Re: [MBZ] Der Fűhrerwagen
On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Also I am wondering what the difference is between a GI taking a car that may well have belonged to the NAZI party and a civilised nation taking every patent they can lay their hands from a nation they helped defeat? You mean the Chinese stealing US patents? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Yes! Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I guess I should start off with the easier stuff- citric acid flush, coolant change, new radiator cap and t-stat. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pimp the S124
Where are those barf bags when I need 'em? Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] Pimp the S124 http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-W124-E320-Mopf-Umbau-auf-560-V8-300PS-Perlmuttweis-Ansehen-/221062308383?pt=Automobilehash=item337857221f Hendrik who has a bog stock S124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Poli-ticks
All well made points, for which I thank you.
Just a few further thoughts, stimulated by yours.
1. If you are not popular, you won't get RE-elected.
[My position is, being re-elected should NEVER be a consideration, and the
individual should serve his country then return to regular business.]
2. Responsibility is the venue of leadership. Blame is the venue of
weakness, both by the person making blame, and the person taking blame. We
as a country have sunk into the blame game with a severe lack of
responsibility for actions. ie. I'm the leader, I take responsibility for
my actions and will hold all those under me responsible for theirs. As a
society, we have lost the meaning of being responsible and become
proficient at pushing blame ie. ''my mother didn't love me so I became
a serial murderer, it's not my fault .
{Again RE-election should never be a consideration... why, if we are an
intelligent society, would we re-elect a person who never takes
responsibility for his own decisions and actions but instead passes the
buck to others through blame?]
3. Once properly elected, the position then held properly resides the
sufficient power to execute the duties of that office. As a society,
currently, we have come to believe the only way to rule is through
compromise. I respectfully submit, this is why we are in the mess we are
currently in. Through successive compromise we have eroded the very
principles which made us the most desired country to live in the world.
I believe is was Dr. Porsche who said Committees discuss problems,
Individuals made decisions.We elect Individuals to office to lead and
be responsible for that leadership. Anything less is well.. less than
we paid for.
It is my observation the true problems we are having are not that we have
weak leaders who only focus on their need for RE-election, but that we have
become weak people who vote for those weak leaders and accept their poor
blame game reasoning and lack of responsible action. As Citizens, we have
a developed fault in our critical logic path that says we must re-elect
the professional politician. I believe this is a deadly error which has
been repeated through history.
Civilization is only one generation deep. If we fail to pass it to our
children, they must start from anarchy and regain it once again in a few
centuries [Quote: My Grandmother]
Respectfully,
Grant
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
BUT:
1. If you are not popular, you won't get elected.
2. If you take the blame, you won't get re-elected.
3. If you get elected, you have to keep enough people happy to get some
work done.
Etc.
There is a difference between theory and reality and often it is
unfortunately one of the reasons why good leaders do not want to run for
office.
Randy
On 09/07/2012 2:55 PM, G Mann wrote:
Thank you,
I have some views on this issue.
1. Leadership is not a popularity contest.
2. A leader does not take or give blame, he takes responsibility and holds
others responsible for their actions.
3. A leaders duty is not to make everyone happy but to support and
defend
the Constitution and the USA from all enemies, foreign and domestic,
pursuant to his oath of office. Not to skirt that Constitution with crafty
Executive Orders that function only under the color of law.
4, A leaders duty is to make decisions for the Country that continue the
principles and ideals upon which it was founded, and have made it the
richest most successful Country in the recorded history of the world.
5. A leaders duty is to provide good stewardship of the physical,
financial, and ideological resources of the Country, not just within his
term of office but for far into the future. Further, to pass that mantel
of
responsibility on to the next leader in such a form that it will be
continued, thus preserving and enhancing the richness of the Citizens.
I have seen, in my lifetime, these guiding principles be outright ignored
and pushed aside. We no longer elect the best man for the job... only
the least worse of those running... at best.
It is my considered opinion we will continue of this downward spiral until
We the People [who actually own this country] set firm term limits and
place on every ballot the voting space labeled NONE OF THE ABOVE... if
None of the Above wins.. those who ran should then be excluded from ever
running again for office. The Government will not immediately collapse
while we hold a fresh election.
We have over 300,000,000 people to choose as our elected representatives
for public office in this Republic... time to tap into that much larger
breeding pool and get some real people, not professional politicians.
Respectfully, to all with other viewpoints,
Grant...
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
wrote:
It truly is a sad situation.
Voting someone out requires that we vote someone else in.
