human activity as the cause of rising temperatures. [image: Description: http://www.eenews.net/2/Story/9195/click_to_display/1059957099/ident.gif?r=fp74vtx6q7js=true] On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakisdsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Well put. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritcheyritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Climate change is cause for concern. Government reaction is cause for fear. Just my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20111202/73f32155/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Roger Roger, what's the vector Victor? --R Have you got the clearance Clarence? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
No, I have a drinking problem. --R On 12/2/11 2:23 PM, Max wrote: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Roger Roger, what's the vector Victor? --R Have you got the clearance Clarence? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
What a mean father. --R On 12/2/11 12:11 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I don't remember much of it, not surprisingly. While my Dad was an executive VP for a major Midwestern bank at the time and could have easily cut a check for a new car for me, I was expected to go to school, make good grades, and work for any luxuries I might desire. Hence the string of VWs throughout my younger years Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. A.k.a. Hood Chicken, Hood Poultry, or Iranian National Bird? Those are the nicknames I remember. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rusty
A VW? --R On 12/2/11 11:08 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: What can you sell me VW 505.01 oil for? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
The gummit and the climate change/global warming/lets find a new way to tax our opponents gangs have for a while andrew strasfogel wrote: Here's some interesting news: *Number of Americans acknowledging global warming rises -- poll * So we now determine our scientific 'facts' based on popular opinion? Mitch. \ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
If he flew commercial I am sure he would be mobbed by well wishers. Just like Moochele was at Nascar! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
I certainly thought that at the time, but now I appreciate it. It's that good Midwestern work ethic. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What a mean father. --R On 12/2/11 12:11 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I don't remember much of it, not surprisingly. While my Dad was an executive VP for a major Midwestern bank at the time and could have easily cut a check for a new car for me, I was expected to go to school, make good grades, and work for any luxuries I might desire. Hence the string of VWs throughout my younger years Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. A.k.a. Hood Chicken, Hood Poultry, or Iranian National Bird? Those are the nicknames I remember. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
I'll take Ham on five and hold the Mayo Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 12/2/2011 2:23 PM, Max wrote: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Roger Roger, what's the vector Victor? --R Have you got the clearance Clarence? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
I am sitting at sonic waiting for my food in my sonic Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And I thought it was a really bad drive in restaurant Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That's the aveo that was built by daewoo the sonic is an all new vehicle built by gm Silly me. I thought Sonic was a hedgehog. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Rich, You are looking at this issue too logically and with too much rationale. Global warming is a personal issue like religion...some believe God is behind global warming because we humans are inherently sinners while others think the Devil is behind global warming just to scare us for fun. However, we all must remember that there are lies, damn lies, then statistics / polls surveys. And in the end it will be as the group Kansas said in their song all we are is dust in the wind. Personally, I think it's the magnetic fields changing, but then I could be wrong :-)) Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
Perhaps that is making our moral compasses go haywire! --R On 12/2/11 3:11 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Personally, I think it's the magnetic fields changing, but then I could be wrong :-)) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
On Nov 30, 2011 6:52 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: J C Whitney sells (or sold, when we did my brother's 75 300D) asphalt sound deadening material. It's still in use, so it's gotta be out there, if not in pre-cut versions. It stayed down, worked great. Google automotive sound deadening. There are many products that work just as well as asphalt and are much lighter. Do you really want to lower your power-to-weight ratio if you can help it? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a brand new car
