Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good

2012-08-05 Thread Hans Neureiter
Front and rear seats look way different.

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 3:26 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Leather?  Really?  'Looks just like the MB TEX in my '80 240D, '81 300D
 and '87 300D.

 Wilton

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 I'm highly tempted to buy this

 http://austin.craigslist.org/**cto/3183404711.htmlhttp://austin.craigslist.org/cto/3183404711.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good

2012-08-05 Thread Dieselhead

Front and rear seats look way different.

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 3:26 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 Leather?  Really?  'Looks just like the MB TEX in my '80 240D, '81 300D
 and '87 300D.


  Wilton
 


Hans is right.  Rear seat is definitely MBtex.  The fronts do not 
look like MBtex.  Maybe vinyl, maybe leather, but who knows


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Re: [MBZ] 124 300D electric fan control

2012-08-05 Thread OK Don
When you have time to spare, go by air.

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Relay is with the rest behind the fuses, i think there are two relays, one
 for low speed, devoid for high speed.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD

 Diesel Head 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am headed out to try that. Any idea where the relay is? I hope that
 shorting those together will make the fan run. If not I will try powering
 the resistor Black/white. If that does not work, I will hunt for the
 relay.


 Well, I didn't have time this morning to test anything more.  Had to catch
 a plane, SWMBO went on with the car.  She got there with no problem.  She
 travelled roughly the same distance with the car in less time.  Roughly 650
 miles.

 I spent a (not so) lovely day in ORD waiting for the second flight. Gate
 changes, plane changes.  Had one gate/plane ready, then for some
 inexplicable reason, they sent that hardware and crew to ottawa, ca. THen a
 storm was closing in.

 So, for less than 1000 miles, I still contend that a MB Diesel is faster
 than flying.  (unless you get a direct flight.)

 Like when I was commuting, it took me 5 hours to get end to end, for a 30
 min flight.


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Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good

2012-08-05 Thread WILTON
The 26-year-old tex in my 124 is in better condition that the 22-years-old 
leather in my 126.  The leather's not in BAD condition, though - just not as 
good as the tex.


Wilton

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It's a Mercedes, one of the finest luxury cars available, so it must be 
LEATHER.  Having had both, I prefer Tex in these old Mercedes.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon.

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Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good

2012-08-05 Thread Dan Penoff
I have had MBs with Tex, leather and cloth.  I would rate them from good to bad 
in that order.  MBTex is pretty much bulletproof and easy to recover if 
damaged.  Leather, no matter how well it's cared for, does not age well.  I 
have seen many a really nice exterior with leather than is crap.  It really 
detracts from the car, and without a lot of time and expense, it's tough to 
bring back.  Cloth?  Forget it.  It wears poorly and can't be repaired, only 
replaced.

I know when I see an ad for an MB that has MBTex and the seller describes it as 
leather that they are not an MB person

Dan


On Aug 5, 2012, at 11:01 AM, WILTON wrote:

 The 26-year-old tex in my 124 is in better condition that the 22-years-old 
 leather in my 126.  The leather's not in BAD condition, though - just not as 
 good as the tex.
 
 Wilton
 
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Re: [MBZ] Color match spay cans

2012-08-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Ditto - they are great!

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:00 PM,  aland...@knology.net wrote:
 I have had good results from http://www.paintscratch.com/.  Color always 
 matches and is good quailty.

 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN



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Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good

2012-08-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes but MB person or not it's pretty obvious that it's not leather. If they 
would open their eyes or just feel it they should know. These are people that 
are clueless and lack any sensitivities.

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On Aug 5, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have had MBs with Tex, leather and cloth.  I would rate them from good to bad 
in that order.  MBTex is pretty much bulletproof and easy to recover if 
damaged.  Leather, no matter how well it's cared for, does not age well.  I 
have seen many a really nice exterior with leather than is crap.  It really 
detracts from the car, and without a lot of time and expense, it's tough to 
bring back.  Cloth?  Forget it.  It wears poorly and can't be repaired, only 
replaced.

I know when I see an ad for an MB that has MBTex and the seller describes it as 
leather that they are not an MB person

Dan


On Aug 5, 2012, at 11:01 AM, WILTON wrote:

The 26-year-old tex in my 124 is in better condition that the 22-years-old 
leather in my 126.  The leather's not in BAD condition, though - just not as 
good as the tex.

Wilton

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[MBZ] CL Idiot not your daddys 380 450 500

2012-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas

Nice paint job

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3115851496.html

--R

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[MBZ] Rear Suspension repair 91 300D 2.5T

2012-08-05 Thread Larry T

Howdy -
When replacing the rear brake pads I noticed there is rust where 
the forward rear link attaches to the body.If facing the pass. rear 
brake assy the link would be approx. 3 o'clock  with one end attaching 
to the rear axle and the other to the body.   It looks like there was a 
box with the link attached to one side of the box.   The side of the box 
attached to the link is still holding and actually looks really good - 
but one side of the box has rusted away (I think) - I am assuming the 
box was closed at one time.   It seems like a design meant to catch mud 
and rust - something MB doesn't usually do - so I'm wondering if the box 
was ever closed as the rest of the metal looks pretty good.