Re: [MBZ] Pimp the S124
If you want one of those there is one for sale at a marginal lot down the road towards Ravenel, silver with chrome dubs and some kind of black checkerboard appliques all over it. You could probably get it for cheepcheep, given the, uh, neighborhood demographics. --R On 7/9/12 11:15 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-W124-E320-Mopf-Umbau-auf-560-V8-300PS-Perlmuttweis-Ansehen-/221062308383?pt=Automobilehash=item337857221f Hendrik who has a bog stock S124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby
To big to fix is always trumped by elimination. Followed by a clean sheet fresh start. ¿No` On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Hmmm. Is there such a thing as too big to fix? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby Thank you, all points well made. The health care system has gotten out of hand. There are minds great enough to find viable solutions, where are they? Why are they not being heard? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare
On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry I have to say I am more or less neutral on Lexus. Don't want one. Don't really care one way ot t'oher. I think what irks me about Prius and Camry is the people who tend to buy them. They are smug and convinced they did the right thing because of what something like Consumer Reports told them. Especially with the Camry. Boring but solid is what they seek. At one time it might have been reasonably true but recent events have shaken that a bit haven't they? I have almost run over a Prius or two as the driver's are so intent upon not having the engine kick in that they will drive them at 2 mph. More on the Prius. I never wanted one but I am becoming more interested. I have some clients who drive taxicabs. They use Prius and say the cars are bullet proof. I am told that they put high mileage on them and they literally need nothing. Combine that with pretty good acceleration and mileage and they would no doubt make a good city car. I don't think I want to do long highway trips on one but from home to my office is maybe a mile and a half or two and it would be fine for that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare
Couldn't you lump Honda Civics in with the Camrys? They are just as endemic... Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry I have to say I am more or less neutral on Lexus. Don't want one. Don't really care one way ot t'oher. I think what irks me about Prius and Camry is the people who tend to buy them. They are smug and convinced they did the right thing because of what something like Consumer Reports told them. Especially with the Camry. Boring but solid is what they seek. At one time it might have been reasonably true but recent events have shaken that a bit haven't they? I have almost run over a Prius or two as the driver's are so intent upon not having the engine kick in that they will drive them at 2 mph. More on the Prius. I never wanted one but I am becoming more interested. I have some clients who drive taxicabs. They use Prius and say the cars are bullet proof. I am told that they put high mileage on them and they literally need nothing. Combine that with pretty good acceleration and mileage and they would no doubt make a good city car. I don't think I want to do long highway trips on one but from home to my office is maybe a mile and a half or two and it would be fine for that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare
I'm not a fan of any Japanese or Korean cars but Toyota takes the cake. After their recent safety issues and subsequent attempted denial and cover-up of these issues I'm really turned off. The whole Lexus copycating MB and BMW styling and then surpassing MB in sales really angers me. Honda generally does their own thing and makes a generally more attractive car. Not much antipathy towards Honda. Hyundai, however has downright blatantly stolen BMW and Mercedes styling cues with the Genesis. Front looks like a Benz, rear looks like a BMW. Why don't those losers get some creativity and stop stealing other marques' designs with the intention of competing in the same market segment? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Couldn't you lump Honda Civics in with the Camrys? They are just as endemic... Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry I have to say I am more or less neutral on Lexus. Don't want one. Don't really care one way ot t'oher. I think what irks me about Prius and Camry is the people who tend to buy them. They are smug and convinced they did the right thing because of what something like Consumer Reports told them. Especially with the Camry. Boring but solid is what they seek. At one time it might have been reasonably true but recent events have shaken that a bit haven't they? I have almost run over a Prius or two as the driver's are so intent upon not having the engine kick in that they will drive them at 2 mph. More on the Prius. I never wanted one but I am becoming more interested. I have some clients who drive taxicabs. They use Prius and say the cars are bullet proof. I am told that they put high mileage on them and they literally need nothing. Combine that with pretty good acceleration and mileage and they would no doubt make a good city car. I don't think I want to do long highway trips on one but from home to my office is maybe a mile and a half or two and it would be fine for that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare
Points well taken, but if I understand correctly (and if I don't I am sure someone will take me to task) hasn't Hyundai done rather well in the owner satisfaction category? Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not a fan of any Japanese or Korean cars but Toyota takes the cake. After their recent safety issues and subsequent attempted denial and cover-up of these issues I'm really turned off. The whole Lexus copycating MB and BMW styling and then surpassing MB in sales really angers me. Honda generally does their own thing and makes a generally more attractive car. Not much antipathy towards Honda. Hyundai, however has downright blatantly stolen BMW and Mercedes styling cues with the Genesis. Front looks like a Benz, rear looks like a BMW. Why don't those losers get some creativity and stop stealing other marques' designs with the intention of competing in the same market segment? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Couldn't you lump Honda Civics in with the Camrys? They are just as endemic... Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry I have to say I am more or less neutral on Lexus. Don't want one. Don't really care one way ot t'oher. I think what irks me about Prius and Camry is the people who tend to buy them. They are smug and convinced they did the right thing because of what something like Consumer Reports told them. Especially with the Camry. Boring but solid is what they seek. At one time it might have been reasonably true but recent events have shaken that a bit haven't they? I have almost run over a Prius or two as the driver's are so intent upon not having the engine kick in that they will drive them at 2 mph. More on the Prius. I never wanted one but I am becoming more interested. I have some clients who drive taxicabs. They use Prius and say the cars are bullet proof. I am told that they put high mileage on them and they literally need nothing. Combine that with pretty good acceleration and mileage and they would no doubt make a good city car. I don't think I want to do long highway trips on one but from home to my office is maybe a mile and a half or two and it would be fine for that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel purge leftover
You've got multiple cars so this one can be down for a little while right? I'd probably go ahead and have the injectors redone (cleaned and adjusted). Call around there must be somewhere in the metropolis that can do it. That way at least your injectors are a known quantity. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 19:28:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel purge leftover Message-ID: 1341887304.74577.yext-apple-iph...@web125104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So how does one determine if it's the pump vs the injectors? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm wondering about the fuel pump. I had a GMC once that started and drove good but shuddered at takeoff. New fuel pump cured it. I also did a purge last weekend. I did 2 cans with 20 minute rest in the middle to dissolve any crud. Didn't get much back in the bottle, turned it slightly darker but not seriously and no floating crud. The car does idle slightly smoother now and gives a much smaller puff of smoke on startup. The biggest improvement was probably changing the fuel filters. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
I would simply change the antifreeze to MB GENUINE antifreeze, and the thermostat. Flush with clean water if you must. See if that helps, and if not, change the fan clutch, which causes overheating at highway speeds when it's worn. . On 7/10/12, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes! Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I guess I should start off with the easier stuff- citric acid flush, coolant change, new radiator cap and t-stat. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
So how do I diagnose a worn fan clutch? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:53 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I would simply change the antifreeze to MB GENUINE antifreeze, and the thermostat. Flush with clean water if you must. See if that helps, and if not, change the fan clutch, which causes overheating at highway speeds when it's worn. . On 7/10/12, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes! Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I guess I should start off with the easier stuff- citric acid flush, coolant change, new radiator cap and t-stat. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Speed trap
Roger will enjoy this anecdote www.extremefunnyhumor.com/picture.php?id=1283/ clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby
Two benjamins for a co-pay. Sign up to be an agent with the local social services agency and get the obamacare certification. Collection of premiums is simple. All establishments purveying social ills will scan your obamacare card when you purchase said items and tally them at the end of the month. Send the data file to the Agency. Each user will have his data collated and tabulated. The total is then invoiced to the federal, state and local welfare offices. The funds are deducted from any tax payer funded entitlements. If a negative balance is achieved, the user is recalled and fitted with an embedded spinal cord rfid tracker, shipped to an infrastructure labor site and provides for the greater good until his debt is erased. clay On Jul 8, 2012, at 10:31 PM, G Mann wrote: Hahahaha... so what's the co-pay for the smokes, hookers, meth twinkie plan. How do you get to be an insurance agent for the Darwinian Agency? Seems payment collection could pose a problem. ;)) On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: H. I think Darwinian health care is what is needed. If you make the choices that lead to poor health, you get to be on Darwin Insurance. You must pay an amount equal to the money spent on those activities that are impacting your health. Smokes, slurpees, twinkies, candy bars, hookers, meth, video gaming. That is bound to add up over time. On Jul 8, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Allan Streib wrote: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com writes: I offer the idea that we educate children to care for themselves and others with basic first aid and perhaps advanced care. When I was age 4 a dog bit my ear off... my Grandmother sewed it back on, with nothing but grit and skill [she was a great seamstress btw.] She had raised 11 children at a time when you took care of your own, the country doctor was as good as it got, and people stood on their own two feet. I do think a big part of the problem is people not wanting to take ANY responsibility for their own health. You get people 300+ lbs, diabetic, hypertensive, show up at the ER once a week with some complaint (with a stop at the 7-11 on the way for cigs, a 64 oz soda and a candy bar), and expect a shot or a pill to make it all better and when it doesn't happen they thing they've been wronged somehow. Or maybe they need surgery but they are in such poor health otherwise that recovery is full of complications... again they don't want to hear that any of it might be on them. On top of all that they aren't paying for anything themselves thanks to medicaid. This kind of stuff sapps a ton of resources out of the medical system, I'm sure. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: mail clients