Never seen a sonic. Just commercials. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I am sitting at sonic waiting for my food in my sonic Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And I thought it was a really bad drive in restaurant Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That's the aveo that was built by daewoo the sonic is an all new vehicle built by gm Silly me. I thought Sonic was a hedgehog. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
On 02/12/2011 2:29 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Nov 30, 2011 6:52 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net wrote: J C Whitney sells (or sold, when we did my brother's 75 300D) asphalt sound deadening material. It's still in use, so it's gotta be out there, if not in pre-cut versions. It stayed down, worked great. Google automotive sound deadening. There are many products that work just as well as asphalt and are much lighter. Do you really want to lower your power-to-weight ratio if you can help it? Alex ___ There is a sound deadening material that is sort of a gummy plasticy sheet material with foil on the one side. Peel the paper on the one side and stick it in place. Roll it down tight with a roller supplied along with the product if I recall correctly. Cannot recall exact name but my younger son literally covered as much of the inside of the 98 F150 pickup cab as he could. His effort was to improve the sound quality of his stereo. Not sure how that was supposed to work given he had 2 amps under the seat and 2 huge subwoofers behind the seat and tended to play god awful music. It did make the truck quieter when the stereo was turned off. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist photos
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:20:30 -0500 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I've never done that before. Is it complicated? Depends upon your perspective. The Gimp is your friend. http://www.gimp.org/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warmists and global warming
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:08:24 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I am absolutely certain that only a few years ago we were being told that another ice age was coming. As indeed we were. Incidentally, ice core records show we are about due for another one. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
On 02/12/2011 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one. One of my classmates and her older sister got a pair of late model used Firebirds, a blue one and a black one. Neither one had a Screaming Chicken on the hood, and I don't think either one was a Trans Am. I think their parents, and possibly the parents of the Mustang II girls,figured a small back seat was a good back seat. But, what about those nice high backed reclining bucket seats?? Randy Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
On 02/12/2011 9:19 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. A.k.a. Hood Chicken, Hood Poultry, or Iranian National Bird? Those are the nicknames I remember. -- Jim We called it a screaming chicken. Around here, they were popular with the Pilipino immigrant fellows. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rusty
My jetta tdi Bob R On Dec 2, 2011 12:31 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A VW? --R On 12/2/11 11:08 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: What can you sell me VW 505.01 oil for? Bob R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
On 02/12/2011 9:05 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the eagle on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one. Dan who drove VWs all through high school and never left a burning roach in the ashtray Sent from my iPhone There was a young lady named Janie back when I was in highschool who had her own VW bug. We heard rumours that the hand straps on the side pillars were useful to hold her ankles for certain purposes but cannot say if it was true. I had my own girlfriend at the time and never went out with Janie. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Janie and the VW Beetle
The other thing that I recall about that Beetle is that it made a great parade float. We went to a highschool in Kenora called Beaver Brae. There were then 2 highschools in Kenora and as a result quite a rivalry between them. Every fall there would be a football game between the schools and a pep rally parade through town. Janie and some friends painted the Beetle brown with flat water based paint and put a toothy grin on the hood and a big flat tail made out of cardboard also painted etc on the back bumper. It was a Beaver. Looked really cute. They did a good job of it and it all washed off afterwards. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber
A good set of high quality ear muffs is more effective. If you want to deaden diesel sound you need some of the new generation materials. Try speaking with someone who does high volume [ie BOOM BOOM BOOM] sound systems. Many use super sound deadening materials to reduce metal resonance of the car body panels to achieve pure quality rap music and hip hop tunes... Hey, money is no object when the drug money rolls in,,, right??? Anyway.. it's not cheap, but it's good. Self stick, cut to fit, impervious to water, beer, body fluids etc etc... you know,, all the stuff you get in a gansta ride Ya put it in and it's still in your ride when you get outta the big house, [if you ever get out]. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Nov 30, 2011 6:52 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: J C Whitney sells (or sold, when we did my brother's 75 300D) asphalt sound deadening material. It's still in use, so it's gotta be out there, if not in pre-cut versions. It stayed down, worked great. Google automotive sound deadening. There are many products that work just as well as asphalt and are much lighter. Do you really want to lower your power-to-weight ratio if you can help it? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Beaver Brae
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Re: [MBZ] Janie and the VW Beetle
I'm trying really hard to resist posting the other beaver beetle I have seen pictures of. You know, list decorum and all. --R On 12/2/11 5:08 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: The other thing that I recall about that Beetle is that it made a great parade float. We went to a highschool in Kenora called Beaver Brae. There were then 2 highschools in Kenora and as a result quite a rivalry between them. Every fall there would be a football game between the schools and a pep rally parade through town. Janie and some friends painted the Beetle brown with flat water based paint and put a toothy grin on the hood and a big flat tail made out of cardboard also painted etc on the back bumper. It was a Beaver. Looked really cute. They did a good job of it and it all washed off afterwards. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More OT - HWT
How can you tell it is Friday afternoon? I had a fun week. Monday about 6 PM we discovered our hot water tank had sprung a leak. No flood as it is in the basement and on a concrete floor about 2 feet from the sump pump pit. However, it was leaking quite badly so it had to be fixed. My wife and I went out Monday evening looking at new tanks but did not get one. We went to 3 places. The first did not have the one I wanted in stock. The 2nd did not appear to have what I wanted and by the time we got to the 3rd place, they were more interested in closing than selling. So, I went back Tuesday morning and got a tank and some of the other odds and ends needed to swap. We changed from a 40 US Gallon gas fired tank to a 60 Imp gallon electric tank. The major reason to change was the idea that we will put in a new efficient furnace in the near future and disposing of the gas HWT will permit us to also remove the chimney (gas vent) so the house should be tighter etc. However that sort of thing comes with a cost. I had to cap off the gas and the vent from the HWT to the main vent that the furnace uses. Just replaced the pipe where it had been attached rather than patching it. Since the new tank is physically larger - electric does not recycle quite as fast so bigger is needed to maintain the hot water capacity - the plumbing had to be moved etc. These things are bulky and heavy so it is not an easy job to do. I got the old one loose, the gas capped and the vent changed on Tuesday afternoon as well as running out to get more supplies. My younger son came by on his way home from work and we carried the old one out and the new one in. Not easy to set into the hole behind the furnace as the water meter and the laundry tub make for a small opening. Got it in without hurting ourselves. Empty it weighs about 185# according to the box. I figure at 61.5 imperial gallons it must weigh about 800# full of water. Wednesday, I worked on the plumbing. Changed over the water feed line as the new one fills at the bottom and the old one filled from the top. Also pulled the drain valve and installed a stub and a T etc and more valves and a check valve as I intend to hook up a thermal siphon to provide faster hot water in the 2nd floor bath. Also ran out to get wire etc to feed from the panel over to the tank. That is another story that I will touch on in a minute. Did not get the plumbing finished until about 9:30 Wednesday night. Then did the wiring and finally finished up about 11:30 Wednesday night. Let me tell you I am more used to sitting in a chair all day than working like this. I was dead tired and then stiff and sore yesterday. Today is better. The wire issue was something I stewed about for a bit. I have an oddball panel in the house. GE. So, it is somewhat difficult to come up with breakers. I had a spare set of 40 amp but not 25 or 30 which is what was called for. I thought I might just up the wire to #8 instead of #10 but that makes it much more difficult to work with. So after a bit of mucking about, an idea dawned on me. I just used the # 10 and borrowed the breakers for the AC as I will not need it in the near future. Long before spring I can get another pair of breakers. Menards in Grand Forks has them and I can get a set soon. My wife wonders why I do things like this myself instead of just calling someone in to do it. I might have done so if it meant just swapping a similar tank as that would have been fast and easy. If I have to stand there and watch the tradesman, I might as well be doing it. Besides, I do a better job as I care about my house. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Janie and the VW Beetle