I checked MB EPC looking for a repair part but did not see one.   
Does anyone recall if the link attaching point is a closed box?   
Haven't been able to find a good image yet...


Time to search the WSM pdf's.

Thx ya''ll,
LarryT
91 300D
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[MBZ] Really nice 300CD

2012-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3180945082.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] CL Idiot not your daddys 380 450 500

2012-08-05 Thread G Mann
Last seen by a dealers authorized mechanic on the day it was sold. Paint
given special care daily. Always parked in the shade under a tree. Only
driven at night in pursuit of business. Slight tear in seat from normal
sidearm wear. Extra storage built into upholstery for money and
product. No offer refused, need bail money now.
;),, sorry.. just couldn't resist

Actually, with a few thousand dollars in a total frame off restoration, it
might be someones dream 

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Nice paint job

 http://charleston.craigslist.**org/cto/3115851496.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3115851496.html

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Rear Suspension repair 91 300D 2.5T

2012-08-05 Thread Frederick Moir
Larry.
On my 201 there are two tabs joined by a plate across the inner side, for side 
loads supposedly.
As I understand it, the 201 and 124 share a lot of suspension parts.
YMMV
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 1:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rear Suspension repair 91 300D 2.5T
 
Howdy -
    When replacing the rear brake pads I noticed there is rust where the 
forward rear link attaches to the body.    If facing the pass. rear brake assy 
the link would be approx. 3 o'clock  with one end attaching to the rear axle 
and the other to the body.   It looks like there was a box with the link 
attached to one side of the box.   The side of the box attached to the link is 
still holding and actually looks really good - but one side of the box has 
rusted away (I think) - I am assuming the box was closed at one time.   It 
seems like a design meant to catch mud and rust - something MB doesn't usually 
do - so I'm wondering if the box was ever closed as the rest of the metal 
looks pretty good.

    I checked MB EPC looking for a repair part but did not see one.   Does 
anyone recall if the link attaching point is a closed box?   Haven't been able 
to find a good image yet...

    Time to search the WSM pdf's.

Thx ya''ll,
LarryT
91 300D

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[MBZ] Cheap 560SEL in Rusty's hood

2012-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Maybe he can source a wheel bolt for that one that is missing on the RR 
wheel.  (Why do you think they chose that one to take a pic of?)


http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/3162490410.html

--R

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[MBZ] Must be that ULTRA-RARE ZUNDFOGEL engine?

2012-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas

Push Engine Stop Button Under Hood to Turn Off Engine

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3161856209.html

--R
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[MBZ] Regions Auto Parts Tampa, FL

2012-08-05 Thread G. M. Brown

In searching for a supplier of a used 617.952 engine for the one which went 
south in my '85 300TD, thank goodness I did an I-net search on the Regions Auto 
Parts Tampa, FL folks as there are numerous ripoff/scams reported on these 
folks at ripoffreport.com (http://www.ripoffreport.com/ ) as the information 
they had provided me sounded too good to be true which raised my warning flag.  
There's a very similar negative report there to the information I had obtained 
from the Regions Auto Parts folks thus far, so WATCH OUT for these folks all 
M-B folks!
 
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC   
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Re: [MBZ] Regions Auto Parts Tampa, FL

2012-08-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Did you check car-part.com? I just did and a ton of them pulled up.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 2:05 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 In searching for a supplier of a used 617.952 engine for the one which went 
 south in my '85 300TD, thank goodness I did an I-net search on the Regions 
 Auto Parts Tampa, FL folks as there are numerous ripoff/scams reported on 
 these folks at ripoffreport.com (http://www.ripoffreport.com/ ) as the 
 information they had provided me sounded too good to be true which raised my 
 warning flag.  There's a very similar negative report there to the 
 information I had obtained from the Regions Auto Parts folks thus far, so 
 WATCH OUT for these folks all M-B folks!
 
 G. M. Brown
 Brevard, NC 
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Re: [MBZ] Regions Auto Parts Tampa, FL

2012-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas
There was a cheap diesel on CL here in Charleston, you could probably 
get one cheap and part out some other bits or just junk it for scrap if 
you just wanted the engine.  I would check CL for cars like that, you 
could put your TD head on the engine and be good with the susp pump.


--R
On 8/5/12 3:05 PM, G. M. Brown wrote:

In searching for a supplier of a used 617.952 engine for the one which went 
south in my '85 300TD, thank goodness I did an I-net search on the Regions Auto 
Parts Tampa, FL folks as there are numerous ripoff/scams reported on these 
folks at ripoffreport.com (http://www.ripoffreport.com/ ) as the information 
they had provided me sounded too good to be true which raised my warning flag.  
There's a very similar negative report there to the information I had obtained 
from the Regions Auto Parts folks thus far, so WATCH OUT for these folks all 
M-B folks!
  