Brian Toscano wrote: You can also store messages locally using IMAP. Sure, you _can_. But why use a protocol designed around remote manipulation of email and then press it into retrieval service doing what POP3 is designed to do? And Gmail supports POP3. For free. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: mail clients
I started using MS Outlook about 9 years ago because Outlook let me consolidate mail from multiple POP and IMAP accounts on one client and one set of saved email files. At the time I worked as a consultant part time for SAIC and Outlook 2003 also let me access my SAIC mail securely using a HTTPS protocol (SAIC would not allow unsecure access). Also, back when I traveled frequently, Outlook jet me easily burn all saved mail (pst files) to a data stick or CD so I could easily move them to my notebook PC for the trip and back to the desktop after returning. Some of those concerns no longer apply but I haven't had a reason to switch to anything else. Having said that, I frequently access my AOL mail via web mail while watching TV and save anything offline later. On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 22:01:28 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering how many people prefer to use a Webmail program like Gmail or Yahoo vs using IMAP to download mail into a program that runs on a local computer, like Apples Mail program? I use Sylpheed on my local computer, downloading email via POP3. My old emails and address books are not on someone else's server, waiting for someone to break in and cause havoc (like a friend had happen recently). They are backed up locally so I won't loose them (like the friend did). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hitler's ride
If all the old MBs that have been claimed to be Adolf's were in fact his, he wouldn't have had time to do anything but ride ride ride... People lie and the suckers eat it up. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHMSL
...First MODEL year, yes. Hence why I said it was big news in '85... Nice save. Remember those awful cheapo lights glued on the rear deck of the SLs? And then the lights on the 911 that were on a stalk so as to rise above the rear spoiler. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Expensive, very
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Re: [MBZ] Expensive, very
Heh. Those Porsches burn just like the Beetles did. Nothing like a block of magnesium to get things going... Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 5:11 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics2012jul09/index.shtml RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHMSL
On Jul 10, 2012 1:56 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: And then the lights on the 911 that were on a stalk so as to rise above the rear spoiler. They always reminded me of the flying saucers from The War of the Worlds. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Thieves Exploiting Vulnerability in On-Board Diagnostic System to Steal BMWs
Thieves have figured out a way to steal BMWs with keyless entry technology. They are able to bypass alarm systems. It is believed that the thieves are gaining access to the cars' On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) system to program new key fobs. The vehicles' OBD ports are constantly powered, even when the vehicles are off, and they do not require passwords. http://www.zdnet.com/hackers-steal-keyless-bmw-in-under-3-minutes-video-700507/ http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/hackers-steal-bmws-3-minutes-using-security-loophole-868400 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190d
On 09/07/2012 8:33 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: That means you left money on the table. On the other hand cash in hand is often better than cash on some theoretical table that may never actually materialize. I am trying to convince a fellow that cash now is better than maybe more cash later too. He has a boat that I am interested in but only if I get it cheap enough. I like the boat but the condition is not good enough to gamble much more than I have already offered him. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. Besides which a fan clutch disengages the fan on the highway. At anything over walking speed the fan can't begin to move as much air as ram air from moving does. My '85 190D never had a working fan clutch during my ownership of the car. The temp would creep up if it sat while running but would go back down as soon as I got moving or turned the heat on. I do agree with your initial proposed steps although I would probably clean and flush (citric acid I mean) if I were going to flush anyway. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:53:37 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Message-ID: CAC35L=vWp=enfm3n8tenoftwnmkan1ca9qs10mybdhfp6i0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would simply change the antifreeze to MB GENUINE antifreeze, and the thermostat. Flush with clean water if you must. See if that helps, and if not, change the fan clutch, which causes overheating at highway speeds when it's worn. . On 7/10/12, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes! Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I guess I should start off with the easier stuff- citric acid flush, coolant change, new radiator cap and t-stat. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Expensive, very