Rich Thomas wrote: I'm trying really hard to resist posting the other beaver beetle I have seen pictures of. You know, list decorum and all. http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2006/11/beetle-pube.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Janie and the VW Beetle
Ah, yes, now that you mention it, I recall that one too. If I recall correctly, the young lady was an art student or some such and had a photo of a part of her own anatomy enlarged to poster size and applied to her car. I wonder what her father thought of that. There are times when I am thankful that I have no daughters. Randy - is this Banned??? On 02/12/2011 4:24 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I'm trying really hard to resist posting the other beaver beetle I have seen pictures of. You know, list decorum and all. --R On 12/2/11 5:08 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: The other thing that I recall about that Beetle is that it made a great parade float. We went to a highschool in Kenora called Beaver Brae. There were then 2 highschools in Kenora and as a result quite a rivalry between them. Every fall there would be a football game between the schools and a pep rally parade through town. Janie and some friends painted the Beetle brown with flat water based paint and put a toothy grin on the hood and a big flat tail made out of cardboard also painted etc on the back bumper. It was a Beaver. Looked really cute. They did a good job of it and it all washed off afterwards. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
You can run a 30A breaker box off the main panel -- run it off the 40A breaker you have (with #8 wire) then wire the WH right to the 30A-out in the box. Don't know about where you live, but code here requires a cutoff at the water heater electrical connection, so a small breaker box would do that well (as would just a big throw switch, but since you have the breaker issue...). The idea is that you can actually see the power is off before you fool with the heater. I had to replace my water heater right after I got hit by the truck while riding my bike. The thing died Sat night, after my ride Sunday morning I was going to Lowes to get a new one and put it in that afternoon. So instead I come home hurting like hell, to take a cold shower, ugh. I rested up the rest of the day and went and got the thing Mon morning after the doctor visit (and another cold shower), still hurting bad despite the drugs. Then the door in the closet was too small for the new higher-insulated unit to fit, so I had to tear out the door/framing to get a new door, reframe it all, put in the new door and trim Ended up being a 2-day job, Not Fun but the nice hot shower was very nice. --R On 12/2/11 5:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: The wire issue was something I stewed about for a bit. I have an oddball panel in the house. GE. So, it is somewhat difficult to come up with breakers. I had a spare set of 40 amp but not 25 or 30 which is what was called for. I thought I might just up the wire to #8 instead of #10 but that makes it much more difficult to work with. So after a bit of mucking about, an idea dawned on me. I just used the # 10 and borrowed the breakers for the AC as I will not need it in the near future. Long before spring I can get another pair of breakers. Menards in Grand Forks has them and I can get a set soon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Janie and the VW Beetle
Now we know who has decorum and who does not. --R On 12/2/11 5:36 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I'm trying really hard to resist posting the other beaver beetle I have seen pictures of. You know, list decorum and all. http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2006/11/beetle-pube.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Janie and the VW Beetle
Rich Thomas wrote: Now we know who has decorum and who does not. Well, you gotta click my link then another link to get the pubemobile. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Dave I did the safe boot d/l'd malwarebytes. I did the full scan and Zero items found. Any other ideas? Douglas -Original Message- From: Dave Walton Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) Boot into safe mode with networking, download the free version of malwarebytes, update it and run a full san. DO NOT download malwarebytes before booting into safe mode. -Dave Walton On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Douglas jgi...@comcast.net wrote: Rick I appreciate your help I have run both MS Essentials and AVG and both did not find anything. Yesterday MS Essentials found and removed 2 items. Douglas -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 4:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:27 AM, jgi...@comcast.net wrote: ..U will like it! I promise! It�s the best site ever! Your bug is back. It is probably a java script thing or someone stole your email password. I had one like that a while back. I will post what I did to fix it later this AM. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4652 - Release Date: 12/02/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bypass Chrysler servo?