G. M. Brown

Brevard, NC 
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Re: [MBZ] Regions Auto Parts Tampa, FL

2012-08-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Good suggestion, Rich.  Locating a complete car that has a decent donor engine 
will probably cost not a whole lot more than the engine itself, and you'll have 
all those spares you can strip off the donor car, too.

Dan


On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 There was a cheap diesel on CL here in Charleston, you could probably get one 
 cheap and part out some other bits or just junk it for scrap if you just 
 wanted the engine.  I would check CL for cars like that, you could put your 
 TD head on the engine and be good with the susp pump.
 
 --R


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Re: [MBZ] Regions Auto Parts Tampa, FL

2012-08-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Interesting.  I just looked at where they are located, and it's not that far 
from my house.

6116 Chancey Road
Tampa, FL. 33619

Interesting to note that if you look at their place on Google Maps in satellite 
view, there is little or nothing to indicate that they are an auto parts 
recycler.  No sign of lots of junk cars at the placelooks like they are 
just brokering stuff, maybe?

Dan


On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:05 PM, G. M. Brown wrote:

 
 In searching for a supplier of a used 617.952 engine for the one which went 
 south in my '85 300TD, thank goodness I did an I-net search on the Regions 
 Auto Parts Tampa, FL folks as there are numerous ripoff/scams reported on 
 these folks at ripoffreport.com (http://www.ripoffreport.com/ ) as the 
 information they had provided me sounded too good to be true which raised my 
 warning flag.  There's a very similar negative report there to the 
 information I had obtained from the Regions Auto Parts folks thus far, so 
 WATCH OUT for these folks all M-B folks!
 
 G. M. Brown
 Brevard, NC 
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[MBZ] W116 water leak

2012-08-05 Thread Allan Streib
Trying to work out where water is getting in on the drivers side of my
300SD.  I have pulled all the carpet and underlayment out on the
driver's side, and following the rust trails it looks like it's entering
near where the parking brake mechanism attaches to the firewall.  Anyone
had the same thing?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] W116 water leak

2012-08-05 Thread Peter Frederick

Cowl drain rusted out or the sunroof drain plugged or rusted out.

Sadly, this is quite common on the S116/W123 chassis.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] W116 water leak

2012-08-05 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes:

 Cowl drain rusted out or the sunroof drain plugged or rusted out.

Is the cowl drain accessible/repairable?

Allan

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1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] frame off?

2012-08-05 Thread RELNGSON
 .Actually, with a few thousand dollars in a total frame off 
 restoration, it
 might be someones dream 
 
My dear G,

Pairing the two phrases a few thousand dollars with total frame off 
restoration in the same sentence is a departure from reality. BTW, the car has 
a unit body, not a separate frame.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good

2012-08-05 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote:
 Easy!  Public schools, NEA and CNN and the other networks ending in BS or BC
 (or BN)

Yabbut...
It took a village for each of us to receive education and for the
networks to broadcast this information to us.
The bottom line? - technology has raised the world to a new standare -
system that has zero failure, hence, nobody is to blame for anything,
anywhere, ever again, i.e. we are living in technology nirvana - vote
the incumbent!!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] frame off?

2012-08-05 Thread G Mann
Reallly !! a unit body imagine that... TIC... [Tongue in cheek]

Seems the humor app on your computer has once again malfunctioned. Might
want to see if there is a suppository implant for that. Internal
overpressure from that malfunction could lead to deadly systematic
anal/oral inversion where the two become interchangeable :
Others usually notice the symptoms first.

All jokes aside, it's painful to see a once fine car in such poor cosmetic
care and obvious lack of attention. Quickly it falls into the BER [Beyond
Economical Repair] category.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 4:57 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  .Actually, with a few thousand dollars in a total frame off
  restoration, it
  might be someones dream 
 
 My dear G,

 Pairing the two phrases a few thousand dollars with total frame off
 restoration in the same sentence is a departure from reality. BTW, the
 car has
 a unit body, not a separate frame.

 RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it

2012-08-05 Thread clay monroe
And the news from the shop is that no great damage was done to the engine or 
car, other than needing to call the Fatherland for a new wiring harness.  No 
word on how long I am going to be storing the car there.

clay

On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:07 PM, clay monroe wrote:

 Yeah, going to get a fresh one.  One I used was ancient.  Also going to 
 install a halon system under the bonnet.  Room enough up front for a small 
 canister.  Pipe nozzles along fenders
 
 
 clay 
 
 
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 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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 On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 
 On Aug 1, 2012 11:32 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 
 Don't be so hard on yourself. Some
 things are just bad luck.
 
 And think how much worse it could have been if Clay hadn't had a fire
 extinguisher handy!
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it

2012-08-05 Thread Craig
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:00:48 -0700 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:

 And the news from the shop is that no great damage was done to the
 engine or car, other than needing to call the Fatherland for a new
 wiring harness.  No word on how long I am going to be storing the car
 there.

Hopefully, they won't charge you a storage charge.


Craig

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