One night about 10PM we were coming back to Houston on I-10 from the west, somewhere between Katy and Houston I saw a yellow Lambo packed into the jersey barriers in the middle of the road. Looked like he lost control, spun, and stuffed it in the rear. Two guys were standing there next to it, waiting for a tow I guess. ouch. I laughed. --R On 7/10/12 5:11 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics2012jul09/index.shtml RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 500E wheels
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: The rims currently on our '95 E320 are 210 204 06 02 7-1/2 J x 16 H2 ET 41 Got the numbers off the sets i have in storage finally for comparison: the forged CLK rims that look sort of like polished bundts are 7x16 ET 37, and the factory 500E rims are 8x16 ET 36. I think the first would be fine on either of your post-facelift 124s, but I don't know about the second. That's both a wider wheel and a deeper offset. On the other hand, you're already running those wider non-stock 210 wheels, so if those seem to fit with room to spare maybe the 500E ones would too. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
The subject car is a 240D but yes I do have a 220D which has been sitting for six years now:( Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. Besides which a fan clutch disengages the fan on the highway. At anything over walking speed the fan can't begin to move as much air as ram air from moving does. My '85 190D never had a working fan clutch during my ownership of the car. The temp would creep up if it sat while running but would go back down as soon as I got moving or turned the heat on. I do agree with your initial proposed steps although I would probably clean and flush (citric acid I mean) if I were going to flush anyway. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:53:37 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Message-ID: CAC35L=vWp=enfm3n8tenoftwnmkan1ca9qs10mybdhfp6i0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would simply change the antifreeze to MB GENUINE antifreeze, and the thermostat. Flush with clean water if you must. See if that helps, and if not, change the fan clutch, which causes overheating at highway speeds when it's worn. . On 7/10/12, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes! Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I guess I should start off with the easier stuff- citric acid flush, coolant change, new radiator cap and t-stat. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anecdote, invisible
...www.extremefunnyhumor.com/picture.php?id=1283/.. The blank page pretty well describes my day. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mag nicht
..Heh. Those Porsches burn just like the Beetles did. Nothing like a block of magnesium to get things going... Uh well, Porsche hasn't made magnesium engine cases since the '70s. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel purge leftover
On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd probably go ahead and have the injectors redone (cleaned and adjusted). Call around there must be somewhere in the metropolis that can do it. http://www.jgparks.com/ Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mag nicht
I know. However, the picture of the burning Porsche likened back to the days of the awesome Beetle engine compartment fires. Stand back and watch it burn, baby! Ain't nothin' gonna put that out Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 8:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ..Heh. Those Porsches burn just like the Beetles did. Nothing like a block of magnesium to get things going... Uh well, Porsche hasn't made magnesium engine cases since the '70s. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mag nicht
Yes and as a volunteer firefighter, we used to put just a little water on them to make them burn brighter. Always a welcome emergency call. Dwight On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I know. However, the picture of the burning Porsche likened back to the days of the awesome Beetle engine compartment fires. Stand back and watch it burn, baby! Ain't nothin' gonna put that out Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 8:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ..Heh. Those Porsches burn just like the Beetles did. Nothing like a block of magnesium to get things going... Uh well, Porsche hasn't made magnesium engine cases since the '70s. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mag nicht
Reminds me of high school chemistry class when my teacher purposely paired me with an idiot jock. I bet Mr. Muscle head that if he lit this ribbon of metal it would burn. Thank goodness we were near a sink when he did it. My teacher just rolled his eyes and let it go. I had a new lab partner the next day. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:54 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes and as a volunteer firefighter, we used to put just a little water on them to make them burn brighter. Always a welcome emergency call. Dwight On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I know. However, the picture of the burning Porsche likened back to the days of the awesome Beetle engine compartment fires. Stand back and watch it burn, baby! Ain't nothin' gonna put that out Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 8:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ..Heh. Those Porsches burn just like the Beetles did. Nothing like a block of magnesium to get things going... Uh well, Porsche hasn't made magnesium engine cases since the '70s. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 FWIW, every MB that I've bought that overheated had green coolant, and no amount of cleaning, flushing, etc. cured them. The only thing that did was replacing the radiators. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 FWIW, every MB that I've bought that overheated had green coolant, and no amount of cleaning, flushing, etc. cured them. The only thing that did was replacing the radiators. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. August Marshall Booth is rolling over about now... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. Mine's not! It's G05, with dye in it. (I was chasing a leak.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