The HVAC servo controls electrical, vacuum, and coolant flow functions. If the coolant flow valve isn't stuck (e.g. it only leak) you can bypass the servo coolant flow control and still use the servo for electrical and vacuum functions. My '79TD came this way with a manual shut-off valve in the coolant line. I lived in FL at the time so I left it off all the time but I suppose the PO opened the hood and manually set the valve as needed. Also, the older manual HVAC system used a manually operated valve (which may still be available) that was controlled by a push-pull cable that ran into the cabin. There is also a pricey (like $700) kit from Unwired Tools that replaced the servo completely but you have to be really committed to the car to spend that much. There were some articles on the servo some years back so I loaded them up on my site in case you want to read or download. Warning: the files are a couple megs each. http://kittrellcommunitywatch.dyndns.org/servo Many on this suite don't like George Murphy but he seems to be the expert on these servos. Maybe this helps. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:00 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] bypass Chrysler servo? I want to temporarily bypass the removed servo in my W116 so I can have some heat until I can either repair or replace it. I am planning to just plumb the heater core directly to the circulating pump (should act basically like the servo water valve is wide open) but do I need to jumper any of the electrical or vacuum connections to get the fan to run? Since defrost should be the failsafe I am thinking if I just plug all the ports on the vacuum connector and select the Defrost pushbutton on the console I should be able to get by with that? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] More OT - HWT How can you tell it is Friday afternoon? I had a fun week. Monday about 6 PM we discovered our hot water tank had sprung a leak. No flood as it is in the basement and on a concrete floor about 2 feet from the sump pump pit. However, it was leaking quite badly so it had to be fixed. My wife and I went out Monday evening looking at new tanks but did not get one. We went to 3 places. The first did not have the one I wanted in stock. The 2nd did not appear to have what I wanted and by the time we got to the 3rd place, they were more interested in closing than selling. So, I went back Tuesday morning and got a tank and some of the other odds and ends needed to swap. We changed from a 40 US Gallon gas fired tank to a 60 Imp gallon electric tank. The major reason to change was the idea that we will put in a new efficient furnace in the near future and disposing of the gas HWT will permit us to also remove the chimney (gas vent) so the house should be tighter etc. However that sort of thing comes with a cost. I had to cap off the gas and the vent from the HWT to the main vent that the furnace uses. Just replaced the pipe where it had been attached rather than patching it. Since the new tank is physically larger - electric does not recycle quite as fast so bigger is needed to maintain the hot water capacity - the plumbing had to be moved etc. These things are bulky and heavy so it is not an easy job to do. I got the old one loose, the gas capped and the vent changed on Tuesday afternoon as well as running out to get more supplies. My younger son came by on his way home from work and we carried the old one out and the new one in. Not easy to set into the hole behind the furnace as the water meter and the laundry tub make for a small opening. Got it in without hurting ourselves. Empty it weighs about 185# according to the box. I figure at 61.5 imperial gallons it must weigh about 800# full of water. Wednesday, I worked on the plumbing. Changed over the water feed line as the new one fills at the bottom and the old one filled from the top. Also pulled the drain valve and installed a stub and a T etc and more valves and a check valve as I intend to hook up a thermal siphon to provide faster hot water in the 2nd floor bath. Also ran out to get wire etc to feed from the panel over to the tank. That is another story that I will touch on in a minute. Did not get the plumbing finished until about 9:30 Wednesday night. Then did the wiring and finally finished up about 11:30 Wednesday night. Let me tell you I am more used to sitting in a chair all day than working like this. I was dead tired and then stiff and sore yesterday. Today is better. The wire issue was something I stewed about for a bit. I have an oddball panel in the house. GE. So, it is somewhat difficult to come up with breakers. I had a spare set of 40 amp but not 25 or 30 which is what was called for. I thought I might just up the wire to #8 instead of #10 but that makes it much more difficult to work with. So after a bit of mucking about, an idea dawned on me. I just used the # 10 and borrowed the breakers for the AC as I will not need it in the near future. Long before spring I can get another pair of breakers. Menards in Grand Forks has them and I can get a set soon. My wife wonders why I do things like this myself instead of just calling someone in to do it. I might have done so if it meant just swapping a similar tank as that would have been fast and easy. If I have to stand there and watch the tradesman, I might as well be doing it. Besides, I do a better job as I care about my house. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